| 00:03.10 | Lone_Wanderer | ~ibot |
| 00:03.12 | ibot | extra, extra, read all about it, ibot is a blootbot written in perl run by TimRiker on his server. logs on http://ibot.rikers.org/<chan>/ , ibot, jbot, apt are all the same process. It uses sqlite, but mysql or other SQL storage is also supported. |
| 00:03.21 | maquis | ~maquis |
| 00:03.22 | ibot | i don't give information like that to filthy cardassian spies |
| 00:03.40 | Lone_Wanderer | beautiful |
| 00:05.36 | Tene | ~moon |
| 00:05.42 | ibot | ( * ) |
| 00:05.42 | Tene | ~eart |
| 00:05.44 | Tene | ~earth |
| 00:05.47 | ibot | well, earth is at http://gw.marketingden.com/planets/earth.html, very high-res planetary maps. |
| 00:05.48 | Tene | ~mars |
| 00:05.50 | ibot | Java-based network services status monitor. URL: http://www.altara.org/mars.html |
| 00:05.57 | Tene | ~jupiter |
| 00:06.09 | Tene | ~venus |
| 00:07.57 | scott | anyone else think iPod "nano" is just a bit of an exageration? |
| 00:08.45 | Tene | I do! |
| 00:09.24 | maquis | w00t! i found something edible in the freezer! |
| 00:09.45 | goozbach | bah! |
| 00:09.51 | Tene | Was it a person. |
| 00:10.02 | maquis | Tene: nope! |
| 00:10.08 | Tene | err... s/./?/ |
| 00:10.09 | maquis | goozbach: ?? |
| 00:10.23 | goozbach | I said BAH! |
| 00:10.29 | Tene | maquis: was it alive? |
| 00:10.32 | goozbach | BAH I say!!! |
| 00:10.32 | maquis | goozbach: why? |
| 00:10.35 | maquis | Tene: not yet |
| 00:10.45 | goozbach | cause I'm still bitter about next week |
| 00:11.08 | maquis | goozbach: did you consider trying to switch with someone else? |
| 00:11.18 | maquis | or is that not possible? |
| 00:11.50 | Tene | I'm going to the Streetlight Manifesto concert tomorrow. |
| 00:13.14 | goozbach | bah!!! |
| 00:13.53 | Tene | And it will be great. |
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| 00:16.17 | goozbach | BAHAAHAHHAHAHAHHH |
| 00:17.18 | goozbach | so that new Jessica Alba flick looks good |
| 00:31.51 | xbmodder | hey |
| 00:32.07 | Tene | hey |
| 00:32.49 | goozbach | Heh Heh HEY!!! |
| 00:35.00 | xbmodder | sup? |
| 00:35.09 | Tene | I'm almost done with this stupid, broken, evil PHP project. |
| 00:35.14 | Tene | And I'm all twitchy right now. |
| 00:37.18 | maquis | interesting |
| 00:37.37 | maquis | it doesn't show which machine we're logging in from... just which lab... |
| 00:41.25 | maquis | w00t! |
| 00:41.38 | maquis | the last paycheck from this summer got deposited |
| 00:43.06 | Tene | Yay, no more paychecks! |
| 00:43.42 | maquis | Tene: not quite what i was thinking :) |
| 00:44.33 | Tene | I know. |
| 00:45.07 | maquis | hmmm |
| 00:45.21 | maquis | ctrl - in opera doesn't do what i expected |
| 00:45.28 | Tene | does it kill the user? |
| 00:46.34 | maquis | no... |
| 00:46.44 | maquis | i'll post a pic in a sec |
| 00:49.31 | goozbach | sjansen: you got your ears on? |
| 00:50.25 | maquis | http://students.cs.byu.edu/~sharmahd/tinyNewEgg.jpg |
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| 00:50.59 | maquis | anyone ever managed to do *that*? |
| 00:51.00 | maquis | :) |
| 00:52.13 | maquis | hmmm |
| 00:52.21 | maquis | can't seem to figure out how to undo it.... |
| 00:52.49 | maquis | closing the window and going to the site in a new tab seems to work, though |
| 00:53.59 | goozbach | ctrl + |
| 00:54.03 | goozbach | ctrl - |
| 00:54.13 | goozbach | grow and shrink current tab's text |
| 00:55.13 | maquis | goozbach: that's what i thought |
| 00:55.20 | maquis | unfortunately, ctrl + didn't work |
| 00:55.29 | maquis | and ctrl - works a little bit too well |
| 00:55.46 | goozbach | Serenity comes out on the 30th WOOOT!!! |
| 00:55.56 | maquis | ??? |
| 00:59.42 | goozbach | SVU++ |
| 01:05.20 | goozbach | dilema: do I go down to the bar for dinner, or order room service? |
| 01:11.11 | sjansen | goozbach: I do now |
| 01:12.32 | sjansen | order room service delivered to you in the bar |
| 01:12.38 | goozbach | heh |
| 01:13.08 | goozbach | sjansen: NM just verifing that OGo was now working for someone else |
| 01:13.16 | emcnabb | sjansen, you may enjoy what I just sent to the gurus list |
| 01:13.19 | goozbach | sjansen: wanna go back to pittsburgh |
| 01:13.21 | goozbach | ? |
| 01:13.32 | sjansen | nto really |
| 01:14.02 | sjansen | had it been anywhere else I would have already volunteered to take it for you |
| 01:15.50 | sjansen | although if you can sweet talk bryan and dax I won't fight you |
| 01:17.49 | sjansen | you sure you emailed gurus? I don't see it yet |
| 01:19.29 | emcnabb | sjansen, I got a copy of it |
| 01:20.45 | sjansen | I must not be special enough. |
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| 01:24.42 | goozbach | sjansen: I got it |
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| 01:32.36 | goozbach | hi almost cool |
| 01:32.40 | goozbach | :) |
| 01:35.51 | thx1139 | Heya Sjansen :) |
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| 02:08.02 | thx1139 | questioningly? |
| 02:09.38 | maquis | oh... just saying hi |
| 02:09.49 | maquis | since i don't know who you were, i decided to stare questioningly at you :) |
| 02:10.33 | maquis | ~lame-o-meter thx1139 |
| 02:10.52 | maquis | thx1139: how are you? |
| 02:12.17 | thx1139 | not bad :) |
| 02:12.34 | maquis | :) |
| 02:13.20 | thx1139 | I dropped in to see if Stephen Saunders still hangs out around here? |
| 02:13.31 | maquis | hmmm |
