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02:50.32xbmodder_hey
02:50.59xbmodder_does anyone know of any linear mechanism which moves at 100 in/sec
02:52.15xbmodder_like a linear servo?
03:03.02hansheh: During the Bubble, a lot of people predicted that startups would outsource their development to India. I think a better model for the future is David Heinemeier Hansson, who outsourced his development to a more powerful language instead.
03:03.07hans(paul graham)
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03:26.50TheDiff|pshyeahanyone around?
03:27.01fishyfirekinda
03:27.06TheDiff|pshyeahhaha
03:27.10TheDiff|pshyeahi have a C question
03:27.14maquisTheDiff|pshyeah: howdy
03:27.19TheDiff|pshyeahhey
03:27.20maquisTheDiff|pshyeah: an easy C question?
03:27.25TheDiff|pshyeahhopefully
03:27.30TheDiff|pshyeahif you read data into a buffer
03:27.33TheDiff|pshyeahthat is smaller than the buffer
03:27.41TheDiff|pshyeahand you use sizeof() on the buffer
03:27.42maquisok
03:27.48TheDiff|pshyeahwill it tell you the amount of data in the buffer
03:27.54maquisdoubt it
03:27.56TheDiff|pshyeahor the amount of space that was allocated to the buffer
03:28.06maquisit'll give you the space allocated to the buffer, i believe
03:28.25maquishowever, you could use strlen (assuming the data is null-terminated)
03:28.39TheDiff|pshyeahyeah, its not guaranteed to be null terminated
03:28.40maquisyou might have to cast the buffer as a char* to do it, but that should give you the number of bytes
03:28.55maquisTheDiff|pshyeah: memset to 0 before reading in?
03:29.12TheDiff|pshyeahyeah, but if the data ends in zeros for some reason
03:29.14maquisand set the buffer as one byte larger than the max input you're willing to work with
03:29.37maquiszeros as in \0 as opposed to '0'...
03:29.39TheDiff|pshyeahhmm, i guess i should just use the output of recvfrom
03:30.12maquisTheDiff|pshyeah: actually most input functions will give you the amount of tada read in
03:30.14TheDiff|pshyeahstupid functions and their only one return value
03:30.15maquisdata
03:30.17maquiswow...
03:30.20maquiser
03:30.42TheDiff|pshyeahyeah, but i'm trying to put this into a function
03:31.03TheDiff|pshyeahbut the plan was for the function to return something else
03:31.05maquisTheDiff|pshyeah: you're trying to put what into a function?
03:31.10maquisoh...
03:31.22TheDiff|pshyeahi guess i'll just have to pass it a pointer to an in
03:31.22TheDiff|pshyeaht
03:31.23maquisis there any byte that is invalid?
03:31.24TheDiff|pshyeahor something
03:31.32TheDiff|pshyeahnot that i know of
03:31.35maquishmmm
03:31.39maquisthat makes things difficult
03:31.42TheDiff|pshyeahyeah
03:31.50maquisunless you know how much you'll be reading in to start with
03:31.50TheDiff|pshyeahoh well, i'm just trying to be lazy
03:31.55fishyfiremaquis: did you ever get your printer working right?
03:32.09TheDiff|pshyeahprinters + linux = sucks
03:32.14maquisfishyfire: nope
03:32.27maquisTheDiff|pshyeah: especially when you have my karma
03:32.34fishyfirebummer...
03:32.42fishyfiremy printer and linux seem to get alone fine
03:32.48fishyfirealong
03:33.01fishyfiresorry... not much sleep last night
03:33.13TheDiff|pshyeahi've had bad luck with printers and linux
03:33.21maquisfishyfire: most peoples' do better than mine... mine's just stupid
03:33.51fishyfireso is it the printer or the computer that is having the issues?
03:34.07maquisfishyfire: i think it's probably user error
03:42.57hanstensai: ping
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04:26.46tensaihans: pong
04:56.09maquishas anyone ever seen a time where you're booting in, and before you get to the vendor splash screen (gateway or whatever), you get a number of copies of an odd sequence scattered randomly across the screen?
04:56.26RyanEodd sequence of numbers?
04:56.32RyanEodd sequence of random characters?
