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| 02:11.08 | luminerd | Ok, here's the deal...I've been messing with my WACOM tablet now for about 3 weeks. I have yet to get it to work. I run slackware 10.1 but seek help from other channels, because the process should be similar. If anyone here is willing to spend some time helping me get this working, I would HIGHLY appreciate it. I am having troubles every 5 seconds it seems! Firstly I can't even get it to compile against my kernel. Help would be g |
| 02:11.08 | luminerd | reatly appreciated. |
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| 03:30.21 | indessed | So, when trying to ssh into my server, it takes forever to connect. If I ssh with -vv, the hang happens between these lines: |
| 03:30.21 | indessed | debug1: identity file /home/ross/.ssh/identity type -1 |
| 03:30.21 | indessed | debug1: identity file /home/ross/.ssh/id_rsa type -1 |
| 03:30.21 | indessed | debug1: identity file /home/ross/.ssh/id_dsa type -1 |
| 03:30.21 | indessed | and these: |
| 03:30.23 | indessed | debug1: Remote protocol version 2.0, remote software version OpenSSH_3.6.1p2 |
| 03:30.25 | indessed | debug1: match: OpenSSH_3.6.1p2 pat OpenSSH* |
| 03:30.27 | indessed | debug1: Enabling compatibility mode for protocol 2.0 |
| 03:30.29 | indessed | debug1: Local version string SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_3.9p1 |
| 03:30.31 | indessed | Anybody seen this before? |
| 03:34.17 | hans | I've seen hangs caused by dns issues - e.g. reverse dns or something. try moving (or deleting) .ssh/known_hosts and see if that speeds it up. |
| 03:34.58 | indessed | hans: Nope, still hangs in the same spot. |
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| 04:30.22 | tensai_ | indessed: can you resolve your client ip address on the server? sshd will hang there doing a reverse lookup. |
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| 05:01.18 | indessed | What, does Eterm support screen in some different way from other terminals? |
| 05:01.42 | brailsmt | indessed: beats me, it does more than just allow screen to run in it |
| 05:02.01 | indessed | brailsmt: what exactly does it do more than that? |
| 05:02.09 | brailsmt | i am not familiar with other terminals |
| 05:02.23 | brailsmt | indessed: try Eterm -t Escreen |
| 05:02.42 | brailsmt | ^-- if you have escreen support compiled into your version of Eterm |
| 05:02.46 | indessed | tensai_: yeah, it reverse lookups just fine |
| 05:03.08 | tensai_ | indessed: hmm. that's my only thought |
| 05:03.18 | indessed | brailsmt: hmmm. interesting ... |
| 05:03.26 | indessed | brailsmt: it came up ... but what does it all mean?? |
| 05:03.42 | indessed | tensai_: that was my only thought too, but I'm not sure how to test it to see if that's it. |
| 05:04.03 | brailsmt | indessed: type alt-t |
| 05:04.14 | indessed | brailsmt: nothing |
| 05:04.41 | brailsmt | alt-r then maybe... |
| 05:04.49 | indessed | oooh ... I can create multiple "tabs" using the "Escreen" menu ... |
| 05:04.56 | brailsmt | it should pop up a little window asking for the name of a new window |
| 05:05.04 | indessed | yup, that worked |
| 05:05.16 | indessed | didn't change anything though, at least not visibly |
| 05:05.16 | brailsmt | and there should a "button bar" at the buttom listing the screen windows |
| 05:05.27 | indessed | yeah, the two windows say "bash" |
| 05:05.53 | indessed | Hm. I did the "split" thing ... what does that do? |
| 05:05.55 | brailsmt | alt-Left to switch them |
| 05:06.04 | indessed | niice |
| 05:06.06 | brailsmt | and alt-Right |
| 05:06.13 | indessed | i like, i like! |
| 05:06.16 | brailsmt | alt-b to go to scrollback buffer |
| 05:06.41 | brailsmt | alt-b is faster than c-a <esc> |
| 05:06.53 | indessed | that doesn't seem to be working, but I can scroll back using the scrollbar |
| 05:07.03 | brailsmt | i just discoverd it today so I am still figuring it out... |
