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| 00:21.38 | goozbach | howdy from turner field |
| 00:21.54 | goozbach | go braves!!! |
| 00:26.40 | emcnabb | goozbach, Bryan and I went to the CC Factory tonight |
| 00:26.45 | emcnabb | sooo yummy |
| 00:28.25 | goozbach | nice, I'll be going later this week |
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| 00:32.08 | TheDiff|detached | go cardinals |
| 00:32.58 | goozbach | ~punch thediff |
| 00:33.01 | ibot | ACTION hits thediff like the hot kiss and the end of a wet fist |
| 00:33.21 | TheDiff | but its their year |
| 00:33.40 | goozbach | tis ok |
| 00:34.01 | goozbach | at least you didn't say yankees |
| 00:34.06 | TheDiff | well, last year was their year too |
| 00:34.16 | TheDiff | and we all saw how that turned out |
| 00:34.26 | goozbach | hah |
| 00:35.13 | goozbach | finally, another baseball fan on this channel |
| 00:35.42 | TheDiff | haha |
| 00:35.49 | TheDiff | ooh, ATL is playing colorado? |
| 00:36.07 | TheDiff | hmm, hopefully they will hit alot of homeruns, to make it interesting |
| 00:36.24 | TheDiff | otherwise, it wont be much of a matchup |
| 00:36.29 | goozbach | I'm sitting next to two bostonites |
| 00:36.43 | TheDiff | haha |
| 00:37.08 | TheDiff | well, even though the sox beat the cardinals last year, they kind of deserved it |
| 00:37.11 | TheDiff | after the curse and all |
| 00:37.25 | goozbach | laroche has hit one already |
| 00:37.30 | TheDiff | haha |
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| 00:39.23 | TheDiff | so who is gonna get the MVP, Pujols or Andruw Jones? |
| 00:39.47 | goozbach | thats a toughy |
| 00:40.02 | goozbach | you alresdy know my answer |
| 00:40.13 | goozbach | jones of course |
| 00:40.17 | TheDiff | haha |
| 00:40.19 | goozbach | :) |
| 00:41.11 | goozbach | we (the braves) are almost guarnteed to have rookie of the year too |
| 00:41.56 | goozbach | francour just hit a homer |
| 00:43.26 | goozbach | speakin of the devil |
| 00:43.51 | TheDiff | haha |
| 00:45.32 | goozbach | ~seen maquis |
| 00:45.37 | ibot | maquis is currently on #utah (14d 5h 34m 48s). Has said a total of 1689 messages. Is idling for 1h 19m 1s |
| 00:49.40 | TheDiff | has anyone used fvwm-crystal |
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| 02:13.01 | scott | I wish I had an empty frame. someone just opened our door, threw a paper airplane in, and ran off. It says "As of 10:00 pm last night WE HATE YOU! Do not have a good night!" |
| 02:13.36 | scott | What was supposed to happen last night? No clue. |
| 02:14.00 | elg | hehe |
| 02:14.29 | goozbach | hah! |
| 02:15.35 | goozbach | it'd be funnier if it was some time like 9:53 |
| 02:15.42 | scott | It's now proudly taped up on our wall |
| 02:15.54 | goozbach | heh |
| 02:15.56 | elg | send it back and request a revision |
| 02:21.01 | scott | interesting (yet unrealistic) bit: At AMD's current income it would take it 373 years to buy Intel. At Intel's current income it would take it .5 years to buy AMD. |
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| 02:33.17 | maquis | ~invoke levi |
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| 02:59.56 | maquis | ~seen levi |
| 03:00.01 | ibot | levi <n=levi@66.239.25.2.ptr.us.xo.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #utah, 5h 49m 13s ago, saying: 'Time for school...'. |
| 03:00.11 | maquis | ~scheme-help |
| 03:00.21 | maquis | ~scheme |
| 03:00.23 | ibot | [scheme] http://www.schemers.org |
| 03:00.29 | maquis | ~help? |
| 03:00.30 | ibot | help is probably /msg ibot help |
| 03:00.44 | maquis | ~help scheme |
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| 03:11.03 | RyanE_ | maquis: your scheming friends can't help you now... :) |
| 03:11.56 | maquis | RyanE_: i noticed |
| 03:17.46 | RyanE_ | maquis: unfortunately, the only Lisp I ever learned was when *I* had CS330. Only been 16 or so years... |
| 03:21.11 | maquis | RyanE_: :) |
| 03:21.13 | tensai | RyanE_: lucky thing levi's not here. them's fightin' words |
| 03:32.27 | RyanE_ | tensai: I don't know what I've said that's fightin' words... I didn't say Lisp Sucks (yet ;), just that I hadn't done it since then... |
| 03:34.05 | maquis | RyanE_: on plug (and #utah by extension), everythings fightin words :) |
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| 03:40.38 | maquis | levi!!!! |
| 03:40.50 | levi | maquis!!!! |
| 03:40.52 | maquis | i invoked you almost an hour ago! |
| 03:41.01 | maquis | unfortunately, it doesn't do anything yet |
| 03:41.03 | levi | I've been at school. |
| 03:41.09 | maquis | :) |
| 03:47.56 | tensai | RyanE_: technically speaking CS330 teaches scheme which != lisp. ain't that right, levi? |
| 03:48.45 | RyanE_ | tensai: I believe it's a dialect of Lisp. |
| 03:48.57 | RyanE_ | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scheme_programming_language |
| 03:49.31 | RyanE_ | of course, back when i took the class, it was Lisp, APL, C, and hmmm... I don't even remember the last one. |
| 03:50.41 | RyanE_ | and, back in *my* day, we had none of those fancy auto-indenting editors. And we wrote parens uphill both ways. |
| 03:51.23 | tensai | RyanE_: it actually doesn't make much difference to me. I can't stand scheme *or* lisp. |
| 03:51.33 | RyanE_ | now *them's* fightin' words. :) |
| 03:53.03 | tensai | that was weird. the tv just paused. and I don't have a tivo. |
| 03:54.10 | RyanE_ | most programming comes in digital, and that's what happens when the stream hiccups. |
| 03:54.20 | RyanE_ | whether it ends up in analog by the time it hits you. |
| 03:54.38 | RyanE_ | and / or a TV engineer hit the wrong button. |
| 03:55.00 | tensai | with the quality of tv here in Podunk, ID I would guess the latter |
| 03:55.10 | RyanE_ | Podunkatello? |
| 03:55.17 | RyanE_ | Podoise? |
| 03:55.29 | RyanE_ | Podunkaho Falls? |
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| 04:18.24 | tensai | RyanE_: Podunkaho Falls |
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| 04:31.05 | maquis | ~beat SpecialK |
| 04:31.06 | ibot | ACTION beats SpecialK with a large stick. |
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| 04:33.14 | SpecialK | ~zap maquis |
| 04:33.16 | ibot | ACTION takes out a cattle prod and gives maquis a good jolt. |
| 04:33.43 | maquis | ~flog SpecialK |
| 04:33.44 | ibot | ACTION hog-ties SpecialK and starts the heavy punishment with a cat-o-nine-tails. |
| 04:33.55 | SpecialK | ~shoot maquis |
| 04:33.57 | ibot | ACTION shoots maquis in the head with a phase pistol! |
| 04:34.05 | maquis | ~bzfrag SpecialK |
| 04:34.07 | ibot | ACTION makes SpecialK feel the effects of a shockwave |
| 04:34.16 | SpecialK | ~disco maquis |
| 04:34.30 | SpecialK | ~travolta maquis |
| 04:34.31 | ibot | ACTION replaces maquis with several craters in a multi-colored display of superior fire power |
| 04:34.57 | maquis | ~eat SpecialK |
| 04:34.58 | ibot | ACTION eats SpecialK and falls over dead |
| 04:35.07 | maquis | ~tree SpecialK |
| 04:35.09 | ibot | ACTION sizes up a tree and chops it down in just the right place to fall on SpecialK. |
| 04:35.16 | SpecialK | ~fish maquis |
| 04:35.18 | ibot | ACTION slaps maquis around with a large trout |
| 04:35.23 | maquis | ~bart SpecialK |
| 04:35.25 | ibot | ACTION forces SpecialK to eat her shorts |
| 04:35.37 | SpecialK | ~whale maquis |
| 04:35.46 | maquis | ~whaleslap SpecialK |
| 04:35.47 | ibot | ACTION slaps SpecialK upside and over the head with one freakishly huge killer whale named hugh |
| 04:35.47 | SpecialK | ~whaleslap maquis |
| 04:35.49 | ibot | ACTION slaps maquis upside and over the head with one freakishly huge killer whale named hugh |
| 04:36.10 | maquis | ~timeout SpecialK |
| 04:36.12 | ibot | ACTION grabs SpecialK by the ear, drags him to the timeout chair, and forces him to sit there for 20 minutes |
| 04:36.13 | SpecialK | ~kill maquis |
| 04:36.14 | ibot | ACTION shoots a excited anti-electron gun at maquis |
| 04:36.18 | Newsome | ~lart those larting larters |
| 04:36.25 | maquis | Newsome: hi |
| 04:36.29 | Newsome | hi |
| 04:36.32 | SpecialK | ~smite Newsome |
| 04:36.42 | maquis | we're just showing TimRiker that his bot is well-used around here |
| 04:37.14 | Newsome | are we concerned that TimRiker would take his bot and go home? |
| 04:37.14 | maquis | Newsome: and in all truth, we weren't using lart at all |
