| 00:54.32 | goozbach | ~curse Jayce^ |
| 00:54.33 | ibot | May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your most sensitive regions, Jayce^ ! |
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| 01:05.06 | maquis | ~curse goozbach |
| 01:05.08 | ibot | May you be reincarnated as a Windows XP administrator, goozbach ! |
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| 03:36.32 | hans | if (foo() || bar()) something(); /* in C, if foo() returns truth, bar() never gets called, right? */ |
| 03:40.57 | maquis | dff |
| 03:51.22 | dlanser | that would mean that the compiler is making decisions about your code - |
| 03:55.36 | Newsome | boolean evaluation short-circuiting...it's pretty common |
| 04:00.54 | maquis | yup |
| 04:00.57 | dlanser | i can see that as a problem if foo() is a function and bar() is a function based on foo() - and seeing if it changes in the nanosecond between both are tested - if foo() function changes |
| 04:01.26 | dlanser | a race condition testing |
| 04:01.27 | Newsome | I's actually be interested to learn of compilers which _don't_ do short-circuit evaluation, or languages that specify not to implement evaluation that way |
| 04:01.40 | Newsome | err... I'd |
| 04:01.51 | dlanser | i asked in fpc about it being done in pascal |
| 04:05.30 | Newsome | from the Free Pascal Language Reference Guide (http://mirror.mirimar.net/freepascal/docs-pdf/ref.pdf) - "Boolean expressions are always evaluated with short-circuit evaluation." |
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| 04:07.22 | dlanser | do you see any downside to it? - i guess not with OR ? |
| 04:12.06 | Newsome | just that if someone isn't aware of it, and mixes procedures with boolean operations, they could run into problems |
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| 05:51.09 | mheath | You know what would me a neat little hack? |
| 05:51.23 | mheath | A patch for XChat that allows you to attach/detach to an IRC client on a remote server |
| 05:51.53 | mheath | IE, you run a client on a server, and then rather than SSHing in and using screen, you just remotely attach to it using a GUI client.. |
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| 06:06.42 | Lone_Wanderer | Does anyone here know if Hofstadter invented recursive acronyms? |
| 06:07.05 | Lone_Wanderer | Also, is it true that for any programming language X, there is a program which cannot be written in X? |
| 06:09.01 | mheath | Lone_Wanderer: No idea on the recursive acronyms....I can tell you who invented doubly recursive acronyms, but not recursive acronyms |
| 06:09.33 | mheath | Lone_Wanderer: In lower level programming languages, and particular assembly, I'd say there is really no limitation on what can be written. |
| 06:09.49 | mheath | You might run into some realistic phyiscal limitations, like the amount of memory.... |
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| 06:09.59 | mheath | Computers compute things mathematically |
| 06:10.19 | mheath | And so, with lower level languages at least, there shouldn't be anything stopping you from expressing anything that can be expressed mathematically |
| 06:10.26 | mheath | Which is everything |
| 06:13.17 | Lone_Wanderer | apparently there is something that can't be written |
| 06:13.43 | Lone_Wanderer | a program that can telll if another program terminates |
| 06:15.13 | tensai_ | mheath: your comment about xchat finally sparked a solution: ctrlproxy. it's an irc proxy ala screen. |
| 06:15.24 | tensai_ | if you can hear me, that means it's working |
| 06:16.27 | mheath | Indeed I can. |
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| 06:16.52 | Maquis_ | is anyone here??? |
| 06:16.59 | tensai_ | slightly more complicated than a simple checkbox, but seems to work well |
| 06:17.06 | tensai_ | Maquis_: no, sorry. try again later. |
| 06:17.09 | Maquis_ | tensai_: help! |
| 06:17.18 | Maquis_ | [osiris /root] ps aux | grep ssh |
| 06:17.18 | Maquis_ | zsh: segmentation fault ps aux | |
| 06:17.18 | Maquis_ | zsh: exit 1 grep ssh |
| 06:17.18 | Maquis_ | [osiris /root] killall ssh |
| 06:17.18 | Maquis_ | zsh: segmentation fault killall ssh |
| 06:17.44 | tensai_ | that's really bad |
