| 00:05.26 | xbmodder | ScytheBlade1, no... |
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| 00:07.37 | maquis | goozbach: where are you guys? |
| 00:08.44 | ScytheBlade1 | xbmodder, that's disappointing |
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| 01:12.25 | graphyx | good evening |
| 01:16.30 | mheath | Hmm. Can anyone think of any reasosn that Josef Stalin led to the United States getting involved in World War II? |
| 01:16.41 | mheath | *reasons |
| 01:17.01 | graphyx | sounds like you are doing homework to me... |
| 01:17.17 | graphyx | Anyone know how to split the output to go to a file and screen with just shell commands? |
| 01:17.33 | graphyx | ie> command > file and screen? |
| 01:17.43 | graphyx | I want the output logged but also see it. |
| 01:17.48 | mheath | graphyx: see the Advanced Bash Scripting Guide. It goes into that. |
| 01:17.56 | graphyx | where would that be? |
| 01:18.30 | mheath | graphyx: google is your friend. |
| 01:18.43 | mheath | Searching for "Advanced Bash Scripting Guide" brings up links to literally hundreds of mirrors. |
| 01:19.01 | graphyx | you are right. |
| 01:19.06 | graphyx | He is a good buddy of mine. |
| 01:19.10 | graphyx | I shouldn't have let him down. |
| 01:22.17 | mheath | hmmm. actually, maybe it doesn't go into that.... |
| 01:25.35 | graphyx | don't worry about it. Not really that important or I would have looked into it on my own. |
| 01:26.03 | graphyx | probably something along the lines of cmd > logfile > tty01 or something.. |
| 01:28.12 | maquis | ~smite scheme |
| 01:28.13 | ibot | ACTION wields the mighty blade of Argothax and cleaves scheme from crown to sole. |
| 01:28.18 | maquis | ~beat scheme |
| 01:28.20 | ibot | ACTION beats scheme with a large stick. |
| 01:28.20 | graphyx | 330 eh? |
| 01:28.22 | mheath | Let me rebeat my question.... |
| 01:28.27 | mheath | Hmm. Can anyone think of any reasosn that Josef Stalin led to the United States getting involved in World War II? |
| 01:28.40 | mheath | *repeat :P |
| 01:28.48 | graphyx | umm.. cause he wanted to? |
| 01:29.43 | mheath | No; I mean, he wasn't the one attacking the United States, and I didn't think the United States really cared that the SU was involved in the war. |
| 01:29.55 | maquis | mheath: i could probably bs something to that, but i'm guessing you want something a bit better than that... |
| 01:30.15 | maquis | ~lart murphy's law |
| 01:30.19 | mheath | maquis: I think I'm going to have to bs |
| 01:30.25 | maquis | mheath: :) |
| 01:30.28 | mheath | I've had a college level course on European History, and I don't know the answer to that :P |
| 01:30.43 | maquis | mheath: my best bits of bs came from debate tournaments |
| 01:31.05 | maquis | "according to the february 31st issue of newsweek..." |
| 01:31.05 | mheath | maquis: I wanted to do debate |
| 01:31.37 | mheath | Unfortunately, our debate teacher was a longwinded, conspiracy-driven, dwells-on-memories-of-his child moron |
| 01:31.49 | mheath | Who's convinced that he's gods gift to politics |
| 01:31.58 | maquis | mheath: it was fun... although spending 10+ hours during the week, plus a good 30 hours on the weekend is a long time |
| 01:32.01 | mheath | We never accomplished *anything* any either of the classes that I had him for |
| 01:32.10 | mheath | *in either |
| 01:32.12 | maquis | mheath: we didn't have a class, but our coach was pretty cool |
| 01:32.23 | graphyx | mheath... here is how you can do it. |
| 01:32.31 | mheath | maquis: eh, he was cool |
| 01:32.43 | graphyx | cmd > logfile & watch -n 1 'tail -n 50 logfile' |
| 01:32.45 | maquis | our coach was a 26-year-old guy who was working at m$ research (80+ hours/week), and had a masters in CS from CMU... |
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| 01:32.48 | mheath | But you couldn't learn anything in his classes other than his experiences organizing prom during his senior year of highschool |
