| 00:05.15 | goozbach | WAHOO!!! 11000+ frequent flyer miles for one trip |
| 00:05.44 | elg | why? |
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| 00:06.38 | goozbach | flying to spain |
| 00:07.37 | elg | oh yeah. do you speak spainish? |
| 00:07.54 | goozbach | yup |
| 00:08.08 | goozbach | well, mexican... but it's clos enough |
| 00:08.28 | elg | just listen to lots of enrique and practith your lithp |
| 00:08.29 | goozbach | or should that be: is clos enof |
| 00:09.22 | elg | will you be doing the class in spainish? |
| 00:09.46 | elg | i've tried to type/read some linux stuff in spanish and found i didn't really have the vocabulary for that yet. :) |
| 00:10.06 | goozbach | elg == hans? |
| 00:10.13 | elg | ja |
| 00:10.19 | elg | elg is danish for moose |
| 00:10.22 | goozbach | ahh |
| 00:10.23 | elg | it's my alter ego |
| 00:10.45 | goozbach | I think hans and I had this conversation a while back if I remember correctly |
| 00:11.05 | elg | probably. |
| 00:11.31 | elg | don't tell him his memory is failing me. wouldn't want to hurt his feelings |
| 00:12.55 | goozbach | well if I told him, he wouldn't remember for long |
| 00:13.00 | goozbach | no harm no foul |
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| 00:36.24 | xbmodder | whats the worst thing that could happen to a rich spoiled popular teenage guy? |
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| 00:38.20 | roscivs | Hit by a truck? |
| 00:38.32 | roscivs | Hmmm... no, I can do better than that ... |
| 00:38.36 | xbmodder | something that his peers could do to him? |
| 00:38.43 | xbmodder | roscivs, I would say get an STD... |
| 00:38.45 | roscivs | Hit him with a truck? |
| 00:38.55 | Tene | tied to a chair and parents killed while he's forced to watch? |
| 00:38.58 | roscivs | An incurable one. Yeah. That would suck. |
| 00:39.12 | Tene | and then his legs cut off? |
| 00:39.19 | roscivs | Tied to a chair and an STD ... whoa, ok, |
| 00:39.25 | roscivs | I'm going to cut off this line of thought right now. |
| 00:40.02 | Tene | heh |
| 00:40.11 | Tene | I should go see Serenity tonight. |
| 00:40.52 | roscivs | Anyone ever tried typing Japanese in Linux? |
| 00:41.18 | roscivs | Arabic input isn't too crazy, I just have another keymap since Arabic has around 26 letters ... |
| 00:41.25 | roscivs | but Japanese, hm, that's another story. |
| 00:42.02 | maquis | roscivs: i'm guessing you're referring to kanji? |
| 00:42.16 | roscivs | Kana, actually. |
| 00:42.21 | roscivs | (katakana and hiragana) |
| 00:42.28 | maquis | hmmm |
| 00:42.32 | roscivs | I don't actually know any kanji yet ... I'm still beginning :-) |
| 00:42.38 | maquis | ah... |
| 00:42.58 | maquis | i've seen people typing chinese, and i'm guessing they do the kanji in a similar way... |
| 00:43.03 | maquis | but i wouldn't know about kana |
| 00:45.24 | ScytheBlade1 | this is fun...throwing 527Mb/sec at a 2.8GHz running intel causes 37% CPU load... |
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| 00:51.44 | roscivs | Hmmm... looks like there's a package called kinput2 that may do what I want. |
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| 01:11.24 | roscivs | Hmmmm... looks like kinput2 is old school. IIIMF is where it's at now, apparently. |
| 01:20.37 | roscivs | Wow. Well IIIMF is certainly cool. |
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| 01:37.09 | xbmodder | http://100h.org/wlan/aircrack/aircrack-2.3.tgz |
| 01:37.17 | xbmodder | oops wrong hot-key |
| 01:38.28 | xbmodder | http://100h.org/wlan/aircrack/aircrack-2.3.tgz |
| 01:38.31 | xbmodder | ah crud |
| 01:38.35 | roscivs | lol. |
| 01:38.50 | xbmodder | anyone know why its like this (flood-ish): |
| 01:38.51 | xbmodder | Total number of packets read 3785 |
| 01:38.51 | xbmodder | Total number of WEP data packets 0 |
| 01:38.51 | xbmodder | Total number of WPA data packets 0 |
| 01:38.51 | xbmodder | Number of plaintext data packets 0 |
| 01:38.52 | xbmodder | Number of decrypted WEP packets 0 |
| 01:38.53 | xbmodder | Number of decrypted WPA packets 0 |
| 02:24.01 | elg | it's floodish because you pasted 6 lines |
| 02:34.11 | goozbach | hah! |
| 02:34.28 | maquis | goozbach: you home? |
| 02:34.36 | Tene | heh |
| 02:34.42 | goozbach | so I'm in boarding group B this time |
| 02:34.48 | goozbach | maquis: no |
| 02:34.52 | Tene | goozbach: still on for tomorrow? |
| 02:34.56 | maquis | airport? |
| 02:35.04 | goozbach | just made it to the airport |
| 02:35.19 | maquis | that's a long drive |
| 02:35.53 | goozbach | I hope the percentage of seats empty next to cute girls is higher this time |
| 02:36.19 | goozbach | I took public transit |
| 02:36.39 | maquis | goozbach: southwest again? |
| 02:36.48 | goozbach | Bart to the shuttle to the airport |
| 02:36.51 | goozbach | yup |
| 02:36.57 | goozbach | moooooooo! |
| 02:37.17 | maquis | :) |
| 02:37.24 | Tene | goozbach: still on for tomorrow? |
| 02:39.01 | goozbach | Tene: yup |
| 02:39.10 | goozbach | noonish? |
| 02:39.18 | Tene | kk |
| 02:39.27 | goozbach | grats |
| 02:39.31 | Tene | np |
| 02:40.16 | goozbach | er some |
| 03:04.17 | goozbach | sleeping on the ground to get a good spot in line is something you do for a movie. not to get on a plane. |
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| 03:06.28 | levi-treo | It's intermission time at the symphony. |
| 03:08.44 | levi-treo | Hmm, where is everyone? |
| 03:09.36 | goozbach | standing in line to get on a plane |
| 03:10.45 | levi-treo | Fun. |
| 03:11.07 | goozbach | yes |
| 03:11.15 | goozbach | very yes |
| 03:12.46 | levi-treo | Hmm, upIRC is being weird. |
