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| 00:38.38 | usynic | any mod_perl2 gurus in? |
| 00:39.18 | tene | s/guru/new user/ |
| 00:39.19 | tene | Yep. |
| 00:39.45 | usynic | ok... so for some reason the default cwd is / for some reason. |
| 00:39.53 | usynic | I don't know why |
| 00:40.07 | usynic | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:40.07 | usynic | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:40.07 | usynic | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:40.07 | usynic | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:40.07 | usynic | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:40.08 | usynic | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:40.20 | usynic | does that look about right? |
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| 00:52.25 | usynic | tensai: any good with mod_perl2 ? |
| 00:58.41 | tene | are you sure that it's a mod_perl issue and not an apache issue? |
| 00:59.12 | usynic | I have no idea. |
| 00:59.24 | usynic | well, if I just use plain cgi, it works fine. |
| 00:59.33 | tene | Hmm. |
| 01:04.30 | tensai | usynic: never even tried |
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| 01:26.35 | Tavis | anyone familiar with C# ? |
| 01:29.29 | tene | I know what it is, and can recognize C# code |
| 01:29.32 | tene | but that's about it |
| 01:30.34 | Tavis | i am wondering the C# counterpart to Java's -classpath |
| 01:31.14 | Tavis | for compiling i can use -lib:some/nice/path |
| 01:31.42 | Tavis | but i don't know how to specify the path of the assemblies at execution |
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| 01:54.29 | mheath | lars-ut: you around? |
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| 01:56.50 | mheath | He probably left already... >.> |
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| 01:59.41 | tensai | ~tickle levi-laptop |
| 01:59.55 | levi-laptop | Had to upgrade my irc client. |
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| 02:00.24 | levi-laptop | Now I have Java homework to do. Joy. |
| 02:02.30 | tensai | Colloquy, huh? never heard of it but looks nice enough. why did you need the upgrade? |
| 02:03.08 | levi-laptop | It gave me a changelog when I started up and the author recommended the upgrade for everyone, so I did. |
| 02:19.26 | Tavis | good choice |
| 02:23.14 | levi-laptop | This is amusing, even though I've no idea what a gridbag is: http://madbean.com/anim/totallygridbag |
| 02:24.14 | levi-laptop | Normally I use vim or emacs, but I understand eclipse has some nice refactoring tools and stuff to combat Java's extreme verbosity. |
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| 03:14.24 | mheath | Yeah, Eclipse is nice. |
| 03:14.28 | mheath | I use it for my java programming |
| 03:14.52 | mheath | A bit slow though |
| 03:14.59 | mheath | and not very useable on older/slow systems |
| 03:25.29 | levi-laptop | Seems usable on my iBook. I like it for Java so far. |
| 03:25.37 | levi-laptop | I didn't like it for C, though. |
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| 03:36.15 | lars-ut | mheath: sup? |
| 03:45.36 | tene | ~lart terminal |
| 03:49.51 | tene | ~fire |
| 03:49.52 | ibot | must .. burn .. stuff.. |
| 03:49.56 | tene | ~ring |
| 03:50.01 | lars-ut | lol |
| 03:50.05 | tene | ~burn |
| 03:50.52 | lars-ut | ~burn is <reply> "And it burns burns burns... the ring of fire..." |
| 03:50.53 | ibot | ibot pours gasoline all over is <reply> "And it burns burns burns... the ring of fire...", ignites the fire, and then enjoys some toasty marshmallows with the glorious blaze |
| 03:51.15 | lars-ut | ~burn Johnny Cash |
