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| 01:08.56 | roscivs | If you were to create a boolean[] out of a bit vector, would it make more sense to have the MSB or the LSB be array element 0? |
| 01:11.02 | roscivs | For example, in the bit vector 0x20, would boolean[2] = true or would boolean[5] = true? |
| 01:14.54 | goozbach | MLB.com gameday rocks |
| 01:15.04 | goozbach | that's the way to use flash |
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| 01:54.20 | xbmodder_lappy2 | hey |
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| 01:54.32 | xbmodder_lappy | hey |
| 01:56.23 | xbmodder_lappy | i'm guessing there is alot more to that story about the lost kid in utah |
| 01:56.51 | roscivs | Why do you say that? |
| 01:59.56 | xbmodder_lappy | it just seems so. |
| 02:00.17 | roscivs | Oh. I thought you had some grand theory or had read something suspicious or some such. |
| 02:00.23 | xbmodder_lappy | no kid in the right mind would hide from searchers when he is starving and dehydrated |
| 02:00.45 | xbmodder_lappy | unless americans are raising idiot |
| 02:00.45 | xbmodder_lappy | s |
| 02:01.00 | roscivs | I wouldn't be surprised. |
| 02:01.07 | roscivs | ;-) |
| 02:14.22 | mheath | xbmodder_lappy: please shut up |
| 02:14.40 | mheath | and read news articles before you start to critize slightly mentally handicapped kids for being slightly mentally handicapped. |
| 02:15.01 | mheath | The kid was born way early, and his brain is under developed. Hes slow. |
| 02:15.06 | mheath | Plus...he's 11. |
| 02:16.02 | mheath | if you were 11 years old and out in the middle of nowhere, and all the sudden theres strange people all around you, what would you do? |
| 02:16.29 | roscivs | and I was starving? I'd say, "Hey, do you have any food?" |
| 02:16.50 | mheath | he wasnt starving |
| 02:16.59 | mheath | you can go 30 days without food |
| 02:17.02 | mheath | he'd gone 4. |
| 02:17.06 | roscivs | I meant it figuratively, |
| 02:17.13 | roscivs | like if I skip a meal and I say, "I'm starving!" |
| 02:17.33 | roscivs | If I were "starving" in that sense, I'd say, "Sheesh, I'm hungry. Where's the grub?" |
| 02:17.45 | goozbach | you can survive for 30 days |
| 02:18.11 | goozbach | but go 4-5 without and see if you aren't 'starving' |
| 02:18.48 | roscivs | Man. I'm starving right now. Maybe I'll order pizza. |
| 02:18.55 | roscivs | mmmmmmm. pizza. |
| 02:22.07 | roscivs | Has anyone tried Freevo? |
| 02:22.16 | roscivs | I'm running mythtv ... just wondering how it compared. |
| 02:27.21 | goozbach | because I'm starving |
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| 02:59.20 | xbmodder | umm |
| 02:59.21 | xbmodder | at 11 |
| 02:59.36 | xbmodder | and pampered i think you'd feel hungry |
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| 03:27.30 | tensai | mmm. crab cakes. |
| 03:35.11 | misterpull | the daily show is one of the few things that always makes me laugh out loud. tonight's is great. |
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| 03:44.51 | xbmodder | timriker, is GvzEvxre your secret alias? |
| 03:44.54 | xbmodder | Hhhhh, hey |
| 03:45.07 | misterpull | ~rot13 xbmodder |
| 03:45.07 | ibot | kozbqqre |
| 03:45.27 | xbmodder | ~rot13 timericker |
| 03:45.27 | ibot | gvzrevpxre |
| 03:45.31 | xbmodder | hehe |
| 03:45.39 | xbmodder | ~rot13 TimRicker |
| 03:45.39 | ibot | GvzEvpxre |
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| 04:48.51 | xbmodder | why do all my friends blame me when their computer gets hacked? |
| 04:50.38 | xbmodder | i need an orinoco silver card |
| 04:50.43 | xbmodder | anyone wanna provide? |
| 04:51.34 | goozbach | xbmodder: I need two 300G SATA drives... up to a trade? |
| 04:52.14 | xbmodder | goozbach, anything else you wanna trade for... maybe of equal value? |
| 04:53.04 | goozbach | wadda got? |
| 04:53.17 | goozbach | that's of value? |
| 04:55.55 | xbmodder | um |
| 04:56.01 | xbmodder | 40g IDE drive |
| 04:56.07 | xbmodder | lots of server space |
| 04:56.18 | xbmodder | lets see. |
| 04:56.22 | xbmodder | i might have a computer |
| 04:56.26 | xbmodder | 999 Mhz |
| 04:56.50 | xbmodder | monitor |
| 04:57.03 | xbmodder | 20 dollar room air filter |
| 04:57.12 | xbmodder | some explosives |
| 04:57.28 | xbmodder | *bathroom air filter |
| 04:57.41 | xbmodder | a broken printer |
| 04:57.43 | xbmodder | a printer |
| 04:57.51 | xbmodder | a cordless phone |
| 04:58.27 | xbmodder | my friends hard drive (got a lot of pr0n on it.... long story there) |
| 04:59.54 | xbmodder | any of those? |
| 05:00.50 | Maquis | ~lart goozbach |
| 05:01.29 | xbmodder | lmao |
| 05:01.34 | xbmodder | Maquis, sup? |
| 05:02.19 | xbmodder | what happened to (distro)-kid? |
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| 05:10.31 | xbmodder | goozbach? |
| 05:10.55 | xbmodder | *silence* |
| 05:17.24 | goozbach | I said of value... |
| 05:17.31 | goozbach | :) |
| 05:20.46 | goozbach | ~lart this flaky connection |
| 05:23.52 | mheath | goozbach: i dunno, I hear those 999 mhz computeres go for a lot of money these days ;) |
