| 00:02.15 | sjansen | I enjoy my job alot. Even when I'm not at work, I'm generally working on work-related stuff. |
| 00:02.22 | levi | Well, I can't provide a solution for that one. But you could still program in Scheme if you wanted to. |
| 00:07.41 | xbmodder_lappy | chicken? |
| 00:07.51 | xbmodder_lappy | what happens if it is raw? |
| 00:09.00 | sjansen | ~fish xbmodder_lappy |
| 00:09.01 | ibot | ACTION slaps xbmodder_lappy around with a large trout |
| 00:09.22 | xbmodder_lappy | ~chicken sjansen |
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| 00:10.21 | xbmodder_lappy | ibot, chicken is (Gallus gallus) is a type of domesticated bird which is often raised as a type of poultry. It is believed to be descended from the wild Asian Red Junglefowl. |
| 00:10.22 | ibot | ...but chicken is already something else... |
| 00:10.26 | xbmodder_lappy | ~chicken |
| 00:10.27 | ibot | rumour has it, chicken is http://kellari.org/other/linux/wanted.jpg , or free-food for all!, or a language |
| 00:10.35 | xbmodder_lappy | ibot, chicken is also (Gallus gallus) is a type of domesticated bird which is often raised as a type of poultry. It is believed to be descended from the wild Asian Red Junglefowl. |
| 00:10.37 | ibot | okay, xbmodder_lappy |
| 00:10.44 | xbmodder_lappy | ~chicken |
| 00:10.45 | ibot | chicken is, like, http://kellari.org/other/linux/wanted.jpg , or free-food for all!, or a language, or (Gallus gallus) is a type of domesticated bird which is often raised as a type of poultry. It is believed to be descended from the wild Asian Red Junglefowl. |
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| 00:28.56 | xbmodder_lappy | Would you guys like a service that you can call into and it'll play your music over the phone |
| 00:31.23 | hans | oooh, evil idea |
| 00:43.37 | xbmodder_lappy | has anyone here wrote apps for cell phones? |
| 00:44.23 | hans | xbmodder_lappy: I made a MIDI ringtone for mine. does that count? |
| 00:45.02 | xbmodder_lappy | umm i don't think so |
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| 01:21.50 | xbmodder_lappy | hey |
| 01:21.58 | xbmodder_lappy | development question for you all: |
| 01:22.12 | xbmodder_lappy | I am developing a Music and Video serving service |
| 01:22.13 | graphyx | Good evening yalls |
| 01:22.31 | xbmodder_lappy | should I store the video/music on file system? |
| 01:22.46 | xbmodder_lappy | or MySQL db? |
| 01:24.39 | graphyx | system. |
| 01:24.40 | TimRiker | indexes in a database. files on disk. |
| 01:24.59 | graphyx | Databases don't give any better preformance for large files. |
| 01:25.07 | xbmodder_lappy | i know that |
| 01:25.12 | xbmodder_lappy | but its alot easier to organize |
| 01:25.14 | graphyx | And in some cases give out worse performance. |
| 01:25.17 | xbmodder_lappy | and security wize |
| 01:25.19 | xbmodder_lappy | *wise |
| 01:25.49 | TimRiker | if folks can get to the raw files on disk, you have serious security problems. |
| 01:26.32 | TimRiker | I would not point people to the file inside the web server, I would run a script on the web server that verifies the user credentials and then delivers the file. |
| 01:26.51 | xbmodder_lappy | TimRiker, thanks |
| 01:26.58 | graphyx | That makes sense. |
| 01:27.16 | TimRiker | you don't want a url that they can bookmark, pass on to others and it'll work. |
| 01:27.23 | xbmodder_lappy | I am thinking of putting it in /home/mp3/ |
| 01:27.24 | graphyx | Like when they were distributing scripts that would continually download a 58 Meg file from SCO's website as a form of DoS. |
| 01:27.37 | xbmodder_lappy | and then a script that verfies a cookie |
| 01:27.45 | xbmodder_lappy | and serves it |
| 01:27.52 | TimRiker | you want a user credentials verified on one page, then store a session cookie, then use verify that cookie and deliver the file. |
| 01:28.09 | graphyx | Be sure to prevent cookie replay attacks. |
| 01:28.28 | TimRiker | it's a Good Thing to use PATH_INFO so that something like /cgi-bin/nph-fastfile/foo.mp3 gets passed to the user's browser. |
| 01:28.39 | graphyx | MY college had that problem for the main student admin page. You could sniff and intercept the auth cookies and get access as the other person to the student class management program. |
| 01:28.57 | TimRiker | that way the "file name" is correct. but actually nph-fastfile is a script, not a directory. |
| 01:29.27 | TimRiker | yes, verifying that the cookie is coming from the "right" ip. is a Good Thing. |
| 01:31.59 | TimRiker | using an nph script bypasses the web server caching the file etc. which is a good thing. be sure to set cache pragmas for those large files, though most decent caches have size limits anyway. |
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| 02:49.26 | Hhhhh | hello |
| 02:51.31 | graphyx | hi |
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| 03:01.30 | levi | Yo. |
| 03:02.06 | goozbach | no |
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| 03:02.55 | goozbach | ~lart long layovers late at night |
| 03:03.03 | maquis | ~lart everything |
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| 03:04.21 | levi | Heya, hans. |
| 03:06.17 | graphyx | levi: What did you say to him? |
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| 03:06.22 | graphyx | ~lart levi |
| 03:07.33 | maquis | hans: stop opening the door so much! |
| 03:15.34 | hans | maquis: what door? |
| 03:15.58 | graphyx | you know.. |
| 03:16.03 | graphyx | In or out, but shut the door! |
| 03:16.32 | hans | ~lart doors |
| 03:16.46 | maquis | hans: you kept coming in and out... in and out... |
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| 03:17.23 | hans | only like three or four times I think. trying my hand at raw IRC |
| 03:18.00 | levi | raw IRC? |
| 03:18.18 | hans | yeah, like: :levi!n=levi@levi.dsl.xmission.com PRIVMSG #utah :raw IRC? |
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| 03:18.41 | levi | Yuck. |
| 03:18.49 | hans | toying with writing a super-simple IRC lib e.g. for simplistic bots |
| 03:19.15 | hans | so I'm seeing how the protocol works from the inside out |
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| 03:20.07 | elg | but it's a pain to have to type "privmsg #utah :" before each message |
| 03:20.16 | bonez41 | I recently registered a new domain name, for my system at home here.....prior to that, I could access, via samba, a printer attached to a winxp machine on my home LAN...now, since registering the domain for my home machine, I can't print to that printer. and if I try to mount a drive on the winxp machine, it takes me to some other machine out on the net...with an IP unfamiliar to me... |
| 03:21.09 | bonez41 | I ran into this same thing before at work...where i could just 'mount /mountpointonwinmachine' and connect, but had to then change something in /etc/hosts or something...does this make sense? |
