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| 00:13.40 | hans | ~lart vontrapp |
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| 00:22.50 | SpecialZ | ~lart maquis |
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| 00:52.21 | Supaplex | !lart the ibot |
| 00:52.31 | Supaplex | ~lart the ibot |
| 01:04.38 | RyanE | vi experts: what's the keys to apply the same thing to every line in the file? It was just mentioned a few days ago, and I've forgotten already! |
| 01:07.04 | hans | ggVGd |
| 01:07.06 | hans | to delete |
| 01:07.26 | hans | for example. ggVG is the important bit. gg goes to the beginning, V turns on line-visual mode, and G goes to the end |
| 01:07.37 | hans | you often can do e.g. ggdG |
| 01:07.48 | hans | which will delete from where you are (the beginning) to where you will be (the end) |
| 01:09.12 | RyanE | can you do 'dw' on that? |
| 01:09.28 | RyanE | as soon as I hit 'd', it deletes all lines... |
| 01:12.43 | emcnabb | you want to delete the first word of each line? |
| 01:13.23 | RyanE | well, the first 16 words... |
| 01:13.24 | RyanE | :) |
| 01:13.35 | emcnabb | you could try a macro |
| 01:13.42 | emcnabb | that's what I would do |
| 01:13.57 | RyanE | I'm guessing piping it through an external command would also work. |
| 01:14.04 | RyanE | just have to remember 'cut' commands... |
| 01:14.06 | emcnabb | how many lines? |
| 01:14.10 | RyanE | all of them. |
| 01:14.20 | emcnabb | 10, 100, 1000? |
| 01:14.23 | emcnabb | (just curious) |
| 01:14.25 | RyanE | 200 in this particular file |
| 01:14.32 | RyanE | depends on the file. |
| 01:14.37 | emcnabb | here's what I would do: |
| 01:14.52 | emcnabb | qa <-- go into recording mode, store in buffer 'a' |
| 01:15.02 | emcnabb | then type in the sequence of commands |
| 01:15.10 | emcnabb | 016dw |
| 01:15.17 | emcnabb | <down arrow> |
| 01:15.25 | emcnabb | q <-- stop recording mode |
| 01:15.40 | emcnabb | 200@q <- run the buffer 200 times |
| 01:16.04 | RyanE | 200@q, or 200@a? do you specify the buffer name? |
| 01:16.13 | emcnabb | oh yeah :-) |
| 01:16.32 | RyanE | groovy. I've used vi for years, but have yet to become a master. :) |
| 01:16.51 | emcnabb | I'm no master either; we're in the same boat :-) |
| 01:17.20 | RyanE | emcnabb: worked perfectly... thanks. |
| 01:17.28 | emcnabb | cool |
| 01:23.13 | emcnabb | man, this hotel is loud |
| 01:23.22 | emcnabb | there are a ton of people from N.O. here |
| 01:23.36 | emcnabb | they've made it home, and have forgotten it is a hotel |
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| 03:06.44 | xbmodder_lappy | hey! |
| 03:10.23 | maquis | out of curiosity, what's the farthest we've ever gotten in the alphabet as far as tropical storms/hurricanes/etc |
| 03:10.26 | maquis | ? |
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| 03:15.33 | xbmodder_lappy | hmmm |
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| 03:46.31 | maquis | levi: perfect timing! |
| 03:46.39 | levi | maquis: Hi. :) |
| 03:46.55 | levi | I just got back from my lame OS class. |
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| 03:48.43 | levi | Yeah, I would too, though I don't know if I'd have time for it. |
| 03:52.20 | mheath | OS class? What is being discussed? |
| 03:53.23 | maquis | mheath: you have a high school computer science class |
| 03:54.15 | mheath | ....Yes? |
| 03:54.19 | mheath | And? |
| 03:56.00 | levi | mheath: Right now, nothing is being discussed aside from trying to decide what we're actually going to do in the class. |
| 03:56.57 | mheath | maquis, they call it "computer science", but its basic java programming. |
| 03:57.14 | maquis | mheath: that's better than what i got in high school |
| 03:57.25 | maquis | my senior year, they started a computer clsas -- vb |
| 03:57.39 | maquis | and i know people who didn't ever get anything like that in high school |
| 03:58.02 | mheath | maquis, its worse than what they used to have at my highschool |
| 03:58.07 | mheath | they used to have C programming |
| 03:59.26 | levi | mheath: What kind of computer science do you expect them to be teaching in high school? |
| 04:00.30 | mheath | levi, maybe basic computer science concepts? |
| 04:01.06 | mheath | Theres a lot of people in my class who have done a ton of binary to decimal and decimal to binary conversions for assignments, but don't even know what binary is used for, for example. |
| 04:02.28 | levi | mheath: Well, I haven't seen the curriculum, so I'll take your word for it that it's non-optimal. |
| 04:03.25 | tensai | my high school CS class wasn't all that informative either, but it intrigued me to learn more. in that sense, it was still worth it. |