| 05:07.09 | indessed | cool. very cool. |
| 05:07.44 | brailsmt | if you search for the Escreen theme you can see what keys are bound... |
| 05:07.55 | brailsmt | alt-[0-9] for windows 0-9 |
| 05:08.21 | brailsmt | i mapped the screen menu to cntrl-button3 |
| 05:08.22 | indessed | cool, I just closed the Eterm window and voila, when I opened it again my session came back. |
| 05:08.28 | indessed | (just like normal screen.) |
| 05:09.31 | indessed | Man, I really want to know what this "split" thing is. |
| 05:09.35 | brailsmt | indessed: you will want to put "url: screen:///-R" in your Eterm theme or user file |
| 05:09.54 | indessed | what will that do? will that open this up with every Eterm? |
| 05:09.54 | brailsmt | indessed: try c-a :split |
| 05:10.20 | indessed | right, but what does it do? |
| 05:10.26 | indessed | I can do the same thing via the Escreen menu |
| 05:10.31 | brailsmt | indessed: the default URL for Eterm is "screen://<current_user>@localhost:22/-RDD" |
| 05:10.37 | indessed | it splits my window in two, but what does it do? |
| 05:11.10 | brailsmt | c-a c-i to switch splits and then c-a n to switch them... |
| 05:12.32 | brailsmt | you can have two terminals open at the same time |
| 05:12.45 | brailsmt | on the same window |
| 05:12.45 | brailsmt | and see both |
| 05:12.51 | indessed | weird |
| 05:13.05 | brailsmt | indessed: you use vim? |
| 05:13.09 | indessed | of course :-) |
| 05:13.15 | brailsmt | its a lot like :sp |
| 05:13.49 | indessed | While editing two files at once is useful, I'm not sure how seeing the same bash prompt twice would be useful. |
| 05:14.01 | indessed | Maybe it's more useful in conjunction with other programs. |
| 05:14.40 | brailsmt | indessed: the idea is you have two different bash prompts open, one in one window, another in the other window... |
| 05:15.05 | brailsmt | i use it all the time to tail the output of my programs while running the program in the other window |
| 05:16.20 | brailsmt | oh, and with Escreen you can do 'Eterm -U screen://username@remote_computer:22/-R' to connect to screen thtough ssh on the remote computer |
| 05:19.12 | brailsmt | i actually use screen quite extensively at work and connecting to my screen session with Eterm like above is very, very nice |
| 05:19.28 | indessed | now /that/ would be useful. |
| 05:19.37 | indessed | i typically only use screen on remote sessions |
| 05:19.43 | brailsmt | i now have menu items to open remote screen sessions on the machine I work on frequently |
| 05:19.57 | brailsmt | s/machine/machines |
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| 06:29.29 | xbmodder | hey all |
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| 06:30.37 | Hhhhh | hi xbmodder |
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| 06:37.10 | xbmodder | I want to run a command like this on about 10 files:mencoder $in -o ../out/$in -oac copy -ovc lavc -lavcopts vcodec=mpeg4 |
| 06:37.19 | xbmodder | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:41.59 | Hhhhh | sorry, i'm not much of a CLI guru |
| 06:42.07 | brailsmt | for f in file1 file2 file3...file10; do mencode $f -o ../out/$f ...; done |
| 06:42.57 | brailsmt | guis are too often a crutch... |
| 06:43.46 | Hhhhh | but I like "gooeys" |
| 06:44.06 | Hhhhh | I should learn more CLI stuff though, it can be faster for a lot of stuff |
| 06:55.58 | xbmodder | thanks |
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| 07:39.55 | Hhhhh | hehehe, just got Unreal Tournament 2004 to work in Fedora Core 4 64-bit |
| 08:42.54 | Hhhhh | yea, I got Doom 3 to work in Fedora Core 4 64-bit now :) |
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| 11:01.18 | hans | have I mentioned that I hate notes? |
| 12:35.46 | erikrj | have I mentioned that I hate notes too? |
| 13:42.06 | hans | oh my. JS/UIX |
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| 15:46.19 | hans | ~lart vontrapp |