| 03:12.54 | maquis | levi-treo: what symphony? |
| 03:13.01 | goozbach | dvorak |
| 03:13.13 | goozbach | not john c. |
| 03:13.19 | goozbach | :) |
| 03:13.30 | maquis | ~lart goozbach |
| 03:13.34 | levi-treo | maquis: goozbach listens to me. :) |
| 03:13.56 | maquis | :) |
| 03:13.56 | levi-treo | time to go, music starting again. |
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| 03:14.25 | goozbach | levi-treo: actually I have a great memory andd I listen to everybody |
| 03:29.55 | elg | daggone it, I can't find that cool site that lets me make feed buttons |
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| 03:36.50 | elg | ah there it is. http://www.lucazappa.com/brilliantMaker/buttonImage.php |
| 03:37.10 | mrpull | levi: what is the show? |
| 03:38.44 | mrpull | der... i'm a bit behind |
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| 04:20.07 | xbmodder_lappy | hey |
| 04:22.08 | xbmodder_lappy | sup? |
| 04:22.29 | goozbach | boardibg dorr closeing |
| 04:24.23 | xbmodder_lappy | bye |
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| 04:32.13 | elg | man, torriem scared me for a minute there |
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| 04:51.56 | levi | Ahh, that was a most excellent symphony. |
| 04:56.26 | xbmodder_lappy | cool |
| 04:59.53 | elg | levi: the real symphony, or the netsplit leave/join sounds? |
| 05:00.30 | levi | elg: Uh, I wasn't aware of any netsplit. I mean the real symphony, Dvorak's 6th. |
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| 05:14.07 | levi | findlay: I just got back from the Dvorak symphony. It was good! |
| 05:14.48 | findlay | levi: I'm going tomorrow |
| 05:15.05 | findlay | yeah, Keith does Dvorak really well |
| 05:15.18 | levi | I'm going for Thai food and to see Wallace and Gromit tomorrow. |
| 05:15.25 | levi | And homework. :/ |
| 05:15.51 | levi | The violin concerto didn't do a whole lot for me, but the scherzo and the symphony were excellent. |
| 05:16.18 | findlay | I remember when they did number 5 (symphony) earlier this year and it was much better than the recording from the cycle with Raphael Kubelik and the BPO |
| 05:16.30 | levi | Hearing a 300-year old Stradivarius was kinda cool, though. |
| 05:16.59 | findlay | scherzo capriccioso is one of my favorite pieces |
| 05:17.14 | findlay | it will be interesting to hear what Keith does with it |
| 05:17.29 | levi | I'd never heard it before. |
| 05:17.36 | findlay | yeah, I've heard 3 Strads live before |
| 05:17.42 | findlay | well, 2 |
| 05:17.46 | xbmodder | hey |
| 05:17.47 | findlay | three by tomorrow |
| 05:25.02 | findlay | ~lart mheath's night of horror |
| 05:25.18 | maquis | mheath: what was bad at work? |
| 05:25.35 | mheath | maquis: unbelievably busy, and I just kept screwing up |
| 05:25.41 | mheath | It just wasn't my night *shrug* |
| 05:25.48 | mheath | And I'm just about to go to sleep |
| 05:25.57 | mheath | For I get to work a double shift tomorrow, starting at 12:00! |
| 05:26.21 | maquis | ick |
| 05:26.26 | xbmodder | ack. |
| 05:26.34 | xbmodder | sorry about that mheath |
| 05:26.39 | mheath | maquis: granted I've only worked there like 4 months... |
| 05:26.47 | mheath | but tonight was probably the busiest night I've ever worked there |
| 05:27.19 | mheath | Tomorrow won't be so bad |
| 05:27.29 | mheath | I work better and can focus better earlier in the day, I think |
| 05:27.58 | mheath | And (knock on wood...) t won't be as busy |
| 05:30.15 | maquis | not sure where it's playing, but wherever it is, they've been playing loudly all night |
| 05:30.30 | findlay | really? thanks. it's Symphonie Fantastique |
| 05:35.21 | maquis | findlay: sorry... it wasn't you... |
| 05:35.21 | bigdog_ut | anyone know of a program to boost volume from a sound stream |
| 05:35.28 | maquis | i don't think it's your type |
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| 05:36.55 | mheath | bigdog_ut: you mean like: myaudioprogram | makeitlouder > /dev/dsp ? |
| 05:37.14 | findlay | bigdog_ut: amixer, alsamixer |
| 05:38.01 | bigdog_ut | i want to take a sounds stream from the video card as input and raise the volume |
| 05:38.13 | bigdog_ut | sound card |
| 05:38.36 | findlay | if I understand correctly there are alsa utils that can do software amplification, but you loose quality |
| 05:38.53 | findlay | best to stick with hardware amp |
| 05:39.26 | findlay | bigdog_ut: your sound card has a gain for the input channel? |
| 05:39.41 | findlay | your original source could be louder perhaps? |
| 05:40.08 | levi | G'night. |
| 05:40.29 | bigdog_ut | i looked at the alsa tools...but did not see one for amplification...perhaps i need to look again |
| 05:40.39 | bigdog_ut | sound card has no gain..only on the mic |
| 05:41.49 | bigdog_ut | the problem that i have is that if i play some dvds the sound is really low |
| 05:41.56 | findlay | the "right" thing to do is to have the mic signal go through a real amplifier before ADC capture |
| 05:41.58 | bigdog_ut | i want to boost that and im not sure how |
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| 05:45.20 | findlay | bigdog_ut: if you want to go software, you want ladspa |
| 05:45.44 | bigdog_ut | thanks findlay i will check it out and look at alsa utils too |
| 05:48.19 | findlay | besides if you're doing anything audio mixing and the like there are some pretty mature applications out there like timidity, rosegarden, audacity, and others |
| 05:48.40 | findlay | hans is the real expert here, though. I'm just faking it. |
| 05:50.37 | xbmodder | heheh |
| 05:58.45 | bigdog_ut | okay...im a dumb*ss |
| 06:00.27 | bigdog_ut | i had the capture vol down...so it sounded low |
