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| 01:17.16 | Maquis | Newsome: is the monsters lab down??? |
| 01:19.41 | Newsome | doesn't look like any of them are pinging |
| 01:19.51 | Maquis | yeah... |
| 01:20.06 | Maquis | and my irssi that was running through screen in there isn't signed on anymore |
| 01:20.20 | Maquis | i keep it on basilisk |
| 01:21.12 | Maquis | (and yes, i'm good and keep it niced and all that stuff... ) :) |
| 01:21.38 | Maquis | through some weird miracle, i still haven't even gotten an official "warning"... :) |
| 01:22.06 | Maquis | something to do with the distinctions that come from carefully studying lab rules and knowing the letter of the law or something.... :) |
| 01:23.39 | Newsome | and not really causing a problem |
| 01:23.49 | Maquis | meh... :) |
| 01:24.38 | Maquis | the problem is that all the great ideas that i get require root |
| 01:24.44 | Maquis | and so.... |
| 01:29.25 | Maquis | anybody here know anything about "Lenovo"??? it's apparently some company that is acquiring IBM's PC Division... |
| 01:29.43 | Maquis | not quite sure whether that's good, bad, etc... |
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| 01:49.36 | fugln | anybody in here have the hhgg text adventure game they'd be willing to share? |
| 01:49.39 | fugln | :) |
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| 02:51.02 | mheath | Anyone other than me experience problems with gmail in the last couple of days? |
| 02:51.16 | mheath | I get NO new mail for 2 days |
| 02:51.36 | mheath | Then today....34 new messages, including autoreplys to stuff I submitted yesterday |
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| 02:53.43 | levi-laptop | Woot! I have 1.25G of RAM in my iBook now. :) |
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| 03:01.06 | colera | anyone here going to ep3 in payson |
| 03:01.14 | colera | as listed in the topic of the channel? |
| 03:03.20 | colera | ~seen lars |
| 03:03.22 | ibot | lars <~Lars@pD9EA5602.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 48d 15h 4m 39s ago, saying: 'short1, if i tace my ISDn card out it works'. |
| 03:11.14 | colera | we need to breath some lif into this channel |
| 03:11.33 | tene | Life? Don't talk to me about life. |
| 03:11.37 | tene | ~lart colera |
| 03:12.22 | colera | hey watch where you are pointing that thing |
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| 04:12.39 | tensai | ~seen lars-ut |
| 04:12.41 | ibot | lars-ut <~Lars-UT@67.137.22.94> was last seen on IRC in channel #utah, 10d 5h 39m 1s ago, saying: 'umm... bamboo cuts - a lot.'. |
| 04:13.08 | *** topic/#utah by tensai -> The source for OSS focused discussion in Utah. See sllug.org, plug.org, uug.byu.edu, uvlug.org, fslc.usu.edu, nupm.org, utwaa.org, oalug.com. See planetutah.adelantellc.com for aggregate feeds. | SW:EP3 midnight showing in Payson. see herlo.org or ask Lars-UT | Looking for a sysadmin job? Know someone who is? Contact hans |
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| 05:05.39 | levi-laptop | Yo. |
| 05:27.49 | colera | hey |
| 05:27.51 | colera | anyone here |
| 05:27.58 | levi-laptop | I am. |
| 05:28.02 | colera | hi |
| 05:28.24 | colera | you going to star wars in payson? |
| 05:28.47 | levi-laptop | Not planning on it. |
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| 07:21.18 | levi-laptop | Eh? |
| 07:21.32 | bucky | you up? |
| 07:21.35 | bucky | LOL |
| 07:21.52 | bucky | Wanda the Fish says: Microsoft Zen - Become one with the blue screen. |
| 07:22.16 | bucky | Wanda the Fish says: Windows contains FAT. Use Linux -- you wont ever have to worry about your weight. |
| 07:22.35 | bucky | Wanda the Fish says: BOFH Excuse #112: The monitor is plugged into the serial port |
| 07:22.36 | levi-laptop | I'm about to go to bed. |
| 07:22.45 | levi-laptop | Just got some stuff updated on my lisp blog. |
| 07:22.51 | bucky | i'm just playing with this script |
| 07:22.57 | bucky | have a good night |
| 07:23.08 | bucky | url ? |
| 07:23.31 | levi-laptop | http://lifeoflevi.com/lisp/ |
| 07:23.44 | bucky | levi-laptop, this is my amd64.. bookmarked |
| 07:23.55 | levi-laptop | New one? |
| 07:24.20 | bucky | yep |
| 07:24.32 | bucky | kind of |
| 07:24.35 | levi-laptop | Nice. I just got a 1gig stick of ram for my iBook. |
| 07:24.38 | levi-laptop | G'night! |
| 07:24.47 | bucky | nite |
| 07:25.32 | bucky | Wanda the Fish says: grasshopotomaus: A creature that can leap to tremendous heights... once. |
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| 07:43.47 | Newsome | wonder what his problem was |
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| 14:16.56 | levi-laptop | Greetings, #utahns. |
| 14:22.35 | dataw0lf|w | anyone know how to clear iwlist's cache and/or stop it from caching off the top of their head? |
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| 15:10.50 | vontrapp | dataw0lf|w: you have ndiswrapper? |
