| 00:19.12 | goozbach | columbus has some GOOD eats |
| 00:20.38 | goozbach | there's this big outdoor mall that has a 3:1 shop to restaurant ratio |
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| 00:36.27 | Maquis | goozbach: nice |
| 00:36.56 | Maquis | alderwood mall (here in washington) just got a macaroni grill, a p.f. chang's and a coldstone |
| 00:39.14 | goozbach | eek, I'm late!!! |
| 00:46.30 | xbmodder | nuke deh world! |
| 00:46.36 | xbmodder | ~destroy xbmodder |
| 00:46.36 | ibot | no |
| 00:46.43 | xbmodder | ~destroy food |
| 00:46.43 | ibot | no |
| 00:46.46 | xbmodder | ~destroy no |
| 00:46.46 | ibot | no |
| 00:47.05 | xbmodder | anyone here deleted rm before? |
| 00:51.52 | graphyx | Wow... once that was done what would you do to erase things? |
| 00:52.02 | graphyx | echo "" > whaterever.. to have an empty file? |
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| 01:54.25 | Maquis | xbmodder: did you do that? |
| 01:54.43 | Maquis | i never thought of deleting rm.... it doesn't sound that smart though |
| 01:54.50 | levi | Yo. |
| 01:55.56 | graphyx | so who was it that was going to create a manual of how to do everything you need to get around in a shell with only shell based commands? |
| 01:56.09 | Maquis | ??? |
| 01:56.27 | graphyx | could you replace cp with stuff like echo "filename" > "filename2" ? |
| 01:57.39 | spr | not with echo, cat should work though |
| 01:57.50 | Maquis | yeah |
| 01:58.06 | Maquis | otherwise filename2 will just contane 'filename' in it |
| 01:58.10 | Maquis | s/contane/contain |
| 01:58.59 | levi | Is contane like octane? |
| 01:59.26 | graphyx | Like that one situation where the /usr/bin wouldn't load cause there was too much in memory and they only had bash accessible commands.. |
| 02:00.03 | spr | what about /bin? I mean, bash has to load somehow, and all vital commands should be in /bin |
| 02:00.24 | graphyx | Not that it is really all that important. |
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| 02:11.23 | goozbach | a true blue minimal unix like system needs at least /etc/ /dev/ /lib/ /bin/ /sbin/ and /root |
| 02:11.39 | goozbach | then the root user can log in and fix most problems |
| 02:11.55 | goozbach | or run all 'system-dependant' programs |
| 02:18.42 | bowser | I was wiping out a system once and decided to just run rm -rf / just do do it |
| 02:19.07 | goozbach | another fun one is # cat /var/log/messages > /dev/hda |
| 02:19.18 | goozbach | or dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda |
| 02:19.33 | bowser | halfway through, I thought, "rm -rfi / would be much better". I escaped out of the rm... but by then /bin was gone :( |
| 02:20.22 | bowser | s/-rfi/rfv/ |
| 02:20.33 | bowser | s/-rfi/-rfv/ |
| 02:20.35 | bowser | sheesh |
| 02:21.40 | goozbach | it's nice having a bunch of test computers around... |
| 02:21.50 | goozbach | you can blow them away in so many interesting ways |
| 02:23.12 | bowser | yeah |
| 02:23.43 | bowser | goozbach: good to see someone from fslc representin' |
| 02:23.46 | graphyx | Just get big magnents like in the movie the CORE |
| 02:24.14 | graphyx | I think that was the only realistic scene in the entire movie though.. |
| 02:24.25 | goozbach | bowser: representin' how? |
| 02:24.43 | bowser | goozbach: by talking :) |
| 02:25.06 | bowser | graphyx: what, did they wipe out the core file? |
| 02:25.14 | goozbach | ahh I see. fslc on #utah |
| 02:25.22 | graphyx | no... |
| 02:25.40 | graphyx | The core was a highly unrealistic movie about going into the core of the earth and getting it to spin once more. |
| 02:26.04 | bowser | graphyx: yeah, I was trying to be punny ;) |
| 02:26.06 | graphyx | here is an example from the movie: "The only thing keeping us from getting crushed is the heat and the pressure.." |
| 02:26.12 | bowser | heh |
| 02:26.17 | levi | Hmmm, tornado warning for Davis and Weber counties. |
| 02:26.22 | graphyx | wow.. |
