| 00:12.51 | *** join/#utah wps (~wade@65.73.113.199) |
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| 01:36.06 | *** join/#utah harleypig (~Clint@65.73.113.162) |
| 01:36.13 | harleypig | Any gentoo folks here? |
| 01:38.04 | mheath | harleypig: I used to use gentoo, whats your problem? |
| 01:38.21 | harleypig | I'm having problems with hostname/dnsdomainname setup. |
| 01:38.44 | harleypig | I keep getting the "You should use /etc/conf.d/hostname" and "/etc/conf.d/domainname" messages. |
| 01:38.45 | *** join/#utah sjansen (~sjansen@001-777-677.area1.spcsdns.net) |
| 01:39.14 | mheath | did you set those? |
| 01:39.14 | harleypig | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:39.19 | *** topic/#utah by sjansen -> The source for OSS focused discussion in Utah. See sllug.org, uphpu.org, plug.org, uug.byu.edu, uvlug.org, fslc.usu.edu, nupm.org, utwaa.org, oalug.com. See planetutah.adelantellc.com for aggregate feeds. || TimRiker has boxes in South Jordan. Holler if you want any. packing paper, etc too. |
| 01:39.21 | harleypig | :] Yeah. |
| 01:39.29 | sjansen | harleypig: long time no see |
| 01:39.34 | harleypig | Hows it goin'? |
| 01:39.54 | sjansen | Go, Novell, go! |
| 01:40.10 | harleypig | hostname --fqdn errors out and apache won't start. |
| 01:40.16 | sjansen | harleypig: what distro? |
| 01:40.24 | harleypig | Otherwise I wouldn't really care. |
| 01:40.26 | harleypig | sjansen: Gentoo |
| 01:40.40 | sjansen | Oo, tough one. |
| 01:40.55 | harleypig | proftpd seems to be starting just fine and it's dependent on the hostname as well. |
| 01:40.59 | goozbach | soo much backlog... |
| 01:41.16 | goozbach | i cant handle it... |
| 01:41.21 | harleypig | heh |
| 01:41.30 | goozbach | not on the treo anyway |
| 01:41.49 | harleypig | Speaking of which ... anyone see Fantastic Four yet? |
| 01:42.50 | sjansen | /etc/conf.d/hostname <-- hostname="foo" |
| 01:43.34 | sjansen | harleypig: tried that yet? |
| 01:43.56 | harleypig | sjansen: Yeah ... and /etc/conf.d/domainname |
| 01:44.40 | harleypig | /etc/hostname and /etc/dnsdomainname don't exist (not supposed to) and hosts has "myip mydomain.com mydomain" |
| 01:45.15 | sjansen | what does hostname return? |
| 01:45.21 | goozbach | bah boarding |
| 01:45.50 | sjansen | huh, how do you like that |
| 01:46.03 | harleypig | sjansen: nothing |
| 01:46.12 | sjansen | zip?! |
| 01:46.22 | harleypig | and hostname --fqdn returns hostname: Unknown server error |
| 01:46.29 | harleypig | Which is why apache won't start. |
| 01:46.55 | harleypig | Well, which is why a mod I need won't start, which is causing apache to die at startup. |
| 01:47.17 | sjansen | could it be a reverse dns issue? |
| 01:48.31 | sjansen | nope |
| 01:48.41 | harleypig | ? hadn't even thought of that but I don't see how. |
| 01:49.02 | sjansen | And I quote: |
| 01:49.11 | sjansen | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:49.12 | harleypig | And he danced ... |
| 01:49.28 | sjansen | that's a pretty common thing for software to do |
| 01:49.29 | harleypig | hmmm ... |
| 01:50.25 | goozbach | dance monkey dance! |
| 01:51.36 | sjansen | could be a different piece of buggy software |
| 01:52.05 | sjansen | what happend if you put myip www.mydomain.com mydomain.com mydomain in hosts? |
| 01:52.46 | goozbach | details forthcoming... |
| 01:52.46 | harleypig | ? Why would that make a difference? |
| 01:52.55 | harleypig | checking |
| 01:53.02 | sjansen | how would the software handle binding hostname and hostname --fqdn to 127.0.0.1 ? |
| 01:53.24 | sjansen | harleypig: I've seen it make a difference in software that assumed a fqdn required at least two dots |
| 01:53.25 | harleypig | Nope. |
| 01:53.51 | goozbach | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:54.01 | goozbach | ? |
| 01:54.18 | harleypig | Same thing. |
| 01:54.30 | goozbach | (ochamm's razor) |
| 01:54.30 | harleypig | When putting 127.0.0.1 mydomain ... |
| 01:54.58 | harleypig | crappity crap |
| 01:55.05 | sjansen | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:55.43 | goozbach | elite access++ |
| 01:55.50 | harleypig | Which entry? |
| 01:56.23 | goozbach | it isn't first class but it's nice. |
| 01:56.40 | sjansen | harleypig: the whole file should be short |
| 01:56.54 | sjansen | what is the apache module? |
| 01:57.01 | harleypig | It's got a lot of comments. |
| 01:57.05 | harleypig | mod_unique_id |
| 01:58.04 | goozbach | (while looking down his soon-to-be-silver nose) |
| 01:58.11 | goozbach | :) |
| 01:58.35 | sjansen | careful, or I'll have to see what I can do to get you on the federal no fly list |
| 01:58.40 | sjansen | :-P |
| 01:59.00 | harleypig | heh |
| 01:59.02 | goozbach | hmmmm a bunch of college-age females... |
| 01:59.20 | harleypig | You should see where I work. |
| 01:59.28 | goozbach | hope one of them has the seat next to me... |
| 01:59.30 | sjansen | hopefully not a volleyball team |
| 01:59.57 | goozbach | nope, and not high school |
| 02:00.19 | harleypig | Right next door to a tanning salon called Hotteez ... got a store front made entirely out of glass ... soooooo distracting. |
| 02:00.36 | goozbach | blonde! blonde! blonde!... |
| 02:00.53 | goozbach | please let it be the blonde!. |
| 02:01.08 | harleypig | oh ... blonde, brunette, redhead, some bluehairs, orange ... |
| 02:01.41 | goozbach | ohhh the latina!!!... |
| 02:01.55 | sjansen | ~curse goozbach |
| 02:01.55 | ibot | May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your most sensitive regions, goozbach ! |
| 02:02.12 | goozbach | damn! neither one |
| 02:02.59 | harleypig | err ... I read that as nether one ... must have been the curse. |
| 02:03.12 | sjansen | ibot: curse $goozbach is also <action> guides two sweaty, obese men to the seats on either side of $goozbach |