| 03:51.16 | ibot | ibot pours gasoline all over Johnny Cash, ignites the fire, and then enjoys some toasty marshmallows with the glorious blaze |
| 03:51.29 | mheath | lars-ut: look at PM... |
| 03:51.39 | tene | ibot: no, burn is <reply> "And it burns burns burns... the ring of fire..." |
| 03:51.40 | ibot | tene: okay |
| 03:51.45 | tene | ~burn |
| 03:51.46 | ibot | "And it burns burns burns... the ring of fire..." |
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| 03:52.30 | levi-laptop | Hi, Maquis. |
| 03:52.40 | Maquis | hi levi-laptop |
| 03:52.42 | tene | ~maquis |
| 03:52.43 | ibot | i don't give information like that to filthy cardassian spies |
| 03:52.49 | levi-laptop | How's it going? |
| 03:52.51 | tene | Ack, how did she find out?! |
| 03:53.01 | Maquis | http://electronics.howstuffworks.com/lightsaber.htm |
| 03:53.07 | Maquis | levi-laptop: busy... |
| 03:53.23 | levi-laptop | I made a blog entry about that. Obviously you don't read my blog. ;) |
| 03:53.37 | Maquis | wake up, get on bus, get off bus, work, get on bus, get off bus, eat, shower, go to bed |
| 03:53.43 | levi-laptop | Not that anyone would if it weren't for rss aggregators. :) |
| 03:53.53 | levi-laptop | Maquis: How's work going? |
| 03:54.17 | Maquis | levi-laptop: ok... finally made it through the sde training videos this morning |
| 03:54.28 | levi-laptop | SDE? |
| 03:54.37 | Maquis | software dev. eng. |
| 03:54.49 | levi-laptop | Ahh, cool. |
| 03:55.03 | Maquis | they have something on the order of 14 hours of videos that all the new hires in software dev are required to watch |
| 03:55.38 | Maquis | i kept getting distracted, and working on the linux box while it was going on the win laptop... |
| 03:55.42 | levi-laptop | Yow. |
| 03:55.53 | levi-laptop | That's a lot of video. |
| 03:55.57 | Maquis | yeah |
| 03:56.02 | Maquis | but hey... it's over :) |
| 03:57.56 | Maquis | levi-laptop: did you notice that in some of the pictures of "uses" for lightsabers, the blade casts a shadow? |
| 03:57.58 | levi-laptop | What sort of stuff did they cover in the videos? |
| 03:58.17 | levi-laptop | Heh, nope. I didn't look that closely. |
| 03:58.22 | Maquis | all their proprietary software |
| 03:58.51 | levi-laptop | So you know their seekrits now? |
| 04:00.20 | Maquis | hypothetically |
| 04:00.34 | Maquis | like i said, i was working on the linux box a bit... |
| 04:01.02 | Maquis | btw, i discovered something interesting about voip today |
| 04:01.25 | Maquis | my phone rebooted every time that lightning hit nearby |
| 04:02.04 | levi-laptop | Weird. |
| 04:05.23 | larsawaySOLDOUT | that was painful |
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| 04:06.09 | levi-laptop | Eh? |
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| 04:12.42 | levi-laptop | larsawaySOLDOUT: Were you attempting to see the movie tonight or something? |
| 04:13.19 | larsawaySOLDOUT | no |
| 04:13.37 | larsawaySOLDOUT | not for another 50 hours |
| 04:16.05 | lars-ut | No more tix requests please |
| 04:16.45 | Maquis | lars-ut: can i get a ticket? |
| 04:16.46 | lars-ut | ~emulate gir |
| 04:16.47 | ibot | dooom doooom doom |
| 04:16.47 | Maquis | :) |
| 04:17.04 | lars-ut | ~jedi Maquis |
| 04:17.05 | ibot | ACTION plays jedi mind tricks on Maquis |
| 04:17.32 | Maquis | ~jedi lars-ut |
| 04:17.33 | ibot | ACTION zaps lars-ut with her jedi powers |
| 04:21.53 | levi-laptop | Maquis: G'night! |
| 04:22.16 | levi-laptop | lars-ut: I didn't want any of your stinkin' tickets anyway. ;) |
| 04:22.32 | levi-laptop | I got a free one from work. |
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| 05:00.20 | levi-laptop | They've gotta wait until saturday? ;) |
| 05:00.45 | levi-laptop | Saturday I'll be riding my bike 100 miles. |
| 05:03.25 | tensai | levi-laptop: what direction? |
