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| 00:40.01 | elg | it's here! |
| 00:40.18 | xbmodder_lappy | yeah it is. |
| 00:42.20 | mheath | I'm still having problems with the mouse =\ |
| 00:47.50 | xbmodder_lappy | not good :( |
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| 01:06.03 | fishyfire | problems with your mouse? |
| 01:08.39 | mheath | fishyfire: yeah. Solaris 10 isn't liking either my USB or PS2 mouse |
| 01:08.51 | fishyfire | ew... i'm sorry\ |
| 01:11.25 | xbmodder_lappy | mheath-- |
| 01:11.34 | xbmodder_lappy | ~karma |
| 01:11.34 | ibot | xbmodder_lappy has neutral karma |
| 01:12.37 | fishyfire | debian didn't like my usb mouse |
| 01:12.58 | xbmodder_lappy | fishyfire++ |
| 01:13.04 | xbmodder_lappy | ~karma fishyfire |
| 01:13.05 | ibot | fishyfire has neutral karma |
| 01:13.51 | xbmodder_lappy | :-/ |
| 01:13.55 | xbmodder_lappy | ~karma fishyfire |
| 01:13.55 | ibot | fishyfire has neutral karma |
| 01:13.58 | xbmodder_lappy | ~karma fishyfire++ |
| 01:13.58 | ibot | fishyfire++ has neutral karma |
| 01:16.21 | mheath | Solaris is just fishy (Pardon, fishyfire) because it seems to behave differnently from one moment to the next |
| 01:16.46 | mheath | Like, I configured it to use my serial mouse, and it worked - I could use it in their little X11 test |
| 01:16.50 | fishyfire | no offense taken |
| 01:17.05 | mheath | Then, I go to actually use X11, and it doesn't work |
| 01:17.12 | mheath | and it doesn't work in the test anymore, either |
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| 01:24.53 | graphyx | good evening |
| 01:24.56 | RyanE_ | evening |
| 01:24.59 | fishyfire | howdy |
| 01:35.08 | Tene | ~spell ettiquitte |
| 01:35.48 | xbmodder_lappy | ~spell xbmodder #I bet it'll say bladder |
| 01:35.52 | xbmodder_lappy | ~spell xbmodder |
| 01:36.01 | xbmodder_lappy | wtf? |
| 01:36.17 | graphyx | I thought it was trying to say that you need to shave.. |
| 01:36.39 | xbmodder_lappy | lol. |
| 01:36.50 | graphyx | or you are a smote subdued smarter saboteur. |
| 01:47.22 | emcnabb | I'm creating a new SSH key; would you suggest using a RSA or DSA key? (or it doesn't matter) |
| 01:48.03 | emcnabb | I don't know of any specific pros or cons with either one |
| 01:48.27 | graphyx | Just do at least 1024. |
| 01:48.32 | graphyx | 2048 isn't too bad. |
| 01:48.37 | graphyx | worst part it the time generating it. |
| 01:48.50 | emcnabb | my current key is 1024, so I'm planning on going higher with this one |
| 01:49.12 | maquis | emcnabb: hi |
| 01:49.17 | emcnabb | hello |
| 01:49.20 | graphyx | 1536? |
| 01:49.32 | Tene | I'd say DSA |
| 01:49.41 | emcnabb | Tene, why's that? |
| 01:51.19 | emcnabb | I'm looking for better reasons than "X is cool" :-) |
| 01:51.54 | emcnabb | my last key was DSA, so I'll probably go with that this time |
| 01:51.56 | maquis | emcnabb: the only reason i think rsa is cool is because i understand how it works and i know something about it... |
| 01:52.22 | emcnabb | I know, I just had to say that :-) |
| 01:52.26 | maquis | granted, in the next couple days as i start implementing rsa, my opinion of it may change, dependent upon how many annoying problems i run into :) |
| 01:52.35 | maquis | emcnabb: i figured :) |
| 01:53.00 | emcnabb | you will most likely dislike it in a few days |
| 01:53.06 | maquis | :) |
| 02:10.33 | fishyfire | bleh! premature end of script headers |
| 02:10.57 | maquis | fishyfire: ??? |
| 02:11.08 | fishyfire | my code is failing again/still |
| 02:11.56 | fishyfire | it's the same thing as one that is working, only with a couple of lines changed to reflect the change in the name of the file |
| 02:12.21 | fishyfire | but i am obviously doing something else wrong in their too |
| 02:12.55 | maquis | fishyfire: what was the script and what's it for? |
| 02:14.09 | fishyfire | i am trying to set up a script to email a form to me |
| 02:14.17 | maquis | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:14.18 | fishyfire | so i got the tfmail script thing from offline |
| 02:14.25 | maquis | fishyfire: oh... right |
| 02:14.35 | maquis | the one that's supposed to be sending an attachment, right? |
| 02:14.38 | fishyfire | yews |
| 02:14.41 | fishyfire | *yes |
| 02:14.42 | maquis | how far have you gotten on it? |
| 02:14.47 | fishyfire | well it send the attachment |
| 02:14.54 | maquis | that's good |
| 02:15.57 | graphyx | maquis: They fixed the price too low? |
| 02:16.01 | graphyx | OR they fixed it too high? |
| 02:16.09 | graphyx | I mean if this is a low price I don't want to pay full price. |
| 02:16.41 | maquis | graphyx: according to the US, they fixed it too high... according to the korean government, they fixed it too low... and they're getting fined by both sides... |
| 02:16.50 | maquis | sucks for them! |
| 02:18.03 | graphyx | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:18.45 | maquis | graphyx: the thing is... both are in relation to the prices they gave apple |
| 02:18.50 | maquis | so, i don't think it's that... |
| 02:19.06 | fishyfire | now i am trying to get two different files to go to two different results pages |
| 02:19.26 | maquis | fishyfire: clarify a bit? |
| 02:19.40 | maquis | fishyfire: did you get the message i /msg'd you? |
| 02:19.51 | fishyfire | yes, did you get my response? |
| 02:19.57 | maquis | no... |
| 02:20.14 | maquis | are you authenticated with freenode? |
| 02:22.37 | fishyfire | umm i don't think so |
| 02:22.40 | fishyfire | how do i do that? |
| 02:22.55 | maquis | have you registered your nick? |
| 02:23.09 | maquis | if not, then /msg nicserv register <password> |
| 02:23.20 | fishyfire | type that into this window? |
| 02:23.32 | maquis | yes, except it's nickserv not nicserv |
| 02:23.44 | maquis | it won't show up here, because it's a /msg |
| 02:23.50 | fishyfire | okay |
| 02:23.57 | maquis | then, once you're registered, /msg nickserv identify <password> |
| 02:24.26 | maquis | they implemented some new rules recently about the fact that you can't /msg to other users unless you're identified/authenticated |
| 02:24.44 | graphyx | cause people were irc spamming. |
| 02:24.51 | graphyx | porn garbage and such. |
| 02:26.10 | fishyfire | ick! |
| 02:26.26 | maquis | fishyfire: did you get it registered and such? |
| 02:26.51 | fishyfire | i think so... |
| 02:26.59 | fishyfire | did you get my message? |
| 02:28.04 | fishyfire | so i have 2 different forms that i am trying to get emailed information from |
| 02:28.33 | fishyfire | and i want each of the forms to have their own page that they go to when they are submitted |
| 02:29.09 | maquis | fishyfire: do you want the emails to get sent together? or do you want to use the same action-class? or... what language are you doing the scripting in? |
| 02:29.19 | fishyfire | perl |
| 02:29.27 | fishyfire | i want them to get sent separate |
| 02:29.47 | fishyfire | so what i did was took the tfmail.cgi script and copied it and renamed it |
| 02:30.03 | fishyfire | so now i have tfmailr.cgi and tfmailn.cgi |