| 02:26.32 | goozbach | the only think keeping me from dying is the gunshot through my brain. |
| 02:27.10 | goozbach | maybe it's a good thing I came home from Davis county |
| 02:27.14 | graphyx | goozbach: sounds like you should be a hollywood sci-fi script writer. |
| 02:30.56 | levi | Hmm, possible tornado over antelope island. |
| 02:31.25 | levi | It's moving towards Syracuse and Clearfield. |
| 02:32.27 | levi | Possibly two of them now. |
| 02:32.55 | graphyx | Here in Utah County we don't even have any wind.. |
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| 03:22.08 | linuxalien | I'm in North Ogden! Woo hoo! |
| 03:25.40 | Maquis | ~lart goozbach |
| 03:26.16 | tensai | ~electrocute Maquis |
| 03:26.16 | ibot | ACTION puts 40,000 volts through Maquis |
| 03:26.44 | Maquis | ~tree tensai |
| 03:26.45 | ibot | ACTION sizes up a tree and chops it down in just the right place to fall on tensai. |
| 03:29.45 | tensai | mmm... homemade "ranch" |
| 03:30.09 | Maquis | ?? |
| 03:30.10 | tensai | mayo, fresh ground pepper, dill weed. not bad for a dip. |
| 03:30.24 | goozbach | ohh fresha peppa |
| 03:30.52 | Maquis | ~lart goo |
| 03:31.04 | tensai | fresh pepper is a world apart from ground |
| 03:31.35 | tensai | and it goes well with everything |
| 03:34.46 | goozbach | what's with the larting? |
| 03:34.50 | goozbach | whatever did I do? |
| 03:34.55 | goozbach | ~putty Maquis |
| 03:34.55 | ibot | ACTION rolls a thick putty bat and beats Maquis with it |
| 03:35.10 | goozbach | there! |
| 03:39.54 | RyanE | what the 'h is a putty bat anyway? |
| 03:42.04 | goozbach | RyanE: think silly putty |
| 03:42.08 | goozbach | but a lot of it |
| 03:42.24 | goozbach | like 250 pounds of it |
| 03:42.39 | RyanE | yeah, that's kind of what it sounded like, but it's an odd expression. |
| 03:42.45 | goozbach | now take a large amount of that putty and roll it into a bat |
| 03:42.54 | goozbach | then bonk someone on the head with it. |
| 03:43.44 | goozbach | the ~putty lart stems from the fact that GuruLabs bought a large amount of putty to be given away with it's student packets |
| 03:43.58 | goozbach | we the employees found interesting uses for it. |
| 03:44.04 | goozbach | such as the bat |
| 03:52.45 | tensai | paid through the nose for it, but yes. it's come in quite handy since then too. |
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| 04:02.30 | roscivs | k, so I have two sound cards, a sound blaster live and an onboard sound card. onboard defaults to /dev/dsp so I remove all references to it from /etc/modprobe.conf and restart. |
| 04:02.45 | roscivs | the onboard sound card modules STILL get loaded somehow and /dev/dsp still defaults to it. |
| 04:02.55 | roscivs | Any ideas on how this could happen? |
| 04:03.40 | Maquis | what distro? |
| 04:03.45 | roscivs | fc4 |
| 04:04.12 | roscivs | (it worked fine on a previous install of fc4, but I reinstalled tonight and it's giving me this problem) |
| 04:05.30 | goozbach | http://www.youmightbe.com/pages/computergeek.html |
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| 04:07.40 | Maquis | goozbach: i might be a computer geek |
| 04:08.06 | Maquis | well.. on some of them |
| 04:13.06 | tensai | roscivs: but I have an answer... |
| 04:14.01 | tensai | ~fetch roscivs |
| 04:14.16 | tensai | ~retrieve roscivs |
| 04:14.21 | tensai | ~get roscivs |
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| 05:32.01 | roscivs | Ok ... anyone know how to use different xorg.conf files for different users? |
| 05:32.54 | roscivs | Or to specify a different xorg.conf with "startx", actually. |
| 05:35.42 | levi | Woo, the grouting is finished! |
| 05:35.48 | RyanE | levi: congrats |
| 05:36.10 | levi | We now have a tile floor in the kitchen. |
| 05:36.37 | RyanE | you still need to wash off the tile? or did you finish that? |
| 05:36.44 | RyanE | what color grout did you use? |
| 05:36.48 | xbmodder | http://xbmodder.us/index.php?module=pagemaster&PAGE_user_op=view_page&PAGE_id=7&MMN_position=13:13 |
