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| 00:08.21 | xbmodder_lappy | I hate bush, bush do we hate, bush is a piece of crappy tush, like my frickin little nicklin bitchin' presi'dant |
| 00:08.35 | xbmodder_lappy | 430 bucks mheath |
| 00:08.39 | xbmodder_lappy | mheath, 430 bucks |
| 00:08.57 | xbmodder_lappy | can i beat you down? |
| 00:22.02 | xbmodder_lappy | you think I should visit the girl I have a crush on in hwaii? |
| 00:24.59 | xbmodder_lappy | hello |
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| 00:30.22 | goozbach | bonez39: jpackage's goal is to get it to work easier. |
| 00:30.53 | maquis | ~beat xbmodder_lappy |
| 00:30.56 | ibot | ACTION beats xbmodder_lappy with a large stick. |
| 00:31.01 | xbmodder_lappy | wha? |
| 00:31.04 | maquis | ~language xbmodder_lappy |
| 00:31.06 | ibot | ACTION grabs xbmodder_lappy by the ear and washes xbmodder_lappy's mouth out with soap |
| 00:31.15 | xbmodder_lappy | oh |
| 00:31.19 | xbmodder_lappy | thats not nice |
| 00:31.34 | goozbach | you're language isn't all that nice |
| 00:31.53 | maquis | nor is what you're saying |
| 00:32.19 | xbmodder_lappy | I don't like bush |
| 00:32.29 | maquis | so i noticed |
| 00:32.57 | xbmodder_lappy | lol |
| 00:34.18 | tuple | not a very good troll |
| 00:34.31 | maquis | tuple: ??? |
| 00:36.06 | tuple | ~dict tuple |
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| 00:49.53 | xbmodder_lappy | ~lart maquis |
| 00:50.00 | xbmodder_lappy | LOL |
| 00:51.45 | Supaplex | I'm not going to clean up that mess :P |
| 00:59.09 | graphyx | evening all. |
| 01:00.14 | xbmodder_lappy | lol |
| 01:14.39 | tuple | what's so funny about that? |
| 01:15.05 | tuple | I could spend way too long here: http://freesound.iua.upf.edu/index.php |
| 01:26.00 | xbmodder_lappy | ~fubar |
| 01:26.01 | ibot | fubar stands for f*cked up beyond recognition |
| 01:26.06 | xbmodder_lappy | cool |
| 01:33.35 | xbmodder_lappy | lars__ what is amcnabb |
| 01:33.37 | xbmodder_lappy | LOL |
| 01:34.30 | xbmodder_lappy | ~amcnabb |
| 01:34.42 | xbmodder_lappy | why is ibot so slow |
| 01:34.44 | xbmodder_lappy | ~amcnabb |
| 01:42.49 | dataw0lf- | tuple: that's some cool stuff. |
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| 02:03.53 | xbmodder_lappy | What should I eat? |
| 02:04.09 | graphyx | food. |
| 02:04.28 | xbmodder_lappy | the last guy said your laptop |
| 02:17.40 | goozbach | it's 7 and my students just left |
| 02:17.49 | goozbach | we got SOOOOO far behind |
| 02:17.56 | maquis | you kept them 2 hours late? |
| 02:18.46 | goozbach | no, we didn't finish the chapter till 5 |
| 02:18.53 | goozbach | they stayed late to do the lab |
| 02:19.00 | maquis | oh... |
| 02:19.05 | maquis | cuz they have the test tomorrow, right? |
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| 02:19.41 | goozbach | yeah... |
| 02:20.04 | maquis | sucky |
| 02:21.19 | goozbach | very |
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| 02:47.41 | {-} | It sure is quiet. |
| 02:47.42 | {-} | A little too quiet. |
| 02:48.23 | maquis | turn that thing down!!!! |
| 02:48.28 | maquis | now! |
| 02:49.44 | mheath | Lock it up =P |
| 02:56.26 | goozbach | but mine goes to 11 |
| 02:59.19 | {-} | http://www.nerdtests.com/ft_cg.php?im |
| 03:01.50 | goozbach | ~rot13 trrxfnerterng |
| 03:01.50 | ibot | geeksaregreat |
| 03:04.14 | {-} | goozbach: you cheated |
| 03:04.54 | {-} | someone who actually knew what rot13 does would have noticed the g and t swapped in the two versions |
| 03:05.05 | maquis | or r and e |
| 03:05.10 | {-} | someone even more hard core would have been able to rot13 mentally |
| 03:12.26 | {-} | they misspelled compact disc |
| 03:13.09 | {-} | 91% |
| 03:13.11 | goozbach | I'm a god... |
| 03:13.23 | goozbach | oh yeah, mr hard core...I got 98% |
| 03:14.07 | maquis | w00t! |
| 03:14.49 | maquis | 90 |
| 03:15.57 | {-} | but that woulda been worth at least a percentage point :-( |
| 03:16.53 | goozbach | {-}: it isn't cheating if they don't tell you what you can and cannot do. |
| 03:17.11 | goozbach | a true geek makes use of all of his/her tools |
| 03:17.17 | {-} | you cheated |
| 03:17.23 | maquis | ~cheater |
| 03:17.31 | {-} | a real geek doesn't need a program for something as simple as rot13 |
| 03:17.39 | maquis | no kidding |
| 03:17.41 | maquis | i didn't need to cheat |
| 03:17.49 | goozbach | said mr 91% |
| 03:18.20 | {-} | goozbach: yeah, well at least I _earned_ my 91%, mr. actually 45%!!! |
| 03:18.22 | goozbach | caus It be late |
| 03:18.32 | goozbach | you cannot prove a thing |
| 03:18.39 | goozbach | er wait... yes you can. |
| 03:19.35 | {-} | maquis: so what'd you say for the ascii? |
| 03:20.24 | goozbach | I just counted hex nibbles and chose the one which was exactly 11 characters long |
| 03:20.58 | {-} | see, you don't have to cheat to be a geek |
| 03:21.25 | goozbach | no need to get all condesending |
| 03:21.26 | maquis | {-}: ummm... i don't remember... but it sounded more likely than others.. :) |
| 03:21.37 | maquis | oh... |
| 03:21.44 | maquis | wait you mean the translation? |
| 03:22.35 | maquis | i noticed that it had to be one of the ones with the 20s in the right place... then noticed that there were some double letters in one of them that weren't in the other, then checked there |
| 03:22.42 | maquis | and noticed that it was the "i eat frogs" one |
| 03:23.00 | goozbach | oh yeah {-} == sjansen, so maybe there is a need for you to condecend |
| 03:23.34 | {-} | you call me insecure?! |
| 03:23.47 | {-} | you calling me a poser?! |
| 03:24.04 | {-} | What you saying and what shape do you want me to rearrange your face into?!!! |
| 03:26.52 | {-} | wow, changing my backups answer raised me to 93% |
| 03:27.21 | tene | 97 |
| 03:28.21 | {-} | huh, I was wrong about the inventor of pong |
| 03:34.31 | {-} | tene: did you cheat? |
| 03:34.51 | tene | no |
| 03:35.10 | {-} | then you get to replace goozbach 'cause he did |
| 03:35.17 | {-} | ~praise tene |
| 03:35.19 | ibot | All hail tene! |
| 03:35.24 | tene | sweet! |
| 03:35.42 | tene | ibot: tene is also more winningish than goozbach |
| 03:35.43 | ibot | okay, tene |
| 03:35.45 | tene | ~tene |
| 03:35.46 | ibot | methinks tene is Tenebram, or the king of pirate, or my god, or chocolate frosted sugar bombs, or a liar, or more winningish than goozbach |
| 03:41.27 | tene | But.. maquis... you know that girls aren't good with computers... |
| 03:41.42 | maquis | ~beat tene |
| 03:41.44 | ibot | ACTION beats tene with a large stick. |
| 03:41.47 | maquis | ~kill tene |
| 03:41.48 | ibot | ACTION shoots a inverse neutrino gun at tene |
| 03:41.49 | tene | ~laugh |
| 03:41.50 | ibot | ACTION rolls around on the floor laughing |
| 03:41.55 | maquis | ~hit tene |
| 03:41.57 | ibot | ACTION slaps tene. |
| 03:41.57 | tene | ~apologize |
| 03:41.58 | ibot | ACTION apologizes to tene |