| 05:25.24 | mheath | goozbach: or, you could always buy the explosives and the 999 mhz computer, and put it out of it's misery. |
| 05:33.56 | mheath | xbmodder: why do you have explosives? |
| 05:34.21 | mheath | And, perhaps more importantly, why are you trying to sell explosives for cheap consumer electronics? |
| 05:58.30 | levi | Good evening. |
| 05:59.46 | mheath | levi: Good evening. |
| 06:01.06 | goozbach | 55 |
| 06:02.59 | goozbach | stupid freakin connection |
| 06:04.16 | levi | Whassup? |
| 06:04.43 | goozbach | it keeps flaking out |
| 06:05.02 | goozbach | I'm re-connecting every three minutes |
| 06:05.32 | levi | What's the connection's provider? |
| 06:07.19 | goozbach | some stupid hotel connection |
| 06:07.35 | levi | Oh. |
| 06:07.45 | levi | Well, that's what you get for having a travelling job. |
| 06:11.48 | xbmodder | mheath, its a hobby |
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| 10:13.44 | stuporglue | Anyone in here? |
| 10:14.03 | stuporglue | I guess it might be kind of early in Utah right now... |
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| 14:20.19 | Uncle_Jesse | alright - which cellphone should I get? Motorola A780 or Treo 650 |
| 14:22.14 | dataw0lf | I'd go with the Treo. |
| 14:25.00 | tyce | razor ;) |
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| 14:30.58 | Uncle_Jesse | razor isn't a smartphone |
| 14:31.27 | Uncle_Jesse | A780 is Linux-based however |
| 14:31.39 | Uncle_Jesse | higher-resolution camera |
| 14:31.51 | Uncle_Jesse | I think higher-resolution screen too |
| 14:32.10 | Uncle_Jesse | everyone raves about the Treo though |
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| 14:48.45 | Uncle_Jesse | Anyone know someone that owns the Motorola A780? |
| 14:49.16 | emcnabb | Uncle_Jesse, I like my Treo 650 |
| 14:49.52 | emcnabb | sjansen got his working yesterday so he can access the 'net on his laptop with the cell phone network (via bluetooth) |
| 14:50.39 | vontrapp | do they charge you extra to use the 'net on the cell phone? |
| 14:50.54 | emcnabb | $15 month for unlimited data access (Sprint) |
| 14:51.05 | emcnabb | it's VERY nice |
| 14:52.56 | tyce | too bad sprint sucks |
| 14:53.16 | tyce | they do have a lot of nice phones though |
| 14:53.53 | Newsome | aren't they all flip-phones like Verizon? |
| 14:54.36 | Newsome | emcnabb: what sort of speed? |
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| 14:55.22 | tyce | they have some normal ones as well... http://www1.sprintpcs.com/explore/PhonesAccessories/AllPhones.jsp?refurl=jump_personal_wireless_plans_pcsphones |
| 14:56.05 | tyce | Ive been with t-mobile for a while and I love their service and support, but they are SO far behind the times when it comes to phones. |
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| 14:56.42 | tyce | asked a guy the other day that said he didn't think they'd offer the razor till after christmas! |
| 14:57.10 | tyce | ebay unlocked is the only way to go w/ them. |
| 14:57.17 | Newsome | I had Verizon with a Motorola phone, and hated every minute of it. |
| 14:57.33 | Newsome | I've been much happier with AT&T/Cingular and a Nokia phone |
| 14:57.43 | jsmith | Newsome: That's what I've got. |
| 14:58.22 | vontrapp | Newsome: sjansen said last night that it's a pretty decent speed, but high latency |
| 14:58.38 | vontrapp | about 500ms or soish |
| 14:58.42 | Newsome | hmm |
| 14:58.57 | tensai_ | that's rediculous. are they bouncing it off the moon? |
| 14:59.58 | vontrapp | too the moon, then some bouey out in the indian ocean |
| 15:00.08 | vontrapp | then wherever |
| 15:01.59 | emcnabb | tyce, I haven't had any problems with Sprint |
| 15:02.03 | Uncle_Jesse | Newsome: I like Nokias much better than Motorolas - owned both |
| 15:02.49 | Uncle_Jesse | I know a lot of people with the Treo that really like it. I'm just curious about the Motorola A780 because it's based on Linux and has a better camera and higher-resolution screen |
| 15:03.15 | vontrapp | and it's based on linux :D |
| 15:03.44 | vontrapp | which might make it easier to channel your laptop through it over bluetooth |
| 15:06.20 | Uncle_Jesse | yeah - I'd like to know someone that's used it though before I think about purchasing it over a Treo |
| 15:07.11 | tensai_ | why do anti-viruses insist on tagging scanned email as "clean"? like I'm going to trust some other mail server's definition of clean. |
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| 15:16.44 | tensai_ | Never keep a filled container in a hot car or car trunk. Heat will cause the gas pressure to increase, which may open the relief valve and allow gas to escape. |
| 15:16.44 | tensai_ | Ask the guys at AmeriGas what happens when you fill a tank truck in the winter and then move it into a warm building with a gas heater. I understand that puppy went up like a roman candle. |
| 15:22.05 | Uncle_Jesse | Jayce^: the job I'm looking into is in downtown Seattle |
| 15:22.15 | Uncle_Jesse | what area should I look in for housing? |
| 15:22.29 | Jayce^ | what part of downtown :) anything more specific? |