| 02:13.32 | maquis | nick? |
| 02:13.40 | thx1139 | dunno what nick he would go by |
| 02:13.45 | maquis | hmmm |
| 02:13.56 | sjansen | name sounds familiar |
| 02:14.03 | maquis | well... then i guess the best answer is "maybe" |
| 02:14.49 | thx1139 | http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:67Zp3lKKzLUJ:mailman.plug.org/pipermail/pluglist/2004-July/009283.html |
| 02:16.42 | maquis | not bad... |
| 02:17.15 | maquis | are you on plug? |
| 02:18.06 | thx1139 | no, not in Provo |
| 02:19.38 | sjansen | that hasn't stopped others |
| 02:19.49 | thx1139 | :) |
| 02:20.19 | thx1139 | I guess I would somewhat qualify.. I've been a linux user since 96 :) |
| 02:20.29 | Supaplex | heh M$ to kill Google http://xrl.us/hj4t |
| 02:21.03 | JoshH | yo Supaplex |
| 02:45.49 | goozbach | ok so that was a weird guy |
| 02:46.00 | goozbach | I thought he was going to follow me back to my room |
| 02:46.45 | maquis | goozbach: that's scary |
| 02:47.14 | goozbach | yeah |
| 02:48.13 | maquis | was he just following you all the way from dinner? or what? |
| 02:48.54 | goozbach | he got into the elevator with me |
| 02:49.02 | maquis | uh huh... |
| 02:49.10 | maquis | did he talk to you? |
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| 02:50.46 | goozbach | yeah... |
| 02:51.27 | maquis | hmmm |
| 02:54.27 | Supaplex | JoshH: sup |
| 02:54.50 | JoshH | just about to go home |
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| 03:00.36 | levi | Good evening. |
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| 03:10.26 | levi | So, my wife got me HG2G for my birthday. Woo! |
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| 03:24.04 | maquis | levi: ??? |
| 03:24.23 | levi | maquis: The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy DVD. |
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| 03:26.41 | xbmodder_lappy | hey |
| 03:26.46 | xbmodder_lappy | the node of freedom |
| 03:34.20 | hans | ~smack vontrapp |
| 03:34.23 | ibot | ACTION smacks vontrapp upside the head. |
| 03:34.31 | hans | levi: sweet |
| 03:34.33 | hans | happy birthday |
| 03:34.53 | levi | hans: Thanks. :) |
| 03:35.14 | levi | One more year and I'll cross another decade marker. |
| 03:35.46 | hans | 15 months ahead of me |
| 03:36.28 | levi | I'm gettin' old, man! |
| 03:38.36 | hans | hmm. "From a developers point of view, the Gallery 2 framework is particularly interesting because it's written with modern programming patterns (OOP, extreme programming, test driven development, MVC, factories, modularity, ...) in mind which is rather unusual for PHP based projects." |
| 03:38.44 | hans | might be worth another look at gallery. |
| 03:39.02 | hans | all that rewriting and they couldn't pick another language. shame. :) |
| 03:41.36 | hans | or, maybe not. I just went to their home page and the HTML is so terrible I can't even begin to look at the content. not a good start for a web framework |
| 03:41.42 | levi | Heh. |
| 03:42.00 | levi | So busy working buzzwords into their product they didn't have time for the html. |
| 03:42.26 | xbmodder_lappy | cool. |
| 03:42.33 | xbmodder_lappy | hans, are you the reiser guy? |
| 03:42.58 | xbmodder_lappy | or hans fugal |
| 03:43.06 | levi | He is the latter. |
| 03:43.55 | hans | um, yeah. I'm the famous guy |
| 03:46.16 | xbmodder_lappy | cool |
| 03:46.42 | maquis | levi: oh... |
| 03:46.45 | maquis | gotcha |
| 03:48.38 | maquis | actually, > 8.5 years |
| 03:49.41 | maquis | has anyone seen my attention span wandering around? |
| 03:50.00 | maquis | i lost it someplace this weekend... |
| 03:50.21 | maquis | i think i might've left it at the installfest on saturday... |
| 03:52.22 | xbmodder_lappy | really? |
| 03:55.04 | hans | I'm hans fugal. does that make me famous? |
| 03:55.10 | hans | I'm kind of confused |
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| 03:57.37 | xbmodder_lappy | hehe |
| 03:57.38 | xbmodder_lappy | kinda |
| 03:57.43 | xbmodder_lappy | amongst utah -- yes |
| 03:57.53 | xbmodder_lappy | sed s/utah/\#utah/ |
| 04:00.23 | hans | I don't even show up on a google search for "hans" until page 27 |
| 04:02.25 | hans | i do show up on the first page for fugal, though. wasn't always so |
| 04:02.41 | hans | back in the day only treatises about fugues did |
| 04:03.32 | levi | Both my first and last names are shared by large corporations, so I don't get on the front page of a google search until you put them together. |
| 04:04.32 | levi | Wow, I'm not even on the front page for my first and last names together. |
| 04:04.50 | levi | Thanks to a famous civil rights case. :P |
| 04:07.15 | xbmodder_lappy | lol |
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| 04:09.13 | hans | heh. if you search on google groups for "hans" it becomes apparent that one of my namesakes has really ticked off some abortionists |
| 04:15.37 | xbmodder_lappy | lol |
| 04:15.43 | xbmodder_lappy | ouch |
| 04:15.45 | xbmodder_lappy | that sucks |
| 04:16.27 | maquis | hmmm |
| 04:16.34 | maquis | if i have my first and last name, it's just me |
| 04:16.51 | hans | maquis traitor? |
| 04:17.07 | maquis | :) |
| 04:17.33 | maquis | if you go for my last name, you just get a long list of websites created by a computer company owned by some 3rd cousin of my dad |
| 04:17.52 | maquis | (we got into contact with him a while back, and discovered what the relationship was...) |
