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| 00:01.28 | findlay | looks like gmail has finally gone public |
| 00:01.39 | findlay | and I have 100 invites |
| 00:01.41 | findlay | anyone? |
| 00:01.52 | Supaplex | I've had 100 invites for a few weeks now |
| 00:04.09 | xbmodder_lappy | yeah |
| 00:06.08 | xbmodder_lappy | me too |
| 00:11.40 | goozbach | ~dict forebearance |
| 00:11.52 | goozbach | ~spell forebear |
| 00:12.03 | goozbach | ~dict forebear |
| 00:32.28 | sjansen | goozbach: not sure about the spelling, but it means patience basically |
| 00:32.42 | maquis | ~dict forbearance |
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| 00:36.57 | scott | my demo of shapeshifter (http://crackaddict.com/~scott/screen/glasses.png) expired and I'm back to the default aqua look...It's weird because I'd forgotten what it actually feels like to have a real UI with textures and buttons and all |
| 00:37.31 | sjansen | I just solved a ConTeXt problem I've been kicking around for months now. Just have to put the pieces together. |
| 00:37.35 | scott | oh, I guess the screenshot doesn't really show the theme in action with a normal window |
| 00:37.50 | maquis | scott: want to explain further |
| 00:37.51 | maquis | ? |
| 00:38.32 | scott | void (the theme) gets rid of scroll bars, tabs, and buttons etc |
| 00:38.34 | scott | they all look flat |
| 00:39.01 | scott | so for a button you just have the words of the button there |
| 00:39.05 | scott | no graphics showing it's a button |
| 00:39.16 | scott | same with tabs (except they have an underline I believe) |
| 00:39.24 | scott | scrollbars are just a thin black line |
| 00:39.47 | maquis | cool |
| 00:39.48 | sjansen | Boo YAH! |
| 00:39.51 | scott | it's actually cool because you feel like all applications are just a plain text web page |
| 00:39.57 | maquis | ~applaud sjansen |
| 00:40.13 | maquis | ~dance sjansen |
| 00:40.27 | maquis | ~cheer sjansen |
| 00:40.30 | maquis | hmmm.. |
| 00:41.32 | scott | maquis: weren't you debating between thinkpad T and apple laptop before? |
| 00:41.42 | maquis | scott: i bought a thinkpad |
| 00:41.44 | maquis | :) |
| 00:41.56 | scott | just so you know, speed wise, you made a wise choice. my t40 was way faster than this 1.33ghz ibook |
| 00:42.08 | maquis | some people tried to convince me to get an apple... |
| 00:42.08 | maquis | :) |
| 00:42.23 | scott | software wise you got screwed cause quicksilver rocks :) j/k |
| 00:42.30 | maquis | meh |
| 00:42.57 | sjansen | why would anyone run anything other than linux? |
| 00:43.14 | maquis | ~interrogate sjansen |
| 00:43.28 | maquis | is ibot even around? |
| 00:45.58 | hans | sjansen: sleep, wireless, cmd-[wq] |
| 00:46.30 | sjansen | freedom, stabilty, warm fuzzies |
| 00:47.01 | maquis | hans: i've got sleep and wireless |
| 00:47.13 | maquis | i'm not sure what you're referring to for cmd-[wq] |
| 00:47.14 | sjansen | the opportunityt o bend the law every time you watch a DVD |
| 00:47.19 | scott | closes windows is all |
| 00:47.34 | maquis | oh... right |
| 00:47.46 | maquis | ctrl-w closes most windows for me |
| 00:47.53 | maquis | and if not, ctrl-alt-caps works |
| 00:48.29 | maquis | i think a lot of people on macs get confused because they think that closing the last window will quit the program... |
| 00:49.05 | maquis | i know that my mom often has a *ton* of programs running on her mac, simply because she closes all the windows, and doesn't realize that the app is still open |
| 00:49.07 | scott | the thing I like the most about os x is that apps appear to be just a single file and you can easily copy them over and then later delete them without hunting everywhere for their files |
| 00:49.27 | maquis | scott: that is a nice thing |
| 00:50.53 | scott | dashboard is much less useful than I thought it would be |