| 04:37.33 | maquis | Newsome: not quit |
| 04:37.34 | maquis | e |
| 04:37.49 | maquis | Newsome: i still haven't gotten that new kernel to boot yet... :) |
| 04:38.53 | TheDiff | haha, the braves lost |
| 04:39.44 | Newsome | maquis: what is in the RH supplied kernel that makes you want it over vanilla kernel? |
| 04:39.51 | elg | gah, how can I get a PDF from a postscript file that uses those latex-specific fonts that look terrible in every conversion I've ever seen? |
| 04:40.04 | elg | Newsome: ease of use. ;-) |
| 04:40.20 | maquis | Newsome: not sure... i'm not having problems due to it being a rh kernel anymore (i think) |
| 04:40.37 | maquis | now it's just... other issues |
| 04:40.45 | TheDiff | elg: do you have the original tex file |
| 04:40.56 | TimRiker | ~rlart |
| 04:41.04 | maquis | ooh! |
| 04:41.06 | maquis | that's cool@ |
| 04:41.09 | maquis | ~rlart |
| 04:41.12 | elg | nope |
| 04:41.33 | maquis | TimRiker: you rock! |
| 04:41.36 | Newsome | hmm |
| 04:41.38 | TimRiker | =) |
| 04:41.53 | TimRiker | don't recall if I fixed this one... |
| 04:42.01 | TimRiker | ~shoot $randnick |
| 04:42.02 | ibot | ACTION shoots $randnick in the foot with a glue gun! |
| 04:42.06 | TimRiker | nope. |
| 04:42.22 | maquis | (it doesn't take much to impress me... but oh well...) :) |
| 04:44.21 | TheDiff | TimRiker: i heard you were a source of information |
| 04:44.33 | TheDiff | about embedded things |
| 04:45.18 | Newsome | ~embed TheDiff |
| 04:45.26 | TheDiff | it didnt do anything |
| 04:45.29 | TheDiff | :'( |
| 04:46.58 | SpecialK | ~smite $name is <action> wields the mighty blade of Argothax and cleaves $name from crown to sole. |
| 04:47.00 | ibot | okay, SpecialK |
| 04:47.07 | SpecialK | ~smite Newsome |
| 04:47.08 | ibot | ACTION wields the mighty blade of Argothax and cleaves Newsome from crown to sole. |
| 04:47.49 | maquis | ibot: embed $foo is <action> throws $foo against the wall so hard that it becomes deeply embedded |
| 04:47.50 | ibot | okay, maquis |
| 04:47.52 | Newsome | heh |
| 04:47.58 | TheDiff | haha |
| 04:47.58 | maquis | ~embed TheDiff |
| 04:47.59 | ibot | ACTION throws TheDiff against the wall so hard that it becomes deeply embedded |
| 04:48.19 | TheDiff | make me run linux |
| 04:48.25 | TheDiff | in my mind |
| 04:48.32 | TimRiker | ~make TheDiff run Linux |
| 04:48.34 | ibot | make: *** No rule to make target `TheDiff run Linux'. Stop. |
| 04:48.34 | levi | Ew. |
| 04:48.40 | TheDiff | haha |
| 04:49.11 | maquis | ~do my homework |
| 04:49.13 | ibot | ACTION does my homework. |
| 04:49.13 | SpecialK | ~segfault TheDiff |
| 04:50.02 | TheDiff | school is hard |
| 04:50.12 | maquis | TheDiff: no kidding |
| 04:50.13 | TheDiff | its only the 2nd week |
| 04:50.26 | maquis | ~lart Newsome for not having homework |
| 04:50.57 | Newsome | too late. SpecialK cut me in half, so there's still half of me to taunt you! |
| 04:51.24 | maquis | doh! |
| 04:51.52 | maquis | ~fruit SpecialK |
| 04:51.54 | ibot | ACTION declares SpecialK to be a orange on (pcp |
| 04:52.23 | maquis | ibot: no, fruit $foo is <action> throws large quantities of rotten frute at $foo |
| 04:52.24 | ibot | okay, maquis |
| 04:52.28 | maquis | ~fruit SpecialK |
| 04:52.30 | ibot | ACTION throws large quantities of rotten frute at SpecialK |
| 04:54.43 | SpecialK | ~segfault $name is <action> executes $name and -9�▒te+#Segmentation fault. |
| 04:54.45 | ibot | SpecialK: i'm not going to learn illegal characters |
| 04:55.05 | SpecialK | ibot, but they're fun! |
| 04:55.18 | SpecialK | ibot, live a little. . . |
| 04:55.19 | maquis | kernel panic? |
| 04:55.21 | maquis | where is he? |
| 04:55.31 | maquis | he attacked my computer today, and i want to get him back |
| 04:55.39 | TheDiff | you guys are having too much fun with bots |
| 04:55.54 | SpecialK | ~segfault $name is <action> executes $name and -9teLdR/;+#Segmentation fault. |
| 04:55.55 | ibot | SpecialK: okay |
| 04:56.10 | SpecialK | ~segfault TheDiff |
| 04:56.11 | ibot | ACTION executes TheDiff and -9teLdR/;+#Segmentation fault. |
| 04:56.13 | Newsome | maquis: you tried calling the Pentagon yet? |
| 04:56.23 | maquis | Newsome: no... i'm scared to... |
| 04:56.34 | TheDiff | um what |
| 04:56.43 | TheDiff | whattt |
| 04:56.45 | TheDiff | whhhhattttt |
| 04:56.46 | maquis | TheDiff: you have to follow the conversation a bit better |
| 04:56.48 | TheDiff | yeahhh |
| 04:57.04 | TheDiff | </liljon> |
| 04:57.34 | TheDiff | following the conversation would require scrolling up |
| 04:57.41 | TheDiff | and that is hard in irssi |
| 04:58.14 | maquis | TheDiff: no it isn't |
| 04:58.18 | maquis | PgUp |
| 04:58.26 | TheDiff | crap |
| 04:58.29 | TheDiff | you know irssi |
| 04:58.34 | SpecialK | ~segfault $name is <action> \$ \.\/$name -9teLdR/;+#Segmentation fault. |
| 04:58.36 | ibot | ACTION executes $name is <action> \$ \.\/$name -9teLdR/;+#Segmentation fault. and -9teLdR/;+#Segmentation fault. |
| 04:58.36 | maquis | yup |
| 04:58.44 | TheDiff | lying doesnt pay |
| 04:58.47 | TheDiff | but still |
| 04:58.54 | TheDiff | going through all those convos, you guys talk to much |
| 04:59.09 | maquis | TheDiff: general thing is, i commented that i wanted to catch kernel panic and get him back because he attacked my computer today |
| 04:59.18 | Newsome | ibot: entropy $name is <action> randomizes $name. |
| 04:59.20 | ibot | Newsome: okay |
| 04:59.44 | maquis | TheDiff: i can't believe that's off your screen... it's still on my screen, so i wouldn't even have to pgup |
| 05:00.14 | TheDiff | i was saying what about calling the pentagon |
| 05:00.21 | TheDiff | i dont know what that has to do with kernel panic |
| 05:01.32 | Newsome | well, the Pentagon is the headquarters of the Department of Defense |
| 05:01.45 | SpecialK | Well obviously kernel panic or his superiors work in the pentagon, so that would be the place to go after him. |
| 05:02.00 | maquis | :) |
| 05:02.00 | TheDiff | i obviously dont know who kernel panic is |
| 05:02.00 | Newsome | and kernel and colonel are homonyms |
| 05:02.04 | TheDiff | oh |
| 05:02.08 | TheDiff | i hate you |
| 05:02.17 | maquis | TheDiff: haha |
| 05:02.21 | SpecialK | ~hug TheDiff |
| 05:02.25 | ibot | ACTION hugs TheDiff |
| 05:02.25 | Newsome | that's okay. so does SCO. |
| 05:02.36 | TheDiff | good, SCO is not our friend |
| 05:02.49 | TheDiff | don't you guys feel dirty being in the same state as them |
| 05:03.22 | maquis | TheDiff: unlike some people who sometimes come to this channel, i've never met darl... |
| 05:03.27 | maquis | so, it's not too bad |
| 05:03.32 | SpecialK | I'm physically closer to Novell than SCO . |
| 05:03.40 | maquis | Newsome: do you know where that interview ran off to? |
| 05:04.03 | Newsome | maquis: the one at the protest with Darl? |
| 05:04.08 | maquis | yeah |
| 05:04.13 | SpecialK | And Plug meets across the street from SCO. |
| 05:04.17 | maquis | TheDiff might enjoy that |
| 05:04.45 | Newsome | hmmm... |
| 05:04.56 | TheDiff | microsoft built a 20 story building like a quarter mile from my house |
| 05:04.58 | TheDiff | :'( |
| 05:05.05 | maquis | TheDiff: you from wa? |
| 05:05.09 | TheDiff | no |
| 05:05.13 | TheDiff | St. Louis |
| 05:05.27 | TheDiff | well, suburbs of St. Louis |
| 05:05.31 | TheDiff | which makes it even more random |
| 05:05.36 | Newsome | I've got an ogg of the Darl 'interview' at http://sco.tuxrocks.com/Docs/mcbride.ogg |
| 05:05.42 | maquis | really? |
| 05:05.44 | maquis | that rocks! |
| 05:05.51 | SpecialK | complain as I might, I'll still stick to m$ and eat all the pizza they bring tomorrow. |
| 05:05.52 | maquis | i had only seen it written |
| 05:05.59 | maquis | SpecialK: traitor |
| 05:06.07 | TheDiff | yeah |
| 05:06.08 | TheDiff | dirty |
| 05:07.45 | maquis | my high school was mentioned in bbc news with a pic of bill gates today.... |
| 05:07.50 | SpecialK | that was supposed to say stick it to m$ |
| 05:07.50 | maquis | that's kinda scary |
| 05:07.57 | TheDiff | Newsome: did you die |
| 05:08.05 | TheDiff | East Saint Louis isn't really st. louis |
| 05:08.13 | TheDiff | its a suburb of "ghetto" |
| 05:08.14 | Newsome | TheDiff: No, but our team lost. |
| 05:08.22 | Newsome | I heard a gunshot before the game started |
| 05:08.30 | TheDiff | i wouldnt be surprised |
| 05:08.55 | TheDiff | highschool or college football |
