| 00:06.15 | hans | o/~ man you should have seen us on the way to venus |
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| 00:30.10 | Newsome | ~lart "singers" who screw up the National Anthem |
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| 00:36.16 | goozbach | Newsome: my sentiments exactly |
| 00:36.26 | goozbach | hopefully this game won't take all night |
| 00:37.28 | Newsome | no doubt. Last night took forever |
| 00:38.56 | Newsome | This had better not last into extra games. I'm too sick of the commercials. |
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| 00:39.46 | hans | many a small town is proud of their local national-anthem screwer-upper |
| 00:40.53 | goozbach | hans: but a professional singer? |
| 00:41.12 | Newsome | Sad thing is that I know that John Secada can sing, when he chooses to. |
| 00:42.52 | hans | are you implying professional singers are better than their small-town counterparts? |
| 00:43.58 | Newsome | I'm implying that people who jazz up The National Anthem should be shot for Treason. |
| 00:48.49 | Goshen | Newsome: sounds good to me :) |
| 00:48.58 | Goshen | Newsome: or at least strung up by their toes |
| 00:52.01 | hans | is there a non-vaporware musicbrainz-based tagger for linux or os x? (I know about ieatbrainz but it doesn't do ogg) |
| 00:54.41 | goozbach | hans: amarok |
| 00:54.49 | goozbach | but it's a bit more than a tagger |
| 00:54.55 | goozbach | and it's kde |
| 00:58.13 | hans | and it's installed, but I didn't see any tagging functionality |
| 00:58.19 | hans | what's the secret incantation? |
| 00:59.51 | goozbach | hmm I'm unaware of 'bulk' tagging but I've been tagging as I listen |
| 01:01.14 | goozbach | right click on the song in the playlist, then edit song info |
| 01:01.23 | goozbach | there's a musicbrainz buttun |
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| 01:05.52 | levi-treo | Yo. |
| 01:05.58 | goozbach | yu |
| 01:07.45 | levi-treo | maquis: ping |
| 01:11.08 | levi-treo | wassup? Slow night here? |
| 01:11.22 | goozbach | watching baseball |
| 01:12.20 | levi-treo | blah. |
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| 01:13.06 | Hhhhh | hello |
| 01:14.58 | emcnabb | also watching baseball... |
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| 01:28.27 | mheath | Wow, that was sad |
| 01:28.35 | mheath | I was playing the Half-Life 2 demo |
| 01:29.42 | mheath | My initial reaction: It has a pathetically weak story line (granted, it probably didn't get exposed much in the few bits the demo lets you play), and focuses too much on realism rather than interesting gameplay |
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| 01:34.27 | mrpull- | mheath: yeah... that gravity gun is _way_ too real |
| 01:39.43 | goozbach | and the aliens |
| 01:39.54 | Tene | http://allalone.org/pics/teneshot2.png |
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| 01:43.12 | mheath | Tene: I didn't know you were Enlightened! :) |
| 01:43.36 | mrpull- | dang. what res is that? |
| 01:43.58 | Tene | don't remember |
| 01:44.16 | mrpull- | singlehead? |
| 01:44.26 | usynic | wait... I wanna see - post the url again? |
| 01:45.13 | mrpull- | ahh... looks link 2560x1024 |
| 01:45.17 | mrpull- | same as I run at work |
| 01:45.21 | Tene | dual-head |
| 01:45.29 | Tene | http://allalone.org/pics/teneshot2.png |
| 02:08.34 | Tene | and now http://allalone.org/pics/teneshot3.png |
| 02:14.08 | ScytheBlade1 | mmm, dual monitor goodness |
| 02:14.22 | Tene | muchly good |
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| 02:38.28 | xbmodder_Circe | hey guys |
| 02:38.32 | xbmodder_Circe | say something |
| 02:38.33 | xbmodder_Circe | anything |
| 02:39.36 | *** kick/#utah [xbmodder_Circe!n=goozbach@207.108.175.219] by goozbach (something :)) |
| 02:41.05 | Tene | ~goozbach++ |
| 02:43.55 | goozbach | hmm |
| 02:44.03 | goozbach | guess he can't take a joke |
| 02:44.12 | goozbach | I thought for sure he'd be back |
| 02:44.25 | goozbach | someone better score. |
| 02:44.46 | goozbach | 6 innings and buttkis |
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| 02:54.44 | goozbach | if chi doesn't score here I'm going to bed. |
| 02:56.16 | hans | goozbach: shouldn't you be writing a program or something? |
| 02:56.25 | hans | or a lesson plan? stop playing around |
| 02:56.44 | hans | ~slave goozbach |
| 02:56.53 | goozbach | and to bed with me |
| 02:57.05 | JoshH | bed at 9pm? |
| 02:57.18 | goozbach | 11 |
| 02:57.25 | goozbach | I'm in MD |
| 02:57.25 | JoshH | ah |
| 02:57.38 | JoshH | well 11 is early when youre not in utah |
| 02:58.17 | mrpull- | goozbach: what is the score? |
| 02:58.29 | goozbach | 0-0 |
| 02:58.32 | goozbach | mid 7 |
| 02:58.41 | mrpull- | isn't that the time to watch? |
| 02:59.02 | goozbach | yeah, but I'm super-tired and have class bright and early |
| 02:59.44 | mrpull- | traveling kills me |
| 03:00.00 | mrpull- | i went to bed at 9PM the other night |
| 03:00.11 | goozbach | stupid mysql |
| 03:01.06 | tensai | apprently when pinging ipv6 link-local addresses you *have* to specify the interface |
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| 03:11.06 | levi-treo | Yo. |
| 03:11.18 | hans | nothing to see here. goozbach's gone to bed. |
| 03:11.24 | levi-treo | Intermission time at the theater. |
| 03:11.32 | levi-treo | Heh. |
| 03:11.37 | mrpull- | whoa CHI did score? |
| 03:11.45 | levi-treo | maquis around? |
| 03:11.50 | hans | whacha waching? |
| 03:12.06 | maquis | levi-treo: pong |
| 03:12.19 | maquis | levi-treo: sup? |
| 03:12.28 | levi-treo | hans: Little Women, the broadway show. |
| 03:12.38 | mrpull- | DOH... that was the series score... not the game score |
| 03:13.22 | maquis | levi-treo: why were you looking for me? |
| 03:13.23 | levi-treo | maquis: Dan asked for some help w/it too... I was wondering what it's about. |
| 03:13.42 | maquis | glad to know i'm not the only one lost |
| 03:13.53 | maquis | something about adding call-by-reference to ELL |
| 03:14.09 | levi-treo | Ahhh. |
| 03:14.15 | levi-treo | Fun. :) |
| 03:14.20 | maquis | ont really |
| 03:14.34 | maquis | i did what the prof said to do... but i'm stuck and i'm not understanding what i'm trying to do |
| 03:14.56 | levi-treo | Intermission's over, I'll get online later. |
| 03:17.00 | mheath | Hahaha |
| 03:17.35 | mheath | "Posted by _____ on November 28, 19101 at 17:35:54" |
| 03:17.50 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 03:17.53 | ScytheBlade1 | nice |
| 03:19.22 | mheath | We only have 17096 years until that message is posted. |
| 03:19.56 | ScytheBlade1 | So, as I maintain my school website (with two others, but that's irrelevant here) |
| 03:20.03 | ScytheBlade1 | I get to check the "news requests" box every so often |
| 03:20.08 | ScytheBlade1 | quote: "GAYS NEED TO BE SHOT! AND ALL THE PPL THAT CARE ABOUT THEM NEED TO BE SHOT AS WELL!" |
| 03:20.15 | ScytheBlade1 | ....how do you respond to that? |
| 03:20.26 | Newsome | do you _have_ to respond? |
| 03:20.39 | ScytheBlade1 | No, but I'd like to, as I have legit access to webmaster@ :) |
| 03:20.58 | ScytheBlade1 | ("box" = database, I have an e-mail on file) |
| 03:21.24 | mheath | "You are the reason hate crime legislation is necessary. Have a nice stay in hell." ? :) |
| 03:21.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Background to this: A "Gay-Straight Alliance Club" was recently started in my school, and due to law, the myriad of assults it gets can't take it down |
| 03:22.19 | ScytheBlade1 | Granted, the posters were soon taken down after they were, uh, abused |
| 03:22.35 | ScytheBlade1 | But it's there none the less and just kinda whoring attention |
| 03:23.05 | mheath | ScytheBlade1: Just as a warning..... |
| 03:23.11 | mheath | Remember that this is #utah |
| 03:23.22 | ScytheBlade1 | I know |
| 03:23.27 | ScytheBlade1 | and my school is in #utah ;) |
| 03:23.39 | mheath | And there is a wide variety of thoughts related to that sexual persuasion in Utah |
| 03:23.43 | mheath | mostly negative ones |
| 03:23.51 | ScytheBlade1 | It's true |
| 03:24.03 | Newsome | respond and say that it's not "news", but they should resubmit as a letter to the editor in the school's newspaper |
| 03:24.03 | mheath | discussion such a matter is likely to create somewhat of a flamewar :) |
| 03:24.13 | ScytheBlade1 | It's no discussion |
| 03:24.24 | ScytheBlade1 | It's a "news request" that happens to merit a reply from webmaster@ :) |
| 03:24.34 | ScytheBlade1 | Will it be posted? Oh dear no |
| 03:24.47 | ScytheBlade1 | but good idea @ Newsome, I'll add that |
| 03:25.20 | maquis | ScytheBlade1: personally, rather than replying to that, i would just forward the comment (along with any information that could trace it back to potser) to the administration... |
| 03:25.36 | goozbach | a discussion of such a topic isn't unwelcome, the flamewar and namecalling and troling that it almost always leads to is |
| 03:25.36 | ScytheBlade1 | I've got an e-mail, time, and IP |
| 03:25.42 | ScytheBlade1 | no name :/ |
| 03:25.48 | Newsome | news is not be a political statement like that |
| 03:26.09 | mheath | goozbach: I know. I was just warining of said flamewar, etc. :) |
| 03:26.23 | mheath | Newsome: and a childish political statement at that. |
| 03:26.24 | ScytheBlade1 | That aside, maquis, what mheath said....it IS Utah... the administration has had countless parents call in already. A 90% anonymous comment would just be wasted time |
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| 03:26.44 | Newsome | mheath: true |
| 03:26.51 | goozbach | meh in my opinion delete and forget |
| 03:27.00 | maquis | ScytheBlade1: perhaps, but that type of comment shouldn't be made regardless |
| 03:27.05 | maquis | that's hate speech |
| 03:27.13 | goozbach | what beneifit does said comment serve? |
| 03:27.22 | maquis | at my high school, a comment like that would get you expelled immediately |
| 03:27.24 | ScytheBlade1 | Satisfy the requester |
| 03:27.51 | ScytheBlade1 | maquis, true, there is most certaintly some, uh, legal issues behind even saying that |
| 03:27.54 | goozbach | how does said comment further logical, sane discussion of the subject matter? |
| 03:28.10 | ScytheBlade1 | goozbach, it doesn't, it's just there to satisfy the poster's ego |
| 03:28.21 | ScytheBlade1 | Who, and do remember this, is a public high school student |
| 03:28.22 | maquis | (and the expulsion would be kindness.... the other students would likely've caused serious physical harm to someone for saying that) |
| 03:29.39 | ScytheBlade1 | Hmm |
| 03:30.20 | ScytheBlade1 | Maybe a simple "be glad that I'm not the administration, and that you're not being sued for stating such a thing and likewise requesting it being posted as news on the district-approved website like you just did." |
| 03:30.21 | hans | this is annoying. why does xfce over nx not let me click buttons on the panel unless I hold down ctrl? |