| 00:51.30 | hans | maquis: so you can close your lid on a moments notice and it sleeps and wakes without disabling any devices (e.g. wireless)? that's better than most laptops with linux |
| 00:51.54 | hans | scott: ah but did you know you can get the dashboard apps onto the desktop? |
| 00:52.00 | hans | expose is really nice too |
| 00:52.19 | scott | do you use the f9 keystroke? I haven't gotten used to it yet |
| 00:52.28 | scott | I'm still alt-tabing around like a loser |
| 00:53.05 | hans | don't use f9 too often. i was going to say that involves mousing which i hate, but I guess you can use the arrow keys |
| 00:53.10 | scott | hans, do you use quicksilver? |
| 00:53.14 | hans | yeah |
| 00:53.18 | hans | all the time |
| 00:53.36 | hans | the apple calc is really nice too |
| 00:53.44 | hans | i use f11 all the time |
| 00:53.47 | scott | I wish it had a stack |
| 00:53.55 | scott | like hp calcs |
| 00:53.59 | hans | you mean a visible stack? |
| 00:54.03 | scott | yeah |
| 00:54.06 | hans | yeah. but it does have a stack |
| 00:54.10 | hans | at least |
| 00:54.12 | scott | hehe, yeah I guess |
| 00:57.34 | scott | hey, maybe you can help me get ssh key authentication working. are you using it? |
| 00:57.51 | scott | ssh-agent and ssh-add don't want to work for me |
| 01:02.49 | scott | maquis: you're right it's easy to forget apps are still open. what I do is remove all the shortcuts from the dock and just use quicksilver to launch them and then whatever's in the doc is running apps |
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| 01:20.36 | hans | yes, I use it |
| 01:20.53 | hans | keychain |
| 01:21.07 | hans | i don't remember anything different about the keychain setup than in linux |
| 01:49.44 | scott | I ran ssh-keygen and made a dsa key, ssh-agent >> .profile, ran ssh-add ~/.ssh/key and pasted ~/.ssh/key.pub into ~/.ssh/authorized_keys on the remote server and ran ssh server.com but it still asks for my password |
| 01:56.14 | sjansen | ssh-agent >> .profile <-- why did you do that? |
| 01:58.01 | scott | when I run ssh-agent it outputted some stuff that looked like it needed to be run |
| 01:58.14 | sjansen | but it changes everytime |
| 01:58.19 | scott | and if I didn't do that then when I did ssh-add it complained it couldn't connect to agent |
| 01:59.19 | scott | how should I do it? |
| 01:59.46 | sjansen | your easiest choice is keychain |
| 02:00.54 | sjansen | I don't know enough about MacOS to tell you the clean way, but you can add the following to your .bashrc and it will work |
| 02:01.05 | sjansen | eval $(ssh-agent) |
| 02:01.18 | scott | I don't like keychain cause it sits in the dock |
| 02:01.48 | sjansen | the problem with what I presented is that it will start a new agent for each terminal |
| 02:02.04 | sjansen | you'll need add intelligence to detect a running agent |
| 02:02.29 | sjansen | and since you're not willing to use keycahing and let it do it for you, I'll let you right your own mini-shell script |
| 02:05.24 | xbmodder_lappy | my friend does not like HHGG :( |
| 02:05.48 | sjansen | then it's time to stop being his friend |
| 02:11.16 | xbmodder_lappy | hehe |
| 02:11.50 | xbmodder_lappy | scott, hey! -- you gotta read the movie |
| 02:13.10 | scott | hans, didn't you use a plugin to xmms that analyzed your music preferences? found anything like that for itunes/osx? |
| 02:27.33 | hans | imms |
| 02:27.37 | hans | no clue about itunes |
| 02:27.48 | hans | I've never been able to really use itunes as it won't play 80% of my music |
| 02:28.29 | hans | scott: not mac's keychain |
| 02:29.22 | hans | http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/keychain/index.xml |
| 02:29.31 | hans | port install keychain |
| 02:29.33 | hans | (probably) |
| 02:30.00 | hans | this in .bashrc |
| 02:30.00 | hans | if [ -r $HOME/.keychain/${HOSTNAME}-sh ]; then |