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| 16:13.25 | neybar | are there any iptables gurus around? I need help with a few rules. my internal network is 192.168.1.0. I am doing port forwarding from my router to an internal server for 80/25/110. Externally things work great and I can serve web pages etc. On the lan when I go to www.mysite.com I just end up at the router which isn't hosting anything and things break. If I explicitly use the servers ip address then it obviously works. |
| 16:14.05 | mrpull | cheat. put www.mysite.com in your hosts file :) |
| 16:14.08 | neybar | I've tried a few rules on the firewall to route traffic heading for port 80 from the internal network, but It isn't working |
| 16:14.20 | neybar | I could, but that means I have to visit 10 computers |
| 16:15.03 | levi | Grr, my dns appears to be down. |
| 16:15.10 | levi | Can anyone resolve lifeoflevi.com ? |
| 16:15.22 | vontrapp | neybar, when you use the internal ip it works or whon you use the external? |
| 16:15.48 | mrpull | http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/lookup.ch?name=lifeoflevi.com&type=A |
| 16:15.50 | mrpull | works for me |
| 16:15.56 | vontrapp | levi: resolved for me |
| 16:16.02 | Jayce^ | ditto levi |
| 16:16.13 | levi | Weird. Can't resolve it from work. :/ |
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| 16:21.56 | hans | ~nslookup lifeoflevi.com |
| 16:22.28 | levi | Grr. Stupid dns server at work is apparently worthless. |
| 16:22.59 | hans | so change your dns settings |
| 16:26.06 | neybar | when I use the internal ip |
| 16:26.15 | levi | Hmm, apparently it's ns1.xmission.com that I'm using for dns. |
| 16:27.03 | mrpull | xmission:~ $ dig @ns1.xmission.com lifeoflevi.com |
| 16:27.03 | mrpull | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:27.03 | mrpull | ; <<>> DiG 9.2.4 <<>> @ns1.xmission.com lifeoflevi.com |
| 16:27.03 | mrpull | ;; global options: printcmd |
| 16:27.03 | mrpull | ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached |
| 16:27.09 | mrpull | maybe you can read that |
| 16:27.21 | mrpull | that is from my shell account at xmission |
| 16:28.19 | hans | apparently ns1.xmission.com is down |
| 16:28.37 | hans | ns2 works. |
| 16:29.14 | mrpull | ns.xmission.com seems to be ok as well |
| 16:29.35 | mrpull | drop into #xmlounge on irc.xmission.com and complain |
| 16:30.20 | hans | I'm already there, I just gave the word. |
| 16:30.27 | mrpull | nicely done |
| 16:31.48 | vontrapp | neybar, add a route for anything to those machines public ip addresses for the internal network |
| 16:32.30 | hans | i'm feeling adventurous today. maybe I'll set up smtp auth |
| 16:33.19 | mrpull | what MTA? |
| 16:33.34 | hans | postfix |
| 16:33.55 | mrpull | it's somewhat of a pain, but you shouldn't have any problems |
| 16:34.01 | hans | but I just realized, I'd probably have to set up LDAP for authentication because everyone's accounts are on a different box. maybe I'm not that adventurous |
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| 16:36.51 | vontrapp | neybar: what exactly is it you do with outgoing port 80? |
| 16:41.35 | hans | why would pine use the fqdn when exim is configured to qualify with just the domain name? |
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| 16:42.21 | neybar | maining laptop users have hmortgage.com in their smtp/pop settings. when they leave the office they can get the mail, internally they can't cause hmortgage.com is on a private lan ip, but it is resolving to the router address internally |
| 16:43.12 | neybar | I found another work-around though. I changed the dns server internally to make the domain point to the internal ip address. |
| 16:49.18 | vontrapp | wildcard? |
| 16:49.24 | neybar | have you ever stopped to think about the command "man kill" |
| 16:49.50 | vontrapp | or killall man |