| 04:04.15 | tensai | we were programming in quick basic. luckily I had a pascal compiler at home that made .COM files. They were so awesome. |
| 04:05.42 | tensai | if every intro to CS class started with recursion, Big O and hexadecimal math, that might put off a lot of people |
| 04:06.43 | levi | "basic computer science concepts" is a hard topic to nail down into a high school level class. |
| 04:07.53 | levi | There are so many different ideas of what 'computer science' is. And the more traditional (and correct, IMHO) definitions are hardest to work into a high school class. |
| 04:16.13 | mheath | maquis, yeah. VB seems like a waste of time...you never accomplish much with it |
| 04:16.26 | mheath | its not possible to accomplish much with it until you get into the really advanced stuff |
| 04:16.46 | maquis | mheath: the one nice thing is that they had it set up with lego mindstorms which made things a bit more physical... |
| 04:17.05 | mheath | maquis, same with our class |
| 04:17.09 | maquis | and i guess... some people were really interested in the fact that you could have graphical apps |
| 04:17.19 | mheath | Only we have to use "Not Quite C" |
| 04:17.36 | maquis | those are the only things i could think of for advantages of VB for a high-school class |
| 04:17.45 | mheath | (Which is C minus the parts that make C....C =P) |
| 04:18.15 | mheath | And everyone in my class has been brainwashed into simple basic java usage, I'm the only one who could figure out NQC to program the mindstorms |
| 04:20.58 | maquis | :) |
| 04:21.07 | maquis | our teacher wanted to teach C |
| 04:21.13 | maquis | or at least c++ |
| 04:21.17 | maquis | but the school said no |
| 04:21.26 | maquis | they told her she had to teach VB |
| 04:28.18 | levi | maquis: That's weird, considering the AP tests are either C++ or Java. Can't remember which. |
| 04:28.28 | levi | maquis: They must be in bed with Microsoft. |
| 04:31.21 | maquis | levi: given that bill and paul gave our school 11M/year |
| 04:31.33 | maquis | and both were alumni from our high school.... |
| 04:31.44 | levi | Heh. Well, that makes sense. |
| 04:32.33 | levi | Visual Basic is an ever-changing beast, and MS has let some of their theory wonks play with it these days, so it's getting some pretty advanced features. |
| 04:33.09 | levi | I'll bet a really advanced kid could really blow his teacher's mind with it. ;) |
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| 05:12.35 | linuxalien | Hello fellow geeksters |
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| 05:26.40 | SpecialK | ~lart maquis |
| 05:27.14 | maquis | ~moo SpecialK |
| 05:27.15 | ibot | ACTION moos at SpecialK |
| 05:45.07 | xbmodder | The Maquis were the dominantly rural guerrilla bands of French Resistance. You French? |
| 05:47.48 | maquis | xbmodder: you're correct about who the maquis were, but no, i'm not french |
| 05:49.40 | xbmodder | :-( |
| 05:49.45 | xbmodder | maquis, do you have an orkut? |
| 05:50.46 | maquis | xbmodder: i used to... but i never used it... so i'm assuming not |
| 06:03.11 | xbmodder_lappy | does anybody else find google's wifi service -- creepy? |
| 06:03.36 | linuxalien | I haven't checked it out. I'll go look and see what's creepy about it. |
| 06:04.32 | maquis | pluggers: where did this babysitter tax discussion grow out of? |
| 06:05.24 | linuxalien | I can't find any info on Google WiFi. Time to check slashdot |
| 06:05.52 | levi | maquis: The usual political wackos going off on their favorite tangent. |
| 06:06.56 | levi | maquis: The mp3 player thread spawned evil children threads. |
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| 06:10.46 | xbmodder_lappy | http://tinyurl.com/999ah |
| 06:10.53 | xbmodder_lappy | windows only though@! |
| 06:11.01 | xbmodder_lappy | levi, which one? |
| 06:11.24 | levi | Which one of what? |
| 06:11.58 | levi | Gah, too much homework. |
| 06:17.18 | levi | I have a ton of writing to do by Wednesday. |
| 06:17.41 | levi | I have more writing to do than programming this term. :/ |
| 06:20.03 | levi | My cat is annoyed that I am awake and not paying attention to him. |
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| 14:16.14 | maquis | byronc: do you want Jeff Waugh (ubuntu dev) to come speak in utah? |
| 14:16.27 | maquis | because if you do, you better sign up |
| 14:17.15 | byronc | maquis: I'm waiting for you to try to get BYU approval for him to speak :) |
| 14:17.29 | byronc | or is that not required now that the UUG is a CS department club? |
| 14:17.48 | maquis | byronc: i don't think it's currently required |