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| 06:29.58 | findlay | cool, I want linux with employee pricing |
| 06:53.32 | xbmodder | whats a nice distrubution to install? Something lightweight... |
| 06:53.38 | xbmodder | (it'll run in Qemu) |
| 06:55.28 | findlay | Linux Antartica, the distro for the common penguin |
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| 06:56.02 | findlay | hahaha haha! I'm so funny |
| 06:56.07 | findlay | ~lart me |
| 06:56.14 | xbmodder | ~blart findlay |
| 06:56.26 | xbmodder | ~stfu |
| 06:56.27 | ibot | extra, extra, read all about it, stfu is Shut the F*** Up!, or http://www.linuks.mine.nu/stfu-noob.jpg |
| 06:57.46 | findlay | but fridge has six letters |
| 06:58.49 | Hhhhh | http://students.cs.byu.edu/~calvarer/stfu_noob_dogs.jpg |
| 07:15.06 | findlay | http://www.linuxhq.com/dist.html |
| 07:15.33 | findlay | it's there, but looks like the DN has expired, probably along with the rest of the distro |
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| 07:40.33 | *** topic/#utah is The source for OSS focused discussion in Utah. See sllug.org, uphpu.org, plug.org, uug.byu.edu, uvlug.org, fslc.usu.edu, nupm.org, utwaa.org, oalug.com. See planetutah.adelantellc.com for aggregate feeds |
| 07:40.59 | findlay | ibot_: how do you feel? |
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| 08:27.45 | Hhhhhh | heh |
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| 11:17.33 | graphyx | morning. |
| 11:36.31 | findlay | it's morning already? |
| 11:41.38 | graphyx | yeah. |
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| 11:45.42 | graphyx | freak. runaway keyboard |
| 11:45.43 | graphyx | sorry. |
| 13:23.26 | elg | bigdog_ut: speak to me about your audio needs |
| 13:24.20 | graphyx | I could use some surround sound speakers. |
| 13:25.23 | findlay | elg: if you're resolving audio needs, I need a 7.1 surround system preferrably THX brand that runs off of at least 64 bit digital signal, oh yeah |
| 13:25.43 | graphyx | yeah.. what he said.. |
| 13:26.04 | findlay | imagine Beethoven at 64 bits |
| 13:26.21 | graphyx | Well by this time I am sure he has decomposed into more than just 64 bits... |
| 13:26.36 | findlay | 1024 kHz, about as many watts, that would be most excellent |
| 13:26.53 | graphyx | findlay: Wouldn't that just be 1MHz? |
| 13:26.56 | findlay | digital speakers |
| 13:28.12 | findlay | CD quality is 16 bit @ 44.1 kHz |
| 13:29.51 | findlay | imagine 128 bit @ 1 MHz .. who needs analog anymore |
| 13:30.34 | elg | for any digital format there's always going to be some kook who's convinced he can hear the difference |
| 13:30.50 | findlay | (: |
| 13:30.57 | graphyx | It's the expectation of difference that causes people to think that something is there. |
| 13:31.42 | elg | I'd like to see a double-blind study where people can pick out which is 44.1kHz and which is 48kHz |
| 13:31.42 | graphyx | something along the lines of those people who are always feeling like there is something wrong with them and have to be prescribed expensive sugar pills.. |
| 13:32.20 | elg | I've never really believed you can tell the difference, but I know some audiophiles that are sure you can. |
| 13:32.45 | elg | I've never had the equipment to see for myself. Obviously without good enough speakers/headphones you're not going to be able to |
| 13:33.07 | elg | 48 is useful though because when you run some effects you can get aliasing |
| 13:33.29 | findlay | elg: you can tell with CD quality |
| 13:33.34 | findlay | I can hear it |
| 13:33.49 | findlay | the limit of human hearing is 24 bit |
| 13:33.59 | elg | is it the quantization (16-bit) though |
| 14:27.21 | graphyx | that bad? |
| 14:27.32 | maquis | i'm scared of my test |
| 14:27.37 | graphyx | which test? |
| 14:27.42 | maquis | security |
| 14:28.05 | graphyx | 465? |
| 14:28.13 | maquis | i really want to do well... |
| 14:28.14 | maquis | yeh |
| 14:28.19 | graphyx | is Seamons teaching it or Jason? |
| 14:28.24 | maquis | seamons |
| 14:28.40 | graphyx | you missed out Jason taught a good security class. |
| 14:28.46 | maquis | who's jason? |
| 14:28.55 | graphyx | one of the Phd. Students. |
| 14:28.59 | graphyx | I can't recall his last name. |
| 14:29.02 | maquis | ah |
| 14:29.03 | graphyx | Could be lunkwill. |
| 14:29.47 | maquis | anyway time for a quick shower.... and then i'll be cramming til 10 or 11 |
| 14:29.49 | graphyx | What are you studying for the class? |
| 14:30.02 | graphyx | Well if you get stuck on anything go ahead and ask. |
| 14:30.11 | graphyx | I just might know a little about it. |
| 14:41.50 | elg | I second that - I took it from seamons and when jason subbed it was great |
| 14:42.09 | elg | although I must note that seamons was a much better teacher when teaching security, than when teaching 345 |
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| 14:47.29 | graphyx | elg: I had 345 from him as well. |
| 14:47.47 | graphyx | Granted I ended up working in the lab for a bit. |
| 14:48.01 | graphyx | but the 345 stuff was just to arbitrary... |
| 14:48.05 | graphyx | Sir, what about this item.. |
| 14:48.25 | elg | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:48.25 | graphyx | prof: Well what do you think... what does the book say? Check into that... |
| 14:48.37 | graphyx | IT was pretty bad. |
| 15:03.02 | maquis | for some reason, when dr seamons is talking, it reminds me sometimes of the stereotypical nervous/paranoid security guy |
| 15:04.36 | fishyfire | good luck with the test! |
| 15:04.51 | maquis | fishyfire: thanks |
