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| 00:10.12 | goozbach | still no dice |
| 00:10.32 | vontrapp | hmm |
| 00:11.09 | goozbach | is your IP 209.90.95.212? |
| 00:11.21 | goozbach | ~dig gnat.fugal.net |
| 00:12.59 | vontrapp | yes |
| 00:13.11 | goozbach | hmm |
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| 00:23.43 | xbmodder | hey |
| 00:23.48 | xbmodder | I was wondering for some advice: |
| 00:23.55 | xbmodder | http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6780227059 < on this printer |
| 00:24.04 | xbmodder | should I buy it? |
| 00:26.36 | hans | so I missed the bzflag game eh? |
| 00:27.22 | goozbach | it didnt happen |
| 00:27.35 | goozbach | not for me anyway |
| 00:35.23 | hans | why no? |
| 00:37.40 | vontrapp | he couldn't connect |
| 00:37.46 | vontrapp | can you connect to gnat.fugal.net? |
| 00:46.47 | hans | yup |
| 00:46.49 | hans | but nobody was there |
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| 00:48.19 | vontrapp | how do you let the mouse go from bzflag in window mode? |
| 00:48.54 | goozbach | nmap shows all ports closed |
| 00:48.57 | goozbach | for me anyhow |
| 00:49.10 | vontrapp | i have no problem |
| 00:49.11 | hans | vontrapp: alt tab :) |
| 00:49.14 | hans | depending on your wm |
| 00:49.42 | vontrapp | nope, bzflag captures ALL events |
| 00:49.47 | vontrapp | can't do a thing |
| 00:50.11 | hans | didn't used to, or maybe it was meta-tab for me |
| 00:50.27 | hans | or maybe ctrl-alt-f2 and back |
| 00:51.18 | hans | vontrapp: I can't connect now. |
| 00:52.31 | goozbach | it just worked for me |
| 00:52.50 | goozbach | then the server forced disconnect |
| 00:53.27 | vontrapp | try again |
| 00:53.27 | hans | "error connecting to server |
| 00:53.44 | goozbach | forced disconnect |
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| 00:55.02 | vontrapp | is it working for you now... i guess that answers it |
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| 01:04.04 | hans | vontrapp: what answers it? did he get in? i still can't |
| 01:04.39 | vontrapp | yes |
| 01:05.03 | hans | gnat? |
| 01:05.11 | hans | 209.90.95.212 |
| 01:05.19 | vontrapp | yep |
| 01:05.49 | hans | error connecting to server. what port? |
| 01:06.11 | vontrapp | default |
| 01:41.03 | vontrapp | hans: ping |
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| 01:57.05 | GvzEvxre | F2 should minimize bzflag |
| 01:57.34 | vontrapp | i actually found in the options an option to turn off holding the mouse |
| 01:57.40 | GvzEvxre | ~nslookup gnat.fugal.net |
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| 02:48.00 | hans | vontrapp: pong |
| 02:53.25 | vontrapp | poing |
| 02:55.08 | vontrapp | i think i was just going to ask you if you could connect |
| 02:55.14 | vontrapp | that was forever ago |
| 02:57.13 | hans | sorry, star trek and home teaching |
| 03:07.18 | vontrapp | are you pounding falcon or something? |
| 03:12.16 | hans | apt-get upgrade |
| 03:12.27 | vontrapp | i see |
| 03:12.56 | vontrapp | i'm tunnelling through falcon to help nich at home |
| 03:13.11 | hans | sounds like fun |
| 03:13.25 | hans | I port forwarded ssh through the router to .2 |
| 03:13.42 | hans | which I think isengard is configured as .2 |
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| 03:53.49 | tensai | hans: so now I'm presenting on openvpn at the next users group meeting here. thanks a lot. :) |
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| 04:27.36 | Hhhhh | hello, anybody else can't sleep tonight? |
| 04:32.28 | bigdog_ut | yeah |
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| 04:43.37 | Hhhhh | hmm, anybody attended the BYU UUG meeting tonight? |
| 04:56.25 | levi | Nope. |
| 04:56.44 | levi | I might have if I'd known about it. |
