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| 00:15.47 | lars-ut | PING! |
| 00:16.12 | lars-ut | ~seen jsmith |
| 00:16.17 | ibot | jsmith <n=jsmith@64.0.193.151> was last seen on IRC in channel #asterisk-doc, 1h 19m 23s ago, saying: 'Okie...'. |
| 00:18.28 | jsmith-away | lars-ut: I'm here... |
| 00:19.23 | maquis | ~seen levi |
| 00:19.25 | ibot | levi <n=levi@66.239.25.2.ptr.us.xo.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #utah, 2h 32m 30s ago, saying: 'Yeah, that's a good idea. I never liked them anyway. Unfortunately, there's no bridge handy for them to jump off of afterward.'. |
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| 00:27.05 | emcnabb | what is the topic at this week's SLLUG meeting? |
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| 00:27.18 | sjansen | ~lart emcnabb |
| 00:27.21 | maquis | Peregrine: sup? |
| 00:27.27 | emcnabb | ~lart Peregrine |
| 00:27.31 | emcnabb | ~lart maquis |
| 00:27.37 | maquis | ~lart emcnabb |
| 00:27.44 | sjansen | ~lart maquis |
| 00:27.46 | maquis | emcnabb: how's it going? |
| 00:27.49 | maquis | ~lart sjansen |
| 00:27.58 | emcnabb | not much |
| 00:28.09 | maquis | emcnabb: cool |
| 00:28.12 | maquis | busy? |
| 00:28.20 | emcnabb | just finished a busy day a work |
| 00:28.39 | Peregrine | Maquis: nutin much. |
| 00:29.26 | maquis | emcnabb: fun... at least you're done :) |
| 00:29.27 | maquis | Peregrine: cool |
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| 00:31.30 | Peregrine | Well, I'm going to head home soon, gotta play some WoW, tonight. :) |
| 00:32.47 | ScytheBlade1 | This is fun |
| 00:33.03 | ScytheBlade1 | My mobo in combo with my NIC causes a hard-lock (not even the magic SysRq works) |
| 00:35.24 | sjansen | http://quizilla.com/users/dphenreckson/quizzes/To%20which%20race%20of%20Middle%20Earth%20do%20you%20belong%3F/ |
| 00:36.19 | jsmith | sjansen: I think the thing is a little biased, when 40% of respondents all end up with the same answer... |
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| 00:38.01 | sjansen | Entish. 15% or people. |
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| 00:48.21 | tensai | so the answer to yesterdays puzzle of "eat my other loaf of ciabatta or save it for tomorrow" turned out to be, "eat it now and make another two for tomorrow". |
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| 01:46.45 | colera_ | anyone here a byu cs admin? |
| 01:48.45 | colera_ | so i initiated a screen session on an ssh session on the cs comps and then i detached but the way they have it set up you scycle to diff. machines everytime you logon so i i can't rme my screen session |
| 01:49.16 | colera_ | is there a way to logon to a specific cs machine. like monsters.cs.byu/.edu ? |
| 01:49.39 | elg | you should be able to log directly into the machine of interest |
| 01:50.01 | elg | only if you ssh schizo.cs.byu.edu will you get the loadbalancing |
| 01:50.05 | colera_ | i tried but it just scycles you. i think you used to be able to do that |
| 01:50.07 | elg | at least, that's how it was when I was there. |
| 01:50.16 | elg | you can always hop |
| 01:50.24 | elg | I think from within it would have to go there |
| 01:50.36 | colera_ | oh good idea |
| 01:50.38 | elg | otherwise there's little point to them having names, eh? :) |
| 01:50.42 | colera_ | yeah |
| 01:50.46 | colera_ | lemme try |
| 01:51.28 | emcnabb | I think BYU forced the CS dept to use local IPs on all the lab machines |
| 01:51.44 | emcnabb | I don't think you can give a direct machine name any more |
| 01:51.49 | emcnabb | I could be wrong though |
| 01:53.31 | colera_ | if i try to ssh to monsters.cs.byu.edu from another ssh session on a cs machine it still doesn't work |
| 01:53.34 | colera_ | hmm |
| 01:53.51 | colera_ | i guess my screen session will just run indefinitely on that one machine |
| 01:53.52 | colera_ | : ) |