| 15:05.49 | graphyx | I didn't get the nervous/paranoid security guy so much as lack of confidence about what he was speaking. |
| 15:05.54 | graphyx | Not that he wasn't, just didn't seem like it. |
| 15:06.37 | fishyfire | anybody have any experience with scripts to upload files from forms? |
| 15:07.02 | maquis | fishyfire: i've founds some on google before |
| 15:07.21 | maquis | graphyx: i've never gotten that impression, but i did manage to stump him witm a question |
| 15:07.40 | maquis | granted, the reason he's stumped is that evry security book you check will give a different answer |
| 15:07.43 | fishyfire | well i have one and it is setup, just not working right |
| 15:08.32 | maquis | symptoms? |
| 15:09.28 | fishyfire | well i get the email it sends... but i can't find the uploaded files anywhere, as i understand it with this script they are supposed to be attached to the email... |
| 15:10.11 | maquis | that someplace might not be writeable by apache? |
| 15:15.34 | fishyfire | hmm, any suggestion of where it might be trying to save? |
| 15:15.40 | elg | maquis: you don't get that impression because you're taking security from him, not 345 |
| 15:15.57 | maquis | elg: likely |
| 15:16.43 | fishyfire | i looked again and it does say they are supposed to come through as attachments to the email |
| 15:17.21 | maquis | fishyfire: check in the code, and see if they're saving it anywhere first |
| 15:17.29 | maquis | if so, check and see if it's there |
| 15:17.51 | maquis | i don't know of a way to send an attachment without firs saving the file someplace (i could be wrong, though) |
| 15:20.49 | elg | you can, in general |
| 15:21.49 | fishyfire | i tried to look at the code but it is all foreign to me, i haven't ever done anything like this with such code |
| 15:22.28 | fishyfire | i mean i have done some programming before so i can follow it a little bit |
| 15:22.37 | fishyfire | but i don't know all the syntax and such |
| 15:22.45 | fishyfire | if that makes any sense |
| 15:23.34 | fishyfire | i am using the nms tfmail script if that helps at all |
| 15:24.57 | fishyfire | well i tried the sourceforge mailing list archives and they are back up, so i will look through that and see if i can find any answers |
| 15:45.21 | xbmodder | whats the easiest form of BSD? |
| 15:50.03 | maquis | (and get some breakfast) |
| 16:04.33 | sjansen | fishyfire: first question, why are you using tfmail? |
| 16:04.49 | sjansen | or more specifically, what are you trying to accomplish? |
| 16:28.05 | fishyfire | i am trying to set up a form to allow people to insert information and files, and then the results including the files get emailed to me |
| 16:28.59 | fishyfire | and i am using tfmail because it's doing what i need it to, and i don't know how to write the files by myself |
| 16:29.10 | fishyfire | but i got it to work finally! |
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| 16:30.15 | sjansen | okay, n/m then |
| 16:30.59 | fishyfire | thanks though |
| 16:32.13 | elg | ~lart sjansen |
| 16:32.22 | elg | why? |
| 16:32.41 | sjansen | because I can't get rails + fastcgi working |
| 16:32.50 | sjansen | with apache |
| 16:32.52 | elg | really? I didn't find that too hard |
| 16:32.59 | elg | what's the trouble? |
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| 16:33.40 | sjansen | I don't know. One just refuses to talk with the other. |
| 16:33.48 | xbmodder | what good QoS scripts are out there? something where I can give multiple (20) priorities based on ports and hosts? |
| 16:33.57 | elg | wondershaper |
| 16:34.12 | sjansen | I last played with it more than a week ago. I suppose I could try again for a specific error message. |
| 16:34.17 | elg | it doesn't do 20 priorities, just high and low, but it works pretty well |
| 16:34.39 | elg | it's a good starting point if you want to diverge into your own script with cool features, but really you should try wondershaper first |
| 16:34.46 | elg | it may surprise you how well it works. |
| 16:36.20 | xbmodder | elg, How do I add high priorities and how can I add more? |
| 16:36.32 | elg | i, otoh, have no choice but to somehow get openldap compiled on one of these suse servers |
| 16:36.40 | elg | xbmodder: |
| 16:37.00 | xbmodder | ? |
| 16:37.01 | elg | xbmodder: you have to learn "lots of stuff" |
| 16:37.19 | elg | see lartc.org and read the bit on queieng displines |
| 16:37.19 | sjansen | elg: why do you have to compile it? |
| 16:37.38 | xbmodder | so to for LO you can use the script easily but for HI you can't? |
| 16:37.45 | elg | or install an RPM or whatever. so far I've had no luck with any approach |
| 16:38.10 | elg | I got an rpm, only to find it was way too old to work with the version on the other server (which is 9.0 - the only 9.0 box we have) |
| 16:38.45 | elg | so I thought I'd just compile it, but of course a newer version just can't do with an older libdb version |
| 16:38.57 | elg | and of course I can't uninstall the current libdb... you know the drill |
| 16:40.07 | sjansen | let me guess, you don't have a support contract anymore so you can't just get the binary from novell? |
| 16:40.55 | elg | even if I had a support contract, the version of openldap for sles8 is lower (and incompatible for slurpd) than the one on sles9 |
| 16:42.01 | bonez39 | is this the FOSS version of .dll hell? |
| 16:42.41 | xbmodder | Use a portage, yum, or apt |
| 16:42.49 | elg | not exactly, but it feels the same. :) |
| 16:43.14 | sjansen | ah, so you need to replicate between boxen |
| 16:43.22 | elg | the FOSS version of dll hell is basically the same problem - dynamic libaray incompatibilities. and it does show up |