| 05:09.16 | Newsome | maquis: and here is the transcript - http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20031010223050711 |
| 05:09.22 | Newsome | TheDiff: high school |
| 05:09.40 | maquis | Newsome: cool! |
| 05:09.52 | Newsome | we played them in the quarterfinals. They ended up taking state |
| 05:10.53 | TheDiff | Newsome: are you from illinois or something |
| 05:10.55 | Newsome | musta been '89 or so |
| 05:11.02 | Newsome | TheDiff: yeah, Chicago suburbs |
| 05:11.12 | TheDiff | my dad currently lives in chicago |
| 05:11.19 | TheDiff | downtown, previously downers grove |
| 05:11.22 | maquis | Newsome: my parents lived in chicago a long time ago... |
| 05:11.24 | TheDiff | chicago is big and scary |
| 05:11.27 | maquis | my dad was at northwestern |
| 05:12.23 | Newsome | I "grew up" in Naperville |
| 05:13.04 | TheDiff | smallll world |
| 05:17.22 | maquis | SpecialK: good point... wouldn't want Newsome to have control over his machine |
| 05:20.28 | Newsome | yeah, wouldn't want that :) |
| 05:20.41 | maquis | ~root Newsome |
| 05:20.54 | Newsome | doh |
| 05:22.22 | SpecialK | ~root $name is <action> uses a keylogger to pwnz all $name 's boxen. |
| 05:22.24 | ibot | SpecialK: okay |
| 05:22.27 | TheDiff | have any of you ever experienced IRQ conflicts in linux |
| 05:22.34 | SpecialK | ~root Newsome |
| 05:22.35 | ibot | ACTION uses a keylogger to pwnz all Newsome 's boxen. |
| 05:23.07 | maquis | 0wnz3r |
| 05:23.51 | TheDiff | 1337 speak means you have been possessed by the devil |
| 05:25.25 | maquis | 1337-5p33|< r0x0rZZZ |
| 05:26.28 | TheDiff | i still am |
| 05:26.42 | maquis | ~mock TheDiff |
| 05:26.44 | ibot | ACTION pulls TheDiff's pants down and shows the world TheDiff's pink spotted underwear |
| 05:27.11 | TheDiff | i know you think its hot |
| 05:28.34 | Newsome | well, if I am to continue my reign of terror, I must sleep. night, all. |
| 05:28.40 | maquis | Newsome: gnight |
| 05:29.34 | TheDiff | Unlike ISA and EISA cards, PCI cards do not select their own IRQ line. Instead they can only select one of four "interrupt pins", which are mapped by the motherboard chipset to IRQ lines. I'll stress this again -- only the motherboard BIOS knows how the INT to IRQ mapping is wired, and thus only the BIOS can change the IRQ mapping for the card. The IRQ mapping is usually configured at boot time by the PCI BIOS setup, with the the exact assignment algorithm bei |
| 05:29.39 | TheDiff | crap |
| 05:29.41 | TheDiff | ignore that |
| 05:29.43 | TheDiff | wrong channel |
| 05:29.48 | maquis | hehe |
| 05:30.10 | TheDiff | this dude is trying to get his atheros card to work in Ubunut |
| 05:30.13 | TheDiff | Ubuntu |
| 05:30.18 | TheDiff | and its having some IRQ conflict |
| 05:30.21 | TheDiff | which is whack |
| 05:34.35 | SpecialK | TheDiff, so what brings you to our humble channel? |
| 05:34.48 | TheDiff | um, looking for a place to work in utah |
| 05:34.59 | TheDiff | which i have been completely unsuccessful at |
| 05:35.04 | xbmodder | TheDiff, looking for a place to work in cali if my thing! |
| 05:35.10 | TheDiff | haha |
| 05:35.16 | TheDiff | there are plenty of places in cali |
| 05:35.20 | TheDiff | silicon valleyyyyy |
| 05:35.31 | TheDiff | my dad used to live in Spanish Fork |
| 05:35.41 | TheDiff | so he is still on the mailing list for the provo lug |
| 05:35.47 | SpecialK | not a lot of places to work in UT. Or more precisely much higher demand than supply. |
| 05:36.39 | TheDiff | yeah |
| 05:36.41 | TheDiff | so i've found out |
| 05:37.02 | SpecialK | If you were a BYU student, I could hook you up. |
| 05:37.14 | TheDiff | haha, i can fake it |
| 05:37.32 | SpecialK | But the money wouldn't be worth it. |
| 05:37.34 | TheDiff | i might just try to get a summer research position at BYU or University of Utah |
| 05:37.42 | TheDiff | i'm not looking for a permanent job |
| 05:37.47 | xbmodder | me neither |
| 05:37.48 | TheDiff | just an intern/co-op thing |
| 05:37.50 | xbmodder | :) |
| 05:37.51 | xbmodder | lol |
| 05:38.02 | TheDiff | xbmodder: dont even think about working yet |
| 05:38.06 | TheDiff | enjoy it while you still can |
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| 05:47.15 | xbmodder | lol |
| 05:47.34 | xbmodder | I need to buy a domain |
| 05:47.43 | xbmodder | I was going to buy ILoveAlex.com |
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| 05:47.51 | xbmodder | but the guy wants too much money |
| 05:47.55 | TheDiff | hahaha |
| 05:47.59 | xbmodder | do you guys have any ideas? |
| 05:48.06 | TheDiff | yeah |
| 05:48.11 | TheDiff | theinternetsucks.com |
| 05:48.20 | xbmodder | something to do with love like cool sexy and a girl named alex... |
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| 05:48.47 | TheDiff | oh, its taken |
| 05:48.51 | xbmodder | lol |
| 05:48.54 | TheDiff | um what |
| 05:49.06 | TheDiff | you are going to buy an internet address based on a girl |
| 05:49.15 | xbmodder | yeah |
| 05:49.18 | TheDiff | dont do taht |
| 05:49.19 | xbmodder | is that odd... |
| 05:49.29 | xbmodder | why not? |
| 05:49.32 | xbmodder | its to raise money |
| 05:49.33 | TheDiff | its not odd, its normal |
| 05:49.34 | TheDiff | but bad |
| 05:49.37 | TheDiff | haha |
| 05:49.39 | xbmodder | to get her to come to Cali |
| 05:49.43 | TheDiff | hahahahaha |
| 05:49.44 | TheDiff | yea |
| 05:49.46 | TheDiff | dont do that |
| 05:49.50 | xbmodder | that sounded REALLY bad |
| 05:49.57 | xbmodder | I didn't mean it like dat! |
| 05:50.02 | TheDiff | i know |
| 05:50.03 | TheDiff | but still |
| 05:50.16 | TheDiff | don't get caught up in love on the intarwebs |
| 05:50.28 | xbmodder | i know her... |
| 05:50.29 | TheDiff | years later you'll look back |
| 05:50.30 | TheDiff | and be like |
| 05:50.31 | xbmodder | in real life |
| 05:50.39 | TheDiff | that doesnt matte |
| 05:50.47 | xbmodder | but stupid sun made her dad be all stupid and move |
| 05:51.19 | TheDiff | any relationships that occur under the age of 18 don't count |
| 05:51.22 | TheDiff | haha |
| 05:52.46 | xbmodder | grr |
| 05:53.06 | TheDiff | i'm speaking from experience |
| 05:53.11 | TheDiff | i think back |
| 05:53.12 | xbmodder | yeah... |
| 05:53.13 | xbmodder | true |
| 05:53.17 | TheDiff | and am like |
| 05:53.20 | xbmodder | I just wanna see her really |
| 05:53.22 | xbmodder | badly |
| 05:53.32 | xbmodder | cuz she talked me out of alotta stuff. |
| 05:53.40 | TheDiff | wow, i wasted alot of time and emotions on stuff that didnt matter at all |
| 05:54.02 | TheDiff | yeah, but hindsight is always 20/20 |
| 05:54.16 | TheDiff | things always seem way more significant when you are in the moment |
| 05:54.19 | TheDiff | anyways i gotta go |
| 05:54.21 | xbmodder | i woulda prolly been arrested for doing stupid things |
| 05:54.26 | xbmodder | if not for her... |
| 05:54.27 | xbmodder | :) |
| 05:54.30 | TheDiff | good luck with the girly |
| 05:54.35 | xbmodder | kool! |
| 05:54.37 | xbmodder | c ya |
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| 06:37.37 | xbmodder | http://xbmodder.us/index.php?module=phatform&PHAT_MAN_OP=View&PHAT_FORM_ID=3&MMN_position=5:5 |
| 06:38.35 | maquis | anyone here know DOS reasonably well? |
| 06:38.53 | maquis | (or winXP rescue for the computer illiterate?) |
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| 06:52.31 | xbmodder | maquis, what od you need to do? |
| 06:52.35 | xbmodder | maquis, what do you need to do? |
| 06:53.50 | maquis | xbmodder: a group of girls who are on study abroad in china have a computer that won't boot, but they can get to a DOS command-line |
| 06:54.10 | maquis | one of the girls does run linux, but doesn't really know how to do very much with it... |
| 06:54.27 | xbmodder | they need to get the data off right? |
| 06:54.34 | maquis | yes |
| 06:54.44 | maquis | they want data off, then they'll reformat |
| 06:58.28 | xbmodder | NTFS? |
| 06:58.29 | xbmodder | or FAT? |
| 06:58.33 | maquis | dunno |
| 06:58.39 | maquis | i've never seen the machine |
| 06:58.47 | maquis | it's winXP so i'm assuming NTFS |
| 06:58.48 | xbmodder | can they get knoppix running? |
| 06:59.02 | xbmodder | can they get knoppix? |
| 06:59.08 | maquis | i'm thinking about trying that if copy doesn't work |
| 06:59.24 | maquis | i don't know if knoppix can get through the great chinese firewall |
| 06:59.38 | xbmodder | maquis, Can SSL get through? |