| 05:37.02 | xbmodder | levi, cool |
| 05:37.13 | xbmodder | roscivs, layout. |
| 05:37.32 | roscivs | xbmodder: layout? |
| 05:37.59 | levi | RyanE: We washed it, but I think there might still be a light haze over some of it. We need to seal the grout, too, but that'll be tomorrow. |
| 05:38.25 | RyanE | that's awesome. |
| 05:38.37 | RyanE | we never sealed ours, but it was a fairly dark grey color to begin with, so it doesn't look too bad |
| 05:38.57 | RyanE | ours is only in bathrooms and laundry rooms. |
| 05:39.18 | RyanE | but, congrats again. That's a lot of hard work. |
| 05:40.01 | xbmodder | roscivs, the server layout section! |
| 05:40.29 | xbmodder | levi, what color? |
| 05:40.50 | levi | xbmodder: It's called 'chamois' |
| 05:40.57 | roscivs | xbmodder: Sorry, I'm still in the dark. How does the server layout section help me? |
| 05:41.37 | RyanE | so sort of a tan-yellow color, like a chamois cloth? And What color tile? |
| 05:41.47 | RyanE | you should put up a picture. :) |
| 05:41.52 | roscivs | Is it possible to choose a different serverlayout section from the startx command? |
| 05:42.26 | roscivs | hmmm... perhaps "startx -- -layout [ServerLayout Identifier]" ?? |
| 05:43.10 | levi | I'll probably put one up at some point. The tile color is called 'Timpanogas' or something like that. I can't recall if it was spelled correctly or not. |
| 05:43.26 | RyanE | close enough. Timpanogos. |
| 05:43.47 | levi | Right, but I'm not sure if the tile color spelled it correctly. |
| 05:43.59 | levi | It's sort of a light tan color. |
| 05:44.16 | levi | And it's got a bit of irregular texture to it, too. |
| 05:51.43 | xbmodder | rosyeah! |
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| 07:41.43 | Hhhhh | hello |
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| 08:35.39 | xbmodder | sup |
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| 13:03.27 | bonez39 | anyone here runnint proftp as FTP server? |
| 13:04.03 | bonez39 | I need to set up some sort of ftp server..to allow, with password verification, a few users to access a limited number of files on my office system.... |
| 13:04.39 | graphyx | Sounds like just about any ftp server will do it for you. |
| 13:04.44 | graphyx | That is the way they all work. |
| 13:05.11 | graphyx | Just be sure that you don't consider the content of the file to be confidential. |
| 13:05.17 | bonez39 | graphyx: well, I downloaded proftpd ... not finding great documentation on how to set it up though.. |
| 13:05.51 | bonez39 | why would the file's contents not be confidential? wouldn't having password requirement in place provide some assurance of security? |
| 13:06.19 | graphyx | Well when you transfer via ftp the entire file content is sent non encrypted. |
| 13:06.32 | graphyx | so anyone who happens to be watching when it happens gets to see it all. |
| 13:08.37 | bonez39 | ok.....isn't there a way to include ssl with ftp transfers? should I be looking to some other file transfer protocol, than ftp? |
| 13:08.52 | bonez39 | I need something encrypted then..ok |
| 13:17.09 | graphyx | Do you have access to ssh for them all |
| 13:17.09 | graphyx | ? |
| 13:21.36 | goozbach | bonez39: look at scponly |
| 13:21.45 | graphyx | Yeah.. |
| 13:21.47 | goozbach | you set up an ssh shell account |
| 13:21.52 | graphyx | winscp does the trick. |
| 13:22.00 | goozbach | then change the login shell to scponly |
| 13:22.02 | graphyx | ~emulate gir |
| 13:22.02 | ibot | where's my moose? |
| 13:22.22 | goozbach | then users will only be able to scp not shell to the remote system. |
| 13:22.35 | goozbach | AND it's all encrypted via ssh |
| 13:23.00 | goozbach | my walnuts!!! |
| 13:23.13 | graphyx | ~emulate gir |
| 13:23.13 | ibot | you SHALL not pass! .. he went that way. |
| 13:31.49 | bonez39 | graphyx: goozbach ok, I have used scp...I use it when linux to anything else, or winscp at home on win xp machine to grab office stuff here on linux.... |
