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| 01:05.30 | graphyx | Afternoon ish to everyone.. |
| 01:05.57 | mheath | Heh, it's 1900 hours |
| 01:06.07 | graphyx | yeah... |
| 01:06.18 | graphyx | I suppose good evening would have worked.. but it is still so bright outside.. |
| 01:06.24 | mheath | Good point |
| 01:06.26 | graphyx | Had to close the shade to be able to work. |
| 01:11.40 | graphyx | mheath what's your job currently? Net admin? |
| 01:12.46 | mheath | graphyx: .....I work at applebees for $6.00 an hour. |
| 01:12.53 | mheath | Net admin is a dream to me.\ |
| 01:13.08 | graphyx | Oh... You looking for a job in tech then? |
| 01:13.15 | graphyx | Or just trying to finish up school? |
| 01:13.39 | mheath | Trying to find a job that I don't hate so much, and that pays better |
| 01:13.51 | mheath | I'm still in highschool at the moment |
| 01:14.07 | graphyx | how long till you graduate? |
| 01:14.27 | mheath | graphyx: I'll graduate this May |
| 01:14.37 | graphyx | Nice.. |
| 01:14.50 | graphyx | Got any programming skills? |
| 01:16.00 | mheath | graphyx: I have certifications in visual basic and java programming, college credit in java programming, and experience with C and PHP |
| 01:16.12 | graphyx | nice. |
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| 01:21.10 | hans | ~lart emcnabb |
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| 01:45.33 | graphyx | hans what are you up to recently? |
| 01:47.58 | tene__ | he killed five men in peru |
| 01:48.17 | graphyx | I am sure.. |
| 01:48.27 | graphyx | hans.. put your knife away.. k? |
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| 01:51.18 | graphyx | Evan how are you and the wife doing? |
| 01:51.44 | graphyx | Any kids yet? |
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| 02:13.47 | emcnabb | graphyx, we're doing well |
| 02:13.50 | emcnabb | no kids yet |
| 02:16.51 | graphyx | good. |
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| 04:00.22 | Supaplex | kids, the most prolific STD |
| 04:05.06 | dataw0lf- | Supaplex: wow... that's a bit... harsh. |
| 04:12.34 | dataw0lf- | mheath: Sorry, one of my friends was getting screwed by an employer, and I know for certain he's great at Windows client troubleshooting, so I'm pretty sure he's getting the job. |
| 04:13.09 | dataw0lf- | mheath: but, a word of advice, don't bug potential employers, even if they're readily available online. I know you're eager, and young, but it's a bit annoying. |
| 04:13.40 | Maquis | ~bug dataw0lf- |
| 04:13.51 | Maquis | hmmm] |
| 04:13.53 | Maquis | too bad |
| 04:13.57 | dataw0lf- | ;) |
| 04:13.58 | mheath | dataw0lf, thank you for the advice, and sorry. |
| 04:13.59 | Maquis | gonna have to set that up |
| 04:14.00 | dataw0lf- | evening Maquis |
| 04:14.04 | Maquis | evening |
| 04:14.17 | dataw0lf- | mheath: Not a problem, I'm not trying to be an arse or anything, just some advice bro. |
| 04:14.53 | Maquis | fast connections are kinda nice when installing gentoo |
| 04:15.07 | mheath | I installed Slackware earlier today |
| 04:15.14 | mheath | and installed Enlightenment DR17 |
| 04:15.50 | mheath | I'm basking in the animated-desktop-background, utterly-beautiful-yet-very-lightweight goodness |
| 04:16.07 | mheath | Only deskstop shell that supports animated backgrounds |
| 04:29.36 | tene | the thing is, it's not the "animated" part that's really interesting |
| 04:29.46 | tene | anyone can tell mplayer to render to the root window |
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| 05:02.38 | levi_ | Maquis: Back in Utah? |
| 05:02.57 | Maquis | levi_: yeah |
| 05:03.03 | levi_ | Cool. :) |
| 05:03.11 | levi_ | And I'm back at school. |
| 05:03.23 | levi_ | Well, back in school. I'm not really 'at' it. |
| 05:03.31 | Maquis | fun |
| 05:03.43 | levi_ | My classes this term should be cool. |
| 05:04.07 | levi_ | I'm not sure what to think about this 'Head First Design Patterns' book, though. |
| 05:04.18 | levi_ | Heh. |
| 05:05.02 | Maquis | levi_: on one of the amazon mailing-lists, they were discussing the value of "head first java", and it sounded like most people thought it was reasonably good... not sure what that means, though |
| 05:05.15 | Supaplex | netcat is the awesomest www agent. |
| 05:05.48 | levi_ | Well, the authors seem to be very bright, and the content is good. It's just that the presentation is very... different. :) |
| 05:06.34 | levi_ | Supaplex: Yeah, 'cause what better tool to parse HTTP and HTML than the HUMAN BRAIN?! |
| 05:07.29 | Supaplex | yup |
| 05:07.30 | levi_ | Supaplex: Personally, I generate raw ethernet frames in a hex editor to send off my request via a special low-level device driver. |
| 05:07.42 | levi_ | Supaplex: TCP/IP stacks are for wussies! |
| 05:07.47 | Supaplex | yeh! |
| 05:08.41 | Supaplex | this is so like a bash.org conversation. problem is, 98% of the population won't get the joke :) |
| 05:08.55 | levi_ | Sometimes, when I really want to feel manly, I key in the data via the front panel of my computer. It's not a real computer without a front panel, with lights and switches. |
| 05:09.44 | Supaplex | origional altair switches baby! |
| 05:09.45 | levi_ | Teletypes and CRTs are for pansies. |
| 05:10.33 | RyanE | you have *lights*? I have to key it in on the switches, and figure out what the register settings are by listening to the AM radio next to my computer. |
| 05:10.56 | RyanE | lights are for pretty-boys |
| 05:10.57 | levi_ | I tried to get a plugboard, but they're hard to find outside of museums. |
| 05:11.27 | levi_ | RyanE: Nah, lights are great. You're just a neanderthal. |
| 05:11.48 | RyanE | true, and true. :) |