| 01:54.40 | emcnabb | once you get on one of the lab machines, you should be able to SSH to that one directly |
| 01:55.12 | colera_ | but only when i am actually in the lab? |
| 01:56.17 | colera_ | like right now i am using irssi from a lab machine (err i think it's a lab machine) that i ssh'ed into and i can't get to monsters.cs.byu.edu |
| 01:56.45 | colera_ | it just pops me onto a random machine |
| 01:57.31 | Newsome | so SSH from there into the one you left your screen session on |
| 01:57.50 | colera_ | yeah i did but it doesn't go to that machine it goes to a random machine |
| 01:58.19 | colera_ | like sshing into monsters.cs.byu.edu puts me on rabbit.cs.byu.edu |
| 01:58.22 | Newsome | monsters.cs.byu.edu isn't a single machine |
| 01:58.35 | colera_ | oh : ) |
| 01:59.41 | Newsome | try kraken |
| 01:59.58 | colera_ | well my screen session is on monsters.cs.byu.edu |
| 02:00.37 | Newsome | no, it's not. monsters is just an IP that redirects you to one of the machines in the monsters lab |
| 02:00.54 | colera_ | oh alright |
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| 02:01.21 | colera_ | Newsome: is there a way for me to specify a logon to a specific machine?> |
| 02:01.32 | colera_ | like so i can resume screen sessions? |
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| 02:02.21 | Newsome | from any machine within the department, you can get direcly into a machine |
| 02:02.49 | colera_ | okay cool |
| 02:03.06 | colera_ | so i just need to remember the name of the machine i was using |
| 02:05.33 | colera_ | hmm if only i could figure out which machine my screen session is on : ) |
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| 02:05.46 | Newsome | try werewolf |
| 02:07.12 | colera_ | nice that is it |
| 02:07.16 | colera_ | how did you know? |
| 02:08.02 | Newsome | I ran a short script on all the computers in that lab |
| 02:08.19 | colera | w00t! |
| 02:08.44 | colera | well from now on i will remeber which machine i am on |
| 02:09.27 | tensai | ~spork sjansen |
| 02:09.28 | ibot | ACTION tries to stab sjansen with a spork and fails, then attempts to gouge out sjansen's eyeballs. Success! The spork IS useful! |
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| 02:12.17 | emcnabb | sjansen worked hard today |
| 02:12.21 | emcnabb | he should go sleep |
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| 02:29.30 | maquis | sjansen: did work? |
| 02:29.31 | maquis | er |
| 02:29.37 | maquis | s/:// |
| 02:30.09 | tensai | hmm. so a spammer includes an 800 number as their contact method. would it be unethical to call that number and waste their money? |
| 02:31.01 | maquis | colera: monsters osm |
| 02:31.05 | synic | no. It might be unethical to get everyone you know to call it. |
| 02:31.05 | maquis | er |
| 02:31.15 | maquis | monsters isn't a specific machine you ssh into |
| 02:31.28 | maquis | it's like schizo in that it points to a number of machines |
| 02:33.11 | maquis | hmmm |
| 02:33.24 | maquis | Newsome already explained that fact to colera |
| 02:33.28 | maquis | ~invoke levi |
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| 02:39.49 | tensai | synic: see, I want to call it a lot of times. I'm pretty sure I'd be on shaky ground with that. |
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| 02:45.16 | tensai | I swear, I'm constantly explaining to people how BCC works. is it really that hard of a concept? |
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| 04:18.59 | xbmodder_lappy | sjansen, upIRC? |
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| 04:19.18 | xbmodder_lappy | or not.. you tethering? |
| 04:24.32 | sjansen | bluetooth |
| 04:25.24 | xbmodder_lappy | *envy* |
| 04:25.34 | xbmodder_lappy | crap;py 600 breaks |
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| 05:12.52 | levi | Good evening. |
| 05:14.16 | mrpull | what's up levi? |
| 05:14.42 | levi | Doing a little hacking on my Lisp port of Markdown, and procrastinating my paper. |