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| 16:56.49 | neybar | hans: good luck, setting up smtp auth in postfix is what made me convert to exim. I hear it is easier to do now though. |
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| 17:03.12 | hans | http://www.connect-utah.com/article.asp?r=1060&iid=34&sid=3 <- joshc |
| 17:04.47 | hans | So get this, my package arrived fedex ramp slc at 5:33, arrived in orem at 7:33, left for delivery from orem at 7:35, and left fedex ramp at slc at 7:37 |
| 17:09.17 | mrpull | anyone looking to sell a GSP Treo 650? |
| 17:10.10 | greygnome|w | No way. I love mine. |
| 17:10.35 | goozbach | GSP? |
| 17:10.43 | goozbach | GPRS? |
| 17:10.57 | mrpull | GSM |
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| 17:15.18 | mheath | Anyone know a place in Ogden, Salt Lake, or in between thats looking for employees and will hire a 16 year old? |
| 17:15.29 | Hhhhh | McDs? |
| 17:15.32 | Hhhhh | j/k |
| 17:15.38 | dataw0lf|w | Hhhhh: don't be so mean. |
| 17:15.40 | dataw0lf|w | BK |
| 17:15.46 | Hhhhh | sorry |
| 17:15.54 | mheath | I just got done calling every help wanted ad number |
| 17:16.01 | mheath | Only ONE will hire 16 year olds |
| 17:16.12 | greygnome|w | mrpull, Sorry I think it is a GSM. I just saw sell Treo 650 and went into panic mode. |
| 17:16.25 | Hhhhh | mheath: where? |
| 17:16.25 | mheath | and its some bizarre talent agency looking for an assistant to one of their staff members |
| 17:16.28 | bonez39 | mheath, I see lots of mexicans working at places, no gringos would ever even apply..... |
| 17:16.31 | Hhhhh | oh |
| 17:16.35 | bonez39 | 16? what age do they want? |
| 17:16.40 | mheath | bonez39: most want 18 |
| 17:16.46 | mheath | I was even calling up construction ad places |
| 17:16.49 | Hhhhh | discrimination! |
| 17:16.56 | Hhhhh | that makes no sense |
| 17:16.58 | mheath | they want you to be 18 even to be a roofing laborer. Its silly. |
| 17:17.04 | Hhhhh | that's stupid |
| 17:17.28 | Hhhhh | i mean, it's like part of the job is watching porn or something |
| 17:17.36 | Hhhhh | they need 18 yrs old :p |
| 17:17.42 | bonez39 | Hhhhh, would you hire the average 16 year old? the ones I see act like the world owes them a living.......if I were counting the risk versus benefit, I'd want older too... |
| 17:18.00 | bonez39 | they want someone who has a bit more responsibility....would be my guess.. |
| 17:18.02 | mheath | bonez39: the ones who act like the world owes them a living wouldn't be trying to get a job as a roofing laborer. |
| 17:18.12 | tensai | you have to be 18 to operate lots of machinery due to OSHA requirements |
| 17:18.16 | bonez39 | mheath, point well taken...you have a point there... |
| 17:18.18 | Hhhhh | well, I don't see why to bar them from applying, I was a very capable 16 yrs old |
| 17:18.23 | Hhhhh | i would interview them |
| 17:18.38 | bonez39 | Hhhhh, I think we all are and were capable at 16... |
| 17:18.42 | dataw0lf|w | yeah, so would I. |
| 17:18.52 | mheath | "Solei Model & Talent Management". Anyone heard of them? Thats the place thats hiring for an assistant to one of their staff members.. |
| 17:18.58 | Hhhhh | unless it's a position that requires years of experience, but again, that goes for adults too |
| 17:19.15 | mheath | I have more experience at 16 than anyone else I know of |
| 17:19.25 | dataw0lf|w | mheath: got a portfolio? |
| 17:19.32 | mheath | half a year experience working in a computer sales and repair store, several months of experience working in sales |
| 17:19.42 | Hhhhh | cool |
| 17:19.44 | mheath | dataw0lf|w: heh, no |
| 17:20.01 | Hhhhh | portfolio? that's if you do something with art or somethingt |
| 17:20.02 | dataw0lf|w | *shrug* that's how I started getting jobs, I'd suggest putting one together. |
| 17:20.15 | Hhhhh | or some graphical/visual thing |
| 17:20.26 | mheath | I have an impressive (for a 16 year old...) resume |
| 17:20.34 | mheath | but then again none of the places that hire 16 year olds care about resumes |
