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| 00:14.28 | vontrapp | how do you clear a variable in bash? |
| 00:14.41 | hans | -lart vontrapp |
| 00:14.47 | hans | FOO= |
| 00:15.37 | vontrapp | does that make it so [ -n "$FOO" ] evaluates to false? |
| 00:15.49 | vontrapp | i guess it would |
| 00:15.59 | vontrapp | what about [ -z $FOO ] |
| 00:16.14 | hans | i think there's unset FOO too |
| 00:16.53 | vontrapp | wait, -z is true if FOO is not set |
| 00:19.19 | hans | -rps rock |
| 00:19.19 | brac | scissors. You win. |
| 00:19.26 | hans | -lart himself |
| 00:25.29 | jsmith | -rps paper |
| 00:25.30 | brac | rock. You win. |
| 00:25.35 | jsmith | -rps rock |
| 00:25.36 | brac | scissors. You win. |
| 00:25.43 | jsmith | -rps rock |
| 00:25.43 | brac | rock. We tie. |
| 00:25.52 | jsmith | -rps paper |
| 00:25.52 | brac | rock. You win. |
| 00:26.03 | jsmith | -rps rock |
| 00:26.04 | brac | rock. We tie. |
| 00:26.08 | jsmith | -rps scissors |
| 00:26.09 | brac | paper. You win. |
| 00:26.17 | jsmith | Dang... I'm on a roll! |
| 00:27.22 | vontrapp | -rps score jsmith |
| 00:27.23 | brac | incorrect usage: roshambo <rock|paper|scissors> => play roshambo |
| 00:27.29 | vontrapp | -rps score |
| 00:27.29 | brac | me: 0, vontrapp: 0, ties: 0 |
| 00:27.39 | vontrapp | -rps rock |
| 00:27.40 | brac | paper! I win! |
| 00:27.44 | vontrapp | :-P |
| 00:28.06 | jsmith | -rps score |
| 00:28.06 | brac | me: 0, jsmith: 4, ties: 2 |
| 00:29.12 | jsmith | -rps rock |
| 00:29.12 | brac | paper! I win! |
| 00:29.16 | jsmith | -rps rock |
| 00:29.16 | brac | paper! I win! |
| 00:29.25 | jsmith | -rps paper |
| 00:29.26 | brac | paper. We tie. |
| 00:29.30 | jsmith | -rps rock |
| 00:29.30 | brac | paper! I win! |
| 00:29.31 | brac | ~lart jsmith |
| 00:29.50 | jsmith | So much for my lucky streak... |
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| 00:33.45 | graphyx_home | How do I do reverse ssh x forwarding. |
| 00:34.05 | graphyx_home | I can ssh from my work machine to my home machine and I want to run stuff on the work machine and have it be displayed on the home machine. |
| 00:36.10 | Bradipo | I suppose you could use -R to open up a remote port that tunnels back to your work and then when you get home, use ssh -p to use that port. |
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| 01:00.16 | maquis | -lart packing |
| 01:00.56 | vontrapp | but packing is a good thing, it means your going to have some good home cookin thanksgiving feast |
| 01:01.21 | maquis | vontrapp: sure... but i still find packing and unpacking to be the most annoying parts of college life |
| 01:06.02 | hans | ~hug tmpwatch |
| 01:06.04 | ibot | ACTION hugs tmpwatch |
| 01:11.04 | Newsome | !lart BYU-endorsed spam |
| 01:11.09 | Newsome | ~lart BYU-endorsed spam |
| 01:11.56 | maquis | Newsome: does spam sent to a class (using blackboard) by someone trying to sell a contract count? |
| 01:12.25 | Newsome | it should, for larting purposes |
| 01:12.40 | maquis | Newsome: cool |
| 01:13.38 | maquis | oh... a couple lines, actually |
| 01:13.43 | vontrapp | it's about to blow up |
| 01:13.49 | maquis | -lart vontrapp |
| 01:13.50 | vontrapp | the red is to warn you |
| 01:15.33 | Newsome | before - http://tuxrocks.com/tmp/dislocated-1.png and after - http://tuxrocks.com/tmp/reduced-1.png |
| 01:16.40 | maquis | Newsome: looks a lot better |
| 01:16.59 | ScytheBlade1 | Newsome, not bad |
| 01:17.07 | ScytheBlade1 | You must have enjoyed that :) |
| 01:17.16 | Newsome | yeah, feels a lot better, too! |
| 01:17.34 | ScytheBlade1 | I can imagine |
| 01:17.48 | Newsome | fortunately, I was out while they wrenched it back into place |
| 01:17.54 | ScytheBlade1 | My 3rd vertebre down happens to be about 1.25 inches off to the right or so |
| 01:18.00 | ScytheBlade1 | 4th is 1 inch to the right |
| 01:18.06 | Newsome | ouch |
| 01:18.10 | ScytheBlade1 | err, latter is to the left |
| 01:18.25 | maquis | Newsome: they put you under? |
| 01:18.30 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah. And people blame my usage of computers on my migraines :) |