| 15:22.48 | Jayce^ | if it's right downtown, you could live in kitsap county an take the ferry |
| 15:22.52 | Jayce^ | cheaper that way |
| 15:26.18 | Uncle_Jesse | Jayce^: 1301 Fifth Avenue |
| 15:26.35 | Uncle_Jesse | 98101 |
| 15:27.00 | tyce | anyone want a free iPod shuffle? |
| 15:27.03 | tyce | http://www.chase.com/cm/cs?pagename=Chase/Href&urlname=crb/shared/module/article/ipod_Article.jsp |
| 15:28.30 | Jayce^ | yeah, go live in kitsap county, where I grew up then.. cheaper housing (actual land, rural)... |
| 15:28.50 | Jayce^ | you just ride the ferry, which is a great commute.. at that location you could just walk-on |
| 15:29.25 | Uncle_Jesse | cool - how do you pronounce kitsap? |
| 15:29.39 | hans | ketchup |
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| 15:30.18 | Uncle_Jesse | that's what I was wondering |
| 15:30.34 | Uncle_Jesse | is it a nice neighborhood? |
| 15:30.35 | vontrapp | the question is, did hans just make that up |
| 15:31.16 | hans | no, ketchup has been around for a long time |
| 15:31.24 | hans | descended from an asian fish sauce, actually. |
| 15:32.13 | vontrapp | oh good, now i can rest assured that the red stuff i eat is indeed not fake |
| 15:32.18 | tensai_ | planted some in puget sound and up sprung seattle |
| 15:33.28 | Uncle_Jesse | mmm...fish sauce |
| 15:33.36 | Jayce^ | kit -as in the car (knight rider).. Sap -- as in the stuff in trees :) |
| 15:33.42 | Uncle_Jesse | I cook with fish sauce for my Thai dishes |
| 15:33.52 | Uncle_Jesse | Jayce^: thanks |
| 15:33.53 | Jayce^ | it's not *a* neighborhood.. |
| 15:34.06 | Uncle_Jesse | I mean is the county a nice one to live in |
| 15:34.10 | Jayce^ | it's a county.. you'l live in one of a few towns |
| 15:34.25 | Uncle_Jesse | vontrapp: yeah, my wife hates the smell |
| 15:34.32 | Jayce^ | ferry's from bainbridge and bremerton drop you in the downtown area |
| 15:34.38 | Uncle_Jesse | I cooked with bad fish sauce the other day - very salty when it gets bad |
| 15:34.54 | Jayce^ | bainbridge is great looking, but filled with granolas |
| 15:34.57 | hans | kitt, Jayce^. |
| 15:35.00 | vontrapp | hmm, what makes it go bad? |
| 15:35.01 | Uncle_Jesse | Jayce^: excellent - I'll check out housing in kitsap then |
| 15:35.10 | Uncle_Jesse | granolas? |
| 15:35.16 | Uncle_Jesse | mmm...granola |
| 15:35.23 | Jayce^ | bremerton is an older town (home of the mothball fleet) |
| 15:35.38 | Uncle_Jesse | vontrapp: not sure, but something in my food was really salty - I attributed it to the year+ old fish sauce |
| 15:35.46 | Jayce^ | granola = washington slang for modern hippy/lefty/etc.. |
| 15:35.54 | Uncle_Jesse | lol |
| 15:36.03 | vontrapp | but the fish sauce is already many years+ old when you get it |
| 15:36.09 | Uncle_Jesse | vontrapp: you sure? |
| 15:36.17 | vontrapp | i think so |
| 15:36.22 | vontrapp | maybe not |
| 15:36.31 | vontrapp | but i know the fish paste stuff is |
| 15:36.44 | Uncle_Jesse | Jayce^: we'll see if I get the job first, but I need to know if it's worth even spending their money to fly out there |
| 15:37.08 | Jayce^ | personally, I love it... |
| 15:37.13 | Jayce^ | but I like the weather :) |
| 15:37.30 | Jayce^ | kitsap county is the peninsula in the middle of the puget sound |
| 15:37.39 | hans | backpack has drag and drop, upcoming rails release to make it silly easy to do drag and drop in your own rails app |
| 15:37.56 | hans | http://feeds.feedburner.com/LoudThinking?m=59 |
| 15:38.07 | vontrapp | i love silly easy |
| 15:38.41 | Jayce^ | might want to suggest, next time they are promoting their success stories, don't use their load/hit counts as an example of high end usage :) |
| 15:41.11 | Uncle_Jesse | Jayce^: it's not going to fall into the ocean in the next earthquake is it? :-) |
| 15:42.30 | hans | Uncle_Jesse: there are better things to worry about |
| 15:45.24 | vontrapp | yeah, like when granola falls into your ketchup |
| 15:46.09 | Uncle_Jesse | Uncle_Jesse: I don't care about anything else - I'm worried about earthquakes. :-) |
| 15:46.33 | hans | or talking to yourself |
| 15:46.54 | vontrapp | or your webmaster not responding ;) |
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| 15:48.20 | Uncle_Jesse | hans: I'm not afraid of talking to myself - I do it all the time |
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| 15:52.32 | hans | and the earth quakes all the time. nothing to fear |
| 16:07.48 | Uncle_Jesse | hans: yeah, in Seattle |
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| 16:17.16 | Jayce^ | Uncle_Jesse, supposedly every 20-40 years WA get's a big earthquake.. |
| 16:17.22 | Jayce^ | but that's it.. not like CA |
| 16:17.42 | Jayce^ | it is a subduction zone, but right now pressure is releasing via mt st helens |
| 16:17.49 | tapH20guru | dang that silly easy stuff is awesome... http://script.aculo.us/visual-effects |
| 16:18.22 | Uncle_Jesse | Jayce^: cool - that eases some of my tensions |
| 16:19.28 | xbmodder | CA rocks! |
| 16:21.16 | Uncle_Jesse | Jayce^: how long is the drive from UT to WA? |