| 17:20.41 | mheath | They just want you to fill out their application |
| 17:20.54 | dataw0lf|w | Hhhhh: I have a code portfolio. |
| 17:21.06 | Hhhhh | code portfolio?? |
| 17:21.17 | Hhhhh | you show them code? |
| 17:21.30 | dataw0lf|w | you've never heard of this? |
| 17:21.46 | mheath | Should I go down for that interview, then? For that assistant position at that talent agency? |
| 17:21.47 | Hhhhh | "look at my comments" kind of thing? no, never heard of it |
| 17:22.02 | mheath | It's in Salt Lake City. Not sure I'd want to commute. |
| 17:22.23 | Hhhhh | most places look at the resume and then they ask you questions to see if you're qualified, never heard of a code portfolio |
| 17:22.30 | Hhhhh | unless you're doing rendering or something |
| 17:22.41 | dataw0lf|w | Hhhhh: huh. I have a portfolio at all times ready for any contractors that might ask to see sample code. |
| 17:22.53 | Hhhhh | nobody has ever asked me for sample code |
| 17:23.02 | Hhhhh | and i've been to places |
| 17:23.10 | dataw0lf|w | I'd say about 60% will ask in fact. |
| 17:23.18 | dataw0lf|w | wow, I've been to places too. |
| 17:23.26 | dataw0lf|w | I think everyone has been to places before. |
| 17:23.34 | dataw0lf|w | Unless someone here is the boy in the bubble. |
| 17:23.49 | Hhhhh | heh |
| 17:23.53 | mheath | dataw0lf|w, Hhhhh, either of you know *anyone* who's hiring? |
| 17:24.01 | Hhhhh | i don't, i'm sorry |
| 17:24.08 | greygnome|w | dataw0lf|w, You will always be the boy in the bubble :P |
| 17:24.08 | dataw0lf|w | mheath: I might be in a couple months, but I doubt if you're qualified. |
| 17:24.10 | Hhhhh | mheath: do you know web programming? |
| 17:24.51 | mheath | Hhhhh: "web programming"? I assume you mean things like php, java, perl, etc? |
| 17:25.02 | hans | i got a portfolio from a guy for the position I was interviewing for a bit back (sysadmin) |
| 17:25.12 | Hhhhh | yea, but more like ASP.NET and JSP |
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| 17:25.31 | levi-treo | Gah, boring meeting. |
| 17:25.33 | hans | things like pictures of server rooms, network topology diagrams, etc. I thought it was great - it really gave me a better idea faster of what he was capable of |
| 17:25.47 | dataw0lf|w | hans: I agree, I have similar things in my portfolio as well. |
| 17:25.49 | hans | than his resume (which was sparse and lame), or even other people's resumes |
| 17:25.55 | mheath | Hhhhh: no to ASP.NET, I've worked with JSP some. |
| 17:26.08 | Hhhhh | mheath: if you know those, there are positions available that you might qualify for |
| 17:26.35 | mheath | I am rather familiar with Java and PHP though |
| 17:27.02 | mheath | Server administration.. |
| 17:27.12 | dataw0lf|w | Almost every security contract I've fulfilled the employer has asked for a portfolio *shrug* |
| 17:27.16 | Hhhhh | hah! at last they put my cryptanalyst position open at accessdata |
| 17:27.31 | Hhhhh | guys, AccessData in Lindon is hiring a bunch of people |
| 17:27.46 | Hhhhh | I worked there, it's the BEST company ever |
| 17:28.03 | Hhhhh | http://www.cs.byu.edu/employment/index.php?section=job_board |
| 17:28.25 | mheath | I also need something that will let me work P/T between late august and mid february |
| 17:28.45 | bonez39 | hans, is your sidekick J. Frederick running you ragged yet? |
| 17:28.48 | mheath | I've got highschool. I'm graduating halfway through the year, though |
| 17:29.35 | Hhhhh | hah, man, I LOVE Fedora Core 4 |
| 17:29.37 | mheath | I wish I could find a job..... |
| 17:30.14 | Hhhhh | I got Unreal Tournament 2004, Doom 3, Wolfenstein Enemy Territory and America's Army working in FC4 64-bit |
| 17:30.27 | mheath | Nice. |
| 17:30.29 | Hhhhh | who says Linux is not a gaming platform? :) |
| 17:30.42 | mrpull | Hhhhhhhhhh: are there any performance benefits? |
| 17:31.02 | Hhhhh | from the 64-bit? I don't know, maybe 1-2 FPS |