| 02:03.12 | ibot | May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your most sensitive regions, $goozbach is also <action> guides two sweaty, obese men to the seats on either side of $goozbach ! |
| 02:03.29 | sjansen | ~literal curse $who |
| 02:03.29 | ibot | May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your most sensitive regions, $who ! |
| 02:03.34 | sjansen | ~literal curse $goozbach |
| 02:03.34 | ibot | May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your most sensitive regions, $goozbach ! |
| 02:03.36 | goozbach | crap! it's some big sweaty guy |
| 02:03.38 | sjansen | bah |
| 02:03.53 | sjansen | yay! |
| 02:04.13 | sjansen | harleypig: back to your problem, I'm seeing something about /etc/init.d/hostname |
| 02:04.28 | sjansen | and rc-update hostname add boot |
| 02:04.33 | harleypig | It's there. |
| 02:04.42 | harleypig | It's in both boot and default |
| 02:04.48 | sjansen | is it run? what does it look like? |
| 02:05.51 | goozbach | ~curse $who is also forces two big sweaty guys with some skin ailment to sit in the seat to either side of $who |
| 02:05.51 | ibot | May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your most sensitive regions, $who is also forces two big sweaty guys with some skin ailment to sit in the seat to either side of $who ! |
| 02:06.09 | sjansen | ~literal curse |
| 02:06.28 | goozbach | ~literal curse $who |
| 02:06.28 | ibot | May you be reincarnated as a Windows XP administrator, $who ! |
| 02:06.50 | goozbach | must be a seperate function |
| 02:06.52 | harleypig | ? What do you mean, what doe sit look like? rc-status shows both are active. |
| 02:07.11 | sjansen | what are the contents of the file? |
| 02:07.17 | sjansen | I don't have access to a gentoo box. |
| 02:07.52 | goozbach | ~addcurse forces $who to sit between two sweaty fat guys. |
| 02:08.04 | goozbach | ~curse foo |
| 02:08.05 | ibot | May you be reincarnated as a Windows XP administrator, foo ! |
| 02:08.18 | sjansen | ~curse goozbach |
| 02:08.18 | ibot | May you be reincarnated as a Windows XP administrator, goozbach ! |
| 02:08.43 | mheath | gah |
| 02:09.09 | goozbach | ~curse foo |
| 02:09.09 | ibot | May you be reincarnated as a Windows XP administrator, foo ! |
| 02:09.19 | harleypig | sjansen: You mean the init.d/hostname file? |
| 02:09.32 | sjansen | yeah |
| 02:09.35 | goozbach | bah boarding door closed |
| 02:09.54 | goozbach | ttyal |
| 02:11.36 | mheath | We sail at the break of day..day...day...day....Through our last night on shore, drink to the foam! Until we meet once more, here's wishing you a happy voyage home! |
| 02:12.04 | mheath | Bye, ##utah. I've got stuff to do before I head to sleep, and I'll be up before the crack of dawn. See you all in a few weeks. |
| 02:12.06 | mheath | er |
| 02:12.07 | mheath | #utah |
| 02:12.12 | mheath | I'm too used to typing ##slackware :P |
| 02:14.20 | harleypig | That's alright ... every pounds on utah anyway. |
| 02:14.57 | mheath | harleypig: haha, good point |
| 02:16.39 | mheath | :P |
| 02:17.07 | sjansen | does slack still use bsd init? |
| 02:17.11 | harleypig | Everything sucks ... it's the level of suckiness that's important |
| 02:17.19 | sjansen | does slack still have only a partial package management system? |
| 02:17.34 | mheath | sjansen: yep. Those are some of the *features* of Slackware :) |
| 02:17.42 | sjansen | does gentoo still come with your own personal crack dealer? |
| 02:17.59 | mheath | No, they abandoned that in version 1.4. |
| 02:18.06 | mheath | ONe of my favorite features |
| 02:18.10 | mheath | :D |
| 02:20.20 | *** join/#utah Slackware-Kid (~mike@205.208.248.135) |
| 02:20.43 | Slackware-Kid | does anyone remember me from a long time ago |
| 02:20.57 | harleypig | Not with that moniker ... did you have another? |
| 02:20.59 | sjansen | harleypig: so what does hostname return? |
| 02:21.04 | harleypig | sjansen: nothing |
| 02:21.12 | Slackware-Kid | it started out as SlackwareMan |
| 02:21.15 | sjansen | also nothing? |
| 02:21.22 | Slackware-Kid | i'm from late November and Early December |
| 02:21.57 | Slackware-Kid | i remember xbmodder |
| 02:21.59 | harleypig | sjansen: ? |
| 02:22.21 | sjansen | harleypig: just scratching my head |
| 02:22.23 | Slackware-Kid | i think i was originally named SlackwareKid |
| 02:22.25 | harleypig | Slackware-Kid: i wasn't on here much in that time frame so I probably wasn't on at the same tme. |
| 02:22.51 | Slackware-Kid | i got banned from using IRC because of IRC bots, but i'm using Gaim to disguise it |
| 02:22.58 | harleypig | sjansen: heh |
| 02:23.07 | sjansen | cat /etc/conf.d/hostname |
| 02:23.21 | harleypig | Slackware-Kid: ? How'd you get banned from using IRC. Or just from freenode? |
| 02:23.34 | Slackware-Kid | i got banned by my Brother, and my dad |
| 02:23.43 | sjansen | /etc/init.d/hostname start |
| 02:24.07 | sjansen | or however you crazy gentoo users run your init scripts manually |
| 02:24.07 | Slackware-Kid | i was just wishing that the plug.com had a phpbb forum |
| 02:24.14 | Slackware-Kid | it would make my life easier |
| 02:24.39 | sjansen | not ours |
| 02:24.44 | sjansen | that's what mailing lists are for |
| 02:24.48 | harleypig | sjansen: that's it ... and it's already started. If I restart it it gives me lotta warnings about it being a boot script. |
| 02:25.14 | sjansen | bah |
| 02:25.16 | Slackware-Kid | darn, well, i'll subscribe to the mailing list |
| 02:25.29 | Slackware-Kid | i'm wondering, when is the next PLUG meeting |
| 02:25.53 | harleypig | Slackware-Kid: August 10 |
| 02:26.00 | sjansen | always the 2nd wednesday of the month |
| 02:26.07 | sjansen | this months is special |
| 02:26.16 | sjansen | got a geek celebrity coming |
| 02:26.21 | Slackware-Kid | thank you harleypig |