| 05:15.04 | ScytheBlade1 | http://qstuff.blogspot.com/2005/11/md5-is-officially-dead.html <-- ut-oh |
| 05:15.55 | levi | Hrm, that's unfortunate. |
| 05:16.16 | ScytheBlade1 | 45 minutes on a 1.6GHz P4 |
| 05:16.48 | xbmodder_lappy | cool. |
| 05:17.02 | xbmodder_lappy | ScytheBlade1, did you get 10.4 |
| 05:17.14 | ScytheBlade1 | xbmodder_lappy, it'll be a week or so |
| 05:17.30 | ScytheBlade1 | xbmodder_lappy, it has to be ordered through my school district, sent to them, then bounced over to us, then installed |
| 05:18.22 | ScytheBlade1 | heh, for MD4: Average runtime on P4 1.6ghz - 5 seconds |
| 05:18.30 | xbmodder_lappy | can't you just install it |
| 05:18.40 | xbmodder_lappy | MD4 is a great algorithm |
| 05:18.46 | xbmodder_lappy | --its fast |
| 05:18.51 | ScytheBlade1 | It's kinda hard to install a copy of 10.4 without the 10.4 disc, you know? |
| 05:19.35 | xbmodder_lappy | well don't you have your own 10.4 system? |
| 05:20.03 | ScytheBlade1 | ....no.... |
| 05:20.42 | xbmodder_lappy | nevermind |
| 05:20.43 | xbmodder_lappy | :) |
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| 05:28.31 | ScytheBlade1 | To quote someone who knows far more about this an I do: "It allows you to generate two messages that have the same hash. It doesn't allow you to create a message that has the same hash as an existing message" |
| 05:28.56 | levi | ScytheBlade1: Well, if you think that, you should take a look at this: http://www.cits.rub.de/MD5Collisions/ |
| 05:28.58 | ScytheBlade1 | You can, with the bait and switch, use it against digital signatures rather easily |
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| 05:29.20 | levi | Digital signatures are rather different than digest authentication, though. |
| 05:29.45 | levi | By digest authentication, I mean mechanisms like HTTP's digest authentication. |
| 05:30.55 | levi | It seems that to base an attack on an md5 collision, you need to know what target hash function output to aim for. |
| 05:31.10 | levi | Which isn't known in the case of digest authentication. |
| 05:31.31 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah |
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| 07:02.35 | maquis | GAH! |
| 07:03.55 | xbmodder_lappy | what did you do? |
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| 07:04.09 | maquis | xbmodder_lappy: i didn't do anything |
| 07:04.15 | xbmodder_lappy | what happened? |
| 07:04.19 | maquis | murphy |
| 07:04.26 | ScytheBlade1 | Heh |
| 07:04.33 | ScytheBlade1 | It's always fun to see that as a reason for something :) |
| 07:04.47 | xbmodder_lappy | ~murphy |
| 07:04.48 | ibot | If anything can go wrong, it will. |
| 07:04.51 | xbmodder_lappy | bad grade? |
| 07:05.00 | maquis | no... much worse |
| 07:05.12 | xbmodder_lappy | no internet? |
| 07:05.16 | xbmodder_lappy | ;-) |
| 07:05.28 | maquis | we don't have any confirmation on anything right now, so i'm not going to go into detail until we actually know what's going on |
| 07:05.34 | xbmodder_lappy | umm... |
| 07:05.37 | xbmodder_lappy | what happened? |
| 07:05.48 | xbmodder_lappy | what do you think happened? |
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| 07:20.40 | *** topic/#utah by maquis -> The source for OSS focused discussion in Utah. See sllug.org, uphpu.org, plug.org, uug.byu.edu, uvlug.org, fslc.usu.edu, nupm.org, utwaa.org, oalug.com. See planetutah.adelantellc.com for aggregate feeds *** Due to the theft of a number of things, Jeff Waugh has had to cut the BadgerBadgerBadger tour short, and is currently in Australia. Thus, the UUG meeting for tuesday Nov, 15 has been cancelled. Apologies to everyone who was planning on atte |
| 07:20.46 | xbmodder_lappy | XO always has trouble |