| 03:30.26 | maquis | but honestly, there is no excusing a comment like that... from a student or a parent |
| 03:31.03 | ScytheBlade1 | maquis, again, high school. public high school. Is there no excuse? No, however, it's really the norm |
| 03:31.23 | ScytheBlade1 | They put up posters and I won't repeat what was written on them, heh |
| 03:32.44 | ScytheBlade1 | Our current sophmore year, last year in their junior year, came within inches of rocking the VP's car over on it's side |
| 03:32.56 | ScytheBlade1 | the cameras got them and the school officer came out, and they all split |
| 03:33.09 | ScytheBlade1 | But.....whoo |
| 03:33.28 | ScytheBlade1 | err |
| 03:33.32 | Newsome | huh? |
| 03:33.40 | ScytheBlade1 | s/in their junior year/in their 9th grade year/ |
| 03:33.50 | maquis | ah... htat makes more sense |
| 03:33.55 | Newsome | makes a little more sense |
| 03:34.21 | ScytheBlade1 | That's the problem with my area |
| 03:34.23 | ScytheBlade1 | It's TOO nice |
| 03:34.30 | ScytheBlade1 | It's all of the kids with the millionair dads |
| 03:36.40 | ScytheBlade1 | There are some nice aspects to the school, and I really am highlighting the "lower" events and members, but if that comment was pushing it...heh |
| 03:36.46 | ScytheBlade1 | A large majority of the school wouldn't be there now |
| 03:41.15 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, I think the "you need to think twice and be glad that a student maintains the website, not a teacher or administrator" |
| 03:41.22 | ScytheBlade1 | -- response will work best |
| 03:42.04 | maquis | yeah |
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| 04:01.31 | emcnabb | White Sox win! White Sox win! |
| 04:01.49 | Newsome | yay |
| 04:02.21 | goozbach | now I can sleep |
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| 04:12.52 | maquis | they won? |
| 04:12.54 | maquis | yay? |
| 04:13.24 | Newsome | of course |
| 04:13.41 | Newsome | you don't agree? |
| 04:13.51 | maquis | Newsome: i don't follow sports :) |
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| 04:19.30 | xbmodder_lappy | should I invite my friend eliza here? |
| 04:23.31 | maquis | xbmodder_lappy: if by here you mean #utah, and by friend you mean another teenager, my suggestion would be no |
| 04:24.18 | mheath | maquis: whats your suggestion if by here he means somwhere far, far away, with no internet access, and by friend he means a male-teenager-eating beast? |
| 04:25.02 | maquis | mheath: if by here he means somewhere where i won't come in contact with the person, then i stop caring |
| 04:26.04 | xbmodder_lappy | maquis, do you know what eliza is? |
| 04:26.30 | maquis | xbmodder_lappy: yes |
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| 04:26.45 | maquis | it's an AI and also a name that people use |
| 04:26.46 | xbmodder_lappy | So can I bring it in... |
| 04:26.48 | xbmodder_lappy | yeah |
| 04:27.03 | xbmodder_lappy | AI that acts like the worlds most annoying psycologist |
| 04:27.23 | maquis | xbmodder_lappy: you just mentioned that your bot is annoying... and you want to bring her in |
| 04:27.39 | xbmodder_lappy | it |
| 04:27.56 | xbmodder_lappy | lol |
| 04:28.05 | xbmodder_lappy | just messing. How are you guys doing? |
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| 04:39.21 | tensai | ~seen hans |
| 04:39.25 | ibot | hans <n=fugalh@falcon.fugal.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #utah, 1h 9m 4s ago, saying: 'this is annoying. why does xfce over nx not let me click buttons on the panel unless I hold down ctrl?'. |
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| 04:44.38 | mheath | This entire training is going to set me back by about $500 |
| 04:44.55 | mheath | BDUs, ECWCS, Misc, Transporation gas money... |
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| 04:53.36 | levi | Good evening. |
| 04:54.18 | maquis | levi: how was the performance? |
| 04:54.22 | mheath | Good evening, levi. |
| 04:54.55 | levi | maquis: Most excellent. I highly recommend it, if it's in town again. |
| 04:55.49 | maquis | cool |
| 05:01.59 | xbmodder | aweseom |
| 05:08.11 | RyanE | anyone know a good perl / other scripting language script to monitor a web page for changes? |
| 05:11.45 | mrpull- | RyanE: you want to make sure it is always the same? Or find out when it is updated? |
| 05:12.00 | RyanE | I want notification on change |
| 05:13.45 | mrpull- | no RSS feed for the site? that almost disqualifies me visiting a site. |
| 05:14.01 | RyanE | not that I can find. |
| 05:14.39 | xbmodder | RyanE, I can write one with bash really quick. Is it a static page or a dynamic page? |
| 05:16.33 | RyanE | It's dynamic, otherwise it wouldn't change. :) The URL is static |
| 05:16.52 | xbmodder | RyanE, well I mean like is there a counter on it? |
| 05:16.58 | xbmodder | RyanE, can you give me the URL? |
| 05:17.00 | RyanE | not that I can see. |
| 05:17.01 | RyanE | sure. |
| 05:17.10 | mrpull- | RyanE: how frequently do you want to check? |
| 05:17.20 | RyanE | oh, once a day, maybe. |
| 05:17.31 | RyanE | mrpull-: http://www.lds.org/events/ |
| 05:17.32 | brac | [ |
| 05:17.32 | brac | |
| 05:17.34 | brac | Temple Square Events ] |
| 05:17.53 | RyanE | looking for an event to show up, and then for tickets to be available. |
| 05:17.59 | xbmodder | so a simple diff script? |
| 05:18.14 | RyanE | I think that would work. I didn't really want to write one, although I could probably do it quickly with curl |
| 05:18.37 | RyanE | probably just curl to a file, and some sort of hash on that output |
| 05:18.45 | RyanE | I'm *sure* I've had one before, but I don't know where it is. |
| 05:20.21 | mrpull- | is a webbased solution desirable? www.watchthatpage.com1201 |
| 05:21.12 | RyanE | dunno. I usually prefer something I can put in cron, and manage myself |
| 05:21.29 | RyanE | I think I can cobble something together myself, after our discussion. |
| 05:21.29 | mrpull- | grohol.com/downloads/webwatch |
| 05:21.37 | xbmodder | there not the same... |
| 05:22.10 | xbmodder | >>> b=urllib2.urlopen("http://www.lds.org/events/") |
| 05:22.10 | xbmodder | >>> md5.new(b.read()).hexdigest() |
| 05:22.10 | xbmodder | 'fc77dece595b2a30e63f4522c23803f2' |
| 05:22.10 | xbmodder | >>> c=urllib2.urlopen("http://www.lds.org/events/") |
| 05:22.10 | xbmodder | >>> md5.new(c.read()).hexdigest() |
| 05:22.11 | xbmodder | 'd1e75c1343b23ff9231afd0d81c48029' |
| 05:22.13 | xbmodder | >>> |
| 05:22.15 | mrpull- | ahhh... crap... that isn't what you are looking for, but may be good for inspiration |
| 05:22.17 | xbmodder | wtf? |
| 05:22.33 | xbmodder | RyanE, do you want it to e-mail you or something |
| 05:22.57 | RyanE | urlmon |
| 05:23.04 | RyanE | http://freshmeat.net/projects/urlmon/ |
| 05:23.06 | brac | [freshmeat.net: Project details for urlmon |
| 05:23.06 | brac | ] |
| 05:23.42 | RyanE | last_modified times, md5 checksums, and filtering out certain dynamic parts... looks like what I need. |
| 05:23.50 | xbmodder | sure. |
| 05:24.36 | xbmodder | http://www.lds.org/events/ |
| 05:24.37 | brac | [ |
| 05:24.37 | brac | |
| 05:24.39 | brac | Temple Square Events ] |
| 05:24.47 | xbmodder | whats wrong with brac ? |
| 05:24.57 | ScytheBlade1 | nothing |
| 05:24.57 | RyanE | I think there's probably bad chars in the title |
| 05:25.04 | ScytheBlade1 | that is what is in the page title |
| 05:25.31 | xbmodder | -translate de en ~lart ibot |
| 05:25.32 | brac | ~lart ibot |
| 05:26.31 | mrpull- | brac should probably filter newlines from the URL trick |
| 05:26.41 | xbmodder | http://xbmodder.us/tmp/test |
| 05:26.42 | brac | [ |
| 05:26.42 | brac | ~say -translate de en ~say http://xbmodder.us/tmp/test |
| 05:26.44 | ibot | -translate de en ~say http://xbmodder.us/tmp/test |
| 05:26.44 | brac | ] |
| 05:26.45 | brac | ~say http://xbmodder.us/tmp/test |
| 05:26.46 | ibot | http://xbmodder.us/tmp/test |
| 05:26.47 | brac | [ |
| 05:26.48 | brac | ] |
| 05:26.51 | xbmodder | oh crap. |
| 05:27.03 | xbmodder | I thought I got them in a lood! |
| 05:27.06 | xbmodder | loop! |
| 05:27.12 | xbmodder | *breaths* |
| 05:27.27 | RyanE | yeah, that could be interesting |
| 05:27.32 | RyanE | or bad... |
| 05:28.05 | xbmodder | ~say 1 |
| 05:28.06 | ibot | 1 |
| 05:28.06 | xbmodder | ~say 2 |
| 05:28.07 | ibot | 2 |
| 05:28.07 | xbmodder | ~say 3 |
| 05:28.10 | ibot | 3 |
| 05:28.11 | xbmodder | oh god |
| 05:28.17 | xbmodder | *must resist the urge* |
| 05:28.43 | RyanE | hehe |
| 05:29.22 | RyanE | so you write a cgi that changes the title to cause ibot to say a new URL... |
| 05:30.10 | xbmodder | http://xbmodder.us/pyportal/ibot.py |
| 05:30.11 | brac | [ |
| 05:30.11 | brac | ~say -translate de en ~say http://xbmodder.us/tmp/test?a=529 |
| 05:30.12 | ibot | -translate de en ~say http://xbmodder.us/tmp/test?a=529 |
| 05:30.12 | brac | ] |
| 05:30.14 | brac | ~say http://xbmodder.us/tmp/test?a=529 |
| 05:30.15 | ibot | http://xbmodder.us/tmp/test?a=529 |
| 05:30.16 | brac | [ |
| 05:30.16 | brac | ~say -translate de en ~say http://xbmodder.us/tmp/test |
| 05:30.17 | ibot | -translate de en ~say http://xbmodder.us/tmp/test |
| 05:30.17 | brac | ] |
| 05:30.18 | brac | ~say http://xbmodder.us/tmp/test |
| 05:30.19 | ibot | http://xbmodder.us/tmp/test |
| 05:30.20 | brac | [ |
| 05:30.22 | brac | ] |
| 05:30.23 | xbmodder | oh crap.... |
| 05:30.24 | RyanE | hehe |
| 05:30.31 | RyanE | just kill the cgi |
| 05:30.37 | RyanE | I guess it decided to stop |
| 05:30.39 | xbmodder | it fixed itself...... |
| 05:30.41 | RyanE | maybe it counts them |
| 05:30.49 | RyanE | you would need the title to have something random in it |
| 05:31.05 | RyanE | and be sure you can change it / break it |
| 05:31.13 | xbmodder | ~say hi |
| 05:31.14 | ibot | hi |
| 05:31.22 | maquis | ibot won't do the same thing again if it's less than 6 seconds |
| 05:31.23 | xbmodder | ~say test?a=21 |
| 05:31.25 | ibot | test?a=21 |
| 05:31.36 | RyanE | ~say test?a=1 |
| 05:31.37 | ibot | test?a=1 |
| 05:31.37 | RyanE | ~say test?a=2 |
| 05:31.38 | ibot | test?a=2 |
| 05:31.40 | RyanE | ~say test?a=3 |
| 05:31.42 | ibot | test?a=3 |
| 05:31.42 | xbmodder | maquis, yeah but why did it strip the ? |
| 05:32.00 | xbmodder | oh I see. |
| 05:32.46 | xbmodder | http://xbmodder.us/pyportal/ibot.py |
| 05:32.46 | brac | [ |
| 05:32.47 | brac | ~say http://xbmodder.us/tmp/test?a=177 |
| 05:32.48 | ibot | http://xbmodder.us/tmp/test?a=177 |
| 05:32.48 | brac | ] |
| 05:32.49 | brac | [ |
| 05:32.49 | brac | ~say -translate de en ~say http://xbmodder.us/tmp/test |
| 05:32.50 | ibot | -translate de en ~say http://xbmodder.us/tmp/test |
| 05:32.50 | brac | ] |
| 05:32.50 | brac | ~say http://xbmodder.us/tmp/test |
| 05:32.52 | ibot | http://xbmodder.us/tmp/test |
| 05:32.53 | brac | [ |
| 05:32.55 | brac | ] |
| 05:32.59 | RyanE | bzzzt |
| 05:33.00 | xbmodder | hmm. |
| 05:33.12 | xbmodder | wtf. brac caches urls |
| 05:33.47 | xbmodder | http://xbmodder.us/pyportal/ibot.py/lalal |
| 05:33.47 | brac | [ |
| 05:33.47 | brac | ~say http://xbmodder.us/tmp/test?a=35 |