| 05:03.47 | levi-laptop | In a loop. |
| 05:04.00 | levi-laptop | It's the Salt Lake City Century ride. |
| 05:04.13 | levi-laptop | Starts at the state fairgrounds. |
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| 05:38.29 | Hhhhh | hello |
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| 05:44.59 | levi-laptop | Yo. |
| 05:45.28 | Hhhhh | ~lart Hhhhh |
| 05:45.38 | Hhhhh | ~lart Hhhhh |
| 05:45.46 | Hhhhh | ~fish Hhhhh |
| 05:45.48 | ibot | ACTION slaps Hhhhh around with a large trout |
| 05:46.01 | Hhhhh | who programs all this stuff into ibot? |
| 05:46.57 | levi-laptop | Bored people. |
| 05:53.11 | levi-laptop | Hmm, my cat is eating a very large flying insect. |
| 05:58.04 | levi-laptop | I hate Java's primitive types. |
| 05:58.39 | Hhhhh | what about them? |
| 05:58.51 | levi-laptop | They are not objects. |
| 05:58.59 | levi-laptop | So you can't call methods on them. |
| 05:59.22 | levi-laptop | (unless you stick them in their wrapper classes) |
| 05:59.26 | Hhhhh | true |
| 05:59.33 | Hhhhh | C# does a better job at that |
| 05:59.45 | Hhhhh | even booleans are objects really |
| 05:59.59 | levi-laptop | Smalltalk did it right first. |
| 06:00.26 | Hhhhh | never played with Smalltalk |
| 06:00.33 | levi-laptop | So it's not like there wasn't precedent to optimize numbers as objects. |
| 06:01.00 | levi-laptop | In fact, Sun has a cool language called Self that's based on Smalltalk. |
| 06:01.25 | levi-laptop | And they took a lot of the HotSpot technology from the Self research, IIRC. |
| 06:01.51 | levi-laptop | The Java standard libraries borrow a lot from Smalltalk, too. |
| 06:28.30 | xbmodder__ | hey |
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| 13:49.58 | xbmodder__ | SOMEONE respond |
| 13:50.12 | xbmodder__ | Its so ****ing bored sitting here. |
| 13:50.26 | xbmodder__ | boring |
| 13:59.04 | barkingspider | Booooooring! |
| 14:05.39 | dataw0lf|w | woohoo for mod_python. |
| 14:12.11 | xbmodder | Hello |
| 14:12.14 | xbmodder | How are you |
| 14:16.39 | barkingspider | I'm working. |
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| 14:25.58 | barkingspider | work work work. |
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| 14:35.05 | usynic | anyone that's good with mod_perl2 in yet? |
| 14:38.16 | hans | i can spell it well. |
| 14:39.21 | usynic | :P |
| 14:40.53 | xbmodder | barkingspider, what do you do? |
| 14:43.00 | barkingspider | computer lab aide at a university |
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| 14:43.14 | RyanE | been there, done that. |
| 14:43.35 | barkingspider | It's easy work. Thought about crawling under my desk and sleeping. |
| 14:44.06 | RyanE | always good to get homework done as well. |
| 14:45.05 | barkingspider | Yeah, great time to do homework. |
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| 15:25.42 | lars-ut | ~burn |
| 15:25.43 | ibot | "And it burns burns burns... the ring of fire..." |
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| 15:45.38 | RyanE | so, in Ep. II, who ordered the clones 'grown' anyway? |
| 15:45.49 | RyanE | gotta be a SW uberfan here. |
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| 15:51.17 | vontrapp | some jedi i forget the name of |
| 15:51.32 | RyanE | a good jedi, or a bad jedi? |
| 15:51.34 | mrpull | how cool is m0n0wall? that is a sweet package. |
| 15:51.39 | RyanE | m0n0wall rocks |
| 15:51.41 | vontrapp | a dead jedi |
| 15:51.47 | RyanE | ok. thanks. |
| 15:51.58 | RyanE | mrpull: using m0n0wall for personal or business use? |
| 15:52.05 | vontrapp | don't know any more than that :) |
| 15:52.13 | mrpull | evaluating for business use. |
| 15:52.20 | mrpull | but it looks strong. |
