| 00:00.27 | vontrapp | is that possible? |
| 00:01.03 | Lone_Wanderer | he goes over things like installing cygwin, adding a few things to the registry to make it behave more Linux-like, and whatnot |
| 00:02.54 | vontrapp | never did find any |
| 00:03.16 | vontrapp | you'd think they'd have some generic usbprinter driver or something |
| 00:03.57 | Lone_Wanderer | that would be cool |
| 00:04.03 | Lone_Wanderer | but all the USB printers would have to abide by it |
| 00:05.25 | vontrapp | they pretty much are all generic anyway, with some special options for each, they just use .ppd driver files with different options in lunux |
| 00:05.30 | vontrapp | s/lunux/linux/ |
| 00:09.15 | vontrapp | ~ppd |
| 00:09.15 | ibot | ppd is, like, postscript printer description. See http://www.linuxprinting.org, or the docs for lpr, lprng, pdq, cups, or whatever the hell printing system you use. |
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| 00:13.14 | mheath | Wow. Not using a computer for half a month can make a big difference. It feels unnatural typing. |
| 00:15.41 | Lone_Wanderer | heathen |
| 00:20.09 | goozbach | burn him!!! |
| 00:20.28 | goozbach | mheath: you arent dead yet? |
| 00:20.47 | xbmodder | TimRiker, hey! |
| 00:20.54 | xbmodder | ~duel goozbach |
| 00:21.15 | xbmodder | !fight goozbach |
| 00:21.38 | xbmodder | <xbmodder> !fight goozbach xbmodder |
| 00:21.39 | xbmodder | <mhartebot> xbmodder: goozbach: 123, xbmodder: 58 |
| 00:21.48 | xbmodder | +10 points to xbmodder for originality |
| 00:21.48 | xbmodder | :) |
| 00:21.53 | xbmodder | !limiter |
| 00:22.17 | sjansen | ~torch mheath |
| 00:22.17 | ibot | ACTION sets mheath on fire. |
| 00:22.28 | sjansen | ~botsnack |
| 00:22.28 | ibot | sjansen: :) |
| 00:23.06 | goozbach | ~punk xbmodder |
| 00:23.30 | xbmodder | is ibot broken? |
| 00:23.54 | xbmodder | ~lart goozbach for killing ibot |
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| 00:24.38 | xbmodder | !fight xbmodder ibot |
| 00:24.42 | mhartebot | xbmodder: ibot: 31900, xbmodder: 58 |
| 00:25.21 | xbmodder | !translate english to german hello, goozbach you suck! |
| 00:25.23 | mhartebot | xbmodder: Error: <chars to translate> must be the same length as <chars to replace those with>. |
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| 00:26.08 | xbmodder | !babelize english german hello, goozbach you suck! |
| 00:26.10 | mhartebot | xbmodder: hallo, goozbach, das Sie saugen! |
| 00:26.18 | xbmodder | !babelize english hello Uncle_Jesse |
| 00:26.20 | mhartebot | xbmodder: Error: "'hello'" is not a valid language. Valid languages include Chinese_simple, Chinese_traditional, Dutch, English, French, German, Greek, Italian, Japanese, Korean, Portuguese, Russian, and Spanish |
| 00:26.35 | xbmodder | !babelize english portuguese hello Utah_Dave |
| 00:26.36 | mhartebot | xbmodder: hello Utah_Dave |
| 00:26.40 | Maquis | !fight maquis xbmodder |
| 00:26.43 | xbmodder | lol |
| 00:26.44 | mhartebot | Maquis: maquis: 98000, xbmodder: 58 |
| 00:26.49 | xbmodder | shit |
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| 00:27.09 | sjansen | ~fry Maquis |
| 00:27.09 | ibot | ACTION grabs Maquis and fries him on his BFCooker9000 |
| 00:27.11 | xbmodder | you got yourself alotta stalkers. |
| 00:27.17 | xbmodder | !lart Maquis |
| 00:27.18 | mhartebot | xbmodder: Error: There are no larts in my database for #utah. |
| 00:27.57 | mheath | http://www.pswreg.com/images/DAY05/Bravo/8.jpg B Co. > * |
| 00:28.00 | Maquis | haha |
| 00:28.09 | Maquis | !fight maquis emcnabb |
| 00:28.13 | mhartebot | Maquis: maquis: 99500, emcnabb: 75 |
| 00:28.23 | Maquis | w00t |
| 00:28.24 | xbmodder | !lart Maquis |
| 00:28.25 | Maquis | ! |
| 00:28.45 | xbmodder | http://www.maquis.com/ |
| 00:28.52 | xbmodder | !lart Maquis |
| 00:28.53 | sjansen | ~silence mhartebot |
| 00:28.53 | ibot | ACTION shoves an apple in mhartebot's mouth, shoves a spit through ... well, uhm, anyway ... then builds a nice fire and starts roasting |
| 00:30.47 | xbmodder | !add kills $who by slicing them up with AOL CDs |
| 00:30.47 | mhartebot | xbmodder: Error: The command add is available in the Lart, News, and RSS plugins. Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before add. |
| 00:30.55 | xbmodder | !Lart add kills $who by slicing them up with AOL CDs |
| 00:30.57 | mhartebot | xbmodder: The operation succeeded. Lart #1 added. |
| 00:31.44 | Utah_Dave | hey, xbmodder and mhartebo |
| 00:31.52 | xbmodder | mhartebot, |
| 00:32.03 | xbmodder | !say hey Utah_Dave |
| 00:32.04 | mhartebot | hey Utah_Dave |
| 00:33.01 | mhartebot | bring us to your leader utah_dave |
| 00:33.20 | Utah_Dave | he he |
| 00:33.30 | Utah_Dave | all your base are mine! |
| 00:33.50 | xbmodder | !actor jessica simpson |
| 00:33.53 | mhartebot | xbmodder: Newlyweds - Nick & Jessica - The Complete Second and Third Seasons (DVD), rated NR (Not Rated); released 07 June, 2005; published by Paramount Home Video; price: $18.74, D.E.B.S. (Special Edition) (DVD), rated PG-13 (Parental Guidance Suggested); released 07 June, 2005; published by Columbia Tristar Hom; price: $18.72, Newlyweds - Nick & Jessica - The First Season (DVD), rated (3 more messages) |
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| 00:37.10 | xbmodder | !train |
| 00:37.11 | mhartebot | xbmodder: (train [<channel>] <language> <glob>) -- Trains the bot to recognize text similar to that contained in the files matching <glob> as text of the language <language>. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent in the channel itself, and then only if supybot.databases.plugins.channelSpecific is True. |
| 00:37.59 | xbmodder | !train english Trains the bot to recognize text similar to that contained in the files matching <glob> as text of the language <language>. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent in the channel itself, and then only if supybot.databases.plugins.channelSpecific is True. |
| 00:37.59 | mhartebot | xbmodder: (train [<channel>] <language> <glob>) -- Trains the bot to recognize text similar to that contained in the files matching <glob> as text of the language <language>. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent in the channel itself, and then only if supybot.databases.plugins.channelSpecific is True. |