| 05:12.28 | levi_ | Damn, I think I just lost a vacuum tube! |
| 05:13.34 | levi_ | This is how real men programmed: http://www.tietokonemuseo.saunalahti.fi/eng/kytken_eng.htm |
| 05:14.34 | levi_ | That was to get everything set up for the mentally-deficient punched-card programmers who couldn't hack the patchboard. ;) |
| 05:17.03 | Supaplex | euuu frontpage web |
| 05:19.29 | levi_ | Well, the source can't be any more tangled than the plugboards pictured on the site. :) |
| 05:19.54 | Supaplex | fitting choice hehe |
| 05:22.28 | RyanE | I recognize the top one for the IBM 444. I believe it's the plugboard version of Donkey Kong. |
| 05:30.50 | goozbach | note to self: jumping out of a moving vechile = bad idea |
| 05:32.25 | goozbach | what was I thinking??? |
| 05:37.15 | Supaplex | it's your brain, you tell us |
| 05:38.54 | levi_ | goozbach: You jumped out of a moving vehicle?! |
| 05:39.18 | levi_ | It's funny reading stuff from the mid-90s. |
| 05:48.17 | levi_ | Heh, this article is so full of bogosity it's funny: http://www.acm.org/crossroads/xrds10-4/firstlang.html |
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| 05:56.43 | levi_ | Heh, it looks like it's primarily based on a paper that Damian Conway co-authored. |
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| 06:06.15 | levi_ | It's kind of ironic that a guy who did research on a language called 'Genuinely Readable and Intuitive Language' is so keen on Perl. :) |
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| 06:15.31 | goozbach | levi_: yup and it really fouled me up |
| 06:15.51 | levi_ | What really fouled you up? |
| 06:19.30 | goozbach | the road |
| 06:19.41 | goozbach | when I jumped |
| 06:20.01 | levi_ | Now, why did you jump from a moving vehicle? Some woman died recently doing that. |
| 06:25.07 | goozbach | i was being dumb |
| 06:26.35 | JoshH | Supaplex: you around? |
| 06:26.57 | levi_ | goozbach: Like when you irc while driving? ;) |
| 06:32.38 | goozbach | yeah |
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| 06:41.35 | levi_ | Gah, I need to sleep. |
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| 06:43.29 | g4lt-mordant | is xbmodder banned for a reason? |
| 06:45.03 | Newsome | you mean, other than being xbmodder? |
| 06:45.55 | g4lt-mordant | Newsome, yeah, he's under the impression that it was related to the joinflood that the ircd migration caused |
| 06:46.17 | Newsome | that I wouldn't know. Sorry. |
| 06:48.06 | Newsome | looks like he's in the ban list with the same date/time as a number of others, so that might be the correct explanation |
| 06:48.13 | Supaplex | JoshH: yea |
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| 07:19.07 | goozbach | <PROTECTED> |
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| 07:31.31 | xbmodder | yay! |
| 07:31.38 | xbmodder | happy to see me again guys? |
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| 08:24.37 | bonez39 | Hhhhh: howdy |
| 08:24.48 | bonez39 | how does one execute a script? |
| 08:25.30 | g4lt-mordant | sh foo.sh |
| 08:25.50 | bonez39 | ok.... |
| 08:39.10 | goozbach | or chmod +x foo.sh |
| 08:39.13 | goozbach | and ./foo.sh |
| 08:49.06 | Hhhhh | hello |
| 08:49.08 | Hhhhh | bye! |
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| 13:07.24 | decriptor | is it too early to ask a c++ programming questions |
| 13:08.06 | decriptor | its obvious its too early for me to type |
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| 13:19.13 | graphyx | morning all. |
| 13:19.22 | graphyx | er.. I just mean Al. |
| 13:19.25 | graphyx | Morning Al! |
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| 15:10.55 | Maquis | anyone here that can help me with a gentoo question? |
| 15:11.05 | vontrapp | i can try |
| 15:11.31 | Maquis | i'm mid-install, and i know that there's an option for this, but man isn't working yet |
| 15:11.51 | Maquis | so, i'm trying to get portage to think that a certain package is installed already |
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| 15:12.10 | vontrapp | for why? |
| 15:12.17 | Maquis | i'm thinking it's either -i or -I, but i can't figure out which |
| 15:13.10 | Maquis | vontrapp: I want it to install the docs for most things, but i want it to skip the java docs because they're being stupid, so i was just going to make it think that they're already there... |
| 15:14.00 | Maquis | oh... wait... i just found it in emerge --help |
| 15:14.09 | Maquis | sorry vontrapp |
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| 15:14.44 | vontrapp | well, there's -O (--nodeps) |
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| 15:18.00 | vontrapp | so has anyone else experienced the lack of ability to paste a url to the content pane in the newest firefox? |
| 15:18.52 | emcnabb | it works for me (on 1.0.6) |
| 15:19.36 | vontrapp | emcnabb: what distro? |
| 15:22.44 | emcnabb | FC4 |
| 15:27.12 | Jayce^ | 1.0.6 working on mac for me |
| 15:27.38 | dataw0lf | haven't had a problem like that. |
| 15:27.42 | dataw0lf | 1.0.6 on Ubuntu |
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| 15:32.12 | vontrapp | odd |
| 15:32.19 | vontrapp | wonder why mine breaks |
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| 15:48.01 | sjansen | http://www.smh.com.au/news/breaking/linux-fracas-not-the-main-game-rms/2005/08/25/1124562965358.html |
| 15:48.31 | sjansen | So when it's about RMS getting credit, it's an important issue. When it's about someone else controlling the Linux name, it's not important? |
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| 15:51.51 | levi_ | sjansen: Yeah, that sounds like pretty much what he said, except he says his fuss was about focusing on freedom instead of his ego. :) |