| 04:57.22 | Hhhhh | it was about X |
| 04:57.31 | Hhhhh | I wish I had been able to attend |
| 04:57.36 | Hhhhh | I want to learn about X |
| 04:58.16 | levi | X mostly sucks. |
| 04:59.42 | Hhhhh | X is ok, it hasn't caused me much problems |
| 05:01.19 | levi | Well, it works, but it sucks. |
| 05:01.48 | Hhhhh | hmm, what other options are out there? |
| 05:02.21 | levi | Quartz is cool, though it's still not quite optimal. |
| 05:03.18 | levi | It's lacking true resolution independance and network transparency, but it's partway there on both counts and may get them in the future. |
| 05:04.07 | levi | In the OSS space, there are no viable alternatives right now. |
| 05:04.20 | levi | But that doesn't mean that X doesn't suck. |
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| 05:04.28 | levi | Hi, Maquis. :) |
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| 05:09.10 | Maquis | levi: hi! |
| 05:09.25 | levi | Maquis: How're things? |
| 05:10.32 | Maquis | ok... |
| 05:10.35 | levi | Hhhhh: Fresco would be cool if it ever got finished. |
| 05:10.43 | Maquis | i ran across a java class this week that was a useless liar |
| 05:11.19 | levi | Hhhhh: NeWS was good, but died a long time ago. |
| 05:11.31 | tensai | class as in object or class as in instruction? |
| 05:11.32 | levi | Maquis: The class was a liar? |
| 05:11.43 | Maquis | tensai: class as in object |
| 05:11.57 | Maquis | levi: well... the comments explaining the class were lying |
| 05:12.11 | Maquis | the class extended ArrayList |
| 05:12.22 | Maquis | it had nothing but a constructor |
| 05:12.29 | Maquis | the constructor only had one line: super(); |
| 05:12.30 | levi | Hrm. |
| 05:12.41 | Maquis | the comments claimed that the object returned a csv of strings |
| 05:12.52 | Maquis | i decided that it was a useless liar |
| 05:13.27 | Maquis | ~lart emcnabb |
| 05:14.26 | Hhhhh | Maquis: huh? |
| 05:14.31 | Maquis | Hhhhh: ??? |
| 05:14.43 | Maquis | i got lucky in the duty-free room at work today... |
| 05:14.48 | Hhhhh | Maquis: ArrayList having only a super();? that'd be surprising |
| 05:14.51 | Maquis | "Unix Shells by Example" |
| 05:15.03 | Maquis | Hhhhh: it's a class that extends ArrayList |
| 05:15.19 | Hhhhh | oh |
| 05:15.23 | Hhhhh | lol |
| 05:16.16 | levi | Maquis: Sounds like it was an unfinished class. |
| 05:16.20 | Maquis | in essence, it was an ArrayList... just with a different name |
| 05:16.27 | Maquis | levi: i'd think that, except the file was really old... |
| 05:16.37 | Maquis | and written by someone who hasn't worked on our team for about a year |
| 05:16.47 | levi | Well, perhaps that's why it remains unfinished. :) |
| 05:16.49 | Maquis | and it's called by tons of things |
| 05:16.56 | Maquis | (in production) |
| 05:16.57 | levi | Weird. |
| 05:17.33 | Maquis | my guess is that it used to be different, and they changed it, but didn't want to change the name everywhere or something |
| 05:17.53 | Maquis | but they forgot to change the comment |
| 05:19.39 | Maquis | anyway, tomorrow's the intern outing, so i'm pretty excited, and i should get to bed moderately soon |
| 05:19.48 | levi | Intern outing? |
| 05:19.53 | Maquis | yeah |
| 05:19.58 | levi | Is that where you graduate to outtern? |
| 05:20.06 | Maquis | they're taking the interns all out for the day... |
| 05:20.27 | levi | "Take 'em out!" |
| 05:20.40 | Maquis | apparently my team's going bowling next week... |
| 05:21.06 | Maquis | the team went out to eat last week |
| 05:21.20 | levi | Cool. |
| 05:21.31 | Maquis | yeah |
| 05:21.32 | Maquis | it's fun |
| 05:21.38 | Maquis | we do all type of weird things during work hours |
| 05:22.11 | tensai | we do too, but not many of them are company sanctioned :) |
| 05:22.21 | Maquis | see, ours are company paid-for |