| 03:22.05 | goozbach | another flight. |
| 03:22.11 | bonez41 | it appears i had to add the ip number of the windows machine, followed by the windows machine name and then I could mount to it agaiin... |
| 03:22.31 | goozbach | it takes entirely too long to cross the country |
| 03:22.58 | elg | goozbach: your mission is to make the country smaller. compress it |
| 03:23.02 | elg | without violating any patents. |
| 03:23.26 | levi | Or physical laws. |
| 03:23.37 | goozbach | doh! I was thing zlib |
| 03:23.56 | hans | ACTION sings |
| 03:24.34 | hans | ~lart something |
| 03:24.56 | goozbach | and mattercomperssor-v0.3 is using schlincchylib |
| 03:28.03 | graphyx | So I use google to check for cached pages on the sites I pen test. |
| 03:28.08 | graphyx | I found a page that had a sample of perl on it. |
| 03:28.14 | graphyx | And part of the perl was this.. |
| 03:28.21 | graphyx | # Heres an example transaction. (Amounts are taken in US dollars.) $ar = process_transaction(1,562519011,2,"Testfirst", "Testlast", "123 Some addr", "Testtown", "FL", "33071", "US", "800-555-1212", "test@testing.com", "25.00", "4747474747474747", "03", "2003", "SALE", "NA", "127.0.0.1", "testmaster",""); |
| 03:28.30 | graphyx | SO they just handed me the database datatypes and order. |
| 03:28.33 | graphyx | nice eh? |
| 03:29.40 | goozbach | well... main cabin door and all that. |
| 03:29.58 | goozbach | bye |
| 03:30.09 | graphyx | goozbach: |
| 03:30.18 | graphyx | If you are going to compress the nation, please use a lossless compression agent. |
| 03:30.50 | graphyx | or make sure you only loss places like the deep south or Redmond, WA |
| 03:30.55 | goozbach | graphix: good idea. we wouldnt want to lose idaho oor montana |
| 03:36.57 | graphyx | nite all |
| 03:37.07 | maquis | graphyx: gnight |
| 03:52.48 | mheath | *sigh* |
| 03:53.05 | mheath | I'm going to fail my math class, and guaranteed to fail my test in math tomorrow |
| 03:53.15 | maquis | noon seattle time is 1pm utah time, right? |
| 03:53.20 | maquis | mheath: what's it on? |
| 03:53.29 | bonez41 | Erin..why so confident? |
| 03:53.46 | maquis | bonez41: ??? |
| 03:53.52 | bonez41 | er.....Mheath....why such confidence in your math class? |
| 03:54.04 | mheath | maquis, Instantaneous Slope, average slope |
| 03:54.09 | bonez41 | maquis, sorry, the names are running together...got late day dyslexia |
| 03:54.16 | maquis | bonez41: mmmk |
| 03:54.31 | mheath | I get the basics of average slope, but am really confused about some of the weirder stuff...The instantaneous slope I don't get at all |
| 03:54.32 | maquis | mheath: average slope is not too bad... here's the simple way |
| 03:54.40 | maquis | take the starting point and the ending point and the distance between |
| 03:54.48 | maquis | instantaneous slope is a lot harder |
| 03:55.25 | mheath | Ontop of that, I really messed up my glasses, and can't wear them...so I'm having trouble seeing the board to follow whats going on |
| 03:55.45 | mheath | I just got this pair, and I'm too afraid of my dads reaction to tell him I need a new pair |
| 03:55.57 | mheath | I'm having so much trouble with this class..... |
| 03:56.26 | mheath | I transfered out halfway through the prerequisite class last year, so I'm missing some of the basics, AND I haven't had any math for about a year (out of the habit) |
| 03:56.57 | maquis | mheath: that sucks |
| 03:57.13 | mheath | I got some bad habits, so my grades in highschool haven't been that good (procrastination, etc) |
| 03:57.32 | mheath | I'm trying desperately to keep it above a 3.0 my senior year, because thats the window for many college acceptances and scholarships |
| 03:57.51 | mheath | I can't afford to get an F.. |
| 03:58.31 | maquis | bonez41: you good at time conversion? |
| 03:58.33 | mheath | (Yeah, I'm joining the Navy, but I'll probably finish up college *after* the Navy, and so scholarships would be useful....The GI Bill doesn't cut it) |
| 03:59.05 | maquis | mheath: i understand. have you gone in to talk to the teacher at all? |
| 03:59.14 | tensai | maquis: 60 seconds in a minute |
| 03:59.26 | maquis | tensai: i need to convert utah time and seattle time |
| 03:59.38 | maquis | and i just want to make sure i'm not doing it backwards |
| 03:59.51 | tensai | you were right earlier |
| 03:59.58 | mheath | maquis, I'm afraid too. She's convinced I'm amazingly good at math, because I did very well on some of the early assignments. And because I gave an unexpectedly advanced/concise/complete answer to one particular question. |
| 04:00.04 | mheath | I think I'll have to, though |
| 04:00.17 | maquis | mheath: never be afraid to go talk to a teacher |
| 04:00.19 | maquis | seriously |
| 04:00.42 | maquis | i had one class here at college where i did almost every assignment for the first month during the teacher's office hours |
| 04:00.47 | mheath | I'm worried I'll get the same reaction from her that I got from my dad. (Who ignores the fact that I've been spending half my time trying to figure things out, and just yells at me for not coming to him for help earlier) |
| 04:01.15 | maquis | i was so confused on how to do the stuff, but it finally clicked after the prof worked it over with me at least a hundred times |
| 04:01.20 | mheath | I tried to vent some of these frustrations and stressors to my dad. He's convinced that he's amazing at tutoring his children in math, so he just got angry that I didn't come to him for help earlier. |
| 04:01.33 | levi | mheath: Don't worry about that, just ask your teacher. |
| 04:01.40 | mheath | maquis, I'm the same way |
| 04:01.45 | maquis | mheath: i understand being afraid... i was afraid that my teacher would think i was stupid because he had explained it in class every single day |
| 04:01.49 | mheath | Theres a point where it will suddenly click, and I'll get it perfectly |
| 04:01.57 | mheath | have no problem at all with it after that |
| 04:02.00 | maquis | but he was really nice about it, and just worked with me... |
| 04:02.10 | mheath | Unfortunately, I've failed to reach that point with any of the coursework so far.. |
| 04:02.12 | maquis | i ended up really understanding it for the first time the night before the exam |
| 04:02.26 | maquis | mheath: just trust your teacher |
| 04:02.29 | mheath | Its the night before a test right now |
| 04:02.43 | mheath | And I wanted to *try* to do some more last minute studying, but I stupidly left my book at school >.< |
| 04:03.28 | maquis | mheath: so maybe tomorrow's test won't go as well... but teachers tend to be pretty understanding if you completely fail something at the beginning of the semester, and then work and work and work and improve after that |
| 04:03.38 | maquis | even in college teachers are understanding about that] |