| 16:43.32 | elg | yeah, sorry. forgot to mention I'm setting up replication |
| 16:43.49 | elg | or I will be, if I can get a compatible version of openldap installed on another of these servers. :) |
| 16:47.07 | sjansen | I've never compiled openldap. It requires a specific version of bdb to compile? |
| 16:48.54 | elg | at least vX where X is > whatever is on sles8 |
| 16:49.05 | elg | X being the major version number |
| 16:52.17 | sjansen | So you can't grab the sles8 srpm and compile on sles9? |
| 16:52.51 | elg | probably... but the sles9 one is already in production, who knows what headaches would come from downgrading |
| 16:53.57 | sjansen | heh |
| 16:54.14 | sjansen | so you're running on sles9 and you want to start replicating to sles8 |
| 16:54.20 | elg | yup |
| 16:54.28 | sjansen | Sounds like you stuck between a rock and a hard place old man. |
| 16:54.35 | elg | yeah. :) |
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| 17:11.48 | findlay | the untractable labrynth of .so conflict potentials |
| 17:12.08 | findlay | ~spell labrinth |
| 17:12.26 | sjansen | it's hardly untractable |
| 17:12.35 | sjansen | just a bit tricky is all |
| 17:13.25 | findlay | do you think a distro has more authority over it's libs than windows? |
| 17:13.46 | findlay | because of the comprehensive package manager |
| 17:14.14 | findlay | rather than the ad hoc choose your favorite nonstandard install method |
| 17:14.15 | sjansen | no, because of ELF |
| 17:14.57 | sjansen | however, with the addition of strong naming CLR based solutions have an even greater advantage |
| 17:15.57 | sjansen | .DLL is an information poor format |
| 17:16.23 | sjansen | ELF provides several mechanisms to avoid and handling potential conflict (although most developers don't take advantage of them) |
| 17:17.28 | sjansen | ELF files can lie, however |
| 17:18.08 | elg | dwarves, otoh |
| 17:19.13 | elg | oh looky here, a sarge box. it's old and we were just getting ready to retire it... |
| 17:19.41 | elg | but just maybe it'll work |
| 17:26.07 | sjansen | (^%(*&%(&^*&^$)*&$O&Y(^$*&OU(Y(O^$R)OP(*^*%EOLHJVO(C$P |
| 17:26.21 | sjansen | And I do mean (&*%(^${IYO*^%P:JNBYUK%PYGI*^<IR%EO*&G{) |
| 17:33.37 | sjansen | I'm getting nothing more than "Premature end of script headers:" out of this blasted thing. |
| 17:34.35 | xbmodder | Don't take this as a stupid question but: How come no body wants to hire a teenager to work with computers? |
| 17:35.02 | ScytheBlade1 | lack of education |
| 17:35.06 | ScytheBlade1 | and I mean formal education ;) |
| 17:35.14 | xbmodder | heh... |
| 17:35.14 | ScytheBlade1 | and certifications, typically |
| 17:35.33 | ScytheBlade1 | especially down where you are, where certified educated people are everywhere |
| 17:35.34 | xbmodder | what kind of certifications? |
| 17:35.53 | ScytheBlade1 | have you heard of A+? |
| 17:36.38 | xbmodder | yeah |
| 17:36.45 | sjansen | A+, MCSE, RHCE, CCNA, etc. |
| 17:36.49 | ScytheBlade1 | etc. indeed |
| 17:36.54 | sjansen | although IIRC, xbmodder is an RHCE |
| 17:36.59 | fishyfire | i was getting premature end fo script errors last night |
| 17:37.01 | ScytheBlade1 | A+ come a dime a dozen |
| 17:37.28 | xbmodder | sjansen, yes I am.... |
| 17:37.47 | sjansen | Frankly part of the reason I wouldn't do it is concern about long term commitment. |
| 17:38.08 | xbmodder | RHCE was pretty easy -- So your saying if you saw a teenager with RHCE & CCNA you might actually *look* at hiring him? |
| 17:38.19 | sjansen | What happens 6 months from now when you decide the work is boring? What happens when you have midterm coming up? What happens when you leave for college? |
| 17:38.44 | elg | or when you get a rich girlfriend? |
| 17:39.03 | elg | sjansen: have you tried looking in the rails logs, like log/development.log or log/production.log? |
| 17:39.09 | ScytheBlade1 | <elg> or when you get a rich girlfriend? <-- and you come back begging for your job back three months later? |
| 17:39.44 | xbmodder | ah, true. |
| 17:40.33 | elg | sjansen: and don't forget the permissions thing that bit me a week or so ago. that was claiming "premature end of script" |
| 17:40.47 | elg | there was more info in /var/log/secure.log or auth.log or something |
| 17:41.39 | xbmodder | sjansen, how about for a short-term (3 month) consulting job? |
| 17:41.44 | sjansen | permissions thing? auth.log is clean |
| 17:42.26 | elg | it was the suexec problem, my .cgi was not owned by the primary user and primary group |
| 17:42.33 | sjansen | xbmodder: I'd be more inclined to do it during the summer. Or if you have references from people you've already done computer work for. |
| 17:42.35 | elg | actually it was owned by the primary user, just not his primary group |
| 17:42.39 | elg | and have appropriate permissions |
| 17:43.03 | xbmodder | sjansen, I haven't got any work I can use for referals all over the internet. |
| 17:43.27 | xbmodder | sjansen, and I've had no contact since then |
| 17:46.16 | sjansen | xbmodder: yup, getting your foot in the door is hard |
| 17:46.35 | ScytheBlade1 | xbmodder, I lucked out...I asked my neighbors, and they gave me jobs to do. One of which eventually wound up with me installing, configuring, and maitaining a web-based software program, to track employee's hours via cell phone browser |
| 17:46.53 | ScytheBlade1 | All you need to "start" is someone who you know, who's willing to let you do something |
| 17:46.58 | ScytheBlade1 | Work well and hard, get a good referral |
| 17:48.00 | ScytheBlade1 | and I can now put "Worked for LJC, independantly owned consturuction company managing web-based employee portal" |