| 02:26.22 | sjansen | and lots of swag |
| 02:26.48 | Slackware-Kid | it's sysadmin appreciation day today |
| 02:27.38 | harleypig | yeah ... remember "Down, not across" |
| 02:27.40 | harleypig | and "Illegetum non carborundum" (I think that's right) |
| 02:28.07 | harleypig | "Ex transverso, sed desorum" Is that right? |
| 02:28.33 | harleypig | There it is: Non ex transverso sed deorsum. |
| 02:28.59 | Slackware-Kid | has anyone heard of Hacking Linux Exposed |
| 02:29.48 | harleypig | yeah ... it's fairly decent. |
| 02:30.08 | Slackware-Kid | i've checked out of Provo city library, and i liked it quite a bit |
| 02:30.40 | Slackware-Kid | what city is the meeting in, i can't tell by the map |
| 02:30.54 | Slackware-Kid | nevermind, i see now |
| 02:31.00 | Slackware-Kid | i'll ask my dad to take me there |
| 02:32.08 | Slackware-Kid | i have to leave |
| 02:32.10 | *** part/#utah Slackware-Kid (~mike@205.208.248.135) |
| 02:32.22 | harleypig | holy crap! I haven't seen to butch dykes *that* bad since San Diego! |
| 02:32.30 | harleypig | err ... that' two, not to. |
| 02:32.53 | sjansen | still at work on a friday night?! |
| 02:35.49 | harleypig | sjansen: yeah ... |
| 02:37.33 | sjansen | maybe you've been rooted and hostname has been replaced by a script containing echo "" |
| 02:37.50 | harleypig | Checked. |
| 02:38.28 | harleypig | That'd be a *bored* hacker who just changed my hostname... :> |
| 02:39.27 | sjansen | maybe they were drunken ninja attack squirrels, the pets of fem-bots with a penchant for evil |
| 02:45.02 | harleypig | Oh good heavens ... where'd you come up with *that*? |
| 02:45.11 | harleypig | And rebooting fixed whatever it was. |
| 02:45.13 | harleypig | Wierd. |
| 02:47.36 | harleypig | Yay! now I can go back to setting up qmail. |
| 02:52.19 | sjansen | ~mock the gentoo user |
| 02:52.19 | ibot | ACTION pulls the gentoo user's pants down and shows the world the gentoo user's pink spotted underwear |
| 02:52.49 | sjansen | ack! I didn't want to see that! |
| 02:55.00 | *** join/#utah tensai_ (~tensai@kite.zmonkey.org) |
| 02:55.48 | sjansen | ~whack tensai |
| 02:55.48 | ibot | ACTION whacks tensai upside the head. |
| 02:56.04 | sjansen | Whack the zmonkey, win cash! |
| 02:56.55 | harleypig | Hey! I don't have pink spotted underwear? |
| 02:56.58 | harleypig | err ... ! |
| 02:57.09 | harleypig | Those keys are, like, right next to each other. |
| 02:57.52 | mheath | ~lart IRC servers that hang after/during checking your ident |
| 02:57.57 | sjansen | freudian slip |
| 02:59.01 | mheath | ~lart ibot |
| 02:59.04 | mheath | haha |
| 03:06.19 | harleypig | And I don't wear a slip either. |
| 03:06.39 | harleypig | You don't want me to stand between you and the sun ... trust me. |
| 03:07.19 | mheath | woah this server is having problems |
| 03:07.45 | mheath | Just got throttled for "too many connections in a short period of time." |
| 03:08.01 | mheath | The problem? I only tried to connect once, and I'm connecting locally (I'm sshed into the server) |
| 03:15.07 | sjansen | ~hail wikipedia |
| 03:15.07 | ibot | ACTION bows down to wikipedia and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" |
| 03:15.07 | harleypig | Once is too many |
| 03:19.11 | sjansen | ~hail google |
| 03:19.11 | ibot | ACTION bows down to google and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" |
| 03:27.01 | harleypig | ~hail |
| 03:27.02 | ibot | i guess hail is chimp |
| 03:27.06 | harleypig | heh |
| 03:27.28 | sjansen | ~hail hail rock'n'roll |
| 03:27.28 | ibot | ACTION bows down to hail rock'n'roll and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" |
| 03:27.41 | harleypig | ~hail hail the gangs all here! |
| 03:27.41 | ibot | ACTION bows down to hail the gangs all here! and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" |
| 03:28.11 | harleypig | Who remembers the hail mary pass? |
| 03:32.13 | brailsmt | harleypig: which hail mary pass? |
| 03:32.32 | harleypig | Did BYU have more than one? |
| 03:32.34 | brailsmt | McMahon to Clay Brown in the 1980 Holiday Bowl? I remember |
| 03:32.47 | brailsmt | i was six, and I remember... |
| 03:32.51 | harleypig | That's the one. |
| 03:32.58 | sjansen | geezers |
| 03:33.17 | harleypig | All this ~hail talk made me think of it. |
| 03:33.19 | brailsmt | there have been few hail mary's as spectacular as that one... |
| 03:33.22 | harleypig | sjansen: :D |
| 03:33.38 | harleypig | brailsmt: You were 6?! |
| 03:33.43 | harleypig | Dang ... |
| 03:33.44 | brailsmt | not even in the NFL... immaculate reception is nothgin compared that one... |
| 03:33.59 | brailsmt | harleypig: and you were how old? |
| 03:34.12 | sjansen | he was 23 |
| 03:34.14 | harleypig | 15 |
| 03:34.21 | harleypig | ~lart sjansen |
| 03:34.29 | harleypig | Nice one. |
| 03:34.30 | brailsmt | i was barely six, my bday is december 17th, so i was about week or two into my six year... :) |
| 03:34.31 | sjansen | harleypig: sorry, finger slipped |
| 03:34.32 | sjansen | 32 |
| 03:34.36 | harleypig | :D |
| 03:34.51 | mheath | I should really go to sleep soon |
| 03:35.09 | mheath | I'm going to be up at 0330 tomorrow |
| 03:35.12 | brailsmt | so that makes harleypig the youngest looking 57 year old i have ever seen... |
| 03:35.28 | brailsmt | :) |
| 03:35.35 | harleypig | Why, thanks. |
| 03:35.55 | mheath | haha |
| 03:36.04 | mheath | Wow, harleypig's almost as old as my dad |
| 03:36.15 | mheath | and my dad is really old to have a son as young as me :D |
| 03:36.22 | mheath | haha |
| 03:36.31 | harleypig | That's it ... I'm dyeing my hair. |
| 03:36.38 | mheath | harleypig: dont worry, hes actually quite a bit older than you |
| 03:36.42 | harleypig | I think I'll go for a nice sedate dayglo orange. |
| 03:36.49 | mheath | Argh, its his birthday tomorrow actually |