| 06:17.50 | Maquis_ | tensai_: that's what i thought |
| 06:17.54 | tensai_ | have you rebooted? |
| 06:18.03 | Maquis_ | tensai_: any ideas on *what* could be causing that? |
| 06:18.24 | tensai_ | bad memory, root kit, kernel bug |
| 06:18.34 | tensai_ | by no means an exhaustive list |
| 06:19.14 | Maquis_ | tensai_: how would any of that happen? |
| 06:20.01 | tensai_ | memory can spontaneously die, script kiddies can get into your box, the last is highly unlikely |
| 06:20.04 | Maquis_ | all i know is that at some point, my computer switched wireless networks without telling me, but that's happened plenty of times in the past, without giving any of these types of problems |
| 06:20.14 | tensai_ | seems like that happened to me once, but I don't recall the details |
| 06:20.38 | mheath | maquis: reinstall zsh, that's my suggestion. |
| 06:21.16 | mheath | If you reboot and the problem doesn't go away, reboot with init=/bin/bash (or login to another user that doesn't have the default shell as zsh, and su user /bin/bash) |
| 06:21.29 | mheath | And use the bash shell to reinstall zsh |
| 06:21.37 | Maquis_ | ummm... |
| 06:22.13 | Maquis_ | should i try a reboot real quick and see if everything comes back? (i didn't do it yet so that i could get some ideas in case there's anything i can do to troubleshoot...? |
| 06:22.31 | tensai_ | I would try a reboot. a memory checker wouldn't hurt. |
| 06:23.00 | Maquis_ | mmmk |
| 06:23.03 | Maquis_ | bbiab |
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| 06:27.28 | maquis | hmmm... ssh is working again, which is probably a good thing |
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| 06:27.47 | maquis | here's the other funny thing i noticed... |
| 06:28.36 | maquis | i found this in some logs: |
| 06:28.43 | maquis | sleep: cannot read realtime clock: Unknown error 516 |
| 06:30.25 | tensai | maquis: I would run chkrootkit. or if that's your FC box run whatever that rpm command is that verifies all the installed files |
| 06:30.54 | maquis | tensai: it is my fedora box... i'll go take a look at the manpage... |
| 06:31.34 | tensai | rpm -Va, maybe? |
| 06:32.40 | maquis | i'll try that |
| 06:32.43 | maquis | and ckrootkit |
| 06:33.44 | maquis | tensai: what does all this output mean? (the output from rpm -Va)? |
| 06:33.57 | tensai | what, like I use rpm |
| 06:34.07 | tensai | I just saw it written once |
| 06:34.34 | tensai | I think it lists the files and what things match or don't match, like timestamp, md5, size, etc. |
| 06:38.55 | mheath | Hmmm |
| 06:39.05 | mheath | What's the policy for editing a wikipedia article? |
| 06:39.08 | mheath | I've never done it before |
| 06:39.17 | mheath | But I just found something thats wrong... |
| 06:40.09 | mheath | In the 1794 article: |
| 06:40.30 | mheath | March 27 - The United States Government established a permanent United States Navy and authorized the building of six vessels (in 1797 the first three frigates, USS United States, USS Constellation and USS Constitution went into service). |
| 06:40.45 | mheath | But in the 1775 article: |
| 06:41.06 | mheath | October 13 - American Revolutionary War: The United States Continental Congress orders the establishment of the Continental Navy (later renamed the United States Navy). |
| 06:41.29 | mheath | October 13th, 1775, is the official birthday of the United States Navy, not March 27th, 1794. |
| 06:50.05 | mheath | Legislation for the existance of a navy has been constantly present since October 13th, 1775 |
| 06:51.51 | findlay | mheath: you just go ahead and edit it, and leave a comment in the page log of what you changed and why you changed it. Do everything you possibly can to provide a reference, though. |
| 06:53.31 | mheath | I get what they're saying........On March 27th, the United States congress authorized the building and manning of the first ships in the *United States* (as opposed to continental congress or earlier) Navy |
| 06:53.55 | mheath | I just think it implies that that was the day the US Navy was created, when that simply isn't the case.....Just needs the wording altered.. |