| 00:38.03 | just-easy | c'mon controll me :D |
| 00:38.12 | xbmodder | .smoke burn |
| 00:38.12 | just-easy | Unknown Command burn |
| 00:38.17 | xbmodder | .smoke help |
| 00:38.17 | just-easy | Unknown Command help |
| 00:38.20 | xbmodder | .smoke List |
| 00:38.20 | just-easy | Unknown Command List |
| 00:38.25 | xbmodder | .smoke access |
| 00:38.25 | just-easy | You have NO Admin Rights |
| 00:38.31 | xbmodder | .smoke admin |
| 00:38.32 | just-easy | Unknown Command admin |
| 00:38.39 | xbmodder | .smoke kick leave |
| 00:38.39 | just-easy | Command rejected. Access Denied. |
| 00:38.51 | xbmodder | .smoke say I am to sexy for my nick |
| 00:38.52 | just-easy | Command rejected. Access Denied. |
| 00:39.07 | CHRiSNEW | .smoke say garck me down |
| 00:39.08 | just-easy | garck me down |
| 00:42.13 | xbmodder | !channelstats |
| 00:42.14 | mhartebot | xbmodder: Error: I've never been on #utah. |
| 00:42.43 | goozbach | hans, Jayce^??? |
| 00:42.54 | xbmodder | !monologue |
| 00:42.55 | mhartebot | xbmodder: Your current monologue is at least 1 line long. |
| 00:43.13 | xbmodder | !supa1337 hey goozbach sup? |
| 00:43.15 | mhartebot | xbmodder: |-|3y gooz|>/-\<|-| $|_|p? |
| 00:44.02 | xbmodder | !sha xbmodder |
| 00:44.03 | mhartebot | xbmodder: ca17aa1ffe7e9f376c2f0e9905d056b754341fc0 |
| 00:44.20 | CHRiSNEW | !md5 gack |
| 00:44.21 | goozbach | what frameworks are these bots running? |
| 00:44.23 | mhartebot | CHRiSNEW: 5feeb78404fdee9f6a13078aae46a760 |
| 00:44.34 | xbmodder | goozbach, mine is running supybot |
| 00:44.46 | xbmodder | I would have used my own but I lost it *cry* |
| 00:45.05 | CHRiSNEW | lol and my's running with my own engine ;) |
| 00:45.20 | goozbach | well I've wanted a reason to learn python |
| 00:45.24 | xbmodder | CHRiSNEW is from germany though. |
| 00:45.54 | *** part/#utah CHRiSNEW (n=chrisnew@p54AB6B02.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 00:45.59 | goozbach | just so you're aware the blatant botspamming of this channel isn't looked on to favorablly |
| 00:46.11 | *** join/#utah CHRiSNEW (n=chrisnew@p54AB6B02.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 00:46.15 | CHRiSNEW | wrong tab |
| 00:46.16 | CHRiSNEW | ^_^ |
| 00:46.18 | goozbach | just so you're aware the blatant botspamming of this channel isn't looked on to favorablly |
| 00:47.02 | xbmodder | uhhh |
| 00:47.03 | xbmodder | :-/ |
| 00:47.04 | goozbach | personally I don't mind, but the consensus of the channel at large is a bit different |
| 00:47.30 | xbmodder | !cyborg goozbach |
| 00:47.32 | mhartebot | xbmodder: G.O.O.Z.B.A.C.H.: General Organism Optimized for Zealous Battle/Artificial Cybernetic Humanoid |
| 00:47.34 | xbmodder | !leave #utah |
| 00:47.35 | mhartebot | xbmodder: Error: "leave" is not a valid command. |
| 00:47.41 | xbmodder | uh-oh |
| 00:47.47 | goozbach | !part #utah |
| 00:47.47 | xbmodder | how do I make it leave? |
| 00:47.48 | mhartebot | goozbach: Error: You don't have the admin capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified. |
| 00:47.52 | CHRiSNEW | rofl^_^ |
| 00:47.53 | xbmodder | lol |
| 00:48.05 | goozbach | !admin goozbach |
| 00:48.06 | mhartebot | goozbach: Error: You don't have the admin capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified. |
| 00:48.07 | xbmodder | I'll leave it here. |
| 00:48.11 | CHRiSNEW | i can easly quit my bot ;) |
| 00:48.16 | goozbach | !part #utah |
| 00:48.17 | mhartebot | goozbach: Error: You don't have the admin capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified. |
| 00:48.19 | xbmodder | lmao |
| 00:49.11 | CHRiSNEW | ACTION test |
| 00:49.18 | CHRiSNEW | lol^_^ |
| 00:49.39 | xbmodder | goozbach, sup? |
| 00:50.09 | goozbach | I think the only reason ibot is still around is the fact that some think her the channel's maskcot |
| 00:50.37 | xbmodder | I did |
| 00:50.38 | goozbach | I'm in PHO sitting on my duff waiting for a female-freind of mine to call me |
| 00:50.59 | just-easy | blöb |
| 00:51.16 | xbmodder | i wonder how Ibot would look if she was real |
| 00:51.34 | xbmodder | very crazy |
| 00:51.55 | goozbach | xbmodder: she'd be 6'6" 240lbs, built like a brick s**t house and she'd kick the crap out of you... |
| 00:51.59 | goozbach | :) |
| 00:52.50 | CHRiSNEW | .smoke quit |
| 00:52.51 | just-easy | Received the Command to Quit |
| 00:53.39 | goozbach | or she'd be a dainty 5'9" 125lbs with long blonde hair that falls below her buttocks, and deep blue eyes you could just drown in... |
| 00:53.42 | goozbach | er ... |
| 00:54.19 | *** join/#utah just-easy (n=just-eas@p54AB6B02.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 00:54.22 | just-easy | hi all |
| 00:54.35 | just-easy | yeah i'm connected from a tty console ;D |
| 00:56.25 | CHRiSNEW | .smoke time |
| 00:56.26 | just-easy | The Time is now Tue Aug 16 02:56:20 2005 |
| 00:56.41 | CHRiSNEW | ^_^ |
| 00:57.47 | just-easy | ACTION idles |
| 00:57.51 | xbmodder | goozbach, have you been dreaming about ibot again? |
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| 00:58.25 | xbmodder | goozbach, why not red hair? |
| 00:58.47 | goozbach | not ibot... |
| 00:58.56 | xbmodder | maybe |
| 00:59.12 | CHRiSNEW | .smoke quit - you dumb bot^_^ |
| 00:59.12 | just-easy | Received the Command to Quit |
| 00:59.38 | goozbach | jayce, maquis and a few others know who now, however. |
| 01:00.06 | goozbach | well not jayce because he didn't see that last statement |
| 01:00.28 | goozbach | 6pm |
| 01:00.43 | goozbach | good time to leave |
| 01:00.54 | CHRiSNEW | 6pm? |
| 01:01.00 | CHRiSNEW | we've 3am ^_^ |
| 01:01.28 | xbmodder | ~time |
| 01:01.28 | ibot | it has been said that time is 1 dimensional, or everlasting, or an illusion |
| 01:01.34 | xbmodder | !time |
| 01:01.35 | mhartebot | xbmodder: Error: "time" is not a valid command. |
| 01:01.54 | CHRiSNEW | .smoke time - my bot'd answer the current time in my timezone |
| 01:02.22 | xbmodder | .smoke time |
| 01:03.10 | mheath | Uh. |