| 13:32.38 | bonez39 | how though, do I restrict access, whether with scp of any flavor to just a specific directory? I don't want those whom I want to extend access to have freedom to roam all through my hard drive.. |
| 13:35.35 | graphyx | goozbach knows this way better than I do. |
| 13:35.41 | graphyx | I only know it is possible, but not how to do it. |
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| 14:37.16 | elg | morn |
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| 14:47.17 | elg | ~lart vontrapp_work |
| 14:47.40 | vontrapp_work | ~wrestle elg |
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| 15:52.16 | goozbach | there are settings with scponly I think that will chroot the enviroment |
| 15:52.38 | goozbach | if not you must carefully control filesystem permissions |
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| 15:55.38 | elg | ok, goozbach |
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| 16:12.35 | tene | I think you might able to set rsh up like that as well |
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| 16:21.54 | graphyx | hey, hans you work with AMP or just asterisk? |
| 16:25.43 | elg | just asterisk. I don't remember what AMP is but I have looked at it. |
| 16:37.08 | sjansen | hey fugalh, why the odd nick? |
| 16:37.22 | sjansen | just in an elg mood? |
| 16:37.55 | vontrapp | falcon is down |
| 16:38.03 | vontrapp | alternate nick |
| 16:39.55 | vontrapp | ~putty sjansen |
| 16:39.55 | ibot | ACTION rolls a thick putty bat and beats sjansen with it |
| 16:40.12 | tene | vontrapp: use 'sjnasen' |
| 16:41.15 | tensai | what's wrong with $nick_? |
| 16:41.29 | vontrapp | it's _boring_ |
| 16:41.45 | vontrapp | er,um, it's boring_ |
| 16:42.43 | tene | or use 'tesnai' |
| 16:43.23 | vontrapp | i would use flan, but that's taken |
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| 16:45.49 | hey_guys | hey guys! |
| 16:46.06 | vontrapp | hey_guys: hey guy |
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| 16:46.20 | tene | gurulabs, eh? |
| 16:46.28 | goozbach | yeah... busted... |
| 16:46.45 | goozbach | I should have used another host |
| 16:46.51 | tene | yeah |
| 16:47.29 | vontrapp | ~seen hey_guys |
| 16:47.32 | ibot | hey_guys <~dcarter@hq-nat2.gurulabs.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #utah, 1m 43s ago, saying: 'hey guys!'. |
| 16:48.06 | bonez39 | goozbach: you mentioned scponly... ist scponly a secure ftp server? |
| 16:48.12 | bonez39 | s/ist/is |
| 16:48.31 | tene | scponly is a shell |
| 16:48.33 | tene | like |
| 16:48.36 | goozbach | it's a shell that doesn't allow shell access |
| 16:48.47 | goozbach | like bash but only non-interative |
| 16:48.48 | tene | you'd set the login shell to 'scponly' |
| 16:48.56 | tene | or look into rsh |
| 16:49.41 | bonez39 | goozbach: oh, so I could set it up to make it demand conneciton only with scp.... ... right? |
| 16:50.06 | tene | yeah |
| 16:53.49 | tensai | it works with rsync, unison and sftp as well |
| 16:55.03 | graphyx | hans: do you have any links explaining what the fields of the CDR mean? |
| 16:58.03 | lars-ut | ~emulate Simon |
| 16:58.03 | ibot | Some guys are chasing after Cocofang! |
| 17:01.03 | RyanE | I love Cities and Knights |
| 17:01.08 | RyanE | but haven't played in years. |
| 17:01.52 | lars-ut | We play in Springville every Tuesday night. |
| 17:02.21 | RyanE | I have Games Night with former co-workers once a month, on a Friday. We've been doing it for over 10 years. |
| 17:02.33 | lars-ut | Wow - neat tradition. |
| 17:03.54 | RyanE | yeah, they're the guys I worked with at Erudite Software, my first job out of BYU |
| 17:04.30 | lars-ut | We've been playing weekly since March. Sometimes we play 'Ticket to Ride' as well. |
| 17:05.17 | graphyx | I like Carassonne, and Tigris and Euphrates |
| 17:05.28 | graphyx | Carcassonne |
| 17:05.42 | RyanE | I love Carcassone |
| 17:05.54 | RyanE | and Puerto Rico |
| 17:06.06 | lars-ut | ~google Carcassone |
