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01:35.23Newsomespr: you around?
01:36.43linuxalienHey people
02:06.14sprNewsome, yes
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02:23.44MaquisNewsome: what happened to basilisk?
02:35.56sprMaquis, OIT did something silly, department access is down for a bit
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03:03.06Maquisspr: mmk
03:03.24Maquiswhat exactly did OIT do?
03:03.35Maquisi want my screen session back!
03:04.22linuxalienAnyone here try vida linux?
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04:07.15brailsmtanyone aware of any documentation on the format of a cscope.out file?
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05:05.14NewsomeMaquis: department access should be back
05:05.21MaquisNewsome: thanks
05:05.25Maquisgood to hear
05:05.32Maquiswhat'd they do?
05:06.38NewsomeThey've been going through all the buildings and reassigning IPs so that they can put everyone on private IP addresses behind a NAT.
05:06.43NewsomeToday was the TMCB
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05:07.17Maquishey!
05:07.27Newsome???
05:07.46Maquisit signed on too quickly for me
05:07.48Newsomeyou still around?
05:08.02leviGah, stupid tile mortar stuff had incorrect mixing directions on the package. :/
05:08.05Newsomedid you catch what I said?
05:08.11leviNow I have to wake up early to finish the floor.
05:08.12Maquisyeah... twice :)
05:08.16Newsomeah, okay
05:08.37Newsomeso, they gave us new IPs, and told us both sets would be active until September 1.
05:08.44Maquisfun
05:08.54NewsomeThen they gave us new IPs for our firewall.
05:09.03Maquisfun
05:09.30NewsomeWhat they _didn't_ tell us was that our _OLD_ firewall IPs would't work after tonight.
05:11.09NewsomeWe'll be redoing all the IPs, and most of our lab machines will have to end up on private IPs, so they won't be accessible directly from the internet.
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05:29.52Maquisthat sucks
05:30.01Maquisi like having basilisk available direct
05:32.04leviG'night.
05:32.07NewsomeI understand.
05:33.10NewsomeWe're also looking at possibilities for a VPN, etc., but we'll have to see how that goes.
05:33.24Maquisfun
06:00.27dataw0lf-woot. Back from DC.  Me == exhausted
06:01.39dataw0lf-bigdog_ut: you around ?
06:02.53bigdog_utyeah
06:03.01bigdog_utwhatz up
06:03.28dataw0lf-ah, word, just saying hi.
06:03.39bigdog_uthow was the conf?
06:03.42bigdog_utor DC
06:04.02dataw0lf-'twas fun.  Especially the drama over the Cisco thing.
06:04.10bigdog_utwhat was that?
06:05.28dataw0lf-the critical vulnerabilities in IOS that Mike Lynn leaked at a BH presentation, and Cisco swooped in and confiscated EVERYTHING.
06:05.43dataw0lf-We're not talking about x '1337 sploit' here, either.
06:06.08dataw0lf-we're talking about Cisco equipment fully vulnerable to remote access.
06:06.23bigdog_utwow and this happened at the conf?
06:06.35dataw0lf-you haven't heard about this yet?  I just got back to the 'real world' so I don't know how much has been released on it.
06:06.42dataw0lf-He presented it at BlackHat.
06:07.00bigdog_utno not really...i have been in trouble at work
06:07.08bigdog_utso i have no time to do anything really
06:07.16bigdog_utthey have cut all my network privs
06:07.22dataw0lf-heh.
06:07.24bigdog_uti got written up and all
06:07.31dataw0lf-god.
06:07.34bigdog_utso when i get home i just work
06:07.39bigdog_uttell me about it
06:07.43dataw0lf-they should be patching all their Cisco equipment instead.
06:07.46bigdog_utits like i work with little kids
06:07.53bigdog_utlol
06:08.06bigdog_uti dont think that will ever happen
06:08.31bigdog_utwho knows...i have been banned
06:08.46bigdog_uti almost just quit the job
06:08.53bigdog_utbut had to swallow the pride for the family
06:09.41bigdog_utthey told me i was playing cat n mouse games with the network guys
06:09.57bigdog_utthat i had installed snort to protect my box
06:10.03dataw0lf-hehe
06:10.08bigdog_uti was like do you guys even know what snort is
06:10.17bigdog_uti laughed
06:10.17dataw0lf-your network admins must be retards.
06:10.29bigdog_utthey are not really admins that is the thing
06:10.44bigdog_utand of course they were looking for stuff to get on me
06:11.27bigdog_utbut i get to rebuttal the written warning...which i am working on doing
06:11.39dataw0lf-sweet.
06:11.45bigdog_utoh and they made me move to windows again
06:11.49bigdog_utsaid i was a threat
06:11.51bigdog_uton linux
06:11.52bigdog_utlol
06:11.55bigdog_utso i had to do that
06:11.59dataw0lf-obviously.
06:12.09dataw0lf-everyone knows Linux is a hax0r to the max0r OS.
06:12.19bigdog_utno doubt
06:13.20bigdog_utso i have been pretty pissed
06:13.33bigdog_utthe thing that really pisses me off is that they accused me of not working
06:13.53dataw0lf-heh.
