| 00:03.11 | dataw0lf | mmm, weekend. |
| 00:03.20 | dataw0lf | good weather and a beer. can't ask for much more. |
| 00:04.46 | sjansen | sure you could: 22, retired, filthy stinking rich, living on an island in the carribean |
| 00:05.46 | dataw0lf | 1) I'm 22. 2) If I was retired I'd be doing the same kind of work in my 'offtime' 3) I have money 4) I hate the caribbean |
| 00:06.54 | sjansen | you're miserable I tell you! you just haven't realized it yet! |
| 00:07.01 | dataw0lf | :) |
| 00:07.08 | dataw0lf | hey, ignorance is bliss. |
| 00:07.13 | sjansen | heh |
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| 00:12.52 | JoshH | how about good weather and 2 beers. |
| 00:12.58 | Maquis | ~lart findlay |
| 00:13.37 | findlay | ethanoic alcohol is colorless and tasteless |
| 00:14.18 | findlay | Maquis: (: |
| 00:15.12 | findlay | I take issur with the channel topic |
| 00:15.48 | findlay | should say ``The freedom of Free Software as it pertains to Utah'' |
| 00:16.51 | JoshH | i think it should say "Free beer for all, findlay is buying." |
| 00:17.02 | findlay | All your GNU - slash - Linux are belong to us |
| 00:19.06 | sjansen | chroot /mnt/gentoo |
| 00:19.13 | sjansen | rm -Rf /* |
| 00:19.49 | JoshH | do it |
| 00:20.09 | sjansen | No. I'm just going to reformat the partition. |
| 00:20.12 | sjansen | ~hug LVM |
| 00:20.14 | ibot | ACTION hugs LVM |
| 00:20.20 | findlay | you know when you are bored when every article, and every last post on /. becomes compellingly interesting |
| 00:21.13 | JoshH | heh, ive had that happen before. |
| 00:21.27 | JoshH | it always makes me feel ashamed. |
| 00:21.39 | findlay | why bother with those picky shell utilities anyway? ls? Who needs it? rm? Superfluous. |
| 00:22.16 | Maquis | sjansen: is it sunny out there? |
| 00:22.26 | sjansen | very |
| 00:22.57 | findlay | there, none of this 'interface' trickery, just use a little common sense |
| 00:23.53 | sjansen | root@vision:~ # lvremove /dev/Volume00/gentoo_root |
| 00:23.53 | sjansen | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:23.53 | sjansen | Do you really want to remove active logical volume "gentoo_root"? [y/n]: y |
| 00:23.53 | sjansen | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:27.41 | findlay | sjansen: I'll buy it from you |
| 00:28.12 | findlay | $0.05 per gigabyte? |
| 00:30.11 | sjansen | Toodles! |
| 00:37.02 | Maquis | w00t! i can forget about this project in < 5.5 hours! |
| 00:38.41 | findlay | ~forget Maquis' problems |
| 00:38.41 | ibot | i didn't have anything called 'maquis' problems' to forget, findlay |
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| 01:05.38 | dataw0lf | JoshH: you got me. 2 beers IS better than one. |
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| 01:12.18 | Maquis | question... |
| 01:12.54 | Maquis | why in the world would argv[1] not be null-terminated (assuming that argc == 2) |
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| 01:56.47 | scott | darnit, the fragfest wasn't on the events calendar so I didn't know about it |
| 01:57.21 | Maquis | scott: it was on the announcements... and it was announced on the lists... |
| 01:57.41 | scott | Maquis: how long was it on the events? I see it as posted the 13th |
| 01:57.56 | Maquis | scott: yes... |
| 01:58.05 | Maquis | well, we were dealing with a bit of a presidency change over here |
| 01:58.08 | scott | posted at 8p.m, starts at 7:30pm |
| 01:58.17 | Maquis | on the 14th... |
| 01:58.27 | Maquis | it was posted almost a full 24 hours before the event |
| 01:58.45 | scott | oh, I see, in the announcement it says thursday the 13th |
| 01:58.56 | Maquis | bah |
| 01:59.39 | Maquis | it was even mentioned on irc |
| 02:01.25 | Maquis | scott: i think it was in the topic of ir |
| 02:01.26 | Maquis | c |
| 02:05.27 | Maquis | scott: we'll work on getting things organized a bit better for our future meetings... :) |
