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00:40.07Newsomehttp://kerneltrap.org/node/5103
00:44.56goozbachwww.boxedthoughts.com
00:47.27goozbachI just realized I haven't eaten lunch yet today
00:47.35goozbachand it's ten to seven
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01:02.17xbmodder_lappyIs there a javascript "shell" in which i can test out javascript?
01:10.06synicanyone know how to recover a password from an MS access file?
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02:07.44tenethat's odd
02:07.44tenerandom output while running this perl script I just wrote:
02:07.44tene[file dpi]: dpip_tag = '<dpi cmd='DpiBye'>'
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03:19.29tenehttp://www.4q.cc/vin/
03:33.53goozbachnice
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06:19.44yanialguien que hable español? :)
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06:40.26Hhhhhhello
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13:45.12Uncle_JesseOMG - I can't believe our sysadmins have jobs
13:45.34Uncle_JesseOne of them was just complaining that we had code referencing a domain that no longer existed
13:45.45Uncle_Jessehe was searching for nc and classifieds
13:46.19Uncle_Jessethe code he was seeing was Winston NC,Classifieds Marketplace in the query string of the url
13:46.31Uncle_Jessethere wasn't even a "." in there
13:46.48Uncle_JesseAnd this was a manager
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14:27.09hansUncle_Jesse: and this surprises you because he's a manager?
14:28.38Jayce^http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0740748475/qid=1115749860/sr=8-1/ref=pd_csp_1/103-2736180-4405419?v=glance&s=books&n=507846
14:28.43Jayce^somebody want to buy me that?
14:32.10resplinanybody here understand selinux?
14:33.52dataw0lf|wmmm Calvin and Hobbes
14:34.20dataw0lf|wresplin: Yes.
14:35.33resplindataw0lf|w: Do you mind helping me understand some strange behavior?
14:37.54resplin?
14:38.48dataw0lf|wKinda busy right now.
14:39.16resplindataw0lf|w: okay, thanks.
14:39.19resplinAny other takers?
14:41.24dataw0lf|wMaybe in an hour or so, I have to install OpenGL drivers on a couple Tru64 machines, it could be hairy.
14:42.23resplinI'll post to the plug, and move on to other responsibilities.
14:42.24resplinThanks.
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15:45.51hanscringely is off his rocker
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15:46.19hanshe thinkgs google is going to rule the world because it has a free web accelerator?
15:49.09Uncle_JesseI think if anything that hurts google
15:49.29hans_if_ it works, it can only help google
15:49.30Uncle_Jessepeople don't like services that consume too much data
15:49.45Uncle_Jesses/consume/own/
15:49.51hansit has serious issues last I heard, from the technical standpoint
15:50.51Uncle_JesseI don't dare try it
15:50.52hansbut cringely must have left his thinking cap home, because he thinks google will eventually offer more and more, making it like a thin client thing, but the technology for thin clienting has nothing to do with web acceleration
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15:51.29Uncle_Jessethin clienting will never replace real clients
15:51.34Uncle_JesseI don't think
15:52.34Uncle_Jessebut then again I'm off my rocker too
15:55.33barkingspiderI was offered a 500MHz DEC Alpha 64bit workstation for 200 bucks.  I wonder how easy it would be to put FreeBSD or NetBSD on it.
15:56.32dataw0lf|wit's not very hard.
15:56.54barkingspiderI just gotta come up with the money.
15:58.21JoshHoffer less
15:58.37barkingspiderNaw....it's already a steal.
15:59.01hanswhat makes a DEC so special that a 500mhz box is worth 200 bucks?
16:00.12JoshHhow much ram and HD?
16:00.20barkingspider512 ram and 20g hdd
16:00.26Jayce^I can't even remember the specs on it now..
16:00.30Jayce^dual proc
16:00.35Jayce^that's about all I remember :)
16:00.40barkingspiderhans, it's fast and it's expensive when new
16:01.06hans500 is fast? or is it dual?
16:01.37hansit may be a good price for a DEC, I don't know anything about them.