| 04:18.10 | maquis | pretty much.. .if they have the same last name as us, 99% chance they're related |
| 04:18.16 | maquis | the name's only been around 3-4 generations |
| 04:18.27 | hans | who made it up? |
| 04:18.42 | maquis | hans: my great, great, great grandfather... |
| 04:18.54 | maquis | pretty much, they were put into a situation of "change the name or the family will be exterminated" |
| 04:18.57 | maquis | so they changed it |
| 04:20.16 | hans | what was it? who would exterminate? |
| 04:20.33 | maquis | hans: all i know is that it translated to "the cradle of the king" |
| 04:20.39 | maquis | so, when the king was overthrown..... |
| 04:20.56 | maquis | the shah destroyed any reference to the king |
| 04:21.11 | maquis | and burned all archaeological records dating prior to his own time |
| 04:21.21 | maquis | err... |
| 04:21.25 | maquis | not archaeological... |
| 04:21.28 | maquis | genealogical... |
| 04:21.36 | maquis | replacing one long, complicated word with another |
| 04:22.19 | hans | what nation was this? |
| 04:22.25 | hans | and what's a shah? |
| 04:22.34 | maquis | iran |
| 04:22.43 | hans | you don't look iranian |
| 04:23.05 | maquis | i'm adopted |
| 04:23.10 | maquis | and my dad's only half |
| 04:23.26 | maquis | tis a long story |
| 04:24.00 | hans | with lots of cardassian battles, probably |
| 04:24.07 | maquis | of course :) |
| 04:29.46 | xbmodder_lappy | maquis, < interesting |
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| 04:40.19 | xbmodder_lappy | yay |
| 04:43.49 | Newsome | This is awesome! - http://www.livejournal.com/users/tongodeon/311999.html |
| 04:46.46 | maquis | sweet!!!! |
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| 04:48.58 | SpecialK_ | ~lart maquis |
| 05:04.01 | levi | I couldn't pass up that meat/meet thing. 'Meating' is just such an evocative misspelling. |
| 05:05.09 | levi | I can imagine someone running at me, brandishing a leg of lamb and screaming wildly. |
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| 05:17.24 | xbmodder_lappy | cool |
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| 05:26.08 | vontrapp | ~lart ubuntu |
| 05:26.42 | xbmodder_lappy | sweet |
| 06:01.41 | levi | Heh: http://www.geekculture.com/joyoftech/joyarchives/730.html |
| 06:06.05 | maquis | hahahahahaha |
| 06:06.40 | maquis | that is hilarious |
| 06:07.01 | levi | Lots of good poking fun at Apple stuff there on that site. :) |
| 06:07.16 | maquis | i like the last of those... |
| 06:07.27 | maquis | it is about the right size to stick under a door |
| 06:07.34 | maquis | granted... it's a bit expensive for that..... :) |
| 06:07.43 | maquis | although... |
| 06:07.54 | maquis | if a guy stuck one under my door (particularly one of the black ones).... |
| 06:09.35 | levi | http://www.geekculture.com/joyoftech/joyarchives/723.html |
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| 06:17.19 | xbmodder_lappy | haha |
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| 06:31.56 | levi | http://www.geekculture.com/joyoftech/joyarchives/680.html |
| 06:38.19 | maquis | hahahaha |
| 06:46.04 | levi | http://www.geekculture.com/joyoftech/joyarchives/649.html |
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| 07:19.17 | maquis | hmmm |
| 07:19.30 | JoshH | hmmmmmm |
| 07:22.42 | maquis | this printer is a *pain* |
| 07:22.57 | maquis | it takes at least 10 minutes for me to convince it to print something |
| 07:23.05 | maquis | and then, it'll take the whole stack of paper at once |
| 07:23.10 | maquis | and jam itself |
| 07:23.30 | maquis | at which point, i have to spend another 15 minutes getting it to stop trying to print, and getting the paper out |
| 07:23.42 | maquis | then it'll take me another 20 minutes to tell it to start over |
| 07:24.12 | maquis | on top of that, i can't seem to figure out how to convince it that i can print from my laptop |
| 07:24.43 | maquis | it thinks that i should have to scp files to my server, then ssh in and lpr them |
| 07:26.51 | JoshH | ~lart maquis's printer |
| 07:30.06 | maquis | :) |
| 07:30.08 | maquis | so... |
| 07:30.19 | maquis | i get to review one of my classmates' implementations of AES tonight |
| 07:30.26 | maquis | he did it in perl |
| 07:30.33 | maquis | that seems like an odd language choice to me |
| 07:30.46 | maquis | but i guess it'll be an interesting code review |
| 07:30.49 | maquis | since i don't know perl yet |
| 07:31.39 | maquis | as i'm understanding it, a perl function is: |
| 07:31.51 | maquis | sub subName{ |
| 07:32.11 | maquis | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:32.18 | maquis | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:32.31 | maquis | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:32.32 | maquis | } |
| 07:32.51 | maquis | i'm not sure i fully understand the @_ part, but i'll just trust him on this |
| 07:33.40 | maquis | oh... |
| 07:33.58 | maquis | it's (my param1, my param2) = @_ |
| 07:34.01 | maquis | that's even weirder |
| 07:35.16 | maquis | JoshH: you know perl? |
| 07:38.08 | JoshH | kinda, the @_ is just an array with the parameters passed to the subroutine |
| 07:38.23 | maquis | what's with all the "my"? |
| 07:38.30 | JoshH | my is for lexical variables |
| 07:38.42 | maquis | as opposed to? |
| 07:39.49 | JoshH | global variables |
| 07:39.57 | maquis | ah... |
| 07:40.02 | maquis | gotcha |