| 15:57.09 | graphyx | SO are there any wiki developed that follow the Clark-Wilson Security architecture? |
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| 16:13.35 | levi_ | What's the Clark-Wilson Security architecture? |
| 16:14.29 | levi_ | Heh, cool term: resume' driven architecture - choosing the tools for your project based on how experience with them will look on your resume' |
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| 16:15.00 | graphyx | IT entails separation of duties, and access to the pages are only allowed through applications that check for access control and integrity of the files themselves. |
| 16:15.43 | levi_ | I'm not sure such a thing would truly have the wiki-nature. |
| 16:15.56 | graphyx | perhaps some work in the way basically, but don't have a full feature set |
| 16:19.58 | levi_ | Reading some slides about it suggests that it really wouldn't be a wiki if it followed that architecture fully. |
| 16:20.08 | levi_ | It'd just be a CMS. |
| 16:20.13 | graphyx | fair enouhg. |
| 16:21.14 | graphyx | It's Jean valJean!!! |
| 16:21.19 | graphyx | You stole the bread!! |
| 16:21.21 | graphyx | off to jail! |
| 16:21.47 | vontrapp | ~ruler ValJean |
| 16:21.50 | ibot | ACTION slaps ValJean's wrists with a ruler |
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| 16:38.51 | levi_ | Heh. I love Dinosaur Comics. |
| 16:39.03 | levi_ | http://www.qwantz.com/ |
| 16:39.28 | Jayce^ | w00t! Cabela's now open |
| 16:40.09 | levi_ | Yeah, I drove by it on the freeway yesterday. It's got a big 'NOW OPEN' sign. |
| 16:40.17 | graphyx | What si cabela |
| 16:40.18 | graphyx | ? |
| 16:40.20 | levi_ | They sure expanded that frontage road. |
| 16:40.37 | levi_ | graphyx: Big outdoors outfitting type store. |
| 16:40.45 | graphyx | like REI? |
| 16:40.51 | levi_ | graphyx: Geared more towards huntin'/fishin' than REI. |
| 16:40.55 | graphyx | k |
| 16:40.55 | Jayce^ | levi_, they have to |
| 16:41.23 | levi_ | graphyx: Meaning it will be vastly more popular around here. |
| 16:42.16 | Jayce^ | they also make the store a huge exhibit so you can bring a family there for hours, and have fun |
| 16:42.36 | levi_ | It's supposed to become the second-biggest tourist attraction in the state. |
| 16:42.46 | levi_ | Like we need the traffic on I-15! |
| 16:42.50 | RyanE | I'm just glad they made my exit two lanes all the way past the busy traffic because of Cabela's. |
| 16:42.53 | Jayce^ | especially there |
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| 16:43.27 | levi_ | I-15 south of the point of the mountain just SUCKS. |
| 16:43.44 | Jayce^ | in terms of positioning, it is excellent for them.. |
| 16:43.49 | Jayce^ | for commuting, it sucks |
| 16:44.08 | levi_ | It's probably good for Thanksgiving Point, too. |
| 16:44.16 | Jayce^ | the 9-18th will be the worst, big activities going that week |
| 16:44.18 | levi_ | Maybe they'll actually make money now. |
| 16:44.28 | Jayce^ | levi_, oh yeah, a couple hotels have already bought property |
| 16:45.01 | levi_ | Ahh, urban sprawl. |
| 16:46.08 | levi_ | In 30 years, we'll have solid city from Ogden to Spanish Fork. |
| 16:46.38 | g4lt-mordant | levi_, not if the explosives manufactureres have any say in the matter ;P |
| 16:47.05 | levi_ | Eventually, they will not have any say in the matter. |
| 16:47.27 | g4lt-mordant | levi_, I was thinking of the truck that went boom |
| 16:47.30 | xbmodder | It appears that a Microsoft worker returning from overseas brought back a case of Measles with them. |
| 16:48.03 | xbmodder | can we give microsoft the plague? |
| 16:48.27 | levi_ | g4lt-mordant: Sure, but they'll eventually be forced to move to a more remote location. |
| 16:48.52 | RyanE | even with houses from Ogden to Spanish Fork, the trojan plant is still out of the way... |
| 16:49.21 | RyanE | I'm sure the neighbors whose windows get blown out every 5-6 years are used to it by now. :) |
| 16:49.42 | xbmodder | ogden spanish fork? trojan plant? |
| 16:50.05 | xbmodder | ooohh pretty ogden |
| 16:50.06 | ValJean | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:50.17 | levi_ | xbmodder: Don't worry about it, you dirty Californian. |
| 16:50.44 | vontrapp | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:51.22 | xbmodder | who names their city spanish fork? |
| 16:51.40 | vontrapp | who names their city Ash? |
| 16:51.51 | xbmodder | couldn't they come up with something cool like poking french people with a fork |
| 16:51.58 | levi_ | Who names themselves 'xbmodder'? |
| 16:52.02 | xbmodder | ash names his city ash :) |
| 16:52.33 | RyanE | the spanish friars were the first white people to discover the valley, and they discovered it from just up the mouth of the canyon in Spanish Fork. |
| 16:55.33 | levi_ | Wow, some guys in the next row over are holding a box of about 180 $400 computer chips. It's like carrying around bars of gold, except much lighter. |
| 16:56.04 | Bradipo_ | And those chips won't keep their $400 for as long either. |
| 16:56.33 | levi_ | Nope. But for now, that's a /lot/ of money. |
| 16:56.52 | Bradipo | I would rather have 180 oz of gold. |
| 16:57.29 | levi_ | Sure, but we're certainly not intending to keep the chips for long. |
| 16:57.38 | Bradipo | Until they change the phrase ``as good as gold'' to ``as good as memory chips.'' :-) |
| 16:57.58 | Bradipo | THat is an impressive amount of memory to be sure. |
| 16:58.01 | Bradipo | How big are they? |
| 16:58.06 | Bradipo | Er, how much capacity. |
| 16:58.13 | levi_ | We also have a bunch of Opteron 852s. Those are some amazingly expensive CPUs. |
| 16:58.16 | RyanE | I'd rather have the cold, hard cash. Anyone? |