| 02:07.40 | slugger2 | When is your next meeting? |
| 02:08.10 | Maquis | slugger2: we'll know soon |
| 02:08.39 | Maquis | (very soon) |
| 02:08.51 | slugger2 | Cool - I'm coming up that way for most of May - I'm hoping I can get to one of your meetings |
| 02:09.09 | Maquis | usually, they're the first and third thursdays of the month |
| 02:09.32 | slugger2 | Ok - thats a lot of meetings - different areas? |
| 02:09.40 | Maquis | slugger2: different topics, yes |
| 02:10.18 | slugger2 | 'kay - we have about 4 groups here in the Tampabay area - sometimes speakers, sometimes free form |
| 02:10.43 | Maquis | there are a number of groups here... |
| 02:10.55 | Maquis | the one i'm referring to is the BYU Unix Users Group |
| 02:11.12 | Maquis | the Provo Linux Users Group has a meeting once a month (3rd wednesday?) |
| 02:11.36 | Maquis | they tend to be a lot more consistent, prepared, organized, etc... they don't have a change in presidency every year |
| 02:11.52 | Maquis | and they have "real adults" in charge... ( |
| 02:11.57 | Maquis | as opposed to college students) |
| 02:13.00 | slugger2 | I'm mostly with the Tampa/HHC (Hillsborough Community College) group myself - the meeting after the meeting (dinner) is always fun |
| 02:13.13 | Maquis | dinner after meetings? |
| 02:13.21 | Maquis | that's an interesting idea... |
| 02:13.51 | slugger2 | Bennigns or Dennys or Friendlys - a 10 pm ice cream sunday is great |
| 02:14.11 | slugger2 | Oh yes... |
| 02:14.15 | Maquis | :) |
| 02:24.39 | slugger2 | This chat is running on port 667 |
| 02:34.53 | scott | alright guys, so just got done looking over all the resumes on the UUG site. Here are the awards: |
| 02:35.00 | scott | Best Resume Format:Hans Fugal |
| 02:35.00 | scott | Runner up:Von Fugal |
| 02:35.00 | scott | Coolest Work Experience: Timber Tech (Von Fugal) |
| 02:35.03 | scott | Cleverest Wording: Job Responsibilities: "Preparing products for customer consumption" |
| 02:35.15 | scott | Lamest thing on a resume: "my personal blog" |
| 02:35.15 | scott | Most impressive: Jon Lund |
| 02:35.15 | scott | Most difficult to contact: Andrew McNabb |
| 02:35.15 | scott | Most original: Evan Orme |
| 02:35.15 | scott | Most presumptuous: the dude that lists that he was District Leader & Zone Leader. |
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| 03:14.39 | fishyfire | only 15 more hours! |
| 03:15.13 | mheath | If anyone has a monitor or a KVM switch, a donation (or even a loan until a couple paydays from now) would be grealty appreciated! as long as it works, I don't care.. |
| 03:15.41 | mheath | Er..I've got to take off, though, apaprently, so if anyone is willing e-mail me at Mike.Thomas.Heath@gmail.com |
| 03:32.21 | hans | shadoi: ah, thanks. |
| 03:32.28 | hans | still, I thought T1 was faster. |
| 03:32.35 | hans | scott: do I get a prize? woohoo |
| 03:38.05 | Maquis | scott: that's cool |
| 03:46.50 | tensai | hans: T1... what was the question? |
| 03:47.21 | Maquis | fishyfire: 15 hours for what? |
| 04:00.25 | fishyfire | til my final is over! :) |
| 04:00.36 | Maquis | fishyfire: which one? |
| 04:00.40 | fishyfire | i have a wonderful 7am Saturday morning one |
| 04:00.43 | fishyfire | Ecen 313 |
| 04:00.47 | Maquis | cun |
| 04:00.49 | Maquis | fun |
| 04:00.51 | fishyfire | ? |
| 04:00.54 | fishyfire | oh |
| 04:01.04 | fishyfire | hmmm i guess you could say so |
| 04:12.43 | hans | tensai: 1.5Mbps and how that's the same as dsl |
| 04:12.58 | hans | his response was guaranteed bandwidth is what distinguishes a t1 |
| 04:36.08 | tensai | t1's have a lot lower latency. <10ms where my dsl is ~30ms. |
| 04:36.36 | tensai | you've also got more resources with qwest on a t1 |
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| 04:46.49 | tensai | http://www.aaccess.net/t1vsdsl.htm |