| 03:42.04 | tene | ~apologize to maquis |
| 03:42.36 | maquis | ~hold grudge |
| 03:42.52 | tene | ~only kidding and you know that |
| 03:44.04 | Supaplex | ~entertain us |
| 03:44.13 | Supaplex | useless bots :-x |
| 03:44.17 | tene | ~dance |
| 03:44.18 | ibot | "ah, ah, ah, ah, stayin' alive, stayin' alive" |
| 03:44.19 | tene | ~explode |
| 03:44.21 | ibot | BOOOM |
| 03:44.29 | tene | ~roar |
| 03:44.30 | ibot | WRAAA!! |
| 03:44.45 | {-} | ~funkybomb Supaplex |
| 03:44.46 | ibot | ACTION blows away Supaplex in a psychedelic flash |
| 03:44.53 | Supaplex | oooo nice |
| 03:45.14 | {-} | ~travolta Supaplex |
| 03:45.17 | ibot | ACTION replaces Supaplex with several craters in a multi-colored display of superior fire power |
| 03:45.41 | Supaplex | http://www.kcpw.org/audio/090105s5.mp3 podcast of Orrin Hatch being a boob as usual |
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| 04:25.25 | maquis | "your operating system is not supported by Comcast's Installation Wizard" |
| 04:25.42 | maquis | why in the world does an ISP require a specific browser? |
| 04:25.45 | maquis | s/browser/ops |
| 04:25.47 | maquis | s/ops/os |
| 04:26.45 | {-} | ~hug mirrordot |
| 04:26.46 | ibot | ACTION hugs mirrordot |
| 04:43.59 | RyanE | a bit behind, tonight. :) |
| 04:46.00 | maquis | grrrrr |
| 04:46.20 | maquis | i'm sure *someone* has dealt with this already |
| 04:49.56 | mrpull | maquis: call comcast and tell them you have an old mac |
| 04:51.05 | maquis | mrpull: why can't it just work? |
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| 04:51.32 | mrpull | comcast are goofballs? |
| 04:51.37 | maquis | i mean... why in the world do they care what OS i have |
| 04:51.41 | maquis | i'm using dhcp |
| 04:51.50 | maquis | it should work fine |
| 04:52.06 | maquis | it won't even give me an IP address unless I route it through a router |
| 04:52.52 | mrpull | i like using a little home router anyway |
| 04:53.00 | maquis | yes.. |
| 04:53.32 | mrpull | i didn't have comcast for long... but i had a windows box for the tech to use for the setup. |
| 04:53.33 | maquis | but even then, when i try to use the internet, i just get a page that says "you can't use this with your operating system"... |
| 04:53.39 | maquis | then it sticks its tongue out at me |
| 04:53.49 | mrpull | that _is_ silly |
| 04:54.10 | mrpull | can your browser lie about the agent? |
| 04:56.00 | maquis | i don't see anything on google about the problem |
| 04:59.13 | mrpull | IIRC, the tech went to a specific website (running on a nonstandard port) to register the mac address of my cable modem |
| 04:59.41 | mrpull | once that was done, it was wide open, and I hooked up my WAP/router |
| 05:00.06 | mrpull | until that was done, I think all web traffic was redirected to an error page |
| 05:00.22 | maquis | hmmm |
| 05:00.29 | maquis | http://www.dynamicobjects.com/d2r/archives/003257.html |
| 05:01.13 | mrpull | http://www.dynamicobjects.com/d2r/archives/003257.html |
| 05:02.13 | maquis | haha |
| 05:02.14 | mrpull | maquis: why didn't comcast set it up for you? |
| 05:02.29 | maquis | my roommates went over and picked up the cable modem today in lindon |
| 05:02.32 | mrpull | i goofed and pasted your link when I copied it. |
| 05:02.55 | maquis | then they brought them home and dumped them on my bed with the assumption that i would know what to do with it |
| 05:02.59 | maquis | which, for the most part, i did |
| 05:03.08 | maquis | wow |
| 05:03.27 | maquis | this little windoze partition still exists? |
| 05:09.39 | maquis | hmmm |
| 05:09.51 | maquis | well... it won't let me go into the little windoze partition without registering over the internet |
| 05:09.57 | maquis | but i can't do that until internet is set up |
| 05:10.07 | maquis | so, we're going to see how this little windoze livecd works |
| 05:10.20 | mrpull | barts pe? |
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| 05:18.30 | goozbach | never underestimate the savour of a 2-bit sidewalk taco stand. |
| 05:19.28 | mrpull | holy cow. how much is gas where you are? |
| 05:20.45 | maquis | mrpull: yes... but it's still not going to let me do anything |
| 05:20.55 | maquis | i don't get it |
| 05:21.06 | goozbach | mrpull: supreme is at 3.15 |
| 05:21.11 | mrpull | call comcast... they can do what they need done over the phone. |
| 05:21.13 | goozbach | but I'm not paying for it |
| 05:21.39 | mrpull | goozbach: heh... maybe if you saved your employer some money they could give you a raise :) |
| 05:22.40 | mrpull | maquis: when I had a flaky modem, I had to call it to activate the replacement modem |
| 05:22.41 | goozbach | mrpull: my employer isn't paying either |
| 05:22.56 | mrpull | goozbach: clients? |
| 05:22.57 | maquis | mrpull: yeah... trying to avoid calling in |
| 05:23.00 | goozbach | the customer is paying |
| 05:23.13 | goozbach | and It's already been pre-approved |
| 05:23.50 | goozbach | plus the fact that I didn't use all that much gas this week |
| 05:23.54 | emcnabb | goozbach, I ate mole tonight |
| 05:23.57 | goozbach | maybe a quarter tank |
| 05:24.02 | emcnabb | the mexican dish, not the rodent |
| 05:24.03 | goozbach | emcnabb: where you at? |
| 05:24.09 | emcnabb | Sacramento |
| 05:24.09 | goozbach | mole |
| 05:24.24 | goozbach | holy mole |
| 05:24.31 | maquis | ~lart emcnabb |
| 05:24.44 | mrpull | maquis: i've had good luck with comcast support in the past... |
| 05:24.46 | maquis | emcnabb: you use comcast, right? |
| 05:24.51 | emcnabb | I went to a Mexican restaurant, and I ordered mole, they were out of it, so the cook made a fresh batch just for me |
| 05:24.54 | xbmodder_lappy | whaa? |
| 05:24.58 | emcnabb | maquis, we use quest |
| 05:25.01 | emcnabb | qwest |
| 05:25.10 | mrpull | maquis: I'm not as stuborn about calling support as I used to be... |
| 05:25.10 | maquis | mrpull: yeah... but that involves going and finding all of the info about the girl whose name this is all under, since it's not me |
| 05:25.17 | maquis | grrr |
| 05:25.29 | mrpull | maquis: ewwww... tell her to straighten it out :) |
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| 05:25.56 | maquis | mrpull: she doesn't think we need anything beyond the wireless that we can take from others in the complex |
| 05:26.08 | maquis | i'm the only one with a machine that doesn't do wireless |
| 05:26.36 | mrpull | so there are other machines in the house and none of them are windows? |
| 05:26.48 | mrpull | are you making this too hard on yourself? |
| 05:28.21 | maquis | mrpull: that's a good point |
| 05:28.29 | maquis | other computers with windoze |
| 05:29.38 | xbmodder_lappy | lol |
| 05:29.55 | xbmodder_lappy | you mean a house full of college girls using linux right? |
| 05:30.43 | mrpull | xbmodder_lappy: yes... I worded that poorly.... |