| 01:19.00 | maquis | ScytheBlade1: methinks you meant that to go the other way around? |
| 01:19.08 | ScytheBlade1 | *used to, sorry |
| 01:19.31 | maquis | ScytheBlade1: you mean that they blamed your migraines on computers, right? |
| 01:19.34 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah |
| 01:19.43 | maquis | ok... that makes a lot more sense |
| 01:19.59 | ScytheBlade1 | "Your posture is horrible! Computer chair! Migraines!" "...since age two?" "Yup." |
| 01:20.09 | Newsome | yeah, something nice & quick right into the IV that made me sleep just long enough |
| 01:20.31 | maquis | Newsome: that's probably a good thing... i can't imagine that it would feel that great |
| 01:20.38 | ScytheBlade1 | I get 6 months of therapy to fix my neck :/ |
| 01:20.48 | maquis | although, it probably couldn't be too much worse than wrenching it out of place |
| 01:21.03 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, how'd you do that? |
| 01:21.10 | maquis | ScytheBlade1: did it grow that way? or what? |
| 01:21.35 | ScytheBlade1 | maquis, yeah, since birth, or as long as I remember. My parents thought I was addicted to children's tylenol ;) |
| 01:22.11 | maquis | ScytheBlade1: that sucks |
| 01:22.24 | ScytheBlade1 | At least it'll be fixed within 6 months |
| 01:22.41 | ScytheBlade1 | Newsome, how'd you dislocate your foot like that? |
| 01:23.03 | maquis | (it's his elbow) |
| 01:23.12 | maquis | unless there's something else i didn't know about |
| 01:23.25 | ScytheBlade1 | ....elbow? |
| 01:23.26 | ScytheBlade1 | wow |
| 01:23.39 | ScytheBlade1 | oh ha, so it is |
| 01:23.52 | Newsome | :) |
| 01:24.05 | maquis | Newsome: how far off was it? half an inch? more? |
| 01:24.38 | Newsome | I think more |
| 01:24.42 | maquis | and... how did everyone react? |
| 01:26.09 | Newsome | stupid doctor at the health center wanted to see if I could straighten out my arm |
| 01:26.23 | ScytheBlade1 | ...and that happened? 0_o |
| 01:27.36 | maquis | ouch |
| 01:27.55 | maquis | that doesn't sound very likely given the picture |
| 01:28.28 | Newsome | I fell, and dislocated the elbow. The doc wanted to see if it was something easy he could fix |
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| 01:29.25 | Newsome | Utah Valley emergency room was much more helpful |
| 01:29.31 | maquis | i can imagine |
| 01:29.40 | maquis | so, did someone from the office drive you down there? |
| 01:30.08 | Newsome | Klark did |
| 01:30.16 | maquis | cool |
| 01:30.29 | maquis | not fun... |
| 01:32.16 | hans | Newsome: how'd you do it? |
| 01:33.56 | Newsome | hans: I fell (tripped/stumbled/lost balance/etc) while moving stuff around in the server room |
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| 01:34.13 | ScytheBlade1 | Heck of a fall |
| 01:34.22 | maquis | Newsome: were you on top of something? how'd you fall so hard? |
| 01:34.45 | Newsome | bad gravity day, I guess |
| 01:34.46 | graphyx_home | Bradido: how would i use the -R command? |
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| 01:34.59 | xbmodder-treo | hey |
| 01:35.08 | hans | wow, bnl's next 'album' is a usb drive |
| 01:35.10 | vontrapp | chmod -R a+w / |
| 01:35.20 | maquis | hans: bnl? |
| 01:35.27 | xbmodder-treo | what is there to do (for someone under 18) in NYC |
| 01:35.33 | vontrapp | cool, so you could copy it, then use the drive |
| 01:35.34 | hans | http://rss.slashdot.org/Slashdot/slashdot?m=2023 |
| 01:35.58 | xbmodder-treo | bnl S |
| 01:36.06 | xbmodder-treo | bnl- the band right? |
| 01:36.23 | vontrapp | xbmodder-treo: ride a bicycle through traffic, between taxis and hanging onto bumpers |
| 01:36.46 | xbmodder-treo | sounds fun. now I need a bicycle |
| 01:37.28 | xbmodder-treo | is there an NYlug? |
| 01:37.43 | xbmodder-treo | I guess so. |
| 01:38.30 | graphyx_home | any ideas on the proper syntax for remote port forwarding to allow a ssh connection back to the system which you are connecting from? |
| 01:38.40 | xbmodder-treo | hmm |
| 01:38.57 | Newsome | should be in the manpage |
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| 01:39.48 | hans | ssh -R2022:localhost:22 foo |