| 03:36.55 | harleypig | oops. |
| 03:36.57 | brailsmt | harleypig: go with one of te koolaid colors... |
| 03:37.03 | sjansen | harleypig: please send a picture to go with the green beard |
| 03:37.09 | mheath | And I feel bad, because I'm having him get out of bed at 4:00AM |
| 03:37.18 | brailsmt | i suggest the kind tat have no color... they look like water... |
| 03:37.30 | harleypig | tsk ... |
| 03:37.48 | sjansen | http://buscaluz.org/photos/Misc/green_beard.png |
| 03:37.50 | brailsmt | or one of the magictwist ones... then you can be surprised... |
| 03:38.03 | harleypig | brailsmt: That's an idea ... I wonder how long a packet of kool-aid would stay ... |
| 03:38.21 | brailsmt | LOL |
| 03:38.33 | harleypig | I'm gonna go for an interview in 10 years and someone's gonna bring that picture up. |
| 03:38.38 | brailsmt | was that on St. Paddys? |
| 03:38.59 | harleypig | Hey! I never noticed the eyebrows before ... I should have done them too. |
| 03:39.01 | harleypig | Yeah. |
| 03:39.10 | harleypig | ... and the eyelashes ... cool. |
| 03:39.21 | mheath | bah, I hate my eyelashes |
| 03:39.23 | mheath | too long |
| 03:39.24 | sjansen | I can only wish my beard looked that good. |
| 03:39.25 | harleypig | Next time I'm buying three cans. |
| 03:39.30 | brailsmt | how did you do it? |
| 03:39.44 | harleypig | I don't have the mustache any more though. |
| 03:39.54 | brailsmt | a brigham beard? |
| 03:40.01 | sjansen | yup |
| 03:40.06 | brailsmt | only in Utah... |
| 03:40.16 | harleypig | brailsmt: I went to a goth shop in SLC and bought 2 cans of spray on temp dye. |
| 03:40.30 | harleypig | Nah ... the mennonites and amish do it that way too. |
| 03:40.30 | sjansen | harley could do a decent impersonation if he had the clothes |
| 03:40.47 | brailsmt | harleypig: you should get some amish clothes to go with the brigham beard... then ride a horse around... |
| 03:40.50 | harleypig | sjansen: I have ... I was BY at Fort ... ummm ... |
| 03:41.06 | harleypig | the one way out in the middle of toole county somewhere. |
| 03:41.48 | harleypig | They have a memorial service for the poor army guys who got stuck there after the mormon war. |
| 03:42.28 | mheath | I'm about to /quit |
| 03:42.33 | mheath | I'll see you all in a few weeks |
| 03:42.37 | harleypig | Have fun. |
| 03:42.40 | mheath | When I get back from my training |
| 03:42.47 | mheath | harleypig: haha, I don't think thats an option, but thanks :D |
| 03:43.02 | sjansen | mheath: sure it is |
| 03:43.02 | brailsmt | army? |
| 03:43.12 | mheath | brailsmt: no, better than that :P |
| 03:43.14 | sjansen | start by tp-ing an officers bunk |
| 03:43.17 | mheath | Navy. |
| 03:43.31 | sjansen | then spit in the cooks face |
| 03:43.33 | brailsmt | my grampa was a Commodore in the Navy... |
| 03:43.38 | sjansen | it'll make the experience much more interesting |
| 03:43.54 | brailsmt | you are a good man, thank you for being willing to serve |
| 03:43.56 | harleypig | Yer gonna be a squid? |
| 03:44.01 | mheath | sjansen: haha, depends on your idea of "interesting" :D |
| 03:44.15 | mheath | harleypig: yep :) |
| 03:44.25 | harleypig | Boot for the squids is easier than the air force dweebs, but that's about it. |
| 03:44.28 | brailsmt | when the drill sergeant yells in your face about being a scumbag... |
| 03:44.33 | brailsmt | kick him in the balls |
| 03:44.38 | harleypig | (I'm kidding ... they're all |
| 03:44.48 | harleypig | brailsmt: You owe me a new keyboard |
| 03:45.01 | mheath | Before you all get the wrong impression, I'm not going to US Navy Basic Training. I'm doing some training that will insure I start off at a higher rank in 10 months, when I join. |
| 03:45.12 | mheath | What I'm leaving for tomorrow, however, is basically a compressed boot camp. |
| 03:45.17 | mheath | Very similar thing. |
| 03:45.26 | brailsmt | harleypig: why? |
| 03:45.29 | harleypig | 3 weeks instead of 8? |
| 03:45.35 | brailsmt | mheath: same difference in my opinion... |
| 03:45.41 | mheath | harleypig: little over 2 weeks actually |
| 03:45.43 | mheath | Not that long |
| 03:45.43 | harleypig | brailsmt: I spewed Mt Dew on my keyboard when you typed that. |
| 03:45.50 | brailsmt | ahhh.... |
| 03:46.16 | harleypig | I was thinking of my DI yelling in my face ... i was so scared I couldn't think of the right answer to "Do you think I'm pretty boy?" |
| 03:47.01 | mheath | harleypig: "Sir, No, I only think women are pretty, Sir" :D |
| 03:47.48 | brailsmt | the correct answer is "yes" said with a San Fransisco accent and a wink |
| 03:47.59 | sjansen | sir, isn't that a violation of don't ask don't tell, sir |
| 03:48.08 | harleypig | Not in the marines ... the correct answer is "Sir, only the Sergeants mother can answer that question, sir" |
| 03:48.32 | brailsmt | Don Knots was a Marine Drill Instructor |
| 03:48.48 | brailsmt | believe it or not... |
| 03:48.51 | brailsmt | no pun intended... |
| 03:48.52 | mheath | sjansen: YOU TELLING ME HOW TO TALK TO YOU!? |
| 03:48.56 | mheath | ;) |
| 03:49.13 | harleypig | brailsmt: Naw ... that's an urban legend. |
| 03:49.22 | Maquis | wow... that was an interesting point to walk in... |
| 03:49.53 | brailsmt | harleypig: well, not according to the recruiters in high school... |
| 03:49.55 | harleypig | http://www.snopes.com/radiotv/tv/knotts.asp |
| 03:50.05 | brailsmt | they can say anything though... |
| 03:50.24 | mheath | Bye, everyone :) |
| 03:50.38 | harleypig | heh ... My uncle cashiered my recruiter ... the guy lied to me so many different ways. |
| 03:51.00 | sjansen | cashiered? |
| 03:52.01 | Maquis | sjansen: howdy |
| 03:52.02 | harleypig | removed from active duty for disciplinary reasons. |
| 03:52.33 | harleypig | Don Knotts *was* a fish though ... |
