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| 00:13.51 | Maquis | w00t! |
| 00:16.31 | bigdog_ut | nice |
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| 02:03.10 | bucky | ~seen vontrapp |
| 02:03.11 | ibot | vontrapp is currently on #utah (10h 44m 52s). Has said a total of 61 messages. Is idling for 7h 9m 57s |
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| 03:59.38 | roscivs | Any cool tricks to kill processes that won't die? |
| 04:04.07 | Maquis | roscivs: at work someone said that if they won't die with kill -9 and they're in D state, then you automatically have hardware, kernel or filesystem problems (NFS problems being included in there)... is that true? i wasn't sure... it fits a bit with my experience, but i wasn't sure whether to believe it or not |
| 04:04.43 | roscivs | I know if it's in a D state and you can't kill -9 it then it will probably never die |
| 04:04.51 | roscivs | (don't know about hardware etc. problems though) |
| 04:04.51 | Maquis | yeah |
| 04:04.54 | roscivs | but this isn't in a D state |
| 04:04.59 | Maquis | what state is it in? |
| 04:05.02 | roscivs | it's R |
| 04:05.07 | roscivs | i don't know what R means tho |
| 04:05.07 | Maquis | what's that? |
| 04:05.25 | roscivs | and it's taking up 100% CPU which is kinda annoying |
| 04:06.11 | Maquis | ouch |
| 04:06.16 | Maquis | can you foreground it? |
| 04:06.21 | Maquis | what is it, btw? |
| 04:06.26 | roscivs | rpm --erase |
| 04:06.29 | roscivs | and no, tried that. |
| 04:06.49 | roscivs | or at least I tried stopping the process, I assume that's what you mean by foregrounding it |
| 04:06.50 | Maquis | rpm --erase? is that like emerge -C? uninstall the program? |
| 04:06.55 | roscivs | yeah |
| 04:07.06 | roscivs | it's been going for about 15 minutes now though |
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| 04:29.14 | levi | Good evening. |
| 04:29.36 | roscivs | Hmph. Not with my CPU at 100%. I'm about to have to reboot. |
| 04:30.12 | levi | Uh oh. |
| 04:30.16 | levi | Runaway program? |
| 04:30.20 | roscivs | Yeah. |
| 04:30.24 | roscivs | Do you know what R means? |
| 04:30.27 | roscivs | (As opposed to D.) |
| 04:30.32 | levi | Running, I believe. |
| 04:30.40 | roscivs | Hm. Well, it's definitely that. |
| 04:30.49 | roscivs | Unfortunately I haven't been able to kill it. |
| 04:32.12 | levi | kill -9 has no effect? |
| 04:32.18 | roscivs | none at all. |
| 04:32.24 | goozbach | see which file-descriptors it has open |
| 04:32.33 | roscivs | How do I ago about doing that? |
| 04:32.42 | roscivs | lsof? |
| 04:32.43 | goozbach | ls -l /proc/<pid>/fd |
| 04:33.10 | goozbach | you may be able to put it into a D state |
| 04:33.25 | roscivs | lrwx------ 1 root root 64 Aug 19 22:32 0 -> /dev/pts/7 (deleted) |
| 04:33.25 | roscivs | lrwx------ 1 root root 64 Aug 19 22:32 1 -> /dev/pts/7 (deleted) |
| 04:33.25 | roscivs | lrwx------ 1 root root 64 Aug 19 21:48 2 -> /dev/pts/7 (deleted) |
| 04:33.25 | roscivs | lrwx------ 1 root root 64 Aug 19 22:32 3 -> /var/lib/rpm/Packages |
| 04:33.25 | roscivs | lrwx------ 1 root root 64 Aug 19 22:32 4 -> /var/lib/rpm/Basenames |
| 04:33.26 | roscivs | lrwx------ 1 root root 64 Aug 19 22:32 5 -> /var/lib/rpm/Name |
| 04:33.28 | roscivs | lrwx------ 1 root root 64 Aug 19 22:32 6 -> /var/lib/rpm/__db.000 |
| 04:33.30 | roscivs | lrwx------ 1 root root 64 Aug 19 22:32 7 -> /var/lib/rpm/Triggername |
| 04:33.34 | goozbach | which is better than R and 100%cpu |
| 04:33.55 | roscivs | (it's rpm, in case you couldn't tell by the files it has open) |
| 04:33.59 | goozbach | yup |
| 04:34.28 | goozbach | you don't want to erase Packages Basename Name and Triggername |
| 04:34.32 | goozbach | hmmmm |
| 04:34.40 | roscivs | probably not. |
| 04:34.49 | goozbach | mv /var/lib/rpm to elsewhere |
| 04:35.02 | goozbach | that MAY cause the process to enter D state |
| 04:35.17 | goozbach | which will free up your cpu |
| 04:35.19 | roscivs | no such look. |
| 04:35.22 | roscivs | er, luck |
| 04:35.33 | roscivs | it just moved the file descriptor. |
| 04:35.49 | roscivs | i think i'll just bite the bullet and restart. |