| 05:31.07 | mrpull | i imagine it would smell better than a house full of college boys who use linux ;) |
| 05:31.35 | xbmodder_lappy | lol I was bored |
| 05:33.38 | xbmodder_lappy | that'd be awesome tho |
| 05:33.42 | xbmodder_lappy | Linux and women |
| 05:33.48 | xbmodder_lappy | the best of both worlds |
| 05:33.59 | fozzmoo | I remember when we would do demo days at Utah State... |
| 05:34.11 | fozzmoo | Set up a bunch of Linux boxes in the big hallway of the student center. |
| 05:34.15 | mrpull | no disrepect to maquis... but I dont know may hot linux users |
| 05:34.22 | fozzmoo | As students walk back and forth... |
| 05:34.27 | mrpull | s/may/many |
| 05:34.41 | mrpull | some of those BSD chicks are hot tho :) |
| 05:34.50 | fozzmoo | There'd be a couple of us who would notice the attractive young women walking by... not even noticing our herd of computers... |
| 05:35.04 | fozzmoo | And someone would say, "Why can't SHE run Linux?!" |
| 05:35.17 | mrpull | fozzmoo: that is pretty nerdy |
| 05:35.23 | mrpull | fozzmoo: you rock! |
| 05:35.37 | fozzmoo | http://www.fozzilinymoo.org/events/2001-LWCE-NY/images/0131/bsd-devilettes.medium.jpg |
| 05:36.20 | fozzmoo | And of course: http://www.fozzilinymoo.org/events/2001-LWCE-NY/images/0131/doran-with-devilettes.medium.jpg |
| 05:37.02 | mrpull | that's what i'm talking about! |
| 05:37.07 | fozzmoo | heh heh. |
| 05:37.14 | mrpull | have you _ever_ seen a hot chick dressed as a penguin? |
| 05:37.35 | mrpull | i've considered mass migration to BSD based on the chicks alone |
| 05:47.06 | maquis | hmmm |
| 05:47.26 | maquis | so, i tried my roommate's computer, and it claimed that things were set up incorrectly |
| 05:47.30 | maquis | which i know isn't true |
| 05:49.50 | mrpull | a webpage is telling you things aren't set up right? |
| 05:51.50 | maquis | no...i stuck the comcast setup cd in her drive, and it claimed that it wasn't set up correctly |
| 05:56.22 | mrpull | good luck to all... i'm off to bed |
| 06:10.09 | xbmodder_lappy | http://xbmodder.us/dance.gif |
| 06:10.20 | goozbach | tobed with me... |
| 06:10.33 | xbmodder_lappy | dude I know a really hot debian chick |
| 06:10.56 | xbmodder_lappy | goozbach, knows that red head, felicia, she is pretty hot, eh? |
| 06:12.13 | xbmodder_lappy | maquis, you gotta picture of yourself? |
| 06:13.37 | maquis | w00t! internet access! |
| 06:15.51 | goozbach | she's attractive, but taken... :( |
| 06:15.52 | xbmodder_lappy | sweet |
| 06:15.56 | xbmodder_lappy | goozbach, lol |
| 06:16.03 | xbmodder_lappy | goozbach, you gotta picture? |
| 06:16.11 | xbmodder_lappy | maquis, get an orkut |
| 06:16.28 | goozbach | and I'd be suprised if she didn'a t run redhat/fc becaquse she's redhat employee |
| 06:16.49 | xbmodder_lappy | goozbach, maquis works for redhat? |
| 06:18.01 | goozbach | no, the redhead that works at redhat stupid. |
| 06:19.05 | goozbach | mys typing iss dying and I gots to get up earilyer |
| 06:21.50 | goozbach | something I just noticed... |
| 06:22.06 | goozbach | I can eat off a street vendor taco stand no problem |
| 06:22.34 | goozbach | I went to a 'big chain restuant' and got sick from eating their shrimp... |
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| 06:42.14 | goozbach | http://gcfl.net/archive.php?funny=20001018 |
| 06:44.29 | maquis | hahahaha |
| 06:45.12 | xbmodder_lappy | yeah you should |
| 07:05.24 | maquis | ~invoke levi |
| 07:11.37 | maquis | ~cancel invoke |
| 07:16.36 | bonez39 | how do I get sound working? |
| 07:16.47 | maquis | bonez39: is alsa installed? |
| 07:18.12 | bonez39 | maquis, xmms lists it... |
| 07:18.20 | bonez39 | but lsmod doesn't show alsa anything... |
| 07:21.53 | maquis | bonez39: what distro? |
| 07:26.42 | bonez39 | debian |
| 07:26.46 | bonez39 | 3.1 |
| 07:27.09 | maquis | apt-get install alsa and alsa-utils and see if it says they're installed already |
| 07:27.17 | bonez39 | the error says....coudn't open audio...blah blah |
| 07:27.37 | maquis | bonez39: is anything else open that might be holding onto the sound-drivers? |
| 07:28.01 | bonez39 | no, I get sound no where..... |
| 07:28.13 | bonez39 | but installng alsa now.... |
| 07:28.39 | maquis | did this work previously? or has it never worked? |
| 07:30.47 | bonez39 | sound works on this machine, but this is a different kernel |
| 07:30.58 | maquis | is alsa enabled in the kernel? |
| 07:31.04 | bonez39 | I don't get sound anywhere... |
| 07:31.14 | bonez39 | not sure if also is enabled at kernel level |
| 07:31.22 | bonez39 | does alsa work as a module? |
| 07:31.36 | maquis | ummm.. |
| 07:31.40 | maquis | let me check how i have it |
| 07:31.46 | bonez39 | ok, thanks |
| 07:33.03 | maquis | mmk |
| 07:33.12 | maquis | i was wrong... it's not alsa you need to add in there |
| 07:33.31 | maquis | but you need to make sure you have sound turned on in the kernel |
| 07:33.36 | maquis | and that your sound drivers are loaded |
| 07:33.42 | maquis | lsmod |
| 07:34.06 | maquis | # |
| 07:34.07 | maquis | # Sound |
| 07:34.07 | maquis | # |
| 07:34.07 | maquis | CONFIG_SOUND=m |
| 07:34.07 | maquis | # |
| 07:34.08 | bonez39 | there's no alsa or oss in lsmod output list |
| 07:34.09 | maquis | # Advanced Linux Sound Architecture |
| 07:34.11 | maquis | # |
| 07:34.13 | maquis | CONFIG_SND=m |
| 07:34.16 | maquis | CONFIG_SND_TIMER=m |
| 07:34.19 | maquis | CONFIG_SND_PCM=m |
| 07:34.21 | maquis | CONFIG_SND_SEQUENCER=m |
| 07:34.24 | maquis | # CONFIG_SND_SEQ_DUMMY is not set |
| 07:34.26 | maquis | CONFIG_SND_OSSEMUL=y |
| 07:34.29 | maquis | CONFIG_SND_MIXER_OSS=m |
| 07:34.31 | maquis | CONFIG_SND_PCM_OSS=m |
| 07:34.34 | maquis | CONFIG_SND_SEQUENCER_OSS=y |
| 07:34.36 | maquis | # CONFIG_SND_VERBOSE_PRINTK is not set |
| 07:34.39 | maquis | # CONFIG_SND_DEBUG is not set |
| 07:34.41 | maquis | CONFIG_SND_INTEL8X0=m |
| 07:34.44 | maquis | CONFIG_SND_INTEL8X0M=m |
| 07:34.44 | bonez39 | it's a while since I tweaked my kernel config file... |
| 07:34.50 | maquis | (those last two depend on what driver your kernel needs) |
| 07:35.03 | maquis | bonez39: don't tweak it in the file |
| 07:35.14 | maquis | use make menuconfig |
| 07:35.17 | maquis | or make xconfig |
| 07:35.18 | bonez39 | I mean, just to see how it is set |
| 07:35.37 | maquis | it's /usr/src/linux/.config |
| 07:36.01 | maquis | i'd suggest just doing a cat /usr/src/linux/.config | grep SND |
| 07:36.12 | maquis | (actually |
| 07:36.28 | bonez39 | in my /usr/src, I have only 'rpm'..nothing else there.. |
| 07:36.35 | maquis | cat /usr/src/linux/.config | grep SND | grep -v '#' |
| 07:36.45 | bonez39 | no usr/src/linux and therefore no /usr/src/linux/.config |
| 07:36.52 | maquis | ok... |
| 07:37.05 | maquis | what's in /usr/src |
| 07:37.14 | maquis | it should have the kernel that you're currently working with |
| 07:37.22 | bonez39 | scott:/usr/src/rpm# cd .. |