| 04:48.28 | tensai | the ptp t1s that they refer to are also only available within close proximity. otherwise the t1 has to ride over frame relay which is more expensive and adds another failure point, ala a DSLAM |
| 05:17.32 | hans | ah, thanks |
| 05:19.38 | hans | asdf |
| 05:22.48 | tensai | jkl; |
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| 05:44.33 | levi-laptop | Yo. |
| 05:44.44 | levi-laptop | So, I'm officially a UVSC student now. |
| 05:45.08 | levi-laptop | Crazy. |
| 05:52.36 | levi-laptop | Where is everyone?! |
| 06:05.18 | Newsome | Istanbul |
| 06:06.08 | levi-laptop | Not Constantinople? |
| 06:06.31 | Newsome | apparently not |
| 06:08.17 | levi-laptop | Stupid Turks. |
| 06:28.06 | Maquis | w00t |
| 06:29.27 | levi-laptop | Yay! |
| 06:29.36 | levi-laptop | Did you finish? |
| 06:35.15 | scott | anyone know how to take the designed for windows & intel inside stickers off w/o leaving a sticky residue? |
| 06:36.19 | Maquis | levi-laptop: does 6/20 count? |
| 06:36.54 | Maquis | scott: mine actually came off really easily after i'd had the laptop for a little > 2 years... |
| 06:37.00 | levi-laptop | Maquis: If you pass the class, sure. :) |
| 06:37.16 | Maquis | but, my laptops's surface is also textured, and doesn't hold stickers as well as many |
| 06:37.23 | levi-laptop | scott: goo-gone is good stuff. :) |
| 06:37.25 | Maquis | levi-laptop: if i don't fail the test, i can pull a C... |
| 06:37.34 | levi-laptop | Maquis: Good luck! |
| 06:37.37 | Maquis | (that was assuming a 0 on the project, too) |
| 06:37.46 | Maquis | i almost got 100% on the first test |
| 06:37.53 | levi-laptop | Well, 6/20 is better than 0. |
| 06:37.55 | Maquis | about 90 on the second |
| 06:38.07 | Maquis | didn't have enough time to really study for the third, so i got about an 80 there... |
| 06:38.13 | levi-laptop | In CS240, I didn't turn in the second project at all. |
| 06:38.25 | Maquis | but i only have this test, a paper, and one really easy test to take still |
| 06:38.26 | levi-laptop | Passed with a C-. |
| 06:38.28 | Maquis | and then i just have to pack |
| 06:38.37 | Maquis | levi-laptop: tell specialk that next time you see him |
| 06:38.38 | levi-laptop | Ah, going home? |
| 06:38.45 | levi-laptop | Maquis: Why? |
| 06:38.47 | Maquis | yeah.. working in seattle |
| 06:38.52 | levi-laptop | Oh, cool. |
| 06:39.16 | Maquis | he's scared he's gonna fail 240 |
| 06:39.18 | levi-laptop | After my mission, I stopped going home over the summer. |
| 06:39.29 | scott | levi-laptop: what's goo-gone? some chemical from walmart? |
| 06:39.49 | levi-laptop | scott: It's something like that. It's available in many places. |
| 06:40.00 | Maquis | i was going to stay here for the summer, but i doubt anyplace around here would offer anything close to what amazon.com has offered |
| 06:40.04 | Maquis | so, i'm going home |
| 06:42.44 | levi-laptop | Sounds like a plan, then. |
| 06:42.55 | Maquis | yeah |
| 06:43.00 | Maquis | i'm pretty excited about it |
| 06:43.07 | levi-laptop | And Seattle is wonderful in the summer. |
| 06:43.13 | Maquis | yeah |
| 06:43.22 | levi-laptop | I've got a friend that works at Amazon. |
| 06:43.23 | Maquis | i don't know how well i'd handle utah summers |
| 06:43.25 | Maquis | really? |
| 06:43.28 | Maquis | what group? |
| 06:43.56 | levi-laptop | I don't recall off the top of my head. Can't remember his last name right now, either, though I could look it up. |
| 06:44.03 | findlay | groups? |
| 06:44.12 | findlay | are you talking about advanced algebra? |
| 06:44.18 | Maquis | findlay: no |
| 06:44.47 | findlay | and even sjansen isn't here |
| 06:44.48 | levi-laptop | Maquis: He seems to have a somewhat high position in a technical department over some portion of the website. |
| 06:45.12 | Maquis | levi-laptop: hmmm... |
| 06:45.13 | Maquis | dunno |
| 06:45.25 | levi-laptop | His first name is Brad. :) |
| 06:45.32 | Maquis | haha |