| 04:06.03 | levi | mheath: I had a Calc class, part 2 of a 2-class series, and I hadn't taken /any/ classes in about 3 years. The bookstore was out of textbooks, the lectures were in a gigantic auditorium and the teacher couldn't teach worth a darn, and my TA barely spoke english. I started off /way/ behind and didn't understand what was going on. Fortunately, we got a new TA and I got a textbook, and by the end of the class I managed to pull a B of some sort. So, you /c |
| 04:06.41 | levi | mheath: If you'd like me to try to explain the things you're going to be covering, I can try. |
| 04:07.23 | mheath | levi, I think I'm going to go into the teacher tomorrow before class, explain whats going on, ask for some extra help, and ask to be able to retake the test (which I know I'm going to fail) sometime next week. |
| 04:08.16 | levi | mheath: What parts of average slopes and instantaneous slopes are you not understanding? |
| 04:09.39 | mheath | levi, don't worry about it. I'm so confused about a lot of stuff that I'm sure is basic to the concept, that I doubt you'd be able to help much in the few minutes I have before I need to go to sleep |
| 04:10.08 | mheath | I'm going to stop being so stressed out, for tonight...and just go and talk to the teacher in the morning. Thank you, though.. |
| 04:11.01 | levi | I would like to try to explain some of it, though, if only for my own benefit. Unless you really don't want to hear it. |
| 04:13.30 | mheath | levi, thanks...but again, I'm going to spend some time doing some things to help me relax and be less stressful, then go to sleep |
| 04:14.19 | levi | OK. |
| 04:15.16 | tensai | levi: if it helps I'm not interested either :) |
| 04:15.52 | maquis | haha |
| 04:16.18 | levi | Calculus really is cool, though. It often gets a bad rap in high school, as people think it's useless, but it's actually quite useful. It's fundamental to physics, for example. And general problem solving. |
| 04:16.21 | mheath | *sigh* school problems wouldn't be so hard to tolerate if I wasn't already busy with relationship problems and work problems |
| 04:16.58 | maquis | going to have to go look it up |
| 04:17.08 | maquis | mheath: i understand.... |
| 04:17.31 | mheath | I'm growing up way too fast :( |
| 04:17.37 | tensai | levi: I felt like crying when my physics professor told us that integration was the easy part |
| 04:17.42 | mheath | It was nice being a kid, no responsibility, nothing to worry about |
| 04:18.16 | mheath | Now I've got a job, lots of expenses, a stressful school schedule, and I'm moving out in 9 months =P |
| 04:18.54 | tensai | worrying is overrated. all it gets you is an ulcer. |
| 04:19.10 | levi | mheath: Welcome to the world. Don't worry, you'll get used to it, and then it will get worse. ;) No, really, that's what everyone says, but I think life got easier after I got through that transition. |
| 04:19.46 | levi | But like tensai says, worrying too much doesn't help. |
| 04:20.18 | tensai | and this time I'm not just being a smarta** |
| 04:20.23 | maquis | tensai: saying that is one thing... actually applying it is a lot harder |
| 04:20.57 | tensai | maquis: true, but for whatever reason I'm actually pretty good at it. really irritates my wife some times. |
| 04:21.35 | levi | tensai: You're good at worrying, or not worrying? |
| 04:21.43 | tensai | good at not worrying |
| 04:25.18 | levi | I'm often good at it, but occasionally the worry-bug gets me. |
| 04:25.19 | tensai | this weekend I may finally get to make some salsa from my garden. blasted tomatoes are taking their sweet time turning red. |
| 04:25.29 | levi | Oooh, fresh salsa! |
| 04:26.43 | tensai | I have these grand theories of making enough salsa to last all winter, but who am I kidding? I'll eat it all long before that. |
| 04:27.20 | levi | My in-laws grow tomatoes, and my wife goes over to harvest them often, so we always have fresh tomatoes! |
| 04:27.45 | levi | I used some tonight in an unfortunate attempt to make a yummy pasta sauce. |
| 04:28.54 | tensai | canned tomatoes are an extremely useful product |
| 04:29.08 | levi | I made an alfredo sauce, and that worked out okay. Then I sauteed some mushrooms, garlic, sun-dried tomatoes, and a little chicken stock. I added the alfredo sauce, but the pan was too hot and it broke the sauce. :( |
| 04:29.37 | mheath | tensai, ineed. Canned tomatoes are just as good for sauces and such |
| 04:29.48 | tensai | levi: sounded good right up to the end |
| 04:29.52 | mheath | For salads, sandwhiches, etc. nothing can beat home grown |
| 04:30.19 | levi | I just used the fresh tomatoes for a garnish afterward. |
| 04:30.27 | tensai | we have two cherry plants. those make delicious snacks. |
| 04:30.45 | levi | I also didn't make enough sauce, so the pasta mostly tasted buttered. The mushrooms were really yummy, though! |
| 04:30.47 | tensai | cherry tomato, that is |
| 04:31.44 | maquis | sauteed chantrelles |
| 04:31.45 | maquis | mmm |
| 04:32.01 | maquis | tensai: thanks! |
| 04:32.23 | tensai | I made ginger ale on sunday I think. recipe called for way too much vanilla. |
| 04:32.29 | levi | I didn't have any fresh mushrooms, so I had to use canned ones, but the rest of the stuff in the sauce made them yummy. |
| 04:32.38 | levi | tensai: Oops. How'd it turn out? |
| 04:33.21 | tensai | unfortunately, I followed the recipe too closely. tastes more like vanilla ale. The ginger taste in the background is pretty nice though. |
| 04:34.07 | tensai | with less vanilla I think it would have been good. maybe I'll go try another glass. |
| 04:34.42 | mheath | ugh, after the slashdot makeover, we've got ugly URLs like http://rss.slashdot.org/slashdot/slashdot.xml~a/~a/~a/~a/~a/Slashdot/slashdot?m=720 |
| 04:35.17 | levi | tensai: How spicy is it? |
| 04:36.47 | levi | mheath: Good night, and good luck with your teacher tomorrow. |
| 04:37.45 | maquis | gnight mheath |
| 04:38.02 | tensai | levi: the glass I had just now was pretty spicy. and nasty. I think I'll leave the ginger ale making to somebody else. |
| 04:38.55 | xbmodder_lappy | cool |
| 04:39.19 | tensai | my next foray will be risotto. I bought some mushrooms for it but my wife made fettucini alfredo with them. I'll forgive her as it was quite good. |
| 04:39.29 | levi | Oooh, risotto is good! |
| 04:39.53 | levi | tensai: I like spicy ginger ale. What was nasty about it? |
| 04:40.06 | maquis | you guys are making me hungry |
| 04:40.11 | tensai | levi: the way it burned the back of my throat |
| 04:40.32 | tensai | maquis: that's what we're here for |
| 04:40.50 | maquis | tensai: not helpful |
| 04:41.13 | levi | tensai: Sounds like good ginger ale, then! :) |
| 04:41.30 | levi | tensai: The stuff I made barely even tickled. :( |
| 04:41.39 | tensai | levi: you can have all you want. just climb down the drain pipe and collect it. |
| 04:42.32 | levi | tensai: I mail-ordered some Blenheim ginger ale that was so strong, you practically had to plug your nose while drinking it. If you let any of the fizz get in your nose, it set off a coughing fit. |