| 05:22.38 | Maquis | that's even better than company sanctioned :) |
| 05:23.14 | levi | My company rented out a theater for EpIII. |
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| 05:23.40 | Maquis | levi: my team went... and most of the other teams did too |
| 05:23.45 | traila | any girls in here |
| 05:23.48 | Maquis | jared's team went opening day... mine went day after |
| 05:23.56 | Maquis | traila: why? |
| 05:23.59 | levi | We get free drinks! |
| 05:24.18 | Maquis | levi: we do too... i generally avoid those, though |
| 05:24.18 | traila | just wondering |
| 05:24.32 | Maquis | traila: ah... |
| 05:24.40 | traila | so is there |
| 05:24.54 | tensai | I'm in a remote office with only one other person, so we kinda miss out on all the parties |
| 05:25.08 | Maquis | well... |
| 05:25.13 | Maquis | i was going to say that there is 1 |
| 05:25.19 | levi | Maquis: We've got bottled water, juices, all manner of canned soft drinks, etc. Plus hot chocolate and coffee. |
| 05:25.21 | Maquis | but some people can't wait... |
| 05:25.26 | Maquis | levi: oh... that kind... |
| 05:25.38 | Maquis | we have free hot-chocolate, coffee, hot cider, etc... |
| 05:25.53 | levi | Oh yeah, I forgot the cider. |
| 05:25.58 | Maquis | i was referring to the other term of "drinks" |
| 05:26.26 | Maquis | my second day on the job, one of my coworkers asked my boss when our next team binge-drinking party would be |
| 05:26.35 | Maquis | i'm hoping they wait until after the summer's over |
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| 05:35.14 | levi | Heh. |
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| 05:47.19 | Maquis | levi: yeah |
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| 05:49.49 | Maquis | oops |
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| 05:50.30 | levi | Having trouble? |
| 05:50.31 | Maquis | ah... much better |
| 05:50.51 | Maquis | switched irc back into screen |
| 05:50.57 | Maquis | means that i have a weird connection... |
| 05:51.00 | Maquis | but oh well |
| 05:51.19 | Maquis | anyway, gnight all |
| 05:51.45 | levi | G'night, Maquis. |
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| 13:26.26 | Maquis | ~lart goozbach |
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| 14:32.41 | decriptor | Jayce^ gets operator status what's this world coming to :) |
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| 14:34.32 | decriptor | and I guess not around either comment gone to waste |
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| 14:37.28 | Jayce^ | you say it as if it's something new.. |
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| 14:44.56 | decriptor | no I knew it wasn't |
| 14:45.08 | decriptor | just being stupid |
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| 14:49.37 | dataw0lf | omg Jayce^ has ops!1! |
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| 15:24.00 | Jayce^ | http://tinyurl.com/9cr6u |
| 15:24.08 | Jayce^ | will be right in there the week after next |
| 15:25.52 | dataw0lf | Montana rocks. |
| 15:26.00 | Jayce^ | family cabin there |
| 15:26.05 | Jayce^ | *real* cabin, that is |
| 15:26.33 | dataw0lf | good stuff. |
| 15:26.42 | dataw0lf | doing some rock climbing whilst you're out there? |
| 15:27.04 | tensai | Jayce^: you gonna stop by and grab some lunch with me? |
| 15:27.06 | Jayce^ | as you can tell, power lines stop 20+ miles away |
| 15:27.11 | Jayce^ | tensai, yeah, probably saturday |
| 15:27.15 | Jayce^ | deciding right now |
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| 15:27.28 | Jayce^ | planning on hitting playmill theater either friday or saturday night |
| 15:27.40 | Jayce^ | dataw0lf, no real climbing, just hiking |
| 15:27.59 | dataw0lf | Jayce^: still fun stuff though. |