| 06:45.34 | Maquis | that'll help a lot |
| 06:45.43 | findlay | levi-laptop: will you be patronising uvlug? |
| 06:45.56 | Maquis | i'll go around there asking everyone named brad "hey, do you know a guy named levi in utah?" |
| 06:46.02 | findlay | (: |
| 06:46.31 | Maquis | :) |
| 06:46.41 | Maquis | findlay: i still think you smile backwards |
| 06:46.58 | findlay | (:( |
| 06:47.19 | findlay | just turn the world upside-down and ... can't remember the rest |
| 06:48.13 | Maquis | smile that frown away/ |
| 06:48.14 | Maquis | ? |
| 06:48.29 | findlay | that's it |
| 06:48.38 | levi-laptop | findlay: I dunno. Depends on whether the meetings will be on nights I'm down there, I guess. |
| 06:48.50 | Maquis | findlay: you don't turn the world upside down... just the frown |
| 06:48.52 | findlay | I was kind of one of the founding members |
| 06:49.36 | levi-laptop | Maquis: Brad Roberts is his name. |
| 06:49.43 | Maquis | hmmm... |
| 06:49.53 | Maquis | i'll try to remember to watch for him :) |
| 06:50.11 | findlay | If you chance to meet a frown, |
| 06:50.11 | findlay | Do not let it stay. |
| 06:50.11 | findlay | Quickly turn it upside down |
| 06:50.11 | findlay | And smile that frown away. |
| 06:50.19 | Maquis | findlay: yes... i know |
| 06:51.49 | levi-laptop | Maquis: Trying to find info associated with him on the web is difficult, as he shares the name of the Crash Test Dummies singer. |
| 06:52.04 | Maquis | levi-laptop: i c... |
| 06:56.37 | levi-laptop | Ahh, apparently he's in the 'Promotions' team, though he spent a lot of time working with the 'Your Accounts' team. |
| 06:57.16 | levi-laptop | What team are you going to be on? |
| 06:58.49 | Maquis | it's called items and offers... |
| 06:59.23 | xbmodder | ? |
| 06:59.41 | xbmodder | Activate Red Alert! Xbmodder is here! |
| 07:00.11 | levi-laptop | Hmm. Well, I have no idea how big that part of the company is, so who knows if you'll run across him. |
| 07:00.18 | Maquis | who knows :) |
| 07:00.22 | levi-laptop | He's a cool guy, though. Say hi if you do. :) |
| 07:00.30 | Maquis | ok |
| 07:06.06 | xbmodder | I hate being alone/loner. |
| 07:06.37 | xbmodder | joshc needs to resend the suicide bible |
| 07:07.03 | xbmodder | Everyone is thinking "Yay, no more xbmodder. Where do we find joshc?" |
| 07:07.19 | levi-laptop | I'm thinking xbmodder could find it just fine himself if he wanted to. |
| 07:08.00 | levi-laptop | If you want to wallow in self-pity, you'll continue to be a loner. |
| 07:09.05 | xbmodder | Yeah. True. |
| 07:09.15 | xbmodder | going to watch a movie y'all |
| 07:09.24 | xbmodder | g'night. |
| 07:09.27 | levi-laptop | Enjoy. |
| 07:30.54 | xbmodder | Or not. |
| 07:35.49 | xbmodder | So how are you levi |
| 07:35.52 | xbmodder | levi-laptop, |
| 07:37.59 | levi-laptop | I'm doing pretty good. A little hungry, and I should be asleep. |
| 07:41.55 | xbmodder | cool |
| 07:45.15 | levi-laptop | Now I'm going to bed. |
| 07:46.12 | xbmodder | Why |
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| 12:21.21 | fishyfire | don't suppose anyone is up that could explain how to figure out the 8db versus the 3db |
| 12:21.23 | fishyfire | ??? |
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| 15:18.45 | media | Anyone know where on UVSC campus the CS biuklding is? the map on uvlug's website doesn't point it out that I notice. |
| 15:23.40 | hans | media: east side |
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| 15:44.37 | media | hans: thanks |
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| 18:14.45 | sid1 | Anyone know how to start xinetd services on a gentoo system? |
| 18:15.58 | usynic | /etc/init.d/xinetd start |
| 18:16.41 | sid1 | I mean ... services that can be started by xinetd... such as echo, time, etc. |
| 18:17.08 | Maquis | sid1: i don't understand the question... |
| 18:17.16 | usynic | services that start with xinetd start when they are needed |
