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| 00:45.02 | levi | Time to head home. |
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| 02:12.06 | tensai | elg: it's after midnight in .nl now |
| 02:12.59 | hans | thanks |
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| 02:34.02 | tensai | hans: I think I've got a fix for brac to follow redirects |
| 02:35.45 | hans | oh yeah? |
| 02:37.19 | tensai | I think so. I can't exactly test it though. |
| 02:37.42 | tensai | in lib/rbot/httputil.rb I added this to line 129 |
| 02:37.47 | tensai | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:37.47 | tensai | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:38.42 | tensai | that's against the latest svn |
| 02:40.30 | tensai | that also won't handle deep recursion either. |
| 02:41.13 | tensai | there's an example at http://www.ruby-doc.org/stdlib/libdoc/net/http/rdoc/classes/Net/HTTP.html which works a little different |
| 02:41.15 | brac | [Class: Net::HTTP] |
| 02:48.09 | tensai | or this would work, I think: |
| 02:48.17 | tensai | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:48.21 | tensai | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:48.33 | tensai | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:48.33 | tensai | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:48.33 | tensai | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:48.33 | tensai | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:48.33 | tensai | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:48.33 | tensai | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:48.35 | tensai | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:48.37 | tensai | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:48.39 | tensai | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:48.41 | tensai | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:48.43 | tensai | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:48.45 | tensai | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:48.49 | levi | Yow. |
| 02:48.57 | levi | pastebin! :) |
| 02:49.12 | hans | -lart levi |
| 02:49.51 | maquis | -lart hans |
| 02:50.05 | maquis | brac: that aint no lart.... |
| 02:51.09 | levi | Are ruby's {}'s replaceable with begin/end pairs, or are the two different? |
| 02:51.54 | tensai | levi: because the channel is so busy... :P |
| 02:52.09 | tensai | are there any pastebins that have ruby syntax hilighting? |
| 02:52.13 | maquis | -lart tensai |
| 02:52.27 | maquis | youch! |
| 02:52.56 | levi | I dunno, but there are some with no syntax highlighting, which is at least a little better-looking that having your nick prepended to every line. |
| 02:54.03 | hans | tensai: actually I'm inserting the code to do it in the url plugin. Here's what I have now: http://hans.fugal.net/tmp/url.rb.txt |
| 02:54.08 | levi | Here's one: http://code.bulix.org/ |
| 02:54.18 | brac | [// code.bulix.org : code pastebin //] |
| 02:54.19 | hans | can't play with it now, but if you get something worked into that, I'll debug it later |
| 02:54.41 | levi | 'tensai Did you see my question about {}'s? |
| 02:55.35 | levi | Heh, whoops. |
| 02:55.56 | levi | I should write a ruby syntax highlighter for lisppaste. |
| 02:56.19 | tensai | http://code.bulix.org/680 |
| 02:56.26 | brac | [// code.bulix.org : code pastebin //] |
| 02:56.28 | levi | Perhaps after I finish my Markdown parser. |
| 02:57.35 | tensai | oh, he left |
| 02:58.06 | tensai | levi: I believe {} and begin/end are equivalent |
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| 02:59.53 | levi | When you have proxy.start() followed by a block, does the result of proxy.start() get passed into the block? |
| 03:30.09 | levi | It's so quiet... |
| 03:33.47 | Supaplex | time to toss this nvidia mx 100 and slap in the mx 4000 mmmm mm |
| 03:37.40 | levi | Playing games? |
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| 03:45.19 | Supaplex | I plan on it :) |
| 03:46.08 | levi | What kind? |
| 03:46.19 | maquis | hmmm |
| 03:46.32 | Supaplex | hl2 to start out with |
| 03:46.55 | levi | Ah. I don't really have any interest in first-person shooters. |
| 03:47.07 | levi | I'm not good at them, and they make me sick. |