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| 15:17.10 | vontrapp | dataw0lf|w: i have problems with that, but using ndiswrapper, i just assumed it was driver/card issues and not iwlist itself doing any caching (as the problem is intermittent) |
| 15:17.28 | vontrapp | so i just unload and reload the module when it happens |
| 15:21.51 | goozbach | http://www.pvponline.com/archive/2005/pvp20050510.gif |
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| 15:29.21 | Uncle_Jesse | so, is it worth making more money to switch from MP to PHP? |
| 15:29.56 | goozbach | jayce: http://www.pvponline.com/archive/2005/pvp20050510.gif |
| 15:30.23 | Jayce^ | nope |
| 15:30.37 | vontrapp | anyone using firefox < 1.0.2 ? |
| 15:30.45 | vontrapp | http://secunia.com/mozilla_products_arbitrary_memory_exposure_test/ |
| 15:30.47 | Jayce^ | gooz, oh yeah, pvp is in my daily read list :) |
| 15:33.02 | vontrapp | spoof on luke/vader |
| 15:33.24 | Newsome | right... |
| 15:34.49 | vontrapp | each phrase has a correlation to a luke/vader confrontation or dialogue |
| 15:35.12 | vontrapp | like when luke tries to save vader and he says it's too late for him |
| 15:36.13 | Newsome | Yeah, caught that. It just wasn't funny, though. |
| 15:36.23 | bonez41 | what might it mean if I am running 2.4.18 and the gui, X11, gnome 2 et al work fine..but if I apt-get install 2.6.7 kernel and boot up...the gui won't load ...cant run gdm ... |
| 15:36.50 | bonez41 | any suggestions? I run xf86config... and try to set it that way....but nothing I do helps to allow gdm to load up... |
| 15:37.22 | vontrapp | bonez41: what kind of video card? |
| 15:37.23 | goozbach | it could be that your graphics card module was compiled against the earlier kernel |
| 15:37.28 | bonez41 | Dukes of Hazzard? a movie? or revival of the old tv show? |
| 15:37.35 | Jayce^ | movie... |
| 15:37.53 | bonez41 | vontrapp, lspci tells me the video is : 0000:00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801BA/BAM AC'97 Audio (rev 01 |
| 15:38.07 | bonez41 | vontrapp, unknown device 000f |
| 15:38.55 | vontrapp | is it nvidia? |
| 15:39.07 | bonez41 | vontrapp, I am an idiot....that's the sound card on the motherboard.... |
| 15:39.16 | bonez41 | it's a compaq deskpro en...all integrated... |
| 15:40.08 | vontrapp | bonez41: if it's an nvidia card, you would have to reinstall the drivers for the new kernel |
| 15:40.14 | bonez41 | video is 0000:00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corp. 82815 CGC [Chipset Graphics Controller] (rev 02) (prog-if 00 [VGA]) |
| 15:40.18 | bonez41 | that's the video... |
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| 15:40.39 | bonez41 | vontrapp, sorry, to confuse you.. |
| 15:40.45 | vontrapp | hmm, i don't know then |
| 15:41.57 | JoshH | bonez41: stop GDM and see if just startx works, if not, see the error |
| 15:42.33 | bonez41 | JoshH, it tells me the erros..says it can't find the screens it needs..... |
| 15:42.50 | JoshH | there should be another, more informative error above the "no screens found" part. |
| 15:43.12 | bonez41 | is there a log file I could look in to check for what errors are produced without having shutdown and reboot again? |
| 15:43.25 | bonez41 | where do I look for the error , which log? |
| 15:43.40 | JoshH | yes /var/log/XFree86.0.log |
| 15:43.56 | JoshH | if you have xorg it will be somethign similar |
| 15:44.57 | dataw0lf|w | Xorg.0.log |
| 15:53.04 | bonez41 | JoshH, ok, I have that open now...XFree86.0.log...does that file log every boot cycle, regardless of which kernel is booted up? just in sequence of time? |
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| 15:53.56 | JoshH | it logs what happens when X starts or tries to start. |
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| 15:55.39 | bonez41 | JoshH, ok, I found the log for 8 may when I last tried to boot 2.6.7...can I paste some of it in #flood and have you take a look? |
| 15:55.57 | dataw0lf|w | hmm. |
| 15:56.02 | JoshH | sure |
| 15:56.08 | dataw0lf|w | Advice: don't drink a six pack of mountain dew before 10 am. |
| 15:56.14 | dataw0lf|w | my legs won't stop moving. |
| 15:56.30 | goozbach | bah |
| 15:56.33 | Jayce^ | amateur :) |
| 15:56.51 | Jayce^ | goozbach, you going to teach him the grapefruit trick? |
| 15:56.53 | goozbach | yesterday I had three bottles of bawls and two grapefruit by then |
| 15:57.05 | dataw0lf|w | I had a grand slam at Denny's. |
| 15:57.11 | dataw0lf|w | mmm. |
| 15:57.13 | dataw0lf|w | Denny's. |
| 15:57.15 | goozbach | six pack?!?!? pffff |
| 15:57.32 | goozbach | that's me just about getting started |
| 15:57.34 | JoshH | fungus goes through at least 2 12 packs of coke a day |
| 15:57.50 | goozbach | sounds like a pretty good breakfast though |
| 15:57.51 | JoshH | you should see his desk, he has a huge pyramid of cans |
| 15:58.04 | Jayce^ | datawolf|w, goozbach has 'issues' with caffeine :) |