| 03:52.47 | sjansen | that's a great movie |
| 03:52.50 | Maquis | who's don knotts? |
| 03:54.16 | sjansen | He built knots berry farm, wrote knott's landing, and invented the granny knott. |
| 03:55.14 | Maquis | ~lart sjansen |
| 03:55.25 | RyanE_ | and he was a fish *with glasses* |
| 03:56.01 | harleypig | Oh man ... *that* makes me feel more old than the Hail Mary pass fiasco. |
| 03:56.17 | harleypig | Maquis: How old are you? |
| 03:56.27 | sjansen | harleypig: Maquis doesn't watch movies. |
| 03:56.32 | RyanE_ | I clearly remember the Hail Mary, but I don't know how old I was... What year was it? 84? |
| 03:56.38 | sjansen | Or watch TV. |
| 03:56.39 | harleypig | RyanE_: 80 |
| 03:56.40 | Maquis | harleypig: 21 |
| 03:56.43 | sjansen | Or listen to music. |
| 03:56.47 | RyanE_ | whoa. 13. |
| 03:56.50 | harleypig | Oh ... that explains it I guess. |
| 03:56.58 | sjansen | She's basically oblivious to popular culture. |
| 03:57.05 | harleypig | heh |
| 03:57.31 | Maquis | sjansen: aside from the music part, you've got it about right... although i don't listen to a lot of music... |
| 03:58.17 | sjansen | She might know who Harry Potter is if you really pushed her. But I'm betting she's never heard of Eragon. |
| 03:58.45 | sjansen | And I'm pretty sure that Arthur Dent is right out. |
| 03:58.49 | sjansen | Maquis: Am I far off? |
| 03:59.01 | Maquis | sjansen: i do know who harry potter andc arthur dent are |
| 03:59.16 | Maquis | sjansen: i read the 6th harry potter book in 2 days |
| 03:59.23 | Maquis | despite pulling 10-hour days at work |
| 04:00.52 | Maquis | hmmmm... a "job opening for php developer" email... followed by a large quantity of replies... is it safe to read? or should i put on an asbestos suit first? |
| 04:00.55 | sjansen | Susan Calvin? |
| 04:01.02 | sjansen | Sparhawk? |
| 04:01.14 | Maquis | sjansen: ?? |
| 04:01.20 | sjansen | Fizban? |
| 04:02.05 | sjansen | William Gibson? |
| 04:02.13 | Maquis | that one sounds familiar |
| 04:02.24 | sjansen | Larry Niven? |
| 04:02.40 | sjansen | Maquis: I'm testing the limits of your geek book knowledge. |
| 04:02.42 | brailsmt | sjansen: you lost me on Arthur Dent... |
| 04:02.57 | Maquis | sjansen: arthur dent is about as far as i go... |
| 04:03.11 | brailsmt | who is arthur dent? |
| 04:03.13 | Maquis | unless you jump to star trek... |
| 04:03.19 | sjansen | Robert Jordon? |
| 04:04.00 | harleypig | sjansen: I finally figured out who you meant by Eragon... Aragorn? From the Lord of the Rings? |
| 04:04.01 | sjansen | *sigh* |
| 04:04.10 | sjansen | Nope. |
| 04:04.26 | harleypig | ? I don't recognize that name ... |
| 04:04.32 | Maquis | for some reason, when i see eragon, i'm thinking spider |
| 04:04.37 | Maquis | but i don't know why |
| 04:04.49 | Maquis | wait... doesn't that have something to do with dune? |
| 04:05.05 | sjansen | Eragon was catapulted into popularity while kids looked for something to read until the next harry potter came out. |
| 04:05.23 | sjansen | No, but thanks for pointing out an important one: Frank Herbert. |
| 04:05.30 | Maquis | wasn't there a house of aragon or something in dune? |
| 04:05.36 | brailsmt | Eragon is a book |
| 04:05.44 | harleypig | Hmmm ... seems like a cheap knock off based on the site. |
| 04:05.47 | sjansen | Although I would have picked something trickier like Lady Jessica, probably. |
| 04:05.57 | harleypig | Maquis: Thomas Covenant? |
| 04:06.09 | brailsmt | i dont read much anymore |
| 04:06.15 | Maquis | harleypig: no idea |
| 04:06.21 | harleypig | Lazarus Long? |
| 04:06.28 | harleypig | Dejah Thoris (either one) |
| 04:06.29 | Maquis | nope |
| 04:06.36 | Maquis | ?? |
| 04:06.58 | sjansen | Chaim Potok, Kurt Vonnegut (not geek authors, but a couple of my favorites) |
| 04:07.01 | harleypig | One was written about around the turn of the 19th century, the other near the middle. |
| 04:07.26 | Maquis | i like lois lowry... |
| 04:08.02 | harleypig | I was standing in line to see Fantastic Four and the couple behind me were talking about War of the Worlds. The guy said it was Independence Day frm the civilians pov ... |
| 04:08.10 | Maquis | it's not geek lit, but it ought to be... the issues discussed in her books are really interesting and deal a lot with things that i think most geeks would be interested in... |
| 04:08.33 | harleypig | Somebody behind them piped and said, "Yeah, but it was written, like, 50 years before Independence Day" |
| 04:08.34 | Maquis | harleypig: that's an interesting comment... |
| 04:08.47 | harleypig | I had a real hard time biting my tongue. |
| 04:09.14 | sjansen | heh |
| 04:09.22 | harleypig | Maquis: I didn't think so, but then I'm a perfectionist. |
| 04:09.24 | harleypig | :/ |
| 04:09.27 | Maquis | i would've just been cracking up |
| 04:09.37 | RyanE | So what was your fantastic4 opinion, harleypig? |
| 04:09.48 | Maquis | listening in on other people's opinions is always an entertaining hobby |
| 04:09.58 | Maquis | particularly when they think you have no idea what they're saying |
| 04:10.01 | harleypig | Keeping in mind that it was based on a comic book, i liked it. |
| 04:10.01 | sjansen | RyanE: previews sure don't look good |
| 04:10.09 | RyanE | My opinion is that it was a throwaway movie, but entertaining nonetheless |
| 04:10.21 | harleypig | The masses don't understand the comic book mentality. |
| 04:10.46 | sjansen | most directors don't either |
| 04:11.04 | RyanE | I thought it paled in comparison with either Spiderman movie. |
| 04:11.14 | harleypig | It was like The Hulk, The Punisher, etc. ... you didn't have to worry about logic, internal consistency, etc. |
| 04:11.38 | sjansen | okay, that's pretty much what I expected |
| 04:11.40 | harleypig | Spider-man was well done, but it wasn't a comic book movie. |