| 01:32.59 | maquis | :) |
| 01:33.26 | maquis | our coach paid tournament fees out-of-pocket because the school wouldn't give us a large-enough budget |
| 01:33.48 | maquis | the chess team got a big budget because they were considered a "sport" |
| 01:33.58 | mheath | I think he makes up a lot of stuff, or at least stretches the truth, too... |
| 01:34.01 | maquis | (they got that distinction after taking 2nd in nationals) |
| 01:34.12 | mheath | The "Carl Rove stole my girlfriend" story, for example. |
| 01:35.40 | maquis | there was an english teacher at my high school who, when she went to the school, got asked to prom by bill gates and told him "i'd rather stay home alone than go with you" :) |
| 01:36.07 | maquis | (that's a *true* story...) |
| 01:36.10 | mheath | And the "I handled the publishing for the advertising of the first sattelite TV company" |
| 01:36.16 | maquis | haha |
| 01:36.21 | maquis | did he invent the internet too? |
| 01:36.50 | graphyx | no that was al gore |
| 01:37.09 | mheath | maquis: no, but he handled the political campaigns of countless Utah politicians |
| 01:37.20 | mheath | (Which makes it surprising that his name only comes up twice when you google for him) |
| 01:37.23 | mheath | =P |
| 01:37.32 | graphyx | It was before the internet was around. |
| 01:37.33 | maquis | hahaha |
| 01:37.45 | maquis | ~seen levi |
| 01:37.51 | ibot | levi <n=levi@66.239.25.2.ptr.us.xo.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #utah, 2h 48m 46s ago, saying: 'Ugh, I didn't break the script, I just made it output to the wrong file, so I was reading an old broken output. :/'. |
| 01:38.22 | mheath | (one, election results of a school board election that he lost by a landslide.....and two, some Deseret News story about how he talked a student out of committing suicide) |
| 01:38.25 | maquis | ibot: thanks |
| 01:38.25 | ibot | no worries, maquis |
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| 01:38.48 | maquis | ~invoke levi |
| 01:39.07 | graphyx | I don't think that ibot knows how to do that command... |
| 01:39.20 | maquis | graphyx: no... but it'd sure be nice if he did... |
| 01:39.26 | maquis | graphyx: do you know scheme? |
| 01:39.26 | graphyx | We will have to get Timriker to put that one it. |
| 01:39.31 | graphyx | I took 330 yes... |
| 01:39.43 | graphyx | but I will be limit use since I am suppose to be working. |
| 01:39.50 | graphyx | but a quick answer I can try.. |
| 01:39.50 | maquis | oh... |
| 01:39.54 | mheath | Then again, he has a huge case full of big debate trophies |
| 01:39.58 | mheath | so he can't have done too pad |
| 01:40.07 | maquis | well... it's more of a "what am i doing" question :) |
| 01:40.13 | mheath | *too bad |
| 01:40.17 | graphyx | shoot.. I can only say I don't konw.. |
| 01:40.23 | maquis | graphyx: tis ok |
| 01:40.48 | mheath | Hey, question |
| 01:40.52 | graphyx | I mean let me see if I can even recall that class. |
| 01:40.59 | maquis | graphyx: :) |
| 01:41.03 | mheath | Is it possible for one to major in Business Administration and minor in Computer Science? |
| 01:41.12 | mheath | Or do majors+minors have to be closely related? |
| 01:41.18 | maquis | mheath: my guess is that it depends on where you go to school |
| 01:41.21 | graphyx | yeah. |
| 01:41.25 | xbmodder | mheath, yeah. |
| 01:41.29 | maquis | i don't think that there is a cs minor at byu... |
| 01:41.31 | graphyx | You can put what ever minor with whatever major. |
| 01:41.35 | graphyx | provided they have a minor program. |
| 01:41.41 | maquis | emphasis is a focus within the major |
| 01:41.42 | mheath | graphyx: Ah! Good :) |
| 01:41.47 | maquis | minor is completely separate |
| 01:41.54 | maquis | ie, i considered minoring in chinese |
