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| 01:41.04 | levi | Boo. |
| 01:43.28 | Maquis | boo! |
| 01:43.37 | Maquis | wow... |
| 01:43.44 | Maquis | i scared away linuxalien |
| 01:43.52 | Maquis | levi: sup?" |
| 01:44.15 | levi | Maquis: Got back from a looong camping weekend earlier today. |
| 01:44.32 | levi | It was a big family campout with my in-laws. |
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| 01:44.52 | Maquis | levi: that could be a good thing or a bad thing... how are the in-laws? |
| 01:44.58 | Maquis | linuxalien: glad i didn't scare you too bad :) |
| 01:45.04 | levi | Well, most are pretty decent. |
| 01:46.01 | levi | The ones with the little spoiled bratty kids didn't show, but there was one family that got on my nerves occasionally. |
| 01:46.54 | Maquis | that's not too bad |
| 01:48.16 | levi | As one of the last two families to leave, I had to pick up a lot of trash, which kind of annoyed me. |
| 01:48.22 | levi | Fire pits are not dumpsters. |
| 01:49.52 | Maquis | true |
| 01:50.05 | Maquis | i'm not a camper, and *i* know that... |
| 01:50.38 | levi | And, when cooking individually-wrapped hot dogs, the ground is not the proper place to dump the wrapper. |
| 01:53.00 | levi | Also, I hate RVs. At least when they're driven up narrow mountain roads and parked in camp sites. |
| 01:53.19 | levi | If old people want to drive them around and live out of RV camps, that's fine. |
| 01:53.47 | levi | But they're not 'camping' by any definitionn of the term I'm willing to accept. |
| 01:53.55 | Maquis | haha |
| 01:54.17 | Maquis | i would probably prefer them over *real* camping, but since i've never actually used one, i don't know for certain |
| 01:55.26 | levi | (the somewhat annoying family brought their RV, which was old and noisy and partially broken, and their two dogs, which were much less annoying than the RV but occasionally prone to fits of barking) |
| 01:55.33 | Maquis | i've done my fair share of camping, and can *survive* on a campout, although i really don't enjoy it that much |
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| 01:56.35 | Maquis | if i get to play with a leatherman or something like that, i probably won't even complain too much... but it's not my favorite thing to do on a free weekend.... |
| 01:57.05 | Maquis | i did a 6-day camping/kayaking trip in high school which was an ok experience... |
| 01:57.52 | levi | Camping isn't my favorite thing, either. |
| 01:58.00 | Maquis | my sleeping group was smart enough not to set our tarps over the lowest point in the clearing, so, although we had a rocky spot, we weren't soaked... |
| 01:58.16 | levi | My wife loves it, though, so we go a few times during the summer. |
| 01:58.18 | Maquis | (you'd think that seattle-ites would know better, but apparently a number of people hadn't caught on) |
| 01:58.24 | levi | Heh. |
| 01:59.07 | levi | We've got a huge tent, an air mattress, and lots of blankets, so theoretically we could be very comfortable. |
| 01:59.19 | Maquis | that's not bad at all |
| 01:59.22 | levi | Unfortunately, our air mattress isn't great at holding air though the whole night. |
| 01:59.23 | Maquis | i could probably camp like that |
| 01:59.23 | linuxalien | Maquis: Hi! hehe I wasn't scared |
| 01:59.32 | Maquis | linuxalien: just teasing you |
| 01:59.42 | Maquis | since you signed off about a tenth of a second after i said "boo" |
| 01:59.49 | linuxalien | hehe |
| 01:59.55 | linuxalien | It's just my connecton |
| 02:00.11 | Maquis | :) |
| 02:00.24 | levi | Maquis: I also brought our bikes up, so we rode around with the kids a bit, and I took a little mountain bike ride by myself. |
| 02:05.41 | Maquis | levi: that sounds fun! |
| 02:06.13 | levi | Yup. We also went swimming in the lake, which was cool, although it was as busy as the community pool. |
| 02:06.22 | Maquis | levi: haha |
| 02:06.33 | levi | But you could swim a long way without having to do any laps! |
| 02:06.38 | Maquis | the last place i've gone camping had a lake called "leech lake"... it wasn't busy at all... |
| 02:06.45 | levi | And I amazed some nieces with my speedy swimming. |
| 02:07.04 | Maquis | we have a cabin over near a different lake, though and my dad and i swam across one of the narrower points and back... |