| 02:30.01 | hans | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:30.01 | hans | fi |
| 02:30.30 | hans | this in .bash_profile |
| 02:30.32 | hans | KEYCHAIN=/opt/local/bin/keychain |
| 02:30.32 | hans | # keychain (only on trusted hosts) |
| 02:30.32 | hans | if [ -n $KEYCHAIN ] && [ -e ~/.keychain/trusted ]; then |
| 02:30.32 | hans | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:30.34 | hans | fi |
| 02:31.00 | hans | (that bit about trusted is my own logic. comes in handy when you use the same config files in many environments, not all of which are trusted.) |
| 02:43.56 | sjansen | If you get the cahnce to see the movie Sahara, do. I hereby rate it "fun". |
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| 03:26.10 | hans | fun? I haven't heard much about it but it sounded like a serious when I did. so it's fun instead? |
| 03:31.51 | maquis | jsmith: problems with your book? |
| 03:48.57 | maquis | argh!!!!! |
| 03:54.18 | levi | I have returned. |
| 03:54.53 | maquis | 4*i + j != 4*j + i |
| 03:55.14 | levi | Woo. I just put Dvorak's 9th Symphony on my iPod and hooked it up to my stereo. :) |
| 03:55.32 | levi | maquis: Indeed. |
| 03:55.50 | maquis | levi: it sure is a hard one to find, though |
| 03:57.26 | levi | maquis: What's hard to find? |
| 03:58.46 | maquis | that bug |
| 03:59.38 | levi | Ahh. Part of the encryption program? |
| 04:04.45 | maquis | yeah |
| 04:07.58 | jsmith | maquis: Yeah, bookstores are so slow to pick it up once it's out... |
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| 04:15.10 | findlay | anybody want to tell me what they think of my really cool bzflag world? |
| 04:20.01 | levi | Hmm. My iPod just crashed. |
| 04:20.09 | maquis | levi: ick |
| 04:20.16 | maquis | reset? |
| 04:21.19 | levi | Yup. Had to look up how. :) |
| 04:21.52 | maquis | that's a good thing |
| 04:22.05 | maquis | just imagine how great it'd be if you had to go look up how to reset our computer if it crashed |
| 04:24.15 | levi | I've had it for many years, and it's only happened a couple of times. |
| 04:24.23 | maquis | :) |
| 04:26.11 | maquis | random question |
| 04:26.47 | maquis | is there a speed difference between scp-ing a large file from one computer to the other, and downloading it over an http connection (with wget)? |
| 04:27.20 | levi | I would imagine it depends on a number of factors. |
| 04:27.40 | maquis | such as? |
| 04:28.50 | levi | On a really slow computer with lots of bandwidth, http would probably be faster. On a fast computer with low bandwidth, they would probably be similar. Unless you were transferring a highly compressible document, and the http connection used gzip transparently. |
| 04:29.05 | xbmodder_lappy | dvorak? |
| 04:29.16 | xbmodder_lappy | whats up with dvorak? |
| 04:29.32 | findlay | nothing, first rate composer |
| 04:29.45 | xbmodder_lappy | keyboard, a group of thosand monkeys in some guys brain, and a composer? |
| 04:30.17 | findlay | maquis: do you have bzflag installed/ |
| 04:30.18 | findlay | ? |
| 04:30.23 | levi | xbmodder_lappy: It's a last name. It's not all that uncommon for several unrelated people to have the same last name. |
| 04:30.36 | maquis | findlay: kinda... i have it installed, but it won't run until i get my graphix card set up or something |
| 04:30.42 | maquis | it just gives an error when i try to run |
| 04:30.50 | TimRiker | findlay: ok, I'll byte. where's the server? |
| 04:30.58 | findlay | maquis: what's your card |
| 04:31.02 | maquis | *cough* |
| 04:31.03 | TimRiker | maquis: GLX not setup then? |
| 04:31.07 | maquis | findlay: ATI |
| 04:31.09 | maquis | TimRiker: yup |
| 04:31.32 | maquis | i'm reformatting shortly (when i get this stupid project done), so i haven't gotten around to working with it |
| 04:31.44 | maquis | findlay: exact card is ATI x300, i think |