| 07:00.03 | maquis | if it can, then i'll have to deal with teaching them how to record a cd, and how to get into it and such |
| 07:00.04 | xbmodder | I'll mirror it |
| 07:00.16 | xbmodder | knoppix 3 |
| 07:00.16 | maquis | xbmodder: the problem isn't a matter of ports getting through |
| 07:00.27 | maquis | a lot of areas of china actually have anything that doesn't end in .cn blocked |
| 07:00.32 | xbmodder | maquis, they won't filter my domain. |
| 07:00.39 | xbmodder | i think.. |
| 07:00.41 | maquis | xbmodder: are you a .cn address? |
| 07:00.50 | maquis | is your server located in china? |
| 07:00.50 | xbmodder | can they SSH out? |
| 07:00.57 | maquis | i don't know |
| 07:02.07 | maquis | if they end up going for a knoppix cd, i'm thinking i'll probably try to get them to scp files to some server someplace here... if they can't get there, then i'll have to try to explain to gloria how to get her computer to be a ssh server (since it's the only one i know of over there running linux) and then have them scp that way |
| 07:02.20 | maquis | i'm not sure i can explain that, though |
| 07:02.41 | maquis | i'm going to have them try to copy to floppies and take the floppies to another computer first |
| 07:03.01 | maquis | it's not the *easiest* way to do it, but it is the easiest way to explain.... |
| 07:03.55 | xbmodder | heh |
| 07:03.55 | xbmodder | ouch |
| 07:04.01 | maquis | yes |
| 07:06.18 | levi | G'night. |
| 07:07.31 | maquis | my friend mentioned to me that in china, they have tons of shirts, etc that have tux on them everywhere |
| 07:07.59 | maquis | i'm leaving her a little hint as to something fun to bring back to me :) |
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| 15:20.11 | scott | gmail is unavailable so often I'd hate to see what it's like when it's no longer beta |
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| 15:24.01 | Bradipo | scott: What do you mean? |
| 15:24.08 | Bradipo | I don't think I've ever had probelsm accessing gmail. |
| 15:24.38 | scott | it happens all the time for me |
| 15:24.48 | scott | well, quite a few times a week |
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| 15:27.28 | Bradipo | Are you sure it isn't something on your end? What have you done to diagnose it? |
| 15:27.39 | Bradipo | I haven't ever had problems accessing gmail from multiple networks. |
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| 15:47.04 | scott | Bradipo: considering it's gmail giving me the error, i don't think it's my end |
| 15:47.16 | scott | you've never seen the "cross your fingers and try again" message? |
| 15:47.27 | Bradipo | I haven't. |
| 15:47.47 | scott | btw, http://origenxbox360.com/ is kind of interesting. A tree, visions, glowing fruit, and a path. remind you of anything? |
| 15:47.48 | Bradipo | I wonder if it is some kind of load balancing thing (like Akamai). |
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| 15:50.10 | elg | ok, wierd problem. |
| 15:50.28 | elg | i set up a vpn for a client, and in the process had to change some settings on the linksys (port forwarding) router |
| 15:51.27 | elg | but the linksys was doing crazy stuff and wouldn't let me until I upgraded the firmware |
| 15:51.35 | elg | now some XP boxes aren't doing dhcp with it |
| 15:51.37 | elg | but others work fine |
| 16:00.02 | tensai | see if you can defeat the "clever" security mechanism used to keep all the price quotes "confidential" |
| 16:00.04 | tensai | http://www.ptctel.com/Buying45.htm |
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| 16:18.28 | levi | http://icfpc.plt-scheme.org/index.html |
| 16:18.35 | levi | ICFP results |
| 16:25.47 | scott | dylan hackers got judges prize last year also didn |
| 16:25.52 | scott | 't they? |
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| 16:29.37 | levi | I'm not sure if it was last year, but they did get it before. |
| 16:43.41 | levi | Is this guy totally not with it, or do lots of people really still try to administer Linux boxes with Windows Telnet? http://blogs.zdnet.com/Murphy/index.php?p=429 |
| 16:44.06 | Bradipo | Yes. |
| 16:44.28 | Bradipo | Most people that use Linux have had some experience at one time with Unix and all they probably remember is telnet. |
| 16:44.34 | maquis | ~lart gmail |
| 16:44.51 | Bradipo | Sorry, not most. |
| 16:45.02 | Bradipo | Most people like column writers. |
| 16:45.16 | bonez39 | is it possible for something like apache to work just fine and then have something quietly install that just wipes it out? |
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| 16:45.39 | levi | Bradipo: So, that's a 'yes' to being totally not with it, or yes to lots of people still administering Linux with Windows Telnet? |
| 16:45.47 | Bradipo | Yes to both. |
| 16:45.55 | Bradipo | Clearly using Windows telnet is not with it. |
| 16:46.41 | Bradipo | I'm not sure what his point about killing Linux with Windows telnet is though. |
| 16:47.18 | Bradipo | Or is he saying that people are dumb for using Windows telnet to admin Unix? |
| 16:47.55 | levi | Well, he seems to be suggesting that lots of people are actually attempting to administer their Linux boxes with Windows Telnet rather than something like putty. |
| 16:47.55 | Bradipo | Ahh, indeed he is. |
| 16:48.12 | Bradipo | Right, but he is also suggesting that using Windows telnet turns people off from Unix. |
| 16:49.09 | levi | Yes, but people who don't see the real problem there are probably not cut out for unix administration anyway. |
| 16:49.21 | Bradipo | I agree there. |
| 16:50.23 | levi | I think that, if he is not an idiot, then he was really stretching for something to write about, and then stretching again to try to make it sound interesting and relevant. |
| 16:51.18 | Bradipo | It looks like he was frustrated that he tried to convince others to stop using Telnet to administer Linux. :-) |
| 16:51.26 | Bradipo | And they didn't bother to listen. |
| 16:51.55 | Bradipo | ``I've tried, for example by introducing Larry to webmin and even demoing it in his boardroom -but I think his team's commitment lasted about until I left the room, then they went right back to using the Linux killer application: Windows telnet.'' |
| 16:53.03 | maquis | wow... |
| 16:53.17 | maquis | i seem to have found the magic sopot |
| 16:54.41 | tensai | I think he exposes his stupidity by saying that the right way to admin a *nix box is with a Sun terminal using remote X |
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| 16:55.14 | levi | Bradipo: Why he chose webmin instead of something like putty as a replacement for telnet is beyond me. |
| 16:56.07 | Bradipo | Yeah, poor choice. I think he missed his own point in that. I don't think he was arguing against telnet the program, but rather, the use of telnet interfaces for administration of Unix. |
| 16:57.06 | Bradipo | Which is rediculous anyway. |
| 16:57.20 | tensai | the message I read was "down with CLI because this specific Windows implementation sucks" |
| 16:58.00 | Bradipo | The message I read was ``down with Unix because Windows telnet sucks.'' :-) |
| 16:58.16 | levi | Bradipo: I thought it was a rant against Windows Telnet in particular, having had great pain from using it in the past. But perhaps he really did mean CLI in general. |
| 16:59.19 | Bradipo | Well, he started off complaining that Windows telnet would be the killer app that kills Unix because clearly, pepole using telnet to administer Unix cannot be happy doing so. |
| 17:01.25 | Bradipo | And finished recommending Webmin as a replacement... |
| 17:01.40 | levi | Regardless of what he really meant, it doesn't seem to be worthy of too much deeper reading. |
| 17:01.45 | Bradipo | Nope. |
| 17:21.33 | Bradipo | I don't know python at all, but I find myself editing a python script... anyone know what the name of the regsub method is in python? |
| 17:22.35 | Bradipo | I have an assignment: hdrval = message_body |
| 17:23.12 | Bradipo | Want to change it to hdrval = message_body.regsub('^.$','..'); |
| 17:23.12 | levi | The regular expression stuff is in the re package. |
| 17:23.22 | byronc | Bradipo: re.sub should do it |
| 17:24.05 | Bradipo | so, message_body.re.sub(blah)? |
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| 17:24.34 | Bradipo | lol, I'm a total python newbie. |