| 15:58.05 | dataw0lf|w | I go through about a can of mt dew every hour.. usually. |
| 15:58.11 | dataw0lf|w | looks like I'm cutting it down to 30 minutes. |
| 15:59.24 | dataw0lf|w | time to jack my heart rate up a bit more and have a smoke. |
| 15:59.49 | Jayce^ | http://www.josephhall.com/?view=25 |
| 15:59.55 | Jayce^ | read that about caffeine :) |
| 16:00.24 | goozbach | Jayce^: I do not! |
| 16:00.31 | goozbach | I can quit whenever I want |
| 16:11.07 | dataw0lf|w | salut |
| 16:11.35 | Uncle_Jesse | caffeine give me heart burn |
| 16:11.38 | Uncle_Jesse | gives |
| 16:11.56 | xilch|w | ... and takes usynic with him |
| 16:12.17 | Uncle_Jesse | causes my heart to skip beats too |
| 16:13.18 | goozbach | I've only had chest pains from caffiene once |
| 16:13.28 | goozbach | it was after my 12th bottle of bawls |
| 16:19.26 | goozbach | note to self |
| 16:19.42 | goozbach | to impress germaphobes don't do 'gross' things |
| 16:19.50 | goozbach | they will be less willing to kiss you. |
| 16:20.28 | usynic | lol |
| 16:20.33 | usynic | genius right there. |
| 16:20.34 | xilch|w | goozbach: 12 bottles? In how much time? |
| 16:23.09 | goozbach | 6hours |
| 16:24.14 | xilch|w | goozbach: lol - yeah, you should have been having chest pains |
| 16:24.18 | levi-laptop | Sweet, I need to get me some unsweetened chocolate and grapefruit juice. |
| 16:24.33 | levi-laptop | And they need to restock the @#%@ Mt. Dew! |
| 16:24.55 | goozbach | levi-laptop: my sentiments exactly |
| 16:25.29 | JoshH | i used to drink about 19 mountain dews a day when i was about 14, but for some reason i dont like it too much these days. |
| 16:25.39 | JoshH | these days im a wild cherry pepsi man |
| 16:25.46 | JoshH | or dr. pepper |
| 16:25.48 | JoshH | or cherry coke |
| 16:25.59 | levi-laptop | I had a vanilla coke earlier. |
| 16:26.04 | levi-laptop | Maybe it's time for a cherry one. |
| 16:26.23 | goozbach | fueled by ramen++ |
| 16:26.45 | JoshH | i could go for some ramen right now |
| 16:26.56 | Uncle_Jesse | JoshH: or a cherry-vanilla Dr. Pepper |
| 16:27.04 | JoshH | i had one of those for the first time on sunday |
| 16:27.11 | JoshH | it was decent, but it didnt blow me away. |
| 16:27.14 | Uncle_Jesse | I've actually never had one but they look very good |
| 16:27.24 | neybar | mmm Ramen |
| 16:27.47 | JoshH | ramen, kraft mac and cheese, ham and cheese croissant pockets, and tonys frozen pizzas are the staples of my diet |
| 16:28.01 | Uncle_Jesse | lol |
| 16:28.13 | Uncle_Jesse | marie calendar is my staple |
| 16:28.29 | neybar | cup-0-noodles <-- now that is a nasty imitation of ramen |
| 16:28.31 | JoshH | well, those are just the staples from the grocery store |
| 16:28.49 | JoshH | my real staples are barbacoa, cafe rio, and apollo burgers |
| 16:29.17 | JoshH | although ive actually made an effort to eat healthier lately |
| 16:29.28 | JoshH | i just dont want to die of a heart attack when im 35 |
| 16:34.39 | bigdog_ut | apollo burgers |
| 16:34.44 | bigdog_ut | and chinese food |
| 16:35.10 | hans | mm, gyro |
| 16:35.15 | bigdog_ut | oh yeah |
| 16:35.19 | JoshH | i cant stand gyros, that sauce just makes me gag |
| 16:35.30 | bigdog_ut | they are so good |
| 16:35.53 | JoshH | im actually a pretty picky eater though. |
| 16:35.58 | bigdog_ut | today though is mongolian bbq |
| 16:36.04 | dataw0lf|w | mmmm gyro |
| 16:36.39 | goozbach | today is pb&j for me |
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| 16:38.08 | hans | man, that sauce is the absolute reason why cucumbers were created. then someone thought up pickles and that was ok too. the real trouble started when people started eating cucumbers plain |
| 16:38.39 | JoshH | i despise cucumbers, and pickles |
| 16:38.48 | JoshH | in any form |
| 16:39.12 | RyanE | Anyone like Will Farrell? Anyone want two tickets to his latest movie premier tonight? http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0384642/ |
| 16:39.32 | levi-laptop | I love cucumbers and hate pickles. |
| 16:39.49 | RyanE | love pickles, ignore cucumbers |
| 16:39.51 | JoshH | i honestly cannot fathom why anyone would put pickles on a burger. |
| 16:40.15 | levi-laptop | I can't fathom why anyone would put a pickle in their mouth. |
| 16:40.20 | hans | ~lynch levi-laptop |
| 16:40.48 | dataw0lf|w | I'm hungry, I'll take all of your leftovers, kthnx. |
| 16:41.39 | goozbach | RyanE: I may be interested |
| 16:41.52 | tene | on both points |
| 16:42.03 | hans | ~eat pickles |
| 16:42.04 | ibot | ACTION eats pickles and falls over dead |
| 16:42.12 | tene | hehe |
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| 16:43.44 | Hhhhh | hello |
| 16:43.53 | tene | heya |
| 16:43.58 | goozbach | howdy |
| 16:44.17 | goozbach | ~say hi to Hhhhh |
| 16:44.19 | ibot | hi to Hhhhh |
| 16:44.52 | levi-laptop | I thought I was the only one who hated pickles. Yay, I'm not alone anymore! |