| 16:23.31 | xbmodder | 839 mi (about 14 hours 24 mins) |
| 16:26.05 | Uncle_Jesse | xbmodder: thanks |
| 16:26.18 | Uncle_Jesse | How's the housing market there? Growing, stagnant, shrinking? |
| 16:26.31 | hans | shaking |
| 16:26.39 | Uncle_Jesse | I'd hate to leave the booming market here for a shrinking market and lose all the equity I've made. |
| 16:26.45 | Uncle_Jesse | hans: rotfl |
| 16:27.13 | Uncle_Jesse | VA is an awesome place to buy a house |
| 16:36.09 | Jayce^ | ~14 hours for me |
| 16:37.44 | jsmith | Uncle_Jesse: If only they weren't so expensive :-) |
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| 16:52.32 | Uncle_Jesse | jsmith: there are cheaper areas further from DC - we bought ours for around 180 and it's gone up close to 100k |
| 16:53.07 | jsmith | Uncle_Jesse: Yeah, but I've got family land near Fredericksburg |
| 16:53.27 | jsmith | Uncle_Jesse: At the same time, I don't want to spend 4 hours a day commuting |
| 16:55.52 | Uncle_Jesse | jsmith: yeah - if you work in DC. Although if you leave early enough it should only be a 1 hour commute from Fredericksburg. |
| 16:56.03 | Uncle_Jesse | I work in Richmond, so it's not too bad |
| 16:56.18 | Uncle_Jesse | We just bought our house south of Richmond |
| 16:56.29 | Uncle_Jesse | even further from DC where they are even cheaper |
| 16:57.52 | jsmith | Uncle_Jesse: Unfortunately, my only memories of Richmond are bad. |
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| 17:00.34 | levi | I used to live in Charlottesville. |
| 17:00.48 | levi | Graduated from high school there, in fact. |
| 17:02.42 | jsmith | levi: What, you didn't go to UVA? |
| 17:02.57 | levi | I almost applied there, but decided not to. |
| 17:02.58 | jsmith | levi: My father-in-law went to law school there. |
| 17:03.17 | jsmith | levi: Ever go to any Virginia Gentlemen concerts? |
| 17:03.34 | levi | BYU really wanted me to go to school there, and I was sick of doing applications, so I didn't bother finishing the UVA one. |
| 17:03.39 | levi | Nope. |
| 17:03.46 | levi | Didn't go to any concerts there. |
| 17:04.56 | jsmith | Just curious... |
| 17:07.03 | Uncle_Jesse | My wife turned down GW to go to BYU |
| 17:07.17 | Uncle_Jesse | what people do to go to BYU... |
| 17:07.22 | Uncle_Jesse | :-) |
| 17:07.37 | jsmith | Uncle_Jesse: I turned down BYU to go somewhere else -- does that count? |
| 17:07.38 | Uncle_Jesse | levi: Charlottesville is very pretty |
| 17:07.46 | mheath | GW? |
| 17:07.51 | Uncle_Jesse | jsmith: that's the way to do it :-) |
| 17:07.58 | Uncle_Jesse | mheath: George Washington |
| 17:08.08 | mheath | ah |
| 17:08.12 | levi | I probably should have gone somewhere else, but I didn't know better at the time. |
| 17:08.34 | vontrapp | i too was sick of applications, so i only applied to one, and that was BYU |
| 17:08.37 | vontrapp | so that's where i am |
| 17:08.47 | Uncle_Jesse | I like BYU - I'm just mad at them because they wouldn't accept me and there were all these students going there that didn't really want to be there |
| 17:08.56 | mheath | I don't know where I'm going to go..... |
| 17:09.24 | Uncle_Jesse | I went to University of Houston and finally settled at Strayer University |
| 17:09.29 | mheath | I'm joining the Navy, but I'm going to try to get into a program where they'll let you go to college full time until you get your bachelors, then ship you off to OCS |
| 17:09.32 | Uncle_Jesse | graduating in Oct - yay! |
| 17:10.10 | mheath | Only downside to that program is that you have to pay for the college yourself (although you're still paid by the Navy, and you always have G.I. Bill money) |
| 17:10.22 | mheath | So I'll probably end up going somewhere cheaper |
| 17:30.39 | dataw0lf | and you're in the Navy, don't forget that downside. |
| 17:32.02 | jsmith | Sounds like being a sardine to me... packed in a metal tin for months at a time... |
| 17:32.20 | jsmith | Of course, I always wanted to be a sonar guy in a submarine |
| 17:32.52 | dataw0lf | jsmith: yeah, that's bad. I was speaking of the ridicule you'll receive from other branches, though ;) |
| 17:33.14 | mheath | I'm going to be a Quartermaster |
| 17:33.25 | dataw0lf | haha |
| 17:33.35 | mheath | yeah, I'll be in a metal tin, but my job will have me up on the bridge looking out at the sea :) |
| 17:33.54 | mheath | dataw0lf: no relation to what a Quartermaster is in the Army, in case thats what you're thinking |
| 17:34.37 | dataw0lf | mheath: I know what a quartermaster in the Navy is. |
| 17:34.42 | hans | I don't |
| 17:34.46 | dataw0lf | the job description won't match what you'll be doing though. |
| 17:34.51 | dataw0lf | you won't be on the bridge, I assure you. |
| 17:35.01 | dataw0lf | hans: navigation |
| 17:35.47 | mheath | dataw0lf: quartermasters are also signalmen and helmsmen |
| 17:36.10 | mheath | How can you do either of those when you're not on the bridge? |
| 17:36.11 | dataw0lf | mheath: yes, they're assistants to the ships navigator and the ships helmsman |
| 17:36.14 | dataw0lf | haha |
| 17:36.25 | dataw0lf | unless you join as e-5+, you won't be on the bridge. |