| 04:12.17 | RyanE | well, time for the race. |
| 04:12.28 | harleypig | They tied the scenes together too coherently. |
| 04:12.31 | brailsmt | i reall liked batman begins |
| 04:12.58 | harleypig | Yes! A very good mix of comic book and story telling. |
| 04:13.10 | RyanE | I've heard a few good reviews (peers) of that one. |
| 04:13.22 | brailsmt | i liked at least as much as i like the '89 Batman |
| 04:13.28 | harleypig | Plus, they limited the visual effects as much as possible (like the batcave is really as big as it appears) |
| 04:14.18 | brailsmt | Bale did a good job as batman... |
| 04:14.43 | brailsmt | i was surprised at how much i liked it... |
| 04:14.55 | brailsmt | though it was a bit predictable... |
| 04:15.00 | brailsmt | most movies are... |
| 04:15.03 | brailsmt | though |
| 04:15.11 | sjansen | not quite as much as the original, but very good |
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| 04:19.08 | harleypi1 | That was wierd. |
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| 04:22.10 | harleypi1 | Oh fine ... everyone leave when I come in. |
| 04:22.31 | harleypig | Even me. |
| 04:22.32 | sjansen | netsplit! |
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| 04:23.38 | sjansen | ~whack the zmonkey |
| 04:23.38 | ibot | ACTION whacks the zmonkey upside the head. |
| 04:23.45 | Maquis | ~whack sjansen |
| 04:23.45 | ibot | ACTION whacks sjansen upside the head. |
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| 04:31.06 | Maquis | so, amazon gave all the girls who are interning there the book "Unlocking the Clubhouse: Women in Computing"... |
| 04:31.18 | Maquis | I was a bit wary at first, but it's actually a *really* interesting book |
| 04:31.47 | harleypig | err ... why only the women? |
| 04:32.02 | Maquis | harleypig: it's a bit cheaper that way |
| 04:32.26 | sjansen | harleypig: chauvanist |
| 04:32.32 | harleypig | *snort* So. Played the other way women's groups would be screaming their heads off. |
| 04:32.44 | Maquis | ???? |
| 04:32.55 | harleypig | Sorry. I'm a bit sensitive about reverse chauvinism. |
| 04:33.42 | harleypig | If Amazon did that to just the men, it would find itself in court by the end of the week. |
| 04:34.47 | Maquis | haha |
| 04:35.00 | Maquis | actually... if they did this particular book just to the men, i wouldn't see a problem with it |
| 04:36.31 | Maquis | i've found it quite interesting and enlightening... and it's one of the few books on this subject that i've actually agreed with (i'm not done, so there might be more stuff i disagree with... but so far, i agree for the most part) |
| 04:37.01 | Maquis | although, i don't fit the stereotypical CS girl... |
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| 04:37.42 | Maquis | i think that in other fields, where the majority are women, i think they need to have books like this for the men.. |
| 04:38.08 | Maquis | my guess is that it's probably harder for a guy to enter a predominaantly female field than it is for a woman to enter a predominantly male field |
| 04:38.43 | Maquis | (although there are some things that come up that make it rather awkward to be the only girl...) |
| 04:40.27 | sjansen | like at the end of the day when your co-workers all decide to go down to the bar and show off their C++ skillz to impress the chicks? |
| 04:41.44 | Maquis | sjansen: that... or just the way that some guys act to me or whatever... |
| 04:43.24 | Maquis | or having the sudden realization that a lot of guys don't see anything wrong wit pr0n and such... it's never come up at work... but just having the thought that it's likely that some of the guys look at that stuff makes things kinda awkward... |
| 04:43.52 | Maquis | (it's also rather awkward to realize that you find one of your coworkers somewhat attractive...) |
| 04:45.03 | sjansen | when they say something stupid, or make you feel uncomfortable, just remind them that you're part of the Secret Girl Conspiracy and that inside of a week their name will be mud throughout the entire continental US and most of Canada |
| 04:45.16 | Maquis | haha |
| 04:45.48 | Maquis | i have to say that guys at work are probably more careful about the way they act toward girls than guys at school... |
| 04:46.02 | Maquis | i've had more awkward experiences with random guys i didn't know at school... |
| 04:46.04 | harleypig | If they're smart, anyway. |
| 04:46.27 | RyanE | guys at work have likely had the sexual harassment orientation... |
| 04:46.39 | RyanE | they should probably have one of those at school. |
| 04:46.51 | harleypig | Doesn't BYU do that? I seem to remember hearing something along those lines. |
| 04:47.09 | RyanE | don't remember that in '89. |
| 04:47.17 | sjansen | RyanE: There's a difference between sexual harrasment and being stupid. |
| 04:47.32 | Maquis | sjansen: yeah... |
| 04:47.34 | RyanE | agreed. |
| 04:47.36 | sjansen | Guys at BYU tend more toward the later. |
| 04:47.45 | Maquis | i'm not sure which some of my experience fall under better |
| 04:47.59 | RyanE | you've got some of each, that's for sure. |
| 04:48.04 | Maquis | yeah... |
| 04:49.07 | Maquis | actually, some of the funniest experiences i've had have been related to job applications... |
| 04:49.16 | Maquis | one was a job interview and one was at a career fair... |
| 04:49.25 | RyanE | do tell. |
| 04:50.36 | Maquis | hmmm... |
| 04:50.44 | Maquis | well, the career fair was a rather common thing, apparently... |
| 04:51.00 | Maquis | anyway, i went to the career fair with a guy from one of my CS classes... |
| 04:51.12 | Maquis | i wanted to talk to a company, but he wasn't interested, so he just hung out waiting for me... |
| 04:51.31 | Maquis | but whenever i asked a question of the people manning the booth, they'd look at me while i asked the question, then turned to my friend, and answered |