| 16:46.05 | Jayce^ | levi-laptop, you're not alone |
| 16:46.19 | Jayce^ | at least for dill pickles |
| 16:49.30 | tapH20guru | there's something fundamentally wrong with eating things soaked in vineager |
| 16:49.50 | tapH20guru | or lye... ie: lutefisk |
| 16:49.55 | tene | onions are good. |
| 16:50.01 | tene | tomatos, no |
| 16:50.06 | Jayce^ | tapH20guru, oh yeah on the lutefisk |
| 16:50.12 | goozbach | hmmm pickles |
| 16:50.13 | tapH20guru | lol |
| 16:50.22 | levi-laptop | Oddly, I love tomatoes. I also love balsalmic vinegar, and vinegary salad dressings. |
| 16:50.25 | Jayce^ | town I grew up in was 'little norway'.. had an annual lutefisk eating contest |
| 16:50.45 | tapH20guru | Jayce^: where were you at? somewhere in MN i guess? |
| 16:50.57 | Jayce^ | no, near Seattle |
| 16:51.05 | Jayce^ | the local area was a natural fjord |
| 16:51.12 | tapH20guru | ah |
| 16:51.31 | tapH20guru | i live in MN for a couple years... lutefisk is insane |
| 16:51.32 | Jayce^ | most my friends had names with things like 'kj' in them |
| 16:51.49 | Jayce^ | and the entrance sign was in norweigan |
| 16:52.02 | vontrapp | RyanE: free tickets? |
| 16:52.17 | tapH20guru | lol |
| 16:52.31 | RyanE | gooz already claimed |
| 16:52.42 | RyanE | if he decides he doesn't want 'em, he can give you the info. |
| 16:53.00 | Jayce^ | gooz and ryanE, I should show you how to make firecracker pickled carrots |
| 16:53.03 | tapH20guru | i mean lye is a poison for goodness sake |
| 16:53.23 | Jayce^ | puts hair on your chest |
| 16:53.27 | Jayce^ | can take it off too :) |
| 16:53.40 | goozbach | heh |
| 16:53.40 | tapH20guru | lol |
| 16:54.34 | Jayce^ | lutefisk is obviously something that was originally a dare between vikings that got overly bored in the long winter |
| 16:55.27 | levi-laptop | Water is poisonous if you drink too much. ;) |
| 16:55.50 | Jayce^ | just eat some salt with it |
| 16:56.19 | tensai | no, no. salt is full of chlorine which is also deadly |
| 16:56.36 | Jayce^ | not real salt :) |
| 16:56.49 | Jayce^ | mmm, chlorine gas |
| 16:57.26 | Jayce^ | real men don't buy salt, they just lick at some halite :) |
| 16:57.37 | goozbach | oh yeah |
| 16:57.53 | goozbach | I was gonna donate blood but they told me it has too much radium in it. |
| 16:59.51 | tapH20guru | "Most Scottish quisine is based on a dare." |
| 17:01.35 | *** part/#utah RyanE (~RyanE@rberick.dsl.xmission.com) |
| 17:05.44 | Hhhhh | eating tomatoes is 100 times better than having a Jamba Juice |
| 17:05.57 | Hhhhh | Jamba Juice is the biggest scam ever perpretated at BYU |
| 17:06.33 | Hhhhh | it's extremely unhealthy but people think it is not |
| 17:06.55 | Hhhhh | because it has fruit, but that doesn't mean anything |
| 17:07.18 | tene | what's unhealthy about it? |
| 17:10.14 | Hhhhh | lots of sugar |
| 17:10.29 | Hhhhh | a subway sub is 100 times better than a Jamba Juice smoothy |
| 17:11.12 | Hhhhh | well, rectification: jamba juice is the second biggest scam ever perpretated at BYU |
| 17:11.16 | mrpull | Jared... is that you? |
| 17:11.19 | Hhhhh | the bookstore is #1 |
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| 17:14.44 | mrpull | wow. someone wedged asterisk on a wrt54g |
| 17:14.46 | mrpull | that is cool |
| 17:19.45 | tensai | mrpull: that's awesome. link please |
| 17:20.17 | Uncle_Jesse | any of yall installed mod_perl 2 on OS X? |
| 17:20.41 | Hhhhh | OMG!!!!! |
| 17:20.50 | mrpull | http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:selrdDvQz5IJ:lestblood.imagodirt.net/archives/106-Asterisk-on-OpenWRT-part-2.html+&hl=en |
| 17:20.54 | Hhhhh | anybody has checked out the new UT2007 stuff? |
| 17:21.04 | Hhhhh | it's amazing |
| 17:21.15 | mrpull | 2007? I 2003 doesn't even run on my pc :) |
| 17:21.23 | mrpull | or whatever the last version I bought |
| 17:21.31 | tensai | mrpull: thanks. I might just give that a try. |
| 17:21.38 | mrpull | sounds like fun. |
| 17:21.49 | Hhhhh | you'll need a 6800 at least to run 2007 |
| 17:22.15 | Uncle_Jesse | They need to get a version for WRT54G that has Dan's Guardian on it |
| 17:22.58 | goozbach | is the ability for women to turn anything you say against you some sort of bred in trait? |
| 17:23.22 | tene | ... what do you mean? |
| 17:23.23 | dataw0lf|w | goozbach: nah, hormonal. |
| 17:23.26 | dataw0lf|w | estrogen. |
| 17:23.34 | dataw0lf|w | it's like man's kryptonite. |
| 17:23.35 | dataw0lf|w | but worse. |
| 17:23.35 | tene | clarify "turn against you"? |
| 17:24.16 | goozbach | I say something along the lines of "I wanted to go see this movie because of all the people who aren't already going, you'd enjoy it the most" |
| 17:24.38 | goozbach | she takes it to mean "You are a last resort. congratulations!" |
| 17:25.18 | tene | what did you say exactly? |
| 17:26.09 | goozbach | (11:17:41) blah blah blah: of all the other people I'd go with, they're all going |