| 07:20.54 | *** topic/#utah by maquis -> The source for OSS focused discussion in Utah. See sllug.org, uphpu.org, plug.org, uug.byu.edu, uvlug.org, fslc.usu.edu, nupm.org, utwaa.org, oalug.com. See planetutah.adelantellc.com for aggregate feeds *** Due to the theft of a number of things, Jeff Waugh has had to cut the BadgerBadgerBadger tour short, and is currently in Australia. Thus, the UUG meeting for tuesday Nov, 15 has been cancelled. Apologies to everyone.. |
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| 13:52.15 | elg | yikes. those crazy kanuks |
| 14:05.46 | xbmodder_lappy | hi |
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| 14:55.15 | xbmodder_lappy | morining |
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| 15:03.08 | graphyx | Ok I can get sound by doing cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp |
| 15:03.12 | graphyx | but I can't get xmms to play. |
| 15:03.26 | graphyx | mplayer will do it, but not xmms. |
| 15:06.50 | elg | what output plugin? |
| 15:07.26 | xbmodder_lappy | graphyx, which output plug-in? |
| 15:07.32 | graphyx | how do you check that? |
| 15:07.46 | xbmodder_lappy | menu > preferences |
| 15:07.48 | xbmodder_lappy | i guess |
| 15:10.22 | graphyx | Ok got it. |
| 15:10.24 | graphyx | Thanks. |
| 15:10.32 | graphyx | I moved to alsa and that got it working. |
| 15:10.42 | xbmodder_lappy | yeah |
| 15:10.59 | graphyx | Thanks again. |
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| 15:12.08 | xbmodder_lappy | Oh shiz -- I like AMD |
| 15:12.53 | xbmodder_lappy | 1.07 in what 2 hours? |
| 15:13.32 | graphyx | Whatdo you mean? |
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| 15:21.03 | maquis | for anyone who didn't get any emails and didn't notice the topic, there is no UUG meeting tonight... :( |
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| 15:54.25 | graphyx | anyone have any recommended linux softphones for SIP? |
| 15:59.03 | tensai | graphyx: D. none of the above |
| 15:59.21 | graphyx | tensai: What were A,B, and C? |
| 15:59.47 | tensai | I've not been impressed with soft phones in general. x-lite (win32) is decent. iaxcomm works ok, but isn't SIP. |
| 16:00.10 | tensai | tried linphone, kphone, and some others I can't recall. sucked, sucked, sucked. |
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| 16:01.01 | graphyx | tensai: Ok. |
| 16:01.25 | tensai | sorry to be a stick in the mud :( |
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| 16:03.37 | graphyx | tensai: Say what you feel. |
| 16:04.04 | graphyx | If you are frustrated with it I'll take a grain of salt when looking at it. |
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| 16:05.16 | tensai | I never got one to work reliably, except for x-lite and iaxcomm. my hard phones work a lot better. |
| 16:05.38 | elg | we talking softphones? |
| 16:05.40 | tensai | xten was supposed to be releasing x-lite for linux. I think they deprecated it in favor of some other software, though. |
| 16:05.43 | tensai | elg: yuppers |
| 16:05.44 | graphyx | tensai: I am sure they do. But at $150-$350 a piece they are a lot more expensive. |
| 16:06.02 | elg | i thought they had x-lite for linux? |
| 16:07.02 | tensai | sure 'nuff. http://www.xten.net/download/X-Lite_Install.tar.gz |
| 16:07.19 | elg | iaxcomm works ok, but its interface is lame-o with a capital O |
| 16:07.36 | tensai | wouldn't that be "lame-O" then? |
| 16:07.54 | elg | then I wouldn't have to say "with a capital O" and how much fun would that be? |
| 16:08.14 | elg | the interface isn't so bad, really, if it would work |
| 16:08.23 | elg | the accounts dialog is particularly terrible |
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| 16:09.40 | tensai | my choice for connecting to asterisk would be iaxcomm. I can deal with goofy interfaces if the thing actually works. |
| 16:09.40 | tensai | all the other SIP phones I tried fail that test |
| 16:10.04 | elg | yup :) |
| 16:10.34 | elg | x-lite (on my mac) works better than iaxcomm. (as in crashes less often, and also the interface isn't so lame) |
| 16:10.38 | elg | it does crash sometimes though |