| 02:30.22 | fishyfire | and my tfmailn.cgi works but not the ftmailr.cgi |
| 02:31.08 | fishyfire | and i kept all of the same supporting files, except i now have two different trt files, to make the two different success pages |
| 02:31.13 | fishyfire | if that makes any sense at all.... |
| 02:31.42 | fishyfire | so i don't understand why one is working, but not the other |
| 02:31.51 | fishyfire | does that make any sense to anyone else? |
| 02:32.08 | fishyfire | all it's giving me is that dumb premature end of script header file |
| 02:33.12 | fishyfire | i was trying to do it with just one tfmail.cgi file earlier.... and have an if this file do this one, and if this file do this one.... but i couldn't get that to work either |
| 02:33.14 | graphyx | fishyfire: When I get stuck on something like that I start commenting out stuff until it goes away.. |
| 02:33.55 | xbmodder_lappy | viruses are evil on linux! |
| 02:34.09 | graphyx | viruses are very hard to pull off on linux. |
| 02:34.19 | graphyx | They have to do quite a bit be evilness to even work. |
| 02:34.29 | graphyx | s/be/of being/ |
| 02:34.39 | xbmodder_lappy | well my freind compiles all his crap static -- turns out his Glibc library was infected... |
| 02:34.43 | fishyfire | the thing is i just copied the one that works, and then changed three variables in the code to match the name of the file and the name of the file i want to go to |
| 02:35.11 | graphyx | did you change the name of the variable or just the strings in them? |
| 02:35.24 | graphyx | How long is the code? |
| 02:35.56 | fishyfire | i changed these lines... |
| 02:35.56 | fishyfire | TFmailr.cgi - template and config file driven formmail CGI |
| 02:36.23 | fishyfire | # $Id: TFmailr.cgi,v 1.36 2005/06/21 20:53:46 gellyfish Exp $ |
| 02:36.38 | fishyfire | html_page($treq, $treq->config('success_page_template','returningclientpage')); |
| 02:36.38 | xbmodder_lappy | rm fishyfire |
| 02:37.21 | fishyfire | 1349 lines |
| 02:37.33 | fishyfire | xbmodder_lappy: huh? |
| 02:37.49 | graphyx | hmm... n/m don't paste it in here... ;) |
| 02:37.56 | fishyfire | LOL |
| 02:38.05 | fishyfire | yeah, that probably wouldn't be the best idea |
| 02:38.42 | fishyfire | it's the tfmail script stuff off of this website http://nms-cgi.sourceforge.net/scripts.shtml |
| 02:38.43 | brac | [nms - web programs written by experts] |
| 02:39.04 | graphyx | If I had more time I would help you troubleshoot it, but I am at work. |
| 02:39.06 | graphyx | sorry. |
| 02:39.11 | fishyfire | that's okay |
| 02:39.17 | fishyfire | thanks anyway :) |
| 02:39.30 | xbmodder_lappy | graphyx, at work? what time do you work tilll? |
| 02:39.35 | graphyx | I am back. |
| 02:39.41 | graphyx | I have been doing some overtime for a rush report. |
| 02:41.42 | xbmodder_lappy | cool. |
| 02:42.01 | maquis | graphyx: rush report? |
| 02:42.23 | graphyx | The needed a pen test done in 5 days. |
| 02:42.30 | maquis | graphyx: why so soon? |
| 02:42.32 | graphyx | So we charged them an rush fee. |
| 02:42.43 | graphyx | Wanted to get a report into a potential clients hands for a big sale. |
| 02:42.43 | maquis | hmm... not bad... how much of that do you get? |
| 02:42.49 | maquis | ah... |
| 02:42.50 | graphyx | I don't know yet. |
| 02:42.54 | graphyx | might be nothing extra. |
| 02:43.14 | xbmodder_lappy | how much was the rush fee? |
| 02:43.31 | graphyx | an extra 30% or so. |
| 02:43.37 | xbmodder_lappy | graphyx, If I wanted you to test my server as a friend could you? |
| 02:44.00 | graphyx | I have no contract stating that I can't pen test on my own. |
| 02:44.04 | fishyfire | IT WORKS! |
| 02:44.11 | graphyx | good for you fishyfire |
| 02:44.13 | maquis | xbmodder_lappy: my guess is that he could... the question is whether he "would" |
| 02:44.14 | xbmodder_lappy | g'job fish?fire |
| 02:44.16 | maquis | fishyfire: congrats! |
| 02:44.17 | fishyfire | amazing what happens when you change permissions |
| 02:44.24 | graphyx | yes indeed. |
| 02:44.31 | graphyx | we have all been there. |
| 02:44.32 | xbmodder_lappy | maquis, some corporations don't let their employees work outside of work., |
| 02:44.55 | graphyx | non competes and such. |
| 02:45.01 | graphyx | I have an non compete agreement. |
| 02:45.12 | xbmodder_lappy | ah fun. |
| 02:45.12 | graphyx | but its scope is limited to the VA for PCIDSS arena. |
| 02:45.23 | graphyx | so there is tons of security stuff outside of that. |
| 02:45.27 | graphyx | so it isn't a bid deal. |
| 02:45.37 | graphyx | I wouldn't want to work for the competition anyway. |
| 02:45.40 | graphyx | They don't do things right. |
| 02:46.22 | xbmodder_lappy | they are mainly afraid of you becoming the competition |
| 02:46.34 | graphyx | doubt it. |
| 02:46.51 | graphyx | You have to do a ton of paper work and effort to get into the business. |
| 02:49.02 | xbmodder_lappy | my question: how much does your firm make? |
| 02:49.24 | mrpull | grrr... i couldn't resist downloading itunes 6 |
| 02:49.28 | mrpull | now it is broken |
| 02:49.30 | graphyx | We are doing well. |
| 02:49.52 | graphyx | we have more than doubled our last years revenue. |
| 02:49.59 | graphyx | but the specific value is sensitive data of course. |
| 02:50.58 | graphyx | but 5$ is more than double $2. |
| 02:51.03 | graphyx | so it isn't saying much at all. |
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| 02:51.08 | graphyx | ;) |
| 02:55.54 | xbmodder_lappy | graphyx, are you worth more than Tajay inc (11 million) |
| 02:56.53 | graphyx | personally, I think I am. =) |
| 02:57.04 | graphyx | I am not sure of the company's full value. |
| 02:57.12 | graphyx | cause our potential is increasing every day. |
| 02:57.29 | xbmodder_lappy | hehe |
| 02:57.39 | graphyx | so our current revenue might be insignificant compared to what it will be in 6 months. |
| 02:57.57 | xbmodder_lappy | Why do females have so many more mental problems than males? |
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| 02:58.01 | xbmodder_lappy | graphyx, cool. |
| 02:58.04 | xbmodder_lappy | emcnabb, hey sup? |
| 02:58.12 | graphyx | xbmodder_lappy: Cause they have to put up with us? |
| 02:58.19 | xbmodder_lappy | lol |
| 02:59.04 | Tene | xbm: actually, I seem to remember hearing that a much larger percentage of males have mental problems than females. |
| 02:59.20 | graphyx | Tene: It's cause we have to put up with them. |
| 02:59.34 | xbmodder_lappy | Tene, according to my school project females are twice as likely to have mental issues. |
| 02:59.40 | Tene | Huh. |
| 02:59.47 | Tene | I guess I was misinformed. |
| 02:59.58 | graphyx | we all know how correct statistics are. |
| 03:00.03 | Tene | although what is considered a 'mental issue' in this case? |
| 03:01.12 | xbmodder_lappy | insanity, depression, self-injury |
| 03:01.42 | graphyx | becoming insanely depressed. |
| 03:01.53 | xbmodder_lappy | and hurting yourself? |
| 03:01.58 | graphyx | There you go.. |
| 03:02.12 | graphyx | spoken like a true sadist. |