| 04:43.24 | tensai | I'm not sure what I'll do with all this carbonated water. I'm thinking there's got to be something I can use it in. |
| 04:43.28 | tensai | biscuits maybe? |
| 04:44.45 | levi | Grab some Italian syrup and some half and half and make Italian sodas. |
| 04:45.09 | levi | Those are hard to screw up. :) |
| 04:46.07 | tensai | I see some people use soda water to make tempura |
| 04:48.59 | levi | tempura is good, but, mmm, Italian soda! |
| 04:50.53 | xbmodder_lappy | tempura? |
| 04:51.04 | xbmodder_lappy | tempura wa dame desu! |
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| 06:14.23 | tensai | o/~ Sont les mots qui vont tres bien ensemble |
| 06:14.23 | tensai | Name That Tune! |
| 06:14.47 | maquis | midi qui la dit. la petite souris. |
| 06:14.57 | maquis | ou es elle a la dentell |
| 06:15.09 | maquis | oops |
| 06:15.17 | maquis | ou es elle? a la chapelle |
| 06:15.22 | tensai | me no speakie frenchie |
| 06:15.24 | maquis | che fait elle |
| 06:15.30 | maquis | de la dentelle |
| 06:15.38 | maquis | por qui? por les dames de paris |
| 06:15.42 | maquis | tensai: me neither |
| 06:15.52 | maquis | i took it from 1st t 4th grades |
| 06:16.00 | maquis | and that ^^^ is everything i remember |
| 06:16.10 | maquis | (and i'm sure it's horridly spelled) |
| 06:23.14 | tensai | I think my elementary school teachers would just be glad I'm still not eating paste |
| 06:23.26 | maquis | :) |
| 06:23.38 | tensai | mmmmm |
| 06:23.46 | maquis | "still not eating paste" or "not still eating paste"? |
| 06:24.04 | tensai | yeah, the other way makes more sense |
| 06:24.29 | tensai | clearly they wouldn't be amazed by my linguistics |
| 06:24.53 | maquis | i mean... generally in my experience, most teachers aren't too worried that their elementary students will start eating paste later in life |
| 06:25.00 | tensai | but look at me feed a baby and type! |
| 06:25.14 | maquis | :) |
| 06:25.24 | maquis | baby? boy? girl? how old? |
| 06:25.37 | tensai | boy, 3 months |
| 06:26.11 | maquis | fun! do you have pictures? |
| 06:27.07 | tensai | http://www.zmonkey.org/gallery/2005-Sep-Blessing |
| 06:27.47 | tensai | http://www.zmonkey.org/gallery/2005-July-Levi/p6260009 |
| 06:27.53 | levi | And an excellently-named young lad he is! ;) |
| 06:27.57 | maquis | cute!!!!!!! |
| 06:28.05 | maquis | big eyes |
| 06:28.56 | tensai | I made a point of keeping the picture of the placenta. it's good for a laugh. :) |
| 06:29.00 | tensai | maquis: thx |
| 06:29.54 | maquis | tensai: so you're letting your wife sleep right now and you're feeding him for a bit? |
| 06:30.26 | tensai | not quite. she was out partying and just got home |
| 06:30.35 | maquis | cool |
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| 13:43.19 | graphyx | tensai: I think I like the one picture of that boy holding the baby. |
| 13:43.23 | graphyx | It's rather cute. |
| 13:43.28 | graphyx | Here are my pictures: |
| 13:43.30 | graphyx | klingler.us/gallery |
| 14:05.25 | bonez39 | klingler....? I know some klingler's here in salt lake...and draper |
| 14:07.19 | graphyx | Well we are probably distantly related. |
| 14:07.35 | graphyx | None of my immediate relatives who have the last name of klingler live in utah. |
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| 14:14.47 | bonez39 | morning, byronc |
| 14:15.56 | byronc | morning |
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| 14:31.26 | bonez39 | I installed Debian Stable on my new hard drive... |
| 14:31.38 | maquis | bonez39: congrats |
| 14:34.25 | bonez39 | maquis, damn..that's not all...it runs well, and GnuCash works on it...now though, I want to run FreeNX.... but it only shows sources for /etc/apt/source.list... but the sources are both unstable..... |
| 14:35.02 | bonez39 | so I am in a quandry.....do I install this and enable remote access to my desktop from home, and potentially cripple GnuCash and other programs....or just wait for stable release... |
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| 14:38.05 | maquis | bonez39: good luck figuring that out |
| 14:38.33 | maquis | when i had debian on this box, i was running a combination of testing and unstable, and still didn't feel like i could get anything up-to-date on the box |
| 14:39.09 | bonez39 | maquis, hmmm ok |
| 14:39.35 | maquis | bonez39: it just depends on whether you're willing to take a risk there... |
| 14:39.46 | bonez39 | I know I am behind with some things..but I really like that gnucash and some other programs run fine.....I will write the folks at FreeNX and see what they say about it |
| 14:40.45 | byronc | bonez39: you can always set your default release to testing. then, depending on the repository you will only get the FreeNX stuff from unstable |
| 14:40.59 | byronc | bonez39: what is the repository they point to? |
| 14:42.08 | bonez39 | the repository is deb http://debian.tu-bs.de/project/kanotix/unstable/ ./ |
| 14:42.21 | bonez39 | byronc, how do I set my release to testing? |
| 14:42.43 | bonez39 | and how do I tell aptitude (damnable thing) to quit telling me it wants to uninstall everything I just installed, using apt-get ? |
| 14:43.00 | byronc | bonez39: s/testing/stable |
| 14:43.09 | bonez39 | that drives me nuts..I run aptitude install and it says, Here....Let's remove all that you really want on there..and put all stuff you just deleted back on... |
| 14:43.25 | byronc | bonez39: if you change that url to http://debian.tu-bs.de/project/kanotix/stable you should get the same versions but built for stable |
| 14:43.49 | byronc | bonez39: just run aptitude install <list of packages you want to keep> |
| 14:43.52 | bonez39 | byronc, so in my sources.list...mark it with /testing/stable instead of just /stable? |
| 14:44.04 | bonez39 | oh, I see....ok |
| 14:44.33 | byronc | bonez39: sorry, typo. just replace unstable with stable |
| 14:44.55 | bonez39 | and i need the './' at the end right? |
| 14:45.00 | byronc | bonez39: yes |
| 14:45.06 | bonez39 | both lines for the code and source..include that.... |
| 14:45.11 | bonez39 | ok |
| 14:46.09 | bonez39 | with debian having 'sarge' now as their primary release version...(my references are all marked 'stable') could I change them to 'sarge' instead or might that wreak havoc? |
| 14:47.29 | byronc | bonez39: on official debian repositories that shouldn't cause any problems |
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| 14:47.49 | byronc | bonez39: on that freenx repository it doesn't look like they have a symlink for it so you'll need to leave it as stable |
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| 14:52.32 | bonez39 | byronc, oh, you took a look....thanks...it tells me to Install the following build-depends packages: *** sudo apt-get install cdbs autotools-dev patchutils autoconf bzip2 zlib1g-dev libpng12-dev libjpeg-dev xlibs-dev libfreetype6-dev libmikmod2-dev libssl-dev libxaw7-dev automake1.9 |