| 04:31.44 | TimRiker | I've not fixed an ATI in a while. what does it say in lspci? |
| 04:31.56 | findlay | TimRiker: not sure. For me it shows up as archimedes.adam-ondi-ahman for me but that's my self declared host.domain |
| 04:32.15 | findlay | the real IP addr is 208.187.196.229 |
| 04:32.15 | maquis | TimRiker: 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc: Unknown device 5460 |
| 04:32.27 | TimRiker | findlay: you need a public IP address in order for folks to get to it. |
| 04:32.45 | findlay | yes, it's a public address |
| 04:32.52 | TimRiker | maquis: ouch. kernel does not know device 5460 |
| 04:32.59 | maquis | TimRiker: yeah |
| 04:33.01 | TimRiker | findlay: ip and port then? |
| 04:33.10 | findlay | 208.187.196.229:5154 |
| 04:33.14 | maquis | i'm going to be messing with it once i get a distro i can live with |
| 04:37.03 | TimRiker | killed the server? |
| 04:38.08 | maquis | ??? |
| 04:43.25 | hans | !!! |
| 04:43.36 | maquis | ~lart hans |
| 04:43.42 | levi | ?!?!?! |
| 04:43.49 | levi | (interrobangs!) |
| 04:46.09 | levi | This early?! |
| 04:46.09 | hans | shucks, looks like grant shipley isn't going to give me an old ipod after all :) |
| 04:46.30 | levi | Aww. |
| 04:46.36 | hans | i'm up at 7am daily, the sun comes right in our window right about the time Jonathan wakes up |
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| 04:46.47 | hans | very good for productivity. very bad for staying up late. ;-) |
| 04:52.06 | xbmodder_lappy | cool. |
| 04:52.35 | maquis | hans: jonathon isn't a year, yet, is he? |
| 04:55.30 | xbmodder_lappy | hans, are you a jonathan also? |
| 04:56.31 | levi | hans is a hans. |
| 04:56.33 | xbmodder_lappy | ~seen jsmith |
| 04:56.38 | ibot | jsmith <n=jsmith@216.52.17.235> was last seen on IRC in channel #utah, 48m 40s ago, saying: 'maquis: Yeah, bookstores are so slow to pick it up once it's out...'. |
| 04:56.46 | xbmodder_lappy | levi, I forgot |
| 04:57.00 | levi | I am a levi |
| 04:57.21 | levi | But I suspect you are not really an xbmodder. |
| 04:57.34 | emcnabb_ | oh, he is |
| 04:58.03 | levi | I mean, I supect his name is not 'xbmodder' |
| 04:58.10 | emcnabb | haha, ok |
| 04:58.11 | xbmodder_lappy | levi, hehe. |
| 04:58.45 | levi | I don't question his modding of xbs. |
| 04:59.51 | xbmodder_lappy | you think M$ could chase me down about this nick? |
| 05:00.29 | mheath | ..... |
| 05:00.30 | xbmodder_lappy | anyone here have an extra phone |
| 05:00.32 | xbmodder_lappy | ? |
| 05:00.35 | xbmodder_lappy | cell phone? |
| 05:00.51 | mheath | xbmodder, yes. |
| 05:00.51 | levi | Yes. Several, in fact. |
| 05:00.57 | emcnabb | xbmodder, you better watch out; they're going to get you |
| 05:01.15 | xbmodder_lappy | levi, wanna sell'em? |
| 05:01.35 | mheath | xbmodder, I'll sell you mine. And for only $30 too. |
| 05:03.22 | xbmodder_lappy | mheath, is it a camera phone? |
| 05:03.57 | mheath | xbmodder, you're joking, right? |
| 05:04.08 | xbmodder_lappy | mheath, model and model numba? |
| 05:05.03 | mheath | "* mheath really wants to ship xbmodder an old 1980's carry-on-the-shoulder-with-huge-handset cellphone just to see his reaction." |
| 05:05.16 | mheath | IE, ITS A HUGE, 20 pound BAG you carry on your shoulder |
| 05:05.25 | mheath | and a bulky handset is wired to it |
| 05:05.34 | mheath | It was made in the mid 1980's. |
| 05:05.51 | mheath | It is not a camera phone, I don't know the model, and I really don't care. |
| 05:09.01 | levi | One of my old ones is a camera phone, but I don't recall the model or model number, or where it is. |
| 05:09.18 | levi | It's a clamshell phone, and the outside LCD is busted. |
| 05:09.36 | levi | It's also white and lavender, which I was never terribly fond of. |
| 05:35.53 | findlay_ | what? again?? |
| 05:36.11 | TimRiker | findlay: my connection flakey or your's? ;-) |
| 05:36.24 | findlay | mine is definitely |