| 05:33.49 | ibot | http://xbmodder.us/tmp/test?a=35 |
| 05:33.49 | brac | ] |
| 05:33.49 | brac | [ |
| 05:33.50 | brac | ~say -translate de en ~say http://xbmodder.us/tmp/test |
| 05:33.51 | ibot | -translate de en ~say http://xbmodder.us/tmp/test |
| 05:33.51 | brac | ] |
| 05:33.51 | brac | ~say http://xbmodder.us/tmp/test |
| 05:33.53 | ibot | http://xbmodder.us/tmp/test |
| 05:33.53 | brac | [ |
| 05:33.56 | brac | ] |
| 05:34.06 | xbmodder | where is the translate coming from brac? |
| 05:34.41 | findlay | trying to get our bots into a loop? |
| 05:34.49 | xbmodder | http://xbmodder.us/pyportal/ibot.py1/lalal |
| 05:34.54 | xbmodder | http://xbmodder.us/pyportal/ibot1.py/lalal |
| 05:34.54 | brac | [ |
| 05:34.55 | brac | ~say http://xbmodder.us/pyportal/ibot1.py?a=444/lalala |
| 05:34.56 | ibot | http://xbmodder.us/pyportal/ibot1.py?a=444/lalala |
| 05:34.56 | brac | ] |
| 05:34.57 | brac | [ |
| 05:34.57 | brac | ~say http://xbmodder.us/pyportal/ibot1.py?a=715/lalala |
| 05:34.59 | ibot | http://xbmodder.us/pyportal/ibot1.py?a=715/lalala |
| 05:34.59 | brac | ] |
| 05:34.59 | xbmodder | this should work. |
| 05:35.00 | brac | [ |
| 05:35.01 | brac | ~say http://xbmodder.us/pyportal/ibot1.py?a=170/lalala |
| 05:35.02 | ibot | http://xbmodder.us/pyportal/ibot1.py?a=170/lalala |
| 05:35.02 | brac | ] |
| 05:35.03 | brac | [ |
| 05:35.03 | xbmodder | yay! |
| 05:35.05 | brac | ~say http://xbmodder.us/pyportal/ibot1.py?a=466/lalala |
| 05:35.06 | ibot | http://xbmodder.us/pyportal/ibot1.py?a=466/lalala |
| 05:35.07 | brac | ] |
| 05:35.09 | brac | [ |
| 05:35.11 | brac | ~say http://xbmodder.us/pyportal/ibot1.py?a=650/lalala |
| 05:35.12 | ibot | http://xbmodder.us/pyportal/ibot1.py?a=650/lalala |
| 05:35.13 | brac | ] |
| 05:35.15 | brac | [ |
| 05:35.17 | brac | ~say http://xbmodder.us/pyportal/ibot1.py?a=866/lalala |
| 05:35.18 | ibot | http://xbmodder.us/pyportal/ibot1.py?a=866/lalala |
| 05:35.19 | brac | ] |
| 05:35.19 | xbmodder | wtf |
| 05:35.21 | brac | [ |
| 05:35.23 | brac | ~say http://xbmodder.us/pyportal/ibot1.py?a=171/lalala |
| 05:35.25 | ibot | http://xbmodder.us/pyportal/ibot1.py?a=171/lalala |
| 05:35.25 | xbmodder | stoppped. |
| 05:35.25 | brac | ] |
| 05:35.31 | xbmodder | uhh uh0oh. |
| 05:37.18 | xbmodder | I made it bettea. |
| 05:37.44 | xbmodder | http://xbmodder.us/pyportal/ibot1.py/lalal |
| 05:37.45 | brac | [ |
| 05:37.45 | brac | ~say http://xbmodder.us/pyportal/ibot2.py?a=71224907133/lalala777410100 |
| 05:37.46 | ibot | http://xbmodder.us/pyportal/ibot2.py?a=71224907133/lalala777410100 |
| 05:37.46 | brac | ] |
| 05:37.47 | brac | [ |
| 05:37.47 | brac | ~say http://xbmodder.us/pyportal/ibot1.py?a=73122157996/lalala284638581 |
| 05:37.49 | ibot | http://xbmodder.us/pyportal/ibot1.py?a=73122157996/lalala284638581 |
| 05:37.49 | brac | ] |
| 05:37.49 | xbmodder | lets do this! |
| 05:37.49 | brac | [ |
| 05:37.50 | brac | ~say http://xbmodder.us/pyportal/ibot2.py?a=20392503697/lalala161593640 |
| 05:37.51 | ibot | http://xbmodder.us/pyportal/ibot2.py?a=20392503697/lalala161593640 |
| 05:37.52 | brac | ] |
| 05:37.54 | brac | [ |
| 05:37.55 | xbmodder | wow... |
| 05:37.56 | brac | ~say http://xbmodder.us/pyportal/ibot1.py?a=34983631564/lalala8167166 |
| 05:37.57 | ibot | http://xbmodder.us/pyportal/ibot1.py?a=34983631564/lalala8167166 |
| 05:37.58 | brac | ] |
| 05:38.00 | brac | [ |
| 05:38.02 | brac | ~say http://xbmodder.us/pyportal/ibot2.py?a=53005074314/lalala287975364 |
| 05:38.03 | ibot | http://xbmodder.us/pyportal/ibot2.py?a=53005074314/lalala287975364 |
| 05:38.03 | xbmodder | I have made a monster. |
| 05:38.04 | brac | ] |
| 05:38.06 | brac | [ |
| 05:38.08 | brac | ~say http://xbmodder.us/pyportal/ibot1.py?a=83213397913/lalala916789617 |
| 05:38.09 | ibot | http://xbmodder.us/pyportal/ibot1.py?a=83213397913/lalala916789617 |
| 05:38.09 | xbmodder | is there a URL groper? |
| 05:38.10 | brac | ] |
| 05:38.12 | brac | [ |
| 05:38.13 | *** mode/#utah [+o maquis] by ChanServ |
| 05:38.14 | brac | ~say http://xbmodder.us/pyportal/ibot2.py?a=53333892778/lalala811798529 |
| 05:38.15 | ibot | http://xbmodder.us/pyportal/ibot2.py?a=53333892778/lalala811798529 |
| 05:38.16 | brac | ] |
| 05:38.17 | xbmodder | stopped |
| 05:40.40 | xbmodder | Whenever your pissed off at ibot type "http://xbmodder.us/pyportal/ibot2.py?a=53333892778/lalala811798529" |
| 05:40.53 | xbmodder | (Don't worry the scripts are 000 right now) |
| 05:42.33 | RyanE | hehe |
| 05:42.36 | RyanE | yeah, that'll do it |
| 05:42.50 | RyanE | so you fooled brac by adding some directory-looking things? |
| 05:43.08 | RyanE | if I were brac's author, I would put a time limit on serving things from the same domain... :) |
| 05:43.15 | xbmodder | wanna see the code? |
| 05:43.20 | RyanE | s/things/titles/ |
| 05:43.27 | xbmodder | RyanE, I could fix that... |
| 05:43.50 | RyanE | you could put random1234.xbmodder.us, eh? |
| 05:43.59 | xbmodder | yeah |
| 05:44.12 | xbmodder | actually I had a more complex idea |
| 05:44.15 | RyanE | but if I were doing it, I'd ignore that part. |
| 05:44.19 | xbmodder | but that hides until brac is fixed. |
| 05:44.24 | RyanE | only look at the x.com or x.net, etc. |
| 05:44.29 | RyanE | or IP address |
| 05:44.41 | RyanE | gotta love wars of escalation |
| 05:44.52 | xbmodder | actually In theory this could make like a million threads. |
| 05:45.53 | RyanE | sure, but what would they then do? They'd still have to serve up something for brac to cause ibot to say, which would have to contain a URL, which would then be stopped |
| 05:46.02 | RyanE | (in theory) |
| 05:47.04 | *** join/#utah bzob_l (n=bzob_l@c-67-172-244-99.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) |
| 05:48.59 | xbmodder | I feel sorry for the person who executes ibot2 |
| 05:50.31 | xbmodder | RyanE, why'd you give me the idea? |
| 05:50.43 | RyanE | hehe |
| 05:51.22 | RyanE | can't help it. that hacker side of 'how does it work' runs deep. I used to take apart my parents phones as a kid. |
| 05:51.24 | xbmodder | once goozbach and maquis fall asleep. |
| 05:51.40 | xbmodder | RyanE, I just like screwing with Ibot |
| 05:51.52 | xbmodder | mainly cause I met him by crashing him |
| 05:51.58 | RyanE | i don't much play with the bots. |
| 05:52.10 | xbmodder | phones were my start too |
| 05:52.14 | xbmodder | then VCRs |
| 05:52.25 | RyanE | yep. Still fix 'em for friends / family when possible |
| 05:52.52 | RyanE | only fixed a couple of TV's. Not great with the analog side of things |
| 05:52.53 | xbmodder | modern VCRs are like ugly. |
| 05:53.13 | RyanE | and getting rare |
| 05:53.25 | xbmodder | TVs = not fun. |
| 05:53.34 | xbmodder | I was like wtf the second I opened it. |
| 05:53.38 | RyanE | hehe |
| 05:53.49 | RyanE | I got the SAMS docs on the one I was messing with from the SL Co library system. |
| 05:53.52 | RyanE | helped a bit |
| 05:54.29 | RyanE | still the TV we use in the bedroom. an '83 Sony Trinitron. Great picture for a TV that can only tune up to about channel 26. :( |
| 05:54.36 | xbmodder | lol. |
| 05:55.32 | maquis | xbmodder: you have to remember that goo and i both read backlogs when we get up in the morning |
| 05:55.32 | xbmodder | fun. |
| 05:55.34 | xbmodder | maquis, but if its on tor you wont know its me.. right? |
| 05:55.34 | RyanE | hey, no harm in feeding the bots, eh? |
| 05:55.34 | xbmodder | lol. |
| 05:55.35 | maquis | just be nice |
| 05:56.01 | RyanE | I gave up on reading the backlogs this past week when we went to Disneyland. No access for a couple of days. Too much backlog |
| 05:56.40 | maquis | i don't have trouble with a proof-of-concept attempt... but just be sure to turn them off before too long... |
| 05:56.40 | RyanE | I need a good way to put a bookmark into the IRC log. :) |
| 05:57.56 | maquis | xbmodder: honestly, the reason i grabbed op was that i wasn't certain you had a way ready to turn them off... |
| 05:58.47 | RyanE | eh, easy enough if you're just writing a script to return a title to just chmod it so the webserver won't serve it anymore. |
| 05:58.59 | RyanE | stops the loop dead in it's tracks. |
| 06:04.03 | Supaplex | next time I compile life, sleep will be optional |
| 06:04.25 | RyanE | It's already optional... for a while... |
| 06:04.41 | Supaplex | that's the problem ... |
| 06:05.07 | maquis | the only way i seem to be able to get my schedule to not have conflicts involves having chem at 8am every day |
| 06:05.20 | RyanE | I had a CS class that started at 7:30am |
| 06:05.31 | maquis | RyanE: cs is a bit better than chem |
| 06:05.32 | xbmodder | maquis, It wasn't working |
| 06:05.35 | RyanE | was the only time the teacher taught it. |
| 06:05.40 | xbmodder | maquis, I had turnoff code. |
| 06:05.48 | maquis | xbmodder: ??? |
| 06:05.50 | xbmodder | but it didn't work. |
| 06:05.58 | maquis | oh |
| 06:06.15 | maquis | i wasn't actually planning on kicking you, though... |
| 06:06.15 | maquis | that's generally what i was saying |
| 06:06.20 | xbmodder | I thought you were gunna +q ibot |
| 06:06.26 | xbmodder | and +b me |
| 06:06.32 | maquis | what's +q? |
| 06:07.12 | xbmodder | try it. |
| 06:07.14 | xbmodder | on me |
| 06:07.20 | maquis | how? |
| 06:07.31 | *** mode/#utah [+b %xbmodder!*@*] by maquis |
| 06:07.43 | *** mode/#utah [-b %xbmodder!*@*] by maquis |
| 06:07.46 | xbmodder | yeah |
| 06:07.57 | xbmodder | +b inherits +Q |
| 06:07.58 | maquis | ah |
| 06:08.00 | xbmodder | *+q |
| 06:08.37 | xbmodder | ~seen hans |
| 06:08.40 | ibot | hans <n=fugalh@falcon.fugal.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #utah, 2h 38m 19s ago, saying: 'this is annoying. why does xfce over nx not let me click buttons on the panel unless I hold down ctrl?'. |
| 06:11.35 | maquis | so, i have 2 classes i need to take |
| 06:11.43 | maquis | and they overlap |
| 06:18.19 | levi | G'night! |
| 06:18.24 | maquis | gnight levi |
| 06:18.55 | RyanE | overlap by how much? |
| 06:19.11 | RyanE | if it's not a lot, best would be to discuss with professors. |
| 06:19.16 | maquis | RyanE: they were overlapping by half an hour |
| 06:19.25 | RyanE | likely too much, as you know. :) |
| 06:19.28 | maquis | yeah |
| 06:19.39 | maquis | i'm going to move one of them off to spring... as much as i don't want to |
| 06:20.07 | RyanE | I liked taking classes spring / summer, mainly because I worked in the 142 lab, and could do homework while being paid to wait for students to raise their hands. :) |
| 06:20.26 | RyanE | of course, we didn't have internet in the lab back then, so no IRC. A few MUDs and MOOs, though. |
| 06:25.31 | maquis | bah |
| 06:26.21 | maquis | i don't want to push this class off to spring... i'm going to have CS then... |
| 06:27.10 | RyanE | what's the class? |
| 06:27.23 | maquis | stat 321 |
| 06:27.27 | RyanE | independent study? the 'true' push off'... |
| 06:27.41 | RyanE | 321 was a class that more than one classmate never finished... |
| 06:28.04 | maquis | A) don't want to pay for independent study, B) i don't know if i'm the type that would actually do the independent study... |