06:14.10bigdog_utthat was really the thing that i was mad about
06:15.44bigdog_utits like a slap to my face
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06:31.11Hhhhhhello
07:17.17xbmodderanyone willin to help a dns newb?
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14:48.49tycehey all you mythtv users out there, I saw this deal today and thought I would pass it on:  http://www.buy.com/retail/product.asp?sku=10386574&adid=17662
14:49.28tycewith that said, anyone have this card already?  want to pass on any advice?
14:50.41sprtyce, using the card here, works well, though the driver still has some issues (currently can only use one of the two tuners in myth)
14:52.39sprthough the driver is in fairly heavy development, so the kinks should get worked out soon
14:53.01sprstrangely, the tuner that myth doesn't like, works outside of myth.
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14:54.42tycespr: cool, thanks for the input
14:55.29tyceI would like another tuner, but need to find a dual tuner card because the little shuttle box Im using only has one pci slot
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14:58.41lars-ut~emulate Bill
14:58.42ibotCome on, Fang! Let's dance!
14:59.25lars-ut~emulate Dib
14:59.25ibotSee Gaz, to defeat my enemy I must study my enemy, then become my enemy, then move in with my enemy, then wear my enemies clothes, then...
15:01.18Jayce^hrm
15:01.18Jayce^http://www.apple.com/mightymouse/
15:05.27hansso let me get this straight. multi-button mice are bad, but a single-button mouse that magically senses where you click is good? seems like a fundamental flaw in design assumptions
15:05.33hansbut the little scroll ball looks cool.
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15:11.48bonez41how do I set up an ftp server? would I already have one installed, if not set up, on my debian system?
15:13.14lars-utapt-get install proftpd
15:15.38bonez41lars-ut, thanks.....
15:16.44lars-utno problem - netstat -ta should give you a list of all servers running on your system.
15:21.04lars-utbonez41: I should clarify that 'netstat -ta' only shows TCP sockets.  You'll have to add u for UDP, w for RAW, and X for UNIX connections.  'netstat -a' will show them all.
15:21.38lars-uts/X/x
15:21.46Maquisstupid stupid stupid stupid
15:22.03lars-ut~cokezero Maquis
15:22.03ibotACTION puts an iv in Maquis and forces 120 ounces of Coke Zero into his veins
15:22.10lars-uts/his/her
15:22.18Maquisnever add an if statement between an if and an else
15:22.27Maquisbecause the compiler isn't going to catch it
15:23.04lars-utloop of death?
15:24.28Maquisno...  it just wasn't getting into the else when it was supposed to
15:24.37Maquisbecause it was hitting the other if, and going in there
15:25.03lars-utHow long did that take to figure out?
15:25.50Maquislonger than it probably should've
15:26.55lars-utI'm good at shooting myself in the foot as well.  2 weeks ago I imaged over the top of my 17GIG mp3 collection.  gone.
15:27.31Maquisouch
15:28.05Maquisi was talking with one of the other interns here about the tendency, in linux, to hit enter, then think
15:28.26Maquisit's a bad habit, but i've done it far too many things
15:28.31Maquiss/things/times
15:28.41lars-uttoo powerful for mere mortals sometimes.
15:29.44lars-utThe first 2 programs I used to image were too slow, so I tried a 3rd but the app enumerated the drives the opposite of the first 2 progs - I realized this after pressing enter.
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15:31.28Maquislars-ut: why were you just shaking your clueless coworker?
15:31.47leviMaquis: He's not; I am.
15:32.01leviMaquis: Because he keeps asking me questions he ought to know the answers to.
15:34.13JoshHsuch as?
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15:47.30vontrapp"I am mordac, the preventer of Information Technology"
15:47.44Maquisvontrapp: i've been enjoying those
15:49.11lars-utvontrapp: link?
15:50.40Maquislars-ut: dilbert
15:51.08lars-utwow - I haven't read that for years
15:53.31hansheh
15:53.35vontrapphmmm, anyone get the latest firefox?
15:53.37hansfroward, ho!
15:53.59vontrappseems middle-click in the content area no longer loads the link in the clipboard
15:54.13hanswhat?
15:55.29Maquisvontrapp: is that what the middle-click does?
15:55.41hansi use that about 1000 times every day
15:55.43Maquisi've always been curious what it was that it was doing whenever i accidentally middle-clicked someplace
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15:56.04hans~lart emcn
15:56.07vontrappwill look in a minute
15:56.12Maquis~lart emcnabb
15:57.43vontrapp"Froward"?
15:58.18Maquisvontrapp: yes
15:58.21Maquisthat's correct
15:59.40hans*sigh* creating custom graphs in cacti is fairly convoluted.
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16:04.07vontrappmiddlemouse.contentLoadURL user set boolean true
16:04.15vontrappyet, no worky
16:04.38vontrapp~lart firefox
16:04.58vontrappgo and break one of my favorite features
16:09.10Maquishmmm...
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16:20.48vontrappsooo noisy
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16:36.46vontrapp~lart ubuntu for not keeping previous package versions
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16:46.13lars-utTimRiker:  is there a way to grep ibot's factoids for ones I created?