| 01:41.58 | mheath | xbmodder: for future reference, my college questions are directed at college people. |
| 01:42.02 | elg | there is a cs minor |
| 01:42.03 | mheath | Not at 14 year old teens. |
| 01:42.07 | elg | cs teatching or something |
| 01:42.07 | maquis | elg: there is? |
| 01:42.10 | maquis | nope |
| 01:42.11 | graphyx | elg: what school? |
| 01:42.16 | elg | at byui |
| 01:42.16 | xbmodder | mheath, ok. |
| 01:42.17 | maquis | elg: they killed that program |
| 01:42.18 | elg | er, byu |
| 01:42.22 | elg | since when? |
| 01:42.30 | maquis | last year, i think |
| 01:42.49 | elg | afaict there is no emphasis in the cs dept |
| 01:43.01 | maquis | yeah... nothing official... |
| 01:43.05 | elg | other than some handwaving you might perform on your own |
| 01:43.17 | mheath | Well, let me ask this |
| 01:43.31 | elg | there of course is at other schools |
| 01:43.33 | elg | but not at BYU |
| 01:43.38 | mheath | What classes can a freshman who's minoring in CS expect to take in his first year of college? |
| 01:43.39 | maquis | mheath: ask |
| 01:43.46 | xbmodder | mheath, your a teen too ya know? |
| 01:43.53 | elg | not sure whether that's a function of the size of the dept. or organizational issue or what |
| 01:44.03 | maquis | mheath: if you can pass out of some of them, that'll help you |
| 01:44.11 | maquis | generally basic programming in some language |
| 01:44.17 | maquis | *really* basic... |
| 01:44.17 | elg | mheath: basic oo programming, basic architecture, lots of GEs |
| 01:44.20 | elg | that sort of thing |
| 01:44.21 | graphyx | being able to turn it on... |
| 01:44.23 | mheath | xbmodder: I'm going to be a highschool graduate and a college freshman in 3 months :) |
| 01:44.34 | maquis | mheath: don't put off all your GEs to the end |
| 01:44.36 | maquis | it sucks |
| 01:44.57 | xbmodder | mheath, cool. |
| 01:45.01 | mheath | elg: would having 8 credit hours in basic oo programming help wave the requirement of a basic oo programming class? |
| 01:45.03 | elg | yeah, if you think doing GEs instead of CS is boring now, wait until you're advanced. |
| 01:45.15 | elg | maybe. depends entirely on the school |
| 01:45.32 | maquis | elg: guess who's learning that the hard way this year.... |
| 01:45.38 | elg | if you can, nice. if you can't just take a heavier load since doing the assignments would be cake if you really know what you're doing |
| 01:45.59 | xbmodder | mheath, you have a website |
| 01:45.59 | elg | maquis: you? ;) |
| 01:46.09 | maquis | thankfully i have enough GEs done that I can still take CS classes... |
| 01:46.14 | maquis | but i've stopped caring about them |
| 01:46.17 | maquis | elg: yup :) |
| 01:46.40 | mheath | xbmodder: No. |
| 01:46.55 | mheath | I'm going to be stuck taking two foreign language classes |
| 01:47.13 | mheath | USU requires that you either did 2 years of foreign language in highschool, or that you have to take them during your first 30 credit hours |
| 01:49.41 | mheath | I'm nervous about my dorm roomate |
| 01:49.49 | mheath | what if its someone that I clash with completely? |
| 01:49.56 | maquis | mheath: foreign languages are *cool* |
| 01:50.06 | maquis | just take a fun one and you'll enjoy it |
| 01:50.25 | mheath | maquis: I think I'll take Japanese, if they offer that. |
| 01:50.32 | maquis | mheath: that's cool |
| 01:50.50 | maquis | mheath: don't worry too much about roommates... i'm completely different from all my roommates... |
| 01:51.03 | maquis | i've only had 1 that actually created a really bad experience |
| 01:51.19 | mheath | maquis: what style are your dorms? (Are you living in dorms?) |
| 01:51.56 | mheath | Like the "Two-to-a-room with bathrooms and living area shared by the floor"? Or a suite (two-to-a-bedroom with a living area and bathroom to two or so rooms) |