| 15:28.09 | Jayce^ | very |
| 15:28.11 | dataw0lf | I used to work in the Tetons, and lived in Bozeman for a while. |
| 15:28.22 | dataw0lf | Montana and Oregon : 2 favorite states. |
| 15:28.23 | Jayce^ | tetons are great, lived near there for a while |
| 15:28.29 | Jayce^ | family is from the two places |
| 15:28.40 | dataw0lf | Nice. |
| 15:29.12 | dataw0lf | yeah, I used to do trad and sport instruction in the Tetons, I really would like to work another summer there. |
| 15:29.20 | dataw0lf | But first I have to hit up all the great Utah spots :) |
| 15:29.26 | Jayce^ | hike up to tabletop a lot? |
| 15:31.19 | dataw0lf | eh, not much. |
| 15:35.13 | tensai | Jayce^: so that'd be July 2nd? |
| 15:36.39 | Jayce^ | no, the saturday after |
| 15:37.40 | tensai | I might be out of town that weekend :(. High school reunion. Depends on when my baby is born. |
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| 15:39.35 | Jayce^ | well, we're driving up next friday, but it'll be evening |
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| 16:20.41 | bonez39 | hans? no hans today? ;) |
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| 16:21.37 | bonez39 | I have two hard drives....Hans helped me get set up....for my linux system...one drive, the primary...is bad, but holds the boot data and then switches control to the secondary hdd....what would I use to view the status, the health of each drive? |
| 16:22.56 | levi | Bah, I made my root partition too small. :/ |
| 16:23.34 | roscivs | levi: symlinks are your friend :-) |
| 16:24.04 | levi | Yeah, but now I've got to wait as I copy tons of crap over to the other partition. |
| 16:24.14 | roscivs | True enough. |
| 16:24.32 | roscivs | LVM is your friend :-) |
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| 16:25.00 | levi | Yeah, but I've never bothered with it before. Figuring it out would probably take longer than copying the tons of crap. ;) |
| 16:25.18 | roscivs | Neither have I, I just wanted to say something insightful :-) |
| 16:25.32 | hans | "something insightful" |
| 16:26.37 | tensai | I love LVM |
| 16:37.01 | dataw0lf | that's sad. May I recommend some nice girls I know? |
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| 16:37.48 | mheath | ~lart Standard Examiner Newspaper Carriers |
| 16:38.15 | tensai | ~lart dataw0lf |
| 16:39.10 | dataw0lf | ;) |
| 16:39.18 | dataw0lf | just joking with you, tensai. |
| 16:39.23 | tensai | dataw0lf: pretty clever, I admit |
| 16:39.27 | Jayce^ | amusement in the office, watching just *how* fast a 6lb costco bag of gummie bears dissapear .. |
| 16:39.37 | mheath | Our newspaper carrier stopped delivering because of "non-payment", despite the fact that we've only not been able to pay for 4 days (my dads out of town) |
| 16:39.44 | dataw0lf | tensai: hehe |
| 16:40.32 | mheath | I called up the newspaper, and they agree that was screwed up, but she said she needs her supervisors approval to reactivate an account deactivated for non-payment, and he's out of town until Sunday. |
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| 16:46.11 | tensai | OINK OINK OINK! |
| 16:46.22 | harleypi1 | *snort* |
| 16:46.26 | harleypi1 | *snuffle* |
| 16:46.43 | harleypi1 | ?harleypi1 ... |
| 16:47.26 | HarleyPi1 | Well, that sucks. |
| 16:48.00 | Jayce^ | help 'eh? |
| 16:48.50 | HarleyPig | :/ *blush* Forgot that /nick ... changed to ... |
| 16:49.57 | Jayce^ | help, he needs somebody... help.. |
| 16:50.33 | HarleyPig | I was in the obscure reference mode the other day ... kept confusing everyone. :> |
| 16:50.54 | HarleyPig | I didn't stick to one genre ... quoted references to movies, songs, books ... it was a fun day. |
| 16:51.07 | Jayce^ | you been dropping again? |
| 16:51.13 | dataw0lf | how obscure? |
