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17:37.23*** topic/#utah is The source for OSS focused discussion in Utah. See sllug.org, uphpu.org, plug.org, uug.byu.edu, uvlug.org, fslc.usu.edu, nupm.org, utwaa.org, oalug.com. See planetutah.adelantellc.com for aggregate feeds
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17:37.32maquisTimRiker: sup?
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18:21.26vontrappI have a problem with my motorcycle
18:21.30vontrappa rather dangerous one
18:21.48hansis it the driver?
18:21.48vontrappthe throttle likes to freeze up on me, somewhere along the cable housing
18:22.05hansis it literally freezing?
18:22.07hans-weather
18:22.08brac1 hours, 11 minutes ago, on Mon Nov 28 17:11:00 UTC 2005, the wind was blowing at a speed of 3.09 meters per second (6.90 miles per hour) from the West/Northwest at KLRU. The temperature was 5 degrees Celsius (41 degrees Fahrenheit), and the pressure was 1018 hPa (30.00 inHg). The relative humidity was 15.6%. The sky was clear.
18:22.19vontrappyep, it FINALLY snowed!!
18:22.26hansI actually had to wear a jacket today
18:22.27vontrapp-weather
18:22.27brac1 hours, 8 minutes ago, on Mon Nov 28 17:15:00 UTC 2005, the wind was blowing at a speed of 3.09 meters per second (6.90 miles per hour) from the East at KPVU. The temperature was -4 degrees Celsius (25 degrees Fahrenheit), and the pressure was 1026 hPa (30.00 inHg). The relative humidity was 68.1%. There were a few clouds at a height of 884 meters (2900 feet), broken clouds at a height of 1128 meter (3700 feet) and
18:22.27bracbroken clouds at a height of 1402 meters (4600 feet).
18:22.55hanshow do you keep a throttle line from freezing?
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18:23.08vontrappyep, that's my question
18:23.17hansif it's coated with oil or wd40 or something will that help? I'm not sure
18:23.30vontrappi imagine something about getting water out of the line and keeping it out
18:23.44RyanEWD-40 stands for water displacement.  that's what it's for.
18:24.05vontrappguess i'll try that then
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18:25.50vontrappit's really fun when you're trying to turn a slow corner into a parking lot on packed snow when the back wheel doesn't want to simmer and your foot slips off the brake
18:26.28vontrappthe wheel started spinning and went straight out from under me
18:26.48vontrappdarn thing
18:27.04mrpull-RyanE:  heh... had no idea of the roots of WD-40's name.
18:27.13mrpull-~wiki wd-40
18:28.01mrpull-"Two rules get you through life: If it's stuck and it's not supposed to be, WD-40 it. If it's not stuck and it's supposed to be, duct tape it."
18:28.26vontrapp40th attempt
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18:36.14Jayce^ooh, tensai what level are you in idlerpg?
18:37.02tensaiJayce^: 48
18:37.09Jayce^really?
18:37.11Jayce^[11/25/05 07:57:00] Jayce^ [389/453] has challenged tensai [386/515] in combat and won! 0 days, 15:54:31 is removed from Jayce^'s clock.
18:37.18Jayce^dunno how that happened then..
18:37.26tensai3 measly hit points
18:37.29Jayce^one of the few I've beaten :)
18:43.50hans~beat Jayce^
18:43.51ibotACTION beats Jayce^ with a large stick.
19:14.56hansjuk doesn't want to install, it's going to take some black magic to get it to work. any juk users vouch for the worth of such an endeavor?
19:17.49tensaihans: I switched to juk from rhythmbox. crashes less (ie. not at all), doesn't quit when you close the window, has an integrated tag editor.
19:18.39hansi'm primarily interested in tag editing, although if it has a good interface my wife might like it better than xmms
19:19.14tensaibetter than xmms? well, duh
19:19.16hans(I don't actually sit at this computer all that often anymore... if I do she kicks me off to read her email)
19:19.58tensaiI've just recently started using the tag editor. it's nothing fancy. no auto guessing, that sort of thing.