16:01.44barkingspider500Mhz is sorta fast...since it's 64 bit
16:02.11hansbut if 500 is near the speed of a 500 pc, why not get a 700 PC somewhere for $15
16:02.21hansI'm just curious
16:02.32hansdoes 64-bit make that much difference?
16:02.47barkingspiderWell, I've got a 500MHz PC.  64 bit should make a bit more difference than 32 bit.
16:03.03barkingspiderNot a ton at that clock rating maybe...but some and gives me something to experiment with
16:05.02hans~nslookup tmomobile
16:07.50Uncle_Jesseis there a way to make the equivalent of auto_increment work in MySQL 4.* using InnoDB?  The docs say the regular auto_increment isn't supported until 5.0.3 for InnoDB
16:08.16Jayce^hunh?  when did it not work???  I've always used it fine
16:08.32shadoihans: I think it's tmomail.net or something
16:08.37shadoiI'll look at my pager setup
16:09.06shadoiyeah.. tmomail.net
16:09.07Uncle_JesseIt says so on here: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/mysql/en/create-table.html
16:09.27Uncle_Jessedown under auto_increment
16:09.58Uncle_Jesse"This works for MyISAM only, for memory as of MySQL 4.1, and for InnoDB as of MySQL 5.0.3."
16:11.41Uncle_JesseCREATE TABLE IF NOT EXISTS  Location (LocationID int NOT NULL auto_increment,Zip varchar (10)  NULL ,Longitude char (10)  NULL ,Latitude char (10)  NULL ,Address1 varchar (255)  NULL ,Address2 varchar (255)  NULL ,County varchar (50)  NULL ,AddressHeadline varchar (30)  NULL,primary key(LocationID),foreign key (Zip) references ZipChart(Zip) on delete set null on update cascade,) type=InnoDB auto_increment = 1000000;
16:11.49Uncle_JesseI get a syntax error for that
16:12.06Jayce^I've used auto_increment in innodb since the 3.x series
16:12.18Uncle_Jessenm
16:12.20Jayce^ahhh
16:12.25Uncle_Jesseit was a different syntax error
16:12.28Uncle_Jessethe ,
16:12.37Jayce^the limit it is describing is about providing an starting auto_increment value
16:12.43Jayce^not auto_increment itself
16:12.47Uncle_Jesseoh - yeah
16:12.55Uncle_Jesseduh
16:13.07Uncle_JesseI was confusing myself
16:13.20Uncle_Jessebrb - lunch
16:13.20Jayce^yeah, reading one section, and applying to to the whole :)
16:13.27Uncle_Jessethanks
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16:20.11vontrappphpers?
16:20.42vontrappi have a thing that takes a file and imports it, however, it sometimes has mac formatted files (funky line ends) and it fails
16:21.16vontrappis there anyway i can tell it how to grok the file or should i just run it through some converter program?
16:22.14vontrappusing the fgetcsv function on the file
16:25.39dataw0lf|wstatic line lengths?
16:25.59vontrappno
16:26.45dataw0lf|wI doubt if fgetcsv will be much use in removing those.
16:27.03dataw0lf|wYou could regex it out, if that's applicable.
16:27.55vontrappthis function reads line-at-a-time
16:28.12vontrappso i don't think i could regexp it
16:28.34vontrappunless i read the whole file into a string
16:28.49vontrappregexp it, then cycle throuth the lines a different way
16:29.30vontrapp*sigh*
16:29.35vontrapp~lart non-standards
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16:34.44BradipoAnyone know if there is an online log of this channel?
16:35.12BradipoI thought ibot maintained one, but I don't know where it is...
16:35.26Jayce^she does..
16:35.34goozbach~logs
16:35.35ibotapt/ibot/jbot/purl all log to http://ibot.rikers.org/<channelname>/ where channelname is html encoded ie: %23debian | lines that start with a space are not shown | some channels have stats at http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/<channelname>.html.gz, or updated "nightly"
16:35.59BradipoAhh, yes!
16:36.00BradipoThanks.