| 01:39.54 | hans | then ssh -p 2022 foo |
| 01:39.54 | Newsome | -R remote_port:host:hostport |
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| 01:40.20 | xbmodder-treo | did I get kicked |
| 01:40.23 | xbmodder-treo | ? |
| 01:40.48 | hans | yup, kicked by electromagnetism |
| 01:42.41 | ScytheBlade1 | heh, the LKML is a fun place |
| 01:42.52 | ScytheBlade1 | Someone posted asking about ZFS |
| 01:43.04 | ScytheBlade1 | The conversation turned to resier4, then 3, then ext2/3, then amiga, then: |
| 01:43.10 | ScytheBlade1 | "Basically, as far as I can tell, any device capable of storing 2^256 bits would collapse into a black hole under its own weight." |
| 01:43.19 | hans | :) |
| 01:46.20 | ScytheBlade1 | Whoa, then someone posted a link to this |
| 01:46.20 | ScytheBlade1 | http://atomchip.com/db4/00366/atomchip.com/_uimages/1TBram.jpg |
| 01:47.23 | hans | so is that fake or real? |
| 01:47.36 | ScytheBlade1 | http://atomchip.com/_wsn/page3.html |
| 01:47.38 | brac | [INDUSTRIAL PRODUCTS] |
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| 01:49.18 | ScytheBlade1 | yeah, it's a fake |
| 01:49.24 | ScytheBlade1 | Depressingly enough |
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| 01:49.43 | xbmodder_lappy | hi |
| 01:49.46 | xbmodder_lappy | sup all? |
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| 01:53.20 | xbmodder_lappy | hi hatchmt |
| 01:53.33 | hatchmt | hi xbmodder_lappy |
| 01:55.14 | xbmodder_lappy | how are you hatchmt ? |
| 01:56.11 | hatchmt | Good and dandy |
| 01:56.13 | hatchmt | yourself? |
| 01:58.19 | xbmodder_lappy | bored... |
| 01:58.55 | hatchmt | Likewise |
| 02:00.55 | hatchmt | I'm actually goofing around, trying to get a Gentoo install going in VMWare. Just because I've never done it before. |
| 02:01.32 | xbmodder_lappy | hatchmt, prepare for a long night |
| 02:01.38 | xbmodder_lappy | with Lots of coffee |
| 02:01.46 | hatchmt | Nah |
| 02:01.52 | hatchmt | That's what the suspend button is for. :) |
| 02:02.20 | hatchmt | If it takes me weeks, so be it. It's *definitely* not important for me to be doing this. :) |
| 02:02.27 | mheath | hatchmt: I've been playing with ITS on an emulator all night. |
| 02:03.07 | hatchmt | mheath: ITS? |
| 02:04.01 | mheath | hatchmt: Incompatible Timesharing System (It wasn't 'incompatible'...that name was chosen as a spoof of the Compatible Timesharing System, which the ITS developers didn't care for) |
| 02:04.26 | hatchmt | Mainframe software? |
| 02:04.40 | mheath | hatchmt: Not really. It ran on PDP-7 |
| 02:04.45 | mheath | (Later PDP-10 and PDP-11) |
| 02:05.14 | mheath | Developed in the late 1960's, I believe |
| 02:05.25 | mheath | It was a forunner to UNIX. Really neat to play with |
| 02:09.22 | hatchmt | AH |
| 02:09.23 | hatchmt | er |
| 02:09.24 | hatchmt | Ah |
| 02:09.34 | hatchmt | I never touched DEC equipment |
| 02:09.40 | hatchmt | and/or software. :) |
| 02:20.33 | hans | so anyone know, what's the latest in the cdrecord/2.6 saga? |
| 02:22.11 | ScytheBlade1 | The warning, if it still exists, is just plain wrong |
| 02:22.18 | ScytheBlade1 | You don't need SCSI emulation anymore either |
| 02:22.49 | ScytheBlade1 | 2.6.12 had issues with burning as a non-root user, due to a security patch which restricted which users could send raw commands to the drive bus, but that has been fixed also |
| 02:22.54 | xbmodder_lappy | ScytheBlade1, hows 10.4 |
| 02:23.03 | ScytheBlade1 | xbmodder_lappy, speedy |
| 02:23.17 | xbmodder_lappy | ScytheBlade1, did you join the xbmodder_lappy bashing club? |
| 02:23.20 | hans | well, since 2.6.8 ide-cd has just been terrible |
| 02:23.20 | hans | but I haven't tried in a long while |
| 02:23.20 | hans | so maybe they fixed it |
| 02:23.21 | ScytheBlade1 | xbmodder_lappy, and downloading 800MB at 10kB/second isn't going to happen in a period |
| 02:23.45 | ScytheBlade1 | hans, I've never tried 2.6.8, but ever since .13 or so it's been flawless |
| 02:23.56 | ScytheBlade1 | xbmodder_lappy, the what? |
| 02:24.23 | hans | i'm trying to burn something now with 2.6.14 and ide-scsi and my computer (not this laptop) is going ballistic on IDE bus traffic |