| 17:26.10 | goozbach | (11:17:45) blah blah blah: already |
| 17:27.00 | mrpull | goozbach: I'll take the girl's side on this one... |
| 17:27.10 | mrpull | don't make it more complicated than you need to.... |
| 17:27.15 | tene | yeah... |
| 17:27.19 | mrpull | just say "i'd like to go with you" |
| 17:27.23 | mrpull | "we'll have fun" |
| 17:27.46 | tene | that's exactly what it sounds like to me. |
| 17:28.09 | tene | "Everyone else I'd consider going with is already going." |
| 17:28.42 | goozbach | we all knew that however |
| 17:29.20 | goozbach | ~goozbach |
| 17:29.21 | ibot | [goozbach] a future que-ball. easier to catch than a retarted sasquatch |
| 17:29.51 | dataw0lf|w | jeez, what type of men are you guys. |
| 17:29.56 | dataw0lf|w | I got your back goozbach. |
| 17:30.05 | mrpull | married? |
| 17:30.29 | dataw0lf|w | see, you've proven my point. you're already beaten into submission. |
| 17:30.40 | mrpull | and we like it |
| 17:30.51 | dataw0lf|w | I bet you do. |
| 17:30.53 | tene | dataw0lf|w: the kind that's manly enough to admit when we make mistakes instead of blaming it on women. |
| 17:31.14 | dataw0lf|w | tene: because women continuously blow things out of proportion? |
| 17:31.46 | dataw0lf|w | if my girlfriend makes a 'grammatical mistake' I don't get angry, or really even notice. |
| 17:32.02 | dataw0lf|w | because I know what she means. |
| 17:32.09 | tene | you mean "because different people consider different things to be important"? |
| 17:32.42 | tene | and that it's important to consider that when interacting with them? |
| 17:33.16 | dataw0lf|w | You obviously have to consider alot when dealing with ANYONE. But being petty doesn't solve anything. |
| 17:33.20 | dataw0lf|w | Which is what you're describing. |
| 17:33.22 | dataw0lf|w | Being petty. |
| 17:33.36 | dataw0lf|w | And argumentative. |
| 17:35.34 | Uncle_Jesse | I do love my wife though :-) |
| 17:35.41 | goozbach | _that_ is what I'm talking about |
| 17:35.52 | goozbach | guarding your words sucks |
| 17:35.52 | dataw0lf|w | if they do take offense, it's most likely some underlying problem. Rather than the actual comment. |
| 17:36.06 | tene | I agree completely. |
| 17:36.09 | dataw0lf|w | that's what a relationship is supposedly supposed to be about. Openess. |
| 17:36.27 | Uncle_Jesse | I know the real world isn't like this, but I've always taken it that if a person gets offended, it is their problem, not mine |
| 17:36.45 | Uncle_Jesse | as long as my intentions were right and good |
| 17:36.51 | dataw0lf|w | I watch what I say in this channel more than I do in real life. |
| 17:37.07 | Uncle_Jesse | lol |
| 17:37.23 | vontrapp | some quote i heard once, "If you take offense when none was intended, you're a fool. If you take offense when it is intended, you're a fool" |
| 17:37.42 | Uncle_Jesse | I could never apply my advice to my relationship with my wife though if our relationship were to work |
| 17:37.57 | Uncle_Jesse | vontrapp: I like that one |
| 17:40.01 | tene | "blowing thigns out of proportion" indicates that there really is an issue, but that you just consider it relatively minor. |
| 17:41.01 | dataw0lf|w | Ok, 1) I think we all realize what goozbach's intent in his statement was 2) Why can't she? A: she's a woman. |
| 17:41.38 | mrpull | oh man... goozbach: was this an invitation for a date? |
| 17:41.51 | mrpull | if so, that is piss poor execution |
| 17:42.04 | goozbach | I refuse to answer on the grounds that I'm an idiot |
| 17:42.07 | Jayce^ | mrpull, now you know why he's still single |
| 17:42.13 | goozbach | the 42nd ammendment |
| 17:42.24 | mrpull | but I still don't know about the alpine garrison chicks :) |
| 17:42.34 | Jayce^ | oh yeah, gooz, tell that story :) |
| 17:42.51 | dataw0lf|w | ... |
| 17:42.59 | dataw0lf|w | goozbach: an invitation to a date?? |
| 17:43.00 | mrpull | goozbach: I'm sorry for piling on. We're just having fun at your expense. |
| 17:43.07 | dataw0lf|w | goozbach: .... |
| 17:43.15 | dataw0lf|w | goozbach: you're on your own, man. |
| 17:43.34 | dataw0lf|w | good luck fixing that one. |
| 17:44.01 | Uncle_Jesse | goozbach: we can get our wives to have a chat with her that all men are like that :-) |
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| 17:45.40 | goozbach | dataw0lf|w: not on the invitation to the date |
| 17:45.55 | goozbach | but the explaination of the reason I asked HER |
| 17:46.00 | dataw0lf|w | oh, man. |
| 17:46.17 | dataw0lf|w | jeez, I thought you were talking about your wife or longtime girlfriend. |
| 17:46.47 | tapH20guru | lol |
| 17:47.27 | goozbach | it's just a 'friends' going out sorta thing |
| 17:47.38 | goozbach | not a 'date' date sorta thing |
| 17:49.17 | dataw0lf|w | goozbach: it sounds like her opinion on the situation differs, if she got a bit peeved about your reasoning. |
| 17:49.54 | tapH20guru | yeah.. and imagine that she'll tell you that |