16:36.44Bradipolol, now if only I could remember what day that URL was posted... lol
16:37.17hanswhat URL?
16:37.24BradipoThat's the thing, I don't remember.
16:37.37Jayce^have a related topic or something?
16:37.41BradipoNope.
16:37.50BradipoJust random conversation.
16:38.42hansheh. I need that URL that I don't remember what it is about or good for
16:38.54BradipoExactly.
16:39.05Jayce^so there was a url, pointing to something you can't remember, that came up in random conversation, some time ago
16:39.05tensaithen why do you need it again?
16:39.05hansbut I do remember I need it. lol
16:39.26goozbach~urls
16:39.35hansthat was a bgirham thing
16:39.42goozbachoh yeah
16:39.46goozbach|logs
16:39.53vontrapp~mourn brigham
16:39.54ibotACTION lights some candles for brigham
16:39.55hansmaquis killed brigham
16:40.05hansbecause she thought he was too confrontational or something
16:40.05goozbachcurse you MAQUIS!!!
16:40.35BradipoUsually I don't commit something to memory unless it will be useful.  Sometimes I find that a quote or other information is useful and I can remember where I saw it, but not exactly what it is.
16:41.00hansBradipo: I think I know what it is:
16:41.03hanshttp://google.com/
16:41.20BradipoGoogle only helps if you can remember a phrase from it. :-)
16:41.50BradipoI'll find it.
16:41.58BradipoI just have to open each conversation I've had.
16:43.16vontrappdoes os X use unix line endings now or still the silly ^M things?
16:43.25hansunix
16:43.41hansat least, for new files created at the shell
16:43.51vontrappso it's only an occasional program that still writes files in mac format
16:44.06hansi would imagine it gracefully handles the old cr-only style
16:44.15vontrappin this case, whatever the mac office/excel application
16:44.31vontrapp_it_ does i'm sure, but php is lamer
16:44.56hansnaturally
16:45.47vontrappwell, how about a program to change the format on a mac?
16:45.52hanshmm, someone claiming a high security vuln in ipsec
16:48.27tensaiipsec the protocol, or somebody's implementation
16:48.31tensai?
16:50.09hansprotocol
16:50.21hanslooks like only under certain (not-common) configurations though.
16:54.32BradipoAnyone here familiar with rrdtool?
16:55.47hansBradipo: nominally
16:55.55hansand quite familiar with cacti, which uses rrdtool
16:58.07BradipoWell, I have data that I'm accumulating every 5 minutes.
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16:58.21Bradiporrdtool is storing the average of that data per second.
16:58.53BradipoLet's say I have 300 as the value; this is stored as 300/300 (or 1)
16:59.10BradipoBut in my graph, I want to actually show 5 minute increments.
16:59.39BradipoSo that it shows the real amount of values per poll time.
17:00.09BradipoNot sure if that makes sense...
17:00.11Bradipolol
17:00.50BradipoSo, the legend right now only scales from 0 to 3.0
17:01.21BradipoI guess what I want to do is change the time legend from seconds to minutes or something.
17:01.30BradipoThe time scale.
17:01.47hanswell, cacti can make graphs with different time scales, so it should be possible
17:01.57hansIt hink I can look at a graph in debug and see the config or something.
17:03.15BradipoI read the rrdtool tutorial, which is actually not too bad.
17:04.32BradipoFrom what I've seen so far, I think I might like RRD more than MRTG.
17:05.29hansI thinkt hat's the idea.
17:07.01tensaimrtg can use rrdtool as a back-end
17:08.02tensaiwhen you create the rrd archive you have to specify a different step with --step. default is 300 seconds
17:08.16tensaiI don't know if you can modify it once it's initialized
17:08.29BradipoI don't think it can be.
17:08.48BradipoBut is that what I would want?
17:08.52tensaiI've tried a few times but never been successful. didn't know if it was just me
17:09.14tensaiI think so. I'm not an rrdtool expert, just use it with cacti
17:09.18BradipoI just want to display the information differently.
