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| 00:24.09 | LeviLaptop | Any OS X users awake? |
| 00:32.41 | hans | yo |
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| 00:47.06 | LeviLaptop | hans: I was wondering how to start an OS X app from the command line, but I figured it out. |
| 00:47.23 | LeviLaptop | hans: My rss feed is active now. Did you catch the URL earlier? |
| 00:50.17 | hans | yeah, but I'm not at work |
| 00:50.21 | hans | where I aggregate |
| 00:50.29 | LeviLaptop | Ahh, okay. |
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| 01:11.37 | tensai | is your lisp blog official or still in development? |
| 01:12.27 | LeviLaptop | Still in development, but it's usually up. |
| 01:12.54 | LeviLaptop | And the entries are persistent, so they won't suddenly disappear or switch around. |
| 01:13.11 | LeviLaptop | It's at http://lifeoflevi.com/lisp/ |
| 01:13.28 | LeviLaptop | And http://lifeoflevi.com/lisp/index.rss for the RSS feed. |
| 01:24.42 | tensai | so where are all the parenthesis? |
| 01:24.55 | LeviLaptop | Hrm, my connection seems to be dropping packets, which makes my music streaming over a smb mount unhappy. |
| 01:24.56 | LeviLaptop | tensai: In the source code, of course. |
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| 01:28.11 | LeviLaptop | I should make a link that serves up the source code. |
| 01:29.31 | LeviLaptop | Let's see if iTunes streaming is any better... |
| 01:38.45 | tensai | LeviLaptop: are you going to switch from drupal as well, or run them both? |
| 01:39.03 | LeviLaptop | I'm going to switch from Drupal eventually. |
| 01:39.34 | LeviLaptop | Meanwhile, I'll run them both. |
| 01:51.49 | LeviLaptop | Hmm. I'm disappointed with Ars Technica's recent GUI history. |
| 01:52.32 | LeviLaptop | It's not inaccurate at all, but it's not as comprehensive as I'd have liked. |
| 01:54.27 | LeviLaptop | Though I do really appreciate that they included Englebart. |
| 02:04.30 | xbmodder | This message is encoded ROT0. Decoding is punishable by death under the DMCA. |
| 02:05.10 | LeviLaptop | If that was supposed to be a joke, you might try recalibrating your sense of humor. |
| 02:08.11 | xbmodder | Ok. |
| 02:08.57 | xbmodder | Its just that the guy at the video store yelled at me when I was talking about piracy on these DVDs. (not yelling, more ranting) |
| 02:10.19 | LeviLaptop | What were you discussing about DVD piracy? |
| 02:12.07 | xbmodder | That it is extremely sad that the MPAA needs laws such as the DMCA to help them code. They spend billions of dollars on DRM and have no return on investment |
| 02:15.56 | xbmodder | hmm. I wonder why my game needs the value of pi. |
| 02:16.10 | LeviLaptop | What game? |
| 02:16.37 | LeviLaptop | Most anything that does geometrical calculations needs pi. |
| 02:17.11 | xbmodder | apricots. |
| 02:17.35 | xbmodder | Hm, changing the value of pi to 18 makes the plane go backward. |
| 02:17.42 | xbmodder | In effect not letting it fly. |
| 02:33.30 | xbmodder | Does anyone here have skype so I can test my skype connection |
| 02:56.31 | tene | skype echo123 |
| 02:56.35 | tene | I think is the name |
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| 03:45.18 | mrpull- | anybody getting their upgraded speeds from qwest dsl yet? |
| 03:45.43 | LeviLaptop | Nah, I just barely upgraded to 1.5mbit |
| 03:46.14 | krtzen | I checked in to it and my line does qualify |
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| 03:51.29 | mrpull- | mine only qualifies for 3 |
| 03:51.34 | mrpull- | Mbps |
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| 03:51.54 | mrpull- | i'll see if it makes any noticable difference |
| 04:09.37 | mrpull- | s/hoary/breezy/g |
| 04:09.42 | mrpull- | am I going to regret it? |
| 04:10.14 | LeviLaptop | Beats me. |
| 04:10.39 | LeviLaptop | I hear hoary was pretty unstable early in its dev cycle, but the same may not be true for breezy. |
| 04:10.51 | mrpull- | hehe |