| 16:11.03 | tensai | tricking x-lite into talking to asterisk is a bit tricky |
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| 16:11.25 | elg | i didn't have much trouble. not more than any sip device anyway |
| 16:11.52 | elg | i did have to look in the manual to figure out what to put in what fields |
| 16:12.17 | RyanE | have you guys looked at iaxy? I know they're pricy, but I'm curious how well one would work if I set it up and shipped it off to my in-laws in another state... |
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| 16:12.44 | elg | if you set it up right, it should work fine. :) |
| 16:13.20 | elg | i started writing a softphone a while back. got as far as talking to asterisk but sounded terrible (needs a jitterbuffer) |
| 16:13.23 | tensai | RyanE: I know jsmith has used them |
| 16:13.33 | elg | didn't feel like writing a jitterbuffer, so stopped |
| 16:13.51 | elg | never got to the UI either. :) |
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| 16:23.14 | graphyx | I want to do this: |
| 16:23.26 | graphyx | grep a|b * as in list all lines that have a or b. |
| 16:23.30 | graphyx | how do I do that? |
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| 16:25.18 | graphyx | ~say hi brac |
| 16:25.19 | ibot | hi brac |
| 16:25.20 | brac | ibot: hi! |
| 16:25.21 | ibot | hi |
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| 16:42.38 | elg | ~lart sjansen |
| 16:42.50 | elg | sweet. I always wanted a papa smurf |
| 16:48.17 | maquis | yeah |
| 16:48.19 | maquis | ier |
| 16:53.08 | elg | ier? |
| 16:53.27 | maquis | er |
| 16:53.33 | elg | r |
| 16:53.37 | maquis | right |
| 16:53.52 | elg | righ |
| 16:54.00 | maquis | rig |
| 16:54.04 | elg | ri |
| 16:54.12 | maquis | r |
| 16:55.04 | elg | ~smack sjansen |
| 16:55.05 | ibot | ACTION smacks sjansen upside the head. |
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| 16:58.20 | tensai | graphyx: grep -E '(a|b)' * |
| 17:18.43 | sjansen | So last week, a co-worker was told that he would be teaching a class in the office because everyone else was travelling... However, I was not travelling. |
| 17:19.01 | sjansen | Today, my employer described me as "a dim bulb". |
| 17:19.09 | sjansen | Dear #utah, should I be worried? |
| 17:19.53 | colera | hmm.. naahhhh |
| 17:19.59 | colera | i don't think so |
| 17:20.28 | tensai | sjansen: your competition is emcnabb and goozbach, so I wouldn't fret too much |
| 17:23.25 | goozbach | hey! I resemble that remark |
| 17:25.47 | graphyx | -weather KPVU |
| 17:25.48 | brac | 30 minutes ago, on Tue Nov 15 16:56:00 UTC 2005, the wind was calm at KPVU. The temperature was 0 degrees Celsius (32 degrees Fahrenheit), and the pressure was 1034 hPa (30.00 inHg). The relative humidity was 59.2%. There were a few clouds at a height of 640 meters (2100 feet). |
| 17:27.01 | sjansen | So I have a file with diff3 merge marks. Anyone know how to use vimdiff to easily perform a manual merge of that file? |
| 17:31.15 | RyanE | sjansen: you should only be worried if you actually are a "dim bulb" :) |
| 17:32.19 | goozbach | they're not "light bulbs" they're "dark suckers" |
| 17:32.56 | tensai | sjansen: see? nothing to worry about. |
| 17:33.22 | goozbach | so sjansen you just suck less than the rest of us |
| 17:35.20 | goozbach | http://paul.merton.ox.ac.uk/science/darksucker.html |
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| 17:38.34 | maquis | ~lart goozbach |
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| 18:14.48 | sjansen | "Dear whiner, you don't know the can of worms you have opened. As a long time member of multiple Linux related lists, I assure you that I can out flame, out complain, and out meta-discuss you." |
| 18:15.55 | sjansen | "I have sat at the feet of masters. My filter are finely honed, and my skin is thick. I wear asbestos underwear. Bring it on!" |
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| 18:34.03 | sjansen | http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-1459390,00.html |