17:09.43BradipoFor example, 300 connections in 5 minutes is really 1/s
17:10.02BradipoBut what I want is to graph it as 5 minute slices instead of 1 second slices.
17:10.10hansBradipo: I can send you a sample snippet from a graph that shows a whole week
17:10.16tensaiif you drop the step you'll have to poll more frequently, so maybe I'm wrong
17:10.17BradipoCool.
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17:35.38Hhhhhhello
17:44.19goozbachhhhowdy
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18:01.23Uncle_Jesse<PROTECTED>
18:46.33fungustoday at 1pm, Kevin Mitnick will be a guest on radiogodaddy.com
18:56.28scottwhy does firefox still use that ugly-as-sin blue icon?
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19:14.51vontrappscott: the one in the address bar?
19:15.28scottvontrapp: no, the application icon (shortcuts, and in the application window)
19:15.58hansscott: because firefox is anal about the trademark
19:16.11hansso Debian (at least, probably other distros) had to come up with their own icon
19:16.17hansbecause it's a redistribution
19:16.38scotthans, lame..
19:16.46hansyeah, very
19:16.56vontrappyou could download the icon yourself and put it in the appropriate place
19:17.10hansat one point the debian maintainer was on the point of renaming it too, because "mozilla" and "firefox" are also trademarks
19:17.18hansso far at least, sanity has prevailed.
19:17.34scotthans, besides that, when I download it from getfirefox.com I get that blue icon as the shortcut icon in windows also
19:17.47scottexcept it shows the nice firefox icon in the application window
19:17.49hansoh really? that's odd
19:18.02hansI've never seen that icon on windows
19:18.33scottit might be because I used to have a modified version of firefox installed and maybe it got left behind
19:19.08scottvontrapp: I already replaced it but gimp sucked at converting the png to .ico so it's ugly as sin
19:21.00vontrappscott: you need a windows icon?
19:21.19scottsure
19:21.42hansscott: still sounds fishy to me, but oh well
19:25.37vontrappi think it was icoutils that i used once, worked pretty good
19:25.47vontrappuses libpng
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20:07.04hansdream of me, dream of me dripping when you go to drink. remember me, dripping and dripping, when you tilt your head!
20:10.13BradipoUhh, is that supposed to be some kind of play on Phantom?
20:10.42hanssomething like that
20:11.35dataw0lf|wword ****, phantoms like a *******
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20:35.25Lars-UTcan someone give me an example of a literal for ibot similar to mourn?  One where ibot performs the action on the string or nick specified?
20:36.14hans~literal mourn $who
20:36.15ibotACTION lights some candles for $who
20:36.24hans~literal mounr
20:36.28hans~literal mourn
20:36.39hansodd. it goes like this
20:36.53vontrapp~literal mourn $who
20:36.54ibotACTION lights some candles for $who
20:36.55hansmourn is <action> lights some candles for $who
20:37.24Lars-UT$who         - nick of factoid requester
20:37.52Lars-UTthat would just perform the action on the person sending the request I think
20:38.27hansright, I guess it should be mourn $who is <action> hits $who
20:38.37hansif there's an argument, I think it is $who too
20:38.53Lars-UTgrinbig is <action> flashes a cheesy grin at $who
20:39.03Lars-UT~grinbig
20:39.33vontrappLars-UT: when you say something $var whatever the name of $var is then becomes that second argument to the factiod request
20:39.44vontrappe.g.
20:39.56vontrapp~spin $what is <action> spins $what
20:39.57ibotokay, vontrapp
20:40.03vontrapp~spin a top
20:40.05ibotACTION spins a top
20:40.09Lars-UTno, grinbig is <action> flashes a cheesy grin at $what
20:40.23Lars-UT~no, grinbig is <action> flashes a cheesy grin at $what
20:40.41vontrappyou have to include the $what in the factoid reference
20:41.01vontrapp~no, grinbig $what is <action> flashes a cheesy grin at $what
20:41.16Lars-UT~grinbig $what is <action> flashes a cheesy grin at $what
20:41.17ibotLars-UT: okay
20:41.25Lars-UTgrinbig vontrapp
20:41.28vontrappah, no grinbig eyt
20:41.36Lars-UT~grinbig vontrapp
20:41.37ibotACTION flashes a cheesy grin at vontrapp
20:41.41Lars-UTthank you!