| 07:42.31 | JoshH | or "package variables" |
| 07:43.12 | maquis | mmk.... |
| 07:43.36 | JoshH | basically its similar to a private variable in a function in C |
| 07:44.18 | JoshH | "my" variables can only be used within their block |
| 07:44.52 | maquis | ok |
| 07:45.03 | maquis | that makes sense |
| 07:45.13 | JoshH | im sure jayce or vontrapp or some of the other perl geniuses who are here during the day could explain it better, heh |
| 07:45.30 | maquis | although... it seems like it would make more sense to have variables do that by default...and then have a keyword for the ones you want to have global |
| 07:45.46 | maquis | this poor kid had a "my" in front of almost every variable |
| 07:45.52 | JoshH | ya, a lot of people do that |
| 07:45.59 | JoshH | for really small programs i dont see the point |
| 07:48.53 | JoshH | ok, well everything is starting to look antialiased to me so i better go to bed |
| 07:48.59 | JoshH | have fun |
| 07:49.39 | maquis | thanks :) |
| 07:49.40 | maquis | gnight |
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| 12:37.23 | graphyx | Gosh. JoshH, some people pay top dollar to have everything be antialiased with higher powered video cards. You get it for free and what do you do? Go to bed???? |
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| 13:45.00 | chinu | hi all |
| 13:45.04 | chinu | i have a question |
| 13:45.12 | chinu | regarding crawler in perl |
| 13:45.36 | levi | crawler in perl? |
| 13:46.13 | chinu | yes |
| 13:46.39 | chinu | i am writing a small crawler which will fetch page from our local site. |
| 13:46.51 | chinu | but it asks for user name and password |
| 13:47.32 | chinu | so i am using HTML::Form and LWP::UserAgent to post the username and password |
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| 13:51.13 | hans | that sounds more like a statement |
| 13:51.49 | chinu | ok, but i am getting erro page has been moved error 302 |
| 13:52.43 | levi | Well, you should probably look at the page that's giving that error. |
| 13:56.06 | graphyx | and if you want to use perl to do web stuff check into WWW::Mechanize |
| 13:57.47 | synic | chinu: that error 302 is used as a redirect by ASP, so it might be normal. |
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| 14:31.45 | tensai | you guys seen the latest worm propogating via a shell exploit in awstats? |
| 14:32.02 | levi | Nope. |
| 14:33.10 | [-] | because perl is so insecure!1! |
| 14:33.23 | tensai | it uses wget or curl (multiple variants) to download a perl irc bot. so far it just joins an irc channel. AFAICT |
| 14:33.31 | levi | Gah. I have no sound on my desktop anymore. |
| 14:34.40 | graphyx | That is why you have outbound connections initialized from your DMZ restricted to those hosts that you know need to be accessed by those machines (Update servers, other servers in your control...) |
| 14:34.51 | graphyx | so it can't download stuff onto the server that isn't needed. |
| 14:34.54 | tensai | you can see it in your logs as awstats.pl?configdir=|echo%20;... |
| 14:36.58 | levi | Don't see anything like that in my logs. |
| 14:38.30 | graphyx | Ok what about this one. |
| 14:38.41 | graphyx | We are using gentoo linux 2.6.11 kernel on some standard dell hardware. |
| 14:38.47 | graphyx | We have optical USb mice from dell. |
| 14:38.56 | graphyx | and on one machine the mouse will freeze onscreen. |
| 14:39.05 | graphyx | and unplugging/replugging won't fix it. |
| 14:39.21 | sjansen | ~music |
| 14:39.25 | ibot | hmm... music is essential for hacking -- especially calming music for debugging so you don't throw the damn machine out the nearest window Available from magnatune, a company that isn't evil. |
| 14:39.25 | graphyx | But switching to virt term (C-A-F1) and then back to gui (C-A-F7) will fix it. |
| 14:39.31 | graphyx | Any ideas what that is happening? |
| 14:40.26 | [-] | kvm? |
| 14:40.30 | graphyx | no |
| 14:40.52 | graphyx | Ok.. what about what steps can I take to diagnose what is occuring? |
| 14:40.54 | [-] | get any usb errors in your logs? |
| 14:41.13 | graphyx | what log should I check for usb errors? |
| 14:41.48 | [-] | dmesg might be a good starting point. |
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| 16:38.46 | hans | ~lart Jayce^ |
| 16:41.46 | levi | How's it going, hans? |
| 16:42.18 | hans | pretty good. |
| 16:43.40 | hans | I got 106% on my homework, it looks like |
| 16:43.58 | levi | Nice. |
| 16:44.03 | levi | Extra credit? |
| 16:44.22 | hans | yeah, I was extra-precise on the kernel code reading question, got 2 points |
| 16:44.39 | hans | but mostly my high score, relative to the others, was because I read his coding standards and followed them. :) |
| 16:44.46 | levi | Heh. |
| 16:45.57 | hans | just waiting for the bus now, and Jayce^ looked particularly vulnerable |
| 16:55.31 | Tene | ~lart hans |
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| 17:04.30 | hans | jsmith: i learned recently how to give priority to IRQs in recent kernels |
| 17:05.03 | hans | so if your asterisk dev is on its own irq (or shares with something inconsequential), you can give it super priority |
| 17:05.46 | jsmith | hans, Nice! |
| 17:05.52 | jsmith | hans: Mind sharing that? |
| 17:06.13 | hans | http://tapas.affenbande.org/?page_id=6 |
| 17:06.42 | hans | i think you may not even need the realtime-preempt in 2.6.13 |
| 17:06.45 | hans | maybe even 2.6.12 |