| 03:02.19 | maquis | Tene: if you include things like bulimia/anorexia as being mental issues (which they are, in most cases), then i think xbmodder_lappy is correct on that |
| 03:05.14 | xbmodder_lappy | :( |
| 03:05.18 | xbmodder_lappy | emcnabb, hey you there? |
| 03:05.39 | xbmodder_lappy | About 2 times as many females as males report or receive treatment for clinical depression, though this imbalance is shrinking over the course of recent history; this difference seems to completely disappear after the age of 50 - 55, when most females have passed the end of menopause. |
| 03:06.30 | emcnabb | xbmodder_lappy, yes |
| 03:08.54 | maquis | one friend had her parents threatening to pull her out of school if she didn't get above 85 lbs (this was during senior year of high school) |
| 03:09.25 | xbmodder_lappy | emcnabb, you know that huge directory of media you have on your site? |
| 03:09.46 | emcnabb | of funny stuff? |
| 03:09.56 | emcnabb | that's the only "media" I have |
| 03:10.00 | graphyx | emcnabb: Do you know James Carroll? |
| 03:10.09 | xbmodder_lappy | maquis, that does suck. |
| 03:10.21 | xbmodder_lappy | emcnabb, yeah. |
| 03:10.42 | emcnabb | graphyx, I know I do from somewhere... I can't map the name to a face though... ugh |
| 03:11.07 | emcnabb | xbmodder_lappy, yes, I know about it |
| 03:11.10 | xbmodder_lappy | I want to mirror them. |
| 03:11.23 | xbmodder_lappy | for my content distrubution system |
| 03:11.29 | xbmodder_lappy | they'd be the ideal canidate. |
| 03:11.32 | emcnabb | over DNS? |
| 03:11.42 | xbmodder_lappy | no |
| 03:11.55 | xbmodder_lappy | we are putting together a free bit torrentish system |
| 03:12.07 | xbmodder_lappy | but it has the ability to strem |
| 03:12.15 | xbmodder_lappy | sed s/strem/stream |
| 03:12.20 | emcnabb | who is "we"? |
| 03:12.32 | xbmodder_lappy | me, nick. and atheme (our sponsor) |
| 03:13.50 | emcnabb | well, the stuff in there isn't very interesting |
| 03:14.26 | emcnabb | it's true |
| 03:14.33 | emcnabb | just funny movies, pictures, etc |
| 03:15.19 | xbmodder_lappy | the DNS system was deemed to in-efficent. |
| 03:15.24 | xbmodder_lappy | emcnabb, would you let me? |
| 03:15.34 | xbmodder_lappy | or like me to? |
| 03:15.36 | graphyx | I hope you have pulled those records already. |
| 03:16.46 | emcnabb | the DNS system was just stupid |
| 03:16.58 | emcnabb | I can't believe you even started messing with it |
| 03:17.01 | xbmodder_lappy | graphyx, they are off the server |
| 03:17.11 | xbmodder_lappy | still in caches. |
| 03:17.24 | graphyx | I know how the cache works.. |
| 03:17.25 | emcnabb | so stupid |
| 03:17.36 | xbmodder_lappy | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:17.43 | graphyx | but just as long as you don't propagate them further. |
| 03:17.45 | xbmodder_lappy | sorry! |
| 03:17.56 | xbmodder_lappy | i was bored. |
| 03:17.59 | graphyx | they should vanish sooner or later. |
| 03:18.00 | xbmodder_lappy | it was a fun hack. |
| 03:18.06 | graphyx | it was a cool hack. |
| 03:18.12 | graphyx | But should have been kept internal to a network. |
| 03:18.14 | graphyx | not public. |
| 03:18.20 | xbmodder_lappy | graphyx, i think bind automatically clears after 24 hrs. |
| 03:18.29 | xbmodder_lappy | graphyx, I needed testers. |
| 03:18.29 | graphyx | depends on how you set it up. |
| 03:19.01 | emcnabb | xbmodder_lappy, I think I'll pass for now |
| 03:19.13 | maquis | emcnabb: they're funny... that makes them cool :) |
| 03:19.19 | maquis | and they're great on a bad day |
| 03:20.46 | graphyx | ok what is the link? |
| 03:21.10 | xbmodder_lappy | graphyx, http://evan.mcnabbs.org/funny/images-movies |
| 03:21.11 | brac | [401 Authorization Required] |
| 03:21.14 | xbmodder_lappy | but he hides them |
| 03:21.15 | xbmodder_lappy | :9 |
| 03:21.17 | xbmodder_lappy | :( |
| 03:21.18 | maquis | graphyx: you'll have to get emcnabb to give you the login info and such (or you could pentest it)... :) |
| 03:21.19 | xbmodder_lappy | *cry* |
| 03:21.30 | graphyx | I don't pen test without permission. |
| 03:21.34 | xbmodder_lappy | lol. |
| 03:21.34 | graphyx | besides who is going to pay me.. |
| 03:21.40 | xbmodder_lappy | double lol, |
| 03:22.04 | maquis | graphyx: well.. .i was assuming that hte pentesting would be with-permission... |
| 03:22.09 | maquis | as for pay...... i don't know... |
| 03:22.42 | elg | -fortune |
| 03:22.42 | brac | In the stairway of life, you'd best take the elevator. |
| 03:22.54 | elg | -roulette |
| 03:22.55 | brac | elg: chamber 1 of 6 => +click+ |
| 03:23.09 | elg | -rps dynamite |
| 03:23.10 | brac | incorrect usage: roshambo <rock|paper|scissors> => play roshambo |
| 03:23.18 | graphyx | ok that one is great. |
| 03:23.19 | graphyx | http://evan.mcnabbs.org/funny/images-movies/women/images/LifeExpl.jpg |
| 03:23.20 | brac | [401 Authorization Required] |
| 03:23.46 | maquis | graphyx: did you see the one about going shopping to get a pair of pants from gap? |
| 03:23.54 | graphyx | yes |
| 03:24.05 | fishyfire | ? |
| 03:24.09 | maquis | :) |
| 03:24.13 | maquis | so true... :) |
| 03:24.46 | emcnabb | if anyone one wants the username and passwd, just /msg me |
| 03:24.49 | emcnabb | I'll give it to you |
| 03:24.58 | maquis | fishyfire: it's a comparison of a man and a woman's method of accomplishing the task: "go to gap, buy a pair of pants" |
| 03:25.21 | fishyfire | LOL |
| 03:25.29 | maquis | fishyfire: you have to go see it |
| 03:25.41 | fishyfire | headed there... |
| 03:25.49 | emcnabb | it's all the random movies, pictures, etc that people have sent me over the years |
| 03:27.33 | graphyx | arg..they give me 8 ips to test. |
| 03:27.38 | graphyx | 2 only have NTP running. |
| 03:27.48 | graphyx | and 2 others are completely closed. |
| 03:27.55 | graphyx | How is that suppose to be any fun? |
| 03:29.00 | graphyx | well I'll run the scan against them tonight and do some more on that one saturday. |
| 03:29.05 | graphyx | Well it's been real. |
| 03:29.06 | graphyx | ttyls |
| 03:29.10 | graphyx | ttyl |
| 03:29.21 | maquis | ttyl |
| 03:29.24 | fishyfire | ttyl |
| 03:29.44 | fishyfire | lol the gap one is good |
| 03:30.12 | maquis | :) |
| 03:32.00 | xbmodder_lappy | lol |
| 03:34.31 | emcnabb | I like the 'man of the year' awards |
| 03:35.54 | emcnabb | the signs section is good too |
| 03:36.09 | maquis | man of the year is *hilarious* |
| 03:37.21 | maquis | emcnabb: today in my bio class, the prof showed a movie of a cat trying to jump over one of those little fences that you can stick in a doorway... and his back legs didn't quite go over, and he went tumbling... it was sad, but very funny |
| 03:58.26 | mheath | Why do modern computer gamers suck so much? |
| 03:59.12 | mheath | It's less "Hey. Cool game. lets spend a little entertaining ourselves, and have some fun!" and more "I feel the need to make myself feel superior to you by calling you 'n00b!' and saying things like 'u suck!!!!!' as many times as possible" |
| 03:59.37 | maquis | mheath: :) |