| 16:58.24 | levi_ | They aren't memory chips, they're high-speed interconnect chips. |
| 16:58.37 | Bradipo | RyanE: I would rather have 180 oz of gold over $78k. |
| 16:58.54 | Bradipo | levi_: My bad for assuming it was ram. |
| 16:58.58 | RyanE | if I wanted to *keep* it, I probably would as well. :) |
| 16:59.33 | Bradipo | Ahh, if its spending we're after, then sure. |
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| 16:59.36 | levi_ | The 852s are worth something like $1100 each, but we don't have nearly as many of them. |
| 16:59.42 | Bradipo | I'll spend the money on 180oz of gold thank you very much. :-) |
| 17:00.06 | Bradipo | That's some serious hardware. |
| 17:00.36 | levi_ | Especially considering they're made for 4- and 8-way configurations. |
| 17:00.46 | levi_ | So you don't use just one! |
| 17:01.27 | levi_ | What's really crazy are 4GB sticks of RAM. |
| 17:02.56 | levi_ | Apparently we called up some supplier who listed a 4GB part. They said sure, they had designs for them, but they'd never built them before because no one was yet willing to pay the exorbitant price. |
| 17:03.33 | graphyx | That's funny. |
| 17:04.16 | levi_ | So, while low-end computers are amazingly fast and cheap compared to where low-end computers were in the past, high-end computers are still ridiculously expensive. :) |
| 17:04.40 | levi_ | Thank goodness for economies of scale. |
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| 17:13.55 | xbmodder | swami: hey |
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| 17:16.24 | lars-ut | I just tanked a Linux Networx technical interview over the phone. |
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| 17:16.43 | emcnabb_ | so are we going to see mheath and xbmodder go at it again today? |
| 17:16.54 | lars-ut | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:17.42 | lars-ut | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:19.45 | levi_ | lars-ut: Aww. What position were you trying for? |
| 17:20.06 | lars-ut | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:20.07 | levi_ | We need a good Java programmer, if anyone is interested. |
| 17:20.33 | emcnabb | lars-ut, that stinks :-( |
| 17:20.53 | lars-ut | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:21.30 | lars-ut | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:21.57 | lars-ut | :) |
| 17:22.01 | levi_ | Who did you interview with? |
| 17:22.44 | lars-ut | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:23.00 | lars-ut | can't remember his last name - it was rapid-fire. |
| 17:23.54 | levi_ | Hmm. I don't know either of them. We're a lot bigger than we used to be. |
| 17:23.55 | lars-ut | I was impressed with the questions. netowrking & kernel stuff. George knew what he was talking about. |
| 17:24.12 | levi_ | I used to know everyone. |
| 17:24.15 | lars-ut | wow. |
| 17:24.34 | lars-ut | ~emulate MS Bitters |
| 17:24.35 | ibot | The lesson here is that dreams inevitably lead to hideous implosions. |
| 17:24.59 | vontrapp | ~emulate gir |
| 17:25.00 | ibot | must obey the taco man! |
| 17:25.06 | lars-ut | lol |
| 17:25.17 | levi_ | I mostly just know the EE guys and the software teams. |
| 17:28.17 | emcnabb | levi_, what do you do there? |
| 17:28.37 | levi_ | I work on the firmware for cluster management devices. |
| 17:28.50 | emcnabb | cool |
| 17:30.09 | levi_ | Yeah, it's pretty cool. It's mostly working with embedded linux and C. Mostly userspace work, though I've done some simple kernel drivers. |
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| 17:31.18 | Bradipo | If you ever have to deal with RFC 2317 delegations for in-addr.arpa make sure you use - instead of / |
| 17:31.29 | Bradipo | That way you can have nifty web pages like: http://16.16-28.45.70.166.in-addr.arpa/ |
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| 17:32.09 | Bradipo | And cool email addresses like bradipo@16.16-28.45.70.166.in-addr.arpa |
| 17:33.09 | levi_ | Bradipo: That's just evil. |
| 17:33.20 | emcnabb | very |
| 17:33.35 | graphyx | levi be careful calling people/ things since your name is an anagram for evil!!! |
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| 17:33.57 | graphyx | That should be put in the !levi listing.. ;) |
| 17:33.58 | Bradipo | I think I'll start subscribing to things using that address. :-) |
| 17:34.10 | graphyx | I prefer whatever@mailinator.com |
| 17:34.19 | graphyx | since i don't have to worry about it. |
| 17:34.28 | Bradipo | That's not as easy to remember as 16.16-28.45.70.166.in-addr.arpa though. |
| 17:34.29 | levi_ | graphyx: Not to mention vile and live. |
| 17:34.36 | graphyx | yeah... |
| 17:34.42 | graphyx | veil. |
| 17:34.48 | graphyx | That one doesn't fit in with the rest.. |
| 17:34.56 | levi_ | And ivel. |
| 17:35.06 | graphyx | ~define ivel |
| 17:35.14 | levi_ | Doesn't mean anything, but at least you can pronounce it. |
| 17:35.27 | graphyx | ibot doesn't have a built in dictionary yet? |
| 17:35.35 | levi_ | Mmm, time for lunch. |
| 17:36.10 | vontrapp | ~dict ivel |
| 17:36.26 | graphyx | ~dict dictionary |
| 17:36.43 | graphyx | I don't know why they would have that one listed in a dictionary. |
| 17:36.53 | graphyx | If you don't know what a dictionary is why would you look in one for the definition? |
| 17:39.29 | vontrapp | someone who has a dictionary and doesn't know it's called a dictionary nor what the word dictionary means |
| 17:39.54 | lars-ut | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:40.09 | Bradipo | By the way, I am hearing reports that Internet Explorer cannot handle that URL... Can someone with IE confirm for me? |
| 17:41.13 | lars-ut | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:41.18 | graphyx | sounds like a feature to me... |