16:46.46TimRikerlars-ut: hmm. I can do it in SQL, don't recall if there is an exposed method.
16:47.43lars-utIf you could pm me the result set I'd appreciate it.
16:47.49TimRikeribot: listauth lars-ut
16:47.50ibotfactoid author list by 'lars-ut' (15 of 16): emulate "ms bitters" ;; cocofang ;; rightnow ;; emulate bill ;; count cocofang ;; you're a waste of electrons ;; bbcnews #DEL# ;; emulate farmer hogget ;; emulate simon ;; emulate gaz ;; literal "emulate ms bitters" ;; bbc news #DEL# ;; cmd: grinbig (.*?) ;; "lars-ut" ;; countdown starwars.
16:47.58TimRikerI uess there is. ;-)
16:48.03TimRikerer guess...
16:48.10lars-utthat works - thanks
16:48.30TimRikeribot: listauth TimRiker
16:48.30ibotfactoid author list by 'TimRiker' (14 of 110): #bzflag download ;; #bzflag noserversfound ;; .ws ;; botpark ;; bzcvs ;; bzflag-dev's pager ;; cmd: abcd (.*?) ;; cmd: blame (.*?) for (.*?) ;; cmd: host (.*?) ;; cmd: irritate (.*?) ;; cmd: oper (.*?) ;; cmd: pester (.*?) ;; cmd: whaleblock (.*?) ;; emulate refactoring.
16:48.35TimRiker=)
16:48.44lars-ut~emulate farmer hogget
16:48.44ibotThat'll do, pig. That'll do.
16:49.59tene~emulate gir
16:49.59ibotmust obey the taco man!
16:50.02tene~emulate dib
16:50.02ibotI'm delicious!  No one should be this delicious!
16:50.05tene~emulate gaz
16:50.05ibotHe stole my GameSlave and now he's gonna pay.
16:50.37tene~emulate ms bitters
16:50.37ibotThere's a pigeon on your head! You've got head pigeons! Get to the nurse before they spread to the other children!
16:52.57lars-utTimRiker: 110?  Is that all?
16:53.21Maquis~listauth maquis
16:53.21ibotfactoid author list by 'maquis' (16 of 19): whimper ;; cmd: pounce (.*?) ;; cmd: sleep (.*?) #DEL# ;; cmd: convince (.*?) (.*?) ;; cmd: ruler (.*?) ;; go eat worms ;; cmd: sniff (.*?) ;; lurk ;; gargle ;; your larts ;; cmd: hamlet (.*?) ;; timeout ;; cmd: bonk (.*?) ;; cackle #DEL# ;; your duels ;; cmd: likes (.*?) #DEL#.
16:53.29teneInteresting...
16:53.39tenelars-ut killed spr!
16:53.54tene~listauth tene
16:53.54ibotfactoid author list by 'tene' (10): disraction #DEL# ;; ibot brailsmt ;; erins ;; stultissimus ;; disraction ;; fune ;; chance ;; google-fu ;; burn ;; roar.
16:54.07lars-ut?
16:54.19Maquis~go eat worms
16:54.20iboto/~ nobody likes me, everybody hates me, i guess i'll go eat worms o/~
16:54.39tene10:52 < lars-ut> TimRiker: 110?  Is that all?
16:54.40graphyx~google-fu
16:54.40ibotgoogle-fu is probably the ability to find absolutely anything with a single google query
16:54.40tene10:52 -!- spr has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
16:54.49tene~erins
16:54.49ibotmethinks erins is Maquis
16:54.55tene~fune
16:54.55ibotrumour has it, fune is not fun
16:55.00tene~chance
16:55.00ibot|roulette
16:55.04tene~roar
16:55.04ibotWRAAA!!
16:55.10tene~ibot
16:55.10ibotmethinks ibot is a blootbot written in perl run by TimRiker on his server. logs on http://ibot.rikers.org/<chan>/ , ibot, jbot, apt are all the same process. It uses sqlite, but mysql or other SQL storage is also supported.
16:55.29tene~brailsmt
16:55.29ibothmm... brailsmt is chocolate-covered *CHERRY PIE!!!!*
16:55.42jsmith~listauth jsmith
16:55.42ibotfactoid author list by 'jsmith' (4): swe3 ;; jsmith ;; sees in black and white ;; zombify.
16:55.52tene~sees in black and white
16:55.52ibothmm... sees in black and white is ibot a dog?
16:56.04lars-uttene killed Kenny!
16:56.04tene*blink*
16:56.12tene~jsmith
16:56.12iboti guess jsmith is perpetually hungry
16:56.19teneibot: jsmith is also insane
16:56.19ibottene: okay
16:56.31lars-ut~tene
16:56.31ibottene is, like, Tenebram, or the king of pirate, or my god, or chocolate covered sugar bombs
16:56.31jsmithibot: tene is also a liar
16:56.31ibotjsmith: okay
17:01.46hans~listauth sjansen
17:01.46ibotfactoid author list by 'sjansen' (16 of 28): cmd: toast (.*?) ;; eighties ;; cmd: dropkick (.*?) ;; cmd: funkybomb (.*?) ;; ffxii ;; cmd: throttle (.*?) ;; newsome ;; cmd: attack (.*?) ;; pounce ;; proprietary ;; cmd: bo bodyslam (.*?) ;; cmd: shoot (.*?) ;; cmd: fine (.*?) ;; cmd: punish (.*?) ;; cmd: wrap (.*?) ;; scorched3d.