| 14:52.55 | bonez39 | I assume I just run apt-get install on those and others it references there, to have freenx install, correct? |
| 14:53.04 | bonez39 | byronc, I appeciate your help here |
| 14:54.25 | maquis | bonez39: i'd be slightly concerned about making sure that none of those are going ot cause problems with other packages |
| 14:56.43 | bonez39 | maquis, how does one check to see if they will clash? |
| 14:56.56 | bonez39 | I am so paranoid..don't want ot break my system..... |
| 14:57.06 | sjansen | http://daringfireball.net/2005/09/ditty |
| 14:57.14 | maquis | bonez39: not sure... that might be something to ask someone else |
| 14:58.31 | bonez39 | ok... |
| 14:58.38 | bonez39 | sjansen, that for me? |
| 14:58.50 | maquis | sjansen: that's hilarious! |
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| 15:04.08 | byronc | bonez39: you shouldn't need to install any build-depends to install a package |
| 15:04.08 | xbmodder | hey |
| 15:05.19 | sjansen | heh, looks like evince is aiming to have support for a subset of pdf form features by april 2006, their target document for testing: http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f1040.pdf |
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| 15:17.10 | sjansen | So I'm looking for a nice turnkey rysnc based incremental backup solution. The first hit looks interesting, but I didn't even make it past the first sentence: " |
| 15:17.22 | sjansen | " |
| 15:17.32 | sjansen | "RIBS is an incremental backup system written in PHP [...]" |
| 15:17.40 | sjansen | ~lart irssi |
| 15:17.56 | graphyx | ~bart irssi |
| 15:17.58 | ibot | ACTION forces irssi to eat her shorts |
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| 15:20.46 | emcnabb | good morning |
| 15:21.22 | sjansen | ~fart emcnabb |
| 15:21.24 | ibot | ACTION farts in emcnabb's general direction |
| 15:25.12 | emcnabb | ugh |
| 15:25.43 | maquis | emcnabb: welcome home! |
| 15:26.44 | emcnabb | glad to be home |
| 15:27.28 | sjansen | "rsnapshot is written entirely in Perl [...]" <-- hmmmm, this looks more promising |
| 15:27.41 | graphyx | emcnabb, welcome back. |
| 15:31.32 | sjansen | rsnapshot is being actively developed, has a two year history, and Ubuntu Universe has it packaged--I think we have a winner |
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| 15:31.50 | maquis | emcnabb: i trust you had a big dinner last night? |
| 15:42.32 | emcnabb | yes |
| 15:43.10 | graphyx | You know.. |
| 15:43.20 | graphyx | They all complain about how bad the damage will be . |
| 15:43.25 | graphyx | And how it is really terrible, |
| 15:43.38 | graphyx | but hasn't there been a history of huricanes in that area? |
| 15:43.52 | graphyx | I mean with that history they still chose to move where they moved to. |
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| 16:13.10 | maquis | graphyx: i think the thing is that it's a lot worse than what they've had in the past |
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| 16:16.13 | Jayce^ | just recent past actually |
| 16:16.32 | Jayce^ | galveston was literally destroyed 100 yrs ago.. |
| 16:17.32 | maquis | yeah... that's what i meant... |
| 16:17.38 | maquis | in the past that people remember |
| 16:17.55 | bonez39 | I print stuff out using 'lp filename' and the laserjet has truncated the sides by about 1/4 inch....both sides....never had this happen before.... |
| 16:18.45 | maquis | lpoptions? |
| 16:19.04 | maquis | i don't know the syntax for lpoptions, but it might be helpful |
| 16:19.51 | bonez39 | what I need is an option to tell it to start printing in .5 inch from all sides... |
| 16:19.54 | bonez39 | ok |
| 16:20.08 | maquis | my guess is that lpoptions lets you do that |
| 16:21.01 | bonez39 | ok... |
| 16:21.41 | maquis | huh? |
| 16:22.08 | dataw0lf | lpr -o page-left=31 -o page-right=31 -o page-top=31 -o page-bottom=31 blah.txt |
| 16:22.29 | dataw0lf | err 36 |
| 16:22.35 | dataw0lf | s/31/36/g |
| 16:22.42 | dataw0lf | man, that's embarrassing |
| 16:22.44 | maquis | wow |
| 16:23.17 | dataw0lf | yeah, I know, I'm sorry I'm tired. |
| 16:23.27 | RyanE | c'mon dw, everyone knows there's 72 pts in an inch... :) |
| 16:23.52 | Jayce^ | RyanE, way to deflate things :-p |
| 16:24.52 | dataw0lf | now, if you want those options to be saved, bonez39, use lpoptions. |
| 16:25.06 | dataw0lf | it'll write to your ~/.lpoptions file |
| 16:25.18 | dataw0lf | if you use it as root, it modifies the global lpoptions file, of course |
| 16:26.54 | bonez39 | ok...... |
| 16:26.59 | bonez39 | dataw0lf, thanks for the help.... |
| 16:27.10 | dataw0lf | yw |
| 16:28.16 | bonez39 | dataw0lf, the =31 or =36 options..is that in picas, or points, what measurement value? |
| 16:29.33 | bonez39 | dataw0lf, is there any way to make lpr carry words around, instead of summarily truncating them, midword and end of line? |
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| 16:32.22 | maquis | bonez39: i don't think lpr can do that |
| 16:32.28 | maquis | i think you have to do that in the document itself... |
| 16:32.42 | maquis | (ie, change your margins in the print options) |
| 16:32.55 | bonez39 | ok... |
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| 17:10.10 | dataw0lf | man. Can't wait to see the Corpse Bride |
| 17:10.39 | levi | Looks like it could be fun. |
| 17:12.02 | barkingspider | I'm gonna see that with some family members |
| 17:12.39 | barkingspider | Darn, some guy took my nick again. Time to kick him off for the umpteenth time |
| 17:14.23 | linuxalien | I'm gonna lecture him if he does it again. |
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| 17:39.23 | sjansen | ~seen Newsome |
| 17:39.31 | ibot | newsome is currently on #utah (1h 23m 21s) |
| 17:40.26 | sjansen | Newsome: Do you think this is something groklaw'd be interested in? http://utahcalifornian.typepad.com/my_weblog/2005/09/canopy_on_the_b.html |
| 17:41.17 | Newsome | I would think so. |
| 17:42.23 | Newsome | sjansen: send it to PJ, and see what she says. |
| 17:43.57 | sjansen | news@groklaw.net right? |
| 17:44.21 | Newsome | I'd probably send it directly to PJ at pj@groklaw.net |
| 17:47.51 | synic | omg, I found martin gore on myspace. |
| 17:48.08 | elg | you have your own spacew? |
| 17:48.21 | synic | :P |
| 17:55.15 | sjansen | ~dart goozbach |
| 17:55.17 | ibot | ACTION toasts goozbach with a five foot long bluedart |
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| 18:09.06 | jce | man BYU has a fat pipe... |
| 18:10.29 | jce | just downloaded 100 MB at 3.5 MB/s from SUN. |
| 18:11.37 | linuxalien | Nice. |
| 18:13.37 | sjansen | rice, beans, farofa, and root beer -- yum |
| 18:14.11 | linuxalien | I want some pizza |
| 18:16.28 | vontrapp | free pizza last night |
| 18:22.14 | vontrapp | is there a way to cast a field (MySQL) from datetime to just date? |