| 01:03.17 | mheath | Is it just me, or do we have too many bots in here now? |
| 01:03.54 | CHRiSNEW | i don't want to compare my irc client with a irc bot^_^ but it's the same |
| 01:05.25 | CHRiSNEW | he came, he saw and he lagged out |
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| 01:08.40 | CHRiSNEW | :fungus!n=fungus@2001:470:1f00:645:20a:95ff:fec5:636a QUIT :"All done here." |
| 01:08.40 | CHRiSNEW | he's got ipv6? nice |
| 01:10.11 | CHRiSNEW | .smoke quit - sucking up the famd |
| 01:10.11 | just-easy | Received the Command to Quit |
| 01:22.03 | xbmodder | mhartebot, only two |
| 01:22.03 | mhartebot | xbmodder: Error: "only" is not a valid command. |
| 01:22.10 | xbmodder | mheath, , only two |
| 01:22.15 | xbmodder | !nickometer mheath |
| 01:22.16 | mhartebot | xbmodder: The "lame nick-o-meter" reading for "mheath" is 0.0%. |
| 01:33.50 | xbmodder | !nickometer kryp71k|w_ |
| 01:33.50 | mhartebot | xbmodder: The "lame nick-o-meter" reading for "kryp71k|w_" is 45.2%. |
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| 04:16.42 | hans | ~seen jsmith |
| 04:16.43 | ibot | jsmith <n=jsmith@64.50.35.114.2O7.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #utah, 5h 25m 57s ago, saying: 'sjansen: Order room service, sleep until the food gets there... you can make up on lost money, but not on lost sleep...'. |
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| 05:04.00 | Maquis | ~ruler goozbach |
| 05:04.00 | ibot | ACTION slaps goozbach's wrists with a ruler |
| 05:04.43 | Maquis | goozbach: what do jayce and i know how to do? |
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| 05:43.49 | levi | Yay, the development version of my lisp blog server now allows comments, and the system remembers your info and only asks the anti-spam question once. |
| 05:44.34 | levi | Now I need to write some administrative stuff so I can delete/edit entries and comments from a web interface, and I can put it on my live server. |
| 06:51.50 | xbmodder | hey |
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| 14:20.13 | hans | ~lart us dept of education |
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| 14:28.04 | *** mode/#utah [+o Jayce^] by ChanServ |
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| 14:46.31 | Jayce^ | http://www.thinkgeek.com/pvp/swag/7906/ gotta have it |
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| 14:49.19 | jsmith | hans: I liked what you sent me last night, but have you checked out AEL? |
| 14:50.11 | jsmith | hans: http://www.astricon.net/asterisk1-2/img14.shtml |
| 14:50.41 | jsmith | Jayce^: I like it... I'd buy one, but I'm not into wearing rubber bracelets... |
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| 14:52.12 | hans | jsmith: interesting. is that inside asterisk? It looks like the same idea but still syntactically challenged |
| 14:54.30 | jsmith | hans: Yes, and yes. |
| 14:54.55 | jsmith | hans: Another option (if you're using -HEAD) is to use the #exec function. |
| 14:55.16 | jsmith | hans: It will execute an external program, and then read in the result and use it as its dialplan. |
| 14:55.44 | hans | well it's good to see something better coming down the pipeline. I see it has control structures. turing complete, I guess? |
| 14:55.45 | jsmith | hans: So you could write your dialplan in the language of your choice, and then convert it back into either of the syntactically challenged formats :-) |
| 14:56.13 | jsmith | hans: Well, I'm not sure its turning complete... it is a step in the right direction, I think. |
| 14:56.40 | jsmith | It reminds me of the day I went from programming in BASIC to Pascal... |
| 14:56.49 | hans | definitely. how about AGI support, is that improving? AGI is cool but has limitations |
| 14:57.07 | hans | if it weren't for the limitations I'd just use AGI for all my dialplan needs |
| 14:58.18 | jsmith | AGI support doesn't seem to be changing anytime soon -- but luckily there are some fairly nice wrappers out there for a variety of languages. |
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| 15:03.20 | hans | well I wrote me up a nice ruby one, not hard, but the limitations make it limited usefulness |
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| 15:11.10 | mheath | jsmith: what a fine day that must have been =P |
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| 15:18.01 | statik | holy crap |
| 15:18.24 | statik | this channel doesnt' take no for an answer; evertime I come here there's more people. |
| 15:20.57 | jsmith | mheath: Yeah, but that was a while ago... |
| 15:26.37 | levi | statik: More lurking idlers. ;) |
| 15:27.10 | statik | levi, appearantly :) |
| 15:27.16 | statik | Well that's cool. |
| 15:27.41 | vontrapp | i was going to say, the number of nicks has been in the low forties for some time now |
| 15:28.11 | statik | man, it seems like there was ten or so when I first dropped by myself. |
| 15:28.37 | statik | What ever happened to harleypig? |
| 15:28.41 | statik | I think that was the nick he used |
| 15:28.49 | vontrapp | whe pops in occasionally |
| 15:28.59 | statik | Ahh. |
| 15:29.00 | vontrapp | doesn't lurk like others |
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| 16:03.19 | goozbach | lurk |
| 16:03.23 | goozbach | lurk! |
| 16:03.29 | goozbach | lurk!!! |
| 16:06.23 | statik | vontrapp: I see one!!! i see one!!! |
| 16:06.34 | vontrapp | ~lurk goozbach |
| 16:06.34 | ibot | ACTION slinks in the shadows following goozbach |
| 16:07.37 | goozbach | and really goes back to lurking |
| 16:08.14 | statik | Gets class started... |
| 16:08.19 | statik | goozbach: teacher are you? |
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| 16:24.26 | hans | wow, the only dave in utah! |
| 16:24.37 | statik | :0 |
| 16:25.00 | dataw0lf | perhaps not the only one. |
| 16:25.05 | dataw0lf | But the most important. |
| 16:29.20 | Utah_Dave | you all make me feel so good! jk |
| 16:31.18 | hans | you just haven't been here long enough |
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| 16:36.27 | Maquis | mheath: how was training? |