17:02.03tene~eighties
17:02.04iboteighties are a decade of great music and movies, but odd fashion
17:02.07tene~seventies
17:02.12tene~nineties
17:02.21tene~proprietary
17:02.21ibotI don't like it when people swear. Please stop.
17:02.27tene~pounce
17:02.27ibotACTION jumps on tene and bounces around Tigger style
17:03.02tene~literal emulate gir
17:03.02ibot"emulate gir" is "<reply>where's my moose?||<reply>must obey the taco man!||<reply>dooom doooom doom||<reply>i need tacos! i need tacos or i'll explode.  that happens to me sometimes.||<reply>you SHALL not pass! .. he went that way.||<reply>to make room for the TUNA!||<reply>yay!||<reply>do a little dance!||<reply>my walnuts!||<reply>aww, my bees..."
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17:41.53vontrapp~listauth vontrapp
17:41.53ibotfactoid author list by 'vontrapp' (18 of 28): cmd: poker (.*?) with (.*?) ;; cmd: renamestadium (.*?) ;; ruolette ;; cmd: spider (.*?) ;; skas ;; freecraft ;; emulate gir ~= /^/|\|why ;; miia ;; /jedifoo (.*)/ ;; jbot no vontrapp ;; essid ;; loto ;; tierra ;; *bang* ;; great depression ;; dlugar ;; ssid ;; strongsad.
17:42.08Maquis~spider vontrapp
17:42.08ibotACTION unleashes a camel spider on vontrapp
17:42.54vontrapp~strongsad
17:42.55ibotI'm sad that I'm flying
17:43.36vontrapp~forget emulate gir ~= /^/|\|why
17:43.36ibotvontrapp: i forgot emulate gir ~= /^/|\|why
17:43.44vontrappibot, good
17:43.44ibotrumour has it, good is an adjective
17:43.54vontrapp~miia
17:43.54iboti guess miia is Missing in INaction
17:44.11vontrapp~skas
17:44.11ibotsomebody said skas was Seperate Kernal Address Space
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17:48.01vontrapp~great depression
17:48.01ibotA sad and dark time in the history of #utah. Late 2004 I was MIA for a couple weeks. Fortunately hans filled the void with another bot, else all #utah suffered great despair. Alas, now brigham and I are mortal enemies.
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18:59.38tensaihost -t mx publicaster.com
19:01.36JoshHyikes
19:02.13tensaigee, I can't understand why my MTA has a problem with that
19:02.29tensaialthough it probably shouldn't be segfaulting...
19:02.33JoshHthats nuts
19:02.58tensaiyeah, I think somebody doesn't quite grok what an MX is supposed to be for
19:03.01jsmithThat's one way to force TCP queries...
19:03.34tensaijsmith: :)
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19:04.01jsmithtensai: I'm just looking for plausible reasons why someone would do that.
19:09.31jsmithtensai: I mean, nobody does that on accident, right?
19:09.44tensaino, certainly not
19:09.53jsmithtensai: Some kind of anti-spam measure, thinking on spammers would chose an MX record from the middle of the pile?
19:11.05tensaithat's my guess as well. I wonder if those all have the same A record.
19:11.37tensainope, different IPs
19:11.59tensaicould be a pathetic attempt at "enterprise" deployment
19:12.36tensaiwaste of a perfectly good /24
19:14.18tensaiyay. my workaround worked! around even
19:22.58jsmithWhich was?
19:23.17tensaihttp://www.zmonkey.org/blog/node/48
19:25.44goozbacheach one has it's own ip address as well
19:26.05goozbachI wonder how many phsical host that translates to
19:26.08teneSo who *is* publicaster anyway?
19:27.10goozbachhttp://www.publicaster.com/enterprise_smtp/log_in.cfm
19:27.13tensaisome of them don't respond, all the ones I've gotten to claim to be blueskyfactory01.bsf01.com
19:27.27goozbachtitle says "email marketing"
19:27.35goozbachI say blacklistem
19:27.56tensaithat would probably put out my customer who is trying to email them
19:28.38tensaiTo: <Senator.Bill.Frist@publicaster.com>
19:28.52goozbachahh
19:28.53tensaiI'm thinking Billy is using publicaster to send out newsletters
19:30.07goozbachbluesky looks to be a marketing company
19:30.21tensaiI signed up for his mailing list. we'll see what that one says
19:30.25ralphsnarthey guys - didn't mean to be a lurker there for so long
19:30.51goozbachmeh! ralphsnart if they give you crap I'll back you up
19:31.05ralphsnartgooooOOO goozbach!
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19:31.37goozbachjust watch out for TimRiker :)
19:31.55tensaigrr. my home MTA is acting up again. why do I have to keep "tweaking" it?
19:31.57goozbachif you can't tell, the majority of us lurk here anyway
19:32.19goozbachwell everybody but tensai anywho...