| 16:51.49 | Jayce^ | remember HarleyPig incoherent != obscure |
| 16:52.18 | mheath | dataw0lf: really quick question. I don't want to turn this into an argument again, but I wanted to know why you thought I should go ET over QM? |
| 16:52.24 | mheath | I'm not going to argue with anything you say |
| 16:52.43 | dataw0lf | mheath: Because of the amount of training they give you as an ET. |
| 16:53.07 | mheath | Ah, ok..... |
| 16:53.09 | dataw0lf | and that it counts as college credit (real college credit, most military schools supposedly count, but you actually have an AA afterwards) |
| 16:53.16 | dataw0lf | Plus, rank advancement. |
| 16:53.32 | dataw0lf | you'll see e-5 alot quicker, and have alot more responsiblity as an ET. |
| 16:54.57 | spr | http://www.secretgeek.net/ms_search.asp |
| 16:55.53 | tensai | spr: awesome! |
| 16:57.30 | neybar_work | and you get to phone home... |
| 16:57.42 | HarleyPig | www.netdisaster.com ... pretty cool |
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| 16:59.57 | spr | just forwarding the word from sjansen |
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| 17:08.51 | misterpull | HarleyPig: netdisaster is the greatest thing I've seen all day |
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| 17:18.29 | HarleyPig | Glad to have been of help. :> |
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| 17:24.50 | dataw0lf | HarleyPig: that's some pretty hot stuff, sir. danke. |
| 17:25.22 | HarleyPig | Welcome ... I just carpet bombed my website ... strangely cathartic. |
| 17:26.28 | dataw0lf | hehe |
| 17:39.05 | HarleyPig | Can anyone tell me why I can't unmerge gpm from my gentoo system without completely breaking it? I tried emerge -C gpm && revdep-rebuild and it unmerges gpm fine, but then I can't do *anything*; not even ls a directory, let alone recompile the b0rked packages. |
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| 17:45.45 | colera | anyone here doing folding@home? |
| 17:46.03 | vontrapp | i fold laundry@home |
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| 17:46.18 | HarleyPig | I think this stoopid machine has spyware installed. |
| 17:48.31 | misterpull | HarleyPig: it could be worse... my veteran PC using friend helped spread an MSN worm the other day |
| 17:48.37 | misterpull | he felt like a dope |
| 17:48.43 | HarleyPig | heh |
| 17:49.04 | misterpull | seriously though... Microsoft's antispyware is a pretty nice product |
| 17:49.39 | HarleyPig | I didn't realize MS had one ... can you give me a link? |
| 17:49.43 | colera | vontrapp: lol |
| 17:49.55 | mheath | HarleyPig: you can download it through windows update |
| 17:50.04 | HarleyPig | Thanks ... I'll check it out. |
| 17:51.47 | jsmith | misterpull: Does it only run on XP, or older flavors of Windows? |
| 17:52.07 | mheath | Only XP. |
| 17:52.08 | misterpull | 2000 / XP / 2003 |
| 17:52.19 | misterpull | mheath: we are talking about different products |
| 17:52.39 | mheath | Ah. |
| 17:53.00 | dataw0lf | heh. |
| 17:53.09 | dataw0lf | ductape, anyone? |
| 17:53.17 | HarleyPig | hey, my boss has ad-aware on this machine ... |
| 17:53.39 | HarleyPig | Is ad-aware still one of the better anti-spyware software? |
| 17:53.53 | misterpull | http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/spyware/software/default.mspx |
| 17:54.12 | mheath | Just wondering something....out of (Batman Begins, Mr. & Mrs. Smith, Herbie Fully Loaded, Land of the Dead, Madagascar, Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants, Lords of Dogtown, Advetures of Shark Boy & Lava GIrl, Monster-In-Law) what would you choose to go to a movie with your girlfriend? |
| 17:54.13 | misterpull | my choices go: MS, Spybot S&D, then adaware |
| 17:54.29 | misterpull | Sisterhood... |