| 17:31.10 | mrpull | just curious |
| 17:31.15 | decriptor | I saw a benchmark that showed that some games ran better in linux using the nvidia drivers in windows |
| 17:31.25 | Hhhhh | decriptor: I have experienced that |
| 17:31.29 | decriptor | than in windows |
| 17:31.30 | decriptor | sorry |
| 17:31.45 | Hhhhh | decriptor: ut2004 does that |
| 17:31.46 | mheath | If anyone knows of any job openings in the future, let me know..... |
| 17:31.46 | decriptor | I've seen them in the nvidia linux drivers forum |
| 17:31.54 | decriptor | I think that was one of the major ones |
| 17:31.57 | Hhhhh | mheath: will do, good luck |
| 17:32.07 | decriptor | I think the windows side was even overclocked a little |
| 17:32.15 | Hhhhh | hmm, the one things that isn't working very well is sound |
| 17:32.28 | decriptor | linux wasn't |
| 17:32.28 | decriptor | linux is great |
| 17:32.29 | Hhhhh | in ut2004 and America's Army it works perfect |
| 17:32.51 | Hhhhh | but in Doom 3 sound is all garbled |
| 17:32.55 | decriptor | has anyone try the nvidia chipset drivers |
| 17:32.57 | decriptor | nforce |
| 17:33.37 | Hhhhh | decriptor: I have, with no luck, but that's because I have a chipset that is still not supported in Linux (nForce 4 SLI) |
| 17:33.45 | decriptor | oh ok |
| 17:34.00 | Hhhhh | nForce 2 or 3 should work fine |
| 17:34.03 | decriptor | I was wondering if the chipset was to the same point as the video |
| 17:34.11 | Hhhhh | no, they're behind |
| 17:34.14 | decriptor | fine and great are different though :) |
| 17:34.27 | Hhhhh | video drivers are great :) |
| 17:34.30 | bonez39 | Hhhhh, do you run those games using WINE? |
| 17:34.33 | Hhhhh | i'm really impressed |
| 17:34.36 | Hhhhh | no, no wine |
| 17:34.39 | Hhhhh | native |
| 17:35.10 | vontrapp | it's great to finally see some companys developing for linux |
| 17:35.13 | Hhhhh | all those games are either OpenGL or have an OpenGL option, and the companies that made them took the effort to port them to Linux |
| 17:35.28 | Hhhhh | still, there aren't that many companies that do that |
| 17:35.35 | Hhhhh | I still do most of my ganing in Linux |
| 17:35.43 | Hhhhh | i mean, in Windows |
| 17:36.16 | vontrapp | right, and you also have the classics, like starcraft |
| 17:36.33 | Hhhhh | hmm, that remainds me, I should install planeshift |
| 17:36.46 | vontrapp | but scorched3d runs in linux, what more do you need? |
| 17:36.46 | Hhhhh | and zsnes |
| 17:36.53 | vontrapp | what is planeshift? |
| 17:36.58 | Hhhhh | a MMORPG |
| 17:37.01 | Hhhhh | open source |
| 17:37.16 | Hhhhh | still not finished, but the alpha is up and running |
| 17:37.58 | levi-treo | Free to play? |
| 17:38.16 | dataw0lf|w | yeah. |
| 17:38.38 | dataw0lf|w | why do you need all those others if yah got bzflag and ET ? |
| 17:38.54 | levi-treo | Related to worldforge? |
| 17:39.07 | vontrapp | ET? |
| 17:40.06 | Jayce^ | enemy-territory |
| 17:40.39 | Hhhhh | datawolf: i just installed et |
| 17:40.57 | Hhhhh | anyways, I like pretty graphics, and bzflag is nice but you can't compare to doom3 |
| 17:42.06 | Hhhhh | hehe, i'm installing the x86_64 version of bzflag 2.0.2 |
| 17:44.25 | Hhhhh | and now the x86_64 version of scorched 3d |
| 17:44.27 | mrpull | ET for the Atari 2600 is the game to beat |
| 17:44.39 | Hhhhh | any other good games for linux? |
| 17:44.49 | Hhhhh | hmm, tuxracer |
| 17:44.50 | dataw0lf|w | Battle for Wesnoth |
| 17:44.57 | dataw0lf|w | s/for/of ? |
| 17:44.58 | dataw0lf|w | unsure |
| 17:53.41 | vontrapp | done installing (i love apt :) |
| 17:53.41 | hans | Hhhhh: frozen bubble, ltris |
| 17:53.42 | hans | zork |
| 17:53.51 | mrpull | ~lart Rich Kuchinsky |
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| 17:54.21 | mrpull | http://kslradio.com/index.php?sid=212610&nid=19 |
| 17:55.11 | vontrapp | wow, wesnoth looks really good |
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| 19:04.39 | vontrapp | what about hatch? |