| 16:36.35 | Maquis | goozbach: what class and where?? |
| 16:39.10 | mheath | Maquis: decent. |
| 16:39.18 | mheath | Tough. |
| 16:39.44 | hans | http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=vi&word2=emacs# |
| 16:47.14 | levi | http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=vim&word2=emacs |
| 16:47.52 | mheath | STUPID RAIN |
| 16:48.01 | hans | wonderful rain |
| 16:48.06 | mheath | I just bought some new camera film. Kodak Ultra Color too, expensive stuff |
| 16:48.18 | mheath | rain leaked into my bag and got it all wet though |
| 16:48.26 | mheath | I hope its still good.... |
| 16:48.41 | levi | Oops. |
| 16:49.04 | levi | Doesn't film still come in those plastic containers? |
| 16:49.04 | mheath | over $11 for 3 rolls. |
| 16:49.29 | levi | Or is it something other than 35mm film? |
| 16:49.40 | mheath | levi: ah, good point. I haven't opened the package, I was just pissed off because I was looking at the soaked package. |
| 16:49.55 | levi | I think your investment is probably safe. |
| 16:50.10 | mheath | I'm looking forward to working with this film. |
| 16:50.21 | mheath | I haven't used Kodak's Ultra Color line before |
| 16:51.07 | hans | levi: I noticed that. :) It's obviously a straight-up google popularity thing |
| 16:51.19 | hans | vim takes xemacs easy :) |
| 16:51.34 | mheath | man, I'm going to have to go back to walmart too |
| 16:51.48 | mheath | I got a planner and didn't notice that it starts in January 2006 |
| 16:52.14 | levi | hans: All of which demonstrates that it's mostly just a fun toy and not a particularly useful research tool. :) |
| 16:53.27 | levi | hans: Nevertheless, you could post it to plug and start another flamewar, if you wanted. |
| 16:54.05 | hans | speaking of flamewars, this claims they're good for learning: http://headrush.typepad.com/creating_passionate_users/2005/08/the_smackdown_l.html |
| 16:55.15 | levi | (Yes, there's a big assumption here that the learner already understands the fundamentals behind the different viewpoints.) |
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| 16:55.28 | mheath | No, thats not defending flamewars |
| 16:55.34 | mheath | Thats defending intelligent debate |
| 16:55.34 | levi | That's a quote from the article, from those that didn't read it. |
| 16:55.56 | jsmith | levi: And that they're their willing to follow logical arguments... |
| 16:56.08 | hans | mheath: so smackdown is an example of intelligent debate |
| 16:56.28 | levi | jsmith: Yeah, that helps. :) |
| 16:56.30 | hans | the point is, you have a logical confrontation and people have to think about both povs |
| 16:56.55 | hans | i admit flamewars don't precisely fit the bill, but there's potential there. :) |
| 16:57.18 | hans | as an example, poor kimball who unwittingly started the flamewar took a look at rails as a result |
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| 17:09.57 | levi | hans: I think prerequisites for a successful 'smackdown learning' session include, as has been mentioned, knowledge of all the fundamentals by all parties involved (debaters and audience), willingness to follow logical arguments, and the gong mechanism mentioned to prevent personal attacks. |
| 17:11.17 | levi | hans: The plug flamewar missed several important parts of that. Particularly open-minded individuals could still extract useful information from it, but it's surely not an ideal teaching tool. |
| 17:12.21 | hans | agreed |
| 17:14.14 | jsmith | Since when has the PLUG list been a teaching tool? I thought it was a group therapy session... |
| 17:14.29 | vontrapp | lol |
| 17:15.09 | vontrapp | "I've been using emace for... three months" *hang head* |
| 17:15.54 | hans | ~smackdown vontrapp |
| 17:16.20 | levi | vontrapp: Is emace some sort of electronic pepper spray? |
| 17:16.43 | vontrapp | "I... I try to quit, but the macros just trap me" |
| 17:16.57 | levi | vontrapp: What are you quoting? |
| 17:17.03 | vontrapp | myself |
| 17:17.07 | vontrapp | therapy session |
| 17:17.51 | levi | Oh. Well, I'm proud of my emacs usage. Your problem is your shame. ;) |
| 17:18.06 | vontrapp | :-p |
| 17:18.57 | vontrapp | um, i don't really use emacs, really, i don't |
| 17:19.19 | levi | I really do. |
| 17:20.00 | levi | vim served me well for a long time, but trying to keep my fingers trained to do both was counterproductive. |
| 17:22.34 | vontrapp | where was it raining? |
| 17:22.40 | hans | i'm migrating to notepad |
| 17:22.54 | levi | hans: :P |
| 17:22.54 | vontrapp | no way man, kdevelop |
| 17:23.04 | vontrapp | it eats more memory |
| 17:26.57 | vontrapp | those were the days |
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| 18:53.32 | statik | http://tsl.uct.ac.za/~jnklan001/song.mp3 |
| 18:53.34 | statik | oops |
| 18:53.41 | statik | http://www.bpninc.com/evideo/video_mac_hi.mov |
| 18:53.49 | levi | I miss the traffic on plug when there's no flamewar going on. |
| 18:53.55 | levi | statik: What's that? |
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| 18:54.45 | statik | levi, white trash america |
| 18:54.49 | statik | at it's best. |
| 18:54.57 | statik | I don't know what the first one is.. |
| 18:54.58 | levi | Ahh, okay. |
| 18:55.04 | statik | the second one is a movie though |
| 18:55.36 | statik | the first one is uh... |
| 18:55.42 | statik | white trash as well, it would seem |
| 18:56.51 | levi | I deal with that enough as it is... Dunno if I need to see a video about it. |
| 18:57.28 | statik | haha, it made me sick |
| 18:57.40 | statik | it's sad that people like that exist... |
| 18:57.58 | bucky | and that they all voted for Bush |
| 18:58.02 | statik | hah |
| 18:58.03 | statik | yeah |
| 18:58.08 | statik | pro walmart. |
| 18:58.16 | statik | stereotypical white trash. |
| 18:58.54 | bucky | America's new Health Plan... WalMart |
| 18:58.56 | statik | I love how in that video they threw in things like a picture of Britney Spears and Anna Nicolle Smith. |
| 18:59.00 | statik | :) |
| 18:59.03 | statik | No joke. |
| 18:59.26 | bucky | which video? |
| 19:00.00 | statik | http://www.bpninc.com/evideo/video_mac_hi.mov |