| 14:18.08 | maquis | i'll check |
| 14:18.12 | maquis | but in the meantime, sign up |
| 14:18.24 | maquis | we need to get lots of signups |
| 14:21.23 | graphyx | Anyone going to the JSB reopening? |
| 14:21.54 | hans | man that was lame. I was stressed about this homework that's due today last night, and frantically did the wrong assigment, and had to also do today's assignment. |
| 14:21.57 | maquis | graphyx: jfsb |
| 14:22.00 | maquis | jsb is still open |
| 14:22.11 | graphyx | Or did I get my building wrong. |
| 14:22.12 | maquis | assuming you're talking about byu |
| 14:22.30 | maquis | hans: sucky |
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| 14:37.51 | Uncle_Jesse | hola |
| 14:38.34 | Uncle_Jesse | anyone here know someone that works at backcountrystore.com? |
| 14:39.30 | Uncle_Jesse | quiet today... |
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| 14:50.19 | vontrapp | ~lart synergy |
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| 15:04.02 | hans | what you do not smell is phinux |
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| 15:17.09 | Uncle_Jesse | Anyone here know someone that works at backcountrystore.com (up in Park City)? |
| 15:17.20 | Uncle_Jesse | I need the inside scoop on working there |
| 15:18.18 | Uncle_Jesse | Jayce^: do you have Greg Hill (from IDI)'s contact info by chance? |
| 15:18.25 | Jayce^ | nope |
| 15:18.34 | Jayce^ | just the one in the email he sent to plug |
| 15:19.01 | Uncle_Jesse | when was that? |
| 15:19.15 | Jayce^ | he's sent a few, one just this morning/last night |
| 15:19.36 | Uncle_Jesse | guess I wasn't paying attention to names - I'll shoot him an e-mail. I hear he just quit there. |
| 15:19.57 | Uncle_Jesse | They want to fly me up there this weekend to meet in person |
| 15:20.14 | Uncle_Jesse | Park City would be a cool place to work |
| 15:21.18 | goozbach | ok, no more zombie movies just before bed... |
| 15:21.34 | goozbach | I woke up like four times last night wondering where my shotgun was |
| 15:22.27 | emcnabb | the zombies have it |
| 15:23.44 | sjansen | ~chase goozbach |
| 15:23.46 | ibot | ACTION chases goozbach |
| 15:25.50 | Uncle_Jesse | Are there any good places to live around Park City? |
| 15:26.05 | Uncle_Jesse | (<$300K houses) |
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| 15:26.40 | Uncle_Jesse | ~haunt goozbach |
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| 15:29.16 | sjansen | ~shotgun goozbach |
| 15:29.17 | goozbach | it wasn't really a nightmare... 'cause I was really kicking some zombie butt. |
| 15:29.23 | goozbach | thanks |
| 15:29.41 | goozbach | ...this is my BOOMstick |
| 15:30.23 | Uncle_Jesse | the PLUG sig needs an extra \n before it |
| 15:30.42 | Uncle_Jesse | goozbach: you sure you weren't just dreaming of a video game? |
| 15:30.45 | goozbach | on a related topic... as far as zombie flicks go, Resident Evil: Apocylipse isn't too bad |
| 15:31.59 | goozbach | Uncle_Jesse: nope, cause when I'm dreaming about video games I use my crowbar and am fighting headcrabs and antlions |
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| 15:35.28 | emcnabb | goozbach, interesting |
| 15:35.51 | Uncle_Jesse | goozbach: tell us more about your dreams - maybe it means something |
| 15:36.03 | Uncle_Jesse | ~dream |
| 15:36.05 | ibot | ACTION rolls over and envisions being hosted on the MCR cluster in LLNL with a load of 1 |
| 15:39.23 | sjansen | http://mako.cc/copyrighteous/reflections/20050914-00.html <-- Love the title |
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| 15:42.34 | graphyx | Hey is there an easy way to get the BYU devotional to show up on linux? |
| 15:47.19 | xbmodder_ | what format is it in? |
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| 15:47.58 | graphyx | .asx (video) |
| 15:48.17 | graphyx | Or .mov, .asx,. pls, .ram for audio. |
| 15:48.22 | graphyx | video is prefered. |
| 15:48.51 | goozbach | every time I think about becoming a vegitarian... I eat bacon and remember why I'm not |
| 15:49.22 | Uncle_Jesse | bacon makes me sick - I think I'm allergic to it |
| 15:49.38 | levi | Uncle_Jesse: That's unfortunate! |
| 15:50.51 | Uncle_Jesse | I think it's pork in general, but I love BBQ Pork Ribs |
| 15:51.01 | Uncle_Jesse | just can't eat too much |
| 15:51.28 | levi | That is also unfortunate! |
| 15:51.36 | Uncle_Jesse | agreed on that one |
| 15:51.44 | Uncle_Jesse | I can handle not eating bacon |
| 15:51.55 | levi | graphyx: If mplayer doesn't play it, you're probably out of luck. |
| 15:52.03 | Uncle_Jesse | now if I was allergic to briskett I'd be a poor, poor man |