| 01:52.31 | maquis | mheath: i lived in 2-to-a-room with sink in room and big communal bathroom to the whole floor |
| 01:52.50 | maquis | and then i lived in an apartment with 6 girls, 1 bathroom, 2 sinks, a kitchen and a living room |
| 01:52.57 | maquis | (and 3 rooms) |
| 01:53.19 | maquis | and now i'm in an apartment with 4 girls, 2 bathrooms, 4 sinks, 4 bedrooms, kitchen and living room |
| 01:53.23 | maquis | so, i've done quite a few |
| 01:53.34 | xbmodder | thats cool. |
| 01:53.41 | maquis | mheath: what's yours like/ |
| 01:53.43 | maquis | ? |
| 01:53.54 | mheath | maquis: well, I'm not going to college *yet* :P |
| 01:53.57 | maquis | yes... |
| 01:54.09 | maquis | but what's it going to be like?? |
| 01:54.13 | maquis | or do you not know yet? |
| 01:54.16 | mheath | But USU's mainly got the same as what your first ones were like |
| 01:54.19 | graphyx | ok guys.. if you program any websites, don't use cart32.exe |
| 01:54.23 | xbmodder | USUs? |
| 01:54.28 | graphyx | This vulnerable is terribly insecure.. |
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| 01:54.35 | xbmodder | cart32.exe is? |
| 01:54.45 | graphyx | a shopping cart. |
| 01:54.52 | maquis | mheath: those aren't bad at all |
| 01:54.59 | xbmodder | ack. |
| 01:55.00 | mheath | maquis: they seem small |
| 01:55.04 | maquis | i much preferred it over the over-crowded apartment |
| 01:55.35 | maquis | mheath: honestly, from what i've seen, byu has *very* small dorms, but it's really not too bad |
| 01:56.24 | maquis | the most important thing is that if you and your roommate at least show decency to each other (don't play loud music when he's sleeping, be willing to turn down the lights when he's sleeping, don't use his stuff without permission, etc), everything generally works out ok |
| 01:56.29 | mheath | And I'm worried about wanting to listen to music/watch a movie when my roommate is studying, and viceversa |
| 01:56.30 | mheath | Gah |
| 01:56.34 | mheath | I'm lagging horribly |
| 01:56.36 | mheath | ~lart comcast |
| 01:57.07 | maquis | mheath: invest in headphones |
| 01:57.16 | maquis | i'm serious about that |
| 01:57.44 | xbmodder | mheath, do you have comcast enhanced? |
| 02:00.20 | xbmodder | ? |
| 02:02.29 | mheath | xbmodder: comcast enhanced? What are you talking about? |
| 02:02.56 | xbmodder | mheath, comcast released another service that is 6MB/384L |
| 02:02.57 | xbmodder | K |
| 02:03.18 | graphyx | xbmodder: what price? |
| 02:03.30 | xbmodder | 64 bucks a month |
| 02:03.42 | mheath | xbmodder: thats an upgrade to comcast's service. |
| 02:03.46 | mheath | They're doing that everywhere, for everyone |
| 02:03.53 | xbmodder | no... |
| 02:03.54 | mheath | I've already got those speeds. |
| 02:04.10 | graphyx | I only get 3Mb/s/128 up |
| 02:04.13 | graphyx | or something like that. |
| 02:04.25 | xbmodder | i tested my friends speed |
| 02:04.32 | xbmodder | its like 3/128 |
| 02:04.43 | mheath | xbmodder: it takes them a while to upgrade in some areas |
| 02:04.50 | mheath | Comcasts standard speed used to be 1.5 down |
| 02:04.53 | mheath | then it was 3 |
| 02:04.54 | mheath | then 4 |
| 02:04.58 | mheath | Now its 6 |
| 02:06.55 | maquis | w00t! |
| 02:07.00 | maquis | i think i got free-vars |
| 02:13.41 | maquis | grr |
| 02:13.45 | maquis | bound-vars has 2 errors |
| 02:22.03 | maquis | GAH |
| 02:24.15 | mheath | maquis: what are you talking about? O.o |
| 02:24.23 | graphyx | cs 330 |
| 02:24.24 | graphyx | scheme. |
| 02:24.30 | graphyx | I recognized it.. |
| 02:24.39 | graphyx | reloading.. |
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| 02:29.50 | graphyx | who are you taking 330 from anyways? |
| 02:30.38 | maquis | dr morse |
| 02:34.10 | mheath | Hmmm |
| 02:34.18 | mheath | why does Lime Wire claim to be an open source program.... |
| 02:34.23 | mheath | and have a development site... |