04:56.46maquisthe sequence is <flashing 'n'><smilie face (but not ":)")><french 'c' with the tail>
04:57.07maquisthe flashing n is flashing between white and blue with a blue background
04:57.16maquisand the other two characters are red with black backgrounds
04:57.39maquis(except the smilie is kinda the negative of that... it's like a red oval with black eyes and mouth)
04:57.43RyanEdoes it boot after the odd characters?
04:57.48RyanEis this a laptop or a desktop?
04:57.49maquisno...
04:57.51maquisit's just sitting there
04:57.57maquisit's an old PII desktop
04:58.13maquisi tried to take a picture, but i couldn't get anything clear
04:58.23RyanEI'd power down, reseat the RAM and press on the BIOS chips, then try again.
04:58.36maquiswell... here's a bit more details that i'm in the process of getting to
04:58.41RyanEand if it boots, run memtest86.
04:58.46maquisit went to the splash screen and to the bios fine to begin with
04:58.51maquisand i didn't change *anything*
04:59.02RyanEyeah, they *always* say that.  :)
04:59.07maquisbut since it doesn't have an OS, i stuck in a ubuntu livecd to boot
04:59.17maquisso that i can get some more info about the system...
04:59.32maquis(it was donated for a service project that someone's doing, and i'm helping out)
04:59.43RyanEok, so you booted ubuntu, and what happened?
04:59.50maquiswell... i stuck the cd in and rebooted
04:59.56maquisand it went straight to this screen
04:59.58maquisand it's been there since
05:00.08RyanEand if you remove the CD and reboot, does it still have the problem?
05:00.14maquisi can try that...
05:00.19RyanEknown good ubuntu boot CD?
05:00.55RyanEof course, it should still show the manufacturers boot page first, obviously, so that's not probably the problem.
05:03.04maquisnow the computer's just claiming not to see any signal
05:03.12maquisit's not getting *anywhere*
05:03.48RyanEi.e. the Monitor claims to not see signal.
05:03.59maquisRyanE: yeah
05:04.02maquissorry
05:04.03RyanEI'd reseat stuff like I said before, and then assume the power supply is hosed
05:04.44maquisok... i'll try to do that all
05:05.44hanstensai: I was trying to get anonymous sip calling working but didn't succeed. or I didn't succeed in figuring out how to test it
05:06.01tensaianonymous, eh?
05:06.04hanshave you done that? I was going to have you try to connect, but now it's bedtime
05:06.17tensaibedtime, eh?
05:06.18hanswell, unauthenticated is the better word I guess
05:06.20RyanEhans: why anonymous?
05:06.21RyanEaha
05:06.28hansguest
05:06.44hansyeah, el nino gets us up at 6 every morning, and in between
05:07.15tensaiI've never set it up
05:08.05RyanEhans: I read that 'El Nin~o'.  I was wondering how that would wake you up each morning.  :)
05:09.05hansyeah, el niƱo
05:09.36hanshttp://flickr.com/photos/fugalh
05:09.55RyanEonce again, my non-Unicode fonts betray me.  :)
05:10.26RyanEvery cute.
05:10.48RyanEhere's mine: http://paige.ericksonfamily.com/
05:40.43tensaithe weekend news anchor hits on the weather chick every night
05:40.48tensaiit's hilarious
05:41.14RyanEtensai: some movie?
05:41.30tensaino, the local news
05:41.49tensaihe really hits on her on the air
05:42.33fishyfirewhat station?
05:42.44tensaichannel 8 in idaho falls
06:29.35RyanEhave you done du in /var/lib?
06:29.46RyanEoops!  irssi paste again... :)
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07:15.15maquis~lart stupidity
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15:39.29goozbachhowdy from spain
15:43.03tensaisay hi to queen isabella
15:44.05goozbachwill do
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17:44.39mheath*sigh*
17:44.46mheathYou know what my weekends use to be like?
17:45.07mheath*sit at home and relax* -> *go to sleep for a long time* -> *sit at home and relax*
17:45.13mheathwant to know what they are like now?
17:45.54mheath*Work a double shift -> *Go to sleep, and dream about work* -> *wake up* -> *Work a double shift*
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19:45.54maquisgoozbach: hola! como ethtath?
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20:50.53xbmodderhttp://digg.com/software/Circe_-_A_new_Python_IRC_client < digg please
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