| 15:52.31 | RyanE | I use it for home, and have some PHP scripts to manipulate the wall. |
| 15:52.41 | mrpull | i just need a cheap firewall for a public wifi |
| 15:52.42 | RyanE | so I can login on my webserver with https:// and then open specific ports |
| 15:52.57 | mrpull | do make frequent changes? |
| 15:53.04 | RyanE | so I leave my SSH port closed, then use my web admin tool to open the SSH port. |
| 15:53.09 | RyanE | then I SSH in and close the port again |
| 15:53.10 | RyanE | very secure |
| 15:53.11 | mrpull | ahhh. |
| 15:53.29 | mrpull | i'm actually using it more for DHCP/captive portal than anything |
| 15:53.37 | mrpull | there is nothing to really protect in this case. |
| 15:53.48 | mrpull | it is just so simple, it is a good fit. |
| 15:54.00 | mrpull | i had a pix there before... |
| 15:54.03 | RyanE | yeah, but you don't want your portal users to be able to ssh through the wall, or is it just open? |
| 15:54.12 | mrpull | it's open |
| 15:54.16 | RyanE | can they just web or all ports through? |
| 15:54.18 | RyanE | interesting. |
| 15:54.28 | mrpull | it's in a place that isn't likely to be abused. |
| 15:54.47 | tensai | RyanE: I think all the SW uberfans are home sleeping in after camping out last night |
| 15:55.02 | mrpull | there is a very small number of people that can use it... and if they abuse it, I'll know, and hurt them. |
| 15:55.16 | RyanE | I think the throttling might be handy on an OPEN portal |
| 15:55.26 | RyanE | tens: our company is taking us in a few hours |
| 15:55.49 | mrpull | i turned on the traffic shaping |
| 15:55.57 | mrpull | i haven't played with that much yet. |
| 15:56.12 | RyanE | so mrpull, you're then just allowing the portal users access to the internet, or into your internal network as well> |
| 15:56.12 | RyanE | ? |
| 15:56.20 | RyanE | are you using the DMZ functionality? |
| 15:56.22 | mrpull | just access to the internet |
| 15:56.26 | RyanE | aha |
| 15:57.00 | RyanE | cool. I haven't played with the captive portal stuff yet, but I'm thinking of opening up my wifi with an open portal, and allowing access to the internet from the neighborhood |
| 15:57.39 | mrpull | it is a cool tool. i may implement the radius support, but i think i've already made it more complicated than necessary |
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| 15:58.50 | vontrapp | ~lart stray lock file |
| 16:00.33 | RyanE | time to go see ep. III |
| 16:00.34 | RyanE | later. |
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| 16:00.42 | mrpull | enjoy! |
| 16:03.25 | tene | ... nooooo, come back, firefox! |
| 16:04.03 | hans | ryanE is your firefox? |
| 16:04.17 | tene | Nope. |
| 16:04.20 | tene | Is he yours? |
| 16:04.34 | Newsome | ~lart FireThunderFoxBird |
| 16:05.07 | usynic | Utah Python and Ruby User's group meeting tonight at 6:00 if any of you are interested. |
| 16:05.28 | usynic | It's our first meeting, the presentation will be "Intro to Python" |
| 16:05.56 | mrpull | python and ruby in the same room? wont you guys bite each other? |
| 16:06.18 | usynic | hopefully not, but no promises |
| 16:06.34 | vontrapp | a ruby would break a pythons teeth |
| 16:07.34 | usynic | this is more about learning new languages because it's fun, not about being zealot for a specific one. |
| 16:07.57 | usynic | I realize that ruby is better than python (/me winks at dataw0lf|w), but I still want to learn python :) |
| 16:09.52 | vontrapp | ~lart xmms |
| 16:10.05 | vontrapp | i thought we had an understanding |
| 16:12.34 | hans | usynic: you do realize that there's a utah ruby users group? |
| 16:12.38 | hans | #urug |
| 16:13.01 | usynic | hans: I did, but it seems like someone said it's Utah County based |