20:42.18Lars-UTI did look at docs, too... They were sparse
20:43.12Uncle_Jessejbot doesn't have much documentation
20:43.19Uncle_Jesseie blootbot
20:43.54Uncle_JesseNow how would I do what you did above, but do a randome selection of ~grinbig $who's
20:44.18Lars-UT~infobot guide is at http://www.avians.net/irc/infobot_guide.html
20:44.19ibot...but infobot guide is already something else...
20:44.30Lars-UTwhat is infobot guide
20:44.53vontrapp~infobot guide
20:44.54ibotinfobot guide is probably http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~infobot/infobot_guide.html
20:45.27vontrapp~infobot guide is also at http://www.avians.net/irc/infobot_guide.html
20:45.28ibotvontrapp: okay
20:45.32vontrapp~infobot guide
20:45.34ibotinfobot guide is probably http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~infobot/infobot_guide.html, or at http://www.avians.net/irc/infobot_guide.html
20:45.40Uncle_Jesse~literal jedi $who
20:45.41ibotpatience, young padwan||<action> chops off $who's head with her lightsaber||<action> jumps in her x-wing fighter and blows $who to pieces||<action> plays jedi mind tricks on $who||<action> zaps $who with her jedi powers
20:46.09vontrapp~jedi $who =~ s/\|\|/\|/g
20:46.09iboti didn't have anything called 'jedi $who' to modify, vontrapp
20:46.25vontrapp~jedi \$who =~ s/\|\|/\|/g
20:46.25iboti didn't have anything called 'jedi \$who' to modify, vontrapp
20:46.36vontrapp~jedi \\$who =~ s/\|\|/\|/g
20:46.36ibotvontrapp: i didn't have anything called 'jedi \\$who' to modify
20:46.38Lars-UT~no, jedi $what is <reply>patience, young padwan||<action> chops off $what\'s head with her lightsaber||<action> jumps in her x-wing fighter and blows $what to pieces||<action> plays jedi mind tricks on $what||<action> zaps $what with her jedi powers
20:47.03Uncle_Jesse~jedi Lars-UT
20:47.04ibotpatience, young padwan||<action> chops off Lars-UT's head with her lightsaber||<action> jumps in her x-wing fighter and blows Lars-UT to pieces||<action> plays jedi mind tricks on Lars-UT||<action> zaps Lars-UT with her jedi powers
20:47.21Uncle_Jesse~usair flight 781
20:47.54Lars-UTdoesn't work
20:48.26Uncle_Jessenope
20:49.02vontrapp~no, jedi $what is "<reply>patience, young padawan|<action>chops off $what\'s head with a lightsaber||<action>jumps in her x-wing fighter and blows $what to pieces||<action>plays jedi mind tricks on $what|<action>zaps $what with her jedi powers"
20:49.45Lars-UTI'm guessing it's the reply that's messing it up
20:49.48Lars-UT~no, jedi $what is <action>patience, young padwan||<action> chops off $what\'s head with her lightsaber||<action> jumps in her x-wing fighter and blows $what to pieces||<action> plays jedi mind tricks on $what||<action> zaps $what with her jedi powers
20:49.56vontrapp~no, jedi $who is "<reply>patience, young padawan|<action>chops off $who\'s head with a lightsaber||<action>jumps in her x-wing fighter and blows $who to pieces||<action>plays jedi mind tricks on $who|<action>zaps $who with her jedi powers"
20:50.09Lars-UTor not