| 02:24.33 | hans | and the small ISO is still not burnt |
| 02:24.36 | ScytheBlade1 | You don't need ide-scsi anymore :) |
| 02:25.12 | ScytheBlade1 | hans, sec, lemme grab an RW |
| 02:25.20 | hans | so they've fixed the problems with ide-cd? 2.6.8 it was being touted as the way to go but it was really not yet working as well as ide-scsi was |
| 02:25.36 | hans | and some people, like me, had very major issues |
| 02:25.49 | ScytheBlade1 | Well, I never once got ide-scsi to work |
| 02:26.07 | hans | well I burned for months with ide-scsi quite happily |
| 02:26.10 | ScytheBlade1 | I ran into issues burning on 2.6.11-->.12 or so, but it works fine for me |
| 02:27.47 | hans | ok, so ide-scsi is giving me this |
| 02:27.49 | hans | hdd: status timeout: status=0xd0 { Busy } |
| 02:27.49 | hans | ide: failed opcode was: unknown |
| 02:27.58 | hans | but at least it didn't lock up my cdrom requiring a reboot (as ide-cd is known to) |
| 02:28.13 | ScytheBlade1 | What kernel version? |
| 02:28.22 | hans | 2.6.14 |
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| 02:29.03 | ScytheBlade1 | blah, where's the k3b verbose output |
| 02:29.15 | hans | i take that back, it did lock up the cdrom |
| 02:29.27 | hans | # rmmod ide-scsi |
| 02:29.27 | hans | Segmentation fault |
| 02:29.43 | ScytheBlade1 | /usr/bin/cdrecord -v gracetime=2 dev=/dev/hdd speed=52 -tao driveropts=burnfree -eject -data /home/kyle/dev/jukebox/build/jukebox.iso <-- works flawlessly, and I have exactly 0 SCSI and CD related stuff in my kernel |
| 02:29.54 | ScytheBlade1 | 2.6.13, vanilla |
| 02:32.30 | ScytheBlade1 | I take it back, I have some SCSI stuff enabled, but nothing CD related, just MMC card reader related |
| 02:35.18 | ScytheBlade1 | ..and that was a horrible run-on sentence of mine. Wow. |
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| 02:42.17 | ScytheBlade1 | afk shower |
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| 02:54.02 | xbmodder_lappy | anyone know how to play .TiVo files under linux? |
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| 03:06.14 | maquis | -lart printers |
| 03:11.10 | xbmodder_lappy | ~lart tivo |
| 03:13.26 | maquis | Here's a great idea; Sony can use a feature of the rootkit to inform infected users that they're infected. |
| 03:13.30 | maquis | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:13.37 | maquis | This is so obviously the right thing to do. My guess is that it'll never happen. |
| 03:13.39 | maquis | gotta love schneier |
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| 03:38.57 | mheath | ~lart sudden and major changes in seabag requirements |
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| 03:50.06 | maquis | -lart amcnabb |
| 03:50.16 | maquis | stupid bot |
| 03:50.18 | maquis | ~lart amcnabb |
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| 04:49.08 | hans | ScytheBlade1: looks like it was my cdrw. It worked perfectly until it stopped working, but I just tried it in 2.4.27 and it didn't work there either |
| 04:49.18 | hans | my guess is @#%@ cdrecord fried it. |
| 04:49.19 | ScytheBlade1 | hans, :/ |
| 04:49.40 | hans | luckily I have a spare, and it worked fine in 2.4.27, and if I can figure out what I did with my cdrw I'll try it in 2.6.14 |
| 04:50.01 | hans | I'm hoping I didn't leave it in the old drive |
| 04:50.06 | ScytheBlade1 | I'd say give the ATA stuff a try |
| 04:50.21 | ScytheBlade1 | It really performs well for me, and it's just less things to have around in kernelspace |
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| 05:08.55 | tensai | ~rlart |
| 05:09.55 | xbmodder_lappy | wow. |
| 05:10.06 | xbmodder_lappy | ATA is cool |
| 05:11.11 | graphyx_home | ~poke ibot |
| 05:11.13 | ibot | but then who will poke the pokers, graphyx_home? JoshH? |
| 05:19.11 | xbmodder_lappy | ScytheBlade1, has APPLE got completely to SATA yet? |
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| 05:22.51 | ScytheBlade1 | xbmodder_lappy, no clue. I don't follow much hardware at all. |
| 05:27.52 | xbmodder_lappy | oh :( |