| 06:28.10 | RyanE | I know of at least 2 non-BYU-CS-grads because of that class... |
| 06:28.35 | maquis | RyanE: didn't finish because it was hard or didn't finish because.... |
| 06:28.43 | RyanE | I did 2 ind. study classes. ignored them the entire year, then finished one in 1 month, the other in the 3-month extension. |
| 06:28.56 | RyanE | failed / UWed / bailed the class every time they tried |
| 06:29.03 | maquis | ipes! |
| 06:29.10 | RyanE | when you don't get stats, and your other classes are more fun, you blow it off |
| 06:29.19 | maquis | that's why i don't want to take it summer |
| 06:29.25 | maquis | i *have* to graduate in august |
| 06:29.25 | RyanE | then you stop going, and you UW |
| 06:29.40 | RyanE | and the other class is not offered spring / summer? |
| 06:29.51 | maquis | i'll check and see... |
| 06:29.53 | maquis | it's cs460 |
| 06:30.08 | RyanE | I myself ended up with a C+ in 321, which made me quite happy. :) |
| 06:30.12 | RyanE | or maybe it was a C- |
| 06:30.13 | maquis | the thing is... i'm *really* looking forward to 460 |
| 06:30.15 | RyanE | whatever it was, it counted. |
| 06:30.21 | RyanE | 460 == networking? |
| 06:30.26 | maquis | yeah |
| 06:30.28 | RyanE | I took 460 and then 560 |
| 06:30.37 | RyanE | I also enjoyed |
| 06:30.57 | maquis | nope |
| 06:31.04 | maquis | 460's not offered spring/summer |
| 06:31.10 | RyanE | and you HAVE to take 460, not another elective? |
| 06:31.22 | maquis | well... i'm hoping to do security at amazon... |
| 06:31.26 | maquis | and i don't know much about networking |
| 06:31.29 | RyanE | right. |
| 06:31.30 | maquis | so...... |
| 06:31.33 | maquis | yeah |
| 06:31.49 | maquis | what's with this only offering things once in the day? |
| 06:31.49 | RyanE | well, if you have to graduate on time for the opportunity, I'd say drop 460 |
| 06:32.13 | RyanE | or discuss with the 460 instructor that you must leave early or arrive late, but that won't fly. |
| 06:32.19 | Hhhhh | maquis, I've heard 460 is a LOT of work, but I've heard it's worth it |
| 06:32.31 | maquis | i don't want to give up 460 |
| 06:32.48 | maquis | i'll try to negotiate with the two profs... |
| 06:32.54 | maquis | there's got to be some way to work around this |
| 06:32.54 | RyanE | good luck with that... hehe |
| 06:33.08 | Hhhhh | maquis, you know you can take stats 221 instead? |
| 06:33.10 | RyanE | is the stat 321 the lecture part or the lab part that conflicts? |
| 06:33.24 | maquis | Hhhhh: you sure about that? |
| 06:33.28 | maquis | RyanE: the lecture part |
| 06:33.32 | RyanE | at least when I took it, there was a lecture, and the lab, and the lab was way more important to understanding it. |
| 06:33.32 | Hhhhh | maquis, I did it and so a friend with me |
| 06:33.45 | maquis | i can arrange things for the lecture... |
| 06:33.47 | Hhhhh | 221 is freakin' easy |
| 06:33.50 | maquis | Hhhhh: i'll look into that |
| 06:33.51 | RyanE | yeah, a friend in the lecture part and an understanding prof would do it. |
| 06:33.58 | Hhhhh | and they offer it like 10 times during the day |
| 06:34.05 | Hhhhh | maquis, talk to Dr. Clements |
| 06:34.13 | maquis | Hhhhh: will do |
| 06:34.25 | Hhhhh | he can authorize you and then fix it in the system so it counts for 321 |
| 06:34.35 | RyanE | bah... back in MY DAY... I sure say that a lot these days. :) we were required to take 321, Physics 121 and 122 and Math 112 and 113... |
| 06:34.35 | Hhhhh | he did it for me a couple of years ago |
| 06:34.49 | Hhhhh | RyanE, we are still required |
| 06:34.57 | RyanE | but you can take Math 119, no? |
| 06:35.07 | Hhhhh | for CS? I don't think so |
| 06:35.22 | RyanE | I know that a year after I graduated, you could take an easier Math set, and Physics set |
| 06:35.28 | RyanE | but maybe they've toughened it back up |
| 06:35.35 | RyanE | if so, good on 'em. |
| 06:35.43 | Hhhhh | i'm pretty sure you can't because 112 and 113 are prerequisites to be admitted into the program |
| 06:35.48 | maquis | RyanE: physics 121, 220, math through 343 (including 112 and 113), etc... |
| 06:35.52 | Hhhhh | together with 142, 124 and 135 |
| 06:35.59 | maquis | 235 |
| 06:36.08 | Hhhhh | yea, 235 I meant |
| 06:36.08 | RyanE | what's 124? |
| 06:36.19 | Hhhhh | it's your old 143 |
| 06:36.20 | maquis | RyanE: did you take 123? |
| 06:36.22 | maquis | er |
| 06:36.22 | RyanE | it was 142, 143, 232 |
| 06:36.23 | RyanE | aha |
| 06:36.24 | maquis | yeah |
| 06:36.26 | maquis | 143 |
| 06:36.42 | maquis | they turned 143 into 124 and 224 |
| 06:36.49 | Hhhhh | I think the CS Dept. is requiring us to take too little math |
| 06:37.19 | Hhhhh | I'd say, do away with physics 220 and one science elective |
| 06:37.24 | Hhhhh | and make us take Math 302 and 303 |
| 06:37.31 | maquis | no kidding |
| 06:37.31 | RyanE | which are...? |
| 06:37.38 | maquis | physics 220 sucked |
| 06:37.49 | Hhhhh | it's a condensed version of 343, 334 and 214 |
| 06:37.59 | Hhhhh | only the stuff an engineer or a CS guy would need to know |
| 06:38.05 | RyanE | I thought 220 was hard, but I thought it was worth it. |
| 06:38.06 | Hhhhh | without the Math-required bloat |
| 06:38.36 | RyanE | would probably be good, I could've used more math, although I would've complained about it at the time. :) |
| 06:38.39 | Hhhhh | RyanE, I think vector calculus is a lot more relevant than electromagnetism to CS in most cases |
| 06:38.56 | RyanE | yeah, I don't use the right-hand rule much. |
| 06:39.09 | Hhhhh | i'm getting a math minor in order to be math-well-rounded enough for grad school |
| 06:39.34 | RyanE | I had Dr. Christensen asking me to stay for post-grad, but I turned him down. I'd had enough school for a while. |
| 06:40.26 | Hhhhh | i'm taking numerical analysis (CS major is severely crippled without this) and differential equations right now |
| 06:40.49 | Hhhhh | gosh, diff. eq. would have been useful as a pre-req for the new 312 |
| 06:41.09 | maquis | Hhhhh: from what i've heard, it would be useful... |
| 06:41.10 | Hhhhh | and i'm taking vector calculus next semester |
| 06:41.35 | Hhhhh | maquis, if I had taken 334 before 312, it would have been a ride in the park |
| 06:41.49 | Hhhhh | that's all I can say |
| 06:42.14 | maquis | Hhhhh: difference equations took me forever to pick up |
| 06:42.16 | RyanE | I procrastinated, and Math 113 was the last class I finished to graduate from BYU. |
| 06:42.25 | maquis | but once i figured them out, i actually enjoyed them |
| 06:42.34 | Hhhhh | you'd love Math 334 then |
| 06:43.02 | Hhhhh | it's not hard at all, you spend ~7 hrs with homework though |
| 06:43.14 | maquis | ipes! |
| 06:43.21 | maquis | i don't have the time to do that for one class |
| 06:43.36 | Hhhhh | oh, I'm sure you do much more than that with some CS classes |
| 06:43.42 | maquis | yes... |
| 06:43.48 | Hhhhh | I also meant 7hrs a week |
| 06:43.52 | maquis | that's why i don't have the time to do that for another class |
| 06:44.03 | Hhhhh | well, yea, I'm not taking CS right no |
| 06:44.06 | Hhhhh | now* |
| 06:44.10 | maquis | ah... |
| 06:44.16 | Hhhhh | I only have one CS class left, I'll take 450 |
| 06:44.20 | maquis | anyway, cs334 won't be happening |
| 06:44.32 | Hhhhh | oh, I meant Math 334 |
| 06:44.33 | maquis | just getting out of here in < 1 year |
| 06:44.36 | RyanE | Hhhhh: What is your post-grad going to be in, and where? |
| 06:44.40 | maquis | that's what i meant |
| 06:45.04 | Hhhhh | RyanE, I'm a senior, and I intend to get a PhD in CS in Computer Graphics |
| 06:45.12 | Hhhhh | somewhere in the East |
| 06:45.20 | RyanE | and you want to work in graphics then, or teach? |
| 06:45.24 | Hhhhh | hopefully U. of North Carolina |
| 06:45.35 | Hhhhh | hmm, some industry and then research/teach |
| 06:45.42 | RyanE | Tar Heels, eh? |
| 06:45.43 | Hhhhh | i'd love to work for nvidia |
| 06:45.46 | Hhhhh | yup |
| 06:45.57 | RyanE | had a couple of roommates that were from that locale |
| 06:46.12 | Hhhhh | my inlaws live like 2 hours east from UNC |
| 06:46.47 | RyanE | I've visited there once, going to Blue Cross Blue Shield NC. Lots of green, lots of rain the day I was there. |
| 06:46.51 | RyanE | cool. |
| 06:46.58 | RyanE | nice to know what you want to do. |
| 06:47.01 | Hhhhh | it's really pretty |
| 06:47.04 | Hhhhh | hehe, yea |
| 06:47.05 | RyanE | yep |
| 06:47.22 | Hhhhh | only major switch was from CpE to CS |
| 06:47.29 | RyanE | CpE? |
| 06:47.43 | RyanE | Customer Premises Equipment? :) |
| 06:47.47 | Hhhhh | but that's because in my country there is one major called Computer Engineering, which is pretty much CS and CpE combined together in a 6 year major |
| 06:47.55 | Hhhhh | CpE = Computer Engineering |
| 06:47.59 | RyanE | your country? which one is that? |
| 06:48.00 | Hhhhh | CE = Civil |
| 06:48.01 | Hhhhh | Chile |
| 06:48.07 | RyanE | aha. |
| 06:48.21 | RyanE | mui bueno. :) |
| 06:48.37 | Hhhhh | when I moved to the US, I had to choose between software and hardware, and CS 224 made me go for software |
| 06:48.56 | RyanE | CS 224 is build-a-Micro? |
| 06:48.57 | maquis | Hhhhh: i'm always surprised if cs224 makes someone go for hardware :) |
| 06:49.14 | findlay | isn't there a medium, like jello-ware? |
| 06:49.18 | RyanE | I took EE 220-something that was Build a Z80 micro. one of my favorites. |
| 06:49.23 | Hhhhh | RyanE, yes, only schematics and software simulations though |
| 06:49.31 | RyanE | firmware / FPGA is middle-jello-ware. |
| 06:49.37 | RyanE | ours you built it on a breadboard |
| 06:50.17 | RyanE | but it didn't make me want to switch to EE / Hardware. |
| 06:51.38 | Hhhhh | RyanE, there are some guys at nvidia who implement all the features of a videocard in C++ first for concept design and proof, and then that is handed to the engineers for the schematics and then the HW prototyping |
| 06:51.43 | Hhhhh | that's what I'd love to do |
| 06:51.51 | RyanE | the second half, or the first? |
| 06:51.57 | Hhhhh | oh, firstand I might have enough |
| 06:52.06 | Hhhhh | oh, first |
| 06:52.14 | RyanE | very cool. |
| 06:52.21 | Hhhhh | and I might have enough connections to land with a job like that *crosses fingers* |
| 06:52.21 | RyanE | not my thing, but still cool. |
| 06:52.57 | Hhhhh | also I might have enough connections to be admitted at MIT ;) |
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| 12:31.03 | goozbach | good morning |
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| 13:52.18 | maquis | mornin goo! |
| 13:53.32 | goozbach | morning |
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| 14:40.52 | tensai | elg: I think I'm ready to switch my craptiontec over to bridging. I've got my wrt all set and we figured out the router changes we have to make. |
| 14:41.12 | bonez41 | craptiontec...that's CLASSIC... |
| 14:41.27 | elg | cool. you know the setting on the actiontec right? |
| 14:41.48 | tensai | I think so |
| 14:42.29 | tensai | apparently we don't have any customers we're doing this with. we just go the easy route and give them a static IP and a /30 |