| 18:17.59 | sid1 | Hmmm... so shouldn't it be listening on those ports? |
| 18:29.25 | vontrapp | eek, is mirrors.xmission.com down? |
| 18:37.11 | goozbach | "whenever I start my car... flames start comming up from under the hood..." |
| 18:37.30 | goozbach | "should I go on a cross-country trip with it?" |
| 18:38.04 | Maquis | goozbach: where'd you get that from? |
| 18:38.33 | goozbach | I'm paraphrasing a stupid question on another channel? |
| 18:38.59 | goozbach | "if I downloaded the iso and the md5 doesn't match, should I install?" |
| 18:41.53 | vontrapp | ~lart xmms |
| 18:42.29 | vontrapp | xmms will hang playback on the gui |
| 18:43.06 | vontrapp | e.g. when there's a block in updating the gui, playback will stop |
| 18:43.24 | goozbach | yup |
| 18:43.25 | vontrapp | i always wondered why xmms would pause momentarily when switching to a virtual terminal |
| 18:43.32 | goozbach | amarok rocks |
| 18:43.37 | goozbach | it uses gstreamer |
| 18:43.48 | goozbach | and the playback is a seperate thread |
| 19:01.00 | goozbach | cool beans, GL has released a module of the courseware under a creative commons licence |
| 19:01.13 | goozbach | I hate not having net access |
| 19:01.43 | goozbach | I work there and i was un-aware of this move till I got online this morning and there was a google news alert |
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| 19:21.33 | hans | ~lart sjansen |
| 19:25.14 | goozbach | blarg! |
| 19:25.20 | Maquis | blarg? |
| 19:26.08 | goozbach | blah argh! |
| 19:26.45 | goozbach | it's the sound of me realizing I've soo borked my machine the only way out is a re-install |
| 19:27.04 | goozbach | or a shotgun shell through the hard-drive of my laptop |
| 19:27.09 | goozbach | I'm opting for the first |
| 19:27.18 | Maquis | goozbach: how'd you bork your machine to that point? |
| 19:27.19 | sjansen | wouldn't that be more of a bleargh? |
| 19:27.23 | Maquis | i haven't even done that!!! |
| 19:27.25 | sjansen | bleck argh! |
| 19:27.53 | goozbach | well it all started when I wanted to listen to mp3s with amarok |
| 19:28.04 | goozbach | so I went out in search of rpms |
| 19:28.09 | Maquis | ok... |
| 19:28.13 | goozbach | non-broken rpms |
| 19:28.19 | Maquis | uh huh... |
| 19:28.24 | goozbach | FC's rpms for kdemultimedia are broken |
| 19:28.30 | Maquis | ok... |
| 19:28.43 | goozbach | I found this apt4rpm repository that had un-broken rpms |
| 19:28.49 | Maquis | but... how in the world do you bork your machine worse than i've borked mine? |
| 19:28.52 | Maquis | ok |
| 19:29.05 | goozbach | so I added it to my sources.list and fired away |
| 19:29.41 | goozbach | ok that went fine and dandy until yum update -y (using the default fc yum repos) went off |
| 19:29.41 | Maquis | and? |
| 19:29.56 | goozbach | I upgraded yum using this apt repo |
| 19:30.04 | goozbach | it installed a cron.daily script |
| 19:30.16 | goozbach | that always forces update |
| 19:30.42 | goozbach | so long story short I've had apt4rpm and yum fighting on my machine for weeks now |
| 19:30.44 | sjansen | icky |
| 19:30.58 | sjansen | which repo? |
| 19:31.00 | goozbach | and the update I did last night just pushed it over the edge |
| 19:31.03 | goozbach | FC3 |
| 19:31.16 | goozbach | using the default yum repos, and a slew of apt4rpm repos |
| 19:31.35 | sjansen | just J. Random Found-On-Net's repo? |
| 19:31.50 | goozbach | I belive the problem came from this jrandom found on net apt repo |
| 19:31.58 | goozbach | the one that had the kde packages I wanted |
| 19:32.07 | goozbach | it borked first the system sound |
| 19:32.19 | goozbach | screwed alsa six ways from sunday |
| 19:33.02 | goozbach | and now I just rebooted from my apt-get upgrade I did last night and found that all my kernel rpms had been erased |
| 19:33.22 | sjansen | ha! |