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| 06:07.42 | goozbach | even more than RHNA[A |
| 06:08.23 | goozbach | bah |
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| 06:36.07 | findlay | bonez39: to make a new channel, all you have to do is join it |
| 06:37.06 | findlay | if you want it permanent, you have to talk to the freenode guys to get ChanServ to stay in it |
| 06:39.18 | goozbach | just register the channel |
| 06:39.26 | goozbach | <PROTECTED> |
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| 11:03.39 | Tene | ~grumble |
| 11:03.40 | ibot | An authenticating chat server somewhat different from IRC. URL: http://opop.nols.com/index.shtml |
| 11:03.48 | Tene | ~loud |
| 11:03.54 | Tene | ~loudly |
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| 11:36.26 | maquis | ~lart emcnabb |
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| 14:40.33 | graphyx | so xbmodder You get your xbox 360 yet? |
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| 15:58.06 | hans | there's gonna be some good eats tomorrow |
| 16:10.29 | graphyx | Is there a /* */ style commenting in perl? |
| 16:11.58 | dataw0lf | Perl doesn't have multiline commenting. |
| 16:12.07 | graphyx | Ok thanks dataw0lf |
| 16:12.16 | dataw0lf | Larry Wall doesn't like them or something. |
| 16:12.21 | graphyx | I didn't think so, but I was hoping. |
| 16:12.41 | dataw0lf | http://www.perl.com/pub/a/2001/05/03/wall.html#rfc005 |
| 16:14.08 | dataw0lf | graphyx: you can use POD I guess. |
| 16:14.35 | graphyx | Well I just bit the bullet and did a barrage of #'s |
| 16:14.35 | dataw0lf | or use quote operators. |
| 16:14.51 | graphyx | The quote stuff is an interesting potential. |
| 16:15.24 | dataw0lf | Yeah. Personally, I'd pray that I didn't have to use Perl. |
| 16:15.26 | dataw0lf | :D |
| 16:15.35 | graphyx | Perl was my choice. |
| 16:16.02 | dataw0lf | tsk |
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| 16:23.05 | synic | =begin and =end work graphyx |
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| 17:03.38 | graphyx | I know this seems a stupid quesiton, but the convention is that if a function completes properly it should return a 0 right? |
| 17:04.21 | mrpull- | graphyx: that is a common convention |
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| 17:09.20 | Hhhhh | hello |
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| 17:11.14 | Hhhhh | hey guys, for some odd reason my ip was banned (someone thought I was a clone bot or something), how do I go about talking to someone in order tyo fix that? |
| 17:11.53 | graphyx | baned from #utah or freenode? |
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| 17:12.41 | Hhhhh | anybody can give me some ideas please? |
| 17:12.53 | graphyx | Baned from #utah or freenode? |
| 17:13.01 | Hhhhh | freenode, klined |
| 17:13.12 | Hhhhh | somehow it thought i was some sort of clone bot |
| 17:13.43 | Hhhhh | i sent an email to staff but no answer yet, and I kindof needed some help from #suse |
| 17:14.57 | graphyx | How come you can get to #utah but not #suse? |
| 17:15.47 | Hhhhh | graphyx: i'm connecting through the cs dept, i sshed from home into my byu cs account and then to freenode |
| 17:16.07 | Hhhhh | but i can't use irssi, i wanna be able to connect straight from home |
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| 17:19.06 | Hhhhh | any ideas? is there some channel where I can talk to someone in charge? |
| 17:19.17 | graphyx | try #freenode |
| 17:19.43 | graphyx | or change the mac issued from your router and reconnect to your cable connection. new ip = ! banned. |
| 17:33.27 | tensai_ | ~wake hans |
| 17:33.28 | ibot | hans: GOOD MORNING!!! |
| 17:33.36 | hans | ~sleep tensai |
| 17:33.37 | ibot | ACTION sends tensai to bed without supper |
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| 18:00.23 | graphyx | how can you get the number of matches found in a string? |
| 18:00.48 | graphyx | sorry.. context: perl |
| 18:13.58 | harleypig | graphyx: $count = $string =~ /regex/ |
| 18:14.26 | harleypig | err ... |