| 17:49.15 | ScytheBlade1 | he had good timing with that ;) |
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| 17:59.52 | sjansen | O(&%)*&T)O&T |
| 18:11.22 | elg | xbmodder: do something for free, or almost free, if you have to |
| 18:36.33 | bigdog_ut | elg i got it all working |
| 18:37.49 | elg | good |
| 18:45.47 | scott_ | anyone have an hp49g? |
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| 18:52.40 | elg | ok, this is wierd. ldapsearch ... uid=zaphod returns no results, but ldapsearch ... objectClass=* | grep zaphod returns this |
| 18:52.53 | elg | # zaphod, People, wencor.com |
| 18:52.54 | elg | dn: uid=zaphod,ou=People,dc=wencor,dc=com |
| 18:52.54 | elg | uid: zaphod |
| 18:52.54 | elg | homeDirectory: /home/zaphod |
| 18:53.07 | elg | am I just going insane? the same query (uid=zaphod) works on the other ldap server |
| 18:53.15 | elg | and the config files are almost identical |
| 18:54.42 | elg | aha. I had to run slapindex |
| 19:00.40 | sjansen | So BYU plays New Mexico tonight? |
| 19:00.59 | sjansen | I'm sure we'll crush them. Everyone knows that anyone from NM is a hopeless loser. |
| 19:01.24 | elg | UNM? mostly true |
| 19:01.55 | sjansen | ~lart elg for being a party pooper |
| 19:02.11 | sjansen | not good enough, I want violence! |
| 19:02.13 | sjansen | ~lart elg for being a party pooper |
| 19:02.19 | sjansen | BAH! |
| 19:11.38 | findlay | UVSC::CS-404 has the largest CRT I've ever seen in my life |
| 19:11.51 | findlay | it has about a million viewable inches |
| 19:14.04 | sjansen | ~convert 1000000 inches to miles |
| 19:14.20 | fishyfire | WOW! |
| 19:17.09 | elg | friends, we have ldap replication. |
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| 19:17.25 | sjansen | ~reward elg |
| 19:17.38 | sjansen | okay, fine |
| 19:17.42 | sjansen | ~punish elg |
| 19:17.43 | ibot | ACTION forces elg to install and use Windows |
| 19:18.05 | sjansen | elg: sorry, not by choice, ibot_ made me do it |
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| 19:43.16 | findlay | well, ... it's bigger than a projection screen |
| 19:44.15 | findlay | ~convert 1000000 inches to parsecs |
| 19:44.35 | findlay | see, not that big at all |
| 19:45.55 | xbmodder | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:47.42 | findlay | ~convert 10 megabytes to yottabytes |
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| 19:48.21 | findlay | hey, what do you know xbmodder that's only 1e-14 yottobytes. What's to complain about? |
| 19:49.33 | findlay | ~convert Plank length to Yottaparsecs |
| 19:51.09 | findlay | ~convert 1.616e-35 meters to Yottaparsecs |
| 19:51.26 | findlay | ~convert 1.616e-35 meters to parsecs |
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| 19:56.50 | findlay | Newsome: when do you think SCO vs IBM will come to trial? |
| 19:57.09 | Newsome | I think it's scheduled for early 2007 |
| 19:57.20 | findlay | oh |
| 19:57.31 | Newsome | yeah :( |
| 19:57.40 | Newsome | haha |
| 19:57.54 | fishyfire | lol |
| 19:58.11 | Newsome | yeah, Jury Trial is supposed to begin February 26, 2007 |
| 19:59.02 | Newsome | although I expect that much of it will be disposed of through Summary Judgment well before that. |
| 19:59.32 | findlay | not much of a case left |
| 20:00.06 | findlay | or much left for speculation of conspiracy and treachery |
| 20:00.34 | sjansen | Newsome: Wish I coulda been there yesterday. Sounds like the hearing was fun. |
| 20:00.36 | Newsome | the court was clearly not happy with SCO yesterday |
| 20:00.42 | Newsome | sjansen: it was a good one |
| 20:02.12 | Newsome | Wells kept interrupting SCO and asking them tough questions, which they never answered |
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| 20:05.39 | sjansen | o/~ I love rock and roll! Put another dime in the jukebox baby. ~/o |
| 20:07.06 | Newsome | SCO kept trying to paint IBM as not obeying the court's orders, but Wells stated very clearly that IBM had done things right, and that SCO was misinterpreting everything. She was clearly not happy |
| 20:07.46 | hans | wells is the judge? |
| 20:07.55 | Newsome | Magistrate Judge |
| 20:16.47 | hans | so what's the latest? what has been done and what is yet to be done, before it's all over? |
| 20:17.38 | Newsome | hans: did you read about the hearing yesterday? |
| 20:17.59 | hans | i'm reading about it on groklaw now |
| 20:19.00 | Newsome | okay. The two most recent articles should give everyone a pretty good idea what's left |
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| 20:37.52 | goozbach | ~praise tene |
| 20:37.55 | ibot | All hail tene! |
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| 20:41.32 | xbmodder_firefox | mheath: you here? |
| 20:41.34 | xbmodder_firefox | ~seen mheath |
| 20:41.41 | ibot | mheath is currently on #utah |
| 20:42.45 | xbmodder_firefox | anyone good at making mock-ups? |
| 20:43.13 | sjansen | you're going to have to say mock-ups of what |
| 20:43.20 | sjansen | mock-ups of a building |
| 20:43.31 | sjansen | mock-ups of an advertising campaign |
| 20:43.33 | sjansen | etc. |
| 20:44.25 | xbmodder_firefox | http://getafreelancer.com/projects/PHP-Perl-CGI/Webserver-management.html |
| 20:44.25 | xbmodder_firefox | of that |
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| 21:08.29 | maquis | grumble, grubmle grumble |
| 21:08.42 | fishyfire | test went that well huh? |
| 21:08.47 | maquis | well.. |
| 21:09.14 | maquis | i hate multiple choice sections of tests |
| 21:10.19 | fishyfire | eww... i'm sorry |
| 21:10.24 | fishyfire | that's never fun |
| 21:10.44 | maquis | gah... |
| 21:10.48 | maquis | they're not up yet |