| 14:42.42 | bonez41 | I have domains registered for both home here, and work..at my office...yet, if I mail to my mother's AOL account, from home, it rejects...saying can't accept mail from dynamic or home/somthing type accounts, yet from my office, the email goes through to her AOL account, just fine....anyone know why one works and other does not? |
| 14:42.58 | tensai | 5 ip addresses just to give them one useable public IP |
| 14:43.08 | elg | heh |
| 14:43.27 | elg | bonez41: usually it's an ip address block that they've blocked |
| 14:43.34 | elg | do you have static IP address in both places? |
| 14:44.02 | tensai | does your ip address have reverse dns configured? |
| 14:44.07 | bonez41 | yeah, at home here, I have comcast...and despite their teling me the my IP is dynamic it has never changed in 2 years now |
| 14:44.16 | tensai | what's the exact error message that aol gives you? |
| 14:44.24 | bonez41 | tensai, I dont' have reverse dns.... |
| 14:44.28 | bonez41 | not configured |
| 14:44.32 | tensai | have you tried postmaster.info.aol.com? |
| 14:44.45 | tensai | first step is reverse dns. they won't accept mail without it. |
| 14:44.49 | elg | yeah, comcast is most definitely going to be on their list |
| 14:45.00 | bonez41 | at work I have xmission..and it's a static IP |
| 14:45.04 | elg | can you get comcast to give you reverse dns? |
| 14:45.09 | tensai | oh, I didn't see the comcast bit. yeah, that'll be a problem. |
| 14:45.11 | bonez41 | elg, is this a competition thing? |
| 14:45.26 | bonez41 | elg, I'll inquire aobut that with comcast |
| 14:45.36 | elg | no, just that the large majority of "mail servers" coming from comcast IPs are viruses |
| 14:45.45 | elg | which are being used to spam |
| 14:46.15 | bonez41 | tensai, what do you not like about cable net? |
| 14:46.15 | elg | your best bet is to set up your home box to send through a trusted smtp server, like xmission's or your work or something |
| 14:46.33 | tensai | bonez41: they take my customers away :) |
| 14:46.37 | bonez41 | elg, how would I send through a trust smtp server? |
| 14:46.59 | elg | you configure your MTA to use a 'smarthost' (that's often the terminology used) |
| 14:47.06 | bonez41 | ok....... |
| 14:47.13 | elg | xmission will let you authenticate with your xmission username and password |
| 14:47.31 | bonez41 | that would exim4 in my case...so it's just about routing it through xmission or my work... instead of through comcast... |
| 14:47.35 | elg | if you've authenticated, they'll accept it, and aol will accept from xmission |
| 14:47.49 | bonez41 | ok....... |
| 14:47.50 | elg | right. actually you could probably route through comcast's servers too |
| 14:48.07 | tensai | that will be comcast's recommendation I'm sure |
| 14:48.09 | elg | but you'd have to find out the specifics on that, and I already know the specs on routing through xmission |
| 14:48.20 | elg | all I don't know is how to configure exim to do it. :) |
| 14:48.37 | bonez41 | elg, is it just reconfiguring exim...ok, I'll dig into the config files for exim |
| 14:48.39 | elg | the host you want is smtp.xmission.com |
| 14:48.49 | elg | and your xmission username/password |
| 14:48.56 | elg | search for smarthost, I think that's what exim calls it. |
| 14:49.04 | bonez41 | evne for email coming from home here..right? |
| 14:51.01 | bonez41 | elg, I found the smarthost settings in exim4.conf.template... I'll check and see what i need there.... |
| 14:51.06 | bonez41 | looks straightforward enough |
| 14:51.42 | tensai | ~lart debian's exim4 config |
| 14:52.07 | tensai | bonez41: there's a setting in /etc/exim4/update-exim4.conf |
| 14:52.29 | tensai | er, that's /etc/exim4/update-exim4.conf.conf |
| 14:52.47 | bonez41 | gotta love exim...so complicated |
| 14:53.06 | tensai | I dumped that steaming heap of garbage that debian ships with and crafted a monolithic exim4 config |
| 14:53.08 | tensai | so much nice |
| 14:53.12 | tensai | er, nicer |
| 14:53.42 | tensai | I can post it if you like. I've got quite a few customizations. |
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| 14:54.01 | tensai | and that's when the rats started biting my toes off! |
| 14:54.12 | bonez41 | tensai, you are referring to this one > dc_smarthost='' |
| 14:54.14 | tensai | oh, hey levi |
| 14:54.24 | levi | Yo. |
| 14:54.41 | tensai | bonez41: yup |
| 14:54.49 | bonez41 | do I just replace the " with smtp.xmission.com ? |
| 14:54.50 | tensai | change that, then run update-exim4.conf |
| 14:55.07 | tensai | bonez41: yup |
| 14:55.08 | bonez41 | do I need single quotes ' ' around smtp.xmission.com? |
| 14:55.12 | tensai | yes |
| 14:59.12 | bonez41 | here's the error message it WAS giving: SMTP error from remote mailer after initial connection: |
| 14:59.12 | bonez41 | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:59.12 | bonez41 | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:59.12 | bonez41 | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:59.16 | bonez41 | so |
| 15:02.56 | tensai | the url explains it. comcast told them it was a residential address and there's little chance of changing that. |
| 15:03.33 | tensai | basically, you have to smarthost through somebody |
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| 15:09.14 | decriptor | stupid nicks |
| 15:09.34 | decriptor | and a dumb operator :) |
| 15:10.18 | bonez41 | ok |
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| 15:13.36 | tensai | great. I broke evolution |
| 15:15.40 | levi | tensai: What will Darwin have to say about that?! |
| 15:16.26 | tensai | levi: Apple can figure that one out themselves :) |
| 15:18.00 | tensai | I love it. "Error while expunging folder: Success" |
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| 15:20.33 | xbmodder_ | I HATE THIS F'ing PLACE |
| 15:21.00 | xbmodder_ | Just cause my teacher doesn't think I know what socioeconomic means she said I plagurized. |
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| 15:22.03 | tensai | ~flush maquis |
| 15:22.05 | ibot | ACTION flushes maquis like maquis was yesterday's lunch |
| 15:23.03 | xbmodder_ | thank you tensai |
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| 15:59.03 | maquis | tensai: what was that for? |
| 15:59.47 | tensai | maquis: you looked like you needed a good flushing |
| 15:59.54 | maquis | tensai: umm.. . ok? |
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| 16:07.04 | elg | xbmodder: so did yoU? |
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| 16:07.48 | maquis | -lart Jayce^ |
| 16:08.16 | Jayce^ | that's a good one for seattleites |
| 16:08.52 | maquis | :) |
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| 16:12.27 | Jayce^ | but it's nettle |
| 16:13.06 | lars-ut | ~emulate gir |
| 16:13.09 | ibot | where's my moose? |
| 16:13.45 | elg | right here |
| 16:14.20 | lars-ut | through a womrhole? |
| 16:15.00 | lars-ut | s/womrhole/wormhole |
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| 16:24.54 | lars-ut | are factoids being transferred to brac? |
| 16:25.37 | maquis | http://thedailywtf.com/forums/30718/ShowPost.aspx |
| 16:25.41 | brac | [Just Call Me Mr. Dynamic - The Daily WTF] |
| 16:31.24 | lars-ut | I remember wearing shorts one time in the woods near Black Diamond - it hurt. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stinging_nettle |
| 16:31.28 | brac | [Stinging nettle - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia] |
| 16:33.40 | elg | wow, some sgt in iraq wants _me_ to help them get saddam's fortune back to the US. I feel so honored |
| 16:34.51 | lars-ut | Wasn't that a movie & a few tv show eps? |
| 16:35.26 | lars-ut | Three Kings, NCIS (from first season 122 or 123 I think) |
| 16:35.42 | phinux | elg: This is one of those cases where you could really have fun with the scammer by setting up a meeting and then turning them in to the FBI or something. |
| 16:35.43 | elg | i think it's 419 |
| 16:36.01 | lars-ut | checking... I just watched it |
| 16:38.55 | lars-ut | 115 - Enigma |
| 16:39.01 | lars-ut | http://www.tv.com/ncis/enigma/episode/307094/summary.html |
| 16:39.02 | brac | [NCIS: Enigma - TV.com ] |
| 16:39.39 | lars-ut | elg: I just finished the first season. |
| 16:50.01 | lars-ut | Any python folks here? |
| 16:51.18 | goozbach | as of monday :) |
| 16:51.31 | lars-ut | thanks goozbach |
| 16:51.50 | maquis | -lart goozbach |
| 16:52.18 | lars-ut | did the pool cue break before goozbach was hit with it? |
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| 17:02.16 | lars-ut | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:02.50 | maquis | lars-ut: i'm sorry :) |
| 17:02.58 | levi | lars-ut: You have a Python question? |
| 17:03.35 | lars-ut | Actually I was checking to see if there were python hackers here before I referred this channel as a resource to someone else. |
| 17:04.00 | levi | Well, I use Python, but I'm not intimiately familiar with it. |
| 17:05.43 | Jayce^ | lars-ut, grew up in Poulsbo |
| 17:06.03 | lars-ut | I miss the rain. |
| 17:06.08 | Jayce^ | no kidding |
| 17:06.21 | levi | I've lived in Steilacoom, WA for a couple of years. My parents still live there. |
| 17:06.51 | lars-ut | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:07.01 | maquis | lars-ut: i know the feeling |
| 17:07.05 | Jayce^ | amen |
| 17:07.10 | maquis | i miss mukilteo |
| 17:07.32 | Jayce^ | my kayaks are all dried out :( |
| 17:07.33 | maquis | i miss the ferries and the ocean.... |
| 17:07.52 | maquis | the one thing i don't miss is the smell of rotting seaweed on really low tides |
| 17:08.11 | Jayce^ | couldn't get away from that in my area.. was in every direction |
| 17:08.39 | Jayce^ | mm sluys bakery |
| 17:09.08 | maquis | Jayce^: i'm jealous |
| 17:09.18 | lars-ut | I miss Steamed Fish from a Chinese Restaurant |
| 17:09.20 | maquis | i won't be back til thanksgiving |
| 17:09.31 | maquis | mmm... smoked salmon |
| 17:09.34 | lars-ut | served with eyes & all |
| 17:09.49 | Jayce^ | mm, tillicum village |
| 17:09.56 | lars-ut | Lemme see if I get this right: |
| 17:10.28 | Jayce^ | if anyone really get's the hankering, I still have 3 ocean kayaks in my garage.. |
| 17:11.15 | maquis | Jayce^: you ever gone kayaking in the san juans? |
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| 17:11.31 | Jayce^ | yeah, that was just north of my house |
| 17:11.41 | goozbach | the 13the of dec I'l be up there |
| 17:11.44 | maquis | fun! |
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| 17:12.21 | lars-ut | Preheat oven to 450 for one hour with thick baking sheet inside. Prepare salmon fillet with your favorite seasong (I usually use olive oil, dill, & Garlic Salt) on foil boat. Quickly transfer fillet to oven, and turn _off_ oven. Wait 45 minutes, do _not_ open the oven. Seals in moisture real nice. |
| 17:13.19 | lars-ut | If I screwed the times up, you can remedy it with some quick microwave heresy. |