| 05:36.25 | TimRiker | looks like it's on your end. |
| 05:36.39 | findlay | budget bandwidth, but they did give me a static ip |
| 05:36.39 | TimRiker | http://rikers.org/gallery/20050909abigail |
| 05:36.56 | findlay | at no extra charge (: |
| 05:37.09 | TimRiker | =) I've got 8, but I pay for em. |
| 05:37.31 | maquis | TimRiker: congrats :) she's adorable :) |
| 05:37.37 | maquis | is that your first? |
| 05:38.06 | TimRiker | well, I think so. ;-) 3rd. henry (6), cameron (3) and now abigail (1 week) |
| 05:38.55 | maquis | cool |
| 05:39.03 | maquis | make sure her brothers are nice to her... :) |
| 05:39.44 | TimRiker | http://rikers.org/gallery/riker/family <- that's the rest. |
| 05:40.17 | TimRiker | =) we got them star wars ships as a new baby present. they're happy as can be. ;-) |
| 05:40.31 | findlay | (: |
| 05:40.48 | maquis | cute! |
| 05:48.09 | xbmodder_lappy | dude thats awesome |
| 05:53.30 | TimRiker | http://rikers.org/hp2100/hp2108a.avi <- my latest hobby. |
| 05:54.42 | findlay | maquis: what distro are you thinking of? |
| 05:55.36 | levi | TimRiker: Sweet, you got it working. I remember looking at your photo gallery of it a while ago. |
| 05:56.22 | findlay | levi are you much of a lug guy? |
| 05:56.56 | findlay | because the UVLUG would *love* to have you present on lisp, or any other topic of your choice |
| 05:57.12 | maquis | findlay: i'm thinking about sticking ubuntu or fedora on osiris temporarily, then playing with a variety of distros on sekhmet til i find one that i really like (or one that i dislike less than the others), then put that one osiris |
| 05:57.13 | findlay | yes, that is an unashamed solicitation (-: |
| 05:57.15 | levi | findlay: Not really. I had a brief and rather unsuccessful stint as the UUG pres. years ago. |
| 05:58.00 | findlay | maquis: lets make our own distro! |
| 05:58.07 | levi | findlay: I have given some thought to presenting on Lisp, but I don't really feel up to it at the moment. |
| 05:58.22 | maquis | findlay: if i had time...... |
| 05:59.07 | xbmodder_lappy | findlay, ? |
| 05:59.11 | findlay | levi: k, probably once one lug gets somebody to present, all the other lugs clamor for the same presenatation (: |
| 05:59.41 | levi | Heh. |
| 06:00.42 | findlay | findlay-maquis linux, the super-uber distro |
| 06:01.06 | maquis | findlay: you write the package-manager |
| 06:01.23 | maquis | i'll copy the rest from some other distro |
| 06:01.50 | xbmodder_lappy | TimRiker, what is that thing? |
| 06:02.19 | xbmodder_lappy | maybe like 100 years old |
| 06:02.20 | xbmodder_lappy | lol |
| 06:02.27 | TimRiker | xbmodder_lappy: heh. it's a vintage 1980 or so HP minicomputer. model hp-2108a |
| 06:02.48 | TimRiker | It's in pieces on the kitchen table next to me at present. |
| 06:03.10 | findlay | maquis: we need some kind of killer app or system tool |
| 06:03.25 | maquis | findlay: not really |
| 06:03.37 | maquis | the only thing that bugs me about existing distros is package management |
| 06:03.50 | findlay | maquis: debian? |
| 06:04.10 | findlay | or portage is nice |
| 06:04.12 | maquis | findlay: no luck... i'm hoping ubuntu'll get along better |
| 06:04.17 | xbmodder_lappy | TimRiker, The real question is does it run linux? |
| 06:04.29 | findlay | ubuntu uses deb packages? |
| 06:04.41 | TimRiker | xbmodder_lappy: never has, never will. it's got all of 64k of ram. |
| 06:05.00 | xbmodder_lappy | TimRiker, why not :( |
| 06:05.12 | TimRiker | no stack, no hardware paging support.. for starters. |
| 06:05.17 | findlay | does xbmodder_lappy run linux? |
| 06:05.41 | TimRiker | 16bit cpu, etc. |
| 06:06.02 | findlay | and it runs mheath's irc client |
| 06:06.17 | TimRiker | mheath: yeah? what is it? I've got an hp-2116a (1970) downstairs, but it's not operational yet. |
| 06:06.21 | mheath | findlay, ? O.o |