| 04:01.32 | xbmodder_lappy | The creator of dilbert lives down the street from my friend. |
| 04:01.34 | mheath | I've decided that first person shooter players are better in this respect that strategy games |
| 04:01.50 | mheath | *than strategy game players |
| 04:02.32 | xbmodder_lappy | mheath, I like halo?, splinter cell, and enemy-territory |
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| 04:02.59 | xbmodder_lappy | i used to be into RPGs and RTSs but the people who play them are kinda dumb (dumber than I) |
| 04:03.10 | mheath | xbmodder_lappy: erm, great for you? O.o |
| 04:04.31 | xbmodder_lappy | mheath, my thoughts |
| 04:05.13 | xbmodder_lappy | Hmm according some shrinks Geeks are good listeners |
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| 04:11.39 | xbmodder_lappy | mheath, do you have any friends? |
| 04:11.49 | xbmodder_lappy | *that are on IRC |
| 04:20.20 | maquis | http://addictinggames.com/tobby.html |
| 04:20.22 | brac | [Tobby - Presented by Addicting Games] |
| 04:21.01 | maquis | i suck at this game |
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| 04:29.06 | xbmodder_lappy | how do you play? |
| 04:30.46 | maquis | ok... |
| 04:31.08 | maquis | xbmodder_lappy: you try to balance the guy, while catching the diamonds... that's what it says at the bottom of the screen, at least |
| 04:31.12 | maquis | it's *HARD* |
| 04:31.19 | maquis | question for people |
| 04:31.25 | xbmodder_lappy | OUCHY |
| 04:31.27 | maquis | got a friend who's been working with php... |
| 04:31.53 | maquis | she's trying to set it up on her home machine (winXP), and sje |
| 04:32.02 | maquis | s gettomg some help from me on it... |
| 04:32.15 | maquis | would it be esaier/better/etc to use IIS or install apache? |
| 04:32.47 | levi | Beats me. |
| 04:42.32 | maquis | xbmodder_lappy: you enjoying the game? |
| 04:43.39 | xbmodder_lappy | i gave up. |
| 04:43.50 | maquis | already? |
| 04:43.53 | xbmodder_lappy | maquis, apache=easier |
| 04:44.10 | maquis | xbmodder_lappy: mmk |
| 04:44.16 | maquis | that's what i was guessing, since i don't know iis at all |
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| 04:48.32 | fishyfire | what's your highscore? |
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| 04:49.26 | maquis | fishyfire: on? |
| 04:49.34 | maquis | tobby? |
| 04:49.52 | maquis | 12*** (where *** are numbers i can't remember) |
| 04:50.08 | xbmodder_lappy | i got like 0 |
| 04:50.12 | fishyfire | yeah, on tobby |
| 04:50.25 | maquis | i've gotten to the toshiba sign |
| 04:51.21 | maquis | it's amazingly hard |
| 04:53.14 | fishyfire | wahoo! ii got to level 2 |
| 05:05.13 | fishyfire | sweet... except i don't understand all the foreign words |
| 05:05.26 | fishyfire | i was able to make it to the end |
| 05:08.12 | mheath | agh, my mouth hurts =\ |
| 05:08.54 | fishyfire | ? |
| 05:09.18 | mheath | I've got these two weird whitish spots on the inside of my lower lip |
| 05:09.42 | mheath | They're really sensitive....and they've been here for like 4 days and show no sign of going away |
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| 05:10.43 | maquis | mheath: do you have braces? |
| 05:11.58 | xbmodder_lappy | no. |
| 05:12.11 | mheath | maquis: no |
| 05:12.25 | mheath | maquis: but the iritation feels like it did when I had braces |
| 05:12.29 | mheath | very comparable |
| 05:12.32 | mheath | Only those weird white spots... |
| 05:12.38 | maquis | mheath: mmk... just checking |
| 05:13.13 | maquis | that's weird... |
| 05:13.15 | Newsome | canker sores...blah |
| 05:13.31 | mheath | Newsome: nothing like canker sores |
| 05:13.42 | mheath | Not as irritating (and irritating in a different way) |
| 05:14.02 | mheath | plus all the canker sores I've had have been weird bump-type things |
| 05:14.08 | mheath | These are slightly sunken in white spots |
| 05:14.08 | Newsome | hmm...must be tongue cancer then...you been chewing tobacco? :) |
| 05:14.25 | mheath | Heh. |
| 05:14.34 | Newsome | okay, I guess I missed the beginning |
| 05:14.54 | maquis | fishyfire: you made it to the end/ |
| 05:15.12 | fishyfire | yeah, once i got the hang of it i was able to beat it |
| 05:15.23 | fishyfire | level 8 was kinda hard though |
| 05:15.28 | maquis | (sorry... i got side-tracked... trying to talk my friend through the setup of apache on a windoze box |
| 05:15.31 | maquis | wow |
| 05:16.05 | fishyfire | i did hit the continue button... so once i was to that level and died it let me start at that level |
| 05:16.14 | maquis | nice |
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| 05:41.58 | scott_ | in the movies terminals always have cool animations, fonts, and sweet colors and stuff. I'm always surprised no one has ever come up with a real terminal emulator with sweet animations and graphics and stuff |
| 05:43.41 | levi | Isn't that what Enlightenment is all about? |
| 05:46.27 | scott_ | Enlightenment is sweet, but it doesn't do anything to spiffy up the terminal |
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| 05:47.13 | levi | What kind of spiffiness do you want in a terminal? |
| 05:47.51 | scott_ | everything that's possible man |
| 05:47.57 | scott_ | when new text comes on the screen it could fade in |
| 05:48.15 | scott_ | progress bars and such (all the strings that are common) could be animated and replaced with graphics |
| 05:48.21 | scott_ | fonts should be able to be textured |
| 05:48.45 | levi | That's crazy talk, man. :) |
| 05:48.49 | scott_ | why? |
| 05:49.44 | maquis | why in the world??? |
| 05:49.48 | maquis | it's the terminal |
| 05:49.58 | levi | Terminals are supposed to be plain text. |
| 05:50.08 | maquis | yeah |
| 05:50.23 | scott_ | terminals AREN'T plain text |
| 05:50.37 | scott_ | I see a blue bar here in irssi |
| 05:52.07 | maquis | scott_: if you want to go play with your terminal, i won't stop you... but it probably won't end up on my terminal... :) |
| 05:53.40 | scott_ | oh, it would |
| 05:53.58 | scott_ | that's like saying you don't want color in your terminal |
| 05:54.13 | scott_ | or nice fonts |
| 05:55.05 | maquis | gah |
| 05:56.06 | maquis | why won't my computer give me some sort of error |
| 05:56.11 | maquis | rather than dying silently? |
| 05:56.21 | xbmodder_lappy | What do you say when someone like 1.5 years younger than he has a huge crush on you? |
| 05:57.14 | Newsome | plug in some external speakers? |
| 05:57.49 | xbmodder_lappy | hehe. |
| 05:58.10 | Newsome | what is dying silently? |
| 05:59.43 | xbmodder_lappy | dying with no errors? |
| 06:08.07 | maquis | Newsome: httpd |
| 06:08.12 | maquis | when i try to start it, it just fails |
| 06:08.28 | maquis | it's not writing anything to /var/log/httpd/error_log |
| 06:08.36 | maquis | it's not writing anything to the terminal |
| 06:08.48 | maquis | excpt "starting httpd [failed]" |
| 06:11.03 | Newsome | can you start it manually in debug mode? httpd -X |
| 06:11.30 | Newsome | or run the syntax test: httpd -t |