| 17:14.42 | RyanE | lars-ut: is the foil boat an open thing, or sealed up? |
| 17:14.53 | lars-ut | open |
| 17:14.56 | RyanE | i.e. is it a foil packet, or a foil tray? |
| 17:14.59 | RyanE | so like a tray |
| 17:15.11 | lars-ut | just so you keep the juices/oils together |
| 17:15.13 | RyanE | and the baking sheet, like a thick cookie sheet? |
| 17:15.16 | lars-ut | yes |
| 17:15.58 | lars-ut | there are lots of yummy ways to season Salmon - experiment with it |
| 17:15.59 | levi | Costco has some nice thick ones. |
| 17:16.06 | RyanE | lars-ut: seems like 1 hour preheat is a bit of overkill, as the oven should not get any hotter than 450 after probably 20 minutes of preheat... |
| 17:16.17 | lars-ut | it may be. |
| 17:16.27 | lars-ut | depends on the oven |
| 17:16.36 | RyanE | oh, mine is gas. preheats pretty fast |
| 17:16.55 | lars-ut | I got used to cooking in propane ovens in Brazil - hence the overkill |
| 17:17.06 | RyanE | so to check that it doesn't need the microwaves, you just check for flakiness through and through, ne? |
| 17:17.13 | lars-ut | yes |
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| 17:17.23 | RyanE | I made a great pecan pie in a brazilian propane oven once. |
| 17:17.26 | RyanE | mmmm.... |
| 17:17.46 | lars-ut | I made pizza bi-weekly from scratch |
| 17:17.56 | RyanE | sounds like you were a good companion to get. |
| 17:17.59 | lars-ut | from a Massachusetts recipe |
| 17:18.03 | lars-ut | :) |
| 17:18.09 | lars-ut | pode ser |
| 17:18.21 | lars-ut | vamo lá gente! |
| 17:18.45 | sjansen | Jayce^: com sua ajuda ;-) |
| 17:18.56 | RyanE | pedi uma receita pra torta de Pecan de mamaie', e ela mandou sete! |
| 17:19.20 | lars-ut | nossa |
| 17:19.36 | lars-ut | Preciso algumas receitas de salgaginhos |
| 17:19.48 | RyanE | ela gosta de cozinhar. |
| 17:19.58 | lars-ut | s/salgaginhos/salgadinhos |
| 17:19.59 | RyanE | qual tipo de salgadinhos? coxinhas? |
| 17:20.09 | lars-ut | sim |
| 17:20.23 | Jayce^ | mmmm, coxinha's |
| 17:20.27 | lars-ut | agora estou c/ainda mais fome |
| 17:20.34 | RyanE | pao de queijo? tentei fazer pao de queijo, foi horrivel. |
| 17:20.53 | RyanE | salty snacks, usually with meat inside |
| 17:21.01 | maquis | RyanE: thanks |
| 17:21.27 | maquis | i'm working on trying to pick up the pieces of portuguese that are similar to spanish... :) |
| 17:21.37 | RyanE | http://www.maria-brazil.org/tiragostos.htm |
| 17:21.37 | Jayce^ | RyanE, era mineiro, preciso do melhor pão de queijo |
| 17:21.38 | brac | [Brazilian Appetizers] |
| 17:22.05 | RyanE | servi em Curitiba, mas morei numa casa onde faziam coxinhas diariamente. |
| 17:22.27 | lars-ut | maquis: Listen to Tribalistas if you want some exposure to good brasilian vocals |
| 17:22.47 | lars-ut | RyanE: Qual bairro? |
| 17:22.50 | RyanE | coxinhas pra cafe' de manha. |
| 17:23.11 | lars-ut | que sorte |
| 17:23.34 | RyanE | foi no leste da cidade... em Campo Largo |
| 17:23.43 | Jayce^ | http://www.cookbrazil.com/coxinha.htm |
| 17:23.46 | Jayce^ | mmm |
| 17:23.46 | brac | [Coxinha, deep fried chicken filled dough] |
| 17:23.52 | Jayce^ | com queijo catipuiri.... |
| 17:24.21 | lars-ut | RyanE: Conheço Campro Comprido. Boqueirão, e Villa Tebas |
| 17:24.28 | Jayce^ | tenho um vizinho do recife... ela faz assim |
| 17:24.55 | sjansen | o melhor cachorro quente eu encontrei foi feito ao lado de nossa casa, mas pouco trabalhavamos no bairro, entao quase nunce pude come'-lo |
| 17:24.58 | lars-ut | obrigrado pelo link, Jayce^ |
| 17:25.18 | RyanE | nao servi nenhum deles, mas em Vila Oficinas, Ahu e Barrerinha, e no Centro. |
| 17:25.37 | RyanE | cookbrazil e' muito bom. |
| 17:25.42 | Jayce^ | sjansen, cachorro quente com batata palha, milho verde, e uma vinagrete por cima |
| 17:25.46 | RyanE | foi no cook brazil que achei o receito pra tentar fazer pao de queijo. |
| 17:26.05 | jsmith | Nao falo bem |
| 17:26.08 | RyanE | com caldo de cana gelado. |
| 17:26.30 | jsmith | I don't know exactly what you guys are saying, but you're making me hungry! |
| 17:26.34 | RyanE | for some reason, I remember 'food words' in portuguese better than general dialog. :) |
| 17:27.01 | sjansen | caaaaaaaalllllllllllllllldooooooooooooooooo |
| 17:27.16 | Jayce^ | nunca se faz o tÃpo pão de queijo instante... é ruim |
| 17:27.17 | sjansen | RyanE: caldo com limao |
| 17:27.30 | RyanE | sjansen: Mmmmmm |
| 17:28.11 | RyanE | tambem gosto de suco de melancia. |
| 17:29.06 | sjansen | suco de maracuja' passado entre dos copos quantro vezes pra engrossa'-lo |
| 17:29.59 | Jayce^ | mmm.. suco de maracujá pura |
| 17:30.05 | RyanE | tenho suco de maracuja concentrado em casa. |
| 17:30.14 | lars-ut | faz sono... |
| 17:30.30 | lars-ut | mas gostoso |
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| 17:31.24 | lars-ut | Vou almoçar agora. |
| 17:31.45 | RyanE | falei com brasileiro outro dia em Disneyland. teve camisa com 'brasi' nela. |
| 17:31.46 | Jayce^ | também |
| 17:31.53 | sjansen | devemos fazer um piqinique juntos um dia desses |
| 17:32.01 | RyanE | boa idea |
| 17:32.03 | Jayce^ | concerteza |
| 17:32.08 | lars-ut | http://maglebys.com/fresh.html |
| 17:32.09 | brac | [Magleby's Fresh] |
| 17:32.12 | RyanE | s/idea/ideia/ |
| 17:32.30 | levi | Why don't you guys make a #portuguese or something? |
| 17:32.47 | RyanE | more fun to annoy all of #utah. :) |
| 17:32.53 | lars-ut-away | claro |
| 17:33.04 | RyanE | lars-ut-away: which maglebys/fresh? |
| 17:33.06 | sjansen | por essa razao mesma |
| 17:33.08 | RyanE | 123rd so? |
| 17:33.17 | Jayce^ | levi, just follow the recipe url's and the coversation will be more interesting for you |
| 17:33.24 | lars-ut-away | provo riverbottoms |
| 17:33.43 | RyanE | http://www.guloseimas.com.br/delicias/bebidas/sucos.htm <-- suco de Melancia |
| 17:33.44 | levi | Jayce^: The recipes might be interesting, but the conversation certainly is not. |
| 17:33.48 | brac | [Guloseimas] |
| 17:36.27 | sjansen | levi: entao aprenda 'a falar a lingua seu vagabundo :-P |
| 17:37.13 | RyanE | sjansen: hehe |
| 17:38.20 | jsmith | sjansen: Did you just call yourself a vagabundo? |
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| 17:39.25 | hans | -lart screen |
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| 17:40.53 | RyanE | hans: screen problems, eh? |
| 17:41.30 | sjansen | jsmith: nope, use of seu is colloquial when calling someone a name |
| 17:43.15 | jsmith | I see... |
| 17:43.20 | jsmith | Just making sure... |
| 17:43.28 | sjansen | emcnabb: get back to work seu vale nada |
| 17:58.00 | goozbach | what's a good synanym for tube/channel/station? |
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| 18:09.02 | graphyx | goozbach: what context? |
| 18:09.37 | sjansen | So "everything" in Python is an object? |
| 18:10.06 | goozbach | a collection of paths/information |
| 18:10.20 | sjansen | python -c 'print dir(dir) ; print dir(print)' |
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| 18:10.29 | goozbach | sjansen: that's what I'm seeing |
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| 18:10.44 | sjansen | that's why I don't like python, too inconsistent |
| 18:11.44 | sjansen | dir() is an object, print() isn't an object |
| 18:16.09 | tensai | ~lart numist's flaky internet connection |
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| 18:41.31 | tensai | argentina agreed to buy 500,000 to 1 million of MIT's $100 laptops |
| 18:43.15 | amcnabb | I don't think students really need laptops. |
| 18:44.45 | amcnabb | I love technology, but I don't think you should throw it at every problem. |
| 18:45.31 | graphyx | But if you throw enough technology at a problem it might just crush the person who caused the problem. |
| 18:45.39 | graphyx | I have some old mainframes that would be effective. |
| 18:46.17 | amcnabb | :) |
| 18:46.31 | graphyx | j/k. I don't really have some old mainframes. |
| 18:47.06 | tensai | well, I have no idea how they might use them. but I imagine that a lot of places can't afford any computers otherwise. |
| 18:48.47 | tensai | I don't believe *every* student needs a personal computer either |
| 18:48.50 | levi | sjansen: Consistency is a virtue, but hardly the only one. |
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| 18:51.21 | RyanE | I believe that if I become a big enough problem, maybe people will throw money at me. |
| 18:52.21 | graphyx | sounds like the squeaky wheel postulate. |
| 18:52.30 | graphyx | but recall that some squeaky wheels get replaced. |
| 19:00.21 | RyanE | so I want to maximize squeakiness while minimizing the chance that I'll get fired. |
| 19:00.29 | RyanE | got it. Thanks. :) |
| 19:01.09 | amcnabb | Other than my programming and sys admin experience (mostly self-education), almost my entire education has been computer-free. |
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| 19:03.15 | levi | I think kids should become familiar with computers, but they certainly don't need to be used to teach regular elementary education subjects. |
| 19:05.01 | jsmith | I think you're looking at it from the wrong perspective -- in the third world, it's probably easier to buy laptops than it is to buy textbooks |
| 19:05.49 | levi | Laptops are not a substitute for textbooks. |
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| 19:08.16 | nobell | http://jared.degraffenried.net/asteriskoids |
| 19:08.17 | brac | [Asteriskoids] |
| 19:08.29 | nobell | tested for linux firefox, windows firefox and windows IE. |
| 19:08.39 | nobell | can anybody tell me if there are problems with it for you? |
| 19:09.16 | levi | Doesn't work in Safari. |
| 19:09.34 | levi | I just get an empty white box after I click the button. |
| 19:10.11 | jsmith | Error: soundPlay is not a function. |
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| 19:10.33 | jsmith | nobell: Line 675 |
| 19:10.36 | nobell | I'm not familiar with Safari - it's a mac OS/X deal. |
| 19:10.55 | nobell | jsmith: are you using firefox on linux? |
| 19:11.38 | jsmith | nobell: Of course... |
| 19:12.40 | nobell | what linux distribution? |
| 19:21.26 | sjansen | nobell: runs for about a second then firefox goes insane maxing the cpu |
| 19:24.16 | RyanE | I got nothing, then I realized I had JavaScript disabled. duh. |
| 19:25.20 | sjansen | nobell: if sound.Play { sound.Play() } |
| 19:30.13 | SpecialZ | ~lart maquis |
| 19:31.38 | RyanE | so does anyone know what the third largest penguin is (after the Emperor Penguin and King Penguin)? |
| 19:33.03 | RyanE | anyone? Anyone? Beuller? |
| 19:34.12 | graphyx | gentoo? |
| 19:35.50 | RyanE | graphyx: you win. I didn't know that until Sea World on Monday, in the Penguin Enclosure. |
| 19:36.49 | RyanE | they mentioned it during the presentation, and then since it was easy for me to remember, when that was the 'quiz question', they let our family go into the back of the penguin enclosure and touch one of the penguins. Cool. |
| 19:38.20 | RyanE | http://www.ericksonfamily.com/gallery/Day5/IMG_8950 <-- Gotta love Penguins. :) |