| 17:54.42 | misterpull | Madagascar was a POS |
| 17:54.42 | jsmith | Batman |
| 17:55.21 | misterpull | HarleyPig: don't be afraid that MS antispyware is "beta" |
| 17:55.22 | mheath | I'm going to see Herbie sometime myself, for no other reason than nostalgia. I used to LOVE the original Herbie movies when I was little. But I don't think I'd see that with my girlfriend.. |
| 17:55.46 | scott | mheath: Batman |
| 17:56.16 | mheath | You sure that would be a good movie to see with a girlfriend? =\ |
| 17:56.27 | HarleyPig | misterpull: All of MS is in beta. |
| 17:56.36 | HarleyPig | Land of the Dead! |
| 17:56.50 | HarleyPig | Make sure you see the last showing too. |
| 17:56.58 | mheath | haha |
| 17:57.08 | HarleyPig | Then get your friends to get made up and surround the car when you get to her house ... |
| 17:57.10 | HarleyPig | :> |
| 17:57.52 | misterpull | HarleyPig: they bought GIANT and it is only beta because they put MS branding on it |
| 17:59.47 | HarleyPig | Never heard of GIANT ... but I haven't seen MS put out anything that wasn beta quality. |
| 18:00.20 | misterpull | Server 2003 is pretty nice :) |
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| 18:52.56 | neybar_work | is there a way to chat with a user on display :0 from a shell |
| 18:53.55 | Jayce^ | shutdown -h now tends to get a message across |
| 18:53.59 | neybar_work | mheath, I really enjoyed Mr. & Ms. Smith |
| 18:54.01 | neybar_work | lol |
| 18:54.43 | mheath | I'm guessing, however, that it's not a "cuddle with your girlfriend and makeout" movie :D (before that comment scares you, remember I'm a highschool student..) |
| 18:55.03 | neybar_work | definately not |
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| 18:55.29 | mheath | thats rather what I'm looking for |
| 18:55.29 | neybar_work | but it is hard to knock explosions, guns and gratuitous violence |
| 18:55.49 | mheath | lol, indeed. |
| 18:56.28 | neybar_work | there isn't much plot to get in the way of the explosions |
| 18:56.44 | goozbach | like david bowie said, bit tits and explosions lead to box-office blasts |
| 18:57.20 | neybar_work | well M&M smith has that in spades |
| 18:59.19 | goozbach | neybar_work: get the MIT-Magic cookie, then launch an Xterm |
| 18:59.23 | goozbach | then use write |
| 18:59.27 | goozbach | or talk |
| 19:00.24 | goozbach | or if they already have a term open, just use write |
| 19:00.58 | goozbach | wall may do the trick as well |
| 19:05.00 | Jayce^ | http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1828859,00.asp |
| 19:05.12 | Jayce^ | interesting read about a different motive behind the apple-intel thing |
| 19:05.12 | mheath | anyone here experienced with user account settings on Windows NT/XP? |
| 19:05.31 | mheath | I'm having an interesting, odd problem with this windows computer |
| 19:08.35 | neybar_work | that is an interesting article |
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| 19:08.51 | Jayce^ | I hadn't thought about something like that |
| 19:09.04 | tensai | mheath: explain further, perhaps someone will know |
| 19:09.30 | mheath | well, I had to run a repair on this machine using a Pre-SP1 XP disc, but the system was updaed to SP2 |
| 19:09.31 | neybar_work | yeah, it is generally better to just ask, than to ask if you can ask... |
| 19:09.50 | mheath | And it broke a secondary administrator acount account (mine) |
| 19:09.56 | mheath | er -acount |
| 19:10.15 | mheath | When I went to log on, it told me it couldn't load my profile, and that it would use a temporary one which would go away on logout |
| 19:10.39 | mheath | So I logged onto another account, deleted the broken account ("Michael") and created a new one with the same name ("Michael") |