| 16:13.18 | hans | last I heard meetings were planning on draper |
| 16:14.16 | usynic | we may just go upug, depending on how everything goes. |
| 16:16.09 | dataw0lf|w | urapug sounds better though |
| 16:16.12 | dataw0lf|w | :) |
| 16:28.11 | vontrapp | ~lart braindead spreadsheets |
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| 16:50.46 | hans | hm, one of the VPs brings his laptop in because "there's too many processes" |
| 16:51.06 | hans | he's primarily concerned because there are duplicate processes (e.g. svchost.exe) in the process list (task manager) |
| 16:51.34 | hans | he's coming to the too many processes conclusion from that process list, not from performance concerns |
| 16:51.55 | hans | how do I nicely tell him, that's the way it is dude. |
| 16:52.04 | levi-laptop | usynic: Why only Ruby and Python? |
| 16:52.32 | Bradipo | hans: Tell him you could replace with something better like Linux on the desktop. :-) |
| 16:52.39 | usynic | levi-laptop: I wouldn't mind having an Intro to Lisp presentation at some point. |
| 16:52.44 | hans | hey, there's an idea. :-) |
| 16:52.53 | Bradipo | Or he can just live with the performance hit by having too many processes. :-) |
| 16:53.01 | levi-laptop | usynic: Or smalltalk |
| 16:53.07 | hans | usynic: why don't you rename it the utah language exploration group |
| 16:53.09 | hans | or something |
| 16:53.35 | usynic | I'll bring it up |
| 16:55.51 | levi-laptop | Or 'dynamic languages' or 'agile languages', if you want to buzzwordize it. ;) |
| 16:56.49 | hans | utah software linguists |
| 16:57.09 | levi-laptop | That's a group I could get behind. ;) |
| 16:57.36 | hans | or maybe computer linguists |
| 16:57.45 | levi-laptop | Assuming it could avoid flamewars and extreme language bigotry. |
| 16:58.08 | usynic | that'd be a tough one. |
| 16:58.17 | hans | easy enough, just make it part of the mission statement to be open minded and not flame languages, then kick people off the list that flame |
| 16:58.48 | hans | maybe with a warning or something. punishment clearly laid out at time of joining |
| 17:00.20 | dataw0lf|w | Good idea for a group, but not for urapug. |
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| 17:00.53 | neybar | I'm having a hard time finding relevant info on google, but how do you implement address+foo@domain.com in exim? |
| 17:01.14 | neybar | I'd like the email to still end up in address@domain.com |
| 17:01.15 | levi-laptop | Speaking of Smalltalk, this looks pretty cool as a learning environment: http://smallwiki.unibe.ch/botsinc/ |
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| 17:01.44 | levi-laptop | dataw0lf: I don't understand the grouping of Python and Ruby, though. |
| 17:01.58 | dataw0lf|w | you don't have to. |
| 17:02.01 | levi-laptop | Gah, got a meeting. |
| 17:02.15 | vontrapp | neybar: that's default behaviour in postfix, don't know about exim |
| 17:03.11 | neybar | it apparently isn't default behaviour in exim, or I've turned it off by mistake in the past. |
| 17:03.14 | vontrapp | it's called recipient_delimiter in postfix, maybe that can get you some results |
| 17:09.09 | vontrapp | neybar: a warning, lots of web forms don't think the + makes a valid email address |
| 17:09.29 | vontrapp | so you might want to make the delimiter a . or something else |
| 17:09.37 | jakea | hans! |
| 17:09.49 | vontrapp | hans! |
| 17:09.52 | hans | jakea! |
| 17:09.54 | jakea | hans: So, these are the voyages..... |
| 17:10.07 | jakea | did you see it, are you angry like me? |
| 17:10.26 | hans | I saw it. disappointing |
| 17:10.40 | vontrapp | an ok episode maybe, but a lame finale |
| 17:10.52 | hans | riker and troi are too old to pass for the same age as "The Pegasus" |