| 17:24.43 | levi | Bradipo: There are extensive python library docs available on python.org |
| 17:24.49 | Bradipo | Yeah, I'm looking at them. |
| 17:25.18 | levi | Bradipo: Go to the index, click on the 're' package/module/whatever and there you go. |
| 17:25.32 | Bradipo | http://docs.python.org/lib/module-re.html |
| 17:25.36 | Bradipo | I've been looking at that. |
| 17:27.12 | Bradipo | Part of the problem is that I am not familiar with the syntax of python. |
| 17:27.21 | levi | See the 'module contents' page, the example for sub() |
| 17:27.24 | Bradipo | What I wanted was in ``Module Contents'' |
| 17:27.37 | Bradipo | So re is a module that has certain methods... |
| 17:27.38 | Bradipo | Cool. |
| 17:28.42 | levi | You can selectively import symbols from modules, so you don't have to prepend re. to references to them. |
| 17:31.07 | Bradipo | Hmm, do I need to import something to use it? |
| 17:31.22 | Bradipo | I just tried it from the command line and got an error. |
| 17:31.30 | Bradipo | like ``import re'' maybe? |
| 17:31.52 | levi | Yup. |
| 17:33.55 | Bradipo | Here is what I have: newtest = re.sub('^\.$','..',test) |
| 17:34.04 | Bradipo | But newtest is the same as test... |
| 17:34.35 | Bradipo | So clearly '^\.$' isn't matching... |
| 17:37.58 | levi | re.sub('^\.$','..','.') works for me. |
| 17:38.51 | Bradipo | Ok, now what about: test = "This is a test\n.\n" |
| 17:38.58 | Bradipo | And run the regsub against test instead... |
| 17:39.25 | byronc | Bradipo: here's a tested one: |
| 17:39.29 | byronc | import re |
| 17:39.54 | byronc | pattern = re.compile(r"^\.$", re.MULTILINE) |
| 17:40.10 | byronc | outstring = re.subn("..", test)[0] |
| 17:40.56 | Bradipo | Ahh, multine... |
| 17:41.01 | levi | Yeah, MULTILINE is the key, otherwise ^ and $ refer to beginning and end of string rather than line. |
| 17:41.03 | Bradipo | Does re.sub only affect one line? |
| 17:41.14 | byronc | re.sub only affects the first match |
| 17:41.24 | Bradipo | Well, the first match should be on the second line... |
| 17:41.38 | Bradipo | But you mean first match on the first line? |
| 17:41.45 | Bradipo | I'll try MULTILINE. |
| 17:42.15 | Bradipo | Ok, so will this only regsub the first match? |
| 17:42.49 | byronc | Bradipo: the example I gave will regsub all the matches. |
| 17:42.53 | Bradipo | Ahh, ok. |
| 17:43.03 | Bradipo | What is the r for before the pattern? |
| 17:43.08 | byronc | Bradipo: levi is right that the ^ and $ refer to beginning and end of string without multiline |
| 17:43.34 | Bradipo | byronc: I believed him. :-) |
| 17:43.37 | byronc | Bradipo: the r is for raw string, same as using '' in perl |
| 17:44.13 | byronc | not required in this case |
| 17:44.46 | Bradipo | byronc: Why use subn instead of sub? |
| 17:45.03 | byronc | so it will replace more that just the first match |
| 17:45.31 | Bradipo | But according to the docs, subn performs the same as sub except it returns more information. |
| 17:45.40 | Bradipo | The new string and the number of subs made. |
| 17:46.33 | byronc | Bradipo: you're right, I misread that |
| 17:47.52 | Bradipo | Ok, that worked. Does sub automatically look for a variable called pattern, or must I do it as I did: newtest = re.sub(pattern,"..",test) |
| 17:51.43 | Bradipo | I just love python's syntax: IndentationError: unindent does not match any outer indentation level |
| 17:51.44 | Bradipo | :-) |
| 17:53.16 | byronc | Bradipo: sorry, my re.subn line should have been: outstring = pattern.subn("..", test)[0] |
| 17:54.27 | Bradipo | Ahh, interesting. |
| 17:54.36 | Bradipo | What I did appears to have worked though... |
| 17:55.06 | Bradipo | Is what I did wrong in python? |
| 17:55.23 | byronc | Your line does the same thing |
| 17:55.27 | Bradipo | Ok. |
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| 18:10.12 | Uncle_Jesse | hola |
| 18:10.32 | Uncle_Jesse | watch out guys - I'm moving back to Utah |
| 18:19.27 | Jayce^ | oh crap.... |
| 18:19.30 | Jayce^ | :) |
| 18:19.34 | Jayce^ | details |
| 18:25.02 | tensai | maybe once he moves back he can be a little more responsive |
| 18:32.13 | jsmith | Uncle_Jesse: You're kidding, right? |
| 18:32.30 | jsmith | Uncle_Jesse: And give up all that nice country to live in the desert? |
| 18:48.20 | jsmith | maquis: Which forum? |
| 18:48.33 | maquis | jsmith: the byu forum |
| 18:48.44 | maquis | david mccullough (guy who wrote john adams and 1776) |
| 18:48.47 | jsmith | maquis: Details? Not all of use go/went to BYU |
| 18:48.49 | maquis | really cool |
| 18:48.55 | jsmith | Aha... Dang, I'll bet it was. |
| 18:49.34 | jsmith | maquis: Go buy a copy of "Spirit of '76" |
| 18:49.50 | maquis | jsmith: his book? or is that a different one? |
| 18:49.57 | jsmith | maquis: Different one. |
| 18:50.20 | jsmith | maquis: It's a book full of letters and newspaper accounts of the Revolutionary war, as told by the people who were actually there. |
| 18:52.06 | maquis | wow |
| 18:52.11 | maquis | that sounds really cool! |
| 18:54.17 | jsmith | Yeah, it is. It's slow reading, and it's a huge book, but Barnes and Noble usually has it on sale for around $12. |
| 18:54.27 | maquis | cool |
| 18:57.36 | Jayce^ | jsmith, it is a good book, I've only had the chance to read a little bit of it, but I really liked it.. |
| 18:57.41 | Jayce^ | $12 would be worthwhile for that thing |
| 18:57.51 | jsmith | My thoughts exactly... |
| 19:04.06 | Uncle_Jesse | sorry - got called away |
| 19:04.19 | Uncle_Jesse | I'll be working in Park City for BackCountry.com |
| 19:04.47 | Uncle_Jesse | Nothing like working for a outdoor gear company in Park City |
| 19:05.00 | Uncle_Jesse | The president of the company is an Olympic ski jumper |
| 19:05.08 | Jayce^ | figured that's who it was |
| 19:05.12 | Uncle_Jesse | :-) |
| 19:05.16 | Jayce^ | you going to live in park city? |
| 19:05.25 | Uncle_Jesse | If we can afford it |
| 19:05.33 | Jayce^ | so that would be a No :) |
| 19:05.33 | Uncle_Jesse | It all depends on how much we sell our house for here |
| 19:05.38 | Uncle_Jesse | it's a maybe |
| 19:05.56 | Uncle_Jesse | Heber or Cottonwood area will be more likely |
| 19:06.03 | Uncle_Jesse | but I'm still going to look in Park City |
| 19:06.19 | Jayce^ | heber == cheap; Cottonwood && park city == Not Cheap |
| 19:06.31 | Uncle_Jesse | Part of the reason we're moving back is because of all the equity we've made on our home here that we'll cash in on |
| 19:07.31 | Uncle_Jesse | I can finally run Linux at work again though |
| 19:07.44 | Uncle_Jesse | and go Mountain Biking and skiing on lunch breaks :-) |
| 19:09.56 | graphyx | Jayce^: Shouldn't that be park city != cheap? |
| 19:11.07 | Uncle_Jesse | ne cheap |
| 19:11.14 | Uncle_Jesse | ne "cheap" |
| 19:11.26 | Jayce^ | sure :) it's pseudo |
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| 19:11.50 | Uncle_Jesse | Jayce^: thanks for the post to PLUG btw |
| 19:12.04 | jsmith | maquis: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0785814639/qid=1127848285/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/102-2346893-8583317?v=glance&s=books |
| 19:12.12 | Uncle_Jesse | I had done work with them in the past when I worked for CWD so was somewhat familiar with them |
| 19:15.12 | Jayce^ | Ijust forward job opps... |
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| 19:18.39 | levi | Park City is getting ridiculously expensive. |
| 19:18.51 | Bradipo | jsmith: Find the ISBN? |
| 19:19.03 | jsmith | Bradipo: Yes. 0785814639 |
| 19:19.10 | Bradipo | Cool, thanks. |
| 19:19.16 | Bradipo | Just saw your link too. |
| 19:19.18 | jsmith | Bradipo: Check out 0596009623 while you're at it... |
| 19:19.32 | Bradipo | :-) |
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| 19:24.27 | maquis | hmmm |
| 19:24.29 | maquis | that's odd |
| 19:24.54 | maquis | in my address-bar in firefox, th z in amazon.com is smaller than all the other letters |
| 19:24.58 | Bradipo | I guess a tab and a space are not equivalent indentation for python eh? |
| 19:25.17 | Bradipo | maquis: Hmm, hopefully it isn't some kind of UniCode exploit... |
| 19:25.41 | maquis | Bradipo: probably not... |
| 19:25.48 | maquis | it's probably just my computer being stupid |
| 19:25.49 | Bradipo | Although I suppose it could be a font problem. |
| 19:25.56 | maquis | since it happens when i type it in by hand and such |