| 19:11.26 | mheath | Now my documents and settings directory is C:\Documents and Settings\Michael.FAMILYROOM (FAMILYROOM is the name of the machine) |
| 19:11.48 | mheath | I was wondering if there was anyway I could get it to go back to just Michael |
| 19:12.49 | goozbach | there is a setting for that in the adanced users tool I believe |
| 19:12.58 | goozbach | I don't remember how to get to it however |
| 19:13.15 | tensai | yes, it's possible. I've done it recently in fact. |
| 19:13.45 | tensai | lemme see if I can remember how... |
| 19:13.47 | Jayce^ | he lies |
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| 19:16.24 | spr | ~seen Newsome |
| 19:16.24 | ibot | newsome <~sorenson@obelix.cs.byu.edu> was last seen on IRC in channel #utah, 17d 21h 55m 14s ago, saying: 'Like I said, it merely showed that Scheme is better than C++. That doesn't particularly speak to the merits of Scheme.'. |
| 19:21.06 | tensai | mheath: here's my guess. 1) log in as administrator. 2) move both directories somewhere else. 3) log in again as Michael. that should create a new home directory. 4) copy the files you want from the old directories. may need to be admin to get access, or grant yourself ownership in step 1. |
| 19:22.07 | tensai | incidentally, the reason it created a new one is because the two users, even though they have the same name, have a different security ID thus XP seems them as different. |
| 19:22.30 | tensai | ~smack Jayce^ |
| 19:22.30 | ibot | ACTION smacks Jayce^ upside the head. |
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| 19:33.25 | Jayce^ | ~paint tensai |
| 19:33.25 | ibot | ACTION rains a tape stream of paintballs on tensai |
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| 19:36.53 | Tene | so... cisco 678 brokenness? |
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| 20:08.32 | Jayce | bah, hate going to wireless from wired.. |
| 20:09.54 | vontrapp | Jayce: just throttle your wired so there's no difference when you switch :p |
| 20:10.12 | vontrapp | what happened to your ^ |
| 20:10.20 | Jayce | I mean the problem of sevices that lose track by the changing, eg irc resetting me |
| 20:12.58 | Jayce | it logged me out :) |
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| 20:15.45 | hans | Jayce: go over a vpn connection and it will stay the same |
| 20:16.11 | hans | your vpn will reset, but everything else will have the same ip address and tcp sessions will resume |
| 20:16.50 | Hhhhh | hello |
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| 20:21.01 | vontrapp | w00t |
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| 20:45.01 | bonez39 | I upgraded, with apt-get, several packages, including mozilla-thunderbird...now, I can't access it, mozilla says it's already running....prompts me to create a new profile.... |
| 20:45.12 | bonez39 | how do I access the existing profile? |
| 20:46.10 | tensai | are you sure it isn't running? |
| 20:46.38 | vontrapp | did you stop and restart it after the upgrade? |
| 20:47.05 | tensai | I would guess the profile is in .mozilla, but I'm not a thunderbird user. I know firefox put it's preferences there. |
| 20:49.27 | bucky | bonez39, bring up top |
| 20:50.22 | bucky | type in u for user, type in the user name, type k for kill, type the pid number for mozilla-bin or whatever it's called |
| 20:50.42 | bucky | make sure mozilla isn't running when you do this |
| 20:50.58 | bucky | and kill it |
| 20:51.22 | bucky | either that or log out and back in |
| 20:52.13 | bonez39 | bucky: I'll try the kill first...and then relog if not working |
| 20:55.37 | bonez39 | bucky: ok, that got it working again....brings up the issue of backup...what files should be backed up...in the event an upgrade hoses the installation, so that profile data is not lost? |
| 20:55.51 | bucky | that costs extra |