| 17:11.11 | jakea | I didn't think their could be a finale worse than the Voyager one, but I was wrong |
| 17:11.13 | hans | and since when does riker need help figuring out when to follow and break orders? |
| 17:12.17 | jakea | what a horrible end to such a great season overall. The Beebs just had to get one last crappy episode with their name on it |
| 17:12.57 | hans | sigh. my boss is signing the linux-incompetent programmers on as root. there goes the neighborhood |
| 17:13.31 | hans | and what's with killing trip? what's the point of that? |
| 17:13.39 | Bradipo | How does he have the ability to give them root? |
| 17:13.45 | hans | he has root |
| 17:13.49 | vontrapp | to make riker more comfortable breaking orders |
| 17:14.04 | Bradipo | hans: You just need to get managers that know they aren't technical... |
| 17:14.25 | hans | he's technical |
| 17:14.28 | Bradipo | Rather than those that delude themselves into thinking they are technical enough to have root. |
| 17:14.58 | jakea | killing trip had no point. if you are going to kill off someone, do something cool like..... they see a Romulan and are killed before they can tell anyone |
| 17:15.36 | hans | Bradipo: it's one of those cases of legacy root. he was IT when he started |
| 17:15.48 | hans | IT as in info tech and IT as in it |
| 17:16.17 | hans | then comes my supervisor, now comes me. so now although I'm the "sysadmin" and do most root stuff, they all still have root and there's no way they're giving it up |
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| 17:16.26 | hans | and it's a case of too many hands in the pot. |
| 17:16.30 | hans | er, chefs in the kitchen |
| 17:16.48 | hans | but this logging in a programmer as root is so far (to my knowledge) unprecedented. |
| 17:16.55 | vontrapp | pigs in the trough |
| 17:17.13 | hans | this is only a test server, though |
| 17:17.23 | hans | so it's not the end of the world. just a bit scary |
| 17:17.43 | hans | i hope he does something to totally screw it up |
| 17:17.52 | hans | so they never give it away on the production server |
| 17:19.10 | tensai | neybar: I don't see anything special in my exim.conf to handle + but it does. that's 4.34. what version are you using? |
| 17:19.45 | hans | and the stupid program he's installing (did they ask me to install it? no of course not) is about the most braindead piece of java software I've ever seen. |
| 17:19.53 | neybar | it is exim4 |
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| 17:20.15 | hans | doing things like subverting DNS, putting pid files in /, and just plain not working |
| 17:23.57 | optikal | you would. |
| 17:24.08 | optikal | =P |
| 17:24.29 | optikal | onoz. |
| 17:26.13 | vontrapp | pid files in /, that's rich |
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| 17:30.40 | vontrapp | a spider on my window |
| 17:30.49 | vontrapp | where's spiderbiter |
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| 17:31.25 | hans | http://www.arrl.org/news/stories/2005/05/16/3/?nc=1 |
| 17:31.40 | hans | take that, teen thumbers |
| 17:40.40 | hans | I don't like it when people leave their IM on in meetings where their computer is up on the screen |
| 17:40.52 | hans | especially when I'm the unsuspecting person sending the IM. |
| 17:41.21 | vontrapp | what did you send? |
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| 17:41.50 | hans | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:42.04 | vontrapp | haha |
| 17:42.05 | hans | probably more embarrasing for him than me, depending on who's in that meeting |
| 17:42.11 | hans | but still... |
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| 18:18.30 | bucky | ~seen levi-laptop |
| 18:18.33 | ibot | levi-laptop is currently on #utah (37m 3s) |