| 21:13.41 | maquis | now it's time to do homework and start studying for my bio test for next week |
| 21:21.48 | tensai | maquis: but you have the essentials, right? like foie grois and maitake mushrooms? |
| 21:21.58 | levi | I think teachers are often under the impression that multiple choice questions are easy to make. Judging by the vast numbers of really bad multiple choice questions I've seen, I must conclude that they are not easy to make at all. |
| 21:22.04 | maquis | tensai: nope |
| 21:22.15 | maquis | levi: they're pretty bad... |
| 21:22.22 | maquis | better than some true/false.... |
| 21:22.25 | maquis | but still... |
| 21:22.33 | levi | tensai: Have you got yourself some arborio rice yet? :) |
| 21:22.52 | tensai | levi: I looked at Walmart when I was there, but they didn't have any |
| 21:22.53 | maquis | no... i've got some regular white rice... |
| 21:23.23 | maquis | main thing i need is probably milk right now |
| 21:23.25 | fishyfire | i have some brown rice.... |
| 21:23.25 | levi | tensai: You need to be more adventurous in your shopping venues. :) |
| 21:23.36 | maquis | fishyfire: nice :) |
| 21:23.43 | maquis | actually... i do have one thing i can make |
| 21:23.47 | fishyfire | ? |
| 21:23.48 | levi | brown rice is good, but not for risotto! |
| 21:23.59 | levi | maquis: Rice w/butter! |
| 21:24.05 | maquis | fishyfire: i think i have some chicken in the freezer... |
| 21:24.07 | levi | maquis: Or rice w/out butter! |
| 21:24.18 | maquis | and i've got some sweet and sour sauce |
| 21:24.23 | fishyfire | oh nice |
| 21:24.28 | maquis | :) |
| 21:24.31 | fishyfire | i have some white rice in there too.... |
| 21:24.35 | fishyfire | somewhere |
| 21:25.13 | levi | maquis: Any veggies? |
| 21:25.56 | tensai | levi: yeah, I need to get out more. but the long grain rice does ok so I'm not that worried about it |
| 21:26.04 | maquis | levi: i have a can of corn and a can of green beans left |
| 21:26.19 | levi | Ew, canned veggies. |
| 21:26.30 | tensai | mmm. corn, green beans, rice and frozen chicken. |
| 21:27.59 | tensai | maquis: I'd go for grilled chicken and rice. over a gas/charcoal grill if you've got one. |
| 21:28.05 | tensai | which I doubt you do |
| 21:37.23 | maquis | tensai: i don't... |
| 21:37.25 | maquis | sorry |
| 21:37.30 | maquis | it does sound good, though |
| 21:38.01 | tensai | still, it's decent in a frying pan. little oil, some garlic and crushed red pepper flakes. |
| 21:38.33 | levi | Mmm, garlic. |
| 21:38.54 | maquis | tensai: i'm a college student |
| 21:39.07 | maquis | i don't have garlic and red pepper flakes lying around, unfortunately |
| 21:39.22 | maquis | i do have a cool idea for something i'm going to make sometime when i've got some spices... |
| 21:39.27 | tensai | maquis: salt and pepper? |
| 21:39.50 | sjansen | tensai: probably not, but she's probably got some peanut butter she could substitue |
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| 21:41.47 | maquis | sjansen: i actually do'nt have any peanut butter... |
| 21:42.00 | maquis | and i do think i have salt and pepper someplace |
| 21:42.39 | maquis | so, my idea is... |
| 21:42.58 | maquis | i saw this thing on the canadian food network where the guy put all hte necessary herbs on a chicken |
| 21:43.06 | maquis | then made a basic flour+water dough |
| 21:43.13 | maquis | and put it around the chicken |
| 21:43.16 | maquis | looked really tasty |
| 21:46.08 | sjansen | )(*)(^)((P*Y*&%(;2~#( |
| 21:46.42 | sjansen | I've spent all O*&^)( day fighting )(&T)(&^) rails. |
| 21:47.40 | sjansen | I mean it's ridiculous. Ruby is such a wonderful language, why can't the infrastructure built on top of it be just as beautiful? |
| 21:48.23 | sjansen | It's enough to make me reconsider perl. |
| 21:48.33 | levi | Is the punctuation there significant, or just random shift-number-key pressing? |
| 21:49.35 | sjansen | random )(*)(*Y)(U just like all O(*Y)(Y*&T) random problems I've been having with rails |
| 21:50.26 | sjansen | ~attack levi |
| 21:50.28 | ibot | ACTION grabs a pen, screams like she's possessed, and begins chasing levi |
| 22:00.52 | levi | sjansen: What sort of random problems? |
| 22:01.15 | sjansen | lighttpd doesn't seem to be passing request information to rails |
| 22:01.42 | sjansen | after restarting lighttpd, the rails listeners max the cpu for about 20 seconds then they just go away |
| 22:02.21 | sjansen | when used with apache, sometimes dispatch.fcgi executes succesfully, sometimes it doesn't |
| 22:02.31 | sjansen | can't seem to find any rhyme or reason for it |
| 22:02.52 | sjansen | various other problems |
| 22:03.12 | sjansen | documentation is sparse, and when docs there are don't seemt to fit my reality as I'm experiencing it |
| 22:05.01 | findlay | maquis: that sounds way to sophisticated for findlay |
| 22:06.14 | levi | sjansen: Heh. So much for the magic of RoR, I guess. |
| 22:06.39 | levi | I haven't got an opinion on RoR, as I've never attempted to use it. |
| 22:06.42 | Tene | Catalyst! |
| 22:06.43 | findlay | sounds like ruby is getting derailed |
| 22:07.02 | findlay | Tene: ha |
| 22:07.13 | Tene | <3 catalyst |
| 22:07.39 | levi | So, a programmer has a problem. He thinks, "I know, I'll use perl to solve it!" Now he has two problems. |
| 22:07.42 | findlay | congradulations levi for applying freenode approved techniques to the situation at hand |
| 22:07.52 | findlay | ~award levi |
| 22:10.21 | findlay | although it could always be interesting from an academic point of view to apply a language not commonly thought of as supporting a feasible paradigm to the need |