| 03:48.03 | maquis | the last thing printing is: "uhci0: <Intel 82801CA/CAM (ICH3) USB controller USB-A> port 0xefe0-0xefff irq 11 at device 29.0 on pci0 |
| 03:48.08 | maquis | has anybody seen anything like that? |
| 03:48.44 | tensai | yeah, it's a usb controller. useful for usb peripherals |
| 03:49.49 | maquis | tensai: i mean... everything dying after that |
| 03:50.01 | tensai | can you boot it with a no usb option? |
| 03:50.15 | maquis | dunno |
| 03:50.17 | maquis | i can try |
| 03:50.24 | Supaplex | is your pc subseptible to the bird flu? ;) |
| 03:52.42 | maquis | Supaplex: my pcs are susceptible to constant attack by murphy |
| 03:55.04 | maquis | tensai: there are a couple options for booting |
| 03:55.35 | maquis | acpi disabled, safe mode, single-user mode, verbose logging, usb keyboard, loader prompt, and the default |
| 03:56.13 | tensai | my box at work requires acpi to be disabled. I dunno, try them all. |
| 03:56.55 | maquis | tensai: none of them really look like they'd be related to the usb controller... except for telling it to boot with a usb keyboard, which i'm not doing |
| 03:57.30 | maquis | beastie might actually be cuter than tux... not sure yet |
| 03:58.04 | maquis | hmmm |
| 03:58.12 | maquis | disabling ACPI makes it die sooner |
| 04:00.46 | maquis | freebsd doesn't like sekhmet... |
| 04:01.15 | tensai | try safe mode |
| 04:03.20 | maquis | tried it |
| 04:03.45 | maquis | i've tried all except the "with USB keyboard" (which probably wouldn't work, since i don't have a USB keyboard) |
| 04:04.07 | maquis | i'm looking at the docs, and i'm thinking that the docs must be from a different version or something |
| 04:05.44 | maquis | it says that if i go to the default way, it should take me to the kernel configuration menu |
| 04:05.50 | maquis | but it's not :( |
| 04:06.01 | maquis | why do i have such bad luck with computers? |
| 04:06.34 | maquis | it's not telling me anything about the disks... which it's supposed to do, apparently |
| 04:08.31 | maquis | hmmm |
| 04:08.59 | maquis | so... i somehow managed to get a very very very sparse shell (doesn't have cat... etc), and managed to ls the disk |
| 04:09.05 | maquis | it has an INSTALL.TXT file |
| 04:09.13 | maquis | so, i tried "type INSTALL.TXT" |
| 04:09.26 | maquis | it came back with "Error: out of memory" |
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| 04:11.01 | levi | Heh. |
| 04:25.18 | xbmodder_lappy | hey |
| 04:25.20 | xbmodder_lappy | sup all? |
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| 04:49.51 | xbmodder_lappy | Question: How do I make ACPI shut down with my other key. I have alotta keys on my keyboard that are useless. How do I map them? |
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| 06:23.32 | xbmodder_lappy | hey |
| 06:23.39 | xbmodder_lappy | how come barely anyone talks in here?: |
| 06:29.03 | xbmodder_lappy | Prime minister ofMalaysia bad! |
| 06:29.07 | xbmodder_lappy | Martial arts good! |
| 06:29.11 | xbmodder_lappy | Kill naughty man! |
| 06:29.14 | xbmodder_lappy | Obey my dog! |
| 06:40.50 | maquis | ~lart cleaning checks |
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| 08:13.58 | maquis | ~lart vacuums that leave the floor as dirty as it was before |
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| 10:00.40 | findlay | ibot: maquis is also quite the lartsmith |
| 10:00.41 | ibot | okay, findlay |
| 10:00.48 | findlay | ~maquis |
| 10:00.50 | ibot | i don't give information like that to filthy cardassian spies, or a screamless girl, or quite the lartsmith |
| 10:08.09 | maquis | almost done |
| 10:08.14 | maquis | ~lart findlay |
| 10:20.28 | findlay | maquis: time to go to bed |
| 10:22.20 | findlay | ~talk to xbmodder_lappy |
| 10:23.16 | maquis | findlay: i'd like to |
| 10:26.48 | findlay | play /music/Brahms/that_famous_lullaby_that_they_always_program_into_mechanical_crib_mobil_music_devices |
| 10:31.00 | findlay | good night maquis |
| 10:33.48 | maquis | gnight findlay |
| 11:17.05 | mheath | as uncomfortable as dress blues are, they look a lot better |
| 11:17.16 | mheath | <--- mheath, the incredible American sailor |
| 12:11.50 | graphyx | morning. |
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| 12:39.45 | graphyx | morning. |