| 18:20.20 | bucky | levi-laptop, have you heard of LLVM ? it's a compiler that Stacker uses which is a Forth like language |
| 18:20.22 | bucky | http://llvm.cs.uiuc.edu/docs/Stacker.html |
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| 18:58.32 | Jayce^ | ok folks, who all has seen it so far? |
| 18:58.37 | spr | me |
| 18:58.43 | Jayce^ | what'd ya think? |
| 18:58.51 | spr | I liked it. |
| 18:59.03 | Jayce^ | agreed, was good |
| 18:59.07 | spr | Lucas needs to learn how to do dialog better, but I was expecting that |
| 18:59.21 | Jayce^ | great saber fights |
| 18:59.25 | spr | oh yeah. |
| 18:59.27 | Jayce^ | loved the space battles |
| 19:00.28 | spr | it was cool. |
| 19:00.40 | spr | The best was my friend who dressed up. |
| 19:00.43 | spr | As batman |
| 19:00.53 | *** topic/#utah by Jayce^ -> The source for OSS focused discussion in Utah. See sllug.org, plug.org, uug.byu.edu, uvlug.org, fslc.usu.edu, nupm.org, utwaa.org, oalug.com. See planetutah.adelantellc.com for aggregate feeds. | May the force be with you! |
| 19:00.57 | Jayce^ | heh |
| 19:01.01 | spr | nice |
| 19:01.20 | spr | cool |
| 19:01.26 | spr | where'd you see it at? |
| 19:01.35 | Jayce^ | Hollywood Connection, West Valley |
| 19:01.36 | vontrapp | two people at my complex last night were dressed up as batman and spiderman, i imagine for that reason |
| 19:04.22 | Jayce^ | if anyone was watching ch4 news last night, we were on then |
| 19:05.31 | hans | to mock the star wars fans, or is there a legit reason for batman and spiderman? |
| 19:05.52 | vontrapp | don't know |
| 19:06.07 | spr | My friend was on a dare. The 7 foot light saber was cool that he had |
| 19:07.39 | neybar | Jayce^: I've been awake and working since 9... slacker. |
| 19:07.57 | hans | after years of stupidity, paypal welcomes me back into the fold |
| 19:13.29 | levi-laptop | bucky: Yeah, I've heard of LLVM. |
| 19:14.01 | bucky | paypalsucks.com |
| 19:33.13 | Jayce^ | neybar, I woke up at 8:30, looked at the clock and said "screw it, my boss isn't going in to work today anyways" |
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| 20:07.33 | vontrapp | opposite of green? |
| 20:07.53 | vontrapp | or rather, just a good contrast to green |
| 20:13.31 | tensai | vontrapp: http://www.colormatters.com/colortheory.html |
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| 20:28.35 | tensai | hans: make sure you point out to your boss that he should have invested in a quality switch. they're worth their weight in gold. |
| 20:28.48 | hans | ya |
| 20:32.15 | tensai | hans: http://www.zmonkey.org/~tensai/vnc.png |
| 20:34.28 | tensai | that's realvnc 4.0 |
| 20:36.17 | hans | that's our current plan. upgrade everything to version 4 and hope he tries again. |
| 20:54.24 | neybar | vontrapp: If you are doing color design check out this page. It is invaluable. http://wellstyled.com/tools/colorscheme2/index-en.html |
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| 21:02.24 | goozbach | kicks Jayce^ and punches neybar |
| 21:02.40 | goozbach | and then goes to bed for 2.5 hours |
| 21:02.53 | goozbach | Jayce^: I found a jumpsuit that fits me |
| 21:03.12 | goozbach | stopped in at smith & edwards coming back from logan |
| 21:03.31 | goozbach | who knew that place was soo cool?... |
| 21:06.02 | Jayce^ | goozbach, you finally run out of caffeine? |
| 21:06.30 | Jayce^ | goozbach, you suit up as ice-cream man again? or getting a jumpsuit for your imperial armor? |
| 21:06.32 | mheath | goozbach: is it really that great? I've heard it was cool, never been in there myself. |
| 21:07.58 | goozbach | mheath: I'm all sorts of liking it |
| 21:08.03 | goozbach | Jayce^: yup |
| 21:08.05 | goozbach | and yup |