| 17:07.22 | RyanE | http://www.funagaingames.com/control/product/~product_id=011110 |
| 17:09.08 | lars-ut | that's where I ended up too. I just read the back of the box. Tile-laying game, eh? |
| 17:09.27 | graphyx | YEah. |
| 17:09.30 | graphyx | it's quite fun. |
| 17:10.51 | lars-ut | Tigris & Euphrates http://funagain.com/control/product/~product_id=014637 |
| 17:11.22 | RyanE | yeah, we've played that as well. |
| 17:11.43 | RyanE | for a long time, we played 'Britannia' and 'History of the World'. Then we had a Catan phase several years back. |
| 17:11.47 | RyanE | it's been fun. |
| 17:11.57 | lars-ut | Do the Germans make all the best board games? |
| 17:11.58 | vontrapp | there was some pirate game a roommate of mine had |
| 17:12.04 | RyanE | they sure seem to. |
| 17:12.31 | vontrapp | you started with four boats, tried to get the gold and take it to your base |
| 17:12.32 | tene | So, in this application I'm trying to modify, every time a field is added or removed from Users or Leads or similar things, the db table itself is modified. |
| 17:12.35 | tene | Adding and removing columns. |
| 17:12.40 | vontrapp | sink other boats by landing directly on them |
| 17:12.41 | vontrapp | it was fun |
| 17:13.31 | Bradipo | Carcassone is alright, but I prefer Settlers. |
| 17:13.43 | Bradipo | And lately it appears that all the good games are German made. :-) |
| 17:14.30 | RyanE | Samurai also rocks. http://funagain.com/control/product/~product_id=004487 |
| 17:14.36 | Bradipo | A fun game that I used to play is Shadowlord (out of print now) and Fortress America (also out of print), both of which I still have. :-) |
| 17:16.59 | lars-ut | http://www.computerpoweruser.com/email.asp?emid=131249 - My Free Logo Adventure by Pete Loshin |
| 17:23.05 | levi | I had Terrapin Logo. |
| 17:23.07 | jsmith | lars-ut: Probably Terrapin |
| 17:23.36 | lars-ut | I still remember RPT 5 [FWD 10 RT 144] |
| 17:23.58 | lars-ut | don't know if the syntax is right |
| 17:25.50 | levi | I've forgotten Logo syntax. |
| 17:26.19 | levi | But Logo is cool, nonetheless. :) |
| 17:27.08 | lars-ut | Logo will always be cool. |
| 17:28.18 | RyanE | the Logo craze must've happened after my time. I *did* do Applesoft and Integer Basic *and* the wonderful 2-floppy UCSD Pascal on the Apple II, though. |
| 17:31.13 | lars-ut | I remember using graph paper to help me plot out bitmaps in Applesoft Basic. My family bought a IIGS later and with the new modes/resoutions my little graphics programs began to look remarkably like the old Lines windows screen saver. |
| 17:31.51 | jsmith | lars-ut: You too, eh? Only learned binary so that you could draw graphics on the screen? |
| 17:32.34 | lars-ut | Well, randomly colored parabolic line mostly. |
| 17:34.04 | jsmith | Anybody here an expert on journaling filesystems? |
| 17:34.42 | tensai | jsmith: journal == good |
| 17:34.53 | tensai | no journal == bad |
| 17:35.12 | lars-ut | JFS = fast deletes & good overall speed |
| 17:37.13 | tensai | reiserfs is great for small files |
| 17:37.32 | tensai | rebuilding a 168GB reiserfs partition is a beast. plan on a good 24 hours. |
| 17:37.51 | lars-ut | reiserfs formatting alone takes a long time |
| 17:38.05 | tensai | true. so does mounting |
| 17:38.56 | lars-ut | Without using LVM, which journaling filesystems support resizing? I know that XFS does, are there others? |
| 17:40.13 | tensai | most can resize up. only reiserfs and ext3 can go down. |
| 17:57.58 | bowser | carcassonne rocks |
| 17:58.09 | jsmith | Actually, I'm looking for a journaling filesystem (or filesystem option) that will work well with databases. In the past, I know that journaling filesystems absolutely kill performance on database servers. |
| 18:08.01 | vontrapp | how does jabber authorization work? |
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| 18:26.27 | graphyx | vontrapp does the pukes: mean you don't like the site or is that just a way of presenting URLs? |