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| 19:44.42 | Jayce^ | http://www.heraldextra.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=57467&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0 |
| 19:47.43 | mrpull | here comes another silly question... can anyone suggest where I can find some boilerplate "terms of service" for a public wifi hotspot? |
| 19:56.00 | RyanE | go to a public wifi hotspot, click 'Terms of Service' |
| 19:56.26 | mrpull | i was hoping to find some that were freely available |
| 19:56.29 | levi | Sweet, grossology. :) |
| 19:56.38 | mrpull | it's easy to steal them... |
| 19:56.43 | Jayce^ | and it's just down the road from me |
| 19:57.17 | vontrapp | ~lart finger memory |
| 19:59.35 | vontrapp | ran shred on hdA instead of hdB |
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| 20:12.49 | mrpull | http://wiki.freenetworks.org/index.cgi/AupTos?action=highlight&value=CategoryLegal looks like a good start for an AUP |
| 20:13.23 | mrpull | they appear to be encouraging others to modify and use this doc... right? |
| 20:15.38 | vontrapp | that's a cool looking bird |
| 20:15.56 | vontrapp | crest on it's head, pointed spot around it's eye, and a yellow fringe on it's tail |
| 20:18.06 | vontrapp | who double clicks a button? |
| 20:18.31 | Jayce^ | a lot of strange people on the internet |
| 20:18.45 | Jayce^ | important forms need to keep that from causing problems :) |
| 20:18.46 | vontrapp | "If you agree [blah blah blah] double click the "Accept" button below" |
| 20:19.39 | vontrapp | ok then, who TELLS people to double click a button? |
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| 20:28.22 | mrpull | yikes. i'd better fix the double click part |
| 20:29.16 | vontrapp | ;) |
| 20:32.10 | TimRiker | http://rikers.org/nocat/splash.html <- my simple one. not active here obviously. |
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| 20:34.52 | mrpull | TimRiker: May I modify your TOS and use it for my AP? |
| 20:34.58 | Jayce^ | TimRiker, you just have that for getting through your house? |
| 20:35.02 | vontrapp | what are the geometry files in xkb used for? |
| 20:36.09 | TimRiker | mrpull: hack on. |
| 20:36.17 | mrpull | thank you! |
| 20:36.26 | Newsome | "By using this service you agree that all your worldly possessions become the property of Rikers.org if any of said possessions are requested." |
| 20:36.34 | TimRiker | Jayce^: that's what the neighbors see if they use my wireless. |
| 20:36.47 | TimRiker | Newsome: =) |
| 20:36.50 | Jayce^ | TimRiker, cool, was thinking of setting something like that up on my new box |
| 20:37.07 | TimRiker | apt-get install nocatsplash ;-) |
| 20:37.16 | Jayce^ | most I'd like to allow, and just have it autoallow them or something, but add the rules automatically |
| 20:37.24 | Jayce^ | so I can mac filter, but not need to add them myself |
| 20:37.36 | Jayce^ | setting up a wrt next week |
| 20:37.38 | TimRiker | that's more or less what I hacked it to do. |
| 20:37.54 | Jayce^ | might need to borrow some scripts from you then (why reinvent the wheel) |
| 20:39.23 | TimRiker | sure. checkout nocatsplash for starters. |
| 20:40.28 | Jayce^ | oooh, they already have a wrt54 package :) |
| 20:42.58 | TimRiker | Newsome: that's just there to see if anyone reads it. I thought about "your first born child" but they how many kids do I want around the house anyway? |
| 20:42.59 | bucky | i set up nocatauth with poptop and mppe to work around using wep |
| 20:43.12 | TimRiker | Jayce^: =) |
| 20:43.51 | Jayce^ | since I'm not owrking at home anymore, I finally ditched the heavy gateway/firewall/etc box, and replaced it with a lower power appliance.. |
| 20:43.59 | Jayce^ | will be nice on the old electricity bill :) |
| 20:43.59 | Newsome | :) |
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| 23:48.24 | hans | neon lights |
| 23:48.27 | hans | shimmering neon lights |