| 15:52.09 | goozbach | just remember... never fry bacon in the nude |
| 15:52.13 | graphyx | thanks levi |
| 15:52.24 | goozbach | or do, that way you'll learn not to burn it |
| 15:52.36 | goozbach | the bacon that is |
| 15:53.18 | levi | You can burn yourself without burning the bacon pretty easily. Mmm, spattering grease. |
| 15:53.32 | Uncle_Jesse | I like burnt bacon more than non-burnt |
| 15:54.55 | Uncle_Jesse | I like it crunchy |
| 15:57.01 | graphyx | anyone know how to use command line mplayer to connect to a stream? |
| 15:57.16 | synic | mplayer http://url/to/stream |
| 15:57.25 | graphyx | That's simple enough.. |
| 15:57.29 | synic | yeah :) |
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| 16:00.15 | vontrapp | ~lart php |
| 16:00.19 | vontrapp | ~impale php |
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| 16:00.22 | vontrapp | ~squish php |
| 16:00.24 | ibot | ACTION squishes php like a bug |
| 16:00.24 | vontrapp | ~fry php |
| 16:00.26 | ibot | ACTION grabs php and fries him on his BFCooker9000 |
| 16:00.30 | vontrapp | ~attack php |
| 16:00.31 | ibot | ACTION grabs a pen, screams like she's possessed, and begins chasing php |
| 16:00.44 | vontrapp | argggghhh |
| 16:01.05 | goozbach | vontrapp: php troubles? |
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| 16:02.08 | vontrapp | php + utilities |
| 16:02.12 | vontrapp | ugghh |
| 16:02.24 | goozbach | php |
| 16:02.30 | goozbach | er |
| 16:02.37 | goozbach | php + anything |
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| 16:10.36 | graphyx | I didn't realize ibot was female... |
| 16:10.40 | graphyx | ~marry ibot |
| 16:10.54 | graphyx | Just wondering if that was implemented... |
| 16:11.24 | graphyx | quick someone start talking before everyone noticed that I tried to ~marry ibot |
| 16:11.29 | graphyx | <-< |
| 16:11.31 | graphyx | >_> |
| 16:11.38 | graphyx | anyone watching.. |
| 16:11.56 | levi | Heh, a cool music video... with computer-animated penguins! http://72.1.140.201/downloads/free/So_Says_I_-_Hi_Res248.mov |
| 16:12.05 | Jayce^ | dont' worry, it's recorded and indexed on google by now |
| 16:12.40 | goozbach | and it's just been bash.org'ed |
| 16:13.35 | vontrapp | and emailed to your grandma |
| 16:15.12 | Jayce^ | wow, that's.. odd.. |
| 16:16.07 | tensai | meh, bash.org. they're just interested in perverts and incest |
| 16:16.34 | levi | Jayce^: There's this one, that's origami cows: http://72.1.140.201/downloads/free/Pink_Bullets_(Lo_Res)304.mov |
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| 16:22.26 | Newsome | that's rather disturbing |
| 16:22.48 | levi | Which is disturbing? |
| 16:23.03 | Newsome | the cows |
| 16:23.18 | Newsome | just starting the penguins one |
| 16:25.04 | levi | The Shins are one of my favorite bands. |
| 16:25.38 | Newsome | okay, both are very odd |
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| 16:26.29 | levi | Odd is good. |
| 16:38.37 | TimRiker | ~gender |
| 16:38.38 | ibot | I'm male |
| 16:38.48 | TimRiker | ~gender |
| 16:38.50 | ibot | I'm lesbian |
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| 16:42.57 | tensai | levi: that rocks, both the music and the videos. must have taken a long time to animate that cow. |
| 16:43.55 | sjansen | One nice thing about a long compile/render process: it give plenty of time to mess around on the Net. |
| 16:44.05 | levi | tensai: I highly recommend the Shins' album, Chutes Too Narrow. Good stuff. |
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| 16:44.27 | levi | tensai: There are a few more videos on their site, too. |
| 16:47.57 | sjansen | vontrapp: I feel your pain. |
| 16:48.42 | sjansen | Well, I don't really feel your pain. I'm working with Ruby right now, so I'm actually enjoying myself. But I've used PHP and felt your pain. |
| 16:49.10 | sjansen | In fact, now that I think about it, you're just making my morning better. Not only am I using Ruby, I'm not using PHP. |
| 16:49.32 | sjansen | dead: Sorry, I guess I don't feel you pain. I feel smug and superior. |
| 16:50.12 | levi | I'm glad Ruby is becoming so popular. Perhaps it will open people to the idea of using Smalltalk. |
| 16:50.25 | dead | as of this day i am resolved not to stay with this job much longer |
| 16:59.09 | RyanE | I need to learn Ruby to get that PHP taste out of my head. |
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| 17:13.46 | levi | Interesting paper on the essence of Computer Science: http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/kraatika/Papers/IssuesInEssenceOfComputerScience.pdf |