| 17:36.30 | mheath | .... |
| 17:36.34 | dataw0lf | you'll be swabbing decks. |
| 17:36.38 | mheath | I'll be E-4 before I leave A school, dataw0lf |
| 17:36.40 | dataw0lf | and doing various other details. |
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| 17:36.48 | dataw0lf | yeah, you'll be supervising swabbing decks. |
| 17:37.05 | dataw0lf | and you'll have probably about 2 years of AD before you become e-5. |
| 17:37.10 | dataw0lf | if you're good. |
| 17:37.26 | dataw0lf | so, don't get your hopes up, you're in for a rough ride. |
| 17:37.33 | dataw0lf | I'd suggest going ET or MM in the Navy. |
| 17:37.44 | dataw0lf | that way at least you have some real responsibility, and you'll get your E-5 quick. |
| 17:37.51 | dataw0lf | plus technical experience |
| 17:37.54 | mheath | Nah, PO2 isn't *that* hard to make |
| 17:38.00 | dataw0lf | haha |
| 17:38.04 | mheath | ..... |
| 17:38.04 | dataw0lf | where are you getting your information from? |
| 17:38.23 | dataw0lf | I knew a guy who was a decent seaman who didn't make his e-5 for 5 years. |
| 17:38.27 | tensai_ | o/~ in the navy, you can sail the seven seas |
| 17:38.43 | mheath | dataw0lf: various navy personel I've talked to |
| 17:38.48 | mheath | dataw0lf: you're forgetting something |
| 17:39.10 | dataw0lf | forgetting what? |
| 17:39.12 | dataw0lf | your degree? |
| 17:39.16 | mheath | I'm in the USNSCC. I start off at E-3 immediatelly after basic, with opportunities for rapid promotion |
| 17:39.19 | hans | your laundry |
| 17:39.31 | dataw0lf | mheath: haha, that doesn't mean squat, I'm serious. |
| 17:39.40 | dataw0lf | I'm not trying to kill your hopes, but nobody cares about that. |
| 17:39.44 | dataw0lf | yes, you'll start off as e-3 |
| 17:39.50 | dataw0lf | tons of people start off as e-3 |
| 17:39.53 | dataw0lf | I started off as e-3 |
| 17:40.01 | mheath | Were you in the Navy? |
| 17:40.23 | dataw0lf | I was in the Army, I was on a carrier for two months on a mission, however, with some marines we were pathfinders for. |
| 17:40.48 | dataw0lf | I'm telling you right now, you probably won't even make e-5 unless you sign up past 4 years. |
| 17:40.56 | dataw0lf | You might, if you're an EXCELLENT seaman. |
| 17:40.59 | dataw0lf | but it's rare. |
| 17:41.22 | dataw0lf | you better be getting your lips moist though if you plan on doing it. |
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| 17:41.35 | xbmodder_ | hey |
| 17:41.47 | mheath | dataw0lf: by the way. QMoW stands watch on the bridge |
| 17:41.49 | xbmodder_ | these are the kind of dead ends M$ executes so well: http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=329052#appliesto |
| 17:41.55 | mheath | and thats the most common watch for qualified QMs |
| 17:42.00 | dataw0lf | mheath: e-5+ |
| 17:42.12 | dataw0lf | it's a skill level, and you earn responsibility for anything on the bridge. |
| 17:42.22 | dataw0lf | trust me. |
| 17:42.27 | mheath | No. From what I've read, tons of pre-non-commissers act as QMoW |
| 17:42.35 | mheath | *commissioneds |
| 17:42.57 | mheath | And yes, you have to qualify for it |
| 17:43.01 | mheath | but theres no rate requirement |
| 17:43.11 | mheath | its usually a time-on-ship and testing qualification |
| 17:43.16 | dataw0lf | I'm telling you, I read alot of things about the armed services too. |
| 17:43.19 | dataw0lf | just wait, hehe. |
| 17:43.24 | dataw0lf | join irc when you get your pds. |
| 17:43.30 | dataw0lf | and let me know how it's going for you. |
| 17:43.49 | mheath | and by the way |
| 17:43.59 | mheath | I *am* planning on staying in more than 4 years |
| 17:44.03 | dataw0lf | Good. |
| 17:44.13 | dataw0lf | Might change your mind after a couple of years though. |
| 17:44.20 | mheath | if you notice, earlier I said I'm going to try to get into a program that lets you go to college full time, then sends you to OCS |
| 17:44.44 | mheath | Doing that alone is like a 8+ requirement |
| 17:44.57 | dataw0lf | not necessarily. |
| 17:45.07 | dataw0lf | 8+?? |
| 17:45.10 | dataw0lf | nah. |
| 17:45.12 | dataw0lf | 4+ |
| 17:45.19 | dataw0lf | 5+ at the most |
| 17:45.29 | dataw0lf | could do 3 if you're lucky. |
| 17:45.42 | mheath | dataw0lf: well |
| 17:46.00 | mheath | you're only allowed to go to college full time for 2 years in this program (one of the pre. req. is that you already have some college credits) |
| 17:46.16 | mheath | And that time doesn't count towards your requirement |
| 17:46.26 | mheath | Because you're not really active, just going to college full time |
| 17:46.35 | mheath | Already, then, you're looking at 6 years |
| 17:46.43 | mheath | plus they tack on some extra for this program |
| 17:47.02 | dataw0lf | you're getting screwed then. |
| 17:47.21 | dataw0lf | do correspondence on your ship, you can make your BS in 3 or 4 years if you work really hard. |
| 17:47.42 | mheath | dataw0lf: 2 years off on full pay to go to college full time? And sent to OCS immediately after? |
| 17:47.46 | mheath | How is that getting screwed? |
| 17:48.14 | levi | dataw0lf: You will never convince mheath that he is wrong. :) |