| 19:26.27 | Bradipo | Well, I have seen some interesting spoof sites that use UniCode (punycode in DNS) characters to emulate the actual site. |
| 19:26.42 | levi | Bradipo: Nope, tab and space are not equivalent to Python. |
| 19:26.47 | maquis | Bradipo: generally those don't work if you type it in yourself, though |
| 19:26.47 | Bradipo | Yeah, if you type it in by hand then it must be goofed up. |
| 19:26.55 | maquis | :) |
| 19:26.59 | maquis | it's my computer/// |
| 19:27.03 | maquis | therefore, it has issues |
| 19:27.53 | Bradipo | levi: How do I print to stderr in python? Is it as simple as ``print stderr "some text"'' ? |
| 19:28.12 | levi | Bradipo: Sorry, I don't know that one. |
| 19:28.16 | Bradipo | Ok. |
| 19:31.44 | scott | how do you do natural log in bc/dc? |
| 19:31.45 | jsmith | Bradipo: I don't remember, but it's in chapter 9 of my book... hold on :-) |
| 19:32.31 | byronc | Bradipo: import sys |
| 19:32.39 | byronc | Bradipo: sys.stderr.write("foo") |
| 19:32.50 | jsmith | Sounds right... |
| 19:39.39 | tensai | scott: l(x) in bc |
| 19:47.10 | elg | what kind of insanity... there's a bill trying to cut subsidized student loans for graduate students to pay for hurricane relief |
| 19:51.53 | levi | Heh. |
| 19:52.07 | levi | 'Cause who needs higher education? We've got wars to run! |
| 19:52.37 | levi | Or, if you wish, s/wars/random expensive government program/ |
| 19:54.24 | Bradipo | byronc: Thanks. |
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| 19:56.15 | elg | soon there will be nobody smart enough not to live below sea level |
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| 20:08.20 | Tene | saw this in my mailbox this morning: |
| 20:08.28 | Tene | http://allalone.org/pics/cpan_pizza.png |
| 20:09.11 | maquis | mmmmmm |
| 20:09.53 | Tene | I think I've been using perl too much. |
| 20:10.15 | maquis | :) |
| 20:11.03 | jsmith | Tene: Must be -- I'd never have looked at that and thought CPAN, but now that you point it out... |
| 20:47.43 | amcnabb | That picture made me hungry. |
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| 20:52.09 | Uncle_Jesse | Perl makes me hungry |
| 20:53.15 | Uncle_Jesse | Perl makes Pizza |
| 20:53.42 | mheath | Hmmm |
| 20:53.49 | mheath | Anyone here go to USU, or have any comments on it? |
| 20:56.38 | tensai | it's cold in the winter |
| 20:57.10 | jsmith | mheath: I went. |
| 20:57.22 | jsmith | mheath: I spent a good portion of my life there. |
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| 20:57.37 | jsmith | mheath: Feel free to ask me questions in a private msg, so I don't get flamed to death :-) |
| 20:58.35 | graphyx | Yeah but they probably had refs that weren't blind. |
| 20:58.37 | mheath | jsmith: meh, no ones talking here, I doubt anyone would mind if we talked here |
| 20:58.51 | jsmith | OK... here goes. |
| 20:58.52 | mheath | I'm still planning on joining the Navy, but I have a friend who wants to enlist with me....and he's a junior. |
| 20:59.09 | mheath | So I have to wait around for another year, while he finishes up highschool |
| 20:59.11 | starman | I am spidering google, and I want to use proper etiquette - to put the correct headers in to tell them who I am and what I'm doing.. |
| 20:59.11 | starman | anybody have a resource they can direct me to, where I can learn the best headers to put in my http request? |
| 20:59.16 | jsmith | If you can stand the small-town attitudes of Logan (which I actually enjoyed), it's great. |
| 20:59.40 | jsmith | mheath: Some departments were better than others -- what do you plan on studying? |
| 20:59.58 | mheath | So figured that I'd attend a year of college while I'm waiting, before I join the navy |
| 21:00.08 | mheath | jsmith: Business Management, with an emphasis on Computer Science. |
| 21:00.10 | mheath | er |
| 21:00.13 | mheath | *Business Administration |
| 21:00.13 | graphyx | starman: google wants you to get a personal search key that is limited to 1000 searches per day is you plan on doing a lot of queries, or pay them for more than that. |
| 21:00.48 | jsmith | mheath: The Business program is decent, not great, but decent. The CS program isn't nearly as nice as the U's (probably about on par with BYU -- I only ever took 1 BYU cs class) |
| 21:01.33 | mheath | jsmith: I'm looking to get into electronic engineering, too. |
| 21:01.45 | tensai | it'd be fun to sit in on CS classes from different colleges and compare them |
| 21:01.47 | jsmith | mheath: Then you definitely want to go to USU. The EE program is fantastic. |
| 21:01.48 | mheath | At least take a couple classes on it, eventually. |
| 21:01.51 | jsmith | tensai: I have. |
| 21:02.05 | jsmith | tensai: USU, UofU, and BYU so far... |
| 21:02.29 | mheath | jsmith: we had a "college day" at school....recruiters from all the utah colleges came and talked to us |
| 21:02.42 | mheath | (we got to choose 3 colleges to sit in on the presentations for) |
| 21:03.03 | mheath | USU seemed a bit.....funner. Not a party school (Its Utah :P), but....funner |
| 21:03.10 | mheath | At least the presentation+presenter was :P |
| 21:03.11 | jsmith | It is. |
| 21:03.40 | jsmith | I honestly enjoyed all 4^h 5^h... uh, well, let's just say all those long years there. |
| 21:04.15 | mheath | Rather weird discussion involving getting kissed at midnight on the full moon O.o |
| 21:04.34 | mheath | jsmith: is Aggie Ice Cream really that good, by the way? |
| 21:04.36 | mheath | Never tried it |
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| 21:04.45 | jsmith | mheath: Absolutely! |
| 21:05.15 | mheath | This will be kinda expensive, living away from home |
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| 21:05.26 | mheath | $7,872/yr |
| 21:05.39 | mheath | (Tuition+Room/Board+Books&Supplies) |
| 21:06.10 | tensai | try having kids and a mortgage. I'm looking at that and thinking it sounds pretty good. |
| 21:06.19 | jsmith | No kidding. |
| 21:06.21 | mheath | Meh |
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| 21:06.31 | mheath | I have a college savings fund my dads been adding money to since I was born... |
| 21:06.31 | jsmith | I was working two jobs the whole time I was at USU |
| 21:06.36 | mheath | but it only has about $4,000 in it |
| 21:06.56 | mheath | So, good job + student loan... |
| 21:07.00 | jsmith | mheath: Lucky you -- my dad said "You wanna go to college -- go get a job." |
| 21:07.10 | elg | don't forget scholarships |
| 21:07.17 | jsmith | And since I hate being in debt, I just worked my tail off. |
| 21:07.24 | jsmith | elg: Yeah, until you lose them :-) |
| 21:07.41 | elg | even if your high school grades weren't all that great, if you get off to a good start in college you can get some at least half-tuition sorts of scholarships and they help out a lot |
| 21:07.44 | mheath | elg: meh, I don't know if I'll be able to get many/any |
| 21:07.46 | elg | make it so you only need one job. :) |
| 21:08.15 | elg | and never underestimate filling out the fafsa. never know when you might be eligible for a pell grant or something |
| 21:08.37 | mheath | elg: fafsa is a waste of time for me. I'm not eligible for any grants or financial aid. >.> |
| 21:08.38 | levi | If you get one job that does tuition reimbursement, you're golden. |
| 21:08.55 | elg | if you don't fill it out, you're right, you won't be eligible |
| 21:09.00 | mheath | My brother discovered that when he tried to apply for financial aid |
| 21:09.02 | levi | As long as you're good at being frugal. |
| 21:09.15 | mheath | elg: my problem is, they look into your parents tax information and assets. |
| 21:09.18 | tensai | levi: you misspelled "fugal" :) |
| 21:09.19 | levi | Hrm, so much for a bike ride today. I can hear the rain on the ceiling. |
| 21:09.36 | mheath | elg: my family owns several hundred acres of extremely valuable property in colorado |
| 21:09.52 | mheath | (used to be just farmland, became valuable because rich people started buying vacation homes there >.>) |
| 21:10.14 | elg | good for your family. that's nic |
| 21:10.15 | elg | e |
| 21:10.26 | mheath | So, they look at my dads assets, and say "Oh, the guy's family has millions of dollars. He doesn't need financial aid!" |
| 21:10.44 | elg | well they'd be right, no? |
| 21:10.53 | tensai | mheath: once you file as your own dependent try again. similar thing with my wife. |