| 18:22.26 | vontrapp | like select date(field) <- doesn't work |
| 18:22.42 | Jayce^ | fa-fa-fa-farofa... |
| 18:22.56 | vontrapp | apparently his computer had pizza withdrawls as well |
| 18:23.39 | Jayce^ | yeah, there's a whole slew of date stuff, just search the docs quick for date and stuff.. there is a page that lists them all |
| 18:24.07 | tensai | SELECT CAST(foo AS DATE) |
| 18:24.11 | tensai | http://dev.mysql.com/doc/mysql/en/cast-functions.html |
| 18:24.40 | vontrapp | cast(foo as date) kept the time part |
| 18:24.50 | vontrapp | i guess i'll use date_format |
| 18:27.21 | vontrapp | date() should work, but it's doesn't |
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| 18:28.18 | vontrapp | works on my computer, but not on the remote server |
| 18:28.24 | tensai | have you tried cursing at it? |
| 18:28.40 | vontrapp | it's probably because it's on a mac |
| 18:28.42 | vontrapp | ~curse mac |
| 18:28.43 | ibot | May you be reincarnated as a Windows XP administrator, mac ! |
| 18:28.54 | neybar_work | ouch |
| 18:29.52 | linuxalien | Haha I have a Mac - it works decently. |
| 18:30.05 | linuxalien | But I guess I've never tried it with every known piece of hardware. |
| 18:30.06 | vontrapp | date does? |
| 18:30.21 | linuxalien | Oh wait, I got here in the middle of the convo. What's date? |
| 18:30.32 | vontrapp | in mysql |
| 18:31.04 | linuxalien | Oh ok, nm. I thought you meant in general. Oops. |
| 18:31.33 | vontrapp | i don't know that it's macs fault, but had to blame something |
| 18:31.35 | vontrapp | ~blame mac |
| 18:31.36 | ibot | ACTION blames mac for all the evil in the world |
| 18:31.39 | vontrapp | haha |
| 18:32.44 | sjansen | vontrapp: time to switch to postgres |
| 18:33.38 | tensai | FYI I have it on good authority that gas prices will be going up significantly tomorrow |
| 18:33.55 | vontrapp | sjansen: perhaps, but if i could get anything to change, it would first be php -> ruby |
| 18:34.04 | vontrapp | :) |
| 18:36.14 | phinux | Could be worse, could be reincarnated as a Windows ME admin. |
| 18:36.49 | phinux | Hmm...phinux needs to keep up with the conversation. |
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| 19:14.13 | graphyx | what attack vector does he plan on using? |
| 19:14.15 | graphyx | reposession? |
| 19:15.38 | jsmith | sjansen will just hack in and take over :-) |
| 19:16.33 | graphyx | I thought that was my job.. |
| 19:17.08 | jsmith | Whoever... |
| 19:17.17 | graphyx | ;) |
| 19:20.27 | vontrapp | man, why can't ssh just ignore the whole host validation thing when going to localhost?! |
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| 19:23.47 | maquis | help! |
| 19:23.58 | maquis | so... umm |
| 19:24.08 | maquis | stuck doing c++ and i don't know c++ |
| 19:24.13 | maquis | and i'm getting a weird linking error: |
| 19:24.16 | maquis | mySha.o(.text+0x19): In function `main': |
| 19:24.16 | maquis | : undefined reference to `operator new(unsigned)' |
| 19:24.16 | maquis | mySha.o(.text+0x4d): In function `main': |
| 19:24.16 | maquis | : undefined reference to `operator delete(void*)' |
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| 19:24.21 | maquis | it goes on a bit further |
| 19:24.27 | maquis | but i don't quite get it |
| 19:25.23 | maquis | anyone??? |
| 19:26.14 | maquis | ~invoke sjansen |
| 19:26.19 | tensai | maquis: are you compiling with gcc or g++? |
| 19:26.31 | maquis | tensai: gcc... because i can't figure out how to convince g++ to exist |
| 19:26.38 | maquis | but according to the gcc manpage |
| 19:26.42 | maquis | it should work... |
| 19:26.59 | maquis | it says that it automagically recognizes .cpp files... |
| 19:27.02 | levi | maquis: You're probably missing an include? |
| 19:27.03 | tensai | the linker won't work |
| 19:27.05 | maquis | although, i suppose that it did do that |
| 19:27.09 | maquis | it's just not liking that in the linker |
| 19:27.18 | maquis | tensai: suggestions? |
| 19:27.25 | tensai | gcc -o mySha mySha.o can't tell the difference between a C and a C++ object file |
| 19:27.28 | tensai | use g++ |
| 19:28.04 | maquis | tensai: do you happen to know what i need to apt-get in order to have g++? |
| 19:28.19 | tensai | apt-get install g++ |
| 19:28.33 | tensai | $ dpkg --get-selections |grep g++ |
| 19:28.33 | tensai | g++ install |
| 19:28.33 | tensai | g++-3.3 install |
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| 19:30.33 | maquis | nm... i found it |
| 19:30.42 | maquis | thanks tensai |
| 19:31.01 | tensai | ~boil maquis |
| 19:31.34 | maquis | ~bart tensai |
| 19:31.35 | ibot | ACTION forces tensai to eat her shorts |
| 19:31.51 | tensai | ibot: boil $maquis is <action> drops $maquis in a vat of boiling oil |
| 19:31.52 | ibot | tensai: okay |
| 19:31.55 | tensai | ~boil maquis |
| 19:31.56 | ibot | ACTION drops maquis in a vat of boiling oil |
| 19:32.02 | maquis | tensai: wouldn't that be fry? |
| 19:32.22 | tensai | maquis: fine. go insult yourself |
| 19:33.14 | Jayce^ | mmm, deep fried ______ <-- fill in the blank, most things work :-p |
| 19:33.41 | goozbach | ice cream! |
| 19:34.13 | Jayce^ | snickers |
| 19:34.25 | Jayce^ | doing navajo tacos/scones tomorrow |
| 19:34.36 | goozbach | deep fried snickers |
| 19:34.38 | levi | Mmmm. |
| 19:34.43 | levi | Jayce^: I need to make those again. |
| 19:34.55 | Jayce^ | snickers or tacos? |
| 19:35.15 | levi | Jayce^: My wife's got an excellent dough recipe which we use for Navajo Tacos and Scones. |
| 19:35.20 | tensai | ibot: boil $maquis is <action> boils $maquis in a hot steaming kettle of beezlenut oil |
| 19:35.22 | ibot | ACTION drops $maquis is <action> boils $maquis in a hot steaming kettle of beezlenut oil in a vat of boiling oil |
| 19:35.28 | tensai | ibot: no, boil $maquis is <action> boils $maquis in a hot steaming kettle of beezlenut oil |
| 19:35.29 | ibot | okay, tensai |
| 19:35.31 | Jayce^ | yeah, we're doing them with a few friends tomorrow.. going to be good |
| 19:35.38 | Jayce^ | making up some more honey-butter tonight |
| 19:35.45 | tensai | eek, a popup in firefox! |
| 19:36.04 | graphyx | ~boil |
| 19:36.22 | graphyx | ~boil ralph |
| 19:36.23 | ibot | ACTION boils ralph in a hot steaming kettle of beezlenut oil |
| 19:36.27 | Jayce^ | levi, you ever listen to the "Battleship Potemkin" soundtrack from PSB? |
| 19:36.36 | levi | Jayce^: Nope. |
| 19:37.28 | Jayce^ | should check it out, it's quite good |
| 19:37.46 | Jayce^ | basically, they took a movie from the 1930's, and did a new soundtrack for it |
| 19:38.09 | Jayce^ | actually did a live 'concert' with it playing behind them at trafalga square |
| 19:38.17 | levi | Interesting. |
| 19:39.19 | Jayce^ | http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0015648/ <-- movie |
| 19:42.26 | Jayce^ | http://www.deo2.com/beatz/default.asp?id=4577 <-- there's a description |
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| 19:50.22 | vontrapp | cool, my brother is making a foundry |