| 04:51.56 | Maquis | i was slightly puzzled, so i decided to see if it was repeatable |
| 04:52.28 | Maquis | after going through that process 5 or 6 times, i figured that i really wasn't that interested in the company |
| 04:52.35 | RyanE | now *that's* the way to attract qualified female applicants... dopes. :) |
| 04:52.39 | Maquis | :) |
| 04:52.57 | Maquis | the other one was a lot less noticeable |
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| 04:53.14 | harleypig | Yeah, I've noticed that happening whenever my wife asks mechanics questions. |
| 04:53.16 | Maquis | but it was during a job interview, and the interviewer made the following comment: |
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| 04:53.54 | sjansen | Yay for me! |
| 04:54.10 | RyanE | Yay for sjansen! |
| 04:54.36 | Maquis | you will probably be receiving an offer from us. You're a minority applicant, and <company-name> likes to fill their quotas from interns whenever possible. |
| 04:55.26 | Maquis | i think i did a double-take at that comment because the interviewer honestly seemed to think that this comment would make me more interested in the company |
| 04:55.41 | RyanE | I'm guessing their legal team would be shuddering at that comment. |
| 04:55.51 | sjansen | We (Guru Labs) having real trouble signing a contract with <very big company> because the owners of the company are white, male, and heterosexual. |
| 04:56.24 | Maquis | the interviewer went on to explain the final things i needed to do before they could make a decision... i had already decided i wouldn't be finishing the application process... |
| 04:56.27 | Maquis | sjansen: ??? |
| 04:57.28 | sjansen | <Very big company> loves our training material, but wants us to sell it to them through an existing partner because we aren't a minority owned company. |
| 04:57.35 | RyanE | they were probably thinking... Woman / Minority / AND Intern! Woo Hoo! Triple-Threat! |
| 04:57.53 | Maquis | RyanE: woman == minority |
| 04:57.58 | RyanE | NOOOO. |
| 04:58.01 | RyanE | serious? |
| 04:58.03 | Maquis | that's what they meant by minority (otherwise i wouldn't qualify) |
| 04:58.06 | RyanE | HAHAHAHA |
| 04:58.08 | Maquis | yeah... |
| 04:58.09 | RyanE | dopes |
| 04:58.24 | Maquis | although... at amazon, whites might actually be minorities... |
| 04:58.30 | RyanE | but just imagine if you HAD been a minority! They would've hired you on the spot and dragged you to the car. |
| 04:58.37 | Maquis | RyanE: yeah... |
| 04:58.51 | Maquis | the thing is... things like that just really bug me... |
| 05:00.19 | Maquis | i've always been an opponent of affirmative action because i disagree with some assumptions that are made by it... |
| 05:01.30 | Maquis | it assumes, from the outset, that a "minority" can't get the position without a preference being placed on them... |
| 05:01.35 | levi | Maquis: A female friend of mine has horror stories about a job where she was attracted to a coworker, a bunch of coworkers looked at porn all the time, and other similar unfortunate things that made an otherwise really cool job miserable until she switched areas. |
| 05:01.45 | Maquis | levi: yeah... |
| 05:02.04 | RyanE | y'know, it's refreshing that a MINORITY like you is non-Affirmative Action. :) |
| 05:02.21 | levi | And they looked at porn at work while she was around, too. |
| 05:02.35 | Maquis | levi: thankfully i haven't had to deal with that... |
| 05:02.43 | Maquis | i've heard plenty of horror stories |
| 05:03.03 | sjansen | porn == hostile work environment == company lawyers should have been writhing in pain |
| 05:03.14 | Maquis | i heard about a girl who was promoted from one team to a different team at a particular company... |
| 05:03.27 | levi | Apparently the guys doing it were the star coders or something, and they could get away with murder. |
| 05:03.30 | Maquis | and at the first team meeting, the boss looked over at her and said "go get us our coffee" |
| 05:03.42 | levi | Gah. |
| 05:03.46 | Maquis | and she looked at the boss with a very confused look, and he just said "what do you think you're on this team for?" |
| 05:04.19 | RyanE | I had to discipline a co-worker for looking at inappropriate (porno) material. Didn't care so much for management... |
| 05:04.54 | Maquis | RyanE: how do you "discipline' a coworker for something like that? can you report them? or what happens? |
| 05:05.36 | RyanE | This was years ago, and the decision was made to tell him that he would get this one warning, and if it happened again, he would be shown the door. |
| 05:05.38 | Maquis | levi: i actually like the little scooters |
| 05:05.41 | sjansen | acks? |
| 05:05.51 | sjansen | I'd nack. |
| 05:05.57 | Maquis | RyanE: that's probably the best way to do it... |
| 05:06.01 | RyanE | it had been in his office, not 'hostile work environment'-esque. |
| 05:06.31 | levi | Sure, the scooters are fine, and the name sounds the same as the word referring to a transition, but they are not spelled the same! |
| 05:06.37 | RyanE | fortunately, Utah is an at-will work state, so we can can someone for nearly anything. |
| 05:07.00 | Maquis | RyanE: although, you shouldn't have any trouble with it if that's involved... |
| 05:07.06 | Maquis | particularly if there are women on the team |
| 05:07.18 | RyanE | there weren't too many women there at that time, and none on his team. |
| 05:07.25 | Maquis | levi: yes... i was just teasing you |
| 05:07.56 | levi | There aren't any women in the hardware engineering group at my office, but there are some in several other technical departments now. |
| 05:08.10 | brailsmt | yeah, but if you can someone even in an at-will state you can expect a lawsuit if they think it was unjust... |