| 19:38.21 | brac | [Erickson Photos :: Day 5 - Monday, Oct. 24 :: IMG_8950] |
| 19:42.33 | sjansen | RyanE: at long last you can justify all that time using linux to your wife and kids |
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| 19:42.56 | RyanE | yeah, I told my wife that I used to run Gentoo on my laptop. She was less than impressed. |
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| 20:14.49 | maquis | -lart SpecialZ |
| 20:17.27 | maquis | RyanE: that's cool! |
| 20:19.51 | spr | Not the shoe event horizon! |
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| 20:22.59 | Hhhhh | hello |
| 20:23.50 | maquis | Hhhhh: hi |
| 20:25.06 | sjansen | more likely you'd throw out your back first |
| 20:28.00 | SpecialZ | I don't know about drop kicks, but I've learned to throw large people. |
| 20:34.00 | lars-ut | RyanE: Are thos Gentoo Penguins the same ones documented in 'March of The Penguins'? http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4716575 |
| 20:34.02 | brac | [NPR : Documentary Captures 'March of the Penguins'] |
| 20:34.27 | lars-ut | never mind those ar Emperor in the film |
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| 20:38.43 | xbmodder_ | did someone fix brac? |
| 20:42.42 | xbmodder_ | maquis: TimRiker goozbach fix brac |
| 20:45.43 | lars-ut | TimRiker: will brac assimilate ibot's factoids from this channel? |
| 20:46.00 | lars-ut | ~assimilate brac |
| 20:46.01 | ibot | ACTION jams assimilation tubes into brac's neck and injects Borg nanobots. |
| 20:46.20 | lars-ut | looks like it's gonna be the other way around |
| 20:46.47 | lars-ut | unless brac pulls a Neo vs. Agent Smith on ibot |
| 20:48.58 | lars-ut | pfSense news: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.os.freebsd.current/76201 |
| 20:49.00 | brac | [Gmane -- Mail To News And Back Again] |
| 20:49.15 | lars-ut | 6.0-RELEASE coming |
| 20:51.14 | xbmodder_ | happiness http://google.com |
| 20:51.18 | brac | [Google] |
| 20:51.28 | xbmodder_ | err. ibot2.py is bad news for ibot. |
| 20:51.37 | xbmodder_ | and brac |
| 20:51.41 | xbmodder_ | brac: shall cry! |
| 20:54.23 | mheath | You know.... |
| 20:54.37 | mheath | I used to think that Sun's Java Tutorials were very good |
| 20:54.42 | mheath | well written, complete, etc |
| 20:54.56 | xbmodder_ | haha. |
| 20:55.09 | mheath | Recently I've discovered, though, that they frequently have you do things in slightly unecessarily complex ways |
| 20:55.26 | mheath | They're still pretty good |
| 20:55.36 | mheath | They just don't touch on some simpler ways of doing things |
| 20:55.43 | tensai | ~lart evolution for locking tensai's display |
| 20:55.53 | sjansen | mheath: that's a good summary of java in general "slightly unecessarily complex" |
| 20:56.44 | mheath | For example, I was making a Swing Table object for a GUI |
| 20:57.01 | mheath | And the Sun Java Tutorial had you make an Object[][] array and pass it to the Table constructor |
| 20:57.06 | mheath | It didn't mention any other way |
| 20:57.25 | mheath | Yet, you can simply create a TableModel, and use methods like "addRow" and friends |
| 20:57.45 | mheath | I mean, after all, it IS an object oriented language |
| 20:57.57 | mheath | It wouldn't hurt for the tutorial to touch on the object oriented way of doing things. |
| 20:58.06 | xbmodder_ | [] |
| 20:58.19 | mheath | xbmodder? |
| 20:59.20 | mheath | *sigh* |
| 20:59.23 | mheath | I have to finish this tonight |
| 20:59.35 | mheath | Any competent MySQL admins here? |
| 20:59.49 | tensai | mheath: in fairness, it's a tutorial and not an API guide. that said, I've had the same impression. |
| 21:00.16 | mheath | I'm looking for an easy way to 1) export the contents of my database to a file, and 2) restore that contents to another database |
| 21:00.20 | mheath | I'm not too familiar with MySQL |
| 21:00.24 | tensai | mheath: mysqldump |
| 21:00.26 | mheath | and I was wondering if someone could explain how I could do this |
| 21:00.47 | mheath | tensai: how do I restore stuff dumped with that? |
| 21:00.56 | tensai | use the mysql client |
| 21:01.04 | jsmith | mysqldump database_name > file.sql |
| 21:01.10 | jsmith | mysql database < file.sql |
| 21:01.23 | tensai | mheath: what jsmith said |
| 21:01.28 | mheath | jsmith: er, theres a problem with that |
| 21:01.31 | jsmith | (that's the very basics, but it'll give you the right idea) |
| 21:01.38 | jsmith | mheath: Oh yeah? |
| 21:01.40 | mheath | I have to do this all on Windows computers |
| 21:01.46 | tensai | worked fine what I did it today |
| 21:01.57 | mheath | Whats the Command.com equiv of < and > and friends? |
| 21:01.58 | jsmith | mheath: So? You've got a command-line client, right? |
| 21:02.04 | jsmith | mheath: They work just the same |
| 21:02.17 | mheath | jsmith: oh, really? Cool. Thanks |
| 21:02.28 | mheath | the MS-DOS prompt doesn't support |, though, does it? |
| 21:02.35 | jsmith | Yes, it does |
| 21:02.44 | tensai | there's just nothing good to pipe it to :) |
| 21:02.55 | lars-ut | sed for DOS? |
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| 21:03.55 | tensai | ~lart virginia |
| 21:09.35 | sjansen | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:10.08 | sjansen | oops, silly me, another typo |
| 21:16.04 | levi | I used to live in Virginia. |
| 21:16.12 | levi | Graduated from high school there, in fact. |
| 21:19.55 | sjansen | curse you emcnabb |
| 21:20.25 | maquis | sjansen: why you cursing emcnabb? |
| 21:21.10 | emcnabb | I don't know |
| 21:21.22 | goozbach | because heals so cursable |
| 21:21.46 | maquis | goozbach: why did you guys have a kick emcnabb party yesterday without me? |
| 21:22.14 | goozbach | well you are opped now |
| 21:22.27 | goozbach | and we're both here... |
| 21:22.32 | maquis | :) |
| 21:22.43 | goozbach | and emcnabb is here... |
| 21:22.48 | maquis | we just need to get him to do something to let us kick him :) |
| 21:22.56 | sjansen | maquis: he brought in cookies |
| 21:23.06 | maquis | cookies? |
| 21:23.11 | maquis | emcnabb: can i have a cookie??? |
| 21:23.15 | maquis | sjansen: what type of cookies? |
| 21:23.16 | sjansen | I'm distinctly not hungry, but now there's a cookie sitting just six inches away. |
| 21:23.19 | sjansen | It's taunting me. |
| 21:23.27 | goozbach | on a day when I'm not there?! |
| 21:23.41 | goozbach | sounds like reason enough... |
| 21:24.07 | *** kick/#utah [emcnabb!n=maquis@joanna.zmonkey.org] by maquis (i want a cookie) |
| 21:24.15 | *** join/#utah emcnabb (n=emcnabb@hq-nat2.gurulabs.com) |
| 21:24.23 | emcnabb | dang you corrupt OPs! |
| 21:24.43 | goozbach | of course if you waited for me to be in the office, wou'd never get treats |
| 21:25.02 | *** mode/#utah [-o maquis] by goozbach |
| 21:25.18 | *** mode/#utah [+o emcnabb] by goozbach |
| 21:26.34 | emcnabb | Ah, now we see the violence inherent in the system. |
| 21:26.41 | emcnabb | Oh! Come and see the violence inherent in the system! |
| 21:26.44 | spr | wait, since when is goozback a op? |
| 21:26.52 | emcnabb | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:26.55 | *** mode/#utah [-o emcnabb] by goozbach |
| 21:27.02 | emcnabb | Oh, what a give away. Did you hear that, did you hear |
| 21:27.02 | emcnabb | that, eh? That's what I'm on about -- did you see him repressing |
| 21:27.02 | emcnabb | Mecworks, you saw it didn't you? |
| 21:27.10 | *** mode/#utah [+o maquis] by ChanServ |
| 21:27.46 | *** mode/#utah [-o goozbach] by goozbach |
| 21:27.57 | goozbach | I'm not an op |
| 21:27.58 | *** mode/#utah [-o maquis] by maquis |
| 21:28.06 | goozbach | who? me? |
| 21:28.28 | maquis | what violence? |
| 21:28.32 | goozbach | now to let a couple days go by so that everyone forgets |
| 21:29.05 | maquis | e |
| 21:29.17 | emcnabb | good luck getting one from me... |
| 21:29.50 | maquis | emcnabb: what type of cookies are they? |
| 21:29.58 | emcnabb | chocolate chip |
| 21:30.04 | emcnabb | very tasty |
| 21:30.13 | maquis | did lisa make them? |
| 21:30.49 | emcnabb | yes |
| 21:30.59 | maquis | mmm.. |
| 21:31.03 | maquis | homemade cookies.... |
| 21:33.40 | goozbach | maquis: youll notice that emcnabb didn't take the chance he had to kick you... |
| 21:35.00 | maquis | goozbach: yes... i did notice that |
| 21:35.43 | maquis | emcnabb's too nice for stuff like that |
| 21:36.12 | emcnabb | I am |
| 21:36.34 | emcnabb | actually, I would probably have too much fun with it |
| 21:37.03 | sjansen | ~dropkick emcnabb |
| 21:37.06 | ibot | ACTION sends emcnabb flying like a yipping chihuahua |
| 21:37.53 | emcnabb | at least that's the only kicking sjansen can do |
| 21:38.09 | maquis | :) |
| 21:39.29 | harleypig | Anyone fmailiar with vim and can help with remapping control keys? |
| 21:40.08 | emcnabb | maquis, I know a lot of people who would disagree with you on that statement |
| 21:40.20 | emcnabb | good example right there |
| 21:40.36 | maquis | well... emcnabb is always nice to me :) |
| 21:40.41 | emcnabb | ~lart maquis |
| 21:40.49 | maquis | -lart emcnabb |
| 21:41.28 | goozbach | and since when is becomming powerfull oppression? |
| 21:42.09 | emcnabb | well, the first 3 times I was kicked, for example |
| 21:42.15 | emcnabb | :-) |
| 21:42.20 | goozbach | he didn't start complaining apout being oppressed till after I op'ed him |
| 21:42.21 | maquis | :) |
| 21:42.51 | goozbach | emcnabb: I was allowing you to fight back |
| 21:43.03 | goozbach | that's not oppression |
| 21:43.49 | emcnabb | If I am holding a gun, should I shoot? No, young grasshoper, no... |
| 21:44.10 | maquis | emcnabb: why not? :-P |
| 21:44.26 | sjansen | because it much more fun to punch and KICK |
| 21:45.00 | maquis | sjansen: or play with knives... |
| 21:45.03 | TimRiker | brac? |
| 21:45.11 | levi | Guns are so uncivilized and barbaric. Gentlemen kill each other with swords. |
| 21:45.14 | maquis | TimRiker: hi |
| 21:45.24 | emcnabb | I prefer using forks |
| 21:45.38 | harleypig | levi: That's far too impersonal. Bare hands is much more genteel. |
| 21:45.41 | TimRiker | hans: playing with a bot? |
| 21:45.41 | maquis | actually, my dad almost lost his eye to a fork when he was little |
| 21:45.56 | maquis | -welcome TimRiker |
| 21:46.06 | maquis | hmmm |
| 21:46.14 | TimRiker | ~welcome maquis |
| 21:46.17 | ibot | Howdy, maquis! |
| 21:46.25 | maquis | TimRiker: just trying to get brac to say hi to you |
| 21:46.45 | maquis | -foo |
| 21:47.03 | goozbach | brac: hi |
| 21:47.03 | brac | 'sup goozbach? |
| 21:47.27 | TimRiker | ibot: chanset #utah addressingChar - |
| 21:47.27 | ibot | Setting addressingChar for #utah to '-'. |
| 21:47.37 | TimRiker | -hi |
| 21:47.37 | brac | TimRiker: 'sup? |
| 21:47.44 | TimRiker | hmm |
| 21:47.51 | TimRiker | ibot: chanset #utah -addressingChar |
| 21:47.51 | ibot | Unsetting addressingChar for #utah; was '-'. |
| 21:49.38 | TimRiker | ibot: chanset #utah addressCharacter - |
| 21:49.38 | ibot | Setting addressCharacter for #utah to '-'. |
| 21:49.40 | TimRiker | -hi |