| 17:41.33 | Bradipo | graphyx: Works fine in Firefox. |
| 17:41.42 | graphyx | I mean its a benefit. |
| 17:41.49 | graphyx | Makes people have to use firefox to be in the club.. ;) |
| 17:42.03 | graphyx | it's a really hacker-ish thing to do.. |
| 17:42.39 | graphyx | Like having a quit statement that has a string that some irc clients don't display properly and/or crash... |
| 17:42.41 | Bradipo | Aha, an unforseen benefit. |
| 17:42.42 | Bradipo | I like it. |
| 17:42.48 | graphyx | yeah.. |
| 17:42.55 | lars-ut | lunchtime for me too then. |
| 17:45.28 | ValJean | Didn't work for me in firefox. |
| 17:46.19 | Bradipo | ValJean: Firefox in Winders? |
| 17:46.26 | graphyx | double score!!! |
| 17:46.30 | graphyx | j/k. |
| 17:46.36 | graphyx | VAlJean doesn't use winders. |
| 17:46.53 | vontrapp | it only works in windows? |
| 17:46.57 | ValJean | Ubuntu Hoary Linux |
| 17:47.08 | Bradipo | Well, so far it only works for me in my browser. :-) |
| 17:47.20 | graphyx | do you have a hosts entry that you haven't told us about? |
| 17:47.24 | Bradipo | Nope. |
| 17:47.25 | Bradipo | Its in my DNS. |
| 17:47.36 | Bradipo | Try: dig 16.16-28.45.70.166.in-addr.arpa |
| 17:47.39 | vontrapp | well, i get a not found error |
| 17:47.43 | Bradipo | You should get an answer. |
| 17:47.49 | graphyx | so we would have to query your dns server to get access to your stuff then? |
| 17:47.58 | Bradipo | graphyx: No, your browser does that for you. |
| 17:48.12 | vontrapp | that is, domain not found, not page not found |
| 17:48.18 | dataw0lf | http://kevan.org/brain.cgi?dataw0lf |
| 17:48.57 | graphyx | Bradipo: doesn't ever give it an ip address to use... |
| 17:49.03 | graphyx | can't browse, can't ping |
| 17:49.10 | Bradipo | I wonder if BIND is the culprit... |
| 17:49.10 | graphyx | I did the dig, but no ip addr is returned. |
| 17:49.20 | graphyx | it found .arpa |
| 17:49.38 | ValJean | ; QUESTION SECTION: |
| 17:49.38 | ValJean | ;16.16-28.45.70.166.in-addr.arpa. IN A |
| 17:49.38 | ValJean | ;; AUTHORITY SECTION: |
| 17:49.38 | ValJean | 16-28.45.70.166.in-addr.arpa. 1820 IN SOA a.ns.bradfordfamily.org. hostmaster.16-28.45.70.166.in-addr.arpa. 1125076721 16384 2048 1048576 2560 |
| 17:50.02 | Bradipo | Oops. |
| 17:50.05 | Bradipo | Operator error. :-) |
| 17:50.23 | Bradipo | I forgot to run make to rebuild my DNS information... |
| 17:50.26 | graphyx | which operator? |
| 17:50.30 | Bradipo | Me. |
| 17:50.36 | graphyx | fair nuf.. |
| 17:50.43 | graphyx | I think there are a few operators around here.. |
| 17:50.44 | ValJean | ah, yes, works better with PTR requests |
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| 17:50.47 | Bradipo | Ok. |
| 17:50.56 | Bradipo | I just updated the DNS so it should work now. :-) |
| 17:51.15 | vontrapp | nope |
| 17:51.18 | Bradipo | Well, after your negative caching timer expires. |
| 17:51.28 | graphyx | it should work after DNS propagiation does.. |
| 17:51.30 | Bradipo | But at least I know solved it. |
| 17:52.04 | Bradipo | There is a TTL on an NXDOMAIN too. |
| 17:52.21 | Bradipo | So it will be a few minutes before it shows up, but now I do believe it will work in Windows and everywhere. |
| 17:52.32 | Bradipo | Given that it was admin error... |
| 17:52.48 | ValJean | dig @166.70.45.18 16.16-28.45.70.166.in-addr.arpa |
| 17:52.52 | ValJean | sure enough, it's there |
| 17:53.16 | Bradipo | Yeah. |
| 17:53.18 | Bradipo | I goofed. |
| 17:53.21 | Bradipo | As I said. |
| 17:53.23 | ValJean | Never seen an A for an in-addr.arpa before. |
| 17:54.02 | Bradipo | It will work fine enough once people's caches expire the negative caching. |
| 17:54.03 | Bradipo | ValJean: Why not? It's just another domain like google.com or yahoo.com. |
| 17:54.34 | ValJean | Honestly? Never thought about using it for anything other than PTR. |
| 17:55.06 | Bradipo | I think I'll use it when I sign up for newsletters and promotions and such. |
| 17:55.36 | vontrapp | what does it do? |
| 17:55.42 | Bradipo | Just another website. :-) |
| 17:56.03 | Bradipo | Maybe I'll make it instructional to help people understand how screwed up in-addr.arpa really is. |
| 17:56.19 | Bradipo | Think of it this way... |
| 17:57.06 | Bradipo | If you had a domain google.com, how would you delegate 256 unrelated host names (i.e. a.google.com, b.google.com, c.google.com, etc...) to another NS? |
| 17:57.20 | Bradipo | That's basically all that in-addr.arpa is. |
| 17:59.49 | RyanE | Bradipo: if no-one answered you if it works in IE, it seems to work fine in IE. |
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| 18:00.57 | Bradipo0 | Did I miss anything? |
| 18:01.47 | graphyx | yeah.. sjansen got hacked by a quadaeligic script kiddie with a mouthstick and a 5 year old copy of programming perl for dummies.. |
| 18:01.57 | Bradipo0 | wow |
| 18:02.44 | Bradipo0 | is ther an irc client for palm/treo? |
| 18:02.50 | ValJean | yup |
| 18:03.08 | Bradipo0 | irc on tussh isn't the greatest. |
| 18:03.11 | ValJean | upIRC |
| 18:03.24 | ValJean | also not great, but useable |
| 18:03.34 | Bradipo0 | is ther a .prc? |
| 18:03.57 | Bradipo0 | or do I have to load from desktop (lame) |
| 18:05.42 | ValJean | All I'm finding is a .zip; I just beamed it from a co-worker. |
| 18:06.40 | Bradipo0 | Hmm. That's what I don't like about palm... |
| 18:06.59 | ValJean | yeah |
| 18:07.00 | Bradipo0 | Always have to download to desktop first. |
| 18:07.35 | goozbach | Bradipo0: I use pssh to connect to an Irssi screen session |
| 18:07.44 | goozbach | it seems to work well |
| 18:08.06 | Bradipo0 | I wonder if pssh works on Treo... |
| 18:08.20 | goozbach | yup |