| 18:14.33 | harleypig | $count = $string =~ /regex/g |
| 18:15.04 | harleypig | hmmm ... |
| 18:15.14 | harleypig | ignore me for a ssecond |
| 18:16.27 | mrpull- | hrrmm... it says stick it in a while loop |
| 18:16.35 | mrpull- | their has got to be a better way |
| 18:16.42 | mrpull- | s/their/there/ |
| 18:18.08 | mrpull- | $count++ while $string =~ /PAT/g; |
| 18:18.14 | harleypig | I seem to remember having trouble initially with $c = $s =~ /regex/ because '$s =~ /regex/' returns data in a list context ... |
| 18:20.02 | mrpull- | http://www.chinalinuxpub.com/doc/oreillybookself/perl/cookbook/ch06_06.htm |
| 18:20.09 | mrpull- | buy the book. don't use that link. |
| 18:20.26 | graphyx | Ok Thanks. |
| 18:20.28 | harleypig | :] |
| 18:20.43 | graphyx | I hadn't planned on starting a debate. |
| 18:21.00 | harleypig | hmmm ... $c = $s =~ /regex/ returns 1 no matter waht. interesting. |
| 18:21.12 | harleypig | graphyx: :] not a debate ... more of an experiment. |
| 18:23.14 | harleypig | http://www.olegvolk.net/gallery/arms/hatlady0805 |
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| 18:31.09 | bonez39 | anyone here experience any trouble with the SOBAR virus recently? |
| 18:31.20 | bonez39 | a bug from germany |
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| 18:34.52 | mrpull- | graphyx: did you find a solution? |
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| 18:44.13 | harleypig | I'm soooooo jealous! http://www.olegvolk.net/gallery/album08/Nooks_50th_02_0379 |
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| 18:56.54 | goozbach | |
| 18:58.32 | goozbach | bah! |
| 18:58.38 | goozbach | stupid connection |
| 19:07.30 | findlay | lart goozbach's connections |
| 19:07.33 | findlay | ~lart goozbach's connections |
| 19:17.04 | mrpull- | FC5 Test 1? |
| 19:17.48 | jsmith | mrpull-: What about it? |
| 19:17.50 | mrpull- | every distro starting to feel stagnant to me right now. |
| 19:17.59 | mrpull- | updated Xen support could be cool i suppose |
| 19:18.25 | jsmith | mrpull-: Yeah, and the modular X stuff, new version of Gnome and KDE, improved OO.o |
| 19:18.42 | findlay | forget xen, what's yum going to be like. Will it be useful, responsive? |
| 19:18.53 | mrpull- | jsmith: perhaps I don't pay as close as attention as I used to :-P |
| 19:19.05 | jsmith | findlay: Yes, they've improved that too, but probably won't be rolled in until Test 2 at the earliest |
| 19:19.10 | mrpull- | has Gnome / KDE had significant updates? |
| 19:20.08 | jsmith | Dunno -- haven't really checked it out yet... |
| 19:23.32 | mrpull- | are there any non-developer benefits to the modular X.org? |
| 19:24.08 | tensai_ | jsmith: you remember my christmas wishlist program from last year? I eventually finished and used it. It was well liked, so we're gearing up for another run. You still interested in it? |
| 19:25.54 | scott | anyone know of a really good photo gallery package? http://imagevuex.inn.no/imagevue/?configfile=config8.ini looks pretty cool, but a free one would be nice.. |
| 19:26.25 | scott | tensai_: do you know what russell is doing for thanksgiving? |
| 19:26.47 | tensai_ | scott: I use gallery.sf.net, I know Jayce^ uses Apache::Gallery |
| 19:27.05 | tensai_ | scott: no idea. maybe going to colorado. I know that's where he's going for Christmas. |
| 19:27.18 | tensai_ | he's not coming up here AFAIK |
| 19:27.57 | scott | the problem with gallery is you have to update it all the time |
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| 19:32.49 | jebar | hans: ping |
| 19:32.52 | jsmith | tensai_: Yeah, point me to it again. |
| 19:33.05 | jsmith | scott: Gallery2 looks really slick. |
| 19:34.09 | tensai_ | jsmith: there's not really a website for it yet. you can get it from subversion. http://www.zmonkey.org/svn/wishlist/trunk/ |
| 19:34.24 | jsmith | tensai_: Does it have a nice front-end now? |
| 19:34.31 | jsmith | tensai_: What database backend does it use? |
| 19:34.32 | tensai_ | heck no |
| 19:34.40 | tensai_ | jsmith: only mysql :( |
| 19:34.48 | jsmith | Gah! |
| 19:34.52 | jsmith | What's it written in? |
| 19:34.56 | tensai_ | php :( |