| 02:07.10 | Maquis | took us about an hour... |
| 02:07.20 | Maquis | speedy swimming? |
| 02:07.23 | Maquis | cool stuff |
| 02:08.38 | levi | Well, speedy compared to the girls in their life vests. |
| 02:09.06 | levi | And their very un-fit mother/aunt. |
| 02:09.18 | Maquis | haha |
| 02:10.21 | levi | I'm out of practice with my swimming, but I still remember my strokes from my days on the swim team. ;) |
| 02:10.46 | Maquis | nic |
| 02:10.48 | Maquis | e |
| 02:11.08 | Maquis | i took swimming lessons when i was *really* little, but don't swim much anymore |
| 02:12.17 | levi | My swim team days were when I was pretty little, too. |
| 02:12.23 | Maquis | :0 |
| 02:12.46 | levi | My parents say my instructors thought I was a natural at it, though. |
| 02:13.05 | Maquis | that's nice |
| 02:13.15 | Maquis | i wasn't |
| 02:13.31 | levi | Must have been when I was around 10ish, maybe. |
| 02:13.40 | Maquis | my swim instructors never did manage to convince me to even jump off the diving board, even though the rest of my class was diving off the board... |
| 02:15.11 | levi | Heh. I loved the diving board, but the high dive was a little scary. |
| 02:16.14 | Maquis | :) |
| 02:17.55 | Maquis | hmmm |
| 02:18.02 | Maquis | is it bad to take AI during spring-term? |
| 02:18.51 | Maquis | i need to either redo my entire schedule for fall, or plan on taking it spring... |
| 02:19.02 | Maquis | i was planning on taking it in winter, but it's only offered fall/spring |
| 02:20.01 | levi | I never got to those high-level classes at BYU. |
| 02:20.18 | levi | Too busy retaking flunked early and mid-level classes. |
| 02:22.25 | Maquis | ah... |
| 02:22.33 | Maquis | i've managed to avoid flunking classes... |
| 02:22.56 | Maquis | it's been close once or twice... |
| 02:25.43 | levi | I started out really badly there. |
| 02:25.57 | levi | I thoroughly regret it, but it's all under the bridge now. |
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| 04:59.38 | levi | Pretty sweet deal. |
| 04:59.51 | levi | Maybe I should take up big international scams instead of programming. |
| 05:02.22 | levi | Hrm, my father in law is apparently getting into some Ayurveda dietary system. |
| 05:57.59 | levi | We were picking up the cat, and he printed out some paper from the internet on 'food combining' that apparently has its roots in Ayurvedic 'medicine' but has been adopted by all sorts of quacks here. |
| 05:58.56 | levi | The gist of it is that, supposedly, your body can't digest certain things at the same time due to acid/base needs for digestion, and your food rots in your digestive system. |
| 05:59.13 | levi | Which is totally bogus. |
| 05:59.45 | levi | I wish he would quit pushing this crap on us. |
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| 06:01.15 | levi | And he got all worked up over browned sausages, saying burnt protein causes raised homocysteine levels, which clot your arteries and cause heart attacks. |
| 06:02.31 | levi | Apparently there is a statistical link between elevated homocysteine levels and heart attacks, but the other stuff is unproven and I found no mention at all of burnt proteins having anything to do with it. |
| 06:03.06 | levi | Anyway, time to sleep. |
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| 14:22.20 | bonez39 | what might this mean: WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated! |
| 14:22.20 | bonez39 | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:22.29 | bonez39 | I get it when running apt-get upgrade |
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| 14:57.43 | hans | bonez39: it's ubuntu's fault. so long as it isntalls you can just ignore it. |
| 15:01.12 | vontrapp | goood mornin! |
| 15:04.16 | vontrapp | bonez39: what sources are you using? |
| 15:04.33 | Maquis | vontrapp: mornin |
| 15:04.43 | vontrapp | ubuntu has it's 'approved' sources, anything else is not authenticated |
| 15:04.50 | Maquis | 'tis monday... |
| 15:05.01 | Maquis | looks like there were some server issues last night |
| 15:05.22 | vontrapp | Maquis: well, i went to bed at a reasonable hour last night, so it's pretty much the best morning in a while |
| 15:06.24 | Maquis | vontrapp: good for you... i went to bed at a reasonable hour, but i've been up for 3 hours already and i'm a timezone earlier than you |