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| 13:44.41 | tensai | ~lart maquis for vacuuming at 2am |
| 13:46.10 | graphyx | I think you should have given the vacuum a new bootloader. |
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| 14:01.52 | elg | -weather klru |
| 14:01.53 | brac | The weather stored for KLRU could not be parsed (KLRU 141429Z AUTO RMK AO2 PWINO) |
| 14:02.00 | elg | -weather kpvu |
| 14:02.01 | brac | 27 minutes ago, on Sat Oct 15 13:35:00 UTC 2005, the wind was blowing at a speed of 6.69 meters per second (14.96 miles per hour) from the Southeast at KPVU. The temperature was 11 degrees Celsius (52 degrees Fahrenheit), and the pressure was 1016 hPa (30.00 inHg). The relative humidity was 40.2%. The sky was clear. |
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| 15:48.58 | SpecialZ | ~lart maquis |
| 16:11.28 | maquis | ~beat SpecialZ |
| 16:11.29 | ibot | ACTION beats SpecialZ with a large stick. |
| 16:11.49 | SpecialZ | Can you see the parade from your window? |
| 16:12.02 | emcnabb_ | no |
| 16:12.21 | maquis | parade? |
| 16:12.55 | SpecialZ | BYU homecoming parade along 800 North. |
| 16:13.13 | SpecialZ | plus free pancake breakfast by the pond. |
| 16:21.09 | maquis | i think i see people lined up for it |
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| 16:25.13 | *** topic/#utah by spr -> The source for OSS focused discussion in Utah. See sllug.org, uphpu.org, plug.org, uug.byu.edu, uvlug.org, fslc.usu.edu, nupm.org, utwaa.org, oalug.com. See planetutah.adelantellc.com for aggregate feeds |
| 16:33.24 | maquis | SpecialZ: yup... i can see it now |
| 16:34.38 | SpecialZ | Free pancakes aren't worth an hour long line |
| 16:36.50 | maquis | skip that |
| 16:36.59 | maquis | brick oven is handing out free pizza out ther |
| 16:38.21 | maquis | wow!!! that's a cool float!!! |
| 16:46.53 | hans_ | -lart maquis' float |
| 16:53.13 | maquis | there's a dead spot in the parde because one of the floats is currently human powered... looks like the engine went out |
| 16:54.24 | SpecialZ | are they still doing the free pizza? from a float? |
| 16:54.33 | maquis | the army's got George Q out... |
| 16:55.16 | maquis | yay for bagpipes! |
| 16:55.48 | SpecialZ | Why do bagpipe players walk while they play? |
| 16:56.08 | SpecialZ | To get away from the noise! |
| 17:08.42 | maquis | hmmm |
| 17:08.59 | maquis | so, if i try to boot the freebsd cd with verbose logging, it gives a bit of additional information: |
| 17:09.19 | maquis | "uhci0: Reserved 0x20 bytes for rid 0x20 type 4 at 0xefe0 |
| 17:09.28 | maquis | uhci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] |
| 17:09.56 | maquis | i don't think it's supposed to be locking up my giant |
| 17:12.40 | hans_ | tensai: ping |
| 17:15.24 | maquis | haha |
| 17:15.49 | maquis | there are people dressed up like expired bus passes, and people carrying big "bring back free bus passes" signs! |
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| 17:22.50 | SpecialZ | They really shot themselves in the foot in the way of traffic management on the whole bus thing. |
| 17:23.18 | SpecialZ | ~duck maquis |
| 17:23.20 | ibot | ACTION gives maquis a fuzzy, ugly little duckling, which immediately grows into a full sized swan and pummels maquis with it's big white wings. |
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| 18:07.14 | vontrapp | ~hug xmpp4r |
| 18:07.15 | ibot | ACTION hugs xmpp4r |
| 18:18.07 | maquis | any freebsd gurus out there? |
| 18:18.16 | maquis | i'm stuck while trying to install |
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| 18:19.46 | xbmodder_lappy | hey all |
| 18:19.47 | xbmodder_lappy | sup? |
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| 18:29.24 | maquis | hans: do you know freebsd? |
| 18:29.37 | hans | not personally |
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| 18:31.31 | harleypig | Yay! I'm back! |
| 18:33.40 | emcnabb | welcome back |
| 18:34.32 | harleypig | thanks ... the system I was using died and I was trying to decide h ow to get back. |
| 18:34.49 | harleypig | Finally decided to install irssi on my linode and just stay ssh'd in. |
| 18:34.57 | harleypig | Interesting client. |