| 18:08.24 | goozbach | that's where I use it |
| 18:08.52 | Bradipo0 | I'm using tussh right now and the scrolling screws uo a lot. |
| 18:17.47 | hans | ~lart vontrapp |
| 18:17.57 | vontrapp | ~tart hans |
| 18:18.06 | vontrapp | ~crumpet hans |
| 18:18.07 | ibot | ACTION shoves a crumpet down hans's throat, happy now?! Huh? Want some JAM with that! |
| 18:18.07 | ValJean | ~fart hans |
| 18:18.09 | ibot | ACTION farts in hans's general direction |
| 18:18.17 | vontrapp | ~dart hans |
| 18:18.27 | graphyx | ~cart vontrapp |
| 18:18.36 | vontrapp | ~wart graphyx |
| 18:18.43 | graphyx | ~start ibot |
| 18:19.03 | vontrapp | ~hart hans |
| 18:19.17 | vontrapp | ~part seas |
| 18:19.25 | graphyx | ~mart k |
| 18:19.26 | vontrapp | ibot: lamer |
| 18:19.27 | ibot | lamer is probably a guy who loves geek girls, or the only 28 year old child genius in the world. someone who cant spell lamer, or a person who is generally lame, often also a troll. |
| 18:20.04 | vontrapp | lunchtime |
| 18:20.07 | vontrapp | ~lunchtime |
| 18:20.08 | ibot | lunchtime is, like, in the immortal words of Douglas Adams, time is a myth -- lunchtime doubly so |
| 18:20.51 | graphyx | hey, that would be a herasey from Douglas Adams, he wrote wrote the book about god's holy sandwitch maker.. |
| 18:25.11 | xbmodder | lol |
| 18:25.16 | xbmodder | ~sandwich |
| 18:25.18 | ibot | sandwich is probably a peculiar type of food generally comprised of two or more slices of bread with various condiments, meats, and vegetables in between them. |
| 18:30.08 | xbmodder | Free iTunes With Purchase of Fruits and Vegetebles |
| 18:30.26 | xbmodder | http://www.gearlive.com/blogimages/itunessaladfruit.jpg |
| 18:31.55 | xbmodder | tim flooding? |
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| 18:45.19 | ValJean | ~lart Jayce^ |
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| 19:28.03 | Jayce^ | ~threaten ValJean |
| 19:28.10 | emcnabb | Jayce^ is a dork |
| 19:28.22 | Jayce^ | ~beat emcnabb |
| 19:28.23 | ibot | ACTION beats emcnabb with a large stick. |
| 19:28.33 | emcnabb | ~whaleslap Jayce^ |
| 19:28.35 | ibot | ACTION slaps Jayce^ upside and over the head with one freakishly huge killer whale named hugh |
| 19:28.50 | Jayce^ | got anything useful to say emcnabb? |
| 19:29.02 | Jayce^ | or you just wasting bandwidth? |
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| 19:29.06 | emcnabb | not really |
| 19:29.12 | Jayce^ | figured as much |
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| 19:29.16 | *** kick/#utah [emcnabb!n=Jayce_@pollux.northsky.com] by Jayce^ (Jayce^) |
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| 19:29.33 | emcnabb | dang you Jayce^! |
| 19:30.05 | Jayce^ | so cabelas is quite nice... |
| 19:30.12 | *** part/#utah sjansen (n=sjansen@class1-nat.gurulabs.com) |
| 19:30.17 | Jayce^ | Venison Brat + chili + cheese |
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| 19:31.26 | sjansen | You know, I love Ruby, but I'm discovering REXML isn't as bullet proof as I need. |
| 19:31.47 | emcnabb | uh oh |
| 19:31.51 | Jayce^ | what's up? |
| 19:32.02 | sjansen | I'm thinking about switching to perl and using the libxslt bindings instead. |
| 19:32.29 | sjansen | Problem is, after using Ruby it's hard to go back to programs that look like line noise. |
| 19:33.23 | Jayce^ | sjansen, so learn to program correctly |
| 19:34.21 | *** kick/#utah [sjansen!n=Jayce_@pollux.northsky.com] by Jayce^ (Jayce^) |
| 19:34.34 | Jayce^ | immortalize *that* :) |
| 19:36.11 | emcnabb | now we see the violence inherent in the system... |
| 19:37.51 | levi_ | Jayce^: I came across some of Damian Conway's early research on GRAIL yesterday. |
| 19:38.11 | lars-ut | help!help! I'm being repressed! |
| 19:38.53 | Jayce^ | oh? |
| 19:39.28 | lars-ut | Just couldn't resist responding to emcnabb |
| 19:42.51 | levi_ | Jayce^: Are you familiar with GRAIL at all? |
| 19:43.44 | emcnabb | ~lart Jayce^ |
| 19:43.55 | emcnabb | thanks ibot, that was perfect |
| 19:44.53 | levi_ | Stands for 'Genuinely Readable and Intuitive Language', and it looks absolutely nothing like Perl 5. |
| 19:45.26 | levi_ | Though it's expressly designed as a 'throw-away' pedagogical language for absolute beginner programmers. |
| 19:47.09 | levi_ | They (he was the secondary author on most of these papers) did some studies with an introductory programming course for non-majors where they offered the choice of both Logo and GRAIL. Apparently the GRAIL people had fewer syntax errors in their programs. |
| 19:47.44 | levi_ | It was hard to draw many solid conclusions from it, though, since it wasn't a very tightly controlled study. |
| 19:49.11 | levi_ | Anyway, I think their ideas were pretty sound, and their conclusions followed pretty well from their starting premises, but their ' |
| 19:49.55 | levi_ | 'Seven deadly sins of introductory programming language design' paper had some premises I didn't agree with. |
| 19:53.50 | Maquis | ok... here's an odd question |
| 19:54.02 | Maquis | and i'm sure that it's something i ought to know already |
| 19:54.04 | Maquis | but i don't |
| 19:54.22 | Maquis | i can get internet (kind-of... really slow) from one computer over wireless... |
| 19:54.41 | Maquis | i need internet on another computer (in the middle of installing gentoo) |
| 19:55.33 | Maquis | how would i go about routing internet access through one computer to the other? |
| 19:56.28 | sjansen | Cool. Samba 4 will include embedded Heimdal Kerberos. |
| 19:56.48 | levi_ | What OS is the computer getting internet running? |
| 20:00.02 | Jayce^ | levi, about the most I knew of it was it was a previous research project.. not much beyond that |