| 18:34.07 | brac | [Britain, UK news from The Times and The Sunday Times - Times Online] |
| 18:39.31 | Bradipo | I wonder how the events would have played out if he had just told the truth... |
| 18:39.53 | Bradipo | ``Judge, I found the watch in the supermarket and kept it.'' |
| 18:43.34 | sjansen | Hopefully his wife would have slapped him. |
| 18:44.32 | Bradipo | The question arises... does the keeping of the watch mean a crime has been committed against the watch owner, or against the store owner? |
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| 19:07.13 | sjansen | Parrot, where art though? |
| 19:08.01 | levi | sjansen: It may be far off yet. |
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| 19:23.53 | findlay | ~rhello |
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| 19:26.31 | Tene | ~rlart |
| 19:29.49 | findlay | "Get your free copy of Red Hat(TM) Linux(R) 9.0. Offer expires today!" |
| 19:29.59 | findlay | seen in an adsense |
| 19:30.36 | amcnabb_ | wow |
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| 19:41.02 | RyanE | I think they mean your 'Collectors Edition' RH 9.0 |
| 19:41.37 | findlay | so it comes in a gold box? |
| 19:41.51 | findlay | RH-9.0 special edition(TM) |
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| 19:56.27 | RyanE | and the special features just ROCK, dude! |
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| 20:06.42 | findlay | from now on all my comment |
| 20:06.49 | findlay | s are going to be exactly- |
| 20:06.57 | JoshH | n |
| 20:07.03 | findlay | this long.---------------- |
| 20:07.06 | JoshH | oops |
| 20:08.08 | findlay | After all, think of all -- |
| 20:08.15 | findlay | the people who connect to- |
| 20:08.20 | findlay | irc on their treo and----- |
| 20:08.27 | findlay | simmilar handheld devices- |
| 20:13.00 | findlay | We don't want to flood --- |
| 20:13.07 | findlay | them out, do we? --------- |
| 20:13.29 | findlay | ~lart char[26] comments |
| 20:13.35 | RyanE | think of the *CHILDREN*... |
| 20:14.12 | findlay | ~lart char[26] comments -- |
| 20:14.28 | findlay | that's better ------------ |
| 20:15.04 | sjansen | ~eat findlay |
| 20:15.05 | ibot | ACTION eats findlay and falls over dead |
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| 20:18.00 | sjansen | ~mock sony |
| 20:18.01 | ibot | ACTION pulls sony's pants down and shows the world sony's pink spotted underwear |
| 20:20.51 | maquis | sony is so amazingly stupid --- it's hard to believe that the rootkit idea ever got approved... |
| 20:21.36 | findlay | Indeed I can't believe it. |
| 20:22.41 | maquis | i would think that an idea like that would never get through red tape to see the light of day |
| 20:23.26 | JoshH | holy crap, jeff waugh robbed? |
| 20:24.29 | JoshH | guess i wont be going down to utah county then |
| 20:25.07 | findlay | Or, see the darl of $sys$. |
| 20:25.24 | maquis | JoshH: yeah |
| 20:26.04 | maquis | JoshH: are you on sllug? or which mailing lists are you on? |
| 20:26.42 | maquis | we're hoping that everyone is hearing about the cancellation, particularly those farther outside of provo |
| 20:27.01 | JoshH | plug, sllug, and gubug locally |
| 20:27.07 | maquis | (not that we don't like the provo-ites... it's just that having someone come from slc would be really bad) |
| 20:27.27 | JoshH | might want to send an email to the other lists then just in case |
| 20:27.51 | maquis | JoshH: i sent it to all the lists i'm on, and to the presidents over the other lists... |
| 20:27.57 | JoshH | ah, ok |
| 20:28.03 | sjansen | JoshH: UTOSC was informed, at least some of the leaders have passed on the news |
| 20:28.08 | maquis | i don't know if they're going to post it though.... |
| 20:28.12 | goozbach | findlay: use irssi + screen and you don't have to worry about your treo seeing everything |