| 21:10.54 | mheath | Not really. We'd never sell that land, its been in our family for generations, so its not money I can use for college. |
| 21:11.24 | mheath | If it wasn't for that land, I'd have financial aid pouring in |
| 21:11.31 | mheath | My family leaves off my dad's USAF retirement pay :P |
| 21:11.33 | mheath | *lives |
| 21:14.30 | elg | well it's just priorities |
| 21:17.18 | mheath | Yeah, I know |
| 21:17.39 | mheath | The point is, it makes it impossible for me to get financial aid. |
| 21:17.47 | elg | I believe it |
| 21:21.20 | mheath | Question... |
| 21:21.26 | mheath | If I take the ACT and have them send a report to USU... |
| 21:21.29 | levi | mheath: So, look for tuition reimbursement benefits while you're job-hunting. And save up as much as possible during the summers. |
| 21:21.30 | mheath | Then apply to USU... |
| 21:21.53 | mheath | Will USU then have my ACT scores on file, so I won't have to include a copy of the scores/ |
| 21:21.54 | mheath | ? |
| 21:22.10 | elg | probably |
| 21:22.13 | levi | Hmm. |
| 21:22.24 | elg | the application will certainly say whether to include the scores or not |
| 21:22.30 | levi | As far as I remember, I sent in my scores with my applications as well, but it's been a long time. |
| 21:22.53 | tensai | I think I only ever had ACT send my scores. I don't think I sent them directly |
| 21:24.45 | levi | I finished high school in Virginia, so I did the SAT. Later, I took the ACT, but my score sucked thanks to having to travel to take it and staying up late the night before. |
| 21:26.21 | RyanE_ | when I took it, you could indicate 3 schools to automagically send the scores to. If you applied anywhere else, you had to send them in as part of the application. |
| 21:27.19 | elg | same here, but when I did the GRE it was all automatic for the schools you specified |
| 21:31.35 | maquis | most of them are in the 25,000/year for tuition (then add room, board,books, etc) category |
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| 21:35.31 | jsmith | maquis: That's just plain scary |
| 21:35.41 | maquis | jsmith: east coast is expensive |
| 21:35.54 | jsmith | maquis: Everything in life is expensive... |
| 21:36.14 | maquis | jsmith: yeah... except being one of the less-intelligent in your group of friends... |
| 21:36.26 | mheath | maquis: yeah |
| 21:36.27 | mheath | Its cheap |
| 21:36.29 | Jayce^ | despite old joshc's beliefs cost was a main factor in my schooling decisions |
| 21:36.33 | mheath | But..... |
| 21:36.52 | Jayce^ | had to turn down/ not even bother applying because of cost many times... |
| 21:36.53 | mheath | if (cost > money) return false; |
| 21:37.02 | jsmith | Jayce^: Mine too... in fact, it was probably one of the *most important* aspects of my decision |
| 21:37.03 | Jayce^ | saw a few that were 25-30k |
| 21:37.25 | Jayce^ | jsmith, well, they did have to accept me too... so i can't say it was the *only* factor :) |
| 21:38.10 | jsmith | Jayce^: I was accepted at all the schools I applied to, but one offered me a *much* better scholarship than the stingier schools to the south :-) |
| 21:38.24 | maquis | i almost went to one place that was pretty expensive... my parents said they'd cover it so i wouldn't have to do loans, but i ended up deciding i didn't want to go there |
| 21:38.29 | jsmith | Full-ride vs 1/2 tuition for one semester... |
| 21:38.49 | mheath | Wow, I hate this ACT "Interest Inventory" |
| 21:39.07 | mheath | they give you all these stupid things, and say "Would you Like, dislike, or are you indifferent about doing this thing?" |
| 21:39.10 | Jayce^ | jsmith, my first choice turned me down because they had to leave room for minority applicants :( |
| 21:39.17 | mheath | "Give first aid to someone who's injured" |
| 21:39.30 | mheath | Oh yes, I hate giving first aid to someone |
| 21:39.51 | mheath | If you get hurt, I'm not going to help you. Because I hate doing it. |
| 21:39.56 | mheath | @_@ |
| 21:42.49 | mheath | And I want to know who ever says they LIKE taking inventory. |
| 21:43.04 | mheath | "Counting huge numbers of things is FUN!" |
| 21:43.32 | jsmith | mheath: C'mon it's fun. The ACT told me I should be either a concrete sculptor or an art appraiser. |
| 21:43.45 | jsmith | mheath: I'm dead serious too -- those were the only options it gave me. |
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| 21:44.19 | mheath | jsmith: a job assessment we took in junior high said I should be either an upholsterer or a brick layer |
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| 21:45.01 | mheath | Then again, the SAT (the SAT they have you take in grade and junior high school, not *THE* SAT) used to come back with reading recomendations based on your comprehension/english/reading score... |
| 21:45.18 | lars-ut | ~emulate Ms Bitters |
| 21:45.19 | ibot | The lesson here is that dreams inevitably lead to hideous implosions. |
| 21:45.21 | mheath | And in 8th grade, my score was high enough that it was literally recommending "Volume 8 of the Encylopedia of Native Americans" |
| 21:45.29 | tensai | gah! now I now why cross posting is evil |
| 21:45.39 | maquis | tensai: ??? |
| 21:45.54 | tensai | maquis: cross posting is evil |
| 21:46.09 | maquis | tensai: i know... i'm just curious what led you to undersand it |
| 21:46.09 | lars-ut | "And this one time, at Asterisk Camp..." |
| 21:46.20 | jsmith | ~lart lars-ut |
| 21:46.30 | jsmith | lars-ut: D'you get your server? |
| 21:46.37 | lars-ut | yup |
| 21:46.41 | tensai | awesome. I want to go to Asterisk Camp. |
| 21:47.00 | jsmith | tensai: Astricon -- next month in Anaheim. |
| 21:47.12 | jsmith | tensai: First 500 people to sign up get a copy of my book :-() |
| 21:48.16 | jsmith | tensai: Details at http://astricon.net/2005/ |
| 21:48.17 | tensai | maquis: recent cross posting about joshc's company to every UG in utah. it's devolving into madness. |
| 21:48.35 | maquis | tensai: have i missed them? what was the subject-line? |
| 21:49.06 | tensai | maquis: "very cool free online backup service" |
| 21:49.37 | maquis | tensai: are you sure it's on every UG in utah? |
| 21:49.44 | maquis | i haven't seen it yet, and i'm on uug and plug |
| 21:49.44 | tensai | http://utwaa.org/pipermail/waa/2005-September/000306.html |
| 21:49.51 | maquis | and i just searched my archives and it's not there |
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| 21:50.20 | tensai | the replies I've gotten seem to indicate it. I didn't really look that closely at the original message. |
| 21:52.05 | maquis | in exchange for a quality data protection |
| 21:52.05 | maquis | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:52.05 | maquis | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:52.07 | tensai | at least uphpu, utwaa and sllug. looks like plug got missed. |
| 21:52.07 | maquis | j,,, |
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| 21:52.10 | maquis | hmmm |
| 21:52.35 | goozbach | how does one create a ramdisk? |
| 21:52.52 | goozbach | not an initrd mind yow |
| 21:53.03 | elg | tmpfs |
| 21:54.00 | goozbach | hmmm not installed. darn |
| 21:54.10 | goozbach | ok ttfn |
| 21:54.15 | tensai | goozbach: http://www.vanemery.com/Linux/Ramdisk/ramdisk.html |
| 21:54.28 | tensai | mke2fs -m 0 /dev/ram0 |
| 21:54.50 | elg | tmpfs is a mount type |
| 21:55.22 | elg | sounds like tensai is taking good care of you |
| 21:56.00 | goozbach | ttensay: have a cliffotes version? |
| 21:56.15 | tensai | mke2fs -m /dev/ram0; mount /dev/ram0 /mnt |
| 21:56.33 | tensai | default ramdisk is 16MB. you need boot or module load time params to change it |
| 21:57.42 | goozbach | how does one create the block device ram0? |
| 21:58.04 | goozbach | nm |
| 21:58.10 | tensai | brw-rw---- 1 root disk 1, 0 Aug 20 15:28 /dev/ram0 |
| 21:58.13 | goozbach | missed the 0 |
| 22:00.05 | goozbach | hmmm I dont think a ramdisk is going to work with software raid |
| 22:00.31 | tensai | I think I tried it once. thought it worked too |
| 22:01.04 | amcnabb | goozbach, what's it doing wrong? |
| 22:03.13 | maquis | goozbach: whatcha tryin to do? |
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| 22:07.11 | goozbach | software raid with two thumbdrives and a ramdisk |
| 22:08.47 | goozbach | fine! just ask and run! |
| 22:09.58 | maquis_ | mhh |
| 22:10.04 | maquis_ | weirdness |