| 07:37.22 | bonez39 | scott:/usr/src# ls -l |
| 07:37.22 | bonez39 | total 4 |
| 07:37.22 | bonez39 | drwxr-xr-x 7 root root 4096 2005-08-05 04:10 rpm |
| 07:37.22 | bonez39 | scott:/usr/src# |
| 07:37.24 | maquis | something like linux-2.6.12.5 or something |
| 07:37.25 | bonez39 | that's it |
| 07:37.42 | bonez39 | scott:/usr/src# uname -a |
| 07:37.42 | bonez39 | Linux scott 2.4.26-01-NeTraverse-i686-UP-4GB #1 Wed Jun 9 14:40:16 UTC 2004 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 07:37.42 | maquis | where'd you get this new kernel from? |
| 07:37.58 | bonez39 | I shouldn't say new kernel..it's what installed when I loaded debian on my new hdd.. |
| 07:38.05 | maquis | ah... |
| 07:38.18 | maquis | this is going to make things quite a bit harder |
| 07:38.27 | bonez39 | oh, cause it's an older kernel? |
| 07:38.32 | maquis | no |
| 07:38.38 | maquis | because you don't have the kernel-sources installed |
| 07:38.57 | maquis | which means you don't have the config file that was used to build this kernel |
| 07:39.07 | bonez39 | ah, that's right....yeah, it's not here... |
| 07:39.18 | maquis | that makes things hard |
| 07:39.26 | bonez39 | I should just install a newer 2.6.6 kernel..and custom tailor the kernel.. |
| 07:39.33 | maquis | yeah |
| 07:40.26 | bonez39 | ok, any suggestions? which kernel do you run right now? |
| 07:40.43 | maquis | i just installed 2.6.12.5 |
| 07:40.59 | maquis | i heard that 2.6.13 is out now... |
| 07:41.06 | maquis | but i haven't dealt with it yet |
| 07:41.29 | maquis | i would offer you my config, but i think it'd just be more work for you because i have things pared down quite a bit... |
| 07:41.37 | maquis | actually, i think there is a config file in /boot |
| 07:41.50 | maquis | you could work off that to see what's turned on |
| 07:42.06 | maquis | i think debian turns everything on as a module by default, which means that you should have the module someplace |
| 07:42.11 | maquis | what does lsmod say? |
| 07:42.42 | bonez39 | I want to have a lean kernel...... |
| 07:42.57 | bonez39 | I'll just post it here.... |
| 07:42.57 | maquis | just for now, though, what does lsmod say? |
| 07:43.01 | bonez39 | scott:/usr/src# lsmod |
| 07:43.01 | bonez39 | Module Size Used by Not tainted |
| 07:43.01 | bonez39 | snd 30752 0 (autoclean) |
| 07:43.02 | bonez39 | soundcore 3524 0 (autoclean) [snd] |
| 07:43.02 | bonez39 | input 3328 0 (autoclean) |
| 07:43.04 | bonez39 | Mvnetd 10348 1 (unused) |
| 07:43.06 | bonez39 | Mvnet 57744 0 [Mvnetd] |
| 07:43.08 | bonez39 | Mvnetint 320 0 (unused) |
| 07:43.12 | bonez39 | Mvw 5096 1 (unused) |
| 07:43.14 | bonez39 | Mvmouse 1020 1 (unused) |
| 07:43.16 | bonez39 | Mvkbd 1240 1 (unused) |
| 07:43.18 | bonez39 | Mvgic 3696 0 (unused) |
| 07:43.20 | bonez39 | Mvdsp 1372 1 (unused) |
| 07:43.22 | bonez39 | Mserial 7092 0 (unused) |
| 07:43.24 | bonez39 | Mmpip 7832 1 (unused) |
| 07:43.26 | bonez39 | Mmerge 143524 0 [Mvnetd Mvnet Mvw Mvmouse Mvkbd Mvgic Mvdsp Mserial Mmpip] |
| 07:43.28 | bonez39 | mki-adapter 20788 0 [Mvnetd Mvnet Mvnetint Mvw Mvmouse Mvkbd Mvgic Mvdsp Mserial Mmpip Mmerge] |
| 07:43.30 | bonez39 | appletalk 20076 12 (autoclean) |
| 07:43.32 | bonez39 | parport_pc 12484 1 (autoclean) |
| 07:43.34 | bonez39 | lp 5792 0 (autoclean) |
| 07:43.36 | bonez39 | parport 13248 1 (autoclean) [parport_pc lp] |
| 07:43.38 | maquis | hmmm.... only snd and soundcore? |
| 07:43.38 | bonez39 | usb-storage 61728 0 (unused) |
| 07:43.42 | bonez39 | usb-uhci 22020 0 (unused) |
| 07:43.44 | bonez39 | usbcore 58400 1 [usb-storage usb-uhci] |
| 07:43.46 | bonez39 | ide-scsi 9152 0 |
| 07:43.48 | bonez39 | tulip 39360 1 |
| 07:43.50 | bonez39 | crc32 2960 0 [tulip] |
| 07:43.52 | bonez39 | agpgart 43840 0 (unused) |
| 07:43.54 | bonez39 | rtc 6204 0 (autoclean) |
| 07:43.56 | bonez39 | you asked..;) |
| 07:43.58 | bonez39 | are you running debian too, or some other distro? |
| 07:44.02 | bonez39 | yeah... |
| 07:44.08 | maquis | i'm doing sarge right now |
| 07:44.26 | bonez39 | and you can install the 2.6.12 on sarge? |
| 07:44.40 | maquis | i went to kernel.org and downloaded it and installed it manually |
| 07:44.50 | maquis | but then again, i'm a gentooer by nature :) |
| 07:44.58 | maquis | i haven't had any problems |
| 07:45.09 | maquis | actually, i'm kinda in between sarge and unstable |
| 07:45.10 | bonez39 | I guess I am looking at the apt-cache search kernel-image list and wondering which to grab....ah, you didn't use apt-get for this |
| 07:45.13 | bonez39 | ok.. |
| 07:45.43 | bonez39 | ok, last question, then I am heading out....do you use any particular routine for installing new kernel? |
| 07:46.00 | maquis | what do you mean about particular routine? |
| 07:46.30 | bonez39 | the basic procedure..it's been a while.I guess the docs on kernel.org are sufficient... |
| 07:46.37 | maquis | make |
| 07:46.43 | maquis | make modules_install |
| 07:47.10 | maquis | cp arch/i386/boot/bzImage /boot/kernel-2.6.12.5 |
| 07:47.30 | maquis | cp System.map /boot/System.map-2.6.12.5 |
| 07:47.41 | maquis | cp .config /boot/config-2.6.12.5 |
| 07:48.02 | maquis | vim /boot/grub/menu.lst |
| 07:48.16 | bonez39 | ah, ok.... |
| 07:48.20 | maquis | then edit the menu.lst to add the new kernel to the bottom of the list |
| 07:48.24 | maquis | hopefully, i got it all |
| 07:48.32 | bonez39 | update-grub works great too.... |
| 07:48.34 | maquis | i'm going off the top of my head for all that |
| 07:48.36 | bonez39 | to update menu.lst |
| 07:48.40 | maquis | update-grub? |
| 07:48.41 | bonez39 | ok, thanks..that is helpful.. |
| 07:48.49 | maquis | how come nobody bothered to tell me that!!!! |
| 07:48.53 | bonez39 | or grub-update...I like grub over lilo |
| 07:49.08 | maquis | that rocks |
| 07:49.11 | bonez39 | it checks for new kernels and adds them to the list....for boot time selection |
| 07:49.24 | maquis | that's cool |
| 07:49.34 | bonez39 | well, now you know..... |
| 07:49.34 | maquis | seeing as it's 2 |
| 07:49.37 | bonez39 | thanks Erin |
| 07:50.06 | maquis | no prob |
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| 13:35.42 | dataw0lf | morning everyone |
| 14:12.58 | tuple | why in the world do I need a full-page ad from paypal when logging into my paypal account? |
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| 14:29.13 | graphyx | so they can make money? |
| 14:33.13 | tuple | i'm already using paypal. I'm not exactly the best target for an ad |
| 14:33.49 | tuple | it's not just an ad on the page - I logged in and I get a full-page ad that I have to click "continue on to my account" to get past |
| 14:34.08 | tuple | yahoo is selling domain names for $2/yr (up to 5 years) |
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| 14:38.48 | tuple | through sep 2, but there's something about a setup fee. anyone know yahoo's setup fee? |