| 20:01.12 | levi | After reading those papers, I get the impression that it was Damian's influence that got unicode operators in perl 6. |
| 20:02.52 | Maquis | levi: both running linux |
| 20:02.54 | Maquis | well.. |
| 20:02.56 | Jayce^ | should look at autrujis tang too, he's been one of the main drivers with unicode in perl 5/6 |
| 20:03.02 | Maquis | 1 running linux, the other half-running linux |
| 20:03.18 | Jayce^ | je's the lead on pugs |
| 20:03.34 | levi | Jayce^: I wasn't specifically looking for Damian stuff or Perl-related stuff, I just happened across it while following references in a paper I thought was lame. |
| 20:04.15 | levi | Making Perl handle unicode is a pretty obvious thing. Actually using unicode in the syntax is not such an obvious win. |
| 20:05.44 | lars-ut | sjansen: ever read 'The Bishop's Silver'? |
| 20:07.01 | sjansen | I'll assume you aren't talking about the chapter in Le Miz. |
| 20:07.20 | lars-ut | I am. |
| 20:07.29 | sjansen | In that case, yes. |
| 20:07.37 | lars-ut | Funny I thought it was a short story as well, though. |
| 20:08.14 | lars-ut | I remember reading it in 8th grade as its own story - your alt nick reminded me of it. |
| 20:09.05 | sjansen | It isn't unusual for textbooks to extract and include parts of a book. |
| 20:09.55 | sjansen | Le Miz is a great book. |
| 20:09.59 | lars-ut | I still haven't seen Les Miserables performed - I've only seen the movie. |
| 20:10.22 | sjansen | Although Cosette wasn't all that, and Marius was an idiot. |
| 20:11.07 | vontrapp | Maquis: on the internet computer, install ferm |
| 20:11.50 | vontrapp | then make a file called something like nat.ferm |
| 20:12.09 | vontrapp | in which you put: |
| 20:12.12 | vontrapp | option iptables |
| 20:12.17 | vontrapp | option clearall |
| 20:12.22 | vontrapp | option createchains |
| 20:12.34 | vontrapp | table nat chain POSTROUTING { |
| 20:12.50 | vontrapp | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:12.52 | vontrapp | } |
| 20:14.33 | lars-ut | sjansen: I still like Neeson's screen presence - in everything I've seen him in. Geoffrey Rush was good, too. I liked Rush in shine also. |
| 20:14.48 | vontrapp | are the filter policies necessary as well? e.g. chain FORWARD policy ACCEPT; ? |
| 20:16.59 | vontrapp | Maquis: got that yet/ |
| 20:17.03 | goozbach | typo and all |
| 20:17.20 | Jayce^ | so goozbach, the 3rd? |
| 20:24.17 | *** kick/#utah [sjansen!n=Jayce_@pollux.northsky.com] by Jayce^ (Jayce^) |
| 20:24.19 | Jayce^ | :) |
| 20:25.05 | lars-ut | Jayce is drunk with power. |
| 20:25.14 | lars-ut | go ahead |
| 20:25.25 | lars-ut | I know that boot is itchin' |
| 20:25.52 | lars-ut | ...waiting to kick another. |
| 20:26.07 | vontrapp | ~attack ja |
| 20:26.08 | ibot | ACTION grabs a pen, screams like she's possessed, and begins chasing ja |
| 20:26.18 | vontrapp | um, ok |
| 20:26.27 | lars-ut | ~jedi Jayce |
| 20:26.28 | ibot | ACTION chops off Jayce's head with her lightsaber |
| 20:26.29 | Jayce^ | c'mon, hasn't everybody here wanted to kick sjansen at some point? |
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| 20:26.43 | vontrapp | ~pickle sjansen |
| 20:26.55 | sjansen | ~tickle vontrapp |
| 20:26.59 | ibot | ACTION jumps on vontrapp, yelling "TICKLE FIGHT!!!!" |
| 20:27.11 | lars-ut | ~bodyslam sjansen |
| 20:27.12 | ibot | ACTION enrolls sjansen for spring training with the Green Bay Packers as a tackle dummy |
| 20:36.16 | lars-ut | Happy Friday y'all! |
| 20:39.39 | Bradipo | Ok, I was wrong. It was simply a DNS caching issue. IE can view http://16.16-28.45.70.166.in-addr.arpa/ |
| 20:40.27 | sjansen | http://britneyspears.ac/lasers.htm |
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| 21:08.21 | Peregrine | Hello, all. |
| 21:10.11 | tene | rawr |
| 21:10.30 | vontrapp | mrwar |
| 21:18.23 | Supaplex | m00 |
| 21:18.41 | goozbach | b00b! |
| 21:19.54 | hans | ~prey Peregrine |
| 21:26.40 | *** join/#utah spr (n=spr@128.187.223.232) |
| 21:32.37 | Peregrine | ~pray hans |
| 21:33.08 | sjansen | ~jump Peregrine |
| 21:34.21 | sjansen | ibot, jump $goozbach is <action> scrambles up the nears tree, screams, then leaps feet first toward $goozbach |
| 21:34.23 | ibot | sjansen: okay |
| 21:34.24 | sjansen | ~jump Peregrine |
| 21:34.26 | ibot | ACTION scrambles up the nears tree, screams, then leaps feet first toward Peregrine |
| 21:34.52 | sjansen | ibot, no jump $goozbach is <action> scrambles up the nearest tree, screams, then leaps feet first on top of $goozbach |
| 21:34.53 | ibot | sjansen: okay |
| 21:34.56 | sjansen | ~jump Peregrine |
| 21:34.57 | ibot | ACTION scrambles up the nearest tree, screams, then leaps feet first on top of Peregrine |
| 21:36.47 | vontrapp | ~snowball $sjansen is stuffs $sjansen in a hamster ball and rolls it down a steep snow covered mountain |
| 21:36.48 | ibot | ACTION launches a snowball tightly compressed with little shards of ice at $sjansen is stuffs $sjansen in a hamster ball and rolls it down a steep snow covered mountain |
| 21:37.06 | vontrapp | darn, already something else |
| 21:37.34 | sjansen | that's okay, you missed a comma anyway |
| 21:37.59 | vontrapp | oh you should talk, sjansen |
| 21:38.03 | sjansen | ~roll vontrapp |
| 21:38.22 | vontrapp | ~jump $goozback ~= s/nearest/nears/ |
| 21:38.23 | ibot | ACTION scrambles up the nearest tree, screams, then leaps feet first on top of $goozback ~= s/nearest/nears/ |
| 21:38.42 | sjansen | ibot, roll $vontrapp is stuffs $vontrapp in a hamster ball and rolls it down a steep, snow-covered mountain |
| 21:38.44 | ibot | sjansen: okay |
| 21:38.48 | sjansen | ~roll vontrapp |
| 21:38.49 | ibot | stuffs vontrapp in a hamster ball and rolls it down a steep, snow-covered mountain |