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| 18:21.47 | emcnabb | Well, I just lost one of my students. He works for the federal court system here in Houston, and they've been put on alert, so he needs to go prepare for the storm. |
| 18:45.07 | maquis | emcnabb: wow |
| 18:48.16 | emcnabb | another student just got a phone call from his boss; he needs to help sandbag on Friday |
| 18:48.19 | emcnabb | that would stink |
| 18:49.16 | maquis | yeah |
| 18:49.21 | maquis | emcnabb: when you leaving down there? |
| 18:49.44 | maquis | you might end up with a pretty turbulent flight out |
| 18:50.32 | emcnabb | it won't be bad |
| 18:50.38 | emcnabb | I'm leaving Thursday night |
| 18:51.08 | maquis | :) |
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| 19:00.01 | Uncle_Jesse | emcnabb: as long as you're in the Northern end of Houston you'll be okay |
| 19:00.02 | hans | ~wind emcnabb |
| 19:00.33 | Uncle_Jesse | emcnabb: while you're there be sure to try out Taste of Texas - they have a $1000 guarantee on their steaks |
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| 19:06.49 | emcnabb | Uncle_Jesse, what part of town is it in? |
| 19:08.30 | Uncle_Jesse | emcnabb: around the Katy area in Northwest Harris County |
| 19:08.55 | Uncle_Jesse | http://www.tasteoftexas.com/ |
| 19:22.53 | maquis | last i checked, though, i have to get one of my roommates engaged if i want to get some |
| 19:24.49 | levi | Whew. It took me a moment to realize that by 'get some' you meant some steak. My reading comprehension is waaaaay down today. |
| 19:27.12 | maquis | levi: ummmmm..... |
| 19:28.00 | levi | maquis: Well, obviously I didn't suspect anything too unseemly from you, it just took a moment to figure out what you really meant. |
| 19:29.07 | maquis | levi: glad to hear that part... |
| 19:29.23 | levi | maquis: My first thought (after discarding unseemly colloquial usage of 'get some') was ice cream, since roommates tend to have traditions like that surrounding engagement. |
| 19:29.51 | levi | maquis: Only then did I actually re-read and notice you'd specifically mentioned steak. |
| 19:29.56 | levi | And then it was all clear! |
| 19:30.40 | maquis | :) |
| 19:31.06 | Uncle_Jesse | maquis: are your roommates good-looking? I need to hook my brother up with someone. He just broke up with his girlfriend. |
| 19:31.28 | maquis | Uncle_Jesse: they're pretty good-looking... |
| 19:31.33 | maquis | not at all geeky.... |
| 19:32.02 | Uncle_Jesse | maquis: If I give you his phone number can you all call him and ask him out? I'm sure he'll love me for it. :-) |
| 19:32.31 | sjansen | heh |
| 19:32.36 | Uncle_Jesse | He's pretty good looking |
| 19:32.46 | Uncle_Jesse | tall, too |
| 19:32.53 | dataw0lf | then he shouldn't have a problem doing it himself, no? |
| 19:32.55 | Uncle_Jesse | dirty-blonde curly hair |
| 19:33.09 | Uncle_Jesse | dataw0lf: yeah, but this will be fun for me if anything |
| 19:33.09 | maquis | Uncle_Jesse: i don't think that's how it works |
| 19:33.15 | dataw0lf | neither do I. |
| 19:33.30 | dataw0lf | and I doubt if any woman is going to dig that. |
| 19:33.52 | dataw0lf | I like how he got straight to the point though. |
| 19:33.56 | dataw0lf | 'ARE THEY HAWT?!' |
| 19:34.12 | Uncle_Jesse | I just want my brother to get married |
| 19:34.19 | Uncle_Jesse | my other brothers and sisters are taking too long |
| 19:34.22 | Tene | Hey, question... |
| 19:34.26 | Tene | rss files should be plaintext, right? |
| 19:34.32 | Uncle_Jesse | I have hope for this one |
| 19:35.04 | sjansen | Wow, I'm starting to believe Uncle_Jesse is serious. |
| 19:35.16 | dataw0lf | so you're going to push him into a marriage for your own benefit. |
| 19:35.34 | Uncle_Jesse | dataw0lf: of course |
| 19:35.51 | Uncle_Jesse | nieces |
| 19:36.03 | Uncle_Jesse | and a sister-in-law I can make fun of him with |
| 19:36.06 | dataw0lf | I've noticed that alot of Utahns get married quickly and early. Culture shock. |
| 19:36.12 | graphyx | I thought that it was for maquis benefit... she is the one that wanted steak... |
| 19:36.26 | Uncle_Jesse | dataw0lf: it's in our blood, although it's not true with my brothers and sisters |
| 19:36.34 | dataw0lf | I guess. |
| 19:36.39 | dataw0lf | I'll continue to take my time. |
| 19:36.54 | Uncle_Jesse | we figure we can't have multiple wives so may as well get married to one as soon as possible (jk) |
| 19:37.35 | Uncle_Jesse | actually, I hear it's the water there - be careful not to drink it |
| 19:38.05 | dataw0lf | Could be the celibacy issue. Of course, I'm not fettered by such things. |
| 19:38.07 | maquis | dataw0lf: it's not as much utahns from what i can tell |
| 19:38.16 | maquis | it appears to be mormons in general |