| 20:28.27 | goozbach | pssh has no problem reformating |
| 20:28.29 | sjansen | SLLUG posted it, URUG forwarded it to the list, PLUG knows |
| 20:28.47 | JoshH | ya, i see it now |
| 20:29.07 | JoshH | i always read the plug list first, because it has the most traffic, and it's the funniest |
| 20:31.59 | JoshH | i guess when people say canada is so safe that nobody needs a gun and nobody even locks their doors, they aren't talking about montreal. |
| 20:32.47 | Bradipo | You mean, nobody but the police and criminals... |
| 20:33.03 | JoshH | now i feel like michael moore lied to me in |
| 20:33.06 | JoshH | bfc |
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| 20:49.39 | findlay | howcome I don't get spam anymore that's fun to read? I think gmail is deliberately filtering out the funny spam in favor of the boring variety |
| 20:50.10 | maquis | findlay: i like the ones offering me money |
| 20:50.44 | maquis | unfortunately, judging from the subject lines, most of my recent ones have been boring as well |
| 20:51.21 | findlay | most of them seem to want to offer me crapware for a lot of money |
| 21:07.26 | sjansen | Oddly, my primary email address (emcnabb@mcnabbs.org) doesn't get much spam. |
| 21:08.00 | emcnabb | funny |
| 21:09.51 | Tene | ... wait a second... |
| 21:09.55 | Tene | that's not your address! |
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| 21:10.18 | Tene | You almost tricked me into spamming emcnabb. |
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| 21:13.10 | Tene | m'eh... |
| 21:18.03 | emcnabb | :-) |
| 21:21.43 | Tene | Huh. Exactly 100 copies of an email surprisingly similar to one I sent a few minutes ago. |
| 21:21.48 | Tene | What an interesting coincidence. |
| 21:23.28 | emcnabb | dang spammers |
| 21:24.08 | Tene | Why are the !s escaped? |
| 21:28.05 | emcnabb | I accidentally used " instead of ' and the shell was trying to interpret the !'s |
| 21:28.21 | emcnabb | it was a quick fix |
| 21:28.32 | Tene | 'kay |
| 21:28.33 | emcnabb | I just wanted to send it so I could get back to work :-) |
| 21:28.39 | Tene | heh |
| 21:30.18 | emcnabb | the message actually didn't rate too high with spamassassin |
| 21:30.21 | emcnabb | X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,PLING_PLING, |
| 21:30.21 | emcnabb | <PROTECTED> |
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| 21:48.15 | tensai | ~barbeque elg |
| 21:48.26 | tensai | ~toast elg |
| 21:48.28 | ibot | ACTION stakes tensai out in the desert sun to dry |
| 21:48.37 | tensai | ibot: traitor! |
| 21:49.58 | tensai | ~toast elg |
| 21:49.59 | ibot | ACTION stakes elg out in the desert sun to dry |
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| 21:53.16 | mrpull- | whoa. sony keeps shooting themselves in the foot with their DRM. |
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| 21:53.21 | mrpull- | anybody see the latest? |
| 21:54.30 | ScytheBlade1 | yup |
| 21:57.55 | elg | nope |
| 21:58.36 | mrpull- | the cure is worse than the disease: http://www.freedom-to-tinker.com/?p=926 |
| 21:58.37 | brac | [Freedom to Tinker » Blog Archive » Don’t Use Sony’s Web-based XCP Uninstaller] |
| 21:59.53 | jebar | elg: ping |
| 21:59.59 | elg | pong |
| 22:00.28 | jebar | can you get to sametime? |
| 22:00.49 | elg | it'll take a few minutes |
| 22:01.13 | jebar | thx |
| 22:05.09 | Hhhhhh | hmm, |
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| 22:07.46 | Hhhhh | I have an old Yamaha XG PCI sound card, an old 3Com PCI ethernet card, an old Diamond PCI videocard with an S3 Trio64 GPU (1Mb VRAM) and a bunch of 16Mb RAM sticks |
| 22:08.28 | mrpull- | Hhhhh: use them to decorate your christmas tree |
| 22:08.34 | Hhhhh | You give me whatever, even a handshake and a "thanks" would suffice |
| 22:08.40 | Hhhhh | and you can have them |
| 22:09.18 | Hhhhh | well, mrpull-, there are people who have a P1 200Mhz 32Mb as their desktop |
| 22:09.29 | Hhhhh | so this might help spice up some old machine |