| 06:11.31 | maquis | Newsome: cool... that gave me an error :) |
| 06:11.32 | maquis | yay! |
| 06:12.23 | maquis | and that fixed it |
| 06:12.26 | maquis | thanks!!! |
| 06:12.31 | Newsome | no problem! :) |
| 06:12.37 | maquis | it was a stupid error |
| 06:12.49 | maquis | LoadModule php4_module modules/libphp5.so |
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| 06:24.01 | levi | Urg, php. |
| 06:24.42 | levi | I just deleted about 10Gb of mp3s. |
| 06:25.38 | levi | And at least 1Gb of .deb files. |
| 06:27.53 | xbmodder_lappy | wow |
| 06:28.01 | xbmodder_lappy | I am watching zoolander |
| 06:28.06 | xbmodder_lappy | its frickin' awesome. |
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| 12:59.27 | elg | -fortune |
| 12:59.27 | brac | You will be traveling and coming into a fortune. |
| 12:59.37 | elg | you pick the lamest fortunes |
| 12:59.39 | elg | -fortune |
| 12:59.39 | brac | Don't read everything you believe. |
| 12:59.49 | elg | -weather |
| 12:59.49 | brac | I don't know where you are yet! Lookup your code at http://www.nws.noaa.gov/tg/siteloc.shtml and tell me 'weather <code>', then I'll know. |
| 12:59.55 | elg | -weather klru |
| 12:59.56 | brac | The weather stored for KLRU could not be parsed (KLRU 141229Z AUTO RMK AO2 PWINO) |
| 13:00.15 | elg | ~say -weather kvpu |
| 13:00.18 | ibot | -weather kvpu |
| 13:00.19 | brac | couldn't find weather data for KVPU |
| 13:00.24 | mheath | brac: you suck |
| 13:00.27 | elg | brilliant |
| 13:03.32 | elg | looks like the NWS is on vacation |
| 13:07.37 | mheath | ~lart NOAA |
| 13:38.59 | graphyx | morning. |
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| 14:00.07 | elg | -weather |
| 14:00.08 | brac | The weather stored for KLRU could not be parsed (KLRU 141329Z AUTO RMK AO2 PWINO) |
| 14:00.22 | elg | ~say -weather |
| 14:00.24 | ibot | -weather |
| 14:00.25 | brac | couldn't find weather data for KVPU |
| 14:00.31 | elg | sigh |
| 14:03.11 | graphyx | elg: recursive failure? |
| 14:03.53 | elg | "The requested URL /pub/data/observations/metar/stations/KVPU.TXT was not found on this server." |
| 14:04.34 | elg | KLRU 141329Z AUTO RMK AO2 PWINO is not normal either. NWS's site says "observation not available" (last observation was at midnight, it seems) |
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| 14:18.41 | stderr | hmph |
| 14:19.01 | stderr | someone else has this nick reg'ed and couldn't join #python unless I was identified. |
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| 14:25.07 | xbmodder | morning |
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| 14:36.56 | goozbach | is it too much to ask to be called "off my rocker" legetimatly |
| 14:36.58 | goozbach | ? |
| 14:37.12 | graphyx | goozbach: You are off your rocker. |
| 14:37.21 | graphyx | That what you want? |
| 14:37.52 | goozbach | graphyx: you REALLY know that however? |
| 14:38.19 | sjansen | I work with goozbach and so far I only suspect it. |
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| 14:54.46 | sjansen | Whoa, suddenly I can't keep my eyes open. |
| 14:55.38 | tensai | sjansen: I see my drug has finally taken effect. soon you will be under my control. muhahahahaha |
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| 15:03.23 | tensai | heh. active directory is pathetic. |
| 15:04.15 | tensai | by default I can log in as anonymous but can't read any object. it does tell me when an object doesn't exist though. |
| 15:04.30 | maquis | tensai: cool |
| 15:05.07 | tensai | so I can guess the path, which is useful because I didn't know my fqdn. so I snooped it out and now I can bind to it. |
| 15:05.27 | maquis | w00t |
| 15:05.42 | maquis | got 90% on my cs330 test last week! |
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| 15:07.12 | xbmodder_school | hey |
| 15:07.53 | maquis | ~study xbmodder_school |
| 15:08.16 | xbmodder_school | i am listening to the teacher talk about being bored. |
| 15:08.36 | RyanE_ | now *that's* recursive. |
| 15:08.53 | xbmodder_school | RyanE: hehe |
| 15:10.17 | xbmodder_school | I am so tired. |
| 15:10.28 | xbmodder_school | stop getting 5-6 hrs of sleep! |
| 15:10.33 | xbmodder_school | ack. no! |
| 15:10.42 | xbmodder_school | yes, you are a teenager you need to. |
| 15:10.53 | xbmodder_school | no no no. When will I do all my junk? |
| 15:11.02 | xbmodder_school | In the day manage your time better. |
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| 15:13.18 | xbmodder_school | lalal |
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| 15:15.44 | h|barbobot | stderr: wtf was that? |
| 15:15.54 | h|barbobot | i warned him i was gonna do it when he left |
| 15:16.10 | stderr | h|barbobot: bring it to EFNet |
| 15:16.12 | stderr | I'll explain |
| 15:17.11 | stderr | well |
| 15:17.13 | stderr | there's nothing to be explained |
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| 15:20.11 | h|barbobot | haha well yeah i was just saying, it was ghey |
| 15:20.40 | sjansen | ~hug ocremix |
| 15:20.41 | ibot | ACTION hugs ocremix |
| 15:21.12 | h|barbobot | oh well ill be around this server |
| 15:21.13 | h|barbobot | see ya |
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| 15:22.29 | graphyx | stderr: What was that about? |
| 15:24.16 | stderr | private matters |
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| 15:31.49 | graphyx | l |
| 15:31.50 | graphyx | k |
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| 16:04.26 | tensai | ~lart mail admins who forget to whitelist their spam filters |
| 16:11.16 | graphyx | so who has used ruby on rails? |
| 16:11.22 | graphyx | it is really all the jazz it up about? |
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| 16:14.23 | mrpull- | graphyx: there are a few pluggers that actually contribute to ROR |
| 16:14.36 | mrpull- | i forget who... maybe look at the past meetings |
| 16:14.51 | mrpull- | i think hans is very comfortable with ROR |
| 16:16.11 | maquis | ~lart ECS |
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| 16:16.28 | tensai | graphyx: I tried it out once. http://www.zmonkey.org/blog/node/50 |
| 16:16.33 | brac | [Ruby on Rails | zmonkey.org] |
| 16:18.09 | zekeonfire | Hello all, I have a question: How does one find out what is being downloaded over Bittorrent to a specific machine on the network? I'm capturing all of the packets, I just want to know what the files are. |
| 16:18.17 | sjansen | The president of URUG is a 37signals employee and the third person to get commit access to rails cvs. |
| 16:25.28 | tensai | zekeonfire: I think you'd have to intercept the .torrent or maybe just the tracker info. some trackers will tell you what files they have if you connect. |
| 16:27.30 | zekeonfire | Thanks tensai, I'm sorry if this is stupid, I've just never used bittorrent other than downloading some Gentoo ISOs, but do I connect to the trackers over http? The tracker I've identified won't let me connect - just times out. |
| 16:28.12 | zekeonfire | I did it over HTTP. - I saw in azureas that some trackers require a referer. |