| 19:02.43 | levi | Well, the banjo playing was good. |
| 19:04.59 | bucky | that's what a redneck sees when his life flashes before his eyes |
| 19:05.43 | bucky | i was impressed with the AirStream converted into a Deer Stand |
| 19:06.55 | statik | haha |
| 19:07.06 | statik | that fact that you found part of it impressive makes me laugh |
| 19:07.14 | statik | did you see the guy filling his propane bottle up |
| 19:07.20 | statik | by sticking the other end of the hose into his butt |
| 19:07.24 | bucky | another airliner went down in Venezuela... these little airlines overseas are straining under the cost of fuel and can't maintain their aircraft properly |
| 19:07.28 | statik | :) |
| 19:07.32 | bucky | yeah.. saw that :D |
| 19:10.46 | bucky | i think they were getting ready to open that valve on the propane tank and give that guy frost bite in a really bad place |
| 19:12.26 | statik | haha |
| 19:13.31 | bucky | a sort of a RedNeck Cryogenics |
| 19:13.41 | bucky | maybe birth control |
| 19:22.24 | mheath | argh, I have to go back to work tonight |
| 19:22.37 | mheath | This all seems like a different world after I spent so much time away from this place. |
| 19:23.01 | sjansen | heh |
| 19:23.33 | hans | school starts in under a week. w00t |
| 19:24.01 | sjansen | w00t! |
| 19:24.21 | mheath | One more year of highschool. w00t! |
| 19:24.21 | dataw0lf | I second that w00t |
| 19:24.33 | dataw0lf | sjansen's, that is. |
| 19:24.37 | RyanE | I'm with stupid! w00t! |
| 19:24.49 | sjansen | d'oh! |
| 19:25.15 | sjansen | Not... not... NINTH GRADERS!!! |
| 19:26.55 | mheath | Wow |
| 19:27.12 | hans | why would find not respond to ctrl-c? |
| 19:27.17 | mheath | They gave me a printoff of what credits I need to get to graduate |
| 19:28.04 | mheath | I only have 1 credit (2 quarters of comp tech, 1 quarter of health, 1 quarter of P.E.) to complete, plus a couple online classes |
| 19:28.39 | mheath | (Because, for example, I did an internship rather than taking U.S. History which I can only take as a sophmore or junior, so I have to take it online now) |
| 19:29.03 | vontrapp | ~weather kpvu |
| 19:29.12 | goozbach | sjansen: how's toronto? |
| 19:29.29 | vontrapp | ok, so how come no temperature? |
| 19:29.40 | goozbach | and how was finding out you're leaving sunday afternoon, sunday morning? |
| 19:29.43 | levi | hans: So, when are you moving? |
| 19:29.50 | hans | friday |
| 19:30.36 | hans | vontrapp: you have windspeed and direction, what more could you ask for? |
| 19:30.47 | mheath | This is awesome |
| 19:30.59 | mheath | I only have to take one class every other day =P |
| 19:31.00 | levi | hans: Exciting. Still going to hang out in #utah? ;) |
| 19:31.14 | hans | we'll see, it depends on how much sjansen abuses me |
| 19:31.16 | goozbach | where is hans going? |
| 19:31.22 | hans | las cruces |
| 19:31.34 | goozbach | wherebouts is that? |
| 19:31.39 | jsmith | hans: Don't forget to eat at Yamatos. |
| 19:31.56 | goozbach | and why? |
| 19:31.57 | hans | http://maps.google.com/maps?q=las+cruces,+nm&spn=0.160153,0.225700&hl=en |
| 19:32.08 | hans | starting down the long road to PhD |
| 19:32.14 | hans | at NMSU |
| 19:32.20 | hans | yamatos? what's that? |
| 19:32.32 | mheath | Anyone here have Comcast internet? |
| 19:32.39 | goozbach | oh NM |
| 19:32.42 | jsmith | hans: Great Japanese restaurant in Las Cruces... |
| 19:32.50 | jsmith | mheath: Thank goodness, no. |
| 19:33.00 | goozbach | phd, huh? |
| 19:33.10 | goozbach | I've been wanting to do that for a while |
| 19:33.13 | mheath | I've been impressed with them, actually, it just seems that lately their DNS has been having LOTS of problems. |
| 19:33.26 | hans | yeah, it'll be fun |
| 19:33.35 | hans | probably get a masters along the way, although not necessarily |
| 19:34.17 | vontrapp | it used to give temperature |
| 19:34.17 | dataw0lf | mheath: Wow. Comcast, meet mheath. Mheath, meet Comcast. |
| 19:34.32 | hans | ~metar kpvu |
| 19:34.36 | vontrapp | it's not ibot, either, my weather krell is also borked |
| 19:34.55 | hans | that's why, the metar is missing temp |
| 19:36.05 | hans | ~metar kslc |
| 19:37.35 | hans | ~metar klru |
| 19:44.59 | mheath | http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Camp+Roberts,+California&ll=35.790822,-120.745465&spn=0.004150,0.007522&t=k&hl=en |
| 19:45.08 | mheath | that was my home for the past two weeks |
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| 20:42.45 | hans | ~lart php |
| 20:42.53 | hans | ~lart apache |
| 20:43.20 | tene | ~kill php |
| 20:43.20 | ibot | ACTION shoots a charged fluxtachyon gun at php |
| 20:43.23 | tene | ~destroy php |
| 20:43.23 | ibot | no |
| 20:43.27 | tene | aww... |
| 20:43.31 | tene | ~sniffle |
| 20:43.33 | tene | ~please |
| 20:43.34 | ibot | Do I look like an information bitch, tene? |
| 20:43.40 | tene | No, no you don't. |
| 20:45.09 | sjansen | goozbach: toronto's pretty good |
| 20:45.19 | sjansen | first time I've been in a first world city this big |
| 20:46.03 | sjansen | (not counting continues spread of humanity like california or the east) |
| 20:46.12 | hans | @#$@%^% how complicated need it be to get apache to serve PHP as PHP and not download it? |
| 20:47.03 | hans | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:47.19 | tene | AddType application/x-httpd-php .php |
| 20:47.22 | sjansen | that should do it there |
| 20:47.25 | tene | oh, you just said that |
| 20:47.28 | sjansen | assuming you have the module loaded |
| 20:47.31 | tene | after loading the php module |
| 20:47.33 | tene | gah! |
| 20:47.38 | tene | I lose. |
| 20:47.42 | sjansen | ~tickle tene |
| 20:47.43 | ibot | ACTION jumps on tene, yelling "TICKLE FIGHT!!!!" |
| 20:47.43 | hans | ok, so I'm not going crazy, I really do remember how to do this |
| 20:47.46 | hans | it just refuses to work |
| 20:47.58 | sjansen | you've reloaded the config and/or restarted? |
| 20:47.59 | tene | hans: you also need to reload apache ;) |
| 20:48.04 | hans | a dozen times |
| 20:48.04 | tene | Again! |
| 20:48.16 | hans | reboot! |
| 20:48.44 | sjansen | have you checked the context of the directive? maybe it's being overridden or is in too restrictive a context |