| 22:10.14 | mrpull- | Tell those people I have a 1GHz P3 in my basement they can have :) |
| 22:10.39 | Bradipo | mrpull-: What's wrong with it? |
| 22:10.51 | Hhhhh | mrpull-, hey, I would like that |
| 22:10.54 | elg | maybe he's one of those 5-mp3 player people |
| 22:10.58 | Hhhhh | I'm actually trying to get a machine for my mom |
| 22:11.12 | mrpull- | elg: just one (a slightly scratch nano) |
| 22:11.26 | elg | :) |
| 22:11.27 | mrpull- | nothing is wrong with it |
| 22:11.36 | Hhhhh | mrpull-, can I have it ;) |
| 22:11.44 | Hhhhh | it's for someone who doesn't have a comp |
| 22:11.50 | Hhhhh | and needs one |
| 22:12.04 | mrpull- | Hhhhh: you come to the Plug meetings? |
| 22:12.11 | Hhhhh | not for a while |
| 22:12.26 | Hhhhh | well, i'm not a member of plug actually, I used to attend uug |
| 22:13.18 | Hhhhh | i'm recycling computers, I just gave a P1 200Mhz to my little sister |
| 22:14.03 | Hhhhh | I'm trying to fix a spare machine I had for my mom but it's having problems |
| 22:14.11 | Hhhhh | hardware freezes |
| 22:14.14 | levi | Speaking of which, I'm trying to sell my eMac, if anyone wants a Mac. |
| 22:15.43 | Hhhhh | so, mrpull-, can I have that machine? |
| 22:20.10 | sjansen | Jayce^ is the only Plug member. The rest of us just show up for meetings or fire off random emails. |
| 22:21.15 | Hhhhh | Jeff Waugh cancelled? |
| 22:21.23 | Hhhhh | darn it |
| 22:22.21 | mrpull- | Hhhhh: I was waiting for the Plug BBQ swap meet / give away |
| 22:22.58 | mrpull- | Hhhhh: I'll see what I can scrap together. I think it at least has CPU/RAM/HDD/Case/power... maybe no optical drive |
| 22:23.50 | Hhhhh | mrpull-, all I can say is, if I take that computer, it's not going to be another test/toy computer but I'd be giving it to someone who wants to use it |
| 22:25.35 | mrpull- | Hhhhh: hit me up around the next plug meeting for a hand off. |
| 22:25.44 | Hhhhh | all right |
| 22:25.57 | Hhhhh | mrpull-, what's your name? |
| 22:26.00 | elg | just walk up to him and say Hhhhhello |
| 22:26.07 | RyanE | Hhhhh: if that falls through, I also would have a home for it. |
| 22:26.20 | Hhhhh | elg, lol |
| 22:26.21 | mrpull- | Jake |
| 22:26.34 | RyanE | I swear my wife's aunt's machine is a 486. :) |
| 22:26.35 | Hhhhh | k, I'll ask you on the next PLUG meeting |
| 22:27.18 | lars-ut | Is Jeff Waugh ok? |
| 22:27.40 | lars-ut | physically. |
| 22:28.30 | RyanE | I don't think he was assulted, just robbed. |
| 22:30.11 | lars-ut | thx |
| 22:30.35 | RyanE | My bag was stolen from the hotel restaurant on the last day of the conference, which has made my 3BT adventure that much more interesting. Luckily, it didn't have my passport in it, but I did lose my camera, laptop, phone/pda, wallet and infamous green paper notebook. |
| 22:30.45 | RyanE | (in quotes). :) http://www.gnome.org/~jdub/blog/ |
| 22:31.46 | Hhhhh | that sucks |
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| 23:02.29 | mrpull- | whoa. 3 guys stole $12000 in ipods from a store in orem? |
| 23:02.44 | Bradipo | Really? |
| 23:02.50 | Bradipo | You have a link to the article? |
| 23:03.42 | mrpull- | http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=128936 |
| 23:03.43 | brac | [ksl.com - Utah's Online Source for Local News & Information Bail Set for 3 Men Held in Theft of iPods] |
| 23:03.51 | mrpull- | most were returned |
| 23:04.55 | Bradipo | Interesting that they printed it as 37-thousand. |
| 23:05.02 | Bradipo | Instead of $37,000 |
| 23:06.25 | Bradipo | I wonder if they get more money for more characters or something.... |
| 23:06.43 | Bradipo | 37-thousand, 25-thousand and 12-thousand. |
| 23:13.55 | jebar | elg: thx |
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| 23:15.49 | Newsome | they do it that way when they're transcribing what was said on-the-air |
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| 23:59.54 | goozbach | elderteddy.com -- sounds kinky |