| 16:28.31 | tensai | zekeonfire: trackers use a modified http. the default tracker just shows hashes, not file names. some show all sorts of stuff. |
| 16:28.57 | tensai | zekeonfire: could be |
| 16:29.36 | zekeonfire | Hmmm I'll dig some more. Thanks tensai. |
| 16:30.06 | tensai | do you have access to the downloader's computer? you could just scan for .torrent files. |
| 16:31.43 | zekeonfire | not really. I had the same thought, but he's an executive on his personal laptop where I don't have any logon permissions. |
| 16:31.58 | ECS | It's going to be mirrored though. . . |
| 16:33.29 | zekeonfire | I'm jsut trying to make sure he's not breaking company policy. If it's an ISO or something, I'll just talk to him about eating up bandwidth. If it's porn or warez, I've got to report it to HR & CEO. |
| 16:34.07 | ECS | Is his bandwidth usage a problem? |
| 16:34.26 | zekeonfire | somewhat, but not too bad yet. |
| 16:35.00 | sjansen | zekeonfire: Just wait for the RIAA or MPAA to tell you what it is. |
| 16:35.08 | zekeonfire | haha nice. |
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| 16:45.34 | levi | I was getting 70k down on a torrent overnight. Unfortunately, it's gigantic and not likely to finish until a few more nights of downloading. |
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| 16:46.51 | maquis | levi: can i do (or lst)? |
| 16:46.56 | maquis | it doesn't seem to like that at all |
| 16:47.13 | levi | maquis: You want to get an 'or' of all the elements of the list together? |
| 16:47.19 | maquis | yup |
| 16:47.26 | levi | Sounds like a job for... fold! |
| 16:47.53 | levi | Except fold won't short circuit. |
| 16:48.02 | maquis | i don't want it to short-circuit |
| 16:48.07 | maquis | this one's not supposed to |
| 16:48.09 | levi | Well, there you go. |
| 16:48.30 | levi | (fold or lst) |
| 16:48.40 | maquis | it doesn't like that |
| 16:48.53 | levi | Do you have fold defined in your language level? |
| 16:48.58 | maquis | no... |
| 16:49.06 | levi | Well, copy the one you wrote earlier. |
| 16:49.08 | maquis | at least i'm guessing not |
| 16:50.08 | maquis | levi: before i do that |
| 16:50.17 | maquis | does or have the thing that 1 is true and 0 is false? |
| 16:50.34 | levi | No, I think it only uses #t and #f |
| 16:50.39 | maquis | bah |
| 16:51.19 | levi | You can still use a single test function and call it with fold. |
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| 16:52.20 | levi | (define (numeric-or x y) (or (eq? x 1) (eq? y 1))) |
| 16:52.34 | levi | (fold numeric-or lst) |
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| 17:37.12 | elg | what time do you figure it is in the netherlands? |
| 17:37.45 | Jayce^ | 7:37 pm |
| 17:38.16 | elg | gotta recover my nick eventually, but I'm in a good mood so I'll do it in the middle of the night |
| 17:47.53 | elg | -weather |
| 17:47.54 | brac | The weather stored for KLRU could not be parsed (KLRU 141429Z AUTO RMK AO2 PWINO) |
| 17:47.58 | elg | -weather kpvu |
| 17:47.59 | brac | 13 minutes ago, on Fri Oct 14 17:35:00 UTC 2005, the wind was blowing at a speed of 2.57 meters per second (5.75 miles per hour) from the Southwest at KPVU. The temperature was 13 degrees Celsius (55 degrees Fahrenheit), and the pressure was 1026 hPa (30.00 inHg). The relative humidity was 38.0%. The sky was clear. |
| 17:51.59 | goozbach | stderr: /msg? |
| 17:52.46 | stderr | goozbach: huh? |
| 17:52.53 | stderr | you want to message me? |
| 17:52.58 | stderr | g'head |
| 17:53.13 | goozbach | no, I was refering to your "private matters" earlier |
| 17:53.29 | stderr | I filter priv messages |
| 17:53.45 | stderr | and he messaged me |
| 17:53.54 | stderr | err spoke to me rather |
| 17:53.57 | stderr | so |
| 17:53.58 | stderr | like |
| 17:54.00 | stderr | I don't get your point |
| 17:54.33 | goozbach | never mind |
| 17:55.18 | goozbach | I didn't recognize the nick |
| 17:55.31 | goozbach | I was wondering if you weren't aware of /msg |
| 17:57.32 | stderr | Nah, I'm aware. |
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| 18:03.46 | goozbach | I figured |
| 18:12.58 | goozbach | I'm so 668.5 |
| 18:16.23 | maquis | -weather |
| 18:16.24 | brac | I don't know where you are yet! Lookup your code at http://www.nws.noaa.gov/tg/siteloc.shtml and tell me 'weather <code>', then I'll know. |
| 18:16.31 | maquis | -roulette |
| 18:16.32 | brac | maquis: chamber 2 of 6 => +click+ |
| 18:17.28 | maquis | -beat goozbach |
| 18:28.56 | goozbach | -lart psycho ex-girlfriends |
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| 18:47.33 | elg | maquis: it's kpvu |
| 18:47.48 | goozbach | 12:05: "and you can invite your new friends steve and joel -- then I'll never talk to you again" |
| 18:47.53 | goozbach | 12:15: "you're ignoring me again!!!" |
| 18:48.13 | goozbach | me: (thinking) yeah... umm, I'll pass on hanging out with you tonight |
| 18:49.02 | elg | ~hangout |
| 18:49.48 | elg | ~hang out with goozbach is <reply>goozbach: you're ignoring me again!!! |
| 18:49.49 | ibot | elg: okay |
| 19:02.26 | levi | Mmmmm, Big City Soup. |
| 19:02.28 | levi | So good. |
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| 19:13.33 | goozbach | ~hang out with goozbach |
| 19:13.35 | ibot | goozbach: you're ignoring me again!!! |
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| 19:37.46 | graphyx | ~hang out with goozbach |
| 19:37.48 | ibot | goozbach: you're ignoring me again!!! |
| 19:38.17 | graphyx | ~hang out with $who is <reply>$who: You're ignoring me again!!! |
| 19:38.18 | ibot | graphyx: okay |
| 19:38.26 | graphyx | ~hang out with graphyx |
| 19:38.27 | ibot | graphyx: You're ignoring me again!!! |
| 19:41.14 | maquis | ~ignore graphyx |
| 19:41.15 | ibot | ACTION sticks her fingers in her ears. "La, la, la! I can't hear you, graphyx!" |
| 19:50.36 | goozbach | http://www.geekonstun.com/mt/archives/marios_64_100405.html |
| 19:50.37 | brac | [302 Found] |
| 19:50.46 | goozbach | brac: good job! |
| 19:50.59 | goozbach | hey everybody!!! brack found that link! |
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| 19:59.52 | vontrapp | akghn, so it begins |
| 19:59.58 | vontrapp | imms is all wiggy all over the place |
| 20:00.12 | vontrapp | -lart ubuntu |
| 20:00.38 | graphyx | That's a nasty thing to do. |
| 20:10.04 | graphyx | how do you tell grep to only list the file name of the matched file? |
| 20:10.48 | synic | graphyx: grep -l |
| 20:10.53 | graphyx | thanks |
| 20:11.21 | synic | er... maybe not. |
| 20:11.37 | graphyx | -l (larrt) did the trick. |
| 20:11.46 | graphyx | Lower case L |
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| 20:17.56 | xbmodder_ | hey guys? |
| 20:24.21 | vontrapp | "don't keep this!!! OMG!!! you MUST send it to 50 peeps!! if not you will suck0rz!! and your mom will DIE!! send it on NOW!!! OMG!!" |
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| 20:32.49 | graphyx | hmm... Sounds like an aoler started writting chain letters... |
| 20:34.00 | levi | Sounds like xbmodder. ;) |