| 20:48.47 | tene | hans: anything interesting in logs? |
| 20:49.00 | sjansen | tene: good suggestion ;-) |
| 20:49.16 | hans | nothing in the logs |
| 20:49.16 | tene | And nobody else said it before I did! |
| 20:49.26 | sjansen | ~praise tene |
| 20:49.26 | ibot | All hail tene! |
| 20:50.07 | hans | that addtype line is in the php4.conf that is included, and in the cacti.conf, and even in the apache2.conf |
| 20:50.18 | tene | and where are you loading the module? |
| 20:50.20 | hans | does it hurt to put that line more than once? |
| 20:50.28 | sjansen | not that I know of |
| 20:51.02 | sjansen | it it were a toggle it's still be working on -> off -> on |
| 20:51.11 | hans | before |
| 20:52.41 | hans | as in, it's being loaded before the addtype lines |
| 20:52.51 | tene | checked out your php.ini? |
| 20:53.13 | hans | hm, what would I check for? |
| 20:53.22 | tene | not sure |
| 20:53.24 | hans | enging = on |
| 20:54.05 | hans | I'm getting, "You have chosen to open <blank lines> which is a: PHTML file from: http://172.16.59.96. What should Firefox do with this file?" |
| 20:55.31 | vontrapp | does your directory allow ExecCGI? |
| 20:55.32 | sjansen | have you tried entering raw http using telnet? |
| 20:55.52 | vontrapp | it should give you an error about permissions anyway if that were the case |
| 20:56.03 | vontrapp | hans: is this on red hat? |
| 20:56.36 | hans | it's apache2 if that matters |
| 20:56.57 | vontrapp | you have enabled the module, right/ |
| 20:56.58 | hans | execcgi - it didn't but it does now |
| 20:57.06 | hans | yes, linked into mods-enabled |
| 20:57.14 | hans | and the .load file, yes |
| 20:57.34 | vontrapp | have you set the php handlers? |
| 20:57.36 | hans | rather, it didn't explicitly say +ExecCGI, but now it does. |
| 20:57.42 | hans | that's what the ADdType lines do, right? |
| 20:57.54 | vontrapp | i guess so |
| 20:58.12 | vontrapp | yeah, that's all i have |
| 20:58.36 | vontrapp | just don't use php |
| 20:58.43 | tene | how did you set this up? Just install distro packages? |
| 20:58.49 | hans | heh. you go rewrite cacti then. |
| 20:58.52 | hans | yeah |
| 20:59.02 | hans | i don't remember having this trouble when I set it up on my workstation |
| 20:59.09 | hans | the only difference is his workstation is ubuntu |
| 20:59.16 | hans | and apache2 instead of apache |
| 20:59.26 | hans | but I have done php on apache2 before too |
| 20:59.36 | tene | yeah |
| 21:00.14 | tene | you installed the apache2 php module and not the apache1 php module, right? |
| 21:01.23 | hans | check |
| 21:01.34 | hans | maybe now that sjansen is gone it will work. |
| 21:01.39 | tene | is this php4 or php5? |
| 21:01.45 | hans | php4 |
| 21:01.51 | tene | oh |
| 21:01.51 | tene | also |
| 21:01.59 | tene | when it asks you to save the page |
| 21:02.23 | tene | Has the content it's sending been processed by PHP or not? |
| 21:02.59 | hans | not processed. |
| 21:03.57 | bucky | hans php will only work with apache2-mpm-prefork... is that what you have? |
| 21:04.39 | hans | yeah, prefork. |
| 21:04.45 | hans | but I didn't know that. |
| 21:05.14 | tene | maybe it will work now that you know that. |
| 21:05.21 | tene | You know... like rebooting the lisp machine? |
| 21:05.31 | bucky | apt-cache show libapache2-mod-php4 and it explains it |
| 21:06.24 | hans | cool. it depends properly so I wouldn't have been banging my head against that one. |
| 21:06.29 | hans | ~hug apt |
| 21:06.29 | ibot | ACTION hugs apt |
| 21:07.39 | bucky | hans, do you have your links set up in /etc/apache2/mods-available/ |
| 21:08.20 | hans | root@jebarlow:/etc/apache2/mods-enabled # ls -l |
| 21:08.27 | hans | ... |
| 21:08.28 | hans | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 37 2005-06-15 12:37 php4.conf -> /etc/apache2/mods-available/php4.conf |
| 21:08.31 | hans | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 37 2005-06-15 12:37 php4.load -> /etc/apache2/mods-available/php4.load |
| 21:09.34 | hans | maybe it's time for some purging |
| 21:09.36 | bucky | hans, /etc/apache2/mods-available/php4.conf might over ride any other configs you may be sending like for cactus |
| 21:10.20 | hans | i'm happy with the ones in php4.conf |
| 21:10.24 | hans | if only they'd work. |
| 21:11.59 | hans | all of a sudden, I suspect firefox |
| 21:12.40 | vontrapp | how would firefox even be able to get the source? |
| 21:13.01 | hans | it might have been misconfigured the first time |
| 21:13.05 | hans | and now I'm just seeing the cache |
| 21:13.12 | vontrapp | hmm |
| 21:13.13 | vontrapp | possibly |
| 21:13.32 | vontrapp | shift-click the reload button |
| 21:13.51 | bucky | hans, clear your cache in Preferences |
| 21:14.02 | bucky | FF will keep the old page |
| 21:14.03 | hans | I just closed firefox |
| 21:14.14 | hans | ~lart caches |
| 21:15.20 | hans | never caches when I want it to, always when I don't want it to |
| 21:15.25 | bucky | time for a bike ride.. got my blood pressure and cholesterol down and no meds for me :))) |
| 21:15.32 | vontrapp | caches are good, and in fact, i wish mod-musicindex would tell the browser it can cache all those stupid navigation icons... |
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| 21:17.13 | vontrapp | ~pipe sjansen |
| 21:17.31 | sjansen | ~whack portuguese portuguese |
| 21:17.31 | ibot | ACTION whacks portuguese portuguese upside the head. |
| 21:17.37 | vontrapp | ibot: can't you make something up? |
| 21:18.07 | sjansen | I don't know whether to be happy they have a channel in port. or be upset that everyone is speaking with that annoying continental accent |
| 21:18.35 | Jayce^ | ewww |
| 21:18.51 | Jayce^ | sure it's not just carioca's |
| 21:19.01 | vontrapp | hey, i'd be happy to have any cambodian channel, whatever accent it might be |
| 21:19.21 | hans | is there more than one accent? |
| 21:19.24 | Uncle_Jesse | cambodian channel? I want a cambodian channel - a thai one would be nice too |
| 21:19.39 | sjansen | occasionally, but swallowing more and using some of the hard sounds of continental |