| 18:35.06 | harleypig | YA thing to learn. |
| 18:35.51 | harleypig | On the bright side, I should level fster in idlerpg now. :> |
| 18:38.35 | harleypig | Uh ... anyone know how to switch windows in irssi? |
| 18:38.43 | harleypig | not finding it in the docs. |
| 18:39.19 | maquis | harleypig: alt-number or esc number |
| 18:41.17 | harleypig | Thanks. I tried alt-# but that wasn't working. didn't think to try esc-#. |
| 18:46.16 | maquis | harleypig: are you on putty or something/ |
| 18:48.00 | harleypig | No, I'm using SecureCRT at the moment. |
| 18:48.09 | harleypig | I'd prefer putty, but this is a temp machine. |
| 18:48.19 | maquis | secureCRT? is that another windows-ssh option? |
| 18:50.02 | harleypig | yeah |
| 18:50.09 | maquis | cool! |
| 18:50.31 | harleypig | I don't like it much ... first, it's not free; second, I can't figure out how to make it use my console colours. |
| 18:50.39 | maquis | ick |
| 18:51.49 | maquis | harleypig: where do you work? |
| 18:52.16 | harleypig | Smooth$ellin |
| 18:52.32 | harleypig | we're a consignment store that sells stuff for people on ebay, in AF |
| 18:52.42 | maquis | why on ebay? |
| 18:52.44 | maquis | ebay is evil |
| 18:52.47 | maquis | sell on amazon! |
| 18:53.21 | harleypig | ?! They're both evil. |
| 18:53.36 | harleypig | The programming has been fun though. |
| 18:53.37 | maquis | amazon's cool |
| 18:53.55 | maquis | (amazon's going to be paying the bills once i graduate) |
| 18:54.36 | harleypig | How? |
| 18:55.38 | maquis | i'm moving back to seattle and working for them :) |
| 18:55.48 | harleypig | Cool. |
| 18:56.07 | maquis | just over 11 months til i start :) |
| 18:56.13 | harleypig | When we get to the point of expanding our software to Amazon and Yahoo! I'll have to look you up. :> |
| 18:56.19 | maquis | :) |
| 18:56.32 | maquis | i'll probably still come visit #utah |
| 18:57.25 | harleypig | Well, that is in the "wouldn't it be cool" list |
| 18:57.36 | maquis | :) |
| 18:57.43 | maquis | i understand... |
| 18:57.58 | maquis | masquerade! |
| 19:01.39 | maquis | past... the point of no return... no backward glances, our games of make believe are at an end...... |
| 19:05.04 | maquis | "the bridge is crossed, so stand and watch it burn......." |
| 19:08.17 | maquis | keep your hand at the level of your eye |
| 19:12.46 | tensai | elg: pong |
| 19:12.58 | tensai | elg: http://www.zmonkey.org/~tensai/tmp/url.rb |
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| 19:16.36 | maquis | tensai: how's life? |
| 19:25.08 | tensai | maquis: good enough. spent the morning at a merit badge pow wow. now it's time to clean up the garden. |
| 19:26.59 | maquis | fun |
| 19:43.17 | xbmodder_lappy | hey all |
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| 19:48.25 | colera | anyone been having lag issues with freenode recently? |
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| 20:43.37 | roscivs | Is there anything like HashMap in Java but for primitive types? |
| 20:45.25 | roscivs | still no luck with that maquis? |
| 20:45.36 | roscivs | that hdc thing seems quite bizarre. |
| 20:46.03 | roscivs | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:46.19 | maquis | roscivs: i think i might know what was causing that |
| 20:46.30 | xbmodder_lappy | maquis, what problem are you having? |
| 20:46.58 | maquis | my computer has some weird things involving spots where it claims something is /dev/hda when it's really /dev/sda, and yet things work fine... or something |
| 20:47.08 | xbmodder_lappy | lol |
| 20:47.13 | xbmodder_lappy | thats odd... |
| 20:47.13 | maquis | i really don't understand it, but i think my cd drive is probably actually /dev/sdc |
| 20:47.18 | maquis | xbmodder_lappy: here's the problem |
| 20:47.50 | maquis | i burn a cd, and when i try to check the md5sum of the disk, it gives me IO error after spending 5 minutes looking at the cd rom |
| 20:48.15 | xbmodder_lappy | is this SCSI or ATAPI API? |
| 20:50.51 | maquis | xbmodder_lappy: well... i've done it on a number of differnet computers now |
| 20:51.12 | xbmodder_lappy | can you burn any other CDs? |
| 20:51.13 | maquis | i've had the burn/IO error problem on 3 different computers |