| 20:35.10 | xbmodder_school | levi: thats something I hate. |
| 20:35.47 | levi | xbmodder_school: Aren't you at school? Shouldn't you be paying attention to that or something? ;) |
| 20:35.48 | vontrapp | graphyx: just made that up, when telling someone what not to forward |
| 20:36.14 | vontrapp | ~textbook xbmodder_school |
| 20:36.50 | vontrapp | hmm, someone want to tackle that one? something about a large textbook and a head would probably suit |
| 20:37.03 | graphyx | vontrapp: Hmm... you are far too efficient at that type of thing. Please seek counselling to help suppress any further activity along that line. |
| 20:46.19 | graphyx | how do I use awk to print out the third element of a line? |
| 20:46.34 | tensai | ~texbook $vontrapp is <action> smashes $vontrapp flat between two excessively large biology textbooks |
| 20:46.35 | ibot | okay, tensai |
| 20:46.48 | tensai | graphyx: perl -lane 'print $F[2]' |
| 20:47.34 | graphyx | tensai: Does it split on spaces? |
| 20:47.49 | tensai | graphyx: by default uses any whitespace. you can specify with -F |
| 20:48.12 | graphyx | hmm... it just printed a bunch of blank lines. |
| 20:48.25 | graphyx | with F[0]-[3] |
| 20:48.43 | graphyx | guess it helps to put F instead of . |
| 20:48.44 | graphyx | f |
| 20:48.56 | tensai | yes, helps a whole lot |
| 20:49.51 | graphyx | thanks. |
| 20:49.55 | graphyx | I ended up with this line: |
| 20:50.09 | graphyx | grep -v "WGET" grepres | perl -lane 'print $F[2]' | sort -u |
| 20:50.15 | graphyx | and I feel pretty clever about it. |
| 20:50.51 | graphyx | so you were a wolf dressed in sheep's clothing... |
| 20:51.20 | dataw0lf | something like that |
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| 20:55.52 | graphyx | tensai: You rock. Thanks. |
| 21:28.54 | mheath | OldleBot mheath [141/202] has challenged tensai [246/449] in combat and lost! 0 days, 00:44:39 is added to mheath's clock. |
| 21:28.57 | mheath | Sorry, tensai |
| 21:29.07 | mheath | and, furthermore.......I hate you! :) |
| 21:44.19 | vontrapp | what would make ssh public key negotiation not happen? |
| 21:44.40 | vontrapp | on this server, i have my public key in /root/.ssh and in /home/von/.ssh |
| 21:44.55 | vontrapp | it works when i log in as root, but when i log in as von, it still asks for the password |
| 21:45.22 | levi | I'm pretty sure a number of things would cause that. Not having a ssh binary, not having a key, not typing the correct command, not having a network connection... ;) |
| 21:45.57 | vontrapp | not having an ssh binary? |
| 21:45.59 | goozbach | check the permissions of .ssh |
| 21:46.08 | goozbach | should be 700 |
| 21:46.19 | goozbach | and the authorized keys file should be 600 |
| 21:46.30 | vontrapp | levi: all those things... well, they're the same, on the same server, works for one, not for the other |
| 21:46.58 | levi | Sorry, I don't really have anything useful to say, I just have a case of logorrhea. ;) |
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| 21:48.24 | vontrapp | speaking of logs, any suggestions for stats trackage on a website? |
| 21:48.42 | mrpull- | vontrapp: i like awstats |
| 21:49.30 | levi | I use awstats, too. |
| 21:49.38 | goozbach | webalizer |
| 21:50.52 | levi | awstats runs painfully slowly on my poor box, though. |
| 21:51.31 | emcnabb | we use awstats |
| 21:51.37 | vontrapp | elg: is there something already on falcon? |
| 21:51.42 | emcnabb | (we = the McNabb family) |
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| 21:52.06 | vontrapp | any one know off the top of their head the cli way to mount a .dmg? |
| 21:52.21 | levi | vontrapp: Does 'open' work? |
| 21:52.23 | Jayce^ | open shoudl work |
| 21:52.34 | levi | Never tried it, but it seems to usually do the right thing. |
| 21:52.52 | Jayce^ | open should perform the same behavior as double clicking on a file |
| 21:53.00 | vontrapp | ²where does it then mount? |
| 21:53.39 | Jayce^ | should be able to get it via /Volumes iirc |
| 21:53.48 | Jayce^ | and link on the desktop |
| 21:53.58 | vontrapp | no desktop |
| 21:54.02 | vontrapp | i don't see it in volumes |
| 21:54.31 | elg | sorry what was that, I haven't been paying attention |
| 21:54.47 | Jayce^ | did you wait for the 'verify' step to finish? |
| 21:55.07 | elg | http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=2005050606123892 |
| 21:55.08 | brac | [macosxhints - Mount .DMG images remotely via the Terminal] |
| 21:55.15 | elg | vontrapp: does falcon have what? |
| 21:55.21 | vontrapp | root@hoth ~# open OSXvnc1.33.dmg |
| 21:55.22 | vontrapp | root@hoth ~# |
| 21:55.24 | Jayce^ | it did it for me in my test |
| 21:55.36 | Jayce^ | desktop and Volumes |
| 21:58.49 | vontrapp | elg: stats tracker |
| 21:59.21 | elg | what kind of stats? |
| 21:59.30 | vontrapp | visitor stats |
| 21:59.48 | vontrapp | i was thinking of using clog, if it's up to it |
| 22:02.26 | vontrapp | does the authorized_keys file itself need a specific set of permisions? |
| 22:03.27 | neybar_work | mine is set to rw------- |
| 22:04.28 | vontrapp | ok yeah, that did it |
| 22:05.06 | vontrapp | can rsync update only files that already exist? |
| 22:06.48 | tensai | vontrapp: having your /home directory with anything weaker than 755 will cause ssh to refuse to use keys, also |
| 22:07.04 | tensai | generally it prints a message about why to syslog |
| 22:07.33 | tensai | vontrapp: rsync by default should send new files. do you /want/ it to only update? |
| 22:07.52 | tensai | mheath: w00t, in your face! |
| 22:07.52 | mrpull- | vontrapp: that is an interesting question. what is the motivation? |
| 22:10.58 | vontrapp | i want to get all the files in a repository, then rsync from another source, which has way more than just the codebase repository, and i don't want it to transfer all the images etc. |
| 22:11.37 | vontrapp | just the files that are already there (the codebase) |
| 22:13.14 | tensai | you could run find on the destination to generate a list of files that exists and then pass that file to --include-from |
| 22:13.22 | tensai | I don't see an option to do just what you want though |
| 22:16.45 | mrpull- | --existing only update files that already exist |
| 22:17.29 | tensai | sure enough, I looked right past it |
| 22:17.37 | tensai | ~mrpull-++ |
| 22:17.38 | levi | elg: Hah, I got a web hit from your post to linux-audio-user. |
| 22:18.59 | elg | only one? |
| 22:19.05 | mrpull- | vontrapp: try --dry-run first :) I don't trust myself |
| 22:20.42 | levi | elg: Only one from the web interface to the mail archive. I can't really see when they come from a regular mail client. |
| 22:21.23 | elg | ah |
| 22:22.20 | levi | Heh. My top search keyphrases: 'brain funugs', 'lisp blog', 'nihilism and existentialism', 'self leveling floor compound', 'the stranger and existentialism', and 'pvc flame thrower' |
| 22:22.45 | elg | self-leveling floor compound? |
| 22:22.49 | elg | di you have such a thing |
| 22:23.02 | levi | My top keywords: 'the', 'stranger', 'levi', 'existentialism', 'and' |
