| 00:05.51 | Newsome | is "pancake mountain" a ride a DisneyLand? |
| 00:32.33 | tensai | a ride at IHOP-land maybe? |
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| 06:25.17 | Hhhhh | hello |
| 06:59.13 | xbmodder | hey |
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| 14:23.43 | roscivs | Is there any way to change the double-click speed in Java/Swing? |
| 14:27.18 | roscivs | The only way I've been able to find is the "awt.multiClickInterval" desktop property, but it's not changeable unless you create a Toolkit object specific to your windowing system. |
| 14:32.52 | mheath | Anyone have any suggestions on what I should get with my $90 in birthday money? :) |
| 14:40.24 | mheath | Half-Life 2 sounds awesome, but I'm not sure any of my computers could handle it =\ |
| 14:43.50 | vontrapp | thinkgeek has lots of ideas |
| 14:44.22 | vontrapp | if it were me though, i'd get a nice box set of bicycle tools |
| 14:46.12 | mheath | Uh. |
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| 14:48.31 | mheath | I really wish I had a faster computer |
| 14:48.35 | mheath | then I'd get Half-Life 2 |
| 14:48.50 | mheath | Alas, though, this is a 1GHz Celeron and the fastest thing I own..... |
| 14:48.55 | JoshH | half life 2 is awesome |
| 14:49.45 | JoshH | i almost need to upgrade for battlefield 2, even though i can run half life 2 perfectly |
| 14:49.56 | mheath | Anyone have a motherboard+proc they'll sell me for cheap? |
| 14:50.16 | vontrapp | mheath, what's that celeron you have? |
| 14:50.35 | vontrapp | is it a laptop? |
| 14:50.48 | mheath | No, a desktop >.< |
| 14:51.01 | vontrapp | what kind of vid card? |
| 14:51.11 | mheath | ATI Radeon 9200SE |
| 14:51.31 | vontrapp | is it pretty quiet? |
| 14:52.06 | mheath | Yeah, decently |
| 14:52.49 | mheath | Ah. Can't trade |
| 14:52.57 | vontrapp | :( |
| 14:53.01 | mheath | I'm the only one who uses this computer anymore, but officially it's my dads |
| 14:53.04 | mheath | otehrwise, I'd LOVE to trade. |
| 14:53.14 | JoshH | my computer is way too loud |
| 14:53.41 | mheath | I have a Sun computer I'd be willing to trade for something |
| 14:53.53 | JoshH | mheath: you should just buy a new part or two with each paycheck until you have a whole new system |
| 14:53.59 | JoshH | thats what i always do |
| 14:54.07 | mheath | just got it from someone, but the SCSI cd-rom drive is partially broken, and I don't have the money to replace it.. |
| 14:55.03 | mheath | Hmm |
| 14:55.21 | mheath | What would be the result of trying to run Half-Life 2 on this 1 Ghz Celeron with ATI Radeon 9200SE? |
| 14:55.28 | JoshH | mheath: dont even try it |
| 14:55.51 | mheath | The only other system I have is a little AMD Athlon 750 system |
| 14:55.56 | mheath | er |
| 14:55.57 | JoshH | i have an athlon xp 3200+, a gig of ram, and a 9800 pro, and i can run it perfectly, but it would get choppy sometimes before i upgraded my ram to a gig |
| 14:55.58 | mheath | 750mhz |
| 14:56.10 | JoshH | at 1024x768 with no AA |
| 14:56.21 | mheath | Unless you cound my Pentium1 cluster :D |
| 14:57.17 | mheath | I wish I could just get something around 1.6ghz for cheap... |
| 14:57.44 | mheath | I'd even trade that Sun for something..... |
| 14:58.58 | mheath | vontrapp: how fast is that athlon xp? |
| 14:59.34 | vontrapp | it's over 1GHz but i can't remember by how much |
| 14:59.53 | vontrapp | i'd check but my router quit working this morning |
| 14:59.58 | vontrapp | i blame OCT |
| 15:00.03 | mheath | haha |
| 15:00.28 | vontrapp | i can check at lunch, though |
| 15:00.55 | mheath | vontrapp: wouldn't consider training it for a Sun Ultra 1 Enterprise Server (monitor, keyboard, mouse) and nice laser printer, would you? |
| 15:00.56 | mheath | =\ |
| 15:01.34 | mheath | Would anyone here be willing to trade a motherboard+proc for that stuff? |
| 15:03.19 | JoshH | i would if i had anything to trade |
| 15:03.32 | JoshH | all ive got is my box, my womans box, and one server |
| 15:03.58 | mheath | How about this... |
| 15:04.17 | mheath | can anyone recommend any other games that WOULD run on my 1 Ghz Celeron (512 MB RAM) with ATI Radeon 9200SE? |
| 15:05.02 | JoshH | quake3 |
| 15:05.05 | JoshH | half life 1 |
| 15:05.14 | JoshH | warcraft 3 |
| 15:05.26 | mheath | You can't buy half-life 1 anymore |
| 15:05.29 | mheath | as far as I can tell |