19:32.23goozbach:)
19:32.28TimRiker~lart goozbach
19:32.30TimRikerhmm. ibot lagging?
19:32.30tensai~smash goozbach
19:32.30ibotACTION flings an anvil in goozbach's general direction
19:32.31ralphsnartheh, reply to email, IM people, pop caffeine, repeat
19:33.15goozbachYou'll never stop me!!!
19:33.18goozbachbuhahahahah
19:34.15goozbachbluesky does have one thing going for it.
19:34.30goozbachthat's a hot chick on that fancy flash banner
19:36.10jsmithgoozbach: As in Blue Sky, the wireless ISP?  Yeach...
19:36.40goozbachblueskyfactory.com
19:36.43Jayce^blue sky mining co.?  :)
19:38.01tensaigoozbach: are you sure you didn't go to www.blueskyswimwear.com by mistake?
19:39.35goozbachoh maybe so...
19:40.20goozbachmuch better
19:45.05lars-ut"One more thing we'd need a site (and preferably several mirrors) where we could put the torrents for download. Probably should not be on the box that handles the tracker, because those sites will likely get a pounding as people try to download the torrents."
19:45.44lars-utAny volunteers?  I'm going to dedicate one connection to this.
19:45.56goozbachabout how much traffic?
19:46.12lars-utwe're going to try to get slashdotted.
19:46.29tensaiwhoah. count me out then. (officially anyway)
19:46.50goozbachto hell with it then, bigfatchubby.com will sponsor a mirror
19:47.11lars-utwoohoo!
19:47.18goozbachthe exposure will be worth the extra bandwidth
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19:47.50Jayce^plug.org will
19:48.02RyanEjust make your links to the item of interest go through Coral Cache.
19:48.09lars-utkeep in mind we're not just looking for mirrors but torrent seeders as well.
19:48.09Jayce^my personal box is on the same net, so that wouldn't help too much :)
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19:49.21lars-utlol
19:49.37goozbachxm balloon++
19:49.39tenegah...
19:49.44lars-utstill lol
19:49.46tenewhy does php have to be so broken and boring?
19:49.49tene~php
19:49.49ibotHTML-embedded scripting language. URL: http://www.php.net/, or gimpy like python, or an incredible pain.
19:49.56goozbach~peg sjansen
19:50.02tene~weep
19:50.04goozbach~paint sjansen
19:50.04ibotACTION rains a tape stream of paintballs on sjansen
19:50.07sjansen~tree goozbach
19:50.07ibotACTION sizes up a tree and chops it down in just the right place to fall on goozbach.
19:50.11lars-utthanks goozbach, Jayce
19:50.18tene~explode pghp
19:50.18ibotACTION blows up pghp with bombs
19:50.20teneack
19:50.23tenegah
19:50.30goozbachargh!!!
19:50.52sjansengoozbach: get back to work!
19:51.04goozbachsjansen: I'm working
19:51.14sjansensuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure ;-)
19:51.27lars-utwatch the donuut
19:51.34goozbachand you're really working right now???
19:51.35Jayce^"it's a jelly-filled"
19:51.41lars-utreally lol
19:51.48lars-utjelly, eh.
19:52.09sjansenlunch break
19:52.13lars-ut~cokezero sjansen
19:52.13ibotACTION puts an iv in sjansen and forces 120 ounces of Coke Zero into his veins
19:52.24mrpullbreak lunch
19:52.25goozbacheww
19:52.31goozbachpepsi one
19:52.37sjansen~dew goozbach
19:52.37goozbachmuch less crappy
19:52.48goozbachnow THAT's what I'm talking about
19:52.58goozbach~dew me ibot!
19:53.19lars-utI've been trying new less crappy drinks lately.
19:53.23emcnabbget back to work goozbach
19:53.46sjansenibot, dew $goozbach is <action> hands $goozbach a 24 pack of mountain dew then leaves the room and locks the door
19:53.46ibotokay, sjansen
19:53.53sjansen~dew lars-ut
19:53.53ibotACTION hands lars-ut a 24 pack of mountain dew then leaves the room and locks the door
19:54.22goozbachI'm a varible!
19:54.24sjansen~dew emcnabb
19:54.25ibotACTION hands emcnabb a 24 pack of mountain dew then leaves the room and locks the door
19:54.33lars-utevil ibot - you know I don't do the corn syrup anymore.
19:54.52vontrapp~attack lars-ut
19:54.52ibotACTION grabs a pen, screams like she's possessed, and begins chasing lars-ut
19:55.09sjansen~trap vontrapp
19:55.16lars-ut~tree ibot
19:55.16ibotACTION sizes up a tree and chops it down in just the right place to fall on ibot.
19:55.52lars-ut~suicide ibot
19:56.05sjansen~fish lars-ut
19:56.05ibotACTION slaps lars-ut around with a large trout
19:56.28lars-ut~cluebat sjansen
19:56.28ibotACTION pulls out a ClueBat (tm) and thwaps sjansen.