| 17:50.08 | goozbach | bah |
| 17:50.10 | tapH20guru | they want mind readers |
| 17:50.33 | goozbach | I've figured for the last few months that she's been 'fishing' |
| 17:50.56 | tapH20guru | ;) |
| 17:51.26 | tene | In my experience, women just want someone that pays attention and thinks about things. |
| 17:51.28 | dataw0lf|w | sounds like you might've shaken off the hook unintentionally. |
| 17:51.32 | tene | and I don't see how that's unreasonable. |
| 17:51.58 | dataw0lf|w | tene: certainly not unreasonable, but in return they can't be unreasonable about it. |
| 17:52.03 | tapH20guru | lol |
| 17:52.17 | goozbach | damn ladder theory |
| 17:52.17 | tene | that's true. |
| 17:53.21 | tapH20guru | ... can't live with em... can't live without em |
| 17:53.28 | tapH20guru | So true |
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| 17:54.42 | dataw0lf|w | I think guys put up with alot more than we're given credit for. |
| 17:54.58 | dataw0lf|w | God knows I have. |
| 17:55.51 | tapH20guru | lol |
| 17:56.40 | starman | hello all. Does anybody know any good resource on the syntax of zone files for bind 9? |
| 17:57.21 | goozbach | hmm |
| 17:57.35 | goozbach | ~google bind9 zone file syntax |
| 17:57.51 | dataw0lf|w | http://www.zytrax.com/books/dns/ |
| 17:57.55 | goozbach | http://www.bind9.net/manual/bind/9.3.1/Bv9ARM.ch03.html |
| 17:58.30 | starman | thanks. I know how to google. :) just having a hard time finding something worth reading. |
| 17:58.35 | dataw0lf|w | http://www.zytrax.com/books/dns/ |
| 17:58.53 | tapH20guru | the docs that come with bind9 are pretty good |
| 17:59.08 | starman | thanks. I'll give all those links a shot. |
| 17:59.32 | starman | I have the ns up and running, just adding a few extra zones has been a little painful. have the main one up and going. |
| 18:00.23 | hans | goozbach: eh, it was a mistake. if she's worth caring about it's probably not a fatal mistake. Some minor groveling and a flower or two would patch it up nicely. |
| 18:00.42 | hans | if that doesn't work, consider it lucky you found out so soon. |
| 18:00.51 | dataw0lf|w | agreed. |
| 18:01.08 | goozbach | seriously I'm blowing it out of porprotion |
| 18:01.14 | mrpull | so are we :) |
| 18:01.30 | hans | it's not every day we get to give dating advice, you know. |
| 18:02.13 | goozbach | hans: what channel have you been listening to? |
| 18:02.38 | goozbach | I'm probally not gonna be getting a kiss out of this anyway |
| 18:02.52 | goozbach | stinkin germophope |
| 18:03.08 | dataw0lf|w | heh. |
| 18:03.17 | dataw0lf|w | man, I love Utah. |
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| 18:04.01 | dataw0lf|w | you guys sometimes make me feel like my soul is in dire jeopardy, though. |
| 18:04.58 | tapH20guru | lol |
| 18:11.21 | mrpull | tapH20guru: where does the handle come from? The other night I went to a business dinner and we spent 30 dollars on water for 6 of us :) |
| 18:16.59 | tapH20guru | a list of cool band names I once had |
| 18:17.15 | mrpull | works for me |
| 18:17.19 | tapH20guru | plus, it's better the the l33t handle I had in high-school: SPATula |
| 18:17.56 | Lars-UT | A fellow that moved into my former residence used to be in a band with what I thought was a cool name... |
| 18:18.02 | Lars-UT | Sunfall Festival |
| 18:18.14 | tapH20guru | hey - those guys were cool... |
| 18:18.33 | Lars-UT | He was the bass player, George. |
| 18:18.49 | tapH20guru | "I walked away" is good |
| 18:18.58 | tapH20guru | didn't it win some online award or something? |
| 18:19.21 | Lars-UT | Not sure - He started a record company - Ground Loop Records. |
| 18:20.05 | Lars-UT | Speaking of music, TMBG is coming to Springvilee July 8 |
| 18:20.19 | Lars-UT | Springvilee = Springville |
| 18:20.34 | Lars-UT | TMBG = They Might Be Giants |
| 18:21.12 | tapH20guru | i was a little disappointed when I saw TMBG on a kid's TV show |
| 18:21.34 | Lars-UT | Really? They've released some great kids songs |
| 18:21.56 | Lars-UT | "I Am Not Your Broom" is a good one |
| 18:22.28 | Lars-UT | http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000068C97/103-3634737-6453438?v=glance |
| 18:22.42 | tapH20guru | http://disney.go.com/disneyrecords/special/disneysound/tmbg.html |
| 18:29.07 | Uncle_Jesse | it is a relief to hear them instead of the other stuff my kids watch |
| 18:29.20 | Jayce^ | yeah, their new album is kinda lame imho |
| 18:29.44 | Lars-UT | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:30.07 | Lars-UT | Try "NO!" - it is closer to their orignal style, but still a kid's album. |
| 18:30.13 | Lars-UT | Great roadtrip music |
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| 18:43.40 | Uncle_Jesse | Imagine Higly town heros without TMBG though |
| 18:44.19 | Uncle_Jesse | My favorite is REM singing "Furry Happy Monsters" on Sesame Street |
| 18:54.21 | neybar | that was a good one |