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| 15:07.03 | jsmith | bzob: What's up? |
| 15:07.16 | bzob | nada mucho. |
| 15:07.23 | jsmith | Good! |
| 15:07.27 | bzob | how are you doing? |
| 15:07.40 | jsmith | Busy... but I'm going on vacation next week :-) |
| 15:07.57 | bzob | wow! B is letting you take a vacation ;) |
| 15:08.14 | bzob | schweet, where ya goin? |
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| 15:09.16 | jsmith | bzob: Cruise. LA -> San Diego -> Catalina Island -> Ensenada |
| 15:09.37 | bzob | noice! |
| 15:10.49 | tapH20guru | I'm looking fer cool Linux / FOSS propaganda for our LUG's booth at WSU |
| 15:10.59 | tapH20guru | anyone have any cool flyers, etc? |
| 15:11.46 | jsmith | tapH20guru: Don't do flyers -- *show* how great Linux is :-) |
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| 15:12.11 | graphyx | Just get a nice setup with a cool interface playing a dvd. |
| 15:12.18 | tapH20guru | lol - I'll have a laptop running a live cd on it. We're giving away some live cds |
| 15:12.18 | graphyx | That is how they show windows at the store.. |
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| 15:19.15 | xbmodder_ | damnit |
| 15:19.17 | xbmodder_ | #%$^@# |
| 15:19.22 | bonez39 | any mutt gurus here today? |
| 15:21.21 | graphyx | I am fond of kittens.. |
| 15:23.39 | xbmodder_ | graphyx: that was random, cool. I don't like puppies |
| 15:24.13 | graphyx | well he wanted a mutt expert.. I don't know much about dogs.. but I dad have a lot of cats growing up.. |
| 15:24.16 | tapH20guru | lol |
| 15:25.24 | goozbach | tapH20guru: it's too bad the SSS disk isn't done yet |
| 15:25.35 | goozbach | that'd be a cool thing for your booth |
| 15:26.02 | dataw0lf | bonez39: I know my way around mutt. |
| 15:28.43 | tapH20guru | I've downloaded the latest SSS version |
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| 15:28.50 | tapH20guru | Is there a new one you're working on? |
| 15:29.04 | tapH20guru | should I not use the one I d/l? |
| 15:30.07 | xbmodder_ | lol |
| 15:31.52 | tapH20guru | I'm also burning copies of TheOpenCD |
| 15:32.35 | goozbach | tapH20guru: there's one in develppment |
| 15:32.41 | goozbach | it's all but finailzed |
| 15:35.40 | xbmodder_ | cool |
| 15:39.36 | xbmodder_ | yo |
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| 15:42.46 | xbmodder_ | harleypig: hey! |
| 15:42.57 | harleypig | yo! |
| 15:44.33 | bonez39 | dataw0lf, I am missing something in moving from an old hdd to new one in same system... |
| 15:44.58 | bonez39 | dataw0lf, mutt loads.and it send out fine..i have sent some test messages..I just can't seem to receive email in mutt...when I open it.... |
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| 16:02.00 | levi | Morning. |
| 16:03.04 | ECS | ~lart xbmodder_ for swearing and reminds him that's innappropriate here |
| 16:09.03 | maquis | ~language xbmodder |
| 16:09.05 | ibot | ACTION grabs xbmodder by the ear and washes xbmodder's mouth out with soap |
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| 16:13.27 | brandon_ | can an ip tunnel be forced to send all data over a specific port between systems, or does it use whichever port the data requested? |
| 16:20.53 | tuple | tapH20guru: WSU? You go back to school? |
| 16:22.51 | RyanE | brandon_: any particular tunnel? |
| 16:23.17 | RyanE | brandon_: If you setup an SSH tunnel, you tell it what ports you want to forward through the tunnel, and what the local port number is as well. |
| 16:25.56 | tuple | xbmodder: last warning |
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| 16:27.36 | tapH20guru | tuple: OALUG is considered a club there |
| 16:27.48 | tapH20guru | tuple: and yes.. I'm taking one class there :) |
| 16:28.11 | tuple | ah, WSU = Weber State. I was thinking Washington State or something |
| 16:28.25 | levi | plug is on fire today. |
| 16:29.54 | harleypig | MJD says: " Most of the Wikipedia population seems quite happy to |
| 16:29.54 | harleypig | suck up a huge amount of time organizing projects and subprojects and |
| 16:29.54 | harleypig | committees and little subtribes and to have long discussions about |
| 16:29.54 | harleypig | process and rules and guidelines and conventions and so on. Sometimes |
| 16:29.55 | harleypig | I get invited to join these affinity groups, and I always decline, |
| 16:29.57 | harleypig | because I know when I die and get sent to Hell as punishment for my |
| 16:29.59 | harleypig | sins, that's what I'll be doing full-time, so why rush into it early?" |
| 16:30.01 | harleypig | woops |
| 16:30.12 | harleypig | didn't mean to flood ... thought it would take up less space than that. |
| 16:30.26 | tuple | you screen hog you |
| 16:30.32 | maquis | hehe |
| 16:30.48 | harleypig | ? Doesn't everyone have 2000x2000 32" screens? |
| 16:31.50 | harleypig | wheee! |
| 16:33.08 | harleypig | So what do people think about setting up a #utah version of idlerpg? :> |
| 16:33.25 | harleypig | We could call it #idleutah |
| 16:33.32 | tuple | for idle postgres processes or what? |
| 16:33.56 | harleypig | :] No, it's a rpg where you don't do anything but idle in a channel (see #idlerpg) |
| 16:34.12 | harleypig | The longer you idle, the more levels you get. |
| 16:37.31 | tapH20guru | lol |
| 16:37.45 | brandon_ | ryane: and that will pass all data, so if I were going out on port 555 from behind a firewall to a server on a public ip to it's port 555, and it also had a private network interface, it would let me get into those systems? right? |
| 16:38.39 | RyanE | the SSH tunnel tunnels ports over the SSH connection, which is normally port 22. You could run an SSH server listening on whatever port you wanted. |
| 16:39.09 | RyanE | it does NOT send ALL port requests through, though. You specify what ports you want locally, and what port you want them to use on the other side. |
| 16:39.14 | RyanE | you can man the -L param. |
| 16:39.14 | levi | harleypig: Sounds like the old ZenMOO. |
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| 16:43.36 | goozbach | screen++ |
| 16:46.37 | goozbach | this is gonna be easy... |
| 16:47.24 | brandon_ | ryane: hmm, I wonder if this would work correctly, as I need to access an nfs server behind the remote nat/firewall. If I did a `ssh -L 4:remoteip:555 -l user remoteip` it would get the packets to that remote server on port 555, but then if I tried to nfs mount something on a system behind the nat run by the remoteip system, how does this work? .. Or is there a better way? |
| 16:52.10 | RyanE | your NFS client on the local side would connect to port 4. |
| 16:52.21 | RyanE | -L localport:remoteip:remoteport |
| 16:53.18 | RyanE | and you'd have to have an SSH login on remoteip or a machine local to remoteip. |
| 16:53.32 | RyanE | You can tunnel through another machine, and have the remoteIP go to a different machine than you're SSHing into. |