| 02:34.38 | mheath | Yet try to pressure you into signing up for a professional version? |
| 02:35.56 | graphyx | that's their business model. |
| 02:35.56 | mheath | But wait |
| 02:35.57 | mheath | if I download the source and compile it |
| 02:35.57 | mheath | Do I get the pro version for free? O.o |
| 02:35.57 | graphyx | you might not get all the features that they put in the professional version. |
| 02:36.07 | graphyx | Since they coded it they can release it under a different licence any time they want to. |
| 02:36.14 | graphyx | only the ones using the GPL to code it can't do that. |
| 02:36.17 | mheath | I know |
| 02:36.21 | graphyx | Ok. |
| 02:36.32 | mheath | I just find it kind of annoying that they pretend to be the "Best open source p2p program" |
| 02:36.47 | graphyx | That is just publicity. |
| 02:37.26 | maquis | GAH!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 02:37.31 | maquis | ~invoke levi quickly |
| 02:37.48 | maquis | ~destroy scheme |
| 02:37.49 | ibot | no |
| 02:38.33 | maquis | ibot: why not? |
| 02:38.35 | ibot | because I don't like you |
| 02:38.47 | maquis | ibot: :( |
| 02:38.48 | ibot | somebody said ( was feeling blue |
| 02:38.54 | graphyx | ~emulate gir |
| 02:38.56 | ibot | you SHALL not pass! .. he went that way. |
| 02:39.10 | maquis | ~kill scheme |
| 02:39.12 | ibot | ACTION shoots a ionized pseudoquark gun at scheme |
| 02:40.38 | maquis | ~beat the kid that said this assignment's really easy and only takes 20 minutes |
| 02:40.39 | ibot | ACTION beats the kid that said this assignment's really easy and only takes 20 minutes with a large stick. |
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| 07:22.51 | xbmodder | Does anyone here know of any good onscreen keyboards? Preferably one with KDE compatibility (as in QT, nice little shortcuts, etc) |
| 07:47.08 | findlay | wow, my irssi session is still going |
| 07:47.22 | TheDiff | yes, irssi is unstoppable |
| 07:48.45 | findlay | I'm glad everyone has blathered out their fondest premises and ignorances for my future reference in my irssi log |
| 07:49.22 | findlay | seemed like a good idea at the time |
| 07:50.32 | TheDiff | haha |
| 07:50.44 | findlay | maquis still here? |
| 07:50.47 | findlay | ~wake maquis |
| 07:50.49 | ibot | maquis: GOOD MORNING!!! |
| 07:54.27 | TheDiff | ~wake me |
| 07:54.28 | ibot | thediff: GOOD MORNING!!! |
| 07:54.39 | TheDiff | ~wake you |
| 07:54.40 | ibot | you: GOOD MORNING!!! |
| 07:58.18 | findlay | ibot: good night |
| 07:58.19 | ibot | good night, sleep tight, dont let the bed bugs bite... Love you lots, and take care of yourself... |
| 07:58.45 | findlay | take care of yourself, ibot, I guess that's what you |
| 07:58.52 | findlay | 're best at isn't it? |
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| 14:53.13 | roscivs | up early for being awake so late, maquis |
| 14:53.35 | maquis | roscivs: not really... usually when i get to bed at that time, i'm usually up by 7 |
| 14:53.54 | roscivs | yikes |
| 14:54.01 | roscivs | i need my 8 hours sleep :-) |
| 14:54.08 | maquis | roscivs: 8 hours???? |
| 14:54.16 | roscivs | yeah. i'm weird, I know. |
| 14:54.26 | maquis | i don't think i've gotten 8 hours for a couple years unless i was sick |
| 14:54.33 | roscivs | I can get by with 7, maybe, for about a day, |
| 14:54.46 | roscivs | but the day after that I'll just fall asleep no matter where I am, |
| 14:54.55 | roscivs | class, work, the moment I get home, whatever. |
| 14:54.56 | maquis | roscivs: my record was 1/night for a week.... i can't last much longer than that... |
| 14:55.01 | roscivs | wow. |
| 14:55.40 | roscivs | I wish I was one of those people who could survive on little sleep. |
| 14:58.01 | elg | maquis: 10 |
| 15:00.46 | maquis | elg: thanks |
| 15:00.50 | maquis | it was 9 in wa |
| 15:01.16 | maquis | roscivs: it's really not quite that great to be able to survive on that schedule |