| 22:11.51 | levi | 'supporting a feasible paradigm' <- paradigm of what? |
| 22:12.02 | findlay | once we close our routes of investigation our knowledge becomes entrapped both by a smugness of possesing all the answers and assuming that those answers are the only right answers |
| 22:12.22 | Tene | ~smack findlay |
| 22:12.27 | ibot | ACTION smacks findlay upside the head. |
| 22:12.32 | findlay | levi: a language may not be thought of as suitable for a particular problem |
| 22:13.57 | levi | perl is suitable for most computing problems, in the sense that it is capable of producing an acceptable output. So is a Turing machine, or at least a finite approximation of one. |
| 22:13.58 | sjansen | levi: a findaly may not be thought of as being appropriate to a particular fish |
| 22:15.18 | findlay | the instant we stop searching for new questions in favor of just solving problems, knowledge will stagnate |
| 22:15.48 | levi | But stagnating fish create fish sauce! And what would the world be like without fish sauce? |
| 22:16.09 | sjansen | less disgusting? |
| 22:16.11 | findlay | fish? is that like herring? |
| 22:16.34 | levi | Typically smaller fish, I think, like sardines. |
| 22:16.35 | findlay | I know I have to feed herring to tux every now and then when he gets hungry |
| 22:16.47 | levi | I imagine they decompose more quickly. |
| 22:17.23 | levi | sjansen: It's a common ingredient in Thai food. I love Thai food. |
| 22:19.25 | findlay | what about clams, don't they have perl? |
| 22:19.51 | levi | findlay: No, but clms do. |
| 22:20.43 | levi | findlay: Unfortunately, they are rare to the point of not existing in the real world. |
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| 23:04.13 | tensai | ~lart mysql replication |
| 23:06.18 | maquis | keep clam :) |
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| 23:17.24 | RyanE | maquis: which ivars have you eaten at? |
| 23:17.34 | fishyfire | anyone have experience with cgi script stuff? |
| 23:17.43 | maquis | seattle a few times... edmonds once or twice... |
| 23:17.51 | maquis | usually the mukilteo one, though |
| 23:18.01 | RyanE | there are 3 in seattle, I believe... House of Clams, Salmon House, and one other... |
| 23:18.07 | maquis | hmmm |
| 23:18.10 | maquis | the one on the pier |
| 23:18.15 | RyanE | House of Clams. |
| 23:18.19 | maquis | mmk |
| 23:18.29 | RyanE | all of them are nice. Good food. You're making me hungry. |
| 23:18.54 | maquis | it's about 5 minutes from my house if you don't get stuck in ferry traffic |
| 23:19.03 | RyanE | where is mukilteo? |
| 23:19.14 | maquis | do you know where everett is? |
| 23:19.31 | RyanE | sounds familiar, but probably not |
| 23:19.38 | maquis | snohomish? |
| 23:19.43 | maquis | mmm... |
| 23:19.49 | maquis | ignore snohomish... that won't help |
| 23:19.52 | RyanE | hehe. I know that Seattle is north of Portland. :) |
| 23:20.08 | maquis | in essence, you ump on I5 and go north for a little while |
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| 23:20.18 | RyanE | north of Seattle, then? |
| 23:20.18 | maquis | 20-60 minutes dependent on traffic |
| 23:20.28 | maquis | yup |
| 23:20.46 | maquis | beautiful city |
| 23:20.55 | maquis | ferry that goes over to whidbey island |
| 23:21.00 | RyanE | A roommate and I went to Seattle over summer break when i was a student at the Y. It was a blast. |
| 23:21.11 | maquis | fun |
| 23:21.23 | RyanE | took a tent trailer, camped at KOA's. cheap and fun. |
| 23:21.34 | maquis | haha |
| 23:21.47 | maquis | you should've gone over and camped in the san juans... |
| 23:22.14 | RyanE | we only went for a week, lots of driving. Hit Portland, Seattle, and then down the coast to CA. |
| 23:22.23 | RyanE | then across NV to get back home |
| 23:22.25 | maquis | wow... |
| 23:23.30 | RyanE | We went up there the week the Portland Temple was dedicated, so it's been a while. '89. |
| 23:24.19 | maquis | hmmm |
| 23:24.24 | maquis | my parents and i went for that |
| 23:24.36 | maquis | all i remember is that the little white booties were cool |
| 23:25.47 | RyanE | hehe |
| 23:26.07 | maquis | i was 5... what do you exepct? |
| 23:26.23 | RyanE | we didn't get to go to the dedication, as we hadn't planned ahead, but we got another driver for the trip up from the ride board in the Wilk. |
| 23:26.32 | RyanE | jsmith: good presentation (again). Sorry I had to skip out early. |
| 23:26.39 | jsmith | np |
| 23:26.49 | maquis | we weren't there for the dedication,just for the open house... :) |
| 23:27.13 | RyanE | jsmith: any problem using the 'unlocked' Vonage PAP2's with Asterisk? |
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| 23:36.44 | jsmith | RyanE: I have no idea... give me one and I'll try. |
| 23:36.54 | jsmith | RyanE: (I doubt there's a problem though, if it's unlocked) |
| 23:38.57 | RyanE | jsmith: they have been on sale this week at Staples for $50 with $50 rebate. Don't bother checking... There aren't any left. :) |
| 23:39.29 | RyanE | and that $50 rebate did not require Vonage activation. |
| 23:43.45 | jsmith | Which Staples? |
| 23:45.05 | RyanE | Yesterday at Lunchtime, I went to the Sandy Store, they were out. I went downtown store, they had 1, and the computer store said Park City had 3, but when they called PC, they only really had 1. I bought both. All the other stores he checked around the valley had none. |
| 23:45.23 | RyanE | s/computer store/store computer/ :) |
| 23:45.39 | RyanE | and they're out of stock online as well. |
| 23:46.13 | RyanE | if I'd have known last sunday, I'd have picked up a few more for some family members. |
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