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| 16:58.56 | brandon_ | hmm, so if the remoteip was 5.5.5.5 and the system behind it was 10.0.0.1 I'd do `ssh -L 4:10.0.0.1:4 -l user 5.5.5.5.5`? |
| 17:00.20 | RyanE | yes, but normally, the local port is a high port, so you don't have to be root to make the tunnel. |
| 17:00.29 | brandon_ | then on my system I do a `mount 10.0.0.1:/path /localpath`? |
| 17:00.53 | RyanE | but the issue is mount doesn't know to use the local port number... |
| 17:01.33 | RyanE | ssh -L 10000:10.0.0.1:4 -l user@gatewaymachine Your client then should connect on localhost:10000, not remote:4 |
| 17:01.40 | RyanE | not 10.0.0.1:4 |
| 17:01.43 | brandon_ | ah, so I need to do `ssh -l 5000:10........` then tell mount to mount to port 5000 on localhost? |
| 17:02.57 | RyanE | yep. |
| 17:03.04 | brandon_ | thanks, that makes sense |
| 17:03.06 | RyanE | and you do 5000 so you don't have to be su to do it. |
| 17:04.48 | brandon_ | okay |
| 17:05.06 | harleypig | levi: Haven't heard of that one ... although they have a link to a page that has a bunch of pictures of people holding the word moo in various forms. |
| 17:07.17 | levi | harleypig: I don't think it exists anymore, so I'm not sure what you're looking at. |
| 17:07.42 | levi | ZenMOO was a MUD-type thing that you would telnet into and idle on. |
| 17:09.58 | brandon_ | ryane: so I now have sfs (secure nfs) running behind a firewall over a secure tunnel, through nat, to the other box ;) tricky.. |
| 17:10.29 | goozbach | http://gcfl.net/archive.php?funny=20000301 |
| 17:11.27 | brandon_ | .. or not, sfs is choking |
| 17:20.45 | dataw0lf | levi: ZenMOO! |
| 17:20.48 | dataw0lf | good stuff. |
| 17:24.30 | tuple | ~lart vontrapp |
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| 17:36.00 | vontrapp | tuple: nice nich |
| 17:36.13 | vontrapp | lots of tuple fun |
| 17:36.28 | vontrapp | ~lart tuple |
| 17:36.47 | tene_ | shouldn't that be "cat5-o-nine-tails"? |
| 17:37.14 | dataw0lf | hehe |
| 17:38.32 | dataw0lf | mmm tuples |
| 17:38.40 | dataw0lf | ~love tuples |
| 17:38.42 | ibot | If you love tuples so much, why don't you marry it? (oooooh) |
| 17:39.07 | dataw0lf | hmmm, not a bad idea. |
| 17:39.12 | graphyx | tuples have made some people very wealthy. |
| 17:39.37 | dataw0lf | so, uh, what's a tuple like you doing in a place like this? |
| 17:39.40 | graphyx | If fact I would date say that most hackers that have made money off of hacking have used tuples! |
| 17:40.03 | tuple | nich? |
| 17:40.16 | tuple | you've been listening to nicholas too much. |
| 17:40.31 | tuple | dataw0lf: idline |
| 17:40.33 | tuple | er, idling |
| 17:40.40 | dataw0lf | hawt! |
| 17:40.41 | dataw0lf | ;) |
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| 17:53.07 | vontrapp | tuple: oops, yeah, nich, nick, whatever |
| 17:53.20 | vontrapp | that was my idea you know, i convinced him to go by nich |
| 17:53.31 | goozbach | tensai: see, evil never pays |
| 17:53.31 | tuple | ~lart vontrapp |
| 17:53.44 | vontrapp | ~squelch tuple |
| 17:53.50 | vontrapp | stupid bot |
| 17:54.04 | vontrapp | ~relate tuple |
| 17:55.19 | tuple | I will emerge victorious if it kills me |
| 17:55.38 | tensai | goozbach: evil is it's own reward |
| 17:55.51 | tensai | s/it's/its/ |
| 17:59.11 | goozbach | tensai: true that |
| 17:59.59 | tensai | isn't it like cheating that we've just moved our rpg comments to a different channel? |
| 18:03.22 | tuple | comments? there's comments in idlerpg? |
| 18:03.38 | tuple | i thought the whole point was to avoid comments |
| 18:05.12 | tuple | i'm flying now. I'm getting a whopping 950B/s from suse's ftp server |
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| 18:08.01 | bucky | SuSE has always made downloads as painful as possible so you end up buying the cd's |
| 18:08.45 | tuple | which, naturally, is not painful at all |
| 18:08.50 | tuple | especially on remote systems. |
| 18:09.12 | goozbach | tensai: you can't tell me that the others aren't doing so. |
| 18:09.23 | tensai | tuple: yes. so instead, we're commenting here. considering that I'm an evil Orcish minstrel I feel no guilt, of course |
| 18:10.56 | bucky | 950B/s is my definition of pain |
| 18:11.28 | bucky | you'd think Novell could afford a bigger server |
| 18:14.32 | {-} | http://www.the-washingtons.com/blog/wp-content/speeding.jpg |
| 18:39.33 | goozbach | this idler RPG is neat |
| 18:39.46 | goozbach | I wish I'd have found out about it mucho sooner |
| 18:45.30 | goozbach | http://gcfl.net/archive.php?funny=20010531 |
| 18:52.49 | goozbach | http://gcfl.net/archive.php?funny=20031024 |
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| 19:27.00 | harleypig | idlerpg *is* addictive innit. |
| 19:32.56 | graphyx | innit? |
| 19:34.40 | tene_ | "isn't it?" |
| 19:34.48 | harleypig | yep |
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| 19:35.25 | graphyx | did someone put up an idlerpg for #utah? |
| 19:36.33 | goozbach | let's just all join #idlerpg and then have some webpage that strips out the xml's for the #utahns |
| 19:38.30 | harleypig | :> |
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| 19:38.38 | harleypig | goozbach: probably a better idea. |
| 19:39.43 | harleypig | Or even announce it in this channel. |
| 19:39.45 | harleypig | :] |
| 19:42.18 | *** topic/#utah by tensai -> The source for OSS focused discussion in Utah. See sllug.org, uphpu.org, plug.org, uug.byu.edu, uvlug.org, fslc.usu.edu, nupm.org, utwaa.org, oalug.com. See planetutah.adelantellc.com for aggregate feed | Join the quest: #idlerpg |
| 19:51.35 | mrpull- | idlerpg certainly looks -uh- interesting |
| 19:52.11 | mrpull- | i thought the idle part might have something to do with python or something slightly productive |
| 20:01.28 | goozbach | you see, this is a game I was born to win... |
| 20:08.58 | maquis | but oh well |
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| 20:09.30 | levi | Hi, maquis. You lost your capitalization! |
| 20:09.45 | levi | Everyone is changing their names. It's so confusing. |
| 20:10.28 | tensai | I just got SMS spam. How annoying! |
| 20:10.34 | maquis | le |
| 20:10.42 | maquis | levi: yes,,, i killed it |
| 20:10.43 | vontrapp | lovely, isn't it |
| 20:10.52 | maquis | lowercase is pretty fun |
| 20:11.21 | maquis | btw levi, you weren't around when i had a scheme question at 1:30 this morning |
| 20:11.23 | levi | SMS spammers must be rounded up and exterminated. |
| 20:11.25 | harleypig | AAHHHHGG I parted idlerpg by mistake! |
| 20:11.36 | levi | maquis: I was very tired, having been up until 3 the morning before. |
| 20:11.44 | levi | maquis: Did you get it resolved? |
| 20:11.47 | maquis | excuses, excuses |
| 20:11.48 | maquis | yeah |
| 20:11.57 | levi | What was the question? |
| 20:12.08 | maquis | i was trying to do (= y 'foo), but i needed to do (eq? y 'foo) |