19:20.24tensaifor stuff like that I use easytag
19:21.17hansxmms is way lame, but I have yet to find a program that I like better than xmms
19:21.35hansand that includes the highly acclaimed itunes (barf)
19:23.39tensainever used itunes, so I can't say. I really like juk.
19:24.01hanswe tried amarok, but I found the interface clumsy and she found it completely confusing
19:24.41hansI really like taglib, which looks like it was written by the same guy that does juk, so that gives me hope for juk
19:30.34tensaiwhat about amarok was confusing?
19:32.36hansnot sure what it was that confused her most, but I suspect it's the scatteredness of it
19:32.42hanseverything useful is scattered
19:32.48hansor on different tabs
19:34.07tensaihans: I did a lot of tweaking to my mail configuration this weekend, thanks to you
19:34.27tensaiit's a better system now, so that's ok
19:40.23hansheh. no problem
19:40.26hanswhat caused it?
19:41.26tensaiI was bouncing messages that couldn't be delivered to your box. that's the big drawback of secondaries. so I added a recipient verification step. if your server is up, exim will verify that the recipient is valid before accepting.
19:41.44tensaiif your server is down, it'll accept by default
19:42.23tensaiI also took the opportunity to overhaul the rules
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19:43.41sjansenYarro wants to limit pr0n to specific ports?!!
19:43.47sjansen~spell quixote
19:44.10sjansenquixotic, now there's a good word
19:44.32tensaiwhile we're at it, let's limit spam to port 24
19:44.57mrpull-sjansen:  don't you want congress to legislate port usage?  sounds like a fabulous idea </sarcasm>
19:45.31tensaiooh, ooh. let's have the fcc do it.
19:46.22leviQuixotic is indeed a good word.
19:46.53mrpull-these (generally utahn) goofballs that want to make their products required by law make me grumpy.
19:47.47sjansen"It's effective, it's smart, it makes sense and it's a solution," <-- Sure, it makes sense if you now nothing about how the Internet works, or you're completely divorced from reality.
19:49.03tensaisjansen: that statement would apply equally well to SCO
19:49.18tensaiclearly Yarro has learned nothing from that debacle
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19:56.30hans-lart vontrapp
19:56.43findlaykpdf rocks
19:58.43mrpull-idaho is funny
19:58.44mrpull-http://www3.state.id.us/oasis/HCR029.html
19:58.46brac[HOUSE CONCURRENT RESOLUTION NO. 29 - Napoleon Dynamite, production]
19:59.56hansanonymously. :)
20:00.01hanser, unanimously
20:00.08hans~grammar hans
20:00.22mrpull-2        WHEREAS, any members of the House of Representatives or the Senate of  the
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20:00.39mrpull-i'd like to have seen the guy read that
20:09.28tensaiso that's a completely serious resolution? I *love* Idaho!
20:09.56mrpull-snopes confirmed it...
20:10.17Jayce^tensai, I hope you voted Yea, or else you're a freaking idiot!
20:10.41tensaiJayce^: I would have if I were a state senator, obviously
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20:51.27jlp_workvontrap:  white grease might work better to lube that throttle linkage  ...  get it in a spray can (like WD-40) and squirt it up into the cable, then work it a few times, squirt some more in, repeat until satisfied
20:51.59jlp_workwhite grease tends to stick around a little longer than WD-40, which is very light and will evaporate quickly
20:52.26jlp_workI use it on my hood opening linkages all the time (since they hate the cold and all of my inspections are between november and january :-(
20:54.40leviWD-40 isn't really meant to lubricate.  White lithium grease is good stuff indeed.
21:01.05findlayWD-40 dissolves tar
21:02.05sprWD-40 cleans stains
21:02.53jsmithWD-40 smells awful.