| 19:35.03 | jsmith | OK, I'll check it out. |
| 19:35.12 | jsmith | Might even get around to submitting some patches. |
| 19:36.08 | hans | gallery2 looks like an improved version of gallery (shocking I know), but without any improvement in design |
| 19:36.11 | hans | as in software design |
| 19:36.37 | hans | plus when I was checking out gallery2, their website was full of simple html problems that didn't instill confidence in me |
| 19:36.51 | jsmith | hans: Really? I had heard that the software had been redesigned from scratch, was full of unit tests, exception handling, etc. |
| 19:37.03 | hans | yup, but still has a bad design |
| 19:37.08 | jsmith | Ahhh... |
| 19:37.10 | hans | they didn't rethink their design |
| 19:37.17 | jsmith | Figures. |
| 19:37.22 | hans | at least, from where I sat when I looked at it, that's the impression I got |
| 19:37.29 | findlay | all you need is a little imagemagick, a dash of perl, and throw in a shell script |
| 19:37.29 | hans | but I didn't go audit the code or anything |
| 19:37.39 | jsmith | When all you know how to use is a hammer, everything is a nail? |
| 19:38.04 | jsmith | hans: Neither have I... I just read some other people's random comments on it |
| 19:41.16 | hans | my dream site is simple: I dump the photos in a directory, and it shows them organized by date, with the ability to add titles and comments |
| 19:41.36 | hans | i've started writing it and gotten bored a few times. :) |
| 19:41.48 | findlay | in rails? |
| 19:41.56 | hans | one beginning was |
| 19:42.03 | hans | the other was simple ruby |
| 19:42.10 | hans | the other was shell (that was the shortest-lived) |
| 19:42.32 | hans | actually, technically it was the longest-lived, because in the form it was I used it for the longest time |
| 19:42.53 | findlay | what if you had the title and comments in the image file header? |
| 19:42.53 | hans | at the moment, I copped out and use flickr, until I get the gumption to really do ti |
| 19:43.01 | hans | yeah, exif-aware |
| 19:43.10 | mrpull- | i use flickr. it is good for me. |
| 19:43.15 | mrpull- | but i'm a slacker |
| 19:55.59 | Tene | apparently in a book about the enron scandal, one employee described the days leading up to the major incident as going to work with your hair on fire and all you have to put it out with is a hammer. |
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| 19:55.59 | Tene | Which quickly lead to the expression "When all you have is a hammer, everything looks like your hair is on fire." |
| 19:56.52 | harleypig | scott: I just ran across this freshmeat update ... http://freshmeat.net/projects/fdcl/ Don't know if you're still looking for a gallery, or if this is what you're looking for though. |
| 19:57.46 | findlay | why can't I find my uncle's homepage? |
| 19:58.36 | Tene | because he hates you |
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| 20:09.54 | harleypig | Tene++ |
| 20:09.57 | harleypig | :D |
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| 20:21.19 | findlay | ibot+- |
| 20:22.27 | findlay | google hath failed me |
| 20:53.54 | graphyx | findlay: In my opinion the only way google can fail is if it didn't index the page at all. Otherwise the page will turn up by asking the correct question. |
| 20:54.11 | findlay | indeed |
| 20:54.25 | graphyx | Google knows everything, but you need to ask the right question. |
| 20:55.01 | findlay | but google respects robots.txt. Does that limit its knowledge? |
| 20:55.11 | graphyx | yes. |
| 20:55.30 | graphyx | But that is a feature. |
| 20:56.52 | hans | if your uncle doesn't want to be found... |
| 20:58.07 | findlay | I don't think he has a web site anymore |
| 20:58.50 | scott | harleypig: thanks |
| 20:59.00 | findlay | it seems most ISPs threaten against personal websites |
| 21:06.48 | graphyx | threaten against personal websites or personal web servers? |
| 21:07.39 | findlay | their customers hosting content |
| 21:14.31 | hans | you're still ambiguous |
| 21:15.14 | hans | personal websites or web servers? |