20:50.35Lars-UT~no, jeditest $what is <action>patience, young padwan||<action> chops off $what\'s head with her lightsaber||<action> jumps in her x-wing fighter and blows $what to pieces||<action> plays jedi mind tricks on $what||<action> zaps $what with her jedi powers
20:50.52vontrapp~forget jedi \$who
20:50.52iboti didn't have anything called 'jedi \$who' to forget, vontrapp
20:50.57vontrapp~forget jedi $who
20:50.57iboti didn't have anything called 'jedi $who' to forget, vontrapp
20:51.03Lars-UT~jeditest $what is <action>patience, young padwan||<action> chops off $what\'s head with her lightsaber||<action> jumps in her x-wing fighter and blows $what to pieces||<action> plays jedi mind tricks on $what||<action> zaps $what with her jedi powers
20:51.04ibotokay, Lars-UT
20:51.05vontrapp~forget jedi $$who
20:51.05ibotvontrapp: i didn't have anything called 'jedi $$who' to forget
20:51.14Lars-UT~jeditest vontrapp
20:51.15ibotACTION patience, young padwan||<action> chops off vontrapp's head with her lightsaber||<action> jumps in her x-wing fighter and blows vontrapp to pieces||<action> plays jedi mind tricks on vontrapp||<action> zaps vontrapp with her jedi powers
20:51.29Lars-UTMaybe I didn't understand this after all
20:51.36vontrapp~forget jedi \$who
20:51.36ibotvontrapp: i didn't have anything called 'jedi \$who' to forget
20:51.47vontrapp~forget "jedi \$who"
20:51.47iboti didn't have anything called '"jedi \$who"' to forget, vontrapp
20:52.02vontrapp~forget jedi \\$who
20:52.02iboti didn't have anything called 'jedi \\$who' to forget, vontrapp
20:52.11vontrappblasted, somebody did it once
20:52.18vontrappcan't remember how
20:52.49vontrapp~no, jedi \$who is <reply> see chocolate
20:53.46vontrapp~forget /jedi .*/
20:53.46ibotvontrapp: i didn't have anything called '/jedi .*/' to forget
20:53.55vontrapp~forget jedi (.*)
20:53.55ibotvontrapp: i didn't have anything called 'jedi (.*)' to forget
20:54.28Lars-UT(14:54:50) ibot: cannot remove factoid 'jedi', too old. (12916.8707638889>3600) use 'no,' instead
20:55.08Lars-UTthat's what happened when I sent the command to ibot directly instead of in the channel
21:13.23Lars-UTvontrapp:  I'm still having trouble with multiple actions in a $what
21:13.35Lars-UT~jeditest Lars-UT
21:13.37ibotACTION chops off Lars-UT's head with her lightsaber
21:13.46Lars-UTa single action works fine
21:13.54Uncle_Jesse~literal jeditest
21:14.03Uncle_Jesseah - yeah
21:14.15Uncle_JesseI can't get more than one action with $what/$who
21:14.49Lars-UTthen how does lart work?
21:15.46Lars-UThere's jeditest btw - I sent a private msg to ibot.... no, jeditest $what is <action> chops off $what\'s head with her lightsaber
21:16.14Lars-UTAnd I can't get ibot to forget jeditest
21:20.28vontrapplart is a special function, an entity it's own independent of the factoid restrictions
21:21.54Lars-UTcombining $who and $what in a factoid doesn't seem to work either
21:22.34vontrapp~poke $a with $b is <action> pokes $a with $b
21:22.35ibotbut then who will poke the pokers, vontrapp?