| 15:06.48 | vontrapp | so you should be wide awake by now :-p |
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| 15:12.32 | vontrapp | http://redhanded.hobix.com/images/titanium-foxes.png |
| 15:13.00 | vontrapp | actually, this instead: http://redhanded.hobix.com/cult/permoFoxed.html |
| 15:16.50 | vontrapp | the morning just got magnitudes less good |
| 15:18.33 | Maquis | ~lart emcnabb |
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| 15:21.10 | hans | ~lart vontrapp |
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| 15:43.07 | tensai | ~tickle spence |
| 15:43.35 | spence | careful, tensai |
| 15:43.47 | spence | I hardly know you |
| 15:44.42 | Maquis | ~tickle tensai |
| 15:44.54 | hans | ~tackle Maquis |
| 15:44.54 | ibot | ACTION tackles Maquis to the ground. |
| 15:45.22 | Maquis | hmmm... |
| 15:45.26 | Maquis | ibot doesn't like me |
| 15:45.39 | tensai | ~hug Maquis |
| 15:45.39 | ibot | ACTION hugs Maquis |
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| 15:45.47 | Maquis | ibot: tickle $foo is <action> jumps on $foo, yelling "TICKLE FIGHT!!!!" |
| 15:45.47 | ibot | okay, Maquis |
| 15:45.55 | Maquis | ~tickle tensai |
| 15:45.55 | ibot | ACTION jumps on tensai, yelling "TICKLE FIGHT!!!!" |
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| 16:12.13 | hans | for the record, in case anyone wondered, standalong DSL is $5 cheaper than DSL with basic service, plus you don't have the taxes and fees associated with basic service. |
| 16:13.26 | hans | actually that may be a lie. It's $5 more than not standalone, and basic service is a little over $10 I think... |
| 16:14.52 | vontrapp | way to fudge up the record, hans |
| 16:15.03 | tensai | yeah, clear as mud now |
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| 16:15.55 | hans | :) |
| 16:16.11 | hans | when I get my first bill without basic service I'll post an accurate savings analysis |
| 16:16.16 | hans | including what I spend on voip |
| 16:17.46 | RyanE | or your accurate 'lack-of-savings' analysis, as the case may be. :) |
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| 16:24.58 | hans | RyanE: true, but highly unlikely |
| 16:25.06 | hans | I'm confident that I'll be saving money |
| 16:25.20 | hans | even without accounting for the long distance. |
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| 16:27.47 | RyanE | I hope so. I'm looking forward to seeing the analysis, as I have considered the switch. |
| 16:28.20 | Maquis | what's the difference between all these things??? |
| 16:29.11 | jsmith | Maquis: One of it's feet are both the same? |
| 16:30.36 | jsmith | (That's the punch line to the question/joke "What's the difference between a duck") |
| 16:46.55 | hans | I'm trying to set up sasl auth on postfix, and I think I might have, but I can't get it to accept plain authentication and I don't know how to play LOGIN |
| 16:47.00 | hans | (to test) |
| 16:47.25 | bonez39 | vontrapp: I have my sources.list set to all sarge.... |
| 16:47.44 | vontrapp | and you're using ubuntu? |
| 16:49.26 | Bradipo | 1 login username password |
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| 16:50.07 | vontrapp | hans: how do you hold a package with apt-get? |
| 16:50.14 | Bradipo | Or are you talking about SMTP authentication? |
| 16:50.23 | hans | bradipo, yes |
| 16:50.47 | Bradipo | Hmm, been a while since I did that. I usually prefer using SSL authentication (or POP before SMTP). |
| 16:51.35 | hans | ssl as in the client has a cert? |
| 16:52.28 | vontrapp | "Also, the IETF should end concerns about IP shortages by working to |
| 16:52.31 | vontrapp | expand NAT implementations and the use of IPv6" |
| 16:53.48 | vontrapp | those are two apposing routes |
| 16:54.40 | jsmith | vontrapp: One's short-term, the other is long-term |
| 16:55.24 | vontrapp | the latter isn't going to happen until the former is abandoned or proved futile |
| 16:56.02 | jsmith | futile... nobody wants to replace all the equipment, and too many people are using NAT for security (yuck!) |
| 16:56.33 | jsmith | I'm saying IPv6, at this point, is probably futile... |
| 16:56.51 | tensai | ~flame jsmith |
| 16:56.51 | ibot | tensai sux0rz d00d!!!!!!!!!!!!!!@@!!!!!!!11 |
| 16:56.59 | tensai | ibot: hey! |