| 15:01.29 | roscivs | heh, why not? |
| 15:02.00 | maquis | sleep deprivation can be physically painful |
| 15:02.40 | roscivs | well, true, but I'm sure sleep deprivation for me starts at about 5-6 hours a night, whereas sleep deprivation for you is more around 1-2 hours a night |
| 15:03.07 | roscivs | I bet if you get 6 hours a night for a month you'll have no problems, right? |
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| 15:22.41 | maquis | roscivs: i've done that for a couple years... :) |
| 15:22.50 | maquis | it's just a matter of getting used to it |
| 15:36.17 | mheath | Gah, I hope I don't work a double shift today |
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| 16:20.23 | maquis | it sounds like an interesting problem to solve :) |
| 16:30.30 | goozbach | yet another day of teaching people to use snopes.com |
| 16:30.40 | maquis | goozbach: ?? |
| 16:30.42 | elg | do tell |
| 16:31.15 | maquis | goozbach: which brother |
| 16:31.17 | maquis | ? |
| 16:31.36 | goozbach | every time he does, I reply to everyone he send the message to and post the snopes links which debunks it. |
| 16:31.43 | goozbach | the 17yr old |
| 16:32.00 | maquis | hmmmm |
| 16:32.16 | maquis | i would think that he would learn better than that |
| 16:33.17 | goozbach | I even send off a link to a page I wrote telling people about snopes and how to use it |
| 16:33.20 | goozbach | http://www.friocorte.com/interesting/snopes |
| 16:33.39 | maquis | :) |
| 16:34.20 | goozbach | it's become my life's goal to rid the world of these chain emails and hoaxes |
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| 16:44.19 | bonez39 | I create a document, a letter, with vim...and then print it with 'lp filename' it comes out ok, except all the words "for", "this", "and" and "friend" are all bold, while the rest of the text is normal..... |
| 16:44.27 | bonez39 | what would make lp output the print this way? |
| 16:45.01 | elg | sounds like it's syntax highlighting it |
| 16:45.20 | elg | you might look at using enscript |
| 16:45.22 | maquis | bonez39: what's the extension on the file? |
| 16:45.28 | bonez39 | are those words C or C++ keywords? |
| 16:45.35 | elg | yes |
| 16:45.36 | bonez39 | maquis, no extension... |
| 16:45.44 | bonez39 | and the word "friend" too? |
| 16:45.45 | elg | try giving it a .txt extension |
| 16:45.45 | maquis | bonez39: my guess is that it thinks it's a shell script of some sort |
| 16:45.50 | elg | friend is, yes |
| 16:46.04 | bonez39 | I guess the option -o prettyprinting is causing that.. |
| 16:46.15 | bonez39 | strange |
| 16:46.16 | elg | but it might not with a proper extension |
| 16:46.20 | bonez39 | ok.. |
| 16:46.53 | bonez39 | ok...trying it with changed extension |
| 16:47.43 | elg | also, vim has :hardcopy |
| 16:48.27 | bonez39 | well, even leaving the prettyprint option off....still made the keywords print bold... |
| 16:48.38 | bonez39 | strange, but ok |
| 16:49.04 | bonez39 | is vim's :hardcopy a print command within vim? |
| 16:49.11 | elg | yes |
| 16:49.20 | elg | try this too: |
| 16:49.23 | elg | enscript myfile.txt |
| 16:49.50 | bonez39 | ok |
| 16:50.26 | tensai | elg: I got a toll free number today |
| 16:51.49 | bonez39 | elg, thanks a bunch |
| 16:52.08 | bonez39 | elg, the enscript worked..and added in borders to keep the words from getting truncated |
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| 17:03.07 | elg | tensai: cool |
| 17:06.47 | bonez39 | tensai, where'd you get your toll free number? |
| 17:07.15 | bonez39 | tensai, and is that toll free as in free to you, or free to those who call your number? |
| 17:10.50 | elg | the latter. it's 2 cents a minute |
| 17:10.52 | elg | nufone |
| 17:10.54 | elg | nufone.net |
| 17:12.29 | bonez39 | I hear good thingsa bout nufone |