21:22.42vontrappgrrr
21:23.00vontrapp~poker $a with $b is <action> pokes $a with $b
21:23.02ibotvontrapp: okay
21:23.02Lars-UTusing <reply> in a factoid does seem to allow | random multiple responses
21:23.41vontrapp~poker hans with a unicorn
21:23.42ibotACTION pokes hans with a unicorn
21:28.31Lars-UTno, jeditest is <action> obeys $who and chops off $a\'s head with her lightsaber
21:29.00Lars-UTliteral lightsaber
21:29.13Lars-UTlightsaber is <action> obeys $who and chops off $a\'s head with her lightsaber
21:29.18vontrapp~no, jeditest $who is <action> obeys $user and chops off $who\'s head
21:32.37Lars-UT~lightsaber Lars-UT hans
21:33.06Lars-UT~lightsaber Lars-UT with hans
21:33.07ibotACTION obeys Lars-UT and chops off hans's head with her lightsaber
21:33.12Lars-UTlo.,
21:33.13Lars-UTlol
21:34.29Lars-UTI better stop,  It seems that the bot is unable to forget these so all I can do is redefine 'em
21:35.36vontrappi think it was timriker once that managed to make her forget one, don't know bloody how though
21:36.21Lars-UT~lightsaber vontrapp with Lars-UT
21:36.22ibotACTION obeys Lars-UT and chops off vontrapp's head with a lightsaber
21:37.11Lars-UTit'd be fun to write some functions if the interface was better
21:37.53vontrappbrigham had a slightly better interface, IMO
21:38.02vontrapp~mourn brigham
21:38.03ibotACTION lights some candles for brigham
21:38.29vontrapproulette was loads of fun
21:39.02Lars-UTrussian roulette?
21:39.29vontrappoui
21:39.36Lars-UTda
21:40.13vontrappvirsnonskensnoodles
21:41.11vontrappបាáž
21:47.02goozbachif we both die down here I'm gonna be pissed!
21:55.53Lars-UT~no, jedi $who is <action> (jumps in her x-wing fighter and blows $who to pieces|plays jedi mind tricks on $who|zaps $who with her jedi powers|chops off $who\'s head with her lightsaber)
21:56.28Lars-UTjedi vontrapp
21:56.36Lars-UT~jedi vontrapp
21:56.39ibotACTION zaps vontrapp with her jedi powers
21:56.46Lars-UT~jedi vontrapp
21:56.47ibotACTION zaps vontrapp with her jedi powers
21:56.59Lars-UT~jedi vontrapp
21:57.00ibotACTION jumps in her x-wing fighter and blows vontrapp to pieces
21:57.05Lars-UTnice
21:57.39Lars-UTvontrapp thanks for the tip
21:57.56Lars-UT:)
21:58.24Lars-UT~search google for timriker "~forget" site:ibot.rikers.org utah
21:58.41Lars-UTthat's how I found the examples I needed
21:59.11vontrapp~jeditest foo
21:59.12ibotACTION obeys $who and chops off foo's head with her lightsaber
22:00.30Lars-UThaven't fixed that one yet
22:01.04Lars-UTjeditest foo
22:01.13Lars-UT~jeditest foo
22:01.14ibotACTION jumps in her x-wing fighter and blows foo to pieces
22:01.55Lars-UTI had to use Google's cache to find his posts, but it worked
22:10.11hans~lart vontrapp
22:14.48hans~dict sensai
22:14.53hans~spell sensei
22:15.12hans~dict sense
22:18.59Lars-UT~listkeys jedi
22:19.34hans~so does that mean return of the jedi
22:19.35ibotso does that mean return of the jedi is probably out?
22:20.09hanssure, ibot. whatever you say.
22:20.23vontrappwhoah, that was trippy
22:20.27Lars-UTibot: you're useless
22:20.28ibotACTION starts crying and hides from lars-ut in the darkest corner of the room. :(
22:20.39vontrappopened a new terminal and the window became discombobulated from the content pane
22:21.01vontrappi could move around this empty window, type in it, and the terminal just sat in the corner, borderless
22:21.49Lars-UT~forget "so does that mean return of the jedi"
22:21.49iboti didn't have anything called '"so does that mean return of the jedi"' to forget, Lars-UT
22:22.16Lars-UT~forget so does that mean return of the jedi
22:22.42Lars-UTlots of 'too old' errors trying to forget stuff
22:24.49Lars-UTibot: you're a waste of electrons
22:24.50ibotACTION Yes, yes I am.
22:42.38bonez41anyone else using thunderbird here, for email?
22:43.13dataw0lf|wYeah.
22:44.07bonez41dataw0lf: I am not sure what happened to my tbird..but in one folder, now I see the following: I have markers that show Today, Yesterday, Last Week, Two Weeks ago and Old Mail?