| 17:07.11 | hans | what you do need is thread {soft,hard}irqs |
| 17:07.28 | hans | and of course realtime-preempt will make responsiveness even better |
| 17:07.48 | jsmith | Yeah, I really need to play around with the newer kernels more... just haven't had the time, unfortunately. |
| 17:08.20 | hans | they're getting ever closer to panacea |
| 17:08.34 | hans | soon we'll have a decent audio kernel out-of-the-box |
| 17:09.23 | jsmith | Scary. |
| 17:09.28 | jsmith | Very scary. |
| 17:12.39 | mrpull- | whoa, Vista Beta 1 just came in the mail |
| 17:12.44 | hans | jsmith-away: it's just a vanilla kernel with one patch |
| 17:12.51 | hans | ~destroy vista |
| 17:12.52 | ibot | no |
| 17:14.19 | mrpull- | i'm a OS nut (though not as much as in the past)... it should be fun trying it out |
| 17:38.21 | maquis | question |
| 17:38.22 | maquis | is there a command that you can use to find out what process is causing the most disck usage? |
| 17:40.27 | Newsome | what process is using the disk? |
| 17:41.35 | maquis | Newsome: yes... that's what i want ot know |
| 17:41.46 | Newsome | disk space? disk requests? |
| 17:41.47 | maquis | btw, what's Colossus? my laptop keeps trying to connect to it |
| 17:42.00 | maquis | Newsome: disk requests, i guess |
| 17:42.22 | maquis | in gkrellm, my dsik monitor was spiked, and i was trying to figure out why... |
| 17:42.33 | hans | spiked, or pegged? |
| 17:42.38 | maquis | errr... |
| 17:42.40 | maquis | it was hi |
| 17:42.41 | maquis | er |
| 17:42.43 | maquis | high |
| 17:43.22 | maquis | it was consistently high for a little while, but i couldn't figure out what was accessing the disk |
| 17:43.29 | maquis | so, i was curious |
| 17:44.43 | mrpull- | maquis: is iostat what you are looking for? |
| 17:44.56 | Newsome | I'd guess that info is in /proc/<PID>/stat |
| 17:45.12 | maquis | mrpull-: possibly... i'll have to apt-get it to figure that out |
| 17:45.23 | maquis | Newsome: if i had the PID..... |
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| 17:46.28 | mrpull- | maquis: nm... iostat is more of a system wide summary |
| 17:47.26 | roscivs-w | postgres gurus: I have an "interval" data type, and I want a SELECT that will return me the result in hours. Any ideas? |
| 17:52.05 | roscivs-w | Found it: |
| 17:52.05 | roscivs-w | SELECT EXTRACT(EPOCH FROM my_interval)/3600 FROM tablename; |
| 17:52.23 | roscivs-w | Just in case anyone ever needs to do the same :) |
| 17:54.09 | levi | hans: This book looks interesting. It's got a foreward by Christopher Alexander, who is the originator of the design patterns idea in the field of architecture. http://www.dreamsongs.com/NewFiles/PatternsOfSoftware.pdf |
| 17:55.34 | sjansen | maquis: atop, but it requires a kernel patch |
| 17:55.59 | sjansen | sadly, per process io reporting in Linux needs a bit of work |
| 18:03.37 | maquis | sjansen: mmk |
| 18:05.29 | tensai | atop looks interesting. seems to be at least slightly useful with a stock kernel |
| 18:06.32 | tensai | ah, I see. it just shows cpu and memory info. the kernel patch is to show disk and network activity. |
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| 18:16.55 | maquis | wow... |
| 18:17.01 | maquis | a nano just walked by! |
| 18:17.10 | maquis | (well... a person with a nano) |
| 18:19.15 | Tene | You should kill that person and steal the nano. |
| 18:19.22 | tensai | ~smack Tene |
| 18:19.25 | ibot | ACTION smacks Tene upside the head. |
| 18:19.32 | maquis | Tene: good idea :) |
| 18:19.34 | maquis | but it's a white one |
| 18:19.36 | maquis | i want a black one |
| 18:19.38 | tensai | ~smack maquis |
| 18:19.40 | ibot | ACTION smacks maquis upside the head. |
| 18:19.52 | tensai | ~call the feds |
| 18:19.53 | ibot | ACTION looks around and then screams out the feds as loudly as possible |
| 18:20.10 | Tene | maquis: dried blood is a dark color. |
| 18:20.19 | maquis | Tene: :) |
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| 18:31.31 | vontrapp | ~lart hans |
| 18:33.27 | tensai | ~reboot falcon |
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| 18:38.56 | brandon_ | anyone know how to look at a dump from smartctl and tell how close a drive is to failing? |
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| 18:50.47 | misterpull | avg free edition got a lot harder to find |
| 18:51.02 | Tene | err... |
| 18:51.06 | Tene | http://free.grisoft.com/ |
| 18:51.40 | misterpull | heh. thanks tene |
| 18:51.56 | Tene | np |
| 18:52.28 | misterpull | it doesn't jump out at you on their home page anymore |
| 18:52.35 | Tene | Nope. |
| 18:52.51 | misterpull | maybe that Intel money made them greedy |
| 18:53.49 | misterpull | it is nice that I didn't need to have a license emailed to me |
| 18:57.39 | graphyx | So is there any javascript/ html/ whatever that will cause a link to open a new tab instead of a new window? |
| 18:57.50 | graphyx | in firefox/mozilla/ other tabbed browsers? |
| 18:57.55 | Tene | no |
| 18:58.03 | graphyx | why not? |
| 18:58.10 | graphyx | wouldn't that be cool? |
| 18:58.17 | graphyx | A very nice feature that IE doesn't have? |
| 18:58.35 | Tene | I would really really really like it if all that "new window" crap was never used. |
| 18:58.47 | tensai | ~Tene++ |
| 18:58.57 | Tene | if I want it open in a new window, I'll hold down shift when I click the link, dangit! |