| 17:48.28 | dataw0lf | you'll have your enlistment requirement and commissioned requirement, you don't have to sign up for all that to get a degree fully paid for by the military. |
| 17:48.38 | mheath | dataw0lf: I thought about the correspondence stuff.... |
| 17:48.41 | dataw0lf | mheath: if I hadn't been in a combat zone for almost 2 years out of my 3 I'd have my B.S. right now. |
| 17:48.42 | mheath | but I was talking to a recruiter |
| 17:48.54 | dataw0lf | yeah, he's trying to get that extra time. |
| 17:49.00 | dataw0lf | don't listen to a recruiter. |
| 17:49.08 | dataw0lf | he's getting paid extra money once you sign those extra forms. |
| 17:49.12 | dataw0lf | duh, c'mon man. |
| 17:49.30 | dataw0lf | don't listen to any Navy guy that has been assigned to 'recruit' or 'place' you |
| 17:49.31 | mheath | dataw0lf: I'm 16. Recruiters don't talk to me with the "Join. Now" attitude |
| 17:49.36 | dataw0lf | yes, they do. |
| 17:49.45 | dataw0lf | once you hit 17 they can get you. |
| 17:49.54 | mheath | This guy couldn't even recruit me |
| 17:49.58 | mheath | he was a recruiter in rate |
| 17:50.05 | dataw0lf | so? |
| 17:50.07 | mheath | but he was an in-processor at a reserve center |
| 17:50.11 | dataw0lf | haha |
| 17:50.15 | dataw0lf | they're worse than recruiters. |
| 17:50.44 | levi | I never let a recruiter talk to me for more than a minute. |
| 17:50.50 | dataw0lf | bah, if you don't want to listen to me, it's going to be your life in there, I'm just trying to share what I learned whilst in the Army and living on a ship for 2 months. |
| 17:51.11 | mheath | dataw0lf: did you ever talk to a recruiter when you were younger than 17? |
| 17:51.11 | dataw0lf | but I'd put 500 bucks you'll be on IRC whining within 6 months of joining. |
| 17:51.17 | mheath | They really do treat you differently |
| 17:51.21 | dataw0lf | mheath: Sure did. |
| 17:51.26 | dataw0lf | then when I was 17 |
| 17:51.26 | mheath | I've talked to recruiters and have them act annoyed I even approached them |
| 17:51.29 | dataw0lf | then when I was 18 |
| 17:51.35 | dataw0lf | etc |
| 17:51.48 | dataw0lf | in fact, when I was 16 and 17 I talked to Navy recruiters. |
| 17:52.04 | dataw0lf | took their AP test for their nuclear ET program, but then decided I wanted something 'hardcore'. |
| 17:52.17 | mheath | I even filled out the "More information" form on the navy website |
| 17:52.28 | mheath | And I got a letter basically saying "Go away, but contact us when you're 17." |
| 17:52.57 | dataw0lf | officially, I don't think they're allowed to even talk to you. |
| 17:53.05 | dataw0lf | but recruiters bend the rules all the time. |
| 17:53.45 | mheath | I'm just saying...what I heard from this recruiter.... |
| 17:53.47 | dataw0lf | thankfully, I got everything in my contract I wanted (SF, air assault, pathfinder, Germany PDS) because I just didn't listen to all their other offers |
| 17:53.58 | dataw0lf | I'd suggest you do the same. |
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| 17:54.26 | mheath | He said that the shipboard correspondance facilities (the computers, etc) are often really busy, with waiting lists |
| 17:54.43 | mheath | and therefore, trying to complete something like a BS in a short amount of time can be difficult |
| 17:54.52 | dataw0lf | it can, you just have to apply yourself. |
| 17:55.03 | mheath | yeah, I know its possible |
| 17:55.20 | mheath | this guy just basically said that while thats an option, he'd look into some other options for college first |
| 17:55.36 | mheath | and I wasn't just listening to him |
| 17:55.55 | mheath | I mentioned that my friend was a nuke ET, and he immediately started downplaying the QM rate and telling me how awesome ETs are |
| 17:56.06 | mheath | and how I'd get all this extra money, etc. |
| 17:56.19 | dataw0lf | I wouldn't sign up for anything that committed you to anything beyond your basic enlistment. |
| 17:56.21 | mheath | I don't just listen to everything recruiters say |
| 17:56.51 | dataw0lf | although, it might be a bit different since you'll probably get stop lossed anyway, if you're joining within the next 3 or 4 years. |
| 17:56.56 | dataw0lf | so it might be worth it. |
| 17:56.59 | mheath | My dad signed up for the airforce for 4 years, to avoid being in the army during vietnam |
| 17:57.06 | mheath | he ended up being in for 26 years |
| 17:57.21 | mheath | the first 15, he was pretty much forced to stay in |
| 17:57.36 | dataw0lf | I'd probably advise against joining the service nowadays *shrug* |
| 17:57.57 | mheath | dataw0lf: btw, I was going to ask you...are you sure you're familiar with all the stuff a QM does? |
| 17:58.29 | dataw0lf | mheath: quite familiar, every Army guy got assigned a Navy guy to show him around the ship. Since I was squad leader, I got an e-5 QM. |
| 17:58.31 | mheath | I mean, they have a top secret security clearance. Its not like you're going to have a QM tell you *everything* he's doing. |
| 17:58.42 | dataw0lf | oh? I had a security clearance too. |
| 17:58.49 | dataw0lf | what, you think I was just your regular ground pounder? |