| 19:38.19 | Uncle_Jesse | dataw0lf: no, it's the water |
| 19:38.29 | dataw0lf | maquis: Yeah. I just didn't want to be attacked for religious persection or something. |
| 19:39.01 | dataw0lf | how old are you? |
| 19:39.29 | jsmith | Uncle_Jesse: Definitely the water. |
| 19:39.58 | dataw0lf | people get married early religion or not. |
| 19:40.11 | dataw0lf | But I've _never_ seen so many people get married so quickly or so young before. |
| 19:40.49 | Uncle_Jesse | It's all that green kool-aid and jello |
| 19:41.38 | maquis | dataw0lf: 21 |
| 19:41.42 | Uncle_Jesse | I left Houston chasing a girl up to Utah just so I could get married early |
| 19:41.46 | dataw0lf | maquis: *boggle* |
| 19:41.48 | Uncle_Jesse | :-) |
| 19:41.58 | maquis | dataw0lf: yup |
| 19:42.03 | dataw0lf | Wow. |
| 19:42.10 | maquis | a ton of girls getting married at 20 over in washington |
| 19:42.17 | maquis | all at once, too |
| 19:42.18 | dataw0lf | I was engaged for a couple years. |
| 19:42.19 | maquis | it was kinda weird |
| 19:42.22 | dataw0lf | That fell through though. |
| 19:42.39 | maquis | engaged for a couple years? |
| 19:42.50 | dataw0lf | Yeah. |
| 19:43.10 | maquis | man... there's got to be a middle ground here between the people who get engaged for a couple years and the people who get engaged for a couple days |
| 19:43.10 | Uncle_Jesse | I think if I were engaged to my wife for a couple years it would have fell through too |
| 19:43.25 | dataw0lf | it had nothing to do with the long engagement, ass. |
| 19:43.28 | dataw0lf | but thanks. |
| 19:43.41 | Uncle_Jesse | :-) |
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| 19:44.39 | maquis | ~language dataw0lf |
| 19:44.40 | ibot | ACTION grabs dataw0lf by the ear and washes dataw0lf's mouth out with soap |
| 19:45.04 | maquis | dataw0lf: it's just a warning... |
| 19:46.10 | dataw0lf | Heh. |
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| 19:47.14 | maquis | dataw0lf: not trying to be too strong here... |
| 19:47.23 | maquis | just giving a quick reminder |
| 19:47.44 | levi | Hmm. I use that particular word all the time. I thought it was the four-letter ones we had to watch out for! ;) |
| 19:48.04 | Uncle_Jesse | ~scold levi |
| 19:48.35 | Tene | Do you have a *problem* with four-letter words? |
| 19:48.44 | dataw0lf | I thought Uncle_Jesse's comment was just as, if not more, offensive, but whatever. |
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| 19:49.35 | findlay | what's going on if my network bandwidth is going, yet I'm not showing any connections to remote hosts with netstat? |
| 19:49.37 | JoshH | josh is a real four letter word |
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| 19:49.52 | maquis | dataw0lf: sorry if i was too quick about that... |
| 19:50.37 | maquis | (which is why i generally don't wander outside of #utah |
| 19:50.38 | maquis | ) |
| 19:50.39 | JoshH | maquis: he didnt mean to be such a donkeyhole |
| 19:51.12 | findlay | anybody know? |
| 19:51.14 | JoshH | its funny to hear utah people say words like "frick" and "shiz" |
| 19:51.50 | sjansen | findlay: anybody know what? |
| 19:51.50 | Uncle_Jesse | dataw0lf: sorry - wasn't meaning to offend |
| 19:52.04 | findlay | sjansen: see my first question |
| 19:53.12 | Tene | findlay: I remember something like 'ntop'... |
| 19:53.20 | sjansen | findlay: what do you mean by "my network bandwidth is going" and why do you exted to see "connections to remote hosts with netstat"? |
| 19:53.20 | Tene | for showing network usage |
| 19:53.44 | sjansen | s/exted/expect/ |
| 19:54.20 | findlay | sjansen: something is using the eth0 device, but there are no network connections to other computers |
| 19:54.43 | Tene | findlay: *none*? |
| 19:54.50 | Tene | 'cause, like, you're using IRC... |
| 19:54.54 | findlay | none, my lord |
| 19:55.02 | findlay | aside from IRC |
| 19:55.05 | Tene | try 'netstat -a' |
| 19:55.06 | Tene | heh |
| 19:55.14 | Tene | well |
| 19:55.19 | Tene | what about incoming? |
| 19:56.09 | sjansen | what netstat command id you use? not all traffic requires and open connection |
| 19:56.11 | findlay | ok, that shows some other hosts |
| 19:56.45 | sjansen | tcpdump -i eth0 |
| 19:57.42 | Uncle_Jesse | ~use findlay's eth0 device |
| 19:59.36 | findlay | ntop is retarded |
| 19:59.45 | findlay | or I am |
| 19:59.54 | sjansen | No, it isn't, but it's overkill for what you want. |
| 20:00.03 | sjansen | Just use tcpdump |
| 20:09.20 | sjansen | heh, read that as jsmith-mrtg at first and was wondering what he was trying to get at |
| 20:15.10 | graphyx | maquis: you have ops? Is it an invisible ops? |
| 20:15.49 | Tene | yep |