| 17:22.57 | tensai | elg: I'm trying my hand at rails |
| 17:26.33 | elg | cool |
| 17:26.38 | elg | let me know if you have any qs |
| 17:27.13 | tensai | what's fastcgi and do I want it? |
| 17:27.50 | elg | it's just a cgi engine that doesn't have to restart everytime |
| 17:28.00 | elg | similar to the mod_perl approach, although it also works with perl code |
| 17:28.11 | elg | or any cgi |
| 17:28.28 | tensai | that's what I guessed. is it worth setting up? |
| 17:28.50 | elg | that is appropriately set up obviously. do you want it? for production. For now just use the webrick one |
| 17:28.53 | elg | e.g. script/server |
| 17:29.03 | elg | then point your browser at localhost:3000 |
| 17:29.35 | elg | it's not too hard to set up though. not nearly as bad as some make it sound |
| 17:29.53 | elg | just an appropriate apache config stanza |
| 17:30.06 | elg | and make sure the module gets loaded. then edit public/.htaccess |
| 17:30.08 | elg | that's it. |
| 17:39.20 | harleypig | is there a comparison to mod_perl somewhere that you know of? |
| 17:39.51 | harleypig | nm ... google is my friend. |
| 17:46.46 | tensai | elg: I'm getting a 404. if I disable the rewrite config in .htaccess then it works. |
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| 17:48.26 | tensai | and I get an error in the log that /var/www/home doesn't exist |
| 17:48.36 | tensai | well, of course it doesn't |
| 17:50.23 | tensai | elg: I just added the web path to the "public" dir in the rewrite config. is that right? |
| 18:08.10 | harleypig | ARGGHHH ... idiots on #perl don't know how to read a question. |
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| 18:18.06 | xbmodder | hey |
| 18:18.23 | xbmodder | harleypig, |
| 18:18.29 | harleypig | si? |
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| 18:22.07 | sjansen | ~lart OpenGroupware |
| 18:39.03 | goozbach | sjansen: what now? |
| 18:39.28 | goozbach | the new css and blazer issue? |
| 18:40.47 | sjansen | goozbach: No, the new "sometimes login just dies" issue. |
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| 18:41.25 | maquis | sjansen: fun :) |
| 18:42.44 | harleypig | A professor without a pointer my find that his lecture is pointless. |
| 18:42.53 | harleypig | ibot needs a ~pun command |
| 18:43.16 | maquis | harleypig: might find? |
| 18:43.41 | harleypig | maquis: Yeah. That's what I get for retyping it instead of copy-n-past. |
| 18:43.45 | harleypig | err ... yeah. |
| 18:43.54 | maquis | harleypig: :) |
| 18:47.00 | sjansen | ~pun harleypig |
| 18:47.11 | sjansen | ~punt harleypig |
| 18:47.12 | ibot | ACTION sends harleypig into a new timezone |
| 18:47.28 | sjansen | harleypig: Close enough for ya'? |
| 18:47.32 | harleypig | sjansen put his foot down. |
| 18:47.35 | harleypig | :> |
| 18:47.51 | maquis | ~smite harleypig |
| 18:47.52 | ibot | ACTION wields the mighty blade of Argothax and cleaves harleypig from crown to sole. |
| 18:47.55 | harleypig | pun ... punt ... one letter. |
| 18:48.15 | maquis | harleypig: that's closer than your pun was... :) |
| 18:48.31 | harleypig | :P |
| 18:51.01 | maquis | sjansen: which dark side/ |
| 18:51.06 | sjansen | python |
| 18:51.26 | maquis | that scapy program doesn't appear to be the "dark side".... |
| 18:51.56 | sjansen | for a ruby and perl fan, python is the dark side |
| 18:52.14 | maquis | do ruby or perl have programs like scapy? |
| 18:52.18 | lukfugl | naw, Java's the dark side. Python's the hippy side |
| 18:52.47 | sjansen | I hardly think that hippies would endorse enforced indentation. |
| 18:53.40 | maquis | lukfugl: http://www.secdev.org/projects/scapy/ |
| 18:53.47 | maquis | emcnabb told me about it |
| 18:53.50 | maquis | it looks pretty cool |
| 18:54.01 | lukfugl | heh, true. I was just looking for a good "wierdo" aphorism. Python has a lot of good stuff, just some wierd stuff thrown in (like significant indentation) |