| 20:51.26 | maquis | xbmodder_lappy: i've burnt cds in every other computer |
| 20:51.41 | maquis | i'm beginning to wonder if for some reason it's not checking the md5sum correctly |
| 20:51.59 | maquis | i'm just sticking the cd in, and then running 'md5sum /dev/cdrom' |
| 20:52.39 | maquis | the thing is, i've burned on all 3 computers |
| 20:52.46 | maquis | and *none* of them are working |
| 20:52.52 | maquis | which makes me wonder if i'm just stupid or what |
| 20:53.09 | maquis | because the md5sum before the burn is exactly what it's supposed to be |
| 20:53.28 | xbmodder_lappy | thats really odd. |
| 20:53.36 | xbmodder_lappy | did you try to rebuild the CD? |
| 20:53.42 | maquis | rebuild? |
| 20:54.00 | xbmodder_lappy | eyah |
| 20:54.01 | xbmodder_lappy | yeah |
| 20:54.06 | xbmodder_lappy | mount it over loop |
| 20:54.10 | maquis | no |
| 20:54.11 | xbmodder_lappy | and mkisofs again |
| 20:54.27 | maquis | would that make a difference |
| 20:54.27 | maquis | ? |
| 20:54.29 | xbmodder_lappy | that may be a desperate attempt. |
| 20:54.44 | xbmodder_lappy | they may have used a broken mkisofs |
| 20:54.54 | maquis | it seems like if the md5sum checks out, it shouln't have issues |
| 20:57.03 | maquis | so... 'mount -o iso location'??? |
| 20:57.28 | xbmodder_lappy | yeah |
| 20:57.34 | xbmodder_lappy | make sure that works |
| 20:57.42 | roscivs | mount -o loop iso location |
| 20:58.06 | maquis | roscivs: cool |
| 20:58.51 | maquis | mount: could not find any device /dev/loop# |
| 20:59.37 | xbmodder_lappy | modprobe loop |
| 21:00.59 | maquis | doh |
| 21:01.17 | spr | maquis, your kernel may not have loopback device support |
| 21:01.24 | maquis | spr: possible |
| 21:01.40 | maquis | i'm going to try and see if *any* of my boxen do... and if not, i'll have to add it to one of them |
| 21:02.16 | maquis | unfortunately, i can't seem to get osiris to let me configure his kernel, so it'd have to be one of the other boxen... probably anubis |
| 21:03.19 | maquis | xbmodder_lappy: so... now i want to mkisofs the location that i mounted it to? |
| 21:03.38 | xbmodder_lappy | no... |
| 21:03.44 | maquis | j0 |
| 21:03.46 | maquis | er |
| 21:03.48 | maquis | no? |
| 21:04.46 | xbmodder_lappy | see you gotta make a boot iso |
| 21:04.52 | maquis | yeah |
| 21:05.56 | xbmodder_lappy | btw: why do you need to burn these? |
| 21:06.18 | maquis | xbmodder_lappy: because i'm trying to get the installer to boot |
| 21:07.05 | xbmodder_lappy | umm did you try netboot |
| 21:07.14 | maquis | no |
| 21:07.36 | maquis | i figured that cds would be easier |
| 21:08.25 | xbmodder_lappy | mkisofs -b (eltorito boot img) |
| 21:10.26 | xbmodder_lappy | mkisofs -b (eltorito boot img) -c (catalog) -J -r -T -o /tmp/new.iso (location of mount) |
| 21:10.33 | xbmodder_lappy | maquis, where'd you download this ISO? |
| 21:11.05 | maquis | freebsd.org |
| 21:12.34 | JoshH | maquis: the odds of the cd being corrupted are pretty low, just try to boot off it |
| 21:12.57 | maquis | JoshH: the reason i was messing with this is that the original cd wouldn't boot |
| 21:12.59 | maquis | but i'll try |
| 21:13.12 | xbmodder_lappy | JoshH, this is xbmodder_lappy |
| 21:13.39 | JoshH | did it start to boot and then panic, or not even boot off the cd at all? |
| 21:14.25 | maquis | it started, and then just hung part way through the boot |
| 21:14.25 | xbmodder_lappy | not at all. |
| 21:14.32 | JoshH | what part did it hang at? |
| 21:14.33 | xbmodder_lappy | oh. |
| 21:14.57 | maquis | usually it hung while setting up the USB ports... once while trying to set up PCI |
| 21:15.23 | JoshH | have you tried booting the same cd in a different box? |
| 21:15.24 | maquis | JoshH: when i boot with verbose logging: |
| 21:15.31 | maquis | uhci0: <Intel 82801CA/CA< (ICH3) USB controller USB-A> port 0xefe0-0xefff irq 11 at device 29.0 on pci0 |
| 21:15.38 | maquis | uhci0: Reserved 0x20 bytes for rid 0x20 type 4 at 0xefe0 |
| 21:15.43 | maquis | uhci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] |
| 21:15.50 | JoshH | is it 5.4? |
| 21:15.55 | maquis | JoshH: yup |
| 21:16.02 | maquis | and no, i haven't tried it in a different box |
| 21:16.39 | JoshH | try that real quick, ive booted 5.4 cd's in dozens of different frankenboxes. sometimes booting with acpi off can fix various problems, have you tried that? |