| 18:59.05 | graphyx | Tene: Surely you aren't suggesting that there isn't a place when having a new window open isn't useful for both the developer and the user? |
| 18:59.07 | Tene | or any of the other dozen ways to make such an event happen |
| 18:59.21 | Tene | I agree that there is. |
| 18:59.30 | Tene | But those places are few and far between. |
| 18:59.43 | Tene | And it would be better if there was none than the current use. |
| 18:59.44 | graphyx | I agree that the item is way abused. |
| 19:00.58 | graphyx | So Tene would you agree that in those situations where a new window should be allowed, that the option to have it open in a new tab instead would be very nice also? |
| 19:04.13 | Tene | No. |
| 19:04.37 | Tene | I don't see any situation where that would be nice or useful. |
| 19:05.27 | Bradipo | graphyx: I always just middle click on a link and it opens in a new tab. |
| 19:07.13 | maquis | sssss |
| 19:07.32 | tensai | eek! a snake! |
| 19:07.41 | maquis | stupid connection issues |
| 19:11.23 | Tene | graphyx: where is a situation that you would want to use that? |
| 19:11.30 | Tene | Maybe I'm just not clever enough to think of one. |
| 19:11.37 | Tene | Where are you wanting to use it right now? |
| 19:12.04 | vontrapp | ~do send ricky-ticky-tavy after maquis |
| 19:12.06 | ibot | ACTION does send ricky-ticky-tavy after maquis. |
| 19:12.19 | vontrapp | grr |
| 19:12.26 | graphyx | Well we have some custom apps at work that require going to new links very often. In these cases the individuals have to move to the other tab and paste information into the page. |
| 19:12.50 | graphyx | If they could just have a link that would open the page with that information in a new tab it would take a lot less time. |
| 19:12.58 | graphyx | and they in turn would be more productive. |
| 19:14.07 | Tene | why can't they just click the middle mouse button if they want it that way? |
| 19:14.13 | Tene | and how is that different from new-window? |
| 19:18.44 | vontrapp | is there a shortcut key that does the same as middle-click (for x, e.g. paste) |
| 19:22.03 | Tene | shift+insert |
| 19:22.27 | Tene | argh, php is being... evil |
| 19:22.41 | Tene | trying to compile a php4 rpm for x86_64 FC4 |
| 19:24.05 | Tene | *gasp* |
| 19:24.08 | Tene | it worked! |
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| 19:28.42 | vontrapp | is there a way to make the clickable-ness of a link fill it's container? |
| 19:30.03 | maquis | vontrapp: i've seen it odne... but i'm not quite sure how |
| 19:30.31 | maquis | my guess is that it's not actually done with the link... it's probably that the container has an on-click method or something |
| 19:32.40 | vontrapp | shift-insert is cumbersome |
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| 19:34.28 | Tene | vontrapp: yes |
| 19:35.25 | Tene | vontrapp: expand the <a> to include the container |
| 19:37.50 | maquis | ~invoke levi |
| 19:38.00 | Tene | ~hug maquis |
| 19:38.01 | ibot | ACTION hugs maquis |
| 19:38.01 | levi | maquis: You rang? |
| 19:38.02 | vontrapp | ~invoke me |
| 19:38.17 | vontrapp | ~invoke vontrapp |
| 19:38.18 | Tene | vontrapp: that work? |
| 19:38.24 | vontrapp | Tene: yeah |
| 19:40.23 | misterpull | heh... we've gone full circle. Active Desktop -> Konfabulator -> Dashboard -> http://microsoftgadgets.com/ |
| 19:40.28 | maquis | levi: i'm trying to figure out if i did one of the homework problems right for 330 |
| 19:40.43 | maquis | i'm actually more confused by what the question wants, than i am about how to do it |
| 19:40.49 | levi | Which one? |
| 19:41.30 | maquis | 1.5 |
| 19:41.34 | maquis | hw 7 |
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| 19:47.06 | rob_w | hello utah |
| 19:47.17 | maquis | hello rob_w |
| 19:47.27 | Tene | hello germany |
| 19:47.31 | rob_w | hehe |
| 19:47.42 | rob_w | i am naked |
| 19:48.05 | rob_w | utah is inside the country , right ? |
| 19:48.12 | Tene | Inside... which country? |
| 19:48.18 | Tene | It's not inside China. |
| 19:48.28 | Tene | It's not inside Brazil. |
| 19:48.39 | rob_w | maybe they do have one , who knows them ? |
| 19:49.16 | Tene | I'm fairly certain that there are no provinces or sub-units named 'Utah' within those countries. |
| 19:49.25 | rob_w | i would like to invite ibot into a channel , i am looking for TimRiker |
| 19:49.32 | Tene | ~ibot |
| 19:49.34 | ibot | from memory, ibot is a blootbot written in perl run by TimRiker on his server. logs on http://ibot.rikers.org/<chan>/ , ibot, jbot, apt are all the same process. It uses sqlite, but mysql or other SQL storage is also supported. |
| 19:49.39 | tensai | ~seen TimRiker |
| 19:49.47 | ibot | timriker is currently on #botpark (3h 43m 16s) #linuxfund (3h 43m 16s) #ol (3h 43m 16s) #bzflag (3h 43m 16s) #utah (3h 43m 16s) #debian-bots (3h 43m 16s) #elinux (3h 43m 16s) # (3h 43m 16s) #fossfund (3h 43m 16s) #classiccmp (3h 43m 16s) |
| 19:49.47 | Tene | ~TimRiker |
| 19:49.48 | ibot | i guess timriker is my owner http://rikers.org/ mailto:Tim@Rikers.org mailto:TimR@Debian.org mailto:Tim@TI.com maintainer of BZFlag, member of a ton of open source projects http://www.advogato.com/person/timriker/ http://sourceforge.net/users/timriker/ the guy who GPL'd SCO's ABI files, giving every Linux user the right to use them ;-), or a very cool person, or ... |
| 19:50.43 | rob_w | wow, busy people all over |
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| 19:52.31 | *** mode/#utah [+o TimRiker] by ChanServ |