| 16:56.59 | ibot | rumour has it, hey is almost for horses |
| 16:57.37 | vontrapp | from the same post: "when you copy links from your browser to your e-mail |
| 16:57.40 | vontrapp | program to send to your friends, the domain name is displayed however |
| 16:57.43 | vontrapp | the webmaster may want. Once domain names become invisible bits like IP |
| 16:57.45 | vontrapp | addresses, then there will be no point in fighting about them." |
| 16:59.10 | tensai | jsmith: I do believe ipv6 will be deployed and used. it will probably happen last in the US. |
| 16:59.53 | tensai | although the federal government recently decreed that by June 2006 all branches must have ipv6 deployment plans, and must complete them by 2008 |
| 17:00.19 | tensai | whether that happens or not, we'll see. these are the folks who demanded compliance with OSI. |
| 17:00.21 | Bradipo | hans: Yes, as in the client is issued a certificate. |
| 17:00.23 | vontrapp | well, i guess that's better than never |
| 17:01.04 | Bradipo | POP before SMTP is much simpler though. |
| 17:01.55 | tensai | Bradipo: although MS clients try to SMTP before POP and thus get a failure the first time. what do you expect from them though. |
| 17:05.06 | hans | we don't suppor pop |
| 17:05.21 | hans | tested it with thunderbird, it seems to be working |
| 17:05.46 | hans | if the PDA program thing supports SSL client we might go that route, since most people have an ssl cert anyway (for openvpn) |
| 17:07.02 | Bradipo | hans: Well, IMAP before SMTP works too. |
| 17:07.12 | hans | we don't do imap either |
| 17:07.13 | hans | alas |
| 17:07.29 | tensai | send-only? |
| 17:07.38 | hans | notes |
| 17:07.46 | tensai | but it uses smtp? |
| 17:07.51 | hans | yes |
| 17:07.56 | tensai | interesting |
| 17:07.58 | hans | but for receiving, it does its own thing |
| 17:08.26 | hans | to my knowledge, the full-fledged notes client (not the PDA version) actually doesn't (or doesn't necessarily) use smtp |
| 17:08.31 | hans | but this pda thing does |
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| 17:47.04 | hans | anyone play sasl and ldap together on debian? |
| 17:58.11 | tensai | I tried once but gave up. That was quite a while ago. ldap and ssl is pretty easy if you're just trying to secure line communication. |
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| 18:39.08 | vontrapp | i feel gipped |
| 18:41.04 | hans | por quah? |
| 18:42.35 | vontrapp | the keane hopes and fears cd, i look on cddb and just about every hopes and fears entry i look up has 12 songs, but mine only has 11 |
| 18:43.54 | hans | maybe it's hidden? |
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| 18:46.08 | barkingspider | Hi people! |
| 18:46.19 | vontrapp | looks like it's the US version only has 11, and from wherever else has 12 |
| 18:47.00 | vontrapp | the extra song is "On a Day Like Today" |
| 18:47.23 | vontrapp | which is a good song, again, i feel gipped |
| 18:48.09 | vontrapp | the import is a few times more expensive though |
| 18:48.45 | vontrapp | ~seen linuxalien |
| 18:48.49 | ibot | linuxalien <~bastage@c-24-2-80-89.hsd1.ut.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #utah, 16h 48m 54s ago, saying: 'It's just my connecton'. |
| 18:49.06 | vontrapp | well i'll be |
| 18:49.19 | barkingspider | I'm installing Gentoo |
| 18:49.28 | Jayce^ | you poor thing |
| 18:49.29 | barkingspider | I couldn't remember my pw for linuxalien but I remember for barkingspider |
| 18:49.53 | vontrapp | why have two? |
| 18:50.15 | hans | because sometimes you feel like a nut |
| 18:50.21 | barkingspider | Well, I made the 2nd one when I completely forgot my pw for linuxalien, and then got a server op to reset it |
| 18:50.33 | vontrapp | sometimes you don't |
| 18:50.36 | barkingspider | so now I have two |
| 18:52.17 | barkingspider | kernels take a while to compile |
| 18:52.22 | barkingspider | even on a 2600_ |
| 18:52.28 | barkingspider | 2600+ |
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| 19:13.30 | barkingspider | hehe |
| 19:14.03 | barkingspider | Actually, it was the cheapest CPU at the time I got it, with the most bang |
| 19:14.16 | barkingspider | But It is cool that is is a 2600 |
| 19:23.18 | barkingspider | I hate low book sales commercials on the radio |