| 04:10.57 | mrpull- | yeah. I played with hoary very early on. |
| 04:11.03 | mrpull- | this computer is just for fun anyway |
| 04:11.14 | mrpull- | if I break it, I'll try FC4b2 |
| 04:12.29 | tene | anyone know of something in perl to mimic 'uniq'? |
| 04:13.19 | mrpull- | loop line by line putting everything in a hash? use each line as the key? |
| 04:13.30 | mrpull- | that should give you one of each |
| 04:13.41 | mrpull- | (oh boy... uniq is line based right?) |
| 04:14.27 | mrpull- | nm... I opened my mouth before I remembered uniq is just removes consecutive lines |
| 04:17.32 | mrpull- | looks like cpan has what you are looking for |
| 04:19.51 | tene | well |
| 04:20.02 | tene | all I need is to remove duplicate items in a list or array |
| 04:20.13 | tene | but the hash thing should work |
| 04:26.07 | mrpull- | tene: http://www.unix.org.ua/orelly/perl/cookbook/ch04_07.htm |
| 04:26.17 | mrpull- | TIMTOWTODI |
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| 05:41.10 | Lenolium | So, anyone want to do waffles at the Belgian Waffle Inn (around 80th south)? |
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| 15:22.50 | levi-treo | Good morning. |
| 15:24.10 | Maquis | all you married guys had better go wish your wives happy mothers day... |
| 15:24.59 | levi-treo | Heh. |
| 15:25.12 | Maquis | just a friendly reminder |
| 15:25.27 | levi-treo | I will once she's a mother. |
| 15:28.16 | levi-treo | That was Eve. I'm not married to Eve. |
| 15:28.27 | Maquis | ~lart levi-treo |
| 15:29.59 | levi-treo | I think that was invented to ease the passing of flowers in church on Mother's Day. |
| 15:30.20 | Maquis | meh |
| 15:30.37 | levi-treo | No more awkward questions or assumtptions necessary! |
| 15:30.52 | Maquis | i think that there's a good deal of truth in it, though... |
| 15:31.52 | Maquis | if you look at people like sherri dew... she's a very motherly lady, and she wants to be a mother, but she never got married... |
| 15:31.53 | levi-treo | That Eve was called a mother? Sure. |
| 15:32.38 | levi-treo | Yet, she is not yet a mother. |
| 15:32.41 | Maquis | anyway, my personal opinion on the issue... |
| 15:33.27 | levi-treo | I'm not a father, and I'm happy to not receive recognition on Father's Day. |
| 15:33.54 | levi-treo | Yet Adam was called a father, etc. |
| 15:34.19 | mheath | I'll take recognition on Fathers day if it involves candy. ;) |
| 15:36.38 | Maquis | ng |
| 15:36.52 | levi-treo | We don't need any more candy around my house. My wife still has all sorts of chocolate I gave her on various occasions that she hasn't eaten. |
| 15:36.55 | Maquis | my dad's not in a very good mood today.... not good for mother's day... :( |
| 15:38.36 | levi-treo | Mother's Day is largely a scam by the greeting card and florist industries anyway. ;) |
| 15:38.51 | mheath | Agreed. |
| 15:39.36 | levi-treo | We should appreciate our mothers (and wives, fathers, and husbands) every day. |
| 17:53.15 | xbmodder | Thats levi-treo's wife speaking |
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| 18:59.30 | mheath | ..... |
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| 19:31.07 | mheath | I want some opinions on something. Do you think there would be a market for Computer+DVR systems? I mean, a computer unit designed to be hooked up to a TV that could be switched between "Computer Mode" and "Television Mode" (MythTV or similar DVR) |
| 19:31.34 | mheath | A "media pc", kinda like what Microsoft is trying to accomplish with their WindowsXP Multimedia Center |
| 19:33.53 | LeviLaptop | Probably some market, or some companies wouldn't be trying to sell products like that. |
| 19:34.13 | mheath | Who sells products like that? |
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| 19:35.04 | LeviLaptop | I'm not sure, but there's been some buzz about it. |
| 19:35.47 | mheath | I know things like TiVo are popular |
| 19:35.50 | spr | HP and Sony both sell Media pc's |
| 19:35.59 | spr | (Windows Media center based) |