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| 06:55.26 | maquis | tensai: looks like evertyhing's coming out clean |
| 06:55.46 | findlay | ~clean maquis' rootkits |
| 07:10.39 | findlay | taking a gamble with google? |
| 07:11.21 | maquis | findlay: most computers don't randomly just start doing something like that.... so, i think i should try to figure out what caused it |
| 07:12.30 | findlay | of course, if your root filesystem is a CDR, then it's read-only. really read-only. |
| 07:23.09 | findlay | maquis: I think you should write your root partition in EEPROM, then you wouldn't ever have to worry again |
| 07:34.05 | Newsome | ~lart moronic CS professors who give assignments that include every student compromising security with an "upload.cgi" file that will upload _any_ file, and put it into a web-accessible directory |
| 07:44.51 | maquis | Newsome: which class? i wanna take it! |
| 07:48.23 | maquis | http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20051125-5628.html |
| 07:48.34 | maquis | "the aim of free software is not to enable a healthy business on software but rather to make it even impossible to make any income on software as a commercial product." |
| 07:49.56 | maquis | Earlier this month, Microsoft representative Charles Fitzgerald rejected IBM's on-demand business model as "crazy" and dismissed open source enthusiasts as "dorks." |
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| 15:26.39 | hans | mheath: you would be wrong |
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| 17:40.08 | mheath | hans: wrong about what? O.o |
| 17:40.38 | hans | mheath: Lone_Wanderer: In lower level programming languages, and particular assembly, I'd say there is really no limitation on what can be written. |
| 17:41.52 | mheath | hans: why is that wrong? While there might be some realistic physical limitations (RAM, etc), those languages can express anything you can express mathematically (IE, everything) |
| 17:43.27 | hans | In college you'll have a whole class on it. But in short, there are some things that can't be computed. Furthermore, almost every language out there is turing-complete, which means it has the power to compute everything that can be computed (it may not be fun, or easy, or efficient, but it can do it). |
| 17:44.12 | hans | This might be a good starting point: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church–Turing_thesis |
| 17:45.02 | mheath | hans: Oh, your just saying I'm wrong about just lower level languages / assembly? |
| 17:45.39 | hans | no, I'm saying that what you can express mathematically is not everything |
| 17:46.35 | mheath | What can't you express mathematically? |
| 17:46.39 | mheath | Give me an example. |
| 17:46.45 | hans | the most famous one is the halting problem. |
| 17:47.09 | mheath | Eh? I'm not familiar with that |
| 17:47.19 | hans | the question: "will this program finish", _in general_ is not computable |
| 17:47.33 | hans | you will be. you will be. </yoda> |
| 17:47.42 | hans | here, this is a better link. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computability_theory_%28computation%29 |
| 17:48.32 | emcnabb__ | ah, the good ol' halting problem |
| 17:49.31 | mheath | Given a description of a Turing machine and its initial input, determine whether the program, when executed on this input, ever halts (completes). The alternative is that it runs forever without halting. |
| 17:49.38 | hans | actually, the halting problem is simply undecidable. it's recognizable, though. things that are not even recognizable are mostly really hard to think about |
| 17:49.41 | mheath | I don't see how you can't compute that |
| 17:49.54 | mheath | Or is it counting any additional input from the user? |
| 17:49.59 | hans | no input |
| 17:50.05 | hans | well, initial input |
| 17:50.12 | mheath | Then I don't get it |
| 17:50.15 | mheath | you know what your input is |
| 17:50.25 | mheath | you know what your algorithm is |
| 17:50.42 | hans | like I say, whole university classes. There's math and proofs and head-spinning involved |
| 17:52.01 | hans | and then you get to complexity theory, which is even more fun |