| 18:28.34 | vontrapp | um, i don't like the site, but i wouldn't be surprised if i puked it up, it's ugly enough |
| 18:28.54 | JoshH | i was gonna say, after looking at the site i would assume it was the former |
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| 18:43.56 | goozbach | what's with the funky pictures |
| 18:43.57 | goozbach | ? |
| 18:44.19 | graphyx | Those are a bit umm.... unique? |
| 18:45.51 | tene | traced the segfault to PHP's 'session_unregister' |
| 18:46.07 | goozbach | WOW! |
| 18:46.15 | vontrapp | o.0 |
| 18:46.20 | vontrapp | ~dew goozbach |
| 18:46.20 | ibot | ACTION hands goozbach a 24 pack of mountain dew then leaves the room and locks the door |
| 18:46.30 | tene | PHP docs say 'don't use session_unregister if you use the $_SESSION variable. use unset instead.' |
| 18:46.42 | vontrapp | hehe |
| 18:46.46 | tene | changed the code to use 'unset', and it doesn't segfault anymore. |
| 18:46.52 | goozbach | I think it has to do with the fact that I can now make straberyr milkshakes on demand now |
| 18:47.05 | goozbach | I've had three milkshakes already |
| 18:47.19 | vontrapp | can you make chocolate ones? |
| 18:47.35 | graphyx | Just find him some chocolateberries and he will be happy ot. |
| 18:47.39 | graphyx | s/ot/to/ |
| 18:48.11 | goozbach | or I could mix bawls instead of milk... |
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| 19:26.14 | goozbach | how'd it go? |
| 19:27.06 | Maquis | ok |
| 19:27.14 | goozbach | just ok? |
| 19:27.49 | Maquis | they asked a few questions that were *way* out of scope for my project |
| 19:27.55 | Maquis | but my manager said it went well |
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| 20:24.30 | goozbach | http://www.nothingisreal.com/girlfriend/ |
| 20:24.41 | goozbach | why I'll never have a girlfriend |
| 20:25.11 | tensai | sfw? |
| 20:26.37 | tene | looks like it |
| 20:27.53 | goozbach | yup |
| 20:28.01 | Maquis | tensai: what's a sfw? |
| 20:28.13 | tensai | safe for work |
| 20:28.33 | Maquis | ah |
| 20:28.51 | tensai | first thing that popped into my head was Real Doll, which most definitely is NSFW |
| 20:29.12 | goozbach | http://www.big-boys.com/pictures/picture1084.html |
| 20:29.24 | goozbach | another reason I may never have a girlfriend. |
| 20:29.31 | goozbach | I may try this sometime |
| 20:29.43 | goozbach | also safe for work |
| 20:39.04 | Maquis | irssi kinda-sorta looks like it could be work... |
| 20:39.59 | tene | hehe |
| 20:40.04 | hans | it's a statistical analysis based on population as to why he'll never find a girlfriend |
| 20:40.06 | tene | naughty Maquis |
| 20:40.08 | tensai | *** MAQUIS ISN'T WORKING *** |
| 20:40.28 | hans | unfortunately everything was great until the very last point |
| 20:40.35 | tene | which one? |
| 20:40.35 | tensai | now, to write a script to echo that every couple minutes... |
| 20:40.54 | tene | ~figlet NOT WORK |
| 20:40.57 | hans | that he'd try to find a girlfriend by blind dating |
| 20:41.01 | tene | yeah |
| 20:41.08 | tene | like |
| 20:41.24 | tene | He didn't consider the self-sorting aspect of social interaction |
| 20:42.32 | tensai | I'd say the second link was a much better example of someone who'll never marry |
| 20:43.00 | goozbach | /bin/sh: -c: line 1: unexpected EOF while looking for matching `'' |
| 20:43.00 | goozbach | /bin/sh: -c: line 2: syntax error: unexpected end of file |
| 20:43.05 | goozbach | doh |
| 20:43.24 | goozbach | /bin/sh: -c: line 1: unexpected EOF while looking for matching `'' |
| 20:43.25 | goozbach | /bin/sh: -c: line 2: syntax error: unexpected end of file |
| 20:44.19 | tene | heh |
| 20:44.40 | goozbach | doh again |
| 20:44.54 | goozbach | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:44.54 | goozbach | | ____| _ \|_ _| \ | | |_ _/ ___| | \ | |/ _ \_ _| |
| 20:44.54 | goozbach | | _| | |_) || || \| | | |\___ \ | \| | | | || | |
| 20:44.54 | goozbach | | |___| _ < | || |\ | | | ___) | | |\ | |_| || | |
| 20:44.54 | goozbach | |_____|_| \_\___|_| \_| |___|____/ |_| \_|\___/ |_| |