| 21:08.31 | mheath | Anyone see star wars last night? |
| 21:08.31 | Jayce^ | I was telling mike after the movie, I want one of the clone trooper armor from kashyyk |
| 21:08.35 | Jayce^ | mheath, yeah |
| 21:08.48 | mheath | Jayce^, I'm seeing it at 10:45 tonight. Am I going to like it? :D |
| 21:09.03 | Jayce^ | mheath, I did |
| 21:09.15 | mheath | I asked my friend what he thought of it |
| 21:09.22 | mheath | Just said "It's amazing. And horrible" |
| 21:09.25 | mheath | O.o |
| 21:09.25 | Jayce^ | just remember to pee before going in, and don't drink anything during it |
| 21:09.31 | mheath | hahaha, yeah |
| 21:09.32 | Jayce^ | yeah, not a "happy" movie |
| 21:09.33 | mheath | Heard it was long |
| 21:09.34 | goozbach | mheath: I've seen it twice now |
| 21:09.38 | Jayce^ | didn't feel long |
| 21:09.45 | mheath | Jayce^, well, yeah, I didn't think it would be |
| 21:09.53 | goozbach | gonna get another showing in tonight |
| 21:10.09 | mheath | Death, destruction, abandonment, your previously-a-hero turning very very evil.... |
| 21:10.43 | mheath | He turns good again in the end :) |
| 21:11.22 | goozbach | I don't know if you'll feel the same after watching it |
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| 21:11.59 | leinaD | does lynx do anything differently (connection wise) than just telnetting to port 80 on the remote machine in question? |
| 21:12.27 | leinaD | I've got a server where I can use lynx to get google no problem but if I telnet www.google.com 80 and do GET / HTTP/1.0 (hit enter twice) it gives me nothing at all |
| 21:12.33 | leinaD | plus telnet locks up |
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| 21:15.15 | hans | leinaD: odd, but maybe try netcat |
| 21:15.31 | leinaD | what's netcat? |
| 21:15.39 | leinaD | (no manual entry for netcat) |
| 21:15.51 | leinaD | also no netcat in my path |
| 21:15.59 | hans | nc is the command |
| 21:16.00 | leinaD | ahh, nc |
| 21:16.10 | hans | netcat is telnet without the telnet-specifics |
| 21:16.16 | leinaD | ahh cool |
| 21:16.24 | leinaD | too bad I have to leave now :( |
| 21:16.29 | leinaD | should've asked here an hour ago |
| 21:16.54 | tene | netcat can also listen. |
| 21:25.21 | hans | netcat is like the pipe of the internet. I love it. |
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| 21:33.34 | hans | ~lart tene just for fun. |
| 21:41.54 | hans | monday's memorial day, right? |
| 21:42.03 | Bradipo | I don't think so. |
| 21:42.08 | hans | next monday? |
| 21:42.11 | mrpull | 30ty |
| 21:42.13 | mrpull | 30th |
| 21:42.16 | hans | ok |
| 21:42.24 | mrpull | sweet. i need a day off. |
| 21:42.41 | mrpull | (in addition to last friday) |
| 21:48.45 | tensai | yes, netcat rocks |
| 21:51.54 | mrpull | http://www.google.com/ig |
| 21:51.59 | mrpull | interesting |
| 21:52.16 | mrpull | remember when yahoo was just a search engine? |
| 21:55.49 | vontrapp | remember when google was just a better search engine? |
| 21:56.27 | mrpull | the drag and drop of the modules is cool |
| 21:56.35 | mrpull | but I doubt I'd use this much |
| 21:56.47 | mrpull | now if they could make a bloglines killer... i'd be all over that |
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| 22:28.39 | spr | does perl have a pwd builtin function |
| 22:30.35 | spr | ie like chdir |
| 22:31.58 | spr | nevermind |
| 22:31.59 | mrpull | perldoc cwd |
| 22:32.26 | neybar | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:32.26 | neybar | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:32.48 | spr | thanks |
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| 23:22.50 | lars-ut | mrpull: remember when yahoo was the only dir worth using? |
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