| 06:06.42 | mheath | TimRiker, Motorla MEK6800D2 (I'm remembering that model number off the top of my head, not sure if |
| 06:06.46 | mheath | *if it's right) |
| 06:07.00 | findlay | gas guzzlers probably |
| 06:07.04 | mheath | It was a demo board for their 6800 line |
| 06:07.25 | TimRiker | http://retroinformatica.net/ordenadores/mek6800d2 ? |
| 06:07.51 | mheath | TimRiker, yep |
| 06:08.14 | TimRiker | or one in english: http://www.computermuseumgroningen.nl/motorola/mek6800d2.html |
| 06:08.52 | mheath | I hacked on mine a considerable bit, though |
| 06:08.57 | mheath | expanded its features |
| 06:09.35 | TimRiker | more than 1k of ram now? ;-) |
| 06:10.03 | levi | Heh, that second link kills Safari. |
| 06:10.06 | mheath | TimRiker, heh, it had 4K standard |
| 06:10.08 | TimRiker | I used to have a sym-1 board, but I left it in NY and it seems my parents chucked it. |
| 06:10.25 | mheath | TimRiker, I expanded it to a whopping 128K |
| 06:10.36 | xbmodder_lappy | wow |
| 06:10.48 | TimRiker | woot! I thought the 6800 could only address 64k? |
| 06:10.53 | mheath | Had a neat little memory controller system worked out too, as 128K is too much for the 6800 to adress |
| 06:11.22 | mheath | (plus I wanted to leave some room open for the tape drive and parallel interfaces) |
| 06:11.31 | TimRiker | paging interface like on the old apple //e and frinds? |
| 06:11.47 | mheath | TimRiker, no idea, I'm not familiar with the apple //e :D |
| 06:12.00 | TimRiker | well.. banked might be a better description. |
| 06:12.29 | TimRiker | so what do you still do with it? |
| 06:12.47 | mheath | nothing, now |
| 06:14.17 | mheath | I had two people come up to me today and shake my hand and thank me for my "service to the country" |
| 06:14.30 | TimRiker | ? |
| 06:15.37 | mheath | I hate wearing my dress whites in public.....I feel so out of place :P |
| 06:15.37 | TimRiker | ah |
| 06:15.38 | findlay | mheath: do you think you have you done any service? |
| 06:16.13 | mheath | findlay, No. But its a choice between grinning, saying thank you, and shaking their hand back, or launching into a long discussion about why I'm wearing that uniform, and why I'm not US Navy, and leave the person disappointed. |
| 06:18.36 | mheath | I'm going to be regular Navy in 9 months, anyway. |
| 06:20.55 | xbmodder_lappy | when you going to college? |
| 06:43.37 | maquis | quesiton |
| 06:43.42 | maquis | what's the hex value for EOF? |
| 06:43.44 | maquis | is it FF? |
| 06:48.14 | TimRiker | depends on the context. ctrl-d or hex 04 is EOF for a shell. ;-) |
| 06:49.02 | maquis | TimRiker: here's the problem i'm having |
| 06:49.12 | maquis | i'm reading in from a file |
| 06:49.31 | maquis | the file i'm reading from is an encrypted version, and i'm going to decrypt it |
| 06:49.55 | maquis | but... i'm checking for EOF as I read in... |
| 06:50.05 | maquis | and in the file, there are some 0xFF bytes |
| 06:50.20 | maquis | and it's stopping at the first of those, claiming that the file is over, and quitting |
| 06:52.42 | xbmodder_lappy | why can't I see my prism2 card? |
| 06:52.44 | xbmodder_lappy | it won |
| 06:52.52 | xbmodder_lappy | it wont show up in lspci... |
| 06:53.11 | TimRiker | maquis: platform? |
| 06:53.41 | TimRiker | xbmodder_lappy: pccard perhaps? cardctl ident ? |
| 06:55.07 | TimRiker | maquis: better to get the file size and then read that much, no? |
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| 06:55.54 | root | oh crap |
| 06:55.59 | root | this is not root! |
| 06:56.34 | root | BAlappyold root # cardctl ident 1 |
| 06:56.34 | root | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:56.34 | root | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:56.56 | xbmodder_lappy | umm |
| 07:01.25 | xbmodder_lappy | ouch |
| 07:01.29 | xbmodder_lappy | my lap is hurting |
| 07:01.39 | xbmodder_lappy | umm btw: I love you guys |