| 18:54.39 | harleypig | Hippies? |
| 18:54.39 | goozbach | boring! |
| 18:54.39 | harleypig | Just cause I have a beard ... |
| 18:54.39 | maquis | (granted, i don't understand enough to see what it's good for, or what anything does..but it seems pretty cool |
| 18:54.51 | goozbach | anyone interested in going to Serenity? |
| 18:55.08 | sjansen | goozbach: when? |
| 18:55.13 | sjansen | and where? |
| 18:55.22 | lukfugl | maquis: don't know/do much about/with networking stuff (at the low level, anyways) so I can't comment on related ruby/perl libraries |
| 18:55.36 | lukfugl | goozbach: yeah, when/where? |
| 18:55.41 | maquis | lukfugl: cool |
| 18:56.09 | goozbach | I'm somethime this afternoon, and close to the SL valley |
| 18:56.22 | maquis | *parse error* |
| 18:56.42 | sjansen | I've done my laundry and printed maps for next week... |
| 18:56.43 | xbmodder | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:56.54 | sjansen | goozbach: I'm in. |
| 18:57.16 | goozbach | anyone else? |
| 18:58.02 | xbmodder | goozbach, when are you flying out to SFO? |
| 18:58.29 | goozbach | I'm actually flying to OAK |
| 18:58.38 | goozbach | and tomorrow afternoon |
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| 18:59.47 | sjansen | ~lart dpkg's strange option letters |
| 19:01.46 | lukfugl | goozbach: working today :( |
| 19:02.18 | sjansen | lukfugl: slacker |
| 19:21.50 | sjansen | ~lart gaim |
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| 19:51.05 | harleypig | I wonder what m(u|t)a's would do with an email that had From me@here.com Sat Sep 30 13:51 2005 surrounded by blank lines ... |
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| 21:38.08 | maquis | ~dict clarion call |
| 21:38.17 | maquis | ~dict clarion |
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| 22:15.01 | graphyx | good afternoon |
| 22:15.23 | maquis | graphyx: hi |
| 22:19.35 | graphyx | Enjoy conference? |
| 22:20.19 | maquis | yeah |
| 22:20.26 | maquis | especially elder holland's talk |
| 22:20.31 | maquis | you? |
| 22:20.41 | graphyx | Yeah I liked that one too. |
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| 23:37.13 | graphyx | ok quick c question. |
| 23:37.41 | graphyx | nvmn |
| 23:38.41 | graphyx | What function will print out a single character immediately? |
| 23:38.49 | graphyx | I haven't done any worthwhile coding in c in a long time. |
| 23:38.52 | graphyx | go ahead and laugh at me... |
| 23:42.53 | mheath | graphyx: http://www.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/009695399/functions/printf.html |
| 23:43.28 | graphyx | Well I have played with putchar as well. |
| 23:43.36 | graphyx | but it doesn't seem to print out the line until a newline is reached. |
| 23:43.43 | graphyx | Any ideas on how to make the out put work properly? |
| 23:45.26 | amcnabb | You'll want to flush after every write. |
| 23:45.36 | amcnabb | Or use curses or something. |
| 23:45.44 | graphyx | ok how do you flush? |
| 23:45.51 | graphyx | (besides pulling the handle...) |
| 23:45.54 | amcnabb | You can can fflush or you can set your terminal settings |
| 23:46.03 | graphyx | ok |
| 23:46.06 | graphyx | I'll try that. Thanks. |
| 23:47.00 | graphyx | nice. |
| 23:47.03 | graphyx | that did the trick. |
| 23:47.04 | amcnabb | tcsetattr() can help with setting the terminal to always flush |
| 23:47.14 | amcnabb | see y'all later |
| 23:47.23 | graphyx | I was tweaking a program that went through and checked snmp strings. |
| 23:47.34 | graphyx | But it would print out an entire line for each item it checked.. |
| 23:47.53 | graphyx | not that nice. I commented that out and just put a single dot for each send and a full line for each return. |
| 23:47.55 | graphyx | returns are rare. |
| 23:58.45 | maquis | anyone here understand BIGNUMs? |