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| 15:06.36 | JoshH | you could always install zsnes and grab a tarball of all 700+ snes games |
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| 15:06.59 | mheath | I'm actually looking at world of warcraft |
| 15:07.02 | mheath | I've heard its good |
| 15:07.06 | goozbach | mheath you can |
| 15:07.11 | JoshH | it likes a pretty nice system though |
| 15:07.30 | mheath | Well, their official recommended system requirements are actually below my systems specs |
| 15:07.43 | goozbach | hl1 is now packagedin the platnim series |
| 15:07.46 | mheath | FYI, I don't care about mad preformance |
| 15:07.51 | mheath | as long as the game is playable, I'm happy |
| 15:08.03 | JoshH | so saving up for a new system isnt an option? |
| 15:08.16 | mheath | JoshH: I'm impatient ;) |
| 15:08.38 | mheath | JoshH: I'm saving for a Mac PowerBook for next summer, anyway |
| 15:08.51 | mheath | (I'm joining the Navy, and want something I can easily take shipboard with me) |
| 15:08.58 | goozbach | it comes with blue shift, opp force, counterstrike and oothers |
| 15:08.58 | JoshH | cool |
| 15:09.20 | JoshH | i wonder if they will still sell a version of their OS for ppc after they switch to intel |
| 15:09.30 | mheath | They better |
| 15:09.40 | mheath | I'm getting a PPC model, I can tell you that much..... |
| 15:11.00 | mheath | I think I'm going to go and look around at some games at the store later |
| 15:11.05 | mheath | As well as some other things at the store |
| 15:11.42 | JoshH | you could probably play call of duty |
| 15:11.45 | JoshH | thats a great game |
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| 15:24.55 | dataw0lf|w | call of duty is awesome. |
| 15:24.58 | dataw0lf|w | and ET too. |
| 15:27.38 | JoshH | ya ET is sweet |
| 15:27.40 | JoshH | especially since its free |
| 15:28.18 | mheath | http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=42202&item=6777761144&rd=1 |
| 15:28.20 | mheath | hahaha |
| 15:28.32 | mheath | If your stupid enough to bid on that, you deserve whatever you get.... |
| 15:34.41 | tapH20guru | lol ... " Printer Port (1) Connect to printers, scanners, MP3 players" |
| 15:34.52 | tapH20guru | " Universal Serial Bus None" |
| 15:35.09 | mheath | tapH20guru: oh, but you'll be the "envy of your office or school"! |
| 15:35.26 | tapH20guru | lol |
| 15:35.45 | tapH20guru | I sure hope that Win98 copy is licensed |
| 15:35.57 | mheath | I love how 1) They show a screenshot of Windows 98 and immediately under say you get the latest software.. |
| 15:36.18 | mheath | and 2) How the picture of Windows 98 is obviously taken off a desktop monitor |
| 15:36.23 | tapH20guru | lol |
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| 15:56.28 | decriptor | does anyone know of a good list of non-friendly thread functions ie strtok |
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| 16:52.16 | Jayce^ | so how went the house hunting? |
| 17:09.55 | hans | when you start an X app over an ssh tunnel, where do the fonts come from? |
| 17:10.00 | hans | local X server, or remote? |
| 17:10.41 | tensai | local I believe, but don't quote me on that |
| 17:12.16 | hans | well here's the situation. trying out nx, and notes (running in wine) works ok on my linux box but not my os x box. I've done fink install msttcorefonts |
| 17:12.36 | hans | (well, notes works, but I can't see the microsoft fonts) |
| 17:12.59 | hans | but if I run it over ssh -X (_very_ slow) I do see the fonts |
| 17:13.36 | hans | I'm trying to figure out if it's NX's problem, or if X11 isn't seeing the fonts that I supposedly installed. |
| 17:14.24 | levi | hans: I think ttf fonts are rendered app-side, while X fonts are server side. There may be cases where it works differently, though. |
| 17:14.53 | hans | it's fairly obvious that nx is trying to get the fonts locally |
| 17:15.05 | hans | it's just a matter of figuring out how to let it find them |
| 17:15.59 | levi | I'm not sure what nx is. |
| 17:16.16 | hans | ~nx |
| 17:17.20 | hans | ~nx is quote the new Terminal Server system for Linux and Unix that is changing the shape of network computing |
| 17:17.21 | ibot | hans: okay |
| 17:17.32 | hans | ~nx is also http://www.nomachine.com |
| 17:17.35 | ibot | okay, hans |
| 17:18.22 | hans | ~nx is also see freenx |