| 20:44.56 | goozbach | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:44.59 | goozbach | __ _____ ____ _ _____ _ _ ____ _ _ _ |
| 20:45.02 | goozbach | \ \ / / _ \| _ \| |/ /_ _| \ | |/ ___| | | | |
| 20:45.04 | goozbach | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:45.07 | goozbach | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:45.09 | goozbach | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:45.12 | goozbach | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:45.14 | goozbach | better |
| 20:45.17 | tene | quite |
| 20:46.02 | goozbach | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:46.03 | goozbach | |_ _| |__ (_)___ (_)___ _ __ ___ | |_ __ _____ _ __| | _| | |
| 20:46.03 | goozbach | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:46.03 | goozbach | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:46.03 | goozbach | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:46.05 | goozbach | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:46.25 | tene | that breaks on 80-col |
| 20:46.26 | graphyx | goozbach: I can't make that out what is it supposed to say? |
| 20:46.48 | goozbach | graphyx: you should use a fixed space font |
| 20:47.15 | vontrapp | i can't read it either, too long for my term |
| 20:47.22 | goozbach | I have to remember that not everybody has a 200col terminal |
| 20:47.26 | tene | says 'this is not work' |
| 20:47.34 | vontrapp | try figlet -w 60 |
| 20:47.53 | goozbach | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:47.53 | goozbach | |_ _| |__ (_)___ (_)___ _ __ ___ | |_ |
| 20:47.53 | goozbach | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:47.53 | goozbach | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:47.53 | goozbach | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:47.55 | goozbach | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:47.58 | goozbach | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:48.00 | goozbach | __ _____ _ __| | __ |
| 20:48.03 | goozbach | \ \ /\ / / _ \| '__| |/ / |
| 20:48.05 | goozbach | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:48.08 | goozbach | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:48.10 | vontrapp | much better |
| 20:48.10 | goozbach | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:48.11 | tene | YAY! |
| 20:48.26 | levi | Crapflooder. :P |
| 20:49.53 | emcnabb | http://cgi.ebay.com/MYSTERY-BOX-Could-be-Worth-Thousands-of_W0QQitemZ5601828847QQcategoryZ102534QQtcZphotoQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem |
| 20:51.50 | graphyx | That's funny.... |
| 20:51.56 | hans | heh |
| 20:52.40 | tyce | the things ebayers come up with |
| 20:53.19 | hans | TimRiker: there's what you can do with all those boxes. |
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| 21:06.40 | TimRiker | hans: huh? spam the channel with large text? |
| 21:06.50 | tyce | ok |
| 21:07.29 | hans | emcnabb's link |
| 21:08.29 | TimRiker | ahh. an almost empty usps box. must be work 10 cents at least. |
| 21:10.37 | TimRiker | goozbach: what app did you use for that? |
| 21:11.41 | hans | probably figlet |
| 21:21.14 | goozbach | irssi and figlet |
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| 21:21.25 | goozbach | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:21.44 | vontrapp | must have figlet installed, of course |
| 21:24.10 | TimRiker | <PROTECTED> |
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| 21:25.11 | dataw0lf | ergh |
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| 21:34.34 | Maquis | bah |
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| 21:53.55 | sjansen | ~poke goozbach |
| 21:53.55 | ibot | but then who will poke the pokers, sjansen? synic? |
| 21:56.23 | mrpull | any cold fusion hackers in the house? |
| 21:57.07 | graphyx | The debug page gives you local path information that could be useful.. |
| 21:57.15 | graphyx | Oh you probably meant programmers.. |
| 21:57.16 | graphyx | ;) |