| 17:58.55 | dataw0lf | I was a pathfinder, guy. |
| 17:59.03 | mheath | what level of security clearance? |
| 17:59.08 | dataw0lf | ts, what else? |
| 17:59.13 | dataw0lf | they hand those things out like hot cakes. |
| 17:59.38 | mheath | My friend whos a Nuke ET got a confidential security clearance just because of where he's going to school |
| 17:59.55 | dataw0lf | you're not going to learn who killed Kennedy. |
| 17:59.55 | mheath | top secret security clearances in the navy take about a year to get, though |
| 18:00.03 | dataw0lf | yeah, it takes a long time everywhere. |
| 18:00.23 | dataw0lf | all you'll probably learn are some specific friendly and enemy missile, torpedo, and radar fingerprints. |
| 18:00.36 | dataw0lf | you'll have the security clearance when you get out, though, which is win. |
| 18:00.51 | dataw0lf | good on an application and good for any job that might need a clearance that they don't want to shell out for. |
| 18:01.02 | mheath | dataw0lf: the highest level of security clearance the navy has, just for that? |
| 18:01.15 | dataw0lf | you're going to be ENLISTED. |
| 18:01.19 | dataw0lf | yes, just for that. |
| 18:01.22 | mheath | My friends learning about the electrical systems on nuclear submarines, and he only has a confidential clearance. |
| 18:01.38 | dataw0lf | god, ok, don't listen to me. |
| 18:01.45 | dataw0lf | just, trust me, it's not as cool as it sounds. |
| 18:01.54 | dataw0lf | I'm going to lunch. |
| 18:01.56 | mheath | I know its not that cool |
| 18:02.10 | jsmith | dataw0lf: Yeah, but you're bitter :-) |
| 18:02.20 | mheath | and I know that, especially when we're in port, I'll be spending most of my time chipping paint somewhere |
| 18:03.00 | mheath | but its the same thing with any job |
| 18:03.05 | mheath | theres good parts, and theres bad parts |
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| 20:26.25 | TimRiker | Jayce^: sent. thanx. |
| 20:27.52 | barkingspider | Anyone here have an experience owning an apple notebook computer and a major brand PC notebook like Dell or Sony? I'm wondering which is more durable. My initial guess is the Apple one. |
| 20:28.11 | mheath | barkingspider: definantly apple |
| 20:29.08 | Jayce^ | apple, much better |
| 20:29.12 | mheath | you might want to look in Panasonic's TouchBooks, though |
| 20:29.16 | mheath | they're supposed to be really rugged |
| 20:29.24 | barkingspider | It doesn't surprise me. They're the only ones that brag about polycarbonate plastic (same kind used in bulletproof glass) and a magnesium skeleton in the frame of the laptop. |
| 20:29.42 | mheath | yeah, my bad |
| 20:29.44 | mheath | *ToughBook |
| 20:29.49 | barkingspider | Hmmm Toughbook...i've seen those. Pretty expensive but nice. |
| 20:30.26 | mheath | The encasement is "shock and vibration hardened" |
| 20:30.35 | mheath | Internally shock-and-drop resistant |
| 20:30.41 | mheath | magnesium-alloy case |
| 20:30.44 | vontrapp | is that what you get when you want to go mountain biking with you laptop? |
| 20:30.48 | goozbach | the answer is apple... unless you include IBM/lenovo's line of laptops |
| 20:31.04 | barkingspider | Yeah, I could use a toughbook as a chestplate for mtn biking. |
| 20:31.29 | goozbach | barkingspider: no, The ThinkPads brag about the mag skel |
| 20:31.40 | mheath | apparently, though, your hard drive will be safer with Apple's powerbooks |
| 20:31.54 | mheath | apparently they have motion-detection built into them |
| 20:32.14 | mheath | that, I guess, shut down any mechanical parts of the hard disk safely, in the event of a drop |
| 20:32.25 | barkingspider | goozbach: I read the mag skeleton on apple's website an hour or two ago. |
| 20:32.48 | barkingspider | mheath: nice feature....bet it's a powerbook feature though. I'll probably end up getting a $850 ibook. |
| 20:33.39 | mheath | I'm reading an article on some of the testing apple did on their powerbooks |
| 20:33.48 | gthornock | The Powerbooks are nice. I believe I've read that the Thinkpad also had the hard drive sudden motion sensing now. |
| 20:33.48 | Jayce^ | it's in the newer pbooks, yes (writing this from one) |
| 20:33.56 | barkingspider | very nice. :) |
| 20:34.00 | mheath | Accelerating the lifecycle by puting them in a very hot room, inducing vibration, and humidity |
| 20:34.01 | goozbach | my T42 does |
| 20:34.19 | mheath | Dumping coke and other liquids on the keyboard |
| 20:34.40 | mheath | Smearking the trackpad with mayonnaise and hand lotion to see how it affects trackpad preformance |
| 20:34.50 | mheath | Driving over them with cars |
| 20:35.10 | mheath | (this article is old, but apparently at the time several Powerbooks survived that..) |
| 20:35.15 | barkingspider | wow nice... |
| 20:35.22 | hans | small children? |
| 20:35.26 | barkingspider | In that case, I could use them as weapons. |
| 20:36.14 | gthornock | hans: My Powerbook hasn't had any trouble around my almost-3-year-old, but I don't know how much of that is the Powerbook and how much is her knowing to leave it alone :) |