| 17:18.23 | ibot | hans: okay |
| 17:18.26 | levi | hans: You sound like an ad. :) |
| 17:18.35 | hans | ~freenx is http://freenx.berlios.de/ |
| 17:18.36 | ibot | hans: okay |
| 17:18.49 | hans | nx is pretty slick, as in fast |
| 17:19.02 | hans | but has some rough edges as in running wine apps inside it |
| 17:20.04 | hans | ~nx |
| 17:20.06 | ibot | nx is probably quote the new Terminal Server system for Linux and Unix that is changing the shape of network computing, or http://www.nomachine.com , or see freenx |
| 17:20.18 | levi | hans: Did you see this?:http://www.nomachine.com/ar/view.php?ar_id=AR11B00071 |
| 17:23.04 | hans | no, thanks. that almost helps |
| 17:23.30 | hans | too bad it doesn't say what to do in the mac case. (part of the problem is I'm not sure how apple's X11 handles fonts, and I'm no X font guru) |
| 17:24.05 | hans | e.g. /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 is not used, so setting the fontpath there is no help |
| 17:24.11 | levi | Hmm. |
| 17:24.22 | vontrapp | xset +fp |
| 17:24.49 | hans | fugalh@gandalf:~$ /sw/bin/xfontpath dump |
| 17:24.49 | hans | /sw/lib/X11/fonts/msttf/ |
| 17:24.49 | hans | /sw/lib/X11/fonts/applettf/ |
| 17:24.54 | vontrapp | http://von.fugal.net/blog/2005/04/05#fonts |
| 17:24.54 | levi | http://forums.macosxhints.com/archive/index.php/t-8648.html |
| 17:24.55 | scott | a lot of times when I change songs or skip forward (also in movies) in totem and other players I hear a loud screech. anyone else get that or know how to get rid of it? |
| 17:25.53 | vontrapp | i do occasianally get a bit of a screech, at least it would be a screech if it were longer, but it's only a fraction of a second |
| 17:26.39 | vontrapp | don't know what to do about it, and haven't looked because a fraction of a second doesn't bother me to much, and it's infrequent |
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| 17:42.59 | vontrapp | what method do firefox plugins use for sound? alsa or oss? |
| 17:43.40 | hans | levi, vontrapp: all very interesting but still no banana |
| 17:43.49 | levi | Hrm. |
| 17:44.47 | levi | How about this? http://homepage.mac.com/sao1/fink/faqs.html |
| 17:51.17 | scott | vontrapp: mine's also a fraction of a second, but it's annoying. |
| 17:51.36 | levi | Interesting discussion around a blog post of a guy who's going to use HtDP to teach an intro to programming class: http://keepworkingworkerbee.blogspot.com/2005/06/hard-to-believe-its-friday.html |
| 18:01.00 | hans | ok, progress. I've got the fonts to show up in xfontsel |
| 18:02.37 | hans | but still no love from nx |
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| 18:53.35 | beandog | Does anyone ever play nwn? |
| 18:56.30 | Jayce^ | haven't for a long time |
| 18:58.42 | dataw0lf|w | I lament the day I removed it from my computer. |
| 19:00.04 | beandog | heh |
| 19:00.08 | beandog | Im on an addicted kick again |
| 19:00.25 | Jayce^ | I got hooked on wow instead |
| 19:00.42 | beandog | I would try wow, but Im all about not paying monthly fees |
| 19:01.04 | Jayce^ | yeah, I was that way for a long time, then I tried it and got hooked |
| 19:01.12 | beandog | Ive heard its worth it though |
| 19:03.53 | dataw0lf|w | it's all about Guild Wars |
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| 19:09.55 | levi | beandog: I just installed nwn on my laptop this weekend. |
| 19:10.27 | levi | beandog: Still just playing the single player campaign, though. |
| 19:10.50 | dataw0lf|w | where you at, levi? |
| 19:11.12 | levi | Beginning of chapter 2. |
| 19:11.25 | tensai | I liked nwn but found I couldn't play enough to keep all the details fresh in my head |
| 19:11.26 | levi | I played it non-stop until I got there, and then I suddenly stopped entirely. |
| 19:11.56 | levi | I figured it'd be a good place to stop for that reason. :) |
| 19:12.19 | goozbach | Jayce^: still on for this weekend? |
| 19:14.57 | beandog | levi: I know a great online server to play if youre interested |
| 19:15.29 | Jayce^ | goozbach, oh yeah |
| 19:16.33 | beandog | Halls of the Underdark is the best module ever |
| 19:16.40 | beandog | you get to go to Hell. |
| 19:16.41 | beandog | Its great. |
| 19:16.48 | levi | beandog: I don't have any of the expansions. |
| 19:16.59 | beandog | heathen! |
| 19:17.02 | beandog | :) |