| 17:52.03 | mheath | That is, the only way to know for sure if a given program will halt on a particular input in all cases is simply to run it and see if it halts. If it does halt, then you know it halts. If it doesn't halt, however, you may never know if it will eventually halt. |
| 17:52.12 | mheath | We're talking about simple boolean electronics! |
| 17:52.17 | mheath | Electronics do what they're told |
| 17:52.28 | hans | electronics are one way of computing, yup. |
| 17:52.34 | mheath | and since you, the programmer, are the one who told it what to do, I don't see why you don't know what it will do |
| 17:53.34 | hans | you know what it will do. it would be the same if you tried to do it in your head |
| 17:53.38 | hans | or on paper |
| 17:54.28 | hans | it's precisely because you know what it will do that you can prove that it can't compute some thing.s |
| 17:55.05 | mheath | I'll ask my dad to explain this to me |
| 17:55.19 | mheath | He's probably familiar with this, as he worked with computers for decades, and has a masters in electronic engineering... |
| 17:55.21 | hans | He probably has a book on computability theory you could browse, too |
| 17:57.39 | findlay | so you think mathematics can compute anything, do ya, do ya! |
| 17:58.18 | hans | I have the Sipser book (ISBN 0-534-94728-X), I think it's a pretty good treatment |
| 17:58.32 | hans | findlay: have you read goedel, escher, bach? |
| 17:58.39 | findlay | hans: no |
| 17:58.45 | hans | i keep meaning to. maybe over christmas |
| 17:59.19 | hans | http://ocw.mit.edu/OcwWeb/Electrical-Engineering-and-Computer-Science/6-045JSpring-2005/CourseHome/index.htm |
| 17:59.20 | brac | [MIT OpenCourseWare | |
| 17:59.20 | brac | Electrical Engineering and Computer Science | 6.045J Automata, Computability, and Complexity, Spring 2005 | Home] |
| 17:59.22 | findlay | we can read it together on IRC. I type in one paragraph, and you type in the next, and so on. |
| 17:59.31 | hans | sjansen will shoot us |
| 18:00.37 | hans | I tried to set my nick to "p=np?" |
| 18:00.47 | q__ | oh |
| 18:01.04 | q__ | Goodel sentence of some sort |
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| 18:05.55 | hans | p=np? is the most important question in mathematics today. according to MIT anyway. (see the link above) |
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| 19:45.33 | emcnabb | http://www.kernelthread.com/hanoi/ |
| 19:45.35 | brac | [Hanoimania!] |
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| 19:49.21 | graphyx | wow... that's something else. |
| 19:49.23 | graphyx | ~something |
| 19:49.25 | ibot | methinks something is important, other things are not! |
| 19:49.27 | maquis | http://www.xirium.com/tech/mud-shell/index.html |
| 19:49.28 | brac | [=\/=Xirium > MUD-Shell] |
| 19:50.28 | mrpull | anybody still playing MUD's? i thought it might be fun to jump into one. |
| 19:50.31 | graphyx | Just one problem. I don't want to have to avoid waking up the grue in order to delete a directory. |
| 19:50.44 | maquis | graphyx: :) |
| 19:50.57 | maquis | but you get experience points for killing files! |
| 19:51.23 | graphyx | So will the have a ladder for the master level 58 File swatter of BSD? |
| 19:52.22 | maquis | ??? |
| 19:53.02 | graphyx | will they had an experience ladder for who is the highest level on the MUD shell? |
| 19:53.10 | maquis | i don't know |
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| 20:16.09 | brailsmt | if my root partition is on an lvm volume, do I need an initrd to boot? |
| 20:18.48 | hans | -lart brailsmt |
| 20:18.58 | hans | long time no see |
| 20:19.23 | graphyx | brac, that was a remarkable appropriate lart. |
| 20:19.30 | graphyx | remarkably |
| 20:19.34 | hans | I think mostly you do need an initrd to boot, but maybe having the right stuff compiled in would work too |
| 20:20.19 | hans | I just keep things simple and use ext[23] for my /, and keep my root as small as possible |
| 20:20.46 | hans | then I go the other extreme for the rest and clump them all together on one big partition, usually |
| 20:20.51 | brailsmt | hans: i have been without internet connection for the last 6 months... |
| 20:20.53 | hans | but that's the beauty of lvm |
| 20:20.58 | hans | yikes |