| 19:02.29 | goozbach | "whiney sappy people" is my favoritie |
| 19:04.49 | tapH20guru | lol |
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| 20:20.08 | vontrapp | what's with Lars-UT's exit message with all them countries? |
| 20:20.40 | Bradipo | Maybe he is quitting all of them? |
| 20:20.53 | tapH20guru | lol |
| 20:20.54 | Bradipo | Not only that, but the "" are goofed up. |
| 20:21.56 | vontrapp | and is Mongolia Norway a country? |
| 20:23.54 | vontrapp | stinking dmv regulations |
| 20:24.14 | vontrapp | why can't we just all drive cars that will fall apart in the passing lane and blow up in intersections? |
| 20:25.25 | Bradipo | Why do we need the DMV? Why do we need drivers licenses? |
| 20:25.49 | vontrapp | Why do we need traffic lights? |
| 20:25.52 | Bradipo | vontrapp: Having problems with your Festiva? |
| 20:26.10 | vontrapp | got safety inspection today |
| 20:26.10 | mrpull | we need the DMV to find the illegal aliens |
| 20:26.19 | vontrapp | lol |
| 20:26.28 | mrpull | or at least to permit them to vote |
| 20:26.29 | vontrapp | was expecting that the parking brake would probably fail |
| 20:26.33 | Bradipo | Haha, then shouldn't we fire them for not doing their job? |
| 20:26.44 | vontrapp | but then i smacked in the face with tie-rod end and exhaust problems |
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| 20:27.24 | vontrapp | my exhaust pipe is prettu much rusted out |
| 20:27.46 | vontrapp | don't know exactly what's going on with the tie-rod yet |
| 20:29.01 | Bradipo | I'm surprised that they even checked the tie-rod. |
| 20:29.25 | vontrapp | they jiggle the wheel and if it jiggles to much they say it's the tie-rod |
| 20:29.42 | Uncle_Jesse | For some reason I always get busted on the tie rod |
| 20:30.21 | spr | "The sun is shining..." |
| 20:30.27 | Uncle_Jesse | I mean, who needs a tie-rod anyway? |
| 20:30.33 | vontrapp | haha |
| 20:30.54 | vontrapp | maybe one, but two? i mean, come on! |
| 20:31.46 | mrpull | any Pix admins in the house? |
| 20:31.54 | mrpull | if there is an interface without an access-group statement...what is the behavior? |
| 20:31.59 | mrpull | implied deny? |
| 20:33.07 | mrpull | nm... gotta run |
| 20:43.46 | vontrapp | hmm, anything like dirname but that will give you the filename instead of the dirname |
| 20:44.14 | vontrapp | or more specifically i want to get everything after the last '/' from pwd |
| 20:44.39 | vontrapp | i could easily grep or sed it but if there's alread a bash command... |
| 20:44.48 | vontrapp | ~lart fingers |
| 20:46.52 | Bradipo | vontrapp: You can put it in a variable and use either % or ##. |
| 20:47.00 | Bradipo | I can't ever remember which does what without reading the man page. |
| 20:47.39 | Bradipo | echo ${PWD##*/} |
| 20:47.41 | Bradipo | How about that? |
| 20:48.16 | vontrapp | works like a charm, thx! |
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| 21:24.01 | scott | emusic offers 100 free mp3s, but I can't even find one that I'd like to have--their selection is so limited to the worst of indie music |
| 21:25.59 | levi-laptop | I got lots of stuff from emusic that I liked. |
| 21:26.40 | levi-laptop | They had most of the Pixies catalog while I was subscribed. |
| 21:27.06 | levi-laptop | Some good Yo La Tengo stuff, too, IIRC. |
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| 21:32.10 | scott | I already have all the yo la tengo stuff from back when emusic was a monthly subscription |
| 21:39.44 | scott | nice, my wireless card snuck through ebay at 22.50 while an identical one ended at the same time for 31$ |
| 21:41.31 | vontrapp | what kind of card? |
| 21:48.58 | hans | silicon. |
| 21:50.23 | scott | vontrapp: atheros |
| 21:57.01 | hans | cool, a 20Q orb is only like $10 |
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| 22:18.28 | usynic | anyone good at creating icons, etc ? |
| 22:18.45 | usynic | I'm graphically challenged, and need a few for an opensource app I'm writing. |
| 22:19.00 | dataw0lf|w | jbother? |
| 22:19.05 | usynic | oui |
| 22:19.10 | dataw0lf|w | binky can't do it? |
| 22:19.38 | usynic | she probably could... but she seems pretty swamped when it comes to graphics. |
| 22:19.51 | usynic | ie. everyone wants graphics, no one wants to pay. |
| 22:20.01 | dataw0lf|w | jea. that's about the gist of it. |
| 22:21.00 | hans | usynic: so offer to pay |
| 22:21.45 | dataw0lf|w | hans: how many open source applications have you written alone where you've paid out of your pocket to get a professional graphic artist? |
| 22:22.05 | hans | dataw0lf|w: does making sourdough bread count/ |
| 22:22.17 | dataw0lf|w | that's what I thought. |
| 22:22.21 | Jayce^ | who needs icons in curses :) |
| 22:22.21 | usynic | hehe. |
| 22:22.32 | hans | pshaw |
| 22:22.46 | hans | dataw0lf|w-- |
| 22:23.16 | dataw0lf|w | don't get cheap because you can't keep up, guy. |
| 22:23.36 | hans | what in the world are you talking about? |