| 04:36.00 | goozbach | well what I'm suggesting is just a stopgap till you can find a clean time to reboot |
| 04:36.07 | goozbach | so bite away |
| 04:36.10 | roscivs | Only 6 days of uptime to destroy. *sigh* |
| 04:36.37 | goozbach | before you do run an strace on it |
| 04:36.42 | goozbach | see what it's doing |
| 04:36.48 | roscivs | how do you run an strace on a process that's already going? |
| 04:36.59 | goozbach | -p <pid> methinks |
| 04:37.11 | roscivs | i think you're right |
| 04:37.19 | roscivs | it's not saying anything though |
| 04:37.27 | roscivs | ]# strace -p 32744 |
| 04:37.27 | roscivs | Process 32744 attached - interrupt to quit |
| 04:37.34 | roscivs | nothing else. |
| 04:37.42 | goozbach | hmm |
| 04:38.10 | goozbach | well it doesn't seem to be broken in any diagnoseable way |
| 04:38.29 | goozbach | it's too bad you can't preempt it.... |
| 04:38.42 | goozbach | you don't by chance have sysrq enabled do you? |
| 04:38.52 | roscivs | nope |
| 04:38.57 | roscivs | bbiaf |
| 04:39.20 | goozbach | man that sounds like a fun one to debug |
| 04:39.32 | goozbach | and I mean that. |
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| 04:45.49 | roscivs | Back in business. |
| 04:45.55 | goozbach | reboot then? |
| 04:46.04 | roscivs | yup. |
| 04:46.15 | goozbach | you'll want to erase your rpm caches |
| 04:46.19 | roscivs | Strange thing is that it shut down just fine ... |
| 04:46.31 | roscivs | and the rpm database was fine as well. |
| 04:46.44 | goozbach | the files __000.db |
| 04:47.19 | goozbach | then do a rpm --rebuilddb |
| 04:48.08 | goozbach | er that's __db.000 |
| 04:48.16 | roscivs | heh, yeah, i got'em. |
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| 04:57.24 | levi | Oops. |
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| 05:11.13 | xbmodder | anyone wanna trade for orkut/gmail/webs/shell space |
| 05:11.21 | xbmodder | servers? |
| 05:11.23 | xbmodder | DNS hosting |
| 05:11.25 | xbmodder | etc. |
| 05:11.45 | roscivs | as in you're looking for those things or you have excess of them to trade with others? |
| 05:11.58 | Maquis | what do you want in return |
| 05:13.30 | Maquis | i know there's a gmail fs... is it possible to set it up so you can combine a couple of gmail accounts into a larger fs? |
| 05:13.50 | Maquis | cuz that'd be pretty sweet |
| 05:22.51 | xbmodder | hmm |
| 05:22.55 | xbmodder | that'd be fun |
| 05:23.01 | xbmodder | well in theory you could |
| 05:23.10 | xbmodder | is gmail FS still limited to 10MB files?\ |
| 05:23.37 | xbmodder | Hmm, does anyone here know how to make more loopback devices? |
| 05:26.17 | xbmodder | like ~200 |
| 05:26.17 | xbmodder | like ~200*50 |
| 05:26.17 | xbmodder | lol |
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| 16:07.57 | bonez39 | I am trying to find a content management solution, for updating a site....any favorites with you all? |
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| 17:18.56 | levi | bonez39: Seen opensourcecms.com?j |
| 17:19.49 | levi | bonez39: Drupal is the only one I've tried personally, and it seems to work fairly well. |
| 17:27.46 | bonez39 | levi: I'll check it out.... |
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| 17:53.40 | xbmodder | phpWS |
| 17:53.48 | xbmodder | thats what Tajay Inc. uses |
| 17:53.59 | xbmodder | *Tajay restaurants Inc. |
| 17:54.11 | xbmodder | They are a multi-million dollar chain |
| 18:09.04 | xbmodder | hey any XHTML gods in here |
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| 19:08.20 | Maquis | ~lart byronc |
| 19:14.32 | byronc | what did I do? |
| 19:20.35 | xbmodder | ~dict flirt |
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| 20:03.30 | levi | Mmmm, food. |
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| 21:56.41 | ibot | vontrapp <n=von@67.137.24.232> was last seen on IRC in channel #utah, 1d 3h 3m 27s ago, saying: 'away i go...'. |
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| 22:56.47 | xbmodder_lappy | What do you guys like better? |
| 22:56.54 | xbmodder_lappy | Diet coke or pepsi one? |
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