| 20:21.17 | brailsmt | too expensive, but I just a new job and now we can afford it... |
| 20:21.22 | brailsmt | 37% pay increase :D |
| 20:21.26 | hans | nice |
| 20:21.38 | brailsmt | anyway... |
| 20:21.50 | hans | anyone here play wesnoth |
| 20:22.09 | brailsmt | i am installing gentoo over an "old" suse 10 install i had for a few weeks, and I had lvm set up for it, and kept that disk setup... |
| 20:22.14 | brailsmt | hans: i have |
| 20:22.19 | hans | like it? |
| 20:22.26 | brailsmt | yeah |
| 20:22.37 | hans | I know you hated the freecraft AI - is wesnoth's any better? |
| 20:22.38 | brailsmt | it is nice, it can get tedious though... |
| 20:22.53 | graphyx | wesnoth does get tedious. |
| 20:22.55 | hans | dragging and mass moving would be nice |
| 20:22.59 | graphyx | It's just more of the same again and again. |
| 20:23.03 | brailsmt | its ai is good enough that I have never tried playing it fair... |
| 20:23.17 | graphyx | The worse part is not being able to pick which guys are kept from one scenario to the next. |
| 20:23.18 | brailsmt | but then i haven't devoted much time to it either... |
| 20:23.42 | hans | graphyx: insofar as you can keep anyone, you can pick who can't you? |
| 20:23.48 | brailsmt | does mkinitrd support 2.6.14+ kernels? |
| 20:23.56 | hans | that's a good question |
| 20:24.15 | hans | there's a new initrd-like-thing on the block, and I'm not sure how things play together |
| 20:24.24 | brailsmt | livecd linux # mkinitrd /boot/initrd-2.6.14-gentoo-r2 2.6.14-gentoo-r2 |
| 20:24.24 | brailsmt | No dep file found for kernel 2.6.14-gentoo-r2 |
| 20:24.38 | hans | but I've never been very good with initrd at all |
| 20:24.58 | brailsmt | me neither... |
| 20:25.02 | hans | I think I made one successfully in my whole life, and that was following step-by-step instructions |
| 20:25.09 | hans | I just compile in what's needed |
| 20:25.45 | brailsmt | i have everything compiled in, but I need the device mapper which, is both a module and a deamon, iirc |
| 20:26.46 | brailsmt | gentoo no longer supports a stage 1 installation... :( |
| 20:27.20 | maquis | brailsmt: what? |
| 20:27.53 | brailsmt | yup... |
| 20:28.01 | graphyx | hans: Well it seems to keep the top people for you to pick from in the next area. You can choose who to hire. But there were times when some of my best guys just didn't seem to move to the next scenario. |
| 20:28.14 | brailsmt | i was flying through the install and it says it right in the handbook |
| 20:28.30 | graphyx | How can they not support a stage1? |
| 20:28.38 | graphyx | I thought that was what gentoo was about... |
| 20:28.48 | brailsmt | they provide the stage1 tarball, but not docs... |
| 20:28.55 | graphyx | perhaps you have to be 1337 enough to pull it off. |
| 20:29.21 | brailsmt | i am 1337 enough, but i am also sure i would miss a few critical steps... |
| 20:29.56 | brailsmt | and then i would hobble along with a crippled system until i spent the time troubleshooting to fix the issue... |
| 20:30.10 | graphyx | Can't you just go to an earlier set of the setup gentoo docs to get directions for the stage 1 install. |
| 20:30.21 | hans | can't you just install and then rebuild everything? |
| 20:30.28 | brailsmt | i would rather go with the stage3 and then just do a emerge -D system; emerge -D world |
| 20:30.28 | hans | don't they have a make world or something? |
| 20:30.50 | graphyx | Sounds good enough to me.. |
| 20:31.05 | graphyx | I run gentoo, but I don't define myself as 1337. |
| 20:31.08 | graphyx | Just competent. |
| 20:31.08 | brailsmt | hans: debian folks aren't invited to discuss gentoo specific issues... |
| 20:31.14 | brailsmt | :p |
| 20:31.42 | hans | I did train my replacement by throwing him at a gentoo stage 1 install |
| 20:31.47 | brailsmt | i am 1337 enough for people to hire me to install linux in their data centers... |
| 20:31.53 | hans | for part of his linux training |
| 20:32.14 | brailsmt | (whatever that means) |
| 20:32.15 | graphyx | hans: I had my guys run through a stage3 gentoo install. |
| 20:32.23 | graphyx | One of them had to try like 6 times till he got it right. |
| 20:32.36 | brailsmt | i think i tried like 20 times to get it right... |