| 20:12.15 | maquis | just took a while to figure out |
| 20:12.37 | levi | Ah, yeah. Scheme and Common Lisp both have a multiplicity of equality predicates. |
| 20:12.45 | maquis | yeah |
| 20:12.47 | vontrapp | maquis: are you taking a class with lisp or just learning it? |
| 20:12.56 | maquis | vontrapp: cs330 --- scheme |
| 20:13.01 | vontrapp | ah, right |
| 20:13.06 | vontrapp | what's the class on? |
| 20:13.19 | levi | Programming Languages |
| 20:13.38 | maquis | ibot: join #idlerpg |
| 20:13.45 | levi | It's really a cool class if you can avoid getting hung up on Scheme. |
| 20:13.55 | tensai | the official title is "Programming Languages: an introduction to Evil(tm), Pure Evil(tm)." |
| 20:14.04 | levi | The class is not /about/ Scheme. |
| 20:14.09 | maquis | 14:13 <ibot> I am not allowed to join #idlerpg. |
| 20:14.09 | maquis | 14:13 <maquis> why not? |
| 20:14.09 | maquis | 14:13 <ibot> because I don't like you |
| 20:14.17 | harleypig | What're those? c++ and visual basic? |
| 20:15.21 | levi | harleypig: More like first-class continuations and the Y-combinator. Much more classy evil than the low-class C++ and VB stuff. ;) |
| 20:15.38 | harleypig | heh |
| 20:16.55 | maquis | s/leel/level |
| 20:17.15 | levi | maquis: Have you got to curried functions yet? |
| 20:17.26 | maquis | levi: we just had our 3rd day of class |
| 20:17.36 | maquis | today was our first hw assignment |
| 20:17.39 | vontrapp | mmmm, curry |
| 20:17.39 | maquis | so, we haven't gotten to much of anything |
| 20:17.44 | levi | Ahh. |
| 20:17.55 | tensai | levi: I could never figure out curried functions. kept making me hungry. |
| 20:17.56 | maquis | today was how to define a function and use if/cond statements |
| 20:18.00 | levi | vontrapp: These are named after the man, not the spice. |
| 20:18.27 | levi | maquis: Well, things will be moving into unfamiliar territory soon, don't worry. :) |
| 20:18.47 | vontrapp | curry popcorn |
| 20:18.53 | tensai | curry udon |
| 20:18.58 | maquis | vontrapp: that actually sounds good |
| 20:19.03 | tensai | curry tonkatsu |
| 20:19.10 | scott | I have an excel sheet with one column that has names like "Bob Jones." Anyone know how to sort it by the Jones, or get the Jones (the last word in the cell) out and put it in another column and then I could sort by that? |
| 20:19.14 | levi | I love Thai red curry. |
| 20:19.17 | vontrapp | yeah, just smelled popcorn when thinking of something curry-like to say |
| 20:19.29 | tensai | I'm glad I had lunch already. you guys would be killing me. as it is I'm about to puke. |
| 20:19.39 | maquis | levi: thai red curry is one of my favorites... |
| 20:19.49 | maquis | my parents like yellow better, but i think they're crazy |
| 20:20.14 | vontrapp | yeah, red is way better |
| 20:20.24 | levi | scott: Export to csv, use perl/python/whatever your preferred language is. :) |
| 20:20.59 | levi | My favorite is probably Pa Naeng. |
| 20:21.10 | levi | Though other Thai red curry dishes are excellent too. |
| 20:21.33 | vontrapp | use cut/sort |
| 20:22.20 | maquis | hey! |
| 20:22.29 | maquis | i've been in there longer than goo |
| 20:22.32 | maquis | and i haven't progressed |
| 20:22.42 | maquis | i told IdleBot who i am... |
| 20:22.45 | vontrapp | w00t, level 5 |
| 20:23.02 | maquis | he never replied... is IdleBot supposed to reply when i tell him who i am? |
| 20:24.30 | maquis | ??? |
| 20:25.07 | vontrapp | maquis: yes, he should reply |
| 20:25.22 | vontrapp | it's actually newdlebot |
| 20:25.48 | vontrapp | wait, now there's this OldleBot |
| 20:26.29 | harleypig | Don't worry abot oldlebot |
| 20:26.53 | harleypig | type /msg newdlebot errmmm ... register I think |
| 20:27.22 | vontrapp | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:31.05 | tensai | can I have multiple characters? |
| 20:33.08 | harleypig | Dunno. Give it a shot. |
| 20:37.38 | maquis | thanks all |
| 20:38.29 | harleypig | Inventive name maquis! :> |
| 20:39.17 | maquis | harleypig: ?? |
| 20:39.29 | harleypig | In idlerpg. |
| 20:39.38 | maquis | well... i like my name :) |
| 20:39.55 | harleypig | Dontcha know? RPG requires a fake name ... well ... |
| 20:40.05 | maquis | uh huh... |
| 20:40.10 | harleypig | since idlerpg is a game within irc it should be a faker name. |
| 20:40.10 | harleypig | :> |
| 20:40.21 | harleypig | more fake? |
| 20:40.21 | maquis | ah... |
| 20:40.31 | maquis | too bad |
| 20:42.11 | harleypig | AES? |
| 20:42.50 | mrpull- | encryption? |
| 20:42.54 | mrpull- | sounds easy ;) |
| 20:43.07 | mrpull- | maquis: did you get your cable modem figured out? |
| 20:43.13 | maquis | mrpull-: yeah |
| 20:43.20 | maquis | ended up on the phone with comcast, and got it up |
| 20:43.37 | maquis | still need to get it working with the wireless router, but for now, my server is feeling happy |
| 20:43.53 | mrpull- | good news. well done. |
| 20:44.09 | harleypig | Acadian Entomological Society? |
| 20:44.12 | maquis | thanks :) |
| 20:44.15 | harleypig | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:44.17 | maquis | ~harleypig |
| 20:44.18 | ibot | methinks harleypig is rumored to not be "all up there". Hagrid's stunt double |
| 20:44.23 | harleypig | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:44.30 | harleypig | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:44.35 | maquis | mrpull-: yes... encryption |
| 20:44.38 | harleypig | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:44.43 | levi | maquis: You want to write an AES routine in some language, or you want to use an already-written library to encrypt something? |
| 20:44.46 | maquis | doesn't look too easy from the 51 page spec |
| 20:44.54 | maquis | levi: write an AES routine in C |
| 20:45.08 | harleypig | ibot: harleypig is also a PITA! |
| 20:45.09 | ibot | harleypig: okay |
| 20:45.11 | levi | maquis: Wikipedia has a pretty good description of the algorithm. |
| 20:45.17 | harleypig | ~harleypig |
| 20:45.19 | ibot | from memory, harleypig is rumored to not be "all up there". Hagrid's stunt double, or a PITA! |
| 20:45.23 | tensai | harleypig: nope. only one character at a time |
| 20:45.30 | tensai | :( |
| 20:45.39 | maquis | levi: i'll look there |
| 20:46.00 | levi | maquis: You doing it for fun or for an assignment? |
| 20:46.06 | maquis | assignment |
| 20:46.07 | maquis | security |
| 20:47.10 | maquis | we don't get items yet? |
| 20:47.19 | maquis | oh... |
| 20:47.21 | maquis | i see |
| 20:57.02 | graphyx | how do you join the idelrpg? |
| 21:00.35 | harleypig | graphyx: /msg newdlebot help and go to the link |
| 21:02.00 | graphyx | k |
| 21:03.45 | graphyx | what channel is it going on it? |
| 21:08.58 | vontrapp | #idlerpg |
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| 21:21.35 | harleypig | What have I started? |