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| 07:02.59 | xbmodder_lappy | um |
| 07:06.21 | maquis | TimRiker: how do i get the filesize and do it that way? |
| 07:09.22 | root | wlan1 no wireless extensions. |
| 07:09.24 | root | :-/ |
| 07:15.14 | xbmodder_lappy | iwconfig |
| 07:15.17 | xbmodder_lappy | stupid iwconfig |
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| 07:17.20 | levi | maquis: See man fstat |
| 07:17.26 | levi | Time for me to sleep. |
| 07:17.49 | xbmodder_lappy | ah crap |
| 07:24.37 | maquis | feof... |
| 07:24.42 | maquis | that's what i want |
| 07:25.01 | root | lappyold root # iwconfig wlan1 |
| 07:25.01 | root | wlan1 no wireless extensions. |
| 07:25.42 | xbmodder_lappy | why? |
| 07:30.57 | maquis | really |
| 07:32.02 | xbmodder_lappy | I want to slam my head into the wall |
| 07:32.25 | xbmodder_lappy | I can't screw my wireless network up without it working |
| 07:54.18 | xbmodder_lappy | anyone home? |
| 07:54.39 | maquis | home but very busy and tired |
| 07:55.06 | xbmodder_lappy | busy? |
| 07:55.12 | xbmodder_lappy | busydesuka? |
| 07:57.00 | xbmodder_lappy | you know what would be fun? |
| 07:57.05 | xbmodder_lappy | have three monitors? |
| 07:57.32 | xbmodder_lappy | actually 4 |
| 08:00.13 | xbmodder_lappy | time to get bored enough to set this up |
| 08:04.29 | xbmodder_lappy | Dude! Orkut went public! |
| 08:14.44 | xbmodder_lappy | \\\ |
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| 08:36.23 | TimRiker | maquis: http://unixhelp.ed.ac.uk/CGI/man-cgi?fstat |
| 08:37.45 | TimRiker | maquis: ah. but feof() sounds like a Good Idea. |
| 08:59.32 | maquis | TimRiker: yeah... feof worked :) |
| 08:59.41 | maquis | thanks for the suggestion though! |
| 08:59.45 | maquis | i'm just testing now |
| 08:59.56 | maquis | once i'm done testing, i'm sending it in, then crashing for abotu 3.5 hours |
| 09:05.04 | maquis | *yawn* |
| 09:05.12 | maquis | 'night all... |
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| 09:21.30 | TimRiker | nite |
| 09:57.41 | xbmodder_lappy | ? |
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| 17:05.04 | findlay | what's the command that tells me all the remote hosts I'm connected to? |
| 17:13.27 | findlay | is it lsof, or like lsof? |
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| 17:40.29 | Supaplex | netstat |
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| 18:04.47 | findlay | Supaplex: that's it, thanks |
| 18:06.05 | Supaplex | np |
| 18:23.26 | sjansen | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:25.33 | xbmodder_lappy | hey all? |
| 18:28.02 | mheath | Good morning. |
| 18:30.59 | hans | whwy what was last night? |
| 18:31.02 | xbmodder_lappy | sup? |
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| 18:31.52 | mheath | I'm test fitting my dress blues, seeing if I need to get them tailored. |
| 18:32.08 | sjansen | Whoa. "Novell's slander-of-title counterclaim is barred by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution." |
| 18:32.44 | sjansen | You know things aren'g going well for a party when they start invoking the first amendment. |
| 18:34.00 | Newsome | yeah, especially when it's "We can say such things about you because it's our First Amendment Right, but you can't say anything about us." |
| 18:37.20 | findlay | ~end the whole thing |
| 18:39.01 | sjansen | http://researchnews.osu.edu/archive/cowpower.htm <-- Cow Power!! |
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| 20:51.59 | levi | Good afternoon. |
| 20:54.09 | maquis | levi: hi |
| 20:54.37 | levi | maquis: I just talked to Dan. I guess he's in two of your classes, 330 and whatever the security one is. |
| 20:56.17 | maquis | levi: dan who? |
| 20:56.23 | levi | maquis: Hersam |
| 20:56.34 | levi | maquis: Tall guy, short curly blonde hair. |
| 20:56.59 | maquis | hmmm |