| 21:16.42 | findlay | maquis: still having trouble with your buggy CD drive? |
| 21:16.51 | maquis | JoshH: i tried with acpi off |
| 21:16.52 | JoshH | maybe try disable usb in the bios too until after its installed |
| 21:17.03 | maquis | that's when it died at enabling PCI instead of lasting til USB |
| 21:17.09 | JoshH | lol |
| 21:17.28 | maquis | JoshH: i have horrid luck when it comes to computers |
| 21:17.38 | maquis | findlay: i don't think the drive's buggy... but i could be wrong |
| 21:19.05 | JoshH | you could always try 6.0 rc1 |
| 21:19.05 | xbmodder_lappy | GIANT-LOCKED |
| 21:19.16 | JoshH | ftp://mirrors.xmission.com/freebsd/ISO-IMAGES/6.0/6.0-RC1-i386-bootonly.iso |
| 21:19.18 | xbmodder_lappy | that sounds bad. |
| 21:19.38 | xbmodder_lappy | maquis, at least your not as bad as me |
| 21:19.46 | maquis | JoshH: i thought i'd start out with something stable since i've never used freebsd before |
| 21:19.56 | maquis | xbmodder_lappy: if you have worse luck than i do, i pity you greatly |
| 21:20.03 | JoshH | heh, it is pretty stable actually |
| 21:20.33 | maquis | JoshH: really? maybe i'll try that if this cd doesn't work |
| 21:20.46 | JoshH | ya just try that cd in a different box real quick |
| 21:21.13 | maquis | JoshH: the one i was trying before? |
| 21:21.29 | findlay | maquis: or you could try Linux, I've heard there are several distros available. One of them might work. |
| 21:21.34 | JoshH | try booting off that same cd in a different computer |
| 21:21.44 | maquis | ~lart findlay |
| 21:22.51 | findlay | but then again, that open source stuff is probably pretty sketchy because nobody warranties it |
| 21:28.04 | maquis | JoshH: it works fine on my new laptop |
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| 21:28.11 | maquis | so... what's the problem wit hmy old one then? |
| 21:28.12 | maquis | :( |
| 21:28.25 | xbmodder_lappy | bad hw |
| 21:29.49 | maquis | but... i've booted plenty of other cds on that computer |
| 21:31.11 | JoshH | hmm, try the 6.0rc1 disc then, if that doesnt work then oh well |
| 21:31.24 | maquis | "oh well"??? :( |
| 21:31.31 | maquis | i'll try the 6.0 disk |
| 21:32.43 | findlay | maquis: maybe an AOL CD is what you really want? It has the Internet on it, what more do you really need? |
| 21:32.47 | findlay | ~lart me |
| 21:32.52 | maquis | ~lart findlay |
| 21:32.59 | findlay | ooh the cutting irony |
| 21:33.23 | maquis | :) |
| 21:33.34 | JoshH | ~aol |
| 21:33.36 | ibot | aol is, like, for people who dont know the highway from the driveway, or army of losers. They are teaming up with Sony to fight |
| 21:33.53 | findlay | fight? Fight what?? |
| 21:34.05 | maquis | just to fight :) |
| 21:36.33 | hans | -restart |
| 21:36.41 | *** join/#utah brac (i=fugalh@falcon.fugal.net) |
| 21:36.49 | hans | http://google.com |
| 21:36.51 | maquis | brac: sup yo? |
| 21:36.51 | brac | yo maquis! |
| 21:37.04 | maquis | hans: did you break him? |
| 21:37.12 | hans | http://lam.fugal.net |
| 21:37.27 | maquis | hans: he's broken |
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| 21:38.09 | hans | http://google.com |
| 21:38.12 | findlay | why do people listen to sound, well, I guess, ... music that all you can hear is this asinine amplified bass guitar sound that repeats the same pitches over and over again for about 10 minutes? |
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| 21:40.24 | hans | http://google.com |
| 21:40.24 | brac | see how smart I am? |
| 21:40.35 | elg | -lart brac |
| 21:41.21 | maquis | http://freebsd.org |
| 21:41.21 | brac | see how smart I am? |
| 21:41.29 | maquis | brac: that's not very helpful |
| 21:42.05 | hans | -restart |
| 21:42.12 | *** join/#utah brac (i=fugalh@falcon.fugal.net) |
| 21:42.16 | hans | http://google.com |
| 21:42.38 | hans | -restart |
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| 21:42.50 | hans | http://google.com |
| 21:42.54 | hans | it was tensai's fault. :) |
| 21:43.09 | findlay | hans: what about http://google.com? |
| 21:44.41 | xbmodder_lappy | http://www.xbmodder.us |
| 21:45.41 | elg | -restart |
| 21:45.41 | brac | insufficient "quit" auth (have 10, need 90) |