| 19:50.37 | findlay | founding a foundry? |
| 19:50.54 | Jayce^ | what type of stuff does he make? |
| 19:50.56 | vontrapp | sure, you could call it that |
| 19:51.26 | vontrapp | well, he made these cool wooden pianos of the jon schmidt logo |
| 19:51.51 | vontrapp | and a monstrous potato gun |
| 19:52.24 | vontrapp | he's got plans for a bicycle, which he may be using the foundry for |
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| 20:06.48 | vontrapp | so, in rails, you have http://.../<controller>/<method> |
| 20:07.11 | vontrapp | is there a way to add another /something on there? |
| 20:07.28 | vontrapp | e.g. .../blog/show/<date> |
| 20:07.47 | vontrapp | or .../blog/tagged/<tag> |
| 20:08.50 | elg | routes |
| 20:09.05 | elg | i've never done them, but I know you can get just about as convoluted as you want with them |
| 20:09.06 | vontrapp | ah, ok |
| 20:09.18 | elg | oh, I didn't look closely |
| 20:09.26 | vontrapp | that sounds right |
| 20:09.37 | elg | oh you don't want IDs |
| 20:09.42 | elg | normally /controller/action/id |
| 20:10.19 | vontrapp | so if you give it .../action/<id> then you get params[:id] = <id> back? |
| 20:10.44 | vontrapp | if so then i can use that |
| 20:11.53 | elg | yup |
| 20:12.28 | vontrapp | what if you have action/<a>/<b> ? does b go anywhere special? |
| 20:13.44 | elg | you know what rive me nuts, istes that say "leave me logged in on this computer" but then don't. |
| 20:14.59 | levi | I need to learn how RoR does its URL parsing. I'm not terribly happy with how my Lisp blog software is doing it. |
| 20:15.12 | elg | the typing nazis |
| 20:15.42 | elg | site |
| 20:15.43 | elg | s |
| 20:15.44 | bonez39 | any of you subscribe, i.e., pay to receive LinuxMagazine? any other favorites? |
| 20:16.09 | levi | I occasionally pick one up when they're passing them out at work. |
| 20:16.35 | bonez39 | levi, ah....ok..I know they used to have all the content on their site..but have since battened down the hatches....now gotta pay... |
| 20:16.50 | levi | The recent one included an article by a Linux Networx employee on diskless clusters. And an interesting article on Xen 3.0. |
| 20:17.51 | vontrapp | speaking of logins, how does rails do the session timeouts and such? |
| 20:19.26 | maquis | hmmm |
| 20:19.32 | maquis | it *should* owrk |
| 20:19.44 | maquis | and everything i can see says that it *is* working... except the answer |
| 20:23.12 | graphyx | the answer is 42 |
| 20:23.14 | graphyx | ~42 |
| 20:23.16 | ibot | well, 42 is the answer to life the universe and everything, see also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/the_answer_to_life,_the_universe,_and_everything |
| 20:23.42 | sjansen | yes, but what is the question |
| 20:23.59 | graphyx | How many streets must a man walk down? |
| 20:24.01 | tensai | ~question |
| 20:24.02 | ibot | well, question is "What is nine times six?" |
| 20:24.21 | graphyx | I think you mean seven times six |
| 20:24.34 | sjansen | graphyx: nope |
| 20:24.51 | vontrapp | ? |
| 20:24.56 | sjansen | Although I was pretty sure it was six times nine, not nine time six. |
| 20:25.44 | sjansen | Yup, I was right. |
| 20:25.50 | sjansen | Further proof that: |
| 20:25.52 | sjansen | ~sjansen |
| 20:25.54 | ibot | you are, like, one hoopey frood who really knows where his towel is |
| 20:26.32 | maquis | w00t |
| 20:26.39 | maquis | i figgered it out |
| 20:26.46 | graphyx | Is it on the floor in your bedroom, condition wet? |
| 20:27.28 | levi | maquis: Woo! |
| 20:27.32 | vontrapp | no, it's in the bathroom behind the toilet, condition moldy |
| 20:30.58 | tensai | ibot: no, question is "What is six times nine?" |
| 20:30.59 | ibot | okay, tensai |
| 20:31.20 | sjansen | actually |
| 20:31.54 | sjansen | ibot, no question is <reply> "What do you get if you multiply six by nine." |
| 20:31.56 | ibot | sjansen: okay |
| 20:32.23 | tensai | sorry, try again |
| 20:32.23 | sjansen | ibot, no question is <reply> "What do you get if you multiply six by nine?" |
| 20:32.25 | ibot | sjansen: okay |
| 20:32.29 | tensai | there ya go |
| 20:32.39 | sjansen | ~question |
| 20:32.40 | ibot | "What do you get if you multiply six by nine?" |
| 20:32.50 | tensai | ~answer |
| 20:32.51 | ibot | from memory, answer is 42 |
| 20:33.10 | sjansen | ibot, no question is <reply> What do you get if you multiply six by nine? |
| 20:33.12 | ibot | sjansen: okay |
| 20:33.26 | sjansen | ibot, no answer is <reply> 42 |
| 20:33.27 | ibot | sjansen: okay |
| 20:33.34 | sjansen | ~answer |
| 20:33.35 | ibot | 42 |
| 20:33.44 | sjansen | ~question |
| 20:33.45 | ibot | What do you get if you multiply six by nine? |
| 20:36.09 | tensai | ~question and answer |
| 20:36.10 | ibot | There is a theory which states that if ever anyone discovers exactly what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable. |
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| 21:22.49 | goozbach | wow! just wow! http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,,1575411,00.html |
| 21:27.31 | Jayce^ | he quit work? |
| 21:38.37 | sjansen | We're headed that way in the US too. |
| 21:42.26 | graphyx | Well wish me luck. |
| 21:42.28 | sjansen | http://www.perl.com/2005/09/22/graphics/7peoples.jpg <-- I want a version of that large enough to use as my desktop. |
| 21:42.31 | graphyx | Tomorrow I take the CISSP exam. |
| 21:43.10 | graphyx | Does that make Larry Wall the dictator? |
| 21:44.52 | Jayce^ | *premier* is the term :) |
| 21:47.12 | graphyx | ~perl |
| 21:47.13 | ibot | i guess perl is at http://www.handhelds.org/z/wiki/Perl or at http://www.perl.com, or a knitting stitch, or the Pathologically Eclectic rubbish Lister, or that other "P" language |
| 21:47.29 | Jayce^ | http://www.snopes.com/katrina/photos/debitcard.asp <-- wow |
| 21:47.38 | Jayce^ | being a billing guy, that's a big deal |
| 21:48.53 | graphyx | Yeah.. |
| 21:48.59 | graphyx | Someone wasn't thinking straight... |
| 21:49.33 | graphyx | That site does firefox pop ups as well. |
| 21:49.34 | graphyx | FYI |
| 21:51.07 | tensai | ~praise adblock |
| 21:51.09 | ibot | All hail adblock! |
| 21:51.43 | Jayce^ | safari blocked.. |
| 21:54.14 | sjansen | No popups here. |
| 21:55.10 | tensai | even with adblock turned off I got no popups in FF |
| 21:55.47 | Jayce^ | musta been from the previous site |
| 21:55.59 | mheath | Anyone have any recommendations for a good movie? |
| 21:56.03 | mheath | I think I'm going to go rent one |
| 21:56.18 | tensai | dr strangelove |
| 21:56.25 | jsmith | Strange Brew |
| 21:56.29 | jsmith | Spaceballs |
| 21:56.34 | jsmith | What About Bob? |
| 21:56.42 | mheath | jsmith, meh, seen all those too many times |
| 21:56.53 | mheath | and not really in mood for comedy...well, at least not silly american comedy |
| 21:58.41 | vontrapp | mheath: Oscar |