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21:05.12ECS~lart Aspen Ridge Management for taking our cable router last Monday, and not saying anything to us.
21:09.42mrpull-~lart stupid dells
21:15.16maquis-lart goozbach
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21:25.17ECS~push maquis
21:25.41maquis~tree ECS
21:25.42ibotACTION sizes up a tree and chops it down in just the right place to fall on ECS.
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21:30.31hanstensai: song count 10, crash count 3
21:30.45tensaihans: ouch
21:30.50maquishans: for what?
21:30.52hansjuk
21:30.58maquisouch
21:30.59hansI've been playing with settings and tags, yes, but
21:31.15hanshowever I do like the interface
21:31.35tensaiso stop doing stuff and just look at the interface. problem solved.
21:31.49hans:)
21:33.27hansand technically it didn't crash but stop responding
21:35.07tensaiI have problems with arts crashing if I leave juk paused overnight. I try not to do that. but juk carries on regardless.
21:36.33hansif I'm not mistaken, all three crashes happened the song transition after switching the output
21:38.59maquishans: with xmms, whenever my background changes, it stops playing, and i have to click pause twice to get it playing again
21:39.11maquisi've tried increasing the buffer and everything
21:39.25maquisfrom what i can tell watching gkrellm, it happens whenever cpu spikes
21:40.58tensaisony just sent me an email telling me that their uninstaller introduced a security hole in my computer. that was nice of them.
21:41.20maquistensai: they sent that today?
21:41.24maquiswow....
21:41.25maquisummm...
21:41.30maquisthey're certainly on the ball
21:41.34tensaijust a few minutes ago
21:41.43tensaigood thing I was using wine :)
21:41.53maquisummm..  yeah
21:41.54jsmithRight...
21:46.23maquisi'm just impressed that they A) hadn't done anything yet, and B) decided to do something now
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22:06.46CGI9436219account add msn cooltom16@hotmail.com internet2
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22:36.54brac[2005/11/28 12:58:51] <mrpull-> http://www3.state.id.us/oasis/HCR029.html
22:36.54brac[2005/11/28 11:27:30] <ibot> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WD-40
22:36.54brac[2005/11/28 09:20:35] <tensai> http://www.mysettopbox.tv/knoppmyth.html
22:36.54brac[2005/11/27 22:51:33] <tensai> http://www.zmonkey.org/blog/
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22:53.16harleypighttp://www.tomsnetworking.com/Sections-article106-page1.php
22:53.19brac[How To: Building a BlueSniper Rifle – Part 1 : TomsNetworking :]
22:53.27harleypigAttack a bluetooth device from up to a m ile away!!!
23:16.29jsmithharleypig: Old news...
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23:37.07xbmodder_lappyOnly 4 years to go.
23:47.22maquisxbmodder_lappy: before?
23:48.14ScytheBlade1Date:  03/08/05
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23:52.32xbmodderScytheBlade1, good job!
23:52.39ScytheBlade1I know.
23:52.43xbmoddermaquis, more like 3 years 1 months 2 days
23:52.45ScytheBlade1My copy and paste skills are second to none.
23:52.48xbmoddermaquis, more like 3 years 1 months 5 days
23:53.04maquisxbmodder: til?
23:53.09xbmodder+/- 3 days
23:53.15xbmodderUntil I am 18
23:53.45maquisthat'll be a scary moment
23:54.18xbmodderfor you
23:54.19xbmodderor me?
23:54.23maquisfor everyone
23:54.27xbmodderhehe
23:55.02emcnabb3 cheers for 10 Mbit 1/2 duplex networks
23:55.17maquisIn 2003, a US District Court sided with MercExchange in a suit against eBay over patent infringement that the ordinary person might think crazy. Luckily, there are lawyers to make sense of US patent 5,845,265 in examples like this.
23:55.21maquis<PROTECTED>
23:58.32xbmodderouchy
23:59.46xbmodderstart-ups are hard...

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