| 21:47.12 | vontrapp | ~bonsai $sjansen is <action> places $sjansen in a worcesterschire sauce bottle and displays it on the mantlepiece |
| 21:47.14 | ibot | okay, vontrapp |
| 21:47.20 | vontrapp | ~bonsai sjansen |
| 21:47.22 | ibot | ACTION places sjansen in a worcesterschire sauce bottle and displays it on the mantlepiece |
| 21:47.59 | vontrapp | ~no roll $vontrapp is <action> stuffs $vontrapp in a hamster ball and rolls it down a steep, snow-covered mountain |
| 21:48.00 | ibot | okay, vontrapp |
| 21:52.09 | levi | Gah, there's another Levi in Plug? |
| 21:55.27 | Maquis | Peregrine: sup? |
| 21:55.42 | Maquis | vontrapp: sorry... i disappeared for a bit... |
| 21:58.51 | Peregrine | Hey, Maquis. Just working on some stuff :). |
| 21:59.21 | vontrapp | Maquis: after you set up that ferm file, just run sudo ferm <file> |
| 21:59.56 | vontrapp | then as root: echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward |
| 22:00.30 | vontrapp | and on the natted computer, set the route to the address of the connected computer |
| 22:00.50 | Maquis | Peregrine: cool... :) |
| 22:01.02 | Maquis | vontrapp: i was hoping it was easier |
| 22:01.31 | vontrapp | it's not so hard |
| 22:02.08 | vontrapp | once you have that nat.ferm file, just create a script you can run with sudo to enable forwarding and load the ferm |
| 22:02.18 | vontrapp | then set the route on the clientside computer |
| 22:02.43 | Maquis | and hopes that the internet will be up tomorrow |
| 22:02.46 | vontrapp | ~stripe Maquis |
| 22:03.10 | vontrapp | gah, there's too many verbs ibot doesn't know |
| 22:07.33 | mrpull | Mister? |
| 22:07.43 | mrpull | I wonder if he is a relative |
| 22:08.05 | levi | Maquis: Damn, if the internet isn't up, how am I seeing this web page, and how is IRC working?! |
| 22:09.19 | vontrapp | Maquis is pretending to be the internet while it's down, feeding you everything she wants you to think, feel, be, know |
| 22:09.49 | vontrapp | better install mindgaurd |
| 22:10.26 | vontrapp | of course, you'd just download it from Maquis and it will be a b0rked version designed to weaken your mind for even easier control |
| 22:11.30 | levi | Maybe she's a solipsist, and we're really all figments of her imagination. |
| 22:13.23 | vontrapp | i don't want to be a figment, can i be a phantom instead? |
| 22:19.48 | levi | What, you got something against figments? |
| 22:20.02 | levi | And you'd have to ask Maquis, since she made us all up. |
| 22:27.26 | levi | Don't blame us. It's all in your head! |
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| 22:37.52 | *** mode/#utah [+o ibot] by ChanServ |
| 22:39.12 | vontrapp | ~wb |
| 22:39.14 | ibot | It's great to be back! |
| 22:42.16 | sjansen | invoke goozbach |
| 22:42.25 | *** join/#utah jebar (n=jebarlow@2.wencor.com) |
| 22:42.46 | goozbach | didn't work |
| 22:43.05 | Maquis | ~goo |
| 22:43.06 | ibot | rumour has it, goo is goozbach |
| 22:43.13 | Maquis | goozbach: what didn't work? |
| 22:43.26 | vontrapp | you look invoked to me |
| 22:43.32 | *** part/#utah Newsome (n=sorenson@obelix.cs.byu.edu) |
| 22:45.09 | goozbach | it's supposed to send me an SMS message to my phone |
| 22:45.37 | vontrapp | ~invoke goozbach |
| 22:45.38 | tene | send you an sms message to your phone? |
| 22:45.49 | tene | as opposed to sending sjansen and sms message to your phone? |
| 22:45.54 | tene | s/and/an/ |
| 22:46.12 | sjansen | revoke tene |
| 22:46.40 | goozbach | vontrapp: I'm researching an irc notivication solution |
| 22:46.41 | tene | aww... I typo'd my invocation away |
| 22:48.32 | vontrapp | too bad cell phone companies like to rape you for text messaging |
| 22:50.05 | tene | All I know is that we all have unlimited SMS here. |
| 22:50.12 | tene | And send all of our alerts out over SMS. |
| 22:50.35 | emcnabb | Quote of the day (Linus): "An infinite number of monkeys typing into GNU emacs would never make a good program." |
| 22:50.58 | vontrapp | lol |
| 22:56.59 | vontrapp | lol |
| 22:57.04 | vontrapp | stupid mouse |
| 23:03.10 | Peregrine | It's really really REALLY too bad that we are not having this conversation on IRC. |
| 23:06.08 | Peregrine | Of course, if we were, then no one else on IRC would be able to type for about 10 minutes. |
| 23:07.14 | goozbach | raido controlled even |
| 23:07.21 | goozbach | er radio |
| 23:08.21 | *** join/#utah jebar (n=jebarlow@2.wencor.com) |
| 23:08.39 | jebar | hans: try sametime |
| 23:18.15 | Peregrine | Well, gotta reboot for some testing, later all. |
| 23:23.56 | xbmodder | hm I hate commisions |
| 23:25.55 | goozbach | hmm I need a simple mail sending perl module... |
| 23:25.58 | goozbach | any suggestions |
| 23:26.17 | spr | pipe to sendmail? |
| 23:26.30 | goozbach | that could work |
| 23:27.19 | xbmodder | http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,122324,00.asp < hasn't linux had this for years? |
| 23:27.41 | xbmodder | like tar? |
| 23:28.12 | xbmodder | how old is tar? |
| 23:28.12 | xbmodder | or rsync? |
| 23:30.23 | *** part/#utah TimRiker (n=timr@pdpc/supporter/bronze/TimRiker) |
| 23:30.52 | xbmodder | mheath, you there? |
| 23:30.52 | xbmodder | ~seen mheath |
| 23:30.58 | ibot | mheath is currently on #utah |
| 23:31.12 | xbmodder | anyone here play ET? |
| 23:33.25 | hans | the nintendo game? back when I was a little kid |
| 23:34.12 | mheath | xbmodder, Yes, I'm here. |
| 23:38.42 | xbmodder | mheath, I made about ~182 dollars from that google trade so far |
| 23:40.07 | xbmodder | Can I have 39679 |
| 23:46.33 | tene | goozbach: MIME::Lite |
| 23:54.24 | xbmodder | goozbach, Sockets? |
| 23:59.40 | *** join/#utah xbmodder (i=nobody@unaffiliated/xbmodder) |