19:56.29sjansen~bzfrag lars-ut
19:56.29ibotACTION squishes lars-ut with a steamroller
19:57.00lars-ut~bodyslam sjansen
19:57.00ibotACTION enrolls sjansen for spring training with the Green Bay Packers as a tackle dummy
19:57.03sjansen~bzfrag lars-ut
19:57.04ibotACTION kills lars-ut with a shot from his BZTank
19:57.22lars-ut~dropkick sjansen
19:57.22ibotACTION sends sjansen flying like a yipping chihuahua
19:57.27sjansen~bzfrag lars-ut
19:57.27ibotACTION makes lars-ut feel the effects of a shockwave
19:57.56xbmodder-screengoozbach: where is your XEN lecture notes?
19:58.08goozbachwww.friocorte.com/presentation
19:58.12sjansen~travolta Maquis
19:58.12ibotACTION replaces Maquis with several craters in a multi-colored display of superior fire power
19:58.16gthornocklars-ut: I can probably seed for both the Windows and Mac torrents.  I'll have to check about whether I can mirror the torrent file downloads, though.
19:58.29xbmodder-screengoozbach: i think friocorte is broken
19:58.40lars-utgthornock: thanks
19:58.53vontrapp~emulate ibot
19:58.53ibotACTION crashes
19:58.57vontrapphehe
19:59.04goozbachxbmodder-screen: nope
19:59.05vontrappwho did that one?
19:59.07xbmodder-screenif you need torrents seeded what are they?
19:59.08goozbachit's working fine
19:59.25lars-utIt'll be 2-3 weeks before the CD/torrent is ready.
19:59.32xbmodder-screengoozbach: i can't click on interesting conversation, home, blog, etc.
19:59.37xbmodder-screenlars-ut: may I ask for what?
19:59.39gthornockxbmodder-screen: they will be torrents for the next SSS CD, but it's not ready yet.
20:00.03goozbachxbmodder-screen: upgrade your browser
20:00.13goozbachI'm using css2.0 rollovers
20:00.15ralphsnartfriocorte's workin form me
20:00.29ralphsnarts/form/for me
20:00.33*** part/#utah mindjuju_ (~mindjuju@216.20.238.225)
20:00.34xbmodder-screenIe6
20:00.36xbmodder-screen:-(
20:00.54xbmodder-screengthornock: for linux are you using a compressed FS?
20:01.13TimRikerlars-ut: ? bootable linux cd?
20:01.16goozbachI don't support IE
20:01.28Jayce^~goozbach++
20:01.50xbmodder-screen~goozbach++
20:01.55goozbachIE is NOT standards compliant
20:01.57xbmodder-screen~goozbach
20:01.57ibot[goozbach] a future que-ball. easier to catch than a retarted sasquatch
20:01.59tenegoozbach: why don't they gracefully degrade for browsers that don't support css?
20:02.09teneor is it just IE that it's broken for?
20:02.30xbmodder-screentene: we wait until MSCSS
20:02.36teneargh, now it's even more broken.
20:02.36lars-utTimRiker: wishlist for x86 bootloader:
20:02.36lars-ut-multiple boot options
20:02.36lars-ut-default to womp ( http://womp.sourceforge.net/ ) for media player option - 29MB
20:02.36lars-ut-memtest86 option
20:02.36lars-ut-(R)ecovery (I)s (P)ossible Linux(http://www.tux.org/pub/people/kent-robotti/looplinux/rip/ ) option -23MB
20:02.37goozbachtene: because the links work on a broser that isn't trying to do Css
20:02.43tene'kay
20:02.58goozbachIE sucks
20:03.02teneyeah
20:03.06teneI learned that the hard way
20:03.19tenetrying to design a site using positional css and supporting IE
20:03.20goozbachhmm chicken!
20:03.28goozbachand bawls
20:03.31goozbachbbl
20:03.34*** join/#utah linuxalien (~bastage@c-24-2-80-89.hsd1.ut.comcast.net)
20:03.38teneyet...
20:03.47tenethis php is giving me more trouble that css in IE did.
20:03.56TimRikerlars-ut: probably need a single linux fs that decides what to run based on kernel cmdline.
20:04.42lars-utyes
20:05.03lars-uta la Knoppix or FC4
20:05.14lars-ut~curse goozbach and his references to only the best types of corn syrup
20:05.14ibotMay you be reincarnated as a Windows XP administrator, goozbach and his references to only the best types of corn syrup !
20:05.15TimRikerbut you should be able to make a single large hd image with partition table in it and choose the partion on the bootloader. older systems might not support virtual hd images, just virtual floppy images. but new systems should work.
20:06.21lars-utjust like having multiple kernel images?
20:07.39vontrappyou could just use init with different runlevels, each runlevel doing whatever different thing
20:08.15lars-utonly they need to be located inside the same image so the bootloader can access them?
20:09.09tenenow php is mysteriously segfaulting
20:09.41tene~stab PHP
20:09.41ibotACTION runs at PHP with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut.
20:10.39lars-utTimRiker: wait a sec - so I can have, say, 3 partitions on the CD, and the bootloader can choose between them.
20:11.26*** part/#utah fungus (~fungus@2001:470:1f00:645:20a:95ff:fec5:636a)
20:11.39lars-utthe partitions are stored as 3 separate image files within the CDFS?