| 21:59.30 | mheath | vontrapp, Oscar? imdb comes up with like 10 movies with that name |
| 21:59.33 | mheath | What year was it made? |
| 21:59.42 | vontrapp | dunno, but it stars sylvester stallone |
| 22:00.06 | Jayce^ | that's a good one |
| 22:00.08 | Jayce^ | well done |
| 22:00.51 | vontrapp | 1991 |
| 22:01.23 | goozbach | hhgg |
| 22:01.26 | mheath | I think I'm just going to go and look around the movie rental place |
| 22:01.30 | mheath | see if theres anything I like |
| 22:01.37 | sjansen | http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0277434/ <-- Should be required viewing for politicians, voters, reporters, and anyone inclined to offer an opinion. |
| 22:01.47 | jsmith | 12 Angry Men? |
| 22:01.50 | goozbach | resident evil: apocalipse |
| 22:01.57 | goozbach | ohh jsmith good choice |
| 22:02.03 | sjansen | jsmith: We Were Soldiers |
| 22:02.07 | goozbach | it's got piglet in it. |
| 22:02.13 | vontrapp | mad mad mad mad mad world |
| 22:02.31 | Jayce^ | sjansen, another good movie |
| 22:02.39 | Jayce^ | different spectrum though |
| 22:02.46 | jsmith | sjansen: Good one... |
| 22:02.53 | vontrapp | finding nemo |
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| 22:03.55 | sjansen | Okay, Groundhog Day than. |
| 22:04.22 | Jayce^ | Band of Brothers |
| 22:05.01 | goozbach | evil dead |
| 22:05.02 | sjansen | http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0065938/ <-- Kelly's Heroes |
| 22:05.31 | goozbach | anything starring bruce cambell |
| 22:05.35 | jsmith | The Great Race! |
| 22:05.43 | jsmith | (push the button, Max) |
| 22:05.47 | vontrapp | the court jester |
| 22:05.56 | goozbach | cronnicles of riddick/pitch black |
| 22:06.02 | vontrapp | ooh, yeah |
| 22:06.04 | goozbach | dune/children of dune |
| 22:06.06 | sjansen | http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0050212/ <-- The Bridge on the River Kwai |
| 22:06.11 | goozbach | the fith element |
| 22:06.19 | goozbach | thx1138 |
| 22:06.22 | jsmith | Dune! |
| 22:06.26 | jsmith | Definitely Dune! |
| 22:06.31 | goozbach | leon |
| 22:06.44 | goozbach | the last samurai |
| 22:06.51 | goozbach | hero |
| 22:06.53 | goozbach | saved |
| 22:06.55 | sjansen | The older, full Dune version. Not the short old version. Maybe the new Dune. |
| 22:07.04 | vontrapp | man on fire |
| 22:07.07 | goozbach | lost in translation |
| 22:07.15 | goozbach | a beautiful mind |
| 22:07.23 | goozbach | matchstick men |
| 22:07.32 | goozbach | labrynth |
| 22:07.49 | sjansen | Anything with Molly Ringwald |
| 22:07.50 | jsmith | sjansen: The SciFi version... |
| 22:08.32 | goozbach | yeah, the mini-series staring william hurt |
| 22:08.32 | sjansen | Okay, maybe not anything.... |
| 22:08.44 | goozbach | not the old school one starring patrick stewart |
| 22:08.44 | sjansen | Pure Genius |
| 22:08.54 | goozbach | gaticia |
| 22:08.56 | vontrapp | hook |
| 22:09.00 | vontrapp | gataca? |
| 22:09.08 | sjansen | Oops, http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0089886/ <-- Real Genius |
| 22:09.11 | vontrapp | ~lart cdrecord |
| 22:09.12 | Jayce^ | LOTR the full extended versions |
| 22:09.50 | vontrapp | all of them |
| 22:09.53 | vontrapp | :) |
| 22:10.54 | Jayce^ | exactly |
| 22:10.56 | vontrapp | goozbach: did you mean gataca? that's a good one |
| 22:11.18 | Jayce^ | Wizards |
| 22:11.23 | sjansen | http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0098308/ <-- She's Out of Control |
| 22:11.32 | goozbach | gatticia http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0119177/ |
| 22:11.33 | vontrapp | i can tell you NOT to see Merlin |
| 22:11.57 | goozbach | gattaca that is |
| 22:12.00 | Jayce^ | http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0076929 |
| 22:12.18 | goozbach | catch me if you can |
| 22:13.10 | sjansen | http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0108550/ <-- What's Eating Gilbert Grape |
| 22:13.42 | vontrapp | http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0166396/ Waking Ned Divine |
| 22:13.48 | sjansen | two movies I can actually stand Leonardo Dicapprio in |
| 22:14.46 | Jayce^ | kelly's Heros <-- classic |
| 22:17.15 | Jayce^ | oooh ooh... Mystery Men |
| 22:17.31 | sjansen | http://imdb.com/title/tt0098546/ <-- UHF |
| 22:19.40 | Jayce^ | Garafolo? ugh |
| 22:19.50 | Jayce^ | sjansen++ for UHF |
| 22:20.42 | levi | Dark City is cool. The City of Lost Children. And Brazil. |
| 22:21.10 | vontrapp | my drive can write at 24x but if i set the speed to 24 it flounders above 24 just barely and the burn fails, but if i set the speed anything <24 it caps it at 16x |
| 22:21.29 | vontrapp | The Transporter |
| 22:21.36 | jsmith | vontrapp: driveropts=burnfree? |
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| 22:22.13 | levi | Ronin |
| 22:22.26 | xbmodder | ronin the barbarian! |
| 22:22.30 | vontrapp | Legend of the Red Dragon |
| 22:23.03 | spr | Zombie vs. Ninja! |
| 22:23.38 | tensai | Night of the Lepus |
| 22:24.39 | levi | For even weirder but still good sci-fi: Pi, or Donnie Darko. |
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| 22:25.45 | vontrapp | jsmith: why would burnfree help? it's a problem with overrunning the drive speed, not buffer underrun |
| 22:25.52 | levi | Hmm, I don't think mheath is even listening anymore. |
| 22:28.02 | vontrapp | Clue |
| 22:28.07 | RyanE | run lola run |
| 22:28.55 | jsmith | vontrapp: I've seen it help -- I don't know why it does :-) |
| 22:30.27 | vontrapp | wait, driver flags lists BURNFREE, but then later it says BURN-Free is OFF. |
| 22:31.43 | Jayce^ | Clue, excellent |
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| 22:36.12 | goozbach | Tron |
| 22:37.59 | vontrapp | jsmith: do you know how to turn on burnfree in the config file? |
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| 22:42.39 | vontrapp | hmm, burnfree DOES help, but it's still kinda scary |
| 22:43.16 | vontrapp | when it gets towards the end, it will jump to 28-30x then drop off to like 2x, recover and go at ~23 for a little bit, then jump again |
| 23:03.11 | jsmith | vontrapp: Nope. |
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| 23:09.13 | bonez39 | jsmith, fair guess to think you wrote chapter 5? |
| 23:09.22 | bonez39 | I read, not all the way, but about half of it...last night... |
| 23:09.30 | jsmith | bonez39: Uh, yeah -- how did you know it was me? |
| 23:09.35 | bonez39 | gotta get that Asterisk book...loks like a great resourse... |
| 23:09.41 | bonez39 | your ad here.....about it... |
| 23:09.50 | jsmith | :-) |
| 23:10.12 | bonez39 | I need to get my SIP box....for home and then I'll be found at all odd hours....hacking away....setting up my dial plans......downstairs |
| 23:10.55 | bonez39 | So, basically, asterisk looks to those various script files....to determine how it will run....and how to route all the calls...... |
| 23:14.14 | jsmith | Jup. |
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