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| 21:34.09 | tensai | harleypig: a party! wahoo! |
| 21:34.16 | harleypig | :D |
| 21:37.05 | tensai | is it wrong to have 6500 clauses in a SQL query? if I'm abusing a SQL Server, does that make it okay? |
| 21:37.39 | levi | tensai: Bad, bad tensai! |
| 21:37.46 | levi | No biscuit! |
| 21:39.21 | levi | (heh, heh... it was really a dog biscuit!) |
| 21:46.03 | tensai | it appears that the server either refuses to run my query or my client is giving up :( |
| 21:48.52 | goozbach | http://gcfl.net/archive.php?funny=20011212 |
| 22:07.08 | bonez39 | got a grub question....if I just let my machine boot up...it boots to kernel 2.4.26...yet, that kernel doesn't show up anywhere in menu.list.....is my machine possessed |
| 22:07.38 | jsmith | bonez39: Yes :-) |
| 22:10.45 | bonez39 | jsmith, call in the Exorcist.... |
| 22:13.48 | tene_ | bonez39: you've got a misnamed kernel |
| 22:19.16 | bonez39 | tene_, really? how would that happen...I know that the last item in menu.list is named 'win4lin' , a la |
| 22:19.28 | bonez39 | # added by NeTraverse - DO NOT REMOVE THIS LINE, it's used for uninstall |
| 22:19.28 | bonez39 | title Win4Lin |
| 22:19.28 | bonez39 | root (hd2,0) |
| 22:19.28 | bonez39 | kernel /boot/win4lin root=/dev/hde1 ro |
| 22:19.28 | bonez39 | # end added by NeTraverse - DO NOT REMOVE THIS LINE, it's used for uninstall |
| 22:19.29 | bonez39 | ~ |
| 22:20.02 | bonez39 | that's what defaults upon reboot....so it's just giving it the name 'Win4Lin' instead of kernel 2.4.26...right? |
| 22:26.12 | vontrapp | bonez39: what does your default line say |
| 22:40.14 | tuple | heh. "Old C hippies will recognize sprintf() as the method that takes a string..." |
| 22:42.16 | levi | tuple: What's that from? |
| 22:42.22 | vontrapp | ~lart tuple |
| 22:47.00 | goozbach | I need a bash or GNU-util way of stating "exactly 1.5 hours from now" ... any ideas |
| 22:47.51 | jsmith | goozbach: Like "at +1.5 hours" |
| 22:47.52 | tensai | with no external help or hinderance it will take 256 days to reach level 30 |
| 22:48.14 | jsmith | goozbach: Go read the man page for at |
| 22:48.23 | goozbach | jsmith: yes, but to be able to use outside of at contex |
| 22:48.23 | tensai | now + 90 minutes |
| 22:48.33 | tensai | my at didn't like 1.5 |
| 22:49.07 | goozbach | so I can say "echo `date -d 'now + 1.5 hours'` |
| 22:49.21 | goozbach | I cannot figure out how to get date to do so |
| 22:49.35 | goozbach | it can say next saturday, but not 1.5 hours from now |
| 22:50.12 | tensai | oops, not 256 days. just 102 hours or 4 days 6 hours |
| 22:50.30 | mheath | mmm, I love scripting :) |
| 22:50.35 | goozbach | tensai: first to 30 gets a drink of choice from the other? |
| 22:50.53 | mheath | *threw |
| 22:52.11 | goozbach | and using Date::Calc seems way to overkill |
| 22:52.50 | goozbach | I guess I could visit the at command's source and find the system call |
| 22:53.41 | tensai | $ date -d 'now + 90 minutes' |
| 22:53.41 | tensai | Fri Sep 2 18:23:30 MDT 2005 |
| 22:54.01 | goozbach | DUH!!! |
| 22:54.14 | goozbach | thanks tensai |
| 22:55.55 | goozbach | good freaking greif, I can't belive I didn't stumble on to that one |
| 22:56.14 | tene_ | co-worker encountered strange problem |
| 22:56.41 | tene_ | running 'gvim' in Konsole results in a gvim with W/.vimrc read/parsed |
| 22:56.52 | tensai | goozbach: I tried at first and it has better error messages. 'parse error. Last token seen: .' |
| 22:57.09 | tene_ | but running it from the KDE Run... dialog or from a context menu in konqueror causes gvim to not read .vimrc |
| 22:57.12 | tene_ | s/W/~/ |
| 22:57.40 | harleypig | o/~ I don't want to start any blasphemous rumours |
| 22:57.50 | {-} | A BSD installfest?! I thought BSD was dead. |
| 22:57.53 | harleypig | o/~ But I think God has a sick sense of humour |
| 22:58.00 | harleypig | o/~ And when I die |
| 22:58.06 | harleypig | o/~ I expect to find him laughing |
| 22:58.28 | harleypig | I love Depeche Mode ... haven't heard this song in a while. |
| 22:59.00 | levi | The intersection of the sets of Depeche Mode fans and Harley riders can't be very large. |
| 23:12.39 | mheath | Hmm....Are firefox extensions system-wide or specific to the user who installs them? |
| 23:12.50 | Bradipo | Depends on the OS I suppose. |
| 23:13.15 | mheath | In GNU/Linux |
| 23:13.17 | Bradipo | If you are running a *nix it is most likely user specific (unless installed as root in a system central location). |
| 23:13.20 | tene_ | mheath: depends on where they're installed |
| 23:13.29 | tene_ | if a user installs it as user, then it's only for that user |
| 23:13.38 | tene_ | normal users *can't* make system-wide changes |
| 23:13.38 | mheath | Its a system-wide install |
| 23:13.50 | tene_ | like |
| 23:13.56 | mheath | Ah. I guess that would be why its complaining when I try to install extensions. |
| 23:13.56 | tene_ | not the FF install, where the extension is installed |
| 23:14.08 | tene_ | You can install plugins for the system, or just for a particular user |
| 23:14.19 | tene_ | if a normal user installs it, then it's not system-wide |
| 23:14.23 | tene_ | just in that user's home directory |
| 23:14.35 | mheath | I wonder why this is erroring then... |
| 23:14.41 | mheath | It says the extension file is invalid |
| 23:14.44 | tene_ | Yay! |
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| 23:45.31 | tuple | levi: rails book |
| 23:45.50 | levi | Ahh, okay. |
| 23:45.59 | levi | I guess I'm an old C hippie, then. |
| 23:46.05 | tuple | I thought that was funny |
| 23:46.17 | tuple | sjansen is definitely an old C hippie, too |
| 23:47.12 | levi | I'm reading Concepts, Techniques, and Models of Computer Programming. It's very interesting. |
| 23:47.17 | maquis | at least not yet |
| 23:47.18 | maquis | :) |
| 23:47.48 | maquis | so, i saw some girl today around noon wearing a sweatshirt... |
| 23:47.57 | maquis | i was vaguely curious if she was crazy |
| 23:49.01 | levi | They're defining a 'kernel language' in terms of its operational semantics, which are simple enough to reason about. They will then proceed to build upon the kernel language with language abstractions and syntactic sugar which will be defined in terms of the kernel language. |
| 23:49.30 | levi | And there will be several different kernel languages to represent different computation models. |
| 23:49.36 | levi | This first one is declarative. |
| 23:49.51 | levi | Which encompasses functional and logic programming. |
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| 23:51.50 | levi | This would be a good textbook for CS330, I think. Not that the current one isn't good as well. |
| 23:52.17 | maquis | ~lart SpecialK |
| 23:52.27 | levi | Anyway, time to head home. |
| 23:52.39 | SpecialK | ~lart Maquis |
| 23:53.15 | SpecialK | I wonder what my password got changed to. . . |