| 19:54.50 | Tene | TimRiker: some crazy german is here talking about killing you. |
| 19:54.59 | rob_w | nene |
| 19:56.33 | Tene | Don't do that. That +m silences the voices in my head. |
| 19:56.58 | vontrapp | what's the command to see what is bound to a specific port? |
| 19:57.18 | Tene | netstat |
| 19:57.30 | TimRiker | sudo netstat -antp | grep <portnum> |
| 19:59.25 | TimRiker | rob_w: so... speak. ;-) what channel are you asking for? It it a registered channel? If not, register it. If so, have one of the listed channel contacts ask me. apt/ibot/jbot/purl are all the same bot. last I checked apt had the fewest channels, so that's the one I'd prefer to add to channels next. |
| 19:59.45 | TimRiker | ibot: chanset autojoin |
| 19:59.45 | ibot | Showing autojoin values on all channels... |
| 19:59.45 | ibot | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:59.45 | ibot | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:59.45 | ibot | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:59.46 | ibot | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:59.46 | ibot | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:59.46 | ibot | End of list. |
| 20:01.01 | rob_w | #htc-blueangel and yes it is registered |
| 20:01.29 | rob_w | well i gladly help spread apt a bit more ;-) |
| 20:01.56 | vontrapp | hmm, netstat doesn't seem to show everything |
| 20:02.11 | vontrapp | Wed Sep 14 13:56:11 2005 TCP/UDP: Socket bind failed on local address [undef]:1194: Address already in use |
| 20:02.13 | graphyx | TimRiker: Does Ibot have the same responses on all of those channels? |
| 20:02.15 | vontrapp | Wed Sep 14 13:56:11 2005 Exiting |
| 20:02.17 | vontrapp | (13:58:09) von: sudo netstat -antp | grep 1194 |
| 20:02.20 | vontrapp | (13:58:30) និច: nich@mordor:/etc/openvpn$ sudo netstat -antp | grep 1194 |
| 20:08.50 | sjansen | graphyx: galeon used to have the ability to force new windows to be displayed in tabs |
| 20:10.08 | tensai | vontrapp: tcp or udp? what program? |
| 20:10.18 | vontrapp | openvpn |
| 20:10.42 | tensai | ok, that's udp then. try netstat -lnup. |
| 20:10.52 | tensai | TimRiker's command only showed tcp |
| 20:13.17 | roscivs-w | graphyx: Opera opens all links in tabs by default. jsyk. |
| 20:13.47 | sjansen | roscivs-w: even when target="foo" or javascript:window.open() is used? |
| 20:13.49 | vontrapp | i got it figured out already |
| 20:13.53 | vontrapp | what is SPDIF? |
| 20:13.58 | roscivs-w | sjansen: Yup. Always always always. |
| 20:14.10 | sjansen | spiffy |
| 20:14.11 | roscivs-w | I don't know of any method a web page can use to get a link to *not* open in a tab. |
| 20:14.31 | roscivs-w | You can explicitly create a new Opera window yourself through the menus, but I don't think a web page can do it. |
| 20:14.37 | sjansen | embedded java might be able to do the job |
| 20:14.51 | roscivs-w | I don't even know if that could do it. |
| 20:15.12 | roscivs-w | It'd be an interesting exercise for the Motivated Reader, I suppose. |
| 20:17.11 | Tene | the *really* annoying thing is when flash opens a new window |
| 20:17.23 | Tene | because I can't middle-click on it to make it open in a tab instead. |
| 20:17.44 | roscivs-w | Tene: Not even flash can do it in Opera. |
| 20:17.52 | Tene | well, yeah, but I don't use opera |
| 20:17.53 | roscivs-w | Sheesh, I'm starting to sound like an Opera fanboy here. |
| 20:18.03 | Tene | and I could just install an extension in FF to make it act like that |
| 20:18.03 | roscivs-w | "Use Opera! It's the best!" |
| 20:18.07 | sjansen | ~whack roscivs-w |
| 20:18.08 | ibot | ACTION whacks roscivs-w upside the head. |
| 20:18.13 | roscivs-w | d'oh! |
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| 20:21.48 | vontrapp | ~slap elg |
| 20:21.49 | ibot | ACTION slaps elg, keep your grubby fingers to yourself! |
| 20:23.03 | RyanE | vontrapp: SPDIF is digital audio. |
| 20:24.24 | elg | what else is it? |
| 20:24.43 | vontrapp | not friendly to mooses |
| 20:24.50 | vontrapp | ~whip elg |
| 20:25.17 | elg | ~whale vontrapp |
| 20:25.41 | RyanE | elg: that's all I know it to be. |
| 20:25.57 | elg | ~whaleslap vontrapp |
| 20:25.59 | ibot | ACTION slaps vontrapp upside and over the head with one freakishly huge killer whale named hugh |
| 20:33.07 | elg | oh for some reason I read "is also digital audio" |
| 20:33.24 | elg | too much sun. been walking back and forth across campus for half an hour |
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| 20:38.51 | vontrapp | ~sunburn elg |
| 20:43.50 | elg | the equivalent of the ASB is an 11 minute walk from the CS building at a brisk sandal pace |
| 20:50.06 | vontrapp | maybe you could get there faster if you had some wheelies |
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| 21:17.19 | goozbach | ~kill whoever gave goozbach the wrong info |
| 21:17.21 | ibot | ACTION shoots a magneto-ionized fluxneutrino gun at whoever gave goozbach the wrong info |
| 21:18.06 | goozbach | they told me it was a 5 day course, to be taught in 4 |
| 21:18.22 | goozbach | it turns out it's just a regular 5 day course |
| 21:18.42 | goozbach | and now I'm almost too far ahead to have anything to teach on friday |
| 21:19.38 | tensai | idlerpg? |
| 21:20.27 | goozbach | sadly, I have NO internet access whatsoever onsite at HP |