| 22:10.18 | maquis_ | so... i can't bring up websites or anything currently with my net connection |
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| 22:10.25 | maquis_ | and if i use my own router, i can't do anything |
| 22:10.58 | maquis_ | but when i jump off the wireless of someone else in my complex, i can ssh out, and i can ping and get replies to pings, but websites time out |
| 22:11.11 | maquis_ | actually... with my own router, i can get pings... but nothing else |
| 22:11.40 | maquis_ | hmmm |
| 22:11.46 | goozbach | emcnabb: game tonight? |
| 22:13.28 | lars-ut | Guess I'm not the only one w/Tuesday Game Nights. |
| 22:14.00 | xbmodder | hey? |
| 22:16.12 | xbmodder | oh crap... |
| 22:16.55 | xbmodder | http://xbmodder.us/index.php < please vote on the poll |
| 22:17.34 | maquis | why won't anything load? |
| 22:17.43 | maquis | and why do i still have ssh access?? |
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| 22:17.48 | xbmodder | hmm |
| 22:18.35 | xbmodder | can you access stuff on port 80? |
| 22:18.35 | maquis | hmmm |
| 22:18.35 | maquis | i can telnet to google on port 80, but it's *really* slow... |
| 22:18.36 | maquis | and it disconnects me before i can do anything |
| 22:18.48 | maquis | cs dept usually replies to pings, but isn't today |
| 22:19.05 | maquis | google is pretty reliable with pings at the moment |
| 22:19.11 | xbmodder | maquis, try this: set your proxy to office2004.gotdns.com port 443 |
| 22:20.42 | maquis | the connection was refused when attempting to contact the proxy server you have configured |
| 22:21.31 | maquis | telnet refuses me too |
| 22:21.49 | maquis | [osiris erins] telnet office2004.gotdns.com 443 |
| 22:21.49 | maquis | Trying 66.216.104.201... |
| 22:21.49 | maquis | telnet: connect to address 66.216.104.201: Connection refused |
| 22:21.49 | maquis | telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused |
| 22:21.58 | maquis | looks like it's seeing it pretty quick, though |
| 22:22.24 | maquis | emcnabb: you around? |
| 22:23.27 | maquis | xbmodder: can you get to cs.byu.edu? |
| 22:23.31 | maquis | does it load? |
| 22:23.35 | maquis | and does it return pings? |
| 22:24.59 | xbmodder | nope |
| 22:25.09 | maquis | no to both? |
| 22:25.15 | maquis | does google load for you? |
| 22:25.19 | xbmodder | but HTTP request it does respond to |
| 22:25.30 | xbmodder | google loads |
| 22:25.58 | xbmodder | xbmodder@served ~ $ telnet office2004.gotdns.com 443 |
| 22:25.58 | xbmodder | Trying 66.92.12.130... |
| 22:25.58 | xbmodder | Connected to office2004.gotdns.com. |
| 22:26.06 | xbmodder | someone hacking your connection? |
| 22:26.17 | maquis | xbmodder: i dunno... i'm not on my connection anymore |
| 22:26.28 | xbmodder | DNS servers may be bad. |
| 22:26.31 | maquis | my connection appears to be more hosed than this one (at least last i checked) |
| 22:26.47 | xbmodder | ping google... what IP does it come out to? |
| 22:27.21 | maquis | 216.239.57.99 this time |
| 22:27.29 | maquis | google returns pings quite nicely |
| 22:27.33 | maquis | but nothing will load for me |
| 22:27.56 | maquis | i'm going to try rebooting |
| 22:28.10 | maquis | who knows what could be up here |
| 22:29.29 | xbmodder | ouch |
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| 22:32.22 | maquis | hmmm |
| 22:32.44 | maquis | restarted laptop and router, and it all came up fine |
| 22:32.50 | maquis | well.. haven't tried the browser |
| 22:32.54 | maquis | but gaim started and logged in... |
| 22:33.23 | maquis | hmmm |
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| 22:44.24 | xbmodder | only port 80 is fuxx0red? |
| 22:44.38 | xbmodder | try to resolve office2004.gotdns.com again... |
| 22:54.18 | maquis | xbmodder: no... everything works now |
| 22:55.20 | xbmodder | cool cool cool :) |
| 22:56.26 | lars-ut | Tonight I'm playing Settlers of Catan with Cities & Knights and Seafarers expansions. Tonight's variant: http://boardgames.herlo.org/?q=node/5 |
| 22:59.15 | maquis | the "hmmm" was just puzzlement at the fact that it was working |
| 23:00.09 | xbmodder | Anyone here live near berwick, pennsylania |
| 23:00.34 | jsmith | Uh... this is #utah :-) |
| 23:00.40 | jsmith | What's in berwick? |
| 23:00.57 | xbmodder | http://xbmodder.us/pyportal/copy/50.jpg < that :) |
| 23:01.35 | xbmodder | http://gmpexpress.net/ < do you think these people would tell me who owns the IP that it came from? |
| 23:02.39 | xbmodder | She has myspace, does not smoke, female, name:ashley, 13-25 earth years of age, beanie babies, likes lion king, owns harry potter books. |
| 23:02.49 | xbmodder | now only to get her e-mail, phone, address.... |
| 23:03.35 | goozbach | then the restraining order... |
| 23:03.43 | lars-ut | then the fun begins |
| 23:03.51 | goozbach | then the beating from her hired bodyguard |
| 23:05.09 | xbmodder | lol |
| 23:05.17 | xbmodder | do you think she'll be creeped out? |
| 23:05.35 | xbmodder | i hate you.... |
| 23:05.44 | jsmith | lars-ut: Sure, just go bragging about it :-) |
| 23:05.47 | xbmodder | gentoo should be used |
| 23:06.17 | lars-ut | you don't _really_ mean that xbmodder |
| 23:06.19 | jsmith | lars-ut: Actually, I've got it on 4.0 on DVD -- I'll bring it tonight if I come, and then you can just yum update it to 4.1 |
| 23:06.24 | maquis | ~distract lars-ut |
| 23:06.26 | ibot | ACTION puts on a blonde wig and saunters past lars-ut. "Hello, sailor! Wanna go for a ride?" |
| 23:06.31 | jsmith | s/it on// |
| 23:06.43 | lars-ut | jsmith: That'd be great. |
| 23:06.45 | jsmith | maquis: Don't! It his Asterisk server. |
| 23:06.52 | lars-ut | ~assimilate Maquis |
| 23:06.55 | ibot | ACTION jams assimilation tubes into Maquis's neck and injects Borg nanobots. |
| 23:06.56 | jsmith | s/It/It's/ |
| 23:07.15 | goozbach | friday! |
| 23:07.16 | lars-ut | That'll learn ya'. |
| 23:07.19 | xbmodder | lars-ut, about gentoo yes -- about creeped out I am sure she will be :) |
| 23:07.26 | goozbach | serenity |
| 23:07.49 | lars-ut | I'm going to some 10:10 showin on Friday |
| 23:08.10 | goozbach | ~spell seopena |
| 23:08.22 | maquis | goozbach: i think it's subpoena |
| 23:08.23 | goozbach | subpoena |
| 23:08.26 | maquis | ~spell subpoena |
| 23:08.28 | goozbach | there we go |
| 23:08.54 | maquis | oh... it was in the list ibot gave |
| 23:09.07 | xbmodder | and she has a friend with braces. |
| 23:09.10 | xbmodder | and brown eyes |
| 23:09.24 | maquis | and that means what? |
| 23:09.35 | xbmodder | a link... |
| 23:10.00 | xbmodder | I like her friend's hair... :) |
| 23:10.32 | xbmodder | you just don't use xbmodder's applications!Q |
| 23:11.40 | xbmodder | goozbach, I won |
| 23:11.47 | xbmodder | goozbach, I won't get you subpoenaed... |
| 23:12.03 | xbmodder | now to practice a bit of social engineering on gmpexpress.net |
| 23:12.04 | xbmodder | :) |
| 23:12.11 | xbmodder | this should be a bit fun. |
| 23:12.31 | xbmodder | do you think she is using Tor? |
| 23:12.50 | maquis | if that company gives away her info, i hope she sues them |
| 23:12.58 | maquis | companies should never do that |
| 23:13.31 | xbmodder | even for xbmodder |
| 23:13.33 | xbmodder | :) |
| 23:13.39 | maquis | for anyone |
| 23:13.42 | xbmodder | its actually for an article I am writing... |
| 23:13.53 | xbmodder | even for xbmodder < was sarcasm... |
| 23:14.06 | maquis | if i have a company that has my information, and they give away my info, that's a severe privacy breach... |
| 23:14.38 | maquis | particularly if they give it away to some punk... |
| 23:14.46 | xbmodder | some punk? |
| 23:14.55 | xbmodder | #utah's punk? |
| 23:14.58 | maquis | some kid i don't know |
| 23:15.16 | xbmodder | yeah... |
| 23:15.20 | maquis | i would consider any guy that was trying to find me online to be a punk |
| 23:15.40 | xbmodder | or stalker |
| 23:15.46 | xbmodder | could I get charged for something? |
| 23:15.52 | maquis | possibly |
| 23:15.53 | xbmodder | i am not doing anything illegal right? |
| 23:15.57 | maquis | restraining order definitely |
| 23:16.08 | maquis | sued, possibly |
| 23:16.23 | xbmodder | sued for mental damages? |
| 23:19.17 | maquis | emotional damage... |
| 23:19.45 | xbmodder | ah great... |
| 23:19.56 | maquis | these days, anyone can sue for something like that |
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