| 21:19.55 | Jayce^ | note to self, dont' do large compiles while laptop is actually being used as such... |
| 21:19.58 | sjansen | and the fact that all males are sick (il vs. el) |
| 21:20.28 | vontrapp | Uncle_Jesse: why do you want a cambodian channel? |
| 21:20.38 | vontrapp | hans: there are several cambodian accents |
| 21:20.44 | Uncle_Jesse | vontrapp: because I served most of my mission on the border of Thailand and Cambodia |
| 21:20.47 | sjansen | now that guy had a brazilian accent (no surprise they were interviewing a soccer player) |
| 21:20.58 | hans | sigh |
| 21:20.59 | Jayce^ | but it's not going for $50, that's for sure |
| 21:21.00 | hans | Call to undefined function: mysql_connect() |
| 21:21.08 | Uncle_Jesse | mine is one of the new ones but I need a new battery |
| 21:21.12 | Jayce^ | hans, just give up, it's php... |
| 21:21.21 | Jayce^ | sjansen, yeah, but which accent? |
| 21:21.26 | Uncle_Jesse | I was in the line, but didn't play the game right |
| 21:21.26 | sjansen | it's a sign, the server is rejecting php |
| 21:21.27 | hans | if you perl hackers would get up and write something like cacti... ;-) |
| 21:21.40 | sjansen | didn't hear enough to place the accent |
| 21:21.43 | vontrapp | waiting for perl6 |
| 21:21.47 | Jayce^ | mmmmm |
| 21:22.05 | Uncle_Jesse | I've been up since 4:30 am and I'm high on caffeine now |
| 21:22.32 | bucky | hans uncomment php support in myconf.ini or what ever it is.. very faq problem |
| 21:23.07 | vontrapp | so why isn't it fixed? |
| 21:23.39 | tene | hans: what's cacti? |
| 21:23.48 | hans | cacti rocks |
| 21:23.50 | vontrapp | plural for cactus |
| 21:23.51 | hans | mostly |
| 21:23.59 | hans | ~cacti |
| 21:23.59 | bucky | debian never turns on services unless the user expressly wants them turned on |
| 21:24.09 | vontrapp | aww, should have given damien that word |
| 21:24.16 | hans | installing php4-mysql wasn't explicit enough? |
| 21:24.23 | vontrapp | for his inflect module presentation |
| 21:24.52 | bucky | hans, it's always been that way... i dunno.. i don't feel the need to defend it |
| 21:25.10 | Jayce^ | vontrapp, it does it correctly |
| 21:25.16 | hans | i don't mind, if it's documented in README.Debian |
| 21:25.16 | vontrapp | cool |
| 21:25.24 | hans | I don't see anything about this mystery file though |
| 21:25.42 | bucky | hans is there an entry for php in /etc/mysql/my.cnf |
| 21:26.08 | sjansen | so trying to find out what cacti is, the first page I get is a vulnerability report |
| 21:26.26 | vontrapp | that's ok sjansen, it rocks |
| 21:26.35 | hans | it's the first result from google |
| 21:26.37 | hans | ~google cacti |
| 21:26.49 | sjansen | "Cacti is vulnerable to several SQL injection, authentication bypass and file inclusion vulnerabilities." <-- isn't is safe to assume that about most php apps? |
| 21:26.58 | hans | :) |
| 21:27.28 | vontrapp | yes, that's safe to assume |
| 21:27.49 | vontrapp | why is ibot's google broken? |
| 21:27.49 | sjansen | actually cacti php |
| 21:28.00 | hans | running cacti where random people can play with it is probably more of a security risk |
| 21:28.08 | hans | it's not data you should be sharing with the world |
| 21:28.10 | vontrapp | oh, well of course your going to get security related results with a search like that! |
| 21:28.19 | bucky | php in general is a security risk... i like libapache2-mod-suphp better |
| 21:28.54 | Supaplex | suexec works just as well, but for any cgi content |
| 21:29.50 | vontrapp | why is su more secure? i don't get it |
| 21:30.04 | hans | su as in going the other direction - run as users |
| 21:30.23 | vontrapp | ah, so more like usphp |
| 21:30.31 | vontrapp | i get it |
| 21:31.33 | hans | :) |
| 21:31.47 | hans | phew. cacti is installed and running. now I can let my blood pressure drop |
| 21:32.22 | vontrapp | run your blood through one of those machines to get the php out |
| 21:32.44 | Jayce^ | PWNAGE! |
| 21:32.57 | Jayce^ | Support the PWNED |
| 21:34.36 | hans | i guess I'll have to make do with mashing putty |
| 21:34.50 | vontrapp | 0.o |
| 21:34.54 | vontrapp | did you steal my putty? |
| 21:34.57 | vontrapp | i can't find it |
| 21:35.11 | hans | no, I won mine fair and square |
| 21:35.16 | emcnabb | http://help.lockergnome.com/index.php?showtopic=37142 |
| 21:35.17 | vontrapp | hmm |
| 21:35.22 | emcnabb | this is pretty dang funny |
| 21:35.34 | Jayce^ | as fair as a fugal can be in winning swag |
| 21:39.13 | statik | Speaking of swag... |
| 21:39.21 | statik | I wonder where the crap my opensolaris tshirt is. |
| 21:40.05 | statik | Probably just a gimmick to get my address so they can spam my snailmail box with worthless linux/novell/microsoft cert giving schools. |
| 21:45.26 | sjansen | emcnabb: don't believe it |
| 21:49.50 | emcnabb | ok, I won't |
| 21:52.58 | hans | always so obedient |
| 21:55.03 | emcnabb | :-) |
| 21:55.30 | sjansen | ~abuse hans |
| 21:55.30 | ibot | ACTION smacks hans across the face. "Take that, Bitch!" |
| 21:56.01 | hans | anyone know what debian package Crypt::TripleDES is in? |
| 21:56.02 | hans | (perl) |
| 21:56.32 | Jayce^ | sorry, dunno the deb package |
| 21:56.40 | sjansen | perl-Crypt-TripleDES |
| 21:56.50 | sjansen | oh, Debian |
| 21:57.33 | hans | you see, I know sjansen is lying without even trying it |
| 21:57.44 | emcnabb | dang you sjansen |
| 21:57.47 | sjansen | that'd be a reasonable guess for RH |
| 21:58.11 | Jayce^ | seems like it would be a part of one of the Crypt bundles, but doesn't seem to be from here |
| 21:58.18 | sjansen | libcrypt-des-perl |
| 21:58.26 | hans | libcrypt-tripledes-perl would be a good guess on debian too |
| 21:58.29 | sjansen | can that do it? |
| 21:58.36 | hans | libcrypt-des-perl doesn't seem to have it |
| 21:58.45 | hans | and there is no libcrypt-* that has tripledes. oh well, I'll cpan int. |
| 21:59.09 | vontrapp | dang that C |
| 21:59.23 | vontrapp | it gets so deeply engrained... |
| 21:59.53 | sjansen | ~abuse hans |
| 21:59.53 | ibot | ACTION smacks hans across the face. "Take that, sucker!" |
| 22:02.19 | emcnabb | man sjansen, you're abusive |