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| 21:21.52 | bonez39 | how does one add an entry to #PATH? |
| 21:22.12 | sjansen | Do you mean $PATH? |
| 21:23.05 | goozbach | export PATH=${PATH}:/some/new/dir |
| 21:23.35 | goozbach | or on the other side of the ${PATH} varible |
| 21:23.39 | bonez39 | sjansen, yeah, $PATH |
| 21:23.40 | goozbach | like so: |
| 21:23.56 | sjansen | bonez39: what goozbach said |
| 21:23.59 | bonez39 | I have seen some applications add items to the $PATH variable... |
| 21:24.02 | goozbach | export PATH=/some/new/dir:${PATH} |
| 21:24.08 | bonez39 | goozbach, thanks |
| 21:24.25 | sjansen | I generally use the first form. |
| 21:24.41 | goozbach | if you are using FC/RH there's a pathmunge function in /etc/profile |
| 21:24.45 | goozbach | or /etc/bashrc |
| 21:24.51 | goozbach | I don't remember which |
| 21:25.22 | goozbach | sjansen, bonez39: it depends on the priority of the new dir you want |
| 21:25.41 | sjansen | claro |
| 21:25.49 | bonez39 | ok..I am trying to setup up X11 Forwarding..so I can open applications running on my office BOX....at home |
| 21:26.47 | sjansen | using ssh? |
| 21:27.33 | bonez39 | yeah, using ssh |
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| 21:28.48 | sjansen | what problem are you having? |
| 21:29.05 | sjansen | or was that not a question? |
| 21:30.13 | bonez39 | sjansen, well, I run an application at work,, which, if I could access the screen for it at home...it would allow me to bring work home....... to update notes screens, etc... |
| 21:30.20 | bonez39 | sjansen, it's a fair question |
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| 21:31.54 | sjansen | so you want to remotely view an already running application? |
| 21:32.11 | bonez39 | yeah..... |
| 21:32.20 | sjansen | ssh alone can't do that |
| 21:32.25 | sjansen | I think nox can |
| 21:32.34 | sjansen | torriem knows more about it |
| 21:32.44 | bonez39 | I have a friend who runs cygwin...to do this...to run linux apps on his home computer, when he's at his office......running winxp on his laptop.....over dsl |
| 21:34.13 | sjansen | yes, but is he viewing already running apps, or is he remotely starting the app? |
| 21:34.46 | bonez39 | I think he's doing both...starting apps remotely..and viewing running applications |
| 21:35.18 | sjansen | you'll have to ask him how he does the latter |
| 21:35.29 | sjansen | as for just starting, it's very easy with ssh |
| 21:35.56 | sjansen | he could be using vnc |
| 21:36.02 | bonez39 | I have ssh setup..to not require a password to allow me to connect back and forth, from home to work... |
| 21:36.37 | sjansen | ssh -X user@remote.box xclock |
| 21:36.56 | sjansen | that should run xclock remotely and display it locally |
| 21:37.53 | sjansen | if there's much latency between it might take a moment to display |
| 21:38.03 | sjansen | I've also seen it hide behind other windows |
| 21:39.32 | sjansen | anyway, if that works you can just ssh -X anytime you want to forward X, then just run graphical apps by starting them from the command line |
| 21:39.58 | sjansen | (X will only be forwarded inside of the ssh session started with the -X) |
| 21:40.40 | jsmith | sjansen: Don't forget ssh -Y user@remote.box remote_app |
| 21:41.17 | sjansen | jsmith: I was going to get to that if -X didn't work |
| 21:41.49 | jsmith | I had no doubt you knew it... but I find it a lot more useful than ssh -X with modern distros. |
| 21:42.40 | sjansen | You shouldn't use it by default. |
| 21:42.54 | sjansen | Most apps should work in untrusted mode. |
| 21:45.44 | bonez39 | sjansen, i try ssh -X username@office.ip.add.ress xclock and just end up getting : Error: Can't open display: |
| 21:46.51 | sjansen | bonez39: could you do an ssh -vvv -X user@box xclock and upload it to paste.listp.org? |
| 21:47.28 | bonez39 | brb with paste id |
| 21:49.24 | bonez39 | sjansen, that was "paste.listp.org"? |
| 21:49.49 | bonez39 | can't open that url |
| 21:50.38 | sjansen | paste.lisp.org |
| 21:53.03 | sjansen | (or your favorite paste site) |
| 21:53.45 | bonez39 | http://pastebin.com/363979 |
| 21:53.56 | bonez39 | there ya go....grab your glasses and an ice pack for your neck |
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| 22:04.40 | sjansen | Looks like you need to edit /etc/ssh/sshd_config and set X11Forwarding yes on the remote machine |
| 22:05.09 | sjansen | Although I'm curious about your |
| 22:05.19 | sjansen | x11_get_proto line |
| 22:06.17 | misterpull | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:06.49 | bonez39 | sjansen, should that work....just editing that and setting the forwarding, , would it need a reboot? |
| 22:07.40 | bonez39 | what's the X11_get_proto line? I found the setting for X11Forwarding in both /etc/ssh/ssh_config and /etc/ssh/sshd_config |
| 22:08.17 | sjansen | You'll need to restart sshd. The x11_get_proto was int he debugging output. |
| 22:09.47 | bonez39 | oh... |
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| 22:27.50 | jsmith | sjansen: This late in the day... you're brave! |
| 22:27.54 | maquis | sjansen: good luck |
| 22:27.57 | maquis | wait.. |
| 22:28.04 | Jayce^ | reminds me of an INSOC song... |
| 22:28.05 | maquis | stuporglue said *don't go* when he tried |
| 22:28.08 | maquis | he had to reinstall |
| 22:28.10 | Jayce^ | "and now he's going going gone..." |
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