| 20:57.12 | levi | maquis: He was under the impression that he'd talked to you. |
| 20:57.19 | maquis | likely |
| 20:57.26 | sjansen | Dan Hersham... I know that name. Could have sworn he was old-school UUG. |
| 20:57.43 | levi | sjansen: Yup. Only on 1 in his last name, though. |
| 20:57.49 | levi | sjansen: Only 1 h. |
| 20:58.38 | maquis | levi: was it something regarding uug that he talked to me about? |
| 20:58.45 | maquis | or something regarding class? |
| 20:58.47 | sjansen | How doest that work out,though? Going back to school? |
| 20:58.47 | maquis | or... |
| 20:58.53 | levi | maquis: Regarding 330 homework. |
| 20:59.05 | maquis | Hmmm... |
| 20:59.13 | levi | sjansen: Yup. He just quit work to hit school hardcore and get it all finished in 2 semesters. |
| 20:59.16 | maquis | I think I might know who it is... |
| 20:59.32 | sjansen | cool |
| 20:59.40 | levi | maquis: Regarding that problem where you both misinterpreted what it was asking for. |
| 20:59.46 | maquis | levi: oh.. right |
| 20:59.47 | maquis | ok |
| 20:59.55 | maquis | levi: how do you know him? |
| 21:00.22 | levi | maquis: We go way back. |
| 21:00.38 | maquis | cool |
| 21:00.57 | levi | maquis: He helped me get my job, we were roommates for a couple of years, and he's in my ward still. |
| 21:01.00 | sjansen | way back |
| 21:01.16 | maquis | ah |
| 21:01.25 | sjansen | As in, ice age just ending, polar ice just starting to receed, back. |
| 21:01.52 | maquis | sjansen: and you would know :) |
| 21:01.58 | sjansen | levi's older than me, and I've got one foot in the grave already |
| 21:02.39 | sjansen | (although I vaguely remember emcnabb helping em put it there one night) |
| 21:02.41 | levi | maquis: He's taking 4 upper-level CS classes plus Linear Algebra this semester. His life is schoolwork. |
| 21:02.58 | maquis | levi: ipes!!!! |
| 21:03.12 | levi | No kidding. |
| 21:04.13 | levi | Well, I gotta concentrate on my homework for a bit. |
| 21:11.13 | maquis | have fun |
| 21:30.37 | emcnabb | off to the airport |
| 21:31.31 | xbmodder | maquis, what course are you taking which you had to work on last night? |
| 21:31.43 | maquis | xbmodder: security |
| 21:32.08 | maquis | i should've been done with that project a long time ago |
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| 21:32.33 | maquis | it wasn't *that* big of a project, but i had the hardest time concentrating last week |
| 21:34.24 | xbmodder | oh, fun |
| 21:34.38 | maquis | security is a fun class |
| 21:34.48 | xbmodder | is the teacher good? |
| 21:35.18 | maquis | he's pretty good... |
| 21:35.29 | maquis | he does research in cryptography |
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| 22:30.46 | hans | sjansen: didn't you have some font that you were claiming is perfection? |
| 22:32.01 | hans | monospace |
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| 23:15.39 | sjansen | hans ProFontWindows |
| 23:21.53 | hans | is that different from profont no suffix? |
| 23:22.48 | sjansen | I believe so. I have not seen this ProFont you speak of. |
| 23:23.46 | sjansen | Looks like searching for ProFont produces theright page. http://www.tobias-jung.de/seekingprofont/ |
| 23:24.23 | sjansen | Get the TTF, not eh for "For Linux/Unix" bitmap version. |
| 23:24.56 | hans | ok, I've already got that. just curious, I thought you mentioned another one |
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| 23:26.13 | sjansen | I also like Courier Dot 15 CPI alot. |
| 23:27.09 | sjansen | http://dradul.tripod.com/font_stuff/Courier_Dot_15_CPI.htm |
| 23:27.38 | sjansen | Although I have a tweaked version of it that makes the 1 and l more distinct. I like it for printing. |
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| 23:59.50 | hans | Janson doesn't look monospaced |
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