| 19:23.29 | tene | yeah |
| 19:24.00 | tene | It would be really really cool if advertisements were limited to a direct statement of what your company is and what you're offering. |
| 19:29.35 | barkingspider | Yup - I hate their "jingles" they are really dumb |
| 19:30.08 | graphyx | I think I would prefer the 3700 X2 over a 2600 even with the phreaking connection... ;) |
| 19:30.36 | barkingspider | Yeah, I'd love a faster processor but It's not broke so I won't buy another for a while |
| 19:31.25 | graphyx | I have a xp 2000 +. I've had that one for like 2.5 years now.. |
| 19:31.30 | barkingspider | I'd love an athlon64 |
| 19:31.31 | graphyx | But it is doing just fine. so it |
| 19:31.38 | graphyx | it's not like I need to revamp my computer. |
| 19:31.54 | graphyx | I mean heck, UT2004 runs nicely on it... |
| 19:31.56 | graphyx | What more do I need? |
| 19:32.18 | barkingspider | Yeah, I like playing ut2004 too, and doom3 and others |
| 19:33.52 | vontrapp | ~2600 |
| 19:33.52 | ibot | 2600 is probably a great magazine published by the people at http://www.2600.org/ |
| 19:34.59 | vontrapp | is that the phreakin connection? |
| 19:35.06 | graphyx | yeah.. |
| 19:35.14 | graphyx | 2600 is a magazine for phone phreakers.. |
| 19:35.30 | graphyx | It's the frequency in kH that was used for the 4th row of buttons on the phones. |
| 19:35.37 | graphyx | That were used for internal phone stuff.. |
| 19:36.16 | vontrapp | so doeas that mean it works really good with asterisk? |
| 19:36.51 | graphyx | the frequency? |
| 19:36.59 | graphyx | It doesn't work at all for systems nowdays. |
| 19:37.19 | barkingspider | Grub-install takes forever to probe and can't get past the fact it can't probe my floppy drive. |
| 19:37.21 | graphyx | The phones are now set up with a system for out of band signalling. |
| 19:37.31 | graphyx | You have to do grub --no-floppy |
| 19:37.38 | graphyx | And then it is done immediately. |
| 19:37.41 | barkingspider | ok thanks! |
| 19:37.47 | graphyx | Sure.. |
| 19:38.05 | vontrapp | no, i mean the 2600 works well with asterisk because of the phreakin connection |
| 19:38.07 | hans | the problem is I can't find whatever includes saslauthd on debian |
| 19:38.12 | graphyx | gotcha.. |
| 19:40.27 | barkingspider | Damn....it probes the floppy anyhow |
| 19:40.38 | barkingspider | stupid machine |
| 19:40.45 | tene | that's an option to grub |
| 19:40.48 | tene | not grub-install |
| 19:41.03 | graphyx | Just do grub --no-floppy |
| 19:41.07 | graphyx | Then root (hd0,0) |
| 19:41.09 | barkingspider | grub-install says it's an option..when you run it by itself without parameters |
| 19:41.14 | graphyx | Then setup (hd0) |
| 19:41.19 | vontrapp | grub-install has a -no-floppy option too |
| 19:41.58 | barkingspider | the new instructions say I have to run grub-install before running grub but I'll doublecheck cuz it's annoying me |
| 19:42.20 | barkingspider | Yeah, it's making me run that thing |
| 19:42.52 | tene | barkingspider: is it -no-floppy or --no-floppy? |
| 19:43.01 | barkingspider | it is --no-floppy |
| 19:44.24 | barkingspider | I'm gonna take a nap |
| 19:44.35 | barkingspider | I'm tired so it makes me cranky about little stuff like that hehehe |
| 19:44.43 | barkingspider | thanks for the input |
| 19:44.48 | barkingspider | I'll b back in about 30 or so |
| 19:48.24 | Bradipo | Any chance I can tell pluglist not to send the broken trailer on my messages? |
| 19:48.38 | Bradipo | It is inserting improperly formatted text in a quoted-printable message. |
| 19:49.07 | Bradipo | Specifically, the ================ Are not properly encoded as quoted-printable, but according to the Content-transfer-encoding it is a quoted-printable message. |
| 19:49.58 | hans | Bradipo: you bet. just tell me what to fix |
| 19:50.13 | Bradipo | = should be =3d |
| 19:50.26 | hans | so =3d=3d=3d, etc.? |
| 19:50.27 | Bradipo | So, just reformat the text as =3d=3d=3d=3d=3d=3d=3d etc... |
| 19:50.54 | Bradipo | Of course, that might break the messages for those which aren't sent as quoted-printable. :-) |
| 19:51.22 | hans | if there's no =, will that work? |
| 19:51.31 | Bradipo | Basically, its bad for a mail exploder to append text to the message unless it is intelligent enough ot handle all the known formats. |