| 20:16.43 | sjansen | No one expects the maquis inquisition! |
| 20:18.06 | graphyx | The comft chair!!! |
| 20:18.31 | graphyx | <gasp> The comfy chair... The comfy chair.. THE COMFY CHAIR!! <screams>... |
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| 20:49.33 | hans | you know what amazes me? gnucash does. how did such a terrible blob of code come to be the defacto stsandard for personal finance in linux? |
| 20:50.01 | JoshH | what alternatives are there? |
| 20:50.06 | Jayce^ | lack of decent competition until now |
| 20:55.23 | emcnabb | hans, I've used it for several years without any problems |
| 20:55.33 | emcnabb | as an accounting program, it works pretty well |
| 20:56.11 | emcnabb | it's not a Quicken or MS Money |
| 20:56.14 | emcnabb | clone |
| 20:56.28 | hans | well that's just it. no competition |
| 20:56.31 | hans | that's the funny thing |
| 20:56.38 | hans | I agree, it works well for what it can do |
| 20:56.47 | hans | but it's so impossible to extend, that it doesn't ever grow really |
| 20:56.59 | emcnabb | it's basically a dead project |
| 20:57.11 | hans | it's just slightly amazing to me that nobody's crafted an agile replacement |
| 20:57.50 | hans | i mean, it's not all that complicated, with the possible extension of the gui widgets |
| 20:57.54 | hans | er, exception |
| 20:57.56 | emcnabb | well, I think one factor is that when it comes to finances, people want a program that's tried and true |
| 20:57.58 | hans | maybe it's just boring |
| 20:58.28 | emcnabb | it works, and it's accurate (for me atleast) |
| 20:58.46 | hans | yeah, does just enough |
| 20:59.03 | emcnabb | I do agree though that we need something else |
| 20:59.54 | Jayce^ | kmymoney looks pretty cool, want to look more at it |
| 21:01.17 | sjansen | Do you really want to trust financial information built with something called Guile? |
| 21:01.26 | hans | this computer lab is funny. judging by the signs on the walls, the primary problem they deal with is not food, drink (drink is actually allowed), or pr0n, it's people talking on cell phones |
| 21:01.56 | hans | kmymoney, that is about the biggest turn-off name I have ever heard. |
| 21:02.14 | emcnabb | the name sounds... well... you know |
| 21:03.19 | RyanE | I want one called 'MyMoneyNoSeriouslyItsMY_FREAKING_MONEY!' |
| 21:03.41 | Jayce^ | IWishIHadMoreMoney (the new Mac version) |
| 21:04.02 | hans | IWishIHadMoreiPods |
| 21:04.07 | Bradipo | IWishICouldKeepMyMoney (my version) |
| 21:04.58 | hans | can you believe it, I lost the ebay auction for an iriver at $20 |
| 21:05.35 | Bradipo | It actually ended at $20 and you didn't get it? |
| 21:05.46 | hans | no, I bid $20 and didn't win. :) |
| 21:07.18 | emcnabb | last night I went to the Apple store after dinner and checked out the new Ipod Nano's; until this point, I never had any interest in Ipods (I love my iRiver), but I have to admit, the Nano is pretty sweet |
| 21:07.35 | emcnabb | or iPod |
| 21:07.42 | emcnabb | however you capitalize it |
| 21:08.08 | mrpull- | gaaaahhh... stupid Dell |
| 21:08.20 | mrpull- | their website wont let me place an order |
| 21:08.24 | graphyx | They do look pretty cool. |
| 21:08.34 | graphyx | but I can't seem to find $250 just sitting around. |
| 21:08.48 | graphyx | I just have my my 40 Gig usb2.0 drive that has all my music. |
| 21:09.14 | graphyx | And I am either on my computer at work. or on my computer at home or with my wife that would prefer I didn't listen to music while we are doing other stuff. |
| 21:09.23 | emcnabb | they're so thin, and that little color screen just makes me drool |
| 21:11.38 | hans | you need a bus commute |
| 21:12.03 | emcnabb | or to go running |
| 21:12.04 | Jayce^ | heck, even a car commute.. much nicer than radio |
| 21:12.15 | emcnabb | plug it into your car stereo |
| 21:12.17 | hans | hear about the VWs that have usb built into the radios |
| 21:12.54 | emcnabb | be able to get out of your chair at work, walk to the breakroom, come back, and keep listening the whole time |
| 21:13.17 | sjansen | emcnabb: I would be ever so appreciative if you bought me a nano while you're down there. |
| 21:13.28 | hans | the problem with long-term iPodding like that is it's not good for your ears |
| 21:13.42 | emcnabb | sjansen, I think you're a great guy, but not that great of a guy |
| 21:14.08 | emcnabb | hans, I don't think it's that big of a problem as long as the music is at a reasonable level |
| 21:14.12 | hans | the same perceived volume level with headphones (or earbuds) involves a much greater sound pressure on your eardrums |
| 21:14.36 | graphyx | I have a car MP3 stereo. |