| 20:56.43 | goozbach | Jayce^: just ssh into a screen session using irssi |
| 20:56.57 | goozbach | have the screen session on an always running box |
| 20:59.19 | bucky | bonez39, |
| 20:59.25 | bucky | you got a burner? |
| 21:01.13 | tensai | goozbach: but irssi blows compared to xchat |
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| 21:10.29 | hans | tensai: nonsense. xchat is what blows |
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| 21:14.13 | synic | there are some out there, but none are as good as just irssi+screen |
| 21:14.20 | synic | unfortunately, I also like xchat more. |
| 21:14.54 | tensai | I tried bitchx and irssi. didn't care for either. |
| 21:14.59 | bucky | i like xchat in text mode |
| 21:15.26 | hans | irssi is great, more sane than xchat and so much more compat. |
| 21:15.49 | synic | irssi is hard to use if you're in a ton of channels |
| 21:16.10 | bonez39 | tensai: bucky I can launch tbird with command line parameter a la mozilla-thunderbird -P default...and that launches with all the accounts in place, just bare mozilla-thunderbird launch though, gives a blank tbird.... |
| 21:16.10 | hans | c-n/p |
| 21:16.26 | synic | hans: yeah, but there's no way to know which is which. |
| 21:16.40 | hans | you get used to the order |
| 21:16.42 | synic | and if you use auto-connect with irssi, it doesn't always put them in the same order |
| 21:17.06 | bucky | bonez39, i don't do thunderbird |
| 21:17.08 | hans | so you'd rather use the mouse. that's like going to disk |
| 21:17.30 | bonez39 | bucky: thanks...I'll try it |
| 21:17.49 | synic | going to disk ? |
| 21:19.16 | tensai | hans: alt-1, alt-2, ... alt-n |
| 21:24.52 | bucky | why is www.merkeylaw.com hosted on |
| 21:25.23 | bucky | why is www.merkeylaw.com hosted on Off Campus Tele Communications, a phone card company who's main business is phone cards for BYU student? |
| 21:27.42 | tensai | merkey lives in byu student housing and hosts his site in his home? |
| 21:31.11 | vontrapp | bucky, OCT is also an isp for byu student housing |
| 21:32.07 | bucky | i called OCT and talked to someone named Cooper.. his was unaware that the site was even on the netblock OCT owns |
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| 21:32.59 | bucky | OCT is owned by someone named Chad Bauer i think.. he's at his resort in Idaho for the summer |
| 21:34.49 | vontrapp | hans: like going to disk, that's awesome, i never tire of your allegorical sk1llZ |
| 21:35.49 | vontrapp | OCT hands out public ip addresses, why should they now every site that's hosted on someones ip? |
| 21:35.50 | synic | Plaintiff Jeffrey Vernon Merkey (“Merkey”) is an individual who resides at 1058 East 50 South, Lindon Uta |
| 21:37.14 | bucky | and Cooper didn't return my phone call |
| 21:38.17 | mheath | my last few hours working at that horrid place |
| 21:38.21 | tensai | hmm. that's not exactly byu student housing. course, if it's dsl then the location doesn't matter. just has to be in the same state. |
| 21:40.26 | bucky | Merkey was on FOX last night talking about http://www.sltrib.com/utah/ci_2821134 |
| 21:40.44 | bucky | saying Mooney was ruining everything for real Indians |
| 21:46.01 | bucky | can you get a temple recommend if you're smoking peyote? |
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| 23:13.03 | goozbach | ~paint sjansen |
| 23:13.03 | ibot | ACTION rains a tape stream of paintballs on sjansen |
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| 23:18.05 | hans | ~lart xfce |
| 23:20.11 | hans | removing the ability to float (relocate at your own discretion) the panel |
| 23:20.29 | hans | must EVERYONE follow the lead of gnome and remove all hints of user choice? |
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