| 19:51.37 | Bradipo | Yeah. |
| 19:51.44 | Bradipo | = is a special character in a quoted-printable message. |
| 19:52.00 | Bradipo | So, a different character would work better I suppose. |
| 19:53.07 | hans | changed to - |
| 19:53.21 | hans | wonder if anyone will notice |
| 19:53.29 | Bradipo | Interestingly enough, those using gmail will notice that they actually strip out the bad string of improper =. |
| 19:53.53 | hans | although at heart, it sounds like a mailman issue |
| 19:54.15 | Bradipo | Well, it is possible that the original poster sent a quoted-printable message. |
| 19:54.20 | Bradipo | But mailman didn't know how to handle that. |
| 19:54.33 | Bradipo | And just appended the trailer without proper quoted-printable encoding it first. |
| 19:54.44 | hans | right, mailman issue |
| 19:55.01 | hans | in config, mailman just asks for "footer" |
| 19:55.19 | Bradipo | This only recently started happening though. |
| 19:55.27 | Bradipo | Like within the last few months or so. |
| 19:55.41 | Bradipo | Either that or I just haven't noticed it... |
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| 20:34.09 | levi | Good afternoon. |
| 20:48.27 | hans | wow, got a kind and helpful answer on #debian |
| 20:48.38 | hans | and timely |
| 20:52.15 | Maquis | hans: wow |
| 21:06.44 | synic | that's kind of scary. |
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| 21:22.30 | graphyx | hans: How big a call center do you handle with asterisk? |
| 21:23.05 | graphyx | We are trying to get it to do call distrubution for a phone number that gets 400 calls a day to switch between like 15 people.. |
| 21:23.23 | graphyx | Is it possible for it to send out multiple calls to multiple phones at the same time? |
| 21:24.02 | vontrapp | yep |
| 21:26.22 | graphyx | We are doing thise through AMP. |
| 21:26.39 | graphyx | We tried round robin, but it only sent out 1 call and went through the group till a person answered , then the next. |
| 21:26.58 | graphyx | What call strategy will let more than one through at the same time? |
| 21:28.58 | jsmith | graphyx: Don't use AMP... learn Asterisk itself and then dive into call queues... |
| 21:29.13 | graphyx | Well that may be the way that we go.. |
| 21:29.28 | graphyx | But right now the solution was sold with AMP as the interface they will support. |
| 21:29.38 | jsmith-away | It's too bad the first edition of http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/asterisk/ doesn't cover call queues. |
| 21:29.46 | graphyx | And until I am given the go ahead I can't alter stuff on the command line. |
| 21:30.22 | graphyx | But this might be important enough to get that access.. |
| 21:36.42 | scott | has anyone had firefox put an actual cursor when you click on places? I don't remember it doing this before, but the last few weeks whenever I click somewhereo the page a big cursor appears there and flashes, but I can't type obviously. |
| 21:39.34 | levi | There was some editor thingy I used that I had to turn that feature on for. |
| 21:39.53 | levi | I don't remember how I turned it on or off, though. |
| 21:40.14 | scott | does it have to do with DOM inspector? I had to do that for view css info |
| 21:40.47 | levi | That could have turned it on. You can probably turn it off again with about:config |
| 21:40.58 | hans | graphyx: no idea on the amp stuff |
| 21:41.14 | hans | I haven't set up queues, but jsmith is a good resource there (he runs a huge call center) |
| 21:41.30 | levi | scott: It's the accessibility.browsewithcaret preference. |
| 21:42.38 | scott | yeah! |
| 21:42.46 | scott | that was such a pain |
| 21:42.48 | hans | so I ran around chasing the goose to get sasl to do ldap, then I look at my ldap database and realize I'm not storing passwords there after all - the IMAP setup I have now maps ldap user to real user and then uses pam. |
| 21:44.26 | Maquis | ~ruler hans |
| 21:44.26 | ibot | ACTION slaps hans's wrists with a ruler |
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| 22:25.15 | levi | Anyone here ever deal with grub dying silently after printing GRUB ? |
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| 23:22.06 | tene | scott: hit 'f7' |
| 23:29.05 | tene | no, 'f7', not 'kick people offline' |
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