| 21:15.49 | graphyx | hans: He probably means having customers on their networks hosting web servers. |
| 21:15.59 | graphyx | as that would make sense. |
| 21:16.19 | hans | yup, but less sensational |
| 21:18.31 | graphyx | you news hound. who do you work for!!!?? |
| 21:20.02 | graphyx | Ok whats a good way of getting the time a function takes? |
| 21:20.28 | graphyx | I would like hh:mm:Ss output. |
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| 21:26.29 | vontrapp | -lart hans |
| 21:30.54 | Uncle_Jesse | ~spell chartruse |
| 21:31.12 | Uncle_Jesse | ibot, thanks |
| 21:31.12 | ibot | Uncle_Jesse: no worries |
| 21:31.44 | tensai_ | as long as they don't cause problems, we have better things to worry about |
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| 21:43.22 | Uncle_Jesse | ~spell fuchia |
| 21:43.48 | Uncle_Jesse | ibot, thakns |
| 21:43.52 | Uncle_Jesse | ibot, thanks |
| 21:43.52 | ibot | Uncle_Jesse: de nada |
| 21:45.52 | graphyx | That would have been funny. |
| 21:45.58 | graphyx | To have a name of ~rlart |
| 21:46.18 | graphyx | Then when people spoke to you Ibot would go on a lart frenzy. |
| 21:46.35 | graphyx | But you can't have ~ in a name. |
| 21:46.43 | graphyx | ibot rlart |
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| 21:48.35 | TimRiker | any suse folk around? Mecworks? |
| 21:49.05 | TimRiker | what's the difference between "commercial" SuSE 10 and free SuSE 10? |
| 21:49.15 | TimRiker | are the the same iso images? |
| 21:49.26 | TimRiker | or os OpenSuSE something else? |
| 21:49.43 | TimRiker | it the latest sles still v 9? and are there plans to upgrade it? |
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| 22:44.35 | Uncle_Jesse | alright - I've got a good perl regex question: |
| 22:44.54 | Uncle_Jesse | I want to search and replace "everything but" <table>.*?</table> |
| 22:45.03 | Uncle_Jesse | I've tried: |
| 22:45.35 | Uncle_Jesse | s/[^(<table>.*?<\/table>)]//gi |
| 22:45.39 | Uncle_Jesse | no luck |
| 22:45.44 | Uncle_Jesse | any ideas? |
| 22:51.26 | TimRiker | Uncle_Jesse: that won't work as you have discovered. |
| 22:51.45 | TimRiker | [] is for chars and char ranges, not for strings. |
| 22:52.05 | Uncle_Jesse | ah - do I need to do a look-ahead? |
| 22:52.52 | TimRiker | s/,*<table>/<table>/ and s~</table>,*~</table>~ ? |
| 22:53.24 | TimRiker | er those should be .* not ,* |
| 22:53.42 | Uncle_Jesse | good idea - I'll do that instead |
| 22:53.55 | Uncle_Jesse | any way to do a one-liner with just 1 regex? |
| 22:54.28 | TimRiker | s/.*\(<table>.*?<\/table>\).*/$1/gi might work. |
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| 22:55.58 | Uncle_Jesse | good idea - I was thinking too hard |
| 22:56.08 | EC1 | ~poke maquis |
| 22:56.09 | ibot | but then who will poke the pokers, ec1? bonez39? |
| 22:56.25 | EC1 | ~tickle maquis |
| 22:56.26 | ibot | ACTION jumps on maquis, yelling "TICKLE FIGHT!!!!" |
| 23:33.50 | Supaplex | ~entertain everyone |
| 23:33.58 | Supaplex | meh |
| 23:36.20 | jsmith | Supaplex! |
| 23:36.31 | Supaplex | hey =) |
| 23:36.48 | jsmith | What's up? |
| 23:37.13 | Supaplex | waiting for quitin' time with baited breath :-P |
| 23:37.39 | Supaplex | you? |
| 23:38.46 | Supaplex | I heard the state decied to axe the idea about selling off the prison grounds and nearby area. how far away is it in your area? |
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| 23:46.19 | jsmith | Supaplex: Just putting out fires. |
| 23:46.31 | jsmith | Supaplex: Gotta hate when all kinds of things are crazy just before a major holiday |
| 23:47.54 | Supaplex | yupyup |
| 23:49.06 | Supaplex | http://commuterlink.utah.gov ewww nasty lookin I-15 |
| 23:49.41 | Supaplex | l8r |
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| 23:55.57 | EC1 | ~lart Aspen Ridge Management |
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| 23:56.43 | EC1 | We told them that our cable router is broken and is down a quarter of the time, so the geniuses decided to take it over the break. |
| 23:57.21 | EC1 | We actually left it pinging google all night and used the missed packet percentage to show them the problem. |