| 22:04.17 | sjansen | emcnabb: gotta make sure hans doesn't choose to leave #utah after moving |
| 22:05.04 | sjansen | I don't understand it myself. Maybe hans is just masochistic. |
| 22:05.11 | sjansen | ~abuse hans |
| 22:05.12 | ibot | ACTION smacks hans across the face. "Take that, sucker!" |
| 22:06.32 | emcnabb | um... ok |
| 22:10.21 | hans | heh |
| 22:10.23 | hans | http://www.caffeineweb.com/NASA%20Study.htm |
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| 22:11.05 | Maquis | wow... |
| 22:11.08 | Maquis | i can get on again! |
| 22:11.48 | sjansen | ~diconnect Maquis |
| 22:12.00 | *** mode/#utah [+o hans] by ChanServ |
| 22:12.16 | Maquis | ~disconnect sjansen |
| 22:12.18 | hans | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:12.22 | goozbach | dumm dum da dumm. |
| 22:12.24 | Maquis | hey! |
| 22:12.31 | Maquis | goozbach: how's the class/ |
| 22:12.34 | hans | don't worry, it's not logged. |
| 22:20.10 | goozbach | good |
| 22:20.22 | goozbach | phoenix is hot |
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| 22:50.17 | hans | bucky: know any good free roadside camping spots in the blanding/monticello/moab/etc. area? |
| 22:53.58 | bucky | ys |
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| 22:55.00 | bucky | there's one just south of devil's canyon a couple of miles to the right off south bound 191 in the Manti La Sal campground |
| 22:55.11 | bucky | han it's a national forest site |
| 22:55.18 | bucky | err.. hans |
| 22:55.41 | vontrapp | yay for national forest |
| 22:56.02 | vontrapp | wait, you don't have to pay a fee for national forest? |
| 22:56.04 | bucky | Devil's Canyon is under construction... can't miss it |
| 22:56.13 | bucky | not this one |
| 22:56.28 | vontrapp | cool, what's it like there? |
| 22:56.50 | bucky | 7000 ft elevation.. lightly wooded area |
| 22:56.51 | vontrapp | devilish, maybe? |
| 22:56.55 | vontrapp | nice |
| 22:56.57 | vontrapp | my favorite |
| 22:57.24 | bucky | nice and comfortable temps right now.. light jacket at night |
| 22:57.31 | hans | sounds perfect |
| 22:57.40 | hans | vontrapp: write it down |
| 22:57.45 | vontrapp | righto |
| 22:58.04 | bucky | levi, any biking lately? |
| 22:59.13 | bucky | these guys came thru town with a guy with MS in a recumbant |
| 22:59.40 | bucky | a cross country tour is a mean thing to do to your disabled relatives |
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| 23:00.52 | bucky | vontrapp, hans that campground is about 15 miles south of Monticello, there's a State one before it, kind of hard to see |
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| 23:02.03 | bucky | The State one has a big dinning area under a roof, good to know about if there is bad weather |
| 23:02.40 | bucky | vontrapp, hans if you miss those two there is Recapture Lake if you want to go swimming just before Blanding |
| 23:05.13 | bucky | hans, vontrapp give me a call if you're in the area... from Monticello (435) 678-4052 |
| 23:07.30 | bucky | that will be a long distance call to Blanding |
| 23:07.41 | hans | we'll be staying over friday night in the journey to las cruces |
| 23:07.57 | vontrapp | is recapture lake right by the highway? |
| 23:08.09 | bucky | that's a long haul from here to las cruces |
| 23:08.25 | bucky | vontrapp, yes the road goes over the dam |
| 23:08.34 | hans | longer from here to las cruces, which is why we are camping. :) |
| 23:08.46 | hans | we'll stay in abq/santa fe saturday night |
| 23:08.47 | bucky | the north side of the lake is best for camping |
| 23:09.12 | bucky | hans that's a nice drive... 357 miles to Albuquerque from here |
| 23:09.18 | bucky | thru Cuba |
| 23:09.43 | bucky | 310 to Blanding from SLC, 357 to Albuquerque |
| 23:09.54 | hans | we might go through farmington though. what do you think, with a big moving truck will gas be cheaper tghrough farmington or through chama? |
| 23:10.06 | hans | oh, yeah, cuba route = farmington |
| 23:10.17 | bucky | that's the least miles |
| 23:11.02 | vontrapp | is devils canyon CR 110? |
| 23:11.50 | bucky | that's on 191 |
| 23:14.14 | bucky | i like going thru Blanding and not turning left on 282 at the bottom of White Mesa... big hill just keep going about five miles almost all the way to Bluff and turn right on 163 Cow Canyon.. it just save you from having to drive down to the San Juan River Basin, unless you just want to see it |
| 23:15.11 | bucky | 163 is a lots better road... less up and down and switch backs... that will take you to Montezuma Creek and then on to Four Corners |
| 23:16.18 | bucky | or you could just skip going to Blanding and turn left onto 441 in Monticello and go to Cortez Colorado |
| 23:16.39 | bucky | but the camping is nicer here |
| 23:17.56 | bucky | you should come down here and go to Bluff on your way to Montezuma Creek and see the new Monument they put up for the Hole-in-the-Rock pioneers.. and the Twins in Bluff |
| 23:22.49 | bucky | if you have time go to Four Corners.. just a couple of miles out of the way |
| 23:24.42 | bucky | here's Bluff http://www.geocities.com/Baja/Dunes/2319/bluff.html |
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| 23:28.16 | Maquis | AAIIIIIGGGHHHH!!!! |
| 23:28.31 | Maquis | @#$@#$%@#$ |
| 23:28.54 | hans | ~lart itself |
| 23:32.38 | bucky | man those poor israelis.. can you imagine being kicked out of your own home by your own army? |
| 23:34.00 | Maquis | ~lart hans |
| 23:34.24 | vontrapp | we have been to four corners a couple times before |
| 23:34.40 | vontrapp | used to drive between provo and santa fe all the time |
| 23:35.12 | vontrapp | might be fun for to see again though, esp for the youngens that might not remember much of it |
| 23:35.42 | vontrapp | Maquis: why ya pickin on hans? |
| 23:36.55 | bucky | my prefered route is thru Cow Canyon to Montezuma Creek-Aneth to Tees Nos Pos to Shiprock |
| 23:37.02 | bucky | that's the least miles |
| 23:37.51 | bucky | 357 miles to Albuquerque that way |
| 23:37.57 | bucky | from Blanding |
| 23:44.49 | Maquis | vontrapp: because he's there... |
| 23:59.35 | vontrapp | this song has pigeons |