22:44.30bonez41I don't recall switching that on.....that grouping, but it's there...and I am baffled how it was set for me
22:46.47vontrapphow can you do s/fr(o*)d)/\1/ in sed?
22:47.03Bradipo\(o*\)
22:47.14vontrappit's the \1 that gives me an error
22:47.28BradipoHow are you calling it?
22:47.39vontrappsed -e 's (.*)/(.*)/(.*) \2-\0-\1 '
22:47.52BradipoUsing spaces instead of / ?
22:47.56vontrappsi
22:48.22vontrappit actually should be \3-\1-\2 but when i got the error on \3 i thought maybe it indexed from 0
22:48.26BradipoWhat is \0 supposed to be?
22:49.27Bradiposed -e 's \(.*\)/\(.*\)/\(.*\) \3-\1-\2 '
22:49.44vontrappzero was an attempt to fix the percieved out of index
22:49.52vontrappthat's actually what i tried first
22:49.54BradipoRight.
22:49.58BradipoWell, that works for me...
22:50.23vontrappsed: -e expression #1, char 26: invalid reference \3 on `s' command's RHS
22:50.38BradipoHmm.
22:50.48BradipoMaybe its being greedy?
22:51.10Bradipo# sed -e 's \(.*\)/\(.*\)/\(.*\) \3-\1-\2 '
22:51.13Bradipo3/1/2
22:51.14Bradipo2-3-1
22:51.25vontrappdoes sed honor the [range]{2} syntax?
22:51.27BradipoThat's what I get.
22:51.29BradipoYeah.
22:51.41BradipoI believe to.
22:52.01BradipoMight have to escape that too: [range]\{2\}
22:52.26vontrapp<PROTECTED>
22:52.29vontrappsame error
22:52.49BradipoAre you forgetting to escape the ()?
22:52.55BradipoOr does your version of sed not require that...
22:53.20vontrappi thought you only had to escape from bash?
22:53.21BradipoAnd yo uare missing a (
22:53.30BradipoAnd yo uare missing a )
22:53.42BradipoAnd my space bar is going berzerk. :-)
22:56.21Bradiposed -e 's \([0-9]\{2\}\)/\([0-9]\{2\}\)/\([0-9]\{4\}\) \3-\1-\2 '
22:56.24BradipoThat works for me.
22:56.36vontrappgosh, too much escaping
22:56.37BradipoAnd no, the escaping isn't for bash.
22:56.43vontrappwhy does sed require those escapes?
22:56.59Bradipo() and {} are probably special.
22:57.17BradipoYou could test it out by putting the commands in a script file instead of command line.
22:57.27Bradiposed -f test.sed < input
22:57.38BradipoInstead of sed -e '...'
22:57.43dataw0lf|wthey escaping is because you're escaping special characters.
22:57.56dataw0lf|wah, Bradipo already said it.
22:58.39vontrappfinally
22:58.46vontrappcat Mountain.txt | cut -f 19,1 | grep / | sed -e 's \([0-9]*\)/\(.*\)/\(.*\) \3-\1-\2 ' | perl -ne 'chomp; ($space, $date) = split /\t/, $_; print "update resident_space set movein_date=$date where spacenum=$space\n";'
22:58.51vontrappis the whole command
22:59.14BradipoNice.
22:59.15vontrappand add a "> update.sql"
22:59.20vontrapp:)
23:00.35Bradipopipes are such an integral part of *nix.
23:00.43BradipoOne of the reasons why I can't stand working on Windows.
23:01.00BradipoAside from the complete lack of good command line utilities, or much less a command line.
23:01.03dataw0lf|wso true.
23:01.32BradipoThe command line and the pipe allow you to expand and think outside of the box.
23:02.31dataw0lf|walong with i/o redirection
23:02.41BradipoIndeed.
23:03.24dataw0lf|wI always have a hard time understanding how people can do anything truly technical on a Windows box, or even put up with it.
23:05.55vontrapphaha, to make it even better, i put on the end instead of > update.sql i put " | ssh root@hoth ' cat > update.sql'"
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