| 21:45.51 | elg | -restart |
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| 21:46.02 | maquis | http://maquis.com |
| 21:46.03 | brac | [www.maquis.com] |
| 21:46.05 | elg | http://google.com |
| 21:46.06 | brac | [Google] |
| 21:46.10 | maquis | yay!!! |
| 21:46.44 | xbmodder_lappy | http://www.xbmodder.us |
| 21:46.45 | brac | [Xbmodder/Sargun's Site!] |
| 21:46.50 | xbmodder_lappy | :-/ |
| 21:47.51 | hans | tensai: all fixed, let me know if you want to see the debugged version |
| 21:49.39 | levi | I have returned. |
| 22:11.26 | hans | -restart |
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| 22:11.34 | *** join/#utah brac (i=fugalh@falcon.fugal.net) |
| 22:11.40 | hans | http://www.xbmodder.us |
| 22:11.57 | xbmodder_lappy | its b0rked? |
| 22:12.07 | xbmodder_lappy | http:// |
| 22:13.31 | hans | -restart |
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| 22:13.41 | xbmodder_lappy | http://www.xbmodder.us |
| 22:13.43 | brac | [Xbmodder/Sargun's Site!] |
| 22:13.51 | xbmodder_lappy | http://microsoft.com |
| 22:13.53 | brac | [Microsoft Corporation] |
| 22:16.43 | hans | -restart |
| 22:16.53 | *** join/#utah brac (i=fugalh@falcon.fugal.net) |
| 22:16.54 | hans | http://www.xbmodder.us |
| 22:16.55 | brac | [Xbmodder/Sargun's Site!] |
| 22:16.57 | tensai | hans: yes, I'd like to see it |
| 22:17.13 | xbmodder_lappy | hans, good job |
| 22:17.32 | xbmodder_lappy | hans++ |
| 22:17.48 | hans | hans.fugal.net/tmp/brac |
| 22:17.52 | tensai | http://www.zmonkey.org/ |
| 22:17.58 | brac | [zmonkey.org | Those crazy monkeys] |
| 22:18.12 | tensai | nice. it followed my redirect. :) |
| 22:18.22 | xbmodder_lappy | http://google.com:8080 |
| 22:18.40 | xbmodder_lappy | http://www.xbmodder.us:1110 |
| 22:18.43 | xbmodder_lappy | :-/ |
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| 22:19.30 | xbmodder_lappy | http://www.xbmodder.us:1110 |
| 22:19.33 | hans | briefly, it had a variable name typo, and you were doing HTTP.get instead of get_response, and you were doing URI.parse twice. |
| 22:23.43 | maquis | JoshH: ping? |
| 22:23.52 | JoshH | pong |
| 22:24.09 | maquis | JoshH: which mirrors are best for installing freebsd? |
| 22:24.12 | maquis | do you know? |
| 22:24.35 | JoshH | for cvsup? |
| 22:24.42 | maquis | ummm |
| 22:24.56 | maquis | well... i was going to tell it to install over ftp, i think |
| 22:25.03 | maquis | don't i have to give it a mirror to use? |
| 22:25.04 | maquis | or not? |
| 22:25.24 | JoshH | ive never done an ftp install, ive always just a minimal install from the bootonly iso. |
| 22:25.36 | maquis | hmmm |
| 22:25.37 | maquis | mmk |
| 22:25.38 | JoshH | but i would imagine that whatever the default mirror is should work |
| 22:25.39 | maquis | thanks |
| 22:25.41 | maquis | ok |
| 22:25.42 | JoshH | heh |
| 22:26.21 | JoshH | or just ftp.freebsd.org, its always been really fast |
| 22:27.11 | JoshH | for cvsup i use cvsup5.us.freebsd.org, it seems to be "too busy" the least |
| 22:27.34 | maquis | JoshH: that's the one i ended up deciding on |
| 22:27.46 | maquis | JoshH: cool thanks |
| 22:27.51 | maquis | how long have you run freebsd for? |
| 22:28.14 | JoshH | ive used it off and on for a few years now |
| 22:28.28 | JoshH | did you go to the last plug meeting about it? |
| 22:28.45 | JoshH | oh wait arent you working at amazon now or something |
| 22:29.06 | xbmodder_lappy | t-minus 11 months |
| 22:29.14 | maquis | JoshH: i went to the plug meeting |
| 22:29.31 | maquis | and xbmodder_lappy is right about how long i have left before starting at amazon (give or take a week or so) |
| 22:29.51 | JoshH | i always install the base system from the cd, then install everything else from ports or packages |
| 22:30.04 | JoshH | never done an ftp install of the base system, the bootonly iso is only 40 megs |
| 22:30.52 | JoshH | and it has everything you need to install. the big iso's include xorg, kde, etc packages on the discs |
| 22:32.51 | JoshH | ah, i just thought i remembered you saying you weren't in utah anymore so i thought you were up there |
| 22:33.56 | maquis | i wasn't in utah over the summer... |
| 22:34.00 | maquis | i was at amazon then |
| 22:34.26 | JoshH | i see |