| 22:23.14 | levi | I'm happy that 'existentialism' beat out 'and'. ;) |
| 22:23.32 | levi | elg: Yes, in fact. Two layers of it are on my kitchen floor, under my new tile. |
| 22:24.39 | levi | Hm. I got 10 hits each from 'lisp' and 'nihilism'. |
| 22:25.08 | levi | I got two from 'template metaprogramming error handling' |
| 22:25.28 | vontrapp | levi: where do these stats come from? |
| 22:25.31 | levi | And 2 from 'cursive captital q penmanship' |
| 22:25.33 | levi | vontrapp: awstats |
| 22:26.45 | levi | Heh, 1 hit from 'flugelbinders' |
| 22:27.07 | tensai | vontrapp: I also use awstats |
| 22:27.29 | tensai | levi: did you remember to patch against the most recent exploit? |
| 22:33.29 | levi | tensai: No, I just don't let outsiders access awstats.pl |
| 22:33.53 | tensai | levi: that'll work too |
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| 22:39.30 | xbmodder | vontrapp, hdiutils |
| 22:41.56 | vontrapp | what does mysql connect error (61) mean? |
| 22:42.29 | tensai | vontrapp: 61 more tries until your box self destructs |
| 22:42.50 | vontrapp | ~textbook tensai |
| 22:43.00 | tensai | ibot: slow poke |
| 22:43.16 | tensai | hmm. maybe I did something wrong |
| 22:43.41 | tensai | ~literal textbook $who |
| 22:43.57 | vontrapp | ~literal say something |
| 22:43.58 | ibot | something |
| 22:44.01 | vontrapp | ~anything |
| 22:44.02 | ibot | somebody said anything was better than fat32 |
| 22:44.11 | vontrapp | stupido bot |
| 22:44.29 | levi | What about fat12, eh? |
| 22:44.41 | tensai | ~factinfo textbook $vontrapp |
| 22:44.41 | ibot | tensai: there's no such factoid as textbook $vontrapp |
| 22:44.53 | tensai | ~texbook $vontrapp is <action> smashes $vontrapp flat between two excessively large biology textbooks |
| 22:44.55 | ibot | ACTION smashes $vontrapp is <action> smashes $vontrapp flat between two excessively large biology textbooks flat between two excessively large biology textbooks |
| 22:45.16 | tensai | ~textbook $vontrapp is <action> smashes $vontrapp flat between two excessively large biology textbooks |
| 22:45.17 | ibot | okay, tensai |
| 22:45.26 | tensai | ~forget texbook $vontrapp |
| 22:45.26 | ibot | i didn't have anything called 'texbook $vontrapp' to forget, tensai |
| 22:45.42 | levi | I had a floppy disk that I had to use Win98 to read. I think it must have been FAT12. |
| 22:45.45 | tensai | ~textbook vontrapp |
| 22:45.47 | ibot | ACTION smashes vontrapp flat between two excessively large biology textbooks |
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| 22:51.49 | xbmodder | hey |
| 22:54.13 | elg | so I learned today that stderr isn't buffered. that's a nice tidbit |
| 22:55.04 | levi | Huh. |
| 22:55.13 | levi | Interesting indeed. |
| 22:55.23 | elg | at least, that's what the prof said. I should know better than to trust a professor without trying it by now. :) |
| 22:57.40 | xbmodder | What should projectK distrubute first? |
| 23:01.44 | levi | xbmodder: Is that your stupid filesharing network? |
| 23:02.12 | elg | xbmodder: /dev/null |
| 23:02.15 | elg | or /dev/zero |
| 23:02.17 | elg | or `yes` |
| 23:02.34 | Jayce^ | hrm, is kickban a good enough penalty for that system? |
| 23:03.04 | elg | -remind xbmodder dns is not a toy every 5 minuts |
| 23:03.04 | brac | insufficient "remind_other" auth (have 10, need 12) |
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| 23:15.16 | xbmodder_lappy | I thought I told you guys that I abandoned the DNS system |
| 23:15.21 | xbmodder_lappy | since it was too inefficent. |
| 23:16.15 | xbmodder_lappy | ?ping |
| 23:17.02 | levi | You didn't mention that to me. |
| 23:17.07 | levi | But, yeah. Duh. |
| 23:17.23 | xbmodder_lappy | lol |
| 23:17.28 | levi | Didn't I tell you it was a bad idea? |
| 23:17.46 | xbmodder_lappy | but it was an awesome hack. |
| 23:18.06 | levi | Not really. |
| 23:18.23 | goozbach | and as your pennance you must read "the cathedreal and the bazzaar" and do 25 stallman nuestros |
| 23:19.23 | levi | xbmodder_lappy: I don't think you have the background necessary to write a p2p system that is significantly better than what's available now. They're not trivial programs. |
| 23:19.38 | xbmodder_lappy | levi, I will learn. |
| 23:19.55 | xbmodder_lappy | Its a 'special' program. At least proof of concept. |
| 23:20.08 | levi | xbmodder_lappy: It's not the sort of thing you just 'learn' overnight. |
| 23:20.25 | xbmodder_lappy | levi, I am planning to write this over the next few months |
| 23:20.50 | xbmodder_lappy | but I need to examine some data |
| 23:21.19 | goozbach | A P2P system is quite a bit to bite off and chew |
| 23:21.22 | goozbach | goodluck |
| 23:21.23 | levi | That's why I find both you and mheath so infuriatingly annoying. You have no respect for the difficulty of problems, and you're going to churn out half-baked tripe until you take them seriously. |
| 23:22.42 | levi | You're going to need a lot more than some vague notions of a hierarchical caching system before you take on something like bittorrent. |
| 23:24.03 | levi | There's a reason Computer Science programs exist at universities. It's to equip people with the tools they need to think about problems like that. |
| 23:24.54 | levi | Anyone can pick up some books and learn to write business apps or web apps. Doing groundbreaking work in network protocols is not at all the same thing, though. That requires education and experience. |
| 23:26.46 | xbmodder_lappy | goozbach, thanks for believing in me. |
| 23:27.53 | xbmodder_lappy | goozbach, We have a few professionals on the project. |
| 23:29.04 | levi | Define 'professional' in this context. There are a lot of idiots paid to write code, as well as a lot of smart people. And there are also a lot of smart people who are good coders but wouldn't have a clue about how to write a p2p network protocol. |
| 23:31.03 | goozbach | er "crackpot"'s the original creators of bittorrent got |
| 23:32.53 | goozbach | because you HAVE to be Comp-Sci graduate to create something like bittorrent... |
| 23:32.54 | goozbach | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bram_Cohen |
| 23:32.59 | brac | [Bram Cohen - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia] |
| 23:33.10 | levi | I didn't say anything about graduating. |
| 23:34.13 | levi | I said you needed education. |
| 23:34.55 | goozbach | because all GOOD education comes from the university system |
| 23:35.08 | levi | I just said that the university was a place to get it. |
| 23:35.17 | levi | My real point is that education is necessary. |
| 23:39.11 | levi | University programs exist because the education is important; it's not important because university programs exist. |
| 23:45.50 | levi | One thing Bram Cohen's got going for him is a love of math, which is a lot more applicable to this sort of thing, I think, than general programming knowledge. |
| 23:46.14 | levi | Not to mention that he had experience working with similar stuff before he wrote Bittorrent. |