| 21:57.18 | goozbach | sjansen: zup? |
| 21:57.29 | mrpull | :) |
| 22:00.22 | mrpull | my question is a generic web-dev question really |
| 22:00.48 | mrpull | i've got a site behind a load balancer with SSL acceleration |
| 22:01.29 | mrpull | how do I tell on the web servers if the client is connected with https or http? |
| 22:01.46 | mrpull | the webservers themselves serve http only, the load balancer does the SSL |
| 22:12.23 | levi | Is there an SSL header or something? |
| 22:18.32 | sjansen | goozbach, :-P |
| 22:23.15 | mrpull | levi: unfortunately the loadbalancer acts as a proxy. It makes http requests to the servers themselves. I'm not sure if there is a header. |
| 22:23.24 | mrpull | (i'm not the coder, i'm the load balancer admin) |
| 22:25.37 | sjansen | as the load balancer admin, you should find out if it can add a header indicating if the connection came over https |
| 22:27.33 | mrpull | i can do a redirect on the loadbalancer itself, but rather the coders do it on the dynamically (they like to change things a lot) |
| 22:27.50 | mrpull | ...do it on their pages dynamically... if possible |
| 22:27.56 | mrpull | sjansen: but you are right. |
| 22:28.20 | mrpull | a header can get stuffed in by the load balancer too |
| 22:28.52 | mrpull | my question is to discover a work around that avoids touching my equipment (at the expense of the coders of course!) |
| 22:31.00 | tene | heh |
| 22:31.03 | tene | well |
| 22:31.34 | tene | sniff on a proxied box |
| 22:31.36 | mrpull | You know coders, they'd disrupt the network core 10 times a day if you let them |
| 22:31.39 | tene | and look at the connection coming in |
| 22:31.46 | tene | and see if it's any different |
| 22:31.48 | mrpull | ;0) |
| 22:49.48 | vontrapp | must have figlet installed, of course |
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| 23:13.36 | lukfugl | heya |
| 23:13.40 | tene | hey |
| 23:14.34 | lukfugl | anyone know of a postgresql gotcha where a foreign key constraint would *not* be applied? I've got a table, placed a foreign key constraint on it, but I can still insert bogus data |
| 23:15.01 | lukfugl | At the same time, I have a different pair of tables with a similar constraint, and the constraint works fine there |
| 23:15.58 | lukfugl | I compare the constraints via selecting from pg_constraint and they look the same except for the tables/keys |
| 23:16.28 | tene | paste the relevant 'describe's somewhere? |
| 23:20.04 | lukfugl | tene: discovered something as I was preparing those pastes |
| 23:20.26 | lukfugl | Inserting directly to the table works as expected (prevented by foreign key) |
| 23:20.53 | lukfugl | It's when inserting into a table that inherits from the original that the key is ignored |
| 23:21.16 | lukfugl | so I have table A with the constraint, and B inherits from A. Inserting data into B doesn't check the constraint |
| 23:21.44 | lukfugl | wonder if that's a bug or a "feature" |
| 23:22.51 | tene | tried #postgresql? |
| 23:23.32 | lukfugl | tene: asking in there now |
| 23:23.36 | tene | sweet |
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| 23:36.01 | levi | But there's an 'm' and an 'e'. |
| 23:36.51 | lukfugl | and spanish |
| 23:37.01 | lukfugl | but there's no 'yo' in 'equipo' |
| 23:37.09 | lars-ut | lol |
| 23:37.37 | lars-ut | ~lart compromises |
| 23:39.43 | lars-ut | ~emulate Bill |
| 23:39.43 | ibot | Slow down, little man. Today, you're going to see things that are going to change the way you look at the world. Keep your eyes and your mind open. |
| 23:41.15 | lukfugl | ~emulate gir |
| 23:41.15 | ibot | aww, my bees... |
| 23:42.23 | lars-ut | ~emulate gaz |
| 23:42.23 | ibot | Let it be known that from this day, until the end of the day, vengeance will be mine. Dib, you will not know the meaning of peace, for I shall rain misery down upon your pizza stealing heart! |
| 23:46.51 | lukfugl | ~emulate dib |
| 23:46.52 | ibot | I'm delicious! No one should be this delicious! |