| 22:34.58 | xbmodder_lappy | http://xbmodder.us/tmp/portage/ |
| 22:35.01 | xbmodder_lappy | oops wrong room |
| 22:35.02 | brac | [Index of /tmp/portage] |
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| 22:41.01 | maquis | JoshH: were you at the plug meeting last week? |
| 22:43.13 | JoshH | no |
| 22:43.16 | JoshH | i just read about it |
| 22:43.29 | maquis | mmk |
| 22:43.54 | maquis | just curious because i'm sure i knew more people there on irc than i knew in person :) |
| 22:44.54 | JoshH | the only plug meeting ive ever been to was the damian conway one |
| 22:45.12 | JoshH | and ive been to about 10 sllug meetings |
| 22:45.17 | maquis | ah... |
| 22:45.20 | JoshH | but not for a long time |
| 22:45.30 | maquis | would you come down to provo for jeff waugh? |
| 22:45.47 | JoshH | probably, that would be a cool meeting |
| 22:45.51 | maquis | cool |
| 22:46.00 | maquis | it should be happening soon.. we're waiting on confirmation for the date |
| 22:46.48 | JoshH | nice |
| 22:48.26 | maquis | JoshH: if you use ports to get things like X, are there binary packages available? |
| 22:49.11 | JoshH | yes, you could type pkg_add -r xorg, and it would download and install the binary package |
| 22:49.23 | maquis | cool |
| 22:50.42 | JoshH | there are binary packages for everything, built from the ports, about a couple weeks behind the version in ports though. |
| 22:51.01 | maquis | JoshH: yeah... i think things like X are the only things that sounds useful for... |
| 22:51.29 | maquis | does it store the fact that you originally installed it as a binary package for when you do updates? |
| 22:51.46 | JoshH | you use a tool called portupgrade to upgrade the ports and packages |
| 22:52.00 | maquis | mm hmmm |
| 22:52.02 | JoshH | by default it will use ports to upgrade it, unless you use portupgrade -P |
| 22:52.59 | JoshH | after you install the system, pkg_add -r cvsup-without-gui |
| 22:53.13 | JoshH | copy the sample ports-supfile somewhere, edit it to have a real mirror |
| 22:53.17 | JoshH | and cvsup the ports tree |
| 22:53.21 | JoshH | then you can get the latest ports and packages |
| 22:53.27 | JoshH | did the guy go over that at the meeting? |
| 22:53.33 | tensai | hans: well, I'm glad you know what's going on |
| 22:55.37 | hans | nah, I just know about ruby-doc.org :) |
| 22:55.49 | hans | you did the thinking, I just matched up the APIs |
| 23:01.32 | maquis | JoshH: "create/symlink failed, no inodes free |
| 23:01.37 | maquis | it's still going, though |
| 23:01.48 | maquis | that just doesn't look very happy |
| 23:02.41 | hans | ok, how do I find the error in a certificate I made and signed. ldap is being oh-so-helpful: |
| 23:02.45 | hans | ldap_bind: Can't contact LDAP server (81) |
| 23:02.47 | hans | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:03.04 | hans | i don't see why it would fail. furthermore, it does _not_ fail from my laptop |
| 23:03.31 | maquis | JoshH: should i kill it? |
| 23:10.13 | maquis | JoshH: help! |
| 23:10.30 | maquis | i switched to doing a minimal installation a bit back |
| 23:10.51 | maquis | but i ran out of inodes and disk space while trying to do the minimal installation, which makes me think i did something wrong |
| 23:13.25 | hans | -lart redhat |
| 23:36.25 | maquis | JoshH: things worked better when i started the install over again |
| 23:36.49 | maquis | -lart fedora |
| 23:36.56 | hans | WHYYYYY does openldap hate my certificate? this is getting really annoying |
| 23:37.18 | hans | not to mention I've locked everyone out of the server (including me) that is trying to authenticate. stupid redhat |
| 23:38.31 | maquis | hans: why'd you do that? |
| 23:38.53 | hans | because I thought I knew how to make a certificate as I've done it dozens of times |
| 23:39.26 | hans | and I forgot that redhat locks root out even though root is in /etc/{passwd,shadow} when ldap goes down |
| 23:39.41 | hans | and that stupid nscd ... won't even go there. |
| 23:50.52 | maquis | JoshH: why is /etc/X11 empty? |
| 23:51.38 | xbmodder_lappy | thats usually bad. |
| 23:52.03 | maquis | startx works.... so, X does exist |
| 23:59.21 | maquis | JoshH: trying to follow your instructions |
| 23:59.45 | maquis | i did the pkg_add -r cvsup-without-gui |