| 05:08.35 | Maquis | levi: hardware engineering? |
| 05:08.37 | levi | You just have to be careful not to tell them why you canned them. |
| 05:09.09 | RyanE | and you still have to have some documentation of a reprimand, just in case. |
| 05:09.37 | levi | Maquis: Yeah, I'm the lone software-only person in the hardware engineering department. Everyone else is an EE or ME. |
| 05:11.21 | Maquis | ok... here's a quesiton for people |
| 05:11.35 | sjansen | Yay for me! |
| 05:11.41 | RyanE | why Yay? |
| 05:11.45 | levi | Gah, I really need to get my hair cut so it stays out of my eyes. |
| 05:11.52 | Maquis | i was just going through the pending items for uug |
| 05:12.01 | Maquis | and there's someone here who is adding information to their account |
| 05:12.15 | Maquis | and they have "Visual Basic" listed under the user_skills section |
| 05:12.19 | brailsmt | if i hadn't just bought a house, i would seriously consider a job offer in Utah if one came along... |
| 05:12.23 | sjansen | I created a font and imported it into TeX (manually tweaking the width of a few characters in the .tmf along the way). |
| 05:12.28 | Maquis | do i approve or fail the changes?? |
| 05:12.54 | brailsmt | maybe this person is a reformed windows user |
| 05:12.56 | RyanE | you pray for their soul. |
| 05:13.01 | levi | Hey, /you/ have Visual Basic as a skill, wehther you list it or not. :) |
| 05:13.06 | Maquis | RyanE: yeah... i was planning to do that |
| 05:13.11 | Maquis | levi: unfortunately... |
| 05:13.29 | Maquis | but the only skills listed were java, php and visual basic |
| 05:13.30 | brailsmt | even i have had to write some VBS code for work... |
| 05:13.52 | brailsmt | i felt dirty during the commute home... |
| 05:14.13 | Maquis | i just feel kinda bad approving it because now this poor person has that listed on their profile... and... that's gotta be embarrassing |
| 05:14.17 | Maquis | brailsmt: i know how you feel |
| 05:14.30 | levi | Perhaps they don't know enough to be embarrassed yet. |
| 05:14.31 | Maquis | i get annoyed enough at having to do java... |
| 05:14.40 | Maquis | levi: that's the impression i get |
| 05:14.49 | Maquis | i wouldn't list VB as a skill on this... |
| 05:14.56 | sjansen | Fonts in TeX are a PITA (Pain In The Anti-anterior) |
| 05:14.58 | RyanE | you could *ask* them if they really want to list VB. |
| 05:15.21 | Maquis | levi: is it moderately level? |
| 05:15.49 | levi | Maquis: It probably would have been if I'd been able to lay it out faster. It started thickening a lot sooner than I was expecting. |
| 05:16.20 | levi | I think it's moderately level, but it has some ridges from trowel lines. |
| 05:16.33 | Maquis | ah... |
| 05:16.34 | RyanE | I think you can sand those down. |
| 05:16.46 | levi | I hope so. I don't want to do it again. |
| 05:16.59 | RyanE | at least I remember that I did when I was doing tile on an uneven floor. |
| 05:17.25 | levi | I think the end of the room I started with is fine, but it's hard to tell since I can't walk over to it to check yet. |
| 05:17.39 | levi | I had a hard time getting the last of it out of the bucket. |
| 05:20.40 | sjansen | I'm so smart! S M R T! |
| 05:20.47 | sjansen | I'm so smart! S M R T! |
| 05:21.32 | sjansen | Maquis: It's a Simpsons reference. You wouldn't understand. |
| 05:21.51 | Maquis | ~lart sjansen |
| 05:22.03 | sjansen | ~mock Maquis |
| 05:22.03 | ibot | ACTION pulls Maquis's pants down and shows the world Maquis's pink spotted underwear |
| 05:22.13 | Maquis | ~flog sjansen |
| 05:22.13 | ibot | ACTION hog-ties sjansen and starts the heavy punishment with a cat-o-nine-tails. |
| 05:24.43 | sjansen | Now if only I knew why \tt is using the wrong \fontdimen... |
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| 11:20.44 | tensai_ | stupid water moccasins. how am I ever supposed to find the amulet? |
| 11:42.14 | bonez39 | if I want to send something encrypted to a friend...and mutt is asking for that friend's keyID...how do I find his keyID, to encrypt the message? |
| 11:47.28 | tensai_ | I think mutt would find it if you already had the key in your key ring, so you'll have to search by his email address on a keyserver. gpg --search-keys foo@example.com |
| 11:48.09 | bonez39 | I don't have this recipient's key in my keyring.... |
| 11:48.19 | bonez39 | ah, that gpg command, that's what I needed.. |
| 11:48.27 | bonez39 | thanks |
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| 14:49.53 | graphyx | I always thought " where the men are men, the women are men and all the little girls are fbi agents..." flowed a little better.. |
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| 16:55.35 | bonez39 | graphyx: so true... |
| 16:59.31 | Maquis | i've just always kinda wondered about where that statement puts me :) |
| 17:08.46 | tensai_ | Maquis: I think that's pretty clear, Mr. FBI Agent |
| 17:14.38 | graphyx | funny... |
| 17:15.05 | graphyx | I think that would have to be the first time I have ever heard someone called a little girl in that manner.. |
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| 19:35.08 | Maquis | tensai_: darn! you caught me! |
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| 19:56.18 | goozbach | CRAPTASTIC!!! |
| 19:56.29 | harleypig | Why thank you! |
| 19:56.41 | goozbach | I'm not gonna be here for the damian conway presentation |
| 19:56.52 | goozbach | at least I don't think I will |
| 19:57.15 | harleypig | *gasp* |
| 19:57.35 | harleypig | That's all right. Makes it a better chance for the rest of us to get some schwag. |
| 20:00.58 | JoshH | im gonna be there, my first plug meeting ever. first non-sllug meeting actually. |
| 20:01.07 | JoshH | hopefully i can score one of the learning perl 4th editions |
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