| 19:36.03 | mheath | spr, could you give me a link? |
| 19:36.17 | mheath | To an information page on one of their models |
| 19:36.39 | bonez41 | I have a compaq deskpro en ..with mic and headphone jacks at front, sound out and sound at back...I plug in speakers...and turn on but get no sound... |
| 19:36.46 | bonez41 | how do I check to see if I have a sound card? |
| 19:37.45 | LeviLaptop | Running Linux? |
| 19:37.49 | bonez41 | I run lsmod..and don't see any type sound... |
| 19:37.53 | bonez41 | levi, yeah, debian 3.0 |
| 19:38.00 | LeviLaptop | lspci |
| 19:38.46 | bonez41 | 0000:00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801BA/BAM AC'97 Audio (rev 01) |
| 19:38.51 | bonez41 | it shows this one |
| 19:39.01 | LeviLaptop | Well, there you go. You have a sound card. |
| 19:39.16 | bonez41 | hmmm now what? |
| 19:39.45 | mheath | Agh! |
| 19:40.05 | mheath | HP's stuff starts at $1,200 |
| 19:40.22 | mheath | I was pricing things, I could build a DVR+Computer starting at $500. |
| 19:40.25 | LeviLaptop | bonez41: Now you find what driver you need and start it. |
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| 19:40.57 | LeviLaptop | mheath: Sure you could, but the target market for the HP media center probably can't. |
| 19:41.02 | Hhhhh | hello |
| 19:41.03 | LeviLaptop | Thus, a profit margin. |
| 19:41.36 | LeviLaptop | Hi, Hhhhh. |
| 19:41.58 | mheath | Wait |
| 19:42.01 | Hhhhh | hmm, anybody here uses FC3? |
| 19:42.15 | mheath | Is XP Media Edition even a full OS, really? |
| 19:42.28 | mheath | Or is it *just* for playing music, watching TV, looking at pictures, etc? |
| 19:42.41 | LeviLaptop | I think it's a full OS, but I'm not sure. |
| 19:42.43 | Hhhhh | good question |
| 19:42.49 | Hhhhh | I don't know either |
| 19:43.01 | Hhhhh | but I think it is more expensive than Windows XP |
| 19:43.09 | spr | sony's start at $1800 |
| 19:43.12 | LeviLaptop | It's a full OS. |
| 19:43.38 | LeviLaptop | It's for home computer AND media center stuff, according to Microsoft. |
| 19:44.06 | Hhhhh | hmm, I don't like this trend (making cellphones and DVD players be more like computers and computers more like cellphones and DVD players) |
| 19:45.17 | mheath | Still, I think thered be a market for a computer about $500 cheaper than most XP Media Center Edition computers |
| 19:45.38 | LeviLaptop | Possibly. |
| 19:45.40 | mheath | And it would run only free software :) |
| 19:45.54 | LeviLaptop | Well, there's a much smaller market for that. |
| 19:46.40 | LeviLaptop | Some large percentage of computer buyers are going to want to run MS Office. |
| 19:46.44 | mheath | Why do you say that? With the newer builds of WINE it would be virtually Windows-compatible. |
| 19:46.47 | mheath | And they can, with Wine. |
| 19:47.04 | LeviLaptop | Hmm. I haven't tried wine lately. |
| 19:47.17 | mheath | They're working extensively on DirectX stuff now |
| 19:47.34 | mheath | Which means that in a while, you won't need any of that non-free Cedega crap to play Windows games. |
| 19:47.45 | mheath | (Some are already supported) |
| 19:48.16 | LeviLaptop | Well, you can try to sell it. |
| 19:48.20 | LeviLaptop | Good luck. |
| 19:48.34 | mheath | The cases I'm looking at for the thing are sleek, too |
| 19:48.42 | mheath | Would go well with any entertainment center |
| 19:52.57 | bonez41 | levi, how do I find the driver I want? |
| 19:53.16 | bonez41 | LeviLaptop, how do I find the driver I want...? |
| 19:53.25 | bonez41 | I know insmod will load the module.. |
| 19:53.31 | LeviLaptop | Try google. |
| 19:53.35 | bonez41 | just not sure what sound driver ...ok. |
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| 21:44.08 | tene | heya, tab-complete buddy |
| 22:10.35 | tensai | hi, comes before me in the alphabet guy |
| 23:13.28 | tene | http://stephan.com/widgets/zaptastic/ |
| 23:13.31 | tene | warning; |
| 23:13.48 | tene | be very very careful about visiting that site in safari on tiger |
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