20:14.09lars-utTimRiker, vontrapp: I'll read up some more on CDs/bootloaders before I jabber away anymore on the subject.  Thanks for the google ammo.
20:14.59tensaiSTUPID STUPID STUPID HOTMAIL!
20:16.53tensaithe script at abuse@hotmail.com refuses to acknowledge spam that originates from hotmail's IP addresses but doesn't use an @hotmail.com account
20:17.41vontrappgaahhhhhhhh!!!!! i want to be able to paste links to firefox!!!!!
20:17.50teneand why can't you?
20:18.02vontrappstupid latest version doesn't work
20:18.23vontrapp1.0.6-0ubuntu0.1
20:18.25jsmithvontrapp: You can't set it in your preferences?
20:18.51vontrappi tried setting the option in about:config
20:20.16vontrappcan't find anything in the preferences
20:23.12vontrapphave to go back to 1.0.4-2
20:23.23vontrapp1.0.2 if i were to stick with ubuntu
20:23.39vontrapp~lart ubuntu
20:23.47xbmodder-screenhotmail not cool
20:25.16vontrappnow, how do i put a hold on a package?
20:25.26xbmodder-screen~lart vontrapp for larting ubuntu and not switching to gentoo
20:25.28vontrappi guess i could use aptitude, but anyone know the command line way?
20:26.34xbmodder-screenvontrapp: what package manager does ubuntu use?
20:26.37vontrappyay, got middle click back
20:26.39vontrappapt
20:26.51xbmodder-screenhow?
20:29.07vontrapphow what?
20:29.26vontrapphow i got it back?
20:29.30vontrappby downgrading firefox
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20:34.31Maquishow did i get dragged into that flame war?
20:34.43vontrappo.0
20:34.58Maquis~lart emcnabb
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20:35.05ralphsnart2oops got bumped vontrap- -do you mean when you middle clik on a tab?
20:35.30vontrappralphsnart2: no, middle click in the content area to load the url in clipboard
20:35.40ralphsnart2gotcha
20:35.51vontrappe.g. select text in irssi, then middle click in the browser window
20:36.18vontrappsloppy click on some emptyish portion of the page, if there's one loaded already, or open a new tab and click freely
20:36.46ralphsnart2yep - i was gonna point you to the config
20:37.02vontrappi tried about:config
20:37.04vontrappno effect
20:37.06ralphsnart2bingo
20:37.07ralphsnart2ah
20:37.28vontrappmousemiddle.contentLoadURL is the relevent option
20:37.37ralphsnart2using 1.06?
20:37.42vontrappyeah
20:37.45vontrappnot anymore :(
20:38.01ralphsnart2i'v downgraded as well after too many mysterious crashes
20:38.22vontrappstill can't find how to hold it though
20:40.08goozbachahh bawls...
20:40.21goozbachhow sweet thou art
20:40.30goozbachand the caffiene!
20:40.48ralphsnart2thy bawls are blue
20:41.18goozbachJayce^: If I wanted REAL guarana I'd drink that alpinewhatever
20:41.39Jayce^mm, antarctica
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20:42.24goozbachyeaht that stuff
20:42.48RyanEI liked Brahma guarana better, but you can't get that here.
20:43.10goozbach~bawls
20:43.11ibotbawls is probably a hyper-caffeinated drink from http://thinkgeek.com under the \"caffeine\" section
20:43.14Jayce^you did? ugh
20:43.31Jayce^brahma tasted... dunno, overly sugared, and heckuva lot of carbonation
20:43.36ralphsnart2i've just got a box of jo mints n penguin mints from thinkgeek -i gotta say i like the effects of the jo mints guarana better :)
20:43.37xbmodder-screenNever spoof email to a teenage girl when you get amazingly bored.
20:43.42Jayce^I liked it just because they had 1-liter plastic bottles :)
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20:44.41RyanEmaybe I liked overly sugared, overly carbonated.  My tastes have probably changed in 20 years anyway.
20:45.02Jayce^hehe
20:45.20Jayce^my favorite non-antarctica was Kas..   com maracuja
20:45.35Jayce^now that's a mix.. a 'depressant along with guarana'
20:45.42xbmodder-screenI feel so left out
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20:49.13xbmodder-screenhmmm
20:49.22jsmithJayce^: Sounds interesting... I had a friend in Denver a couple of weeks ago who bought a six-pack of beer with Guarana in it.
20:49.23Uncle_JesseAny of y'all ever play with digg.com?
20:49.29xbmodder-screenanybody messed around with DNS tunnel?
20:49.37xbmodder-screenUncle_Jesse: how do you play with it?
20:49.49xbmodder-screenUncle_Jesse: I have dug digged etc.
20:49.53goozbachI daily the homepage and diggall
20:49.55Uncle_Jessexbmodder-screen: you go to it, sign up, and add your friends
20:50.02Uncle_JesseI dig digg
20:50.12xbmodder-screenme too :)
20:50.16Uncle_Jessethen view their dug links
20:50.30Uncle_Jesseblogging meets social bookmarking meets rss meets news
20:50.46Uncle_JesseI'm looking for friends to add
20:51.15Uncle_Jesseyou can add my user if you register - uncle_jesse
20:51.46Jayce^maracuja is passion fruit, which naturally is a relaxent
20:53.52jsmithJayce^: That's mbaracuja, if you're speaking Guarani
20:54.45Jayce^no, not speaking guarani
20:55.56Jayce^so where'd you learn guarani?