| 20:32.44 | graphyx | But now both of them are running gentoo systems full time. |
| 20:32.59 | graphyx | I got gentoo CLI up on my first time without help. |
| 20:33.04 | graphyx | but I couldn't get KDE up and running. |
| 20:33.05 | brailsmt | of course I had only used linux a few months, and it was several years ago, and the docs weren't good then... |
| 20:33.25 | graphyx | That first attempt was about 3 years ago for me. |
| 20:33.30 | brailsmt | the docs are very thorough now |
| 20:33.39 | graphyx | Since then I don't have any issues getting it installed. |
| 20:33.41 | brailsmt | hans: are you back in school? |
| 20:33.47 | hans | yup, at nmsu |
| 20:33.48 | graphyx | except for an initrd for getting a usb drive to boot up. |
| 20:33.59 | graphyx | brailsmt: Did you go to the Y? |
| 20:34.04 | brailsmt | graphyx: yup |
| 20:34.19 | brailsmt | now I am in Kansas City, MO |
| 20:34.26 | graphyx | hans: Would I be likely to know brailsmt? |
| 20:34.31 | hans | enjoying the film of humidity on his skin |
| 20:34.52 | brailsmt | enjoying the lack of a constant need for lotion and chapstic |
| 20:35.08 | brailsmt | though, it is pretty dry in winter... |
| 20:41.47 | hans | -weather klru |
| 20:41.48 | brac | 31 minutes ago, on Sat Nov 26 20:11:00 UTC 2005, the wind was blowing at a speed of 10.80 meters per second (24.17 miles per hour), with gusts to 15.43 meters per second (34.52 miles per hour), from the West/Southwest at KLRU. The temperature was 21 degrees Celsius (70 degrees Fahrenheit), and the pressure was 1010 hPa (29.00 inHg). The relative humidity was 14.6%. The sky was clear. |
| 20:42.46 | graphyx | -weather |
| 20:42.47 | brac | 28 minutes ago, on Sat Nov 26 20:15:00 UTC 2005, the wind was blowing at a speed of 5.66 meters per second (12.66 miles per hour), with gusts to 8.75 meters per second (19.56 miles per hour), from the Northwest at KPVU. The temperature was 4 degrees Celsius (39 degrees Fahrenheit), and the pressure was 1009 hPa (29.00 inHg). The relative humidity was 55.9%. There were a few clouds at a height of 1158 meters (3800 feet), |
| 20:42.47 | brac | scattered clouds at a height of 1524 meter (5000 feet) and broken clouds at a height of 2134 meters (7000 feet). |
| 20:43.03 | graphyx | we got an inch of snow this morning. |
| 20:44.19 | brailsmt | it is 60 degrees here |
| 20:44.20 | brailsmt | :) |
| 20:53.02 | brailsmt | rebooting for the first time... wish me luck... |
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| 21:09.59 | mheath | Whats the site that lists the weather codes? |
| 21:10.03 | mheath | ~weather foobar |
| 21:10.11 | mheath | Ah :) |
| 21:11.26 | mheath | ~weather KFLG |
| 21:14.59 | maquis | -lart fogetting information that i used to know |
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| 21:21.07 | graphyx | maquis: I think I have forgotten more stuff than I currently know. |
| 21:21.36 | graphyx | The key is just to know how to recall it or find it again in less time than it took you to learn it the first time. |
| 21:22.24 | hans | what's the key to writing ugly C programs that you don't want to writE? |
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| 21:27.03 | misterpull | humbug |
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| 21:49.20 | maquis | graphyx: i know... |
| 21:49.27 | maquis | hans: how ugly? |
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| 22:05.31 | hans | ugly enough. |
| 22:05.45 | hans | network stuff and signal handler stuff |
| 22:06.09 | hans | the kind where you spend more time reading man pages than codig |
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| 23:04.38 | xbmodder_lappy | have any of you experienced problems with ipw2100 firmware? |
| 23:07.53 | xbmodder_lappy | hmm :( |
| 23:15.57 | xbmodder | hans, umm cross your fingers? |
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| 23:40.48 | xbmodder | Ah shizit. stupid headache |
| 23:41.26 | hans | ~language xbmodder |
| 23:41.27 | ibot | ACTION grabs xbmodder by the ear and washes xbmodder's mouth out with soap |
| 23:48.03 | xbmodder | sorry,,,, |
| 23:48.06 | xbmodder | :( |
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