| 21:49.41 | ibot | hello, timriker |
| 21:49.41 | brac | yo TimRiker! |
| 21:49.51 | maquis | -lart goozbach |
| 21:50.07 | TimRiker | -lart brac |
| 21:50.39 | goozbach | -say -hi |
| 21:50.41 | ibot | -hi |
| 21:50.41 | brac | hey ibot :) |
| 21:50.44 | synic | odd. |
| 21:50.46 | synic | [synic@rhuidean ~]$ ruby -e "puts 8.14 - 7.77" |
| 21:50.46 | synic | 0.370000000000001 |
| 21:50.46 | synic | [synic@rhuidean ~]$ perl -e "print 8.14 - 7.77" |
| 21:50.46 | synic | 0.370000000000001 |
| 21:51.11 | TimRiker | nothing odd about that in binary. |
| 21:51.23 | TimRiker | -8.14 - 7.77 |
| 21:51.28 | ibot | 0.37 |
| 21:51.32 | TimRiker | heh |
| 21:51.51 | TimRiker | ibot: chanset #utah -addressCharacter |
| 21:51.52 | ibot | Unsetting addressCharacter for #utah; was '-'. |
| 21:51.54 | maquis | TimRiker: i think that the only thing that has caused problems is that you can embed a command for ibot in the title of a webpage, and last night that was (rather impressively) used to create a loop |
| 21:52.18 | maquis | (embed it in the title so that brac calls it) |
| 21:52.28 | TimRiker | maquis: yeah? when did it get the command from the title? rss or something? |
| 21:52.36 | tensai | http://www.rikers.org/ |
| 21:52.39 | brac | [Tim Riker World] |
| 21:52.41 | maquis | http://thedailywtf.com/forums/48364/ShowPost.aspx |
| 21:52.44 | brac | [The Millisecond Converter - The Daily WTF] |
| 21:52.58 | RyanE | TimRiker: brac does that |
| 21:53.51 | RyanE | maquis: brac doesn't belong to TimRiker, but to hans, I believe. |
| 21:54.05 | maquis | RyanE: i know... i'm just commenting |
| 21:54.13 | TimRiker | would be an easy patch to add to ibot(blootbot) as long as it's controllable by a flag, I'm ok with adding it. |
| 21:54.15 | RyanE | maquis: and I'm just slow. |
| 21:54.32 | tensai | maquis: hans is open to patches |
| 21:54.32 | TimRiker | RyanE: well, run on hans server, so I presume it's hans. ;-) |
| 21:54.34 | maquis | RyanE: haha... :) |
| 21:54.46 | maquis | tensai: if i knew how, i'd offer one |
| 21:55.37 | TimRiker | ibot: addignore brac!*@* |
| 21:55.37 | ibot | added brac!*@* to ignore list. |
| 21:55.49 | TimRiker | that should fix it. =) |
| 21:55.55 | maquis | cool :) |
| 21:56.28 | tensai | ibot: addignore maquis!*@* |
| 21:56.38 | tensai | ah, durn |
| 21:56.56 | mheath | mmm |
| 21:56.57 | TimRiker | heh. gotta be a bot admin. |
| 21:57.09 | TimRiker | same for other bits like: |
| 21:57.13 | tensai | yeah, figured |
| 21:57.14 | mheath | this is almost done! |
| 21:57.14 | TimRiker | ibot: reload |
| 21:57.14 | ibot | reloading... |
| 21:57.14 | ibot | reloaded: |
| 21:57.25 | mheath | this program is simple, yet awesome. |
| 21:57.28 | TimRiker | ibot: rootshell lsdfl |
| 21:57.30 | ibot | root@blootbot:~# lsdfl bash: lsdfl: command not found |
| 21:57.54 | maquis | TimRiker: isn't there a command to get ibot to send you a message? |
| 21:58.07 | tensai | ibot: tell maquis about ibot |
| 21:58.09 | TimRiker | ibot: tell maquis about 1+1 |
| 21:58.16 | *** join/#utah Josh_F (n=chatzill@206.126.161.15) |
| 21:58.18 | TimRiker | or you mean botmail? |
| 21:58.22 | TimRiker | ibot: +help botmail |
| 21:58.24 | maquis | i think goo was trying to come up with a way to get a bot that could cntact him if ue wasn't at the computer |
| 21:58.38 | TimRiker | ahh. then you mean page. |
| 21:58.42 | maquis | yeah |
| 21:58.43 | TimRiker | ibot +help page |
| 21:58.56 | maquis | i think that's what goo was looking for |
| 21:59.10 | maquis | i vaguely recalled that ibot had something like that, but didn't know much about it |
| 21:59.17 | TimRiker | ibot: page timriker something is broken. |
| 21:59.27 | TimRiker | ooh. that's not good. |
| 21:59.28 | RyanE | hehe |
| 21:59.34 | maquis | haha |
| 21:59.49 | maquis | or perhaps it is very good, in that you're not getting paged... |
| 21:59.53 | goozbach | just don't invoke goozbach |
| 21:59.53 | TimRiker | =) |
| 22:00.29 | maquis | hmmm |
| 22:00.35 | maquis | good point.. we need an invoker |
| 22:00.40 | RyanE | actually, it should be 'ha, ha!' spoken in Nelson Muntz's voice. |
| 22:00.40 | maquis | i've only gotten it to work once |
| 22:01.48 | goozbach | @Lve written my pager into my client for those channels which don't like bots |
| 22:02.11 | maquis | goozbach: you did? how? |
| 22:02.16 | TimRiker | hmm. perl Mail::Mailer is installed and sendmail is on the path. don't know why it didn't send. |
| 22:02.25 | maquis | goozbach: and how do i use it? |
| 22:04.03 | maquis | sjansen: so you'd rather have to actually go to a site to find out what it's about? |
| 22:04.18 | sjansen | maquis: exactly |
| 22:04.28 | maquis | sjansen: why? |
| 22:04.50 | sjansen | a bot should only speak when spoken to |
| 22:04.54 | sjansen | full stop |
| 22:04.56 | sjansen | period |
| 22:05.01 | sjansen | end of sentence |
| 22:05.02 | maquis | sjansen: why? |
| 22:05.07 | tensai | sjansen: even bucky bot? |
| 22:05.30 | TimRiker | ~rss http://rikers.org/ |
| 22:05.31 | brac | [Tim Riker World] |
| 22:05.37 | TimRiker | how's that? |
| 22:06.29 | TimRiker | it's not really rss, but it does have a title. ;-) |
| 22:06.29 | sjansen | ugly and annoying |
| 22:06.51 | TimRiker | ~rss http://annoying.com/ |
| 22:06.52 | brac | [The Future Looks Bright With Annoying Co.] |
| 22:07.13 | sjansen | ah, ibot is responding to the ~rss, that I can live with |
| 22:07.22 | sjansen | ~silence brac |
| 22:07.23 | ibot | ACTION shoves an apple in brac's mouth, shoves a spit through ... well, uhm, anyway ... then builds a nice fire and starts roasting |
| 22:13.10 | emcnabb | now if Jayce^ would only follow those words of advice... |
| 22:22.33 | emcnabb | :-) |
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| 22:23.15 | xbmodder_lappy | brac, are you fixed? |
| 22:23.15 | brac | ...eh? |
| 22:25.35 | emcnabb | Ah, now we see the violence inherent in the system. |
| 22:27.57 | Jayce^ | hrm, if emcnabb is dennis, and claiming I'm arthur, would that make TimRiker the lady of the lake? |
| 22:28.54 | dennis | rofl |
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| 22:30.55 | mheath | http://pastebin.com/408347 <--- Can someone take a look at that (Java question) |
| 22:30.58 | brac | [pastebin - collaborative debugging tool] |
| 22:31.55 | mheath | Exception gets thrown when DefaultTableModel.getValueAt(row, column) is called |
| 22:36.49 | sjansen | looks like you're trying to read data from an empty array |
| 22:42.48 | mheath | sjansen: Its not empty, though |
| 22:42.59 | mheath | The table model contains the data that my table uses |
| 22:43.10 | mheath | oddly enough, when I call "table.getValueAt(row, column)" things work |
| 22:43.25 | mheath | but model.getValueAt(row, column) doesn't |
| 22:43.38 | mheath | Which is odd, because those two methods should be doing the same thing and pulling the data from the same place |
| 22:44.08 | mheath | Because of "JTable table = new JTable(model);" |
| 22:44.10 | mheath | Oh well |
| 22:44.14 | mheath | using table will work for now |
| 23:19.14 | xbmodder_lappy | maquis, I enhanced the little ibot/brac dialogue. Can I try it? |
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| 23:32.20 | *** mode/#utah [+o GvzEvxre] by ChanServ |
| 23:33.03 | maquis | xbmodder_lappy: ummm... sure? |
| 23:34.53 | xbmodder_lappy | http://xbmodder.us/pyportal/ibot2.py |
| 23:34.53 | brac | [ |
| 23:34.53 | brac | ~say http://xbmodder.us/pyportal/ibot1.py?a=89990040475/lalala880782322 |
| 23:34.54 | brac | ~say http://xbmodder.us/pyportal/ibot1.py?a=32659762906/lalala560137277 |
| 23:34.54 | brac | ~say http://xbmodder.us/pyportal/ibot1.py?a=10816168462/lalala509099938 |
| 23:34.56 | brac | ] |
| 23:35.05 | xbmodder_lappy | umm... |
| 23:35.08 | xbmodder_lappy | ibot.... |
| 23:35.13 | levi | Heh. |
| 23:35.13 | xbmodder_lappy | ~say ho |
| 23:35.17 | ibot | ho |
| 23:35.21 | xbmodder_lappy | wtf. |
| 23:35.28 | levi | Someone must have been reading the logs. :) |
| 23:35.40 | xbmodder_lappy | http://xbmodder.us/pyportal/ibot2.py |
| 23:35.51 | jsmith | ~say "Go home!" |
| 23:35.52 | ibot | "Go home!" |
| 23:35.54 | xbmodder_lappy | I think brac broke. |
| 23:36.02 | xbmodder_lappy | http://google.com |
| 23:36.03 | brac | [Google] |
| 23:36.04 | jsmith | -say Howdy |
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| 23:36.13 | xbmodder_lappy | jsmith, brac doesn't have say |
| 23:36.16 | xbmodder_lappy | http://xbmodder.us/pyportal/ibot2.py |
| 23:36.18 | jsmith | Figures... |
| 23:36.23 | xbmodder_lappy | http://xbmodder.us/pyportal/ibot1.py |
| 23:36.23 | brac | [ |
| 23:36.24 | brac | ~say http://xbmodder.us/pyportal/ibot2.py?a=71508146511/lalala335059902 |
| 23:36.24 | brac | ] |
| 23:36.30 | levi | xbmodder: I'd say it looks like brac and ibot are 'fixed', not broke. :) |
| 23:36.36 | xbmodder_lappy | ~say http://f |
| 23:36.37 | ibot | http://f |
| 23:36.41 | xbmodder_lappy | ~say http://xbmodder.us |
| 23:36.43 | ibot | http://xbmodder.us |
| 23:36.43 | brac | [Xbmodder/Sargun's Site!] |
| 23:36.51 | xbmodder_lappy | ~say http://xbmodder.us/pyportal/ |
| 23:36.53 | ibot | http://xbmodder.us/pyportal/ |
| 23:36.53 | brac | [Index of /pyportal] |
| 23:36.55 | jsmith | -s/cool/awesome/ |
| 23:37.00 | xbmodder_lappy | ~say http://xbmodder.us/pyportal/ibot2.py |
| 23:37.01 | ibot | http://xbmodder.us/pyportal/ibot2.py |
| 23:37.11 | xbmodder_lappy | wtf... |
| 23:37.20 | xbmodder_lappy | someone censored it. |
| 23:37.35 | levi | Which, as far as I'm concerned, is not a problem. |
| 23:38.06 | xbmodder_lappy | ~say http://xbmodder.us/pyportal/fat2.py |
| 23:38.07 | ibot | http://xbmodder.us/pyportal/fat2.py |
| 23:38.18 | levi | The bots are not your playthings, and the channel is not yours to crapflood. |
| 23:38.32 | xbmodder_lappy | levi, ok. |
| 23:38.58 | levi | That's always a nice feeling. |
| 23:38.58 | xbmodder_lappy | mheath, what is it? |
| 23:39.32 | mheath | xbmodder_lappy: a somewhat trivial program for my CompSci class, but I've been working on it for a few days, and I'm finally almost done |
| 23:39.40 | xbmodder_lappy | cool. |
| 23:39.56 | mheath | Infact, unless I'm mistaken, I'm done |
| 23:40.05 | mheath | just need to test it with an actual MySQL database |
| 23:40.21 | maquis | xbmodder_lappy: if you want to play with bots, there's always #botpark |
| 23:40.54 | xbmodder_lappy | maquis, but is ibot and brac there? |
| 23:41.39 | maquis | ibot is (by one of her names) |
| 23:41.52 | maquis | along with 5 or 6 other bots, iirc |
| 23:42.16 | xbmodder_lappy | I don't see any URL gropers. |
| 23:42.28 | maquis | xbmodder_lappy: purl == ibot |
| 23:42.48 | xbmodder_lappy | oh |
| 23:43.09 | levi | xbmodder_lappy: So, run your own url-watching bot. |
| 23:45.56 | goozbach | dave ad |
| 23:46.15 | goozbach | dave and buster's rather is cool |
| 23:46.24 | mheath | w00t! |
| 23:46.27 | mheath | It works! |
| 23:46.50 | mheath | But |
| 23:46.51 | mheath | IT WORKS |
| 23:49.53 | levi | WOO, time to go home. |
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