| 21:14.42 | graphyx | and I only have a 2 mile drive each way. |
| 21:14.43 | Jayce^ | it's nice to do it with noise-cancelling headphones too.. |
| 21:15.59 | goozbach | pergrine must be singing again... |
| 21:16.12 | emcnabb | I'm so glad I'm on the road... |
| 21:18.49 | hans | although they recently redesigned their website which I don't like |
| 21:18.59 | hans | now it's "consumer-friendly" instead of cool |
| 21:19.26 | hans | but the info there is invaluable. |
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| 21:25.13 | SpecialZ | ~lart maquis |
| 21:25.29 | xbmodder_ | :( |
| 21:25.38 | xbmodder_ | ~lart Special? |
| 21:25.49 | xbmodder_ | ibot: regexp? |
| 21:25.51 | ibot | it has been said that regexp is [regexp] a regular expression. It is widly used in UN*X for matching strings. or see man pages regex(7) and regex(3) or a common theological proof for the existence of evil, or a subroutine in Njaard (see njaard), or man perlre |
| 21:26.01 | xbmodder_ | :-/ |
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| 22:08.53 | maquis | GRRRR |
| 22:09.36 | jakea | Woof |
| 22:16.50 | maquis | gah |
| 22:17.01 | maquis | fetchmail and postfix both *seem* to be working |
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| 22:17.20 | Hhhhh | they seem to, but are they? ;) |
| 22:17.29 | maquis | well... |
| 22:17.36 | maquis | i can't figure out where they are putting the mail |
| 22:17.40 | maquis | or how to get to it |
| 22:18.09 | maquis | anyone see any problems here (or hints to where the mail is going): |
| 22:18.12 | maquis | Sep 20 16:15:09 localhost fetchmail[5407]: reading message TuxGirl@gmail.com@pop.gmail.com:225 of 295 (4290 octets) |
| 22:18.16 | maquis | Sep 20 16:15:11 localhost postfix/smtpd[5410]: 0178C8E28: client=localhost.localdomain[127.0.0.1] |
| 22:18.20 | maquis | Sep 20 16:15:11 localhost postfix/cleanup[5411]: 0178C8E28: message-id=<477eba8c050919204445ff7ef@mail.gmail.com> |
| 22:18.20 | maquis | Sep 20 16:15:11 localhost fetchmail[5407]: flushed |
| 22:20.21 | sjansen | Have you tried grepping your hard drive to find the messages? |
| 22:21.21 | jakea | I found something that combines two of my favorite things.... star trek and amusement parks |
| 22:21.31 | jakea | http://picardoldman.ytmnd.com/ |
| 22:21.41 | maquis | sjansen: i can try that... |
| 22:21.54 | maquis | it just seems like it'd take forever |
| 22:23.16 | jakea | grep -R "SCO Code" / |
| 22:23.36 | maquis | sjansen: ?? |
| 22:23.39 | Jayce^ | sjansen, you've been doing too much PHP... |
| 22:43.00 | Newsome | ~praise TimRiker |
| 22:43.02 | ibot | All hail TimRiker! |
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| 22:43.19 | bartw | TimRiker: you're famous. |
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| 22:47.14 | decriptor | which distro does everything think is a server oriented distro? Not really looking for why unless someone say avoid this one |
| 22:47.18 | decriptor | ... |
| 22:48.09 | levi | I'm afraid you're not going to get an exact answer to your question, since not everything thinks. |
| 22:48.13 | decriptor | wow its dead in here do I have to insult someone's distro to get things moving |
| 22:48.34 | decriptor | ok good point |
| 22:48.37 | decriptor | everyone think |
| 22:48.43 | maquis | w00t! |
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| 22:49.08 | xbmodder_lappy | hey |
| 22:50.06 | maquis | for those who are curious, if you tell procmail it can't do local delivery, it chokes when you try to make it do local delivery |
| 22:50.09 | levi | decriptor: Not everyone is going to want to think on demand, though. |
| 22:50.43 | levi | maquis: That does make sense. :) |
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| 22:52.13 | maquis | :) |
| 22:52.36 | maquis | hey! |
| 22:52.48 | maquis | i want special employee pricing! |
| 22:53.51 | decriptor | I would have put it on the list but I didn't want to receive 400 emails between now and then :) |
| 22:57.36 | scott | are anti-spam laws federal or state? anyone know about the ones in utah? |
| 23:00.25 | jsmith | scott: The one in Utah is obviously a state statute. There are federal statutes as well (CAN-SPAN being the prime example) |
| 23:02.03 | scott | jsmith, do you know anything about the utah one? I just got spammed by a company located in utah that I'm sure I've never associated with before |
| 23:02.16 | jsmith | scott: Nope. Talk to your attorney. |
| 23:02.30 | jsmith | scott: Most likely, you can't do anything for a single message. |
| 23:02.53 | jsmith | scott: Get your attorney to send a cease and desist(spelling?) letter |
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