| 20:36.35 | Jayce^ | yeah, I wouldn't try that, but I had one of my cats knock an old ibook off a desk the other day.. no problems |
| 20:37.00 | barkingspider | I have two cats and a dog.... |
| 20:37.08 | hans | and a spider |
| 20:37.18 | barkingspider | One cat in particular has been called a "bitch" by my brother. She's very mischevious. |
| 20:37.22 | barkingspider | Yes hehehe |
| 20:38.57 | Jayce^ | I call my dog that, but she is one :) |
| 20:39.23 | barkingspider | I call my dog a saucy tart |
| 20:41.23 | mheath | I call my dog a dog. :) |
| 20:43.29 | barkingspider | How cruel! |
| 20:44.18 | vontrapp | i call my dog |
| 20:44.47 | barkingspider | Doh! I just saw the time... I'm gonna be late for class. See ya later and thanks for the info! |
| 20:44.55 | mheath | barkingspider: bye :) |
| 21:09.40 | neybar_work | I don't have a dog... nor do I want one |
| 21:09.56 | hans | not even a great pyrennese? |
| 21:11.54 | neybar_work | well, that would be ok, but that is less a dog and more a monster |
| 21:12.17 | hans | very nice dogs actually |
| 21:12.24 | neybar_work | in size |
| 21:12.27 | hans | esp mixed with a labrador |
| 21:12.33 | hans | no, sorry, golden retriever |
| 21:12.39 | hans | and not quite so huge in that case either |
| 21:12.49 | mheath | I want a black lab |
| 21:12.54 | mheath | they tend to be very playful and active |
| 21:13.06 | neybar_work | I'm sure some day my son is going to look pathetically cute while asking for a dog and I might have to reconsider my stance |
| 21:13.19 | hans | that's why you have to decide on what kind now |
| 21:13.28 | hans | so you don't get suckered into a poodle or something |
| 21:13.35 | neybar_work | lol |
| 21:13.45 | mheath | what kind of little boy wants a poodle? |
| 21:14.03 | hans | one influenced by the dark side |
| 21:14.49 | Jayce^ | neybar_work, I'll make sure your dog is able to ask when sophie has puppies :) |
| 21:14.51 | hans | a newfie would be fun if you like getting wet (and getting wet with your dog) |
| 21:15.02 | Jayce^ | same with labs |
| 21:15.20 | Jayce^ | had a newfie/golden mix growing up, excellent dog |
| 21:17.19 | neybar_work | Jayce^, you are going to ask my dog? what are you trying to say? |
| 21:18.02 | Jayce^ | rofl, doing too many things at once.. :) |
| 21:18.14 | Jayce^ | your son will ask for a yellow lab before long :) |
| 21:18.32 | neybar_work | lol *this is not the dog you are looking for* |
| 21:18.33 | Jayce^ | the perfect dog for a young boy :) |
| 21:19.33 | hans | you could even make a movie about it. and have it end sad like when the dog gets rabies |
| 21:20.58 | tensai_ | I'm sure my son would love to have a dog too. we'll see how well it goes when my mother-in-law brings her mutt over next week. |
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| 22:46.33 | vontrapp | ahh, nice rain |
| 22:52.52 | goozbach | anyone up for a quick game of bzflag? |
| 22:53.05 | goozbach | I wanna test my GLX settings |
| 22:53.06 | vontrapp | sure, in a minute |
| 22:53.14 | goozbach | aware of a server? |
| 22:53.15 | vontrapp | or 10 |
| 22:53.20 | vontrapp | no |
| 22:53.28 | goozbach | is the UUG server still up |
| 22:53.29 | goozbach | ? |
| 22:53.36 | goozbach | or TimRiker's? |
| 22:53.45 | vontrapp | hans could start one probably |
| 22:54.06 | vontrapp | or, i have a public ip |
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| 22:55.22 | goozbach | good cause I'm natted to all hell right now |
| 22:55.32 | goozbach | like three levels deep or so |
| 22:58.16 | vontrapp | do you have a server conf you'd like to use? |
| 23:02.49 | TimRiker | I only have an old server at present. though once the move is done I'll bug the xmission folk to get one back in the fragfarm. |
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| 23:04.40 | goozbach | maybe I could start a server on one of my virtual servers |
| 23:06.22 | vontrapp | favorite config file anyone? |
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| 23:07.43 | xbmodder_lappy | anyone here have a crazy fast maching? |
| 23:07.47 | xbmodder_lappy | *machine? |
| 23:08.09 | mrpull | my laptop can go about 100MPH in my car |
| 23:08.23 | mrpull | but my car isn't exactly "cazy fast" |
| 23:10.06 | mrpull | perhaps "cozy fast" |
| 23:10.30 | vontrapp | well, i'm going home, i'll get back on and we'll frag |
| 23:10.39 | vontrapp | (about 8-10 minutes) |
| 23:17.26 | goozbach | bah! |
| 23:17.32 | goozbach | I'm heading over to the hotel |
| 23:26.54 | vontrapp | back |
| 23:34.42 | vontrapp | server @ gnat.fugal.net |
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| 23:44.48 | goozbach | which port? |
| 23:47.58 | vontrapp | default |
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| 23:48.10 | vontrapp | it's just a default config, too |
| 23:48.19 | vontrapp | if you tell me what options you want i'll set them |
| 23:51.31 | goozbach | hmm |
| 23:51.38 | goozbach | cannot connect |
| 23:52.48 | goozbach | nope |
| 23:52.56 | goozbach | ah well I'm gonna go back to the hotel |
| 23:52.59 | goozbach | I'll try there |