20:56.18jsmithParaguay... although I've forgotten most of it.
20:56.24Uncle_Jessewhat is guarani?
20:56.34Uncle_JesseIs that what the guarana berries speak?
20:56.55jsmithUncle_Jesse: The spoken language of the indigenous people of Paraguay and parts of Brazil and Angentina.
20:56.56vontrappspeaking berries? what's in these drinks?!
20:57.23Uncle_JesseJayce^ and jsmith are hearing new languages
20:57.41Jayce^guarani indians
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20:58.19sjansengoozbach: GET BACK TO WORK!
20:58.30Maquis~beat sjansen
20:58.30ibotACTION beats sjansen with a large stick.
21:00.01sjansen~harass Maquis
21:01.29gthornock?$50 ibook?
21:01.29sjansen~wikipedia guarani
21:01.54Uncle_JesseOur local school district is having a surplus sale - 1000 ibooks for $50 each, one per customer
21:02.02Uncle_Jessethey're the white G3's
21:02.02jsmithUncle_Jesse: Buy me one!
21:02.10Uncle_Jessejsmith: one per customer, sorry
21:02.10gthornockOh, very nice.
21:02.20gthornockWhich school district is that?
21:02.27Uncle_JesseHenrico County Schools
21:02.46Uncle_Jessehttp://henrico.k12.va.us/ibooksale/index.html
21:02.50tensaigthornock: he should mention he lives in Virginia
21:03.01Uncle_Jesseoh, that too
21:03.15gthornocktensai: Henrico County didn't sound like anyplace in Utah :)
21:03.20Uncle_Jesseminor detail...
21:04.43Uncle_Jessegotta go - cya guys
21:05.24tensaithat's also why he cuts out about now. it's 5:00pm eastern time
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21:49.58jsmithHow would that be?
21:51.22vontrappone hour...
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22:14.54tenesjansen: yes, but do you have to work with PHP?
22:15.20vontrappyeah, huh? do ya?!
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22:17.08sjansen~taunt vontrapp and tene
22:17.27tene... :
22:17.30teneif(condition);
22:17.36teneelse statement;
22:17.41tene*stab*
22:20.03sjansen~ridicule tene
22:21.32teneMaquis: sjansen was making fun of me!
22:21.37teneMake him stop!
22:22.42sjansenWhat was the name of that company that sells a product to integrate Linux with Active Directory?
22:24.44emcnabbvintela?
22:25.44sjansenyup, that's them
22:25.51vontrapptene: what's with the if convolution?
22:25.55jsmithsjansen: Check out eDir from Novell... the pricing is much better
22:26.15sjansenwell, samba's the best, but...
22:27.28sjansenCan eDir act as an ADS replacement by itself?
22:30.53sjansen~curse tensai
22:30.53ibotMay the fleas of a thousand camels infest your most sensitive regions, tensai !
22:33.31tenevontrapp: that's something I found in this supid php app I'm working on
22:34.47sjansenha ha
22:35.22Jayce^mmm, 1 week 'till damian time :)
22:39.00vontrapptene: nice
22:39.21teneYeah, except for how it's not
22:43.25xbmoddertene, what are you coding?
22:45.38tenexbmodder: I'm trying to add features to SugarCRM
22:52.19vontrapp~decorate $tene is <action> shoots a large exploding shell filled with shattered christmas ornaments at $tene
22:52.20ibotokay, vontrapp
22:52.56vontrapp~decorate tene
22:52.56ibotACTION shoots a large exploding shell filled with shattered christmas ornaments at tene
22:53.15vontrappdon't worry, it will feel better than what you'll be doing if you continue to live
22:55.15teneargh
22:55.22tenetried compiling php from source
22:55.29teneno 'make uninstall'
22:56.31vontrappmake php less lame
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23:20.58teneargh, this pisses me off.
23:21.04tene~destroy php
23:21.04ibotno
23:21.20tene~literal destroy
23:21.31sjansenNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
23:21.35tene~literal destroy $who
23:21.35ibotno
23:21.52tenetravelling to php-land?
23:22.16sjansenTo Columbus, OH.
23:22.48sjansenBeen wanted to go there ever since I found out a long lost friend from college had moved there.
23:23.21sjansen~beat the fates
23:23.21ibotACTION beats the fates with a large stick.
23:23.45teneso... you're upset that you're travelling to a place you've been wanting to visit?
23:26.15sjansen~beat tene
23:26.15ibotACTION beats tene with a large stick.
23:40.52xbmodder~distyor xbmodder
23:40.57xbmodder~distroy xbmodder
23:41.04xbmodder~distroy ibot
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23:50.28Maquis~mock xbmodder for poor spelling
23:50.28ibotACTION pulls xbmodder for poor spelling's pants down and shows the world xbmodder for poor spelling's pink spotted underwear

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