| 22:23.41 | hans | keep up with what? |
| 22:23.53 | dataw0lf|w | exactly. |
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| 22:24.10 | Jayce^ | cube neighbor is listening to brian regan..... it's nice that I can quote every part of it :) |
| 22:24.11 | *** kick/#utah [dataw0lf|w!fugalh@falcon.fugal.net] by hans (keeping up) |
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| 22:24.31 | dataw0lf|w | wtf is that all about? |
| 22:24.55 | Jayce^ | hans has kicked dataw0lf|w from #utah (keeping up) <--- apparently keeping up |
| 22:25.43 | dataw0lf|w | sorry to break it to you, but kicking people isn't 'keeping up'. However, in the interest of your safety, I'll explain keeping up: |
| 22:26.03 | dataw0lf|w | When you break out with a smartass answer to somebody, and you get smacked back into place, you're not keeping up. |
| 22:26.15 | scott | usynic: my roommate is pretty good at photoshop. he might be willing to help out |
| 22:26.17 | dataw0lf|w | just fyi. |
| 22:26.18 | Jayce^ | smartass? |
| 22:26.25 | Jayce^ | how? |
| 22:26.38 | usynic | scott: oh yeah? how do I contact him? |
| 22:26.52 | dataw0lf|w | Who here thought that since synic was asking in the channel for a graphical artist, mentioned not being able to pay, that he could pay. |
| 22:27.00 | hans | usynic: like I was saying, and it may not be worth it, but if you want to stand out from the crowd then offer compensation |
| 22:27.23 | Jayce^ | dataw0lf|w so offer alternative compensation |
| 22:27.30 | Jayce^ | as hans demonstrated |
| 22:27.31 | hans | I did that once for an icon (traded surdough bread which he happened to be particularly fond of) and it worked out great. |
| 22:28.09 | Jayce^ | I think data is unawares of the great bread/cooking discussions of #utah |
| 22:28.17 | dataw0lf|w | Apparently I am. |
| 22:28.19 | JoshH | find a graphic artist who works for beer. |
| 22:28.28 | dataw0lf|w | JoshH: dime a dozen. |
| 22:28.34 | dataw0lf|w | on that note, ask influx, usynic. |
| 22:28.38 | JoshH | exactly. :) |
| 22:28.38 | dataw0lf|w | he does that kind of work. |
| 22:28.57 | hans | if you're a bad artist but you are good enough to get an idea on paper, give them that to go with. I'm no graphic artist but I understand that helps |
| 22:29.11 | bucky | usynic, do you want to make a logo? |
| 22:29.23 | dataw0lf|w | I think he has a logo. |
| 22:29.26 | dataw0lf|w | he just needs icons. |
| 22:29.26 | usynic | I have a logo, luckily. It's just a few icons |
| 22:29.29 | usynic | right. |
| 22:29.35 | bucky | http://software.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=05/04/29/1358220&from=rss |
| 22:29.54 | bucky | is a howto use imagemagick from the command line to do such things |
| 22:30.05 | dataw0lf|w | I think he's talking about toolbar stuff. |
| 22:30.09 | dataw0lf|w | not resizing the logo. |
| 22:30.25 | usynic | dataw0lf|w: you would be correct. |
| 22:30.29 | dataw0lf|w | I always am. |
| 22:30.37 | dataw0lf|w | ok, work over, play begins. |
| 22:30.38 | bucky | the article is not about resizing |
| 22:30.47 | dataw0lf|w | it's about creating 'icons', correct? |
| 22:30.58 | dataw0lf|w | from 'existing' images? |
| 22:30.59 | bucky | overlays.. rounded corners |
| 22:31.19 | bucky | adding test |
| 22:31.25 | bucky | s/test/text |
| 22:31.41 | dataw0lf|w | from what I see it's for basic shapes. |
| 22:31.53 | dataw0lf|w | I think if usynic wanted basic shapes he's competent enough to do that. |
| 22:31.59 | dataw0lf|w | He's looking for a graphical artist for a reason. |
| 22:32.05 | bucky | ic |
| 22:32.09 | dataw0lf|w | you know. spiffiness. |
| 22:32.43 | usynic | yeah, right now it's pretty un-spiff. |
| 22:33.05 | usynic | IE, half the icons I have I stole from some other opensource app |
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| 22:36.55 | scott | what kind of app is it? |
| 22:38.51 | vontrapp | jabber app |
| 22:38.57 | vontrapp | iirc |
| 22:41.39 | usynic | scott: yeah, http://www.jbother.org |
| 22:44.10 | bucky | is it raining? |
| 22:44.29 | usynic | it is on 3300S |
| 22:44.34 | hans | the time functions for find are pretty braindead. n*24? why would I want to go in 24-hour increments? |
| 22:44.54 | hans | usually it's more like show me everything edited in the past hour |
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| 23:06.34 | vontrapp | also raining by provo canyon |
| 23:16.18 | bucky | let it snow let it snow let it snow |
| 23:20.04 | goozbach | rain in bountiful |
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| 23:37.44 | misterpull | hans: I can envision a backup strategy that would use find to only grab the files that changed in the last 24 hours. |
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| 23:38.14 | misterpull | (sure rsync or something is better, but you asked for a reason... I stretched for one) |
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