| 19:33.30 | goozbach | not to mention that a large number of packages are now complaining of missing dependancies |
| 19:33.58 | goozbach | so i booted into rescue mode and re-installed a working kernel |
| 19:34.14 | goozbach | and tried wading into dependancy hell to fix the problem. |
| 19:34.40 | goozbach | I tried seeing where the holes where with the dependancies and there are some 250 of them |
| 19:35.00 | goozbach | validating the tree caused me to just want to give up. |
| 19:35.20 | goozbach | sjansen: we have a beta tree of FC4 installed on mooru yet? |
| 19:35.32 | goozbach | maybe I'll go to the office and install it there |
| 19:35.41 | sjansen | don't think so |
| 19:36.26 | goozbach | anyone know when FC4 is due out? |
| 19:36.46 | sjansen | it's aonly at t2 now, so I'd expect awhile |
| 19:37.08 | goozbach | only test2 |
| 19:37.10 | goozbach | !!! |
| 19:37.26 | goozbach | bah this version is way behind schedule |
| 19:38.14 | sjansen | looks like they're aiming for june |
| 19:38.40 | goozbach | bah! |
| 19:40.23 | Maquis | goozbach: step away from the window! |
| 19:40.51 | spr | goozbach, Jump! |
| 19:44.08 | sjansen | emnabb has gentoo, I have ubuntu, you'll have to pick something else |
| 19:45.02 | goozbach | you can now use yum to bootstrap a xen guestOS |
| 19:45.32 | goozbach | mandrake 10 sounds cool |
| 19:46.07 | goozbach | mandriva == mandrake? |
| 19:46.15 | goozbach | me didn't know |
| 19:47.25 | sjansen | goozbach: nice! |
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| 19:47.58 | goozbach | umm mandriva |
| 19:48.05 | goozbach | I started out in mandrake |
| 19:48.17 | sjansen | mandriva = mandrake + connectiva |
| 19:48.27 | goozbach | well not exactly |
| 19:48.46 | goozbach | the first sucessfull use of linux for goozbach was mandrake |
| 19:49.00 | goozbach | his first attempt was way back a long redhat time ago |
| 19:50.25 | sjansen | interesting, my first attempt was caldera, followed by suse, finally red hat stuck |
| 19:50.47 | sjansen | after about 6 months, decided to try mandrake but quickly scuttled back to rh |
| 19:51.18 | goozbach | I was a star for about 3 years |
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| 19:51.39 | goozbach | then I tried out RH8 |
| 19:51.59 | goozbach | RH8 stuck |
| 19:52.21 | goozbach | ok so the real question is... |
| 19:52.48 | goozbach | "do I want to curse mandriva or suse for fowling up my custom configurations?" |
| 19:53.25 | mheath | Mandriva! :) |
| 19:54.53 | mheath | DeskOS > * |
| 19:55.01 | mheath | Or rather, it will be ;) |
| 19:55.30 | sjansen | You want to see how far Mandriva has come. |
| 19:55.48 | mheath | Eh? |
| 19:55.57 | goozbach | maybe I'll just do a minimal install of FC3 and use the rpmforge yum repos |
| 19:56.07 | sjansen | chicken |
| 19:56.17 | goozbach | cAoslinux |
| 19:56.23 | goozbach | that looks fun |
| 19:57.01 | mheath | I haven't done that in a while |
| 19:57.24 | goozbach | rpm based |
| 19:57.32 | goozbach | LSB fanatic |
| 19:57.34 | goozbach | ohh |
| 19:57.42 | goozbach | now if only it supports my hardware... |
| 19:57.48 | hans | hacking pleads guilty |
| 19:57.48 | sjansen | I've always been curious what makes it special. But never got past my laziness. |
| 19:58.09 | goozbach | I think this is a match made in heaven |
| 19:58.29 | goozbach | I hate things that aren't LSB compliant |
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| 20:04.05 | sjansen | Maquis: no you're not, just just wanted to make fun of him |
| 20:04.37 | hans | ooh, a stoning |
| 20:04.47 | sjansen | perhaps you meant that you were amused |
| 20:05.13 | Maquis | i saw this poster on a wall down in heritage: |
| 20:05.15 | Maquis | http://www.popartuk.com/humour/boys-are-stupid-st3241-poster.asp |
| 20:05.19 | sjansen | or maybe your interest was piqued (by a chance to harrass him) |
| 20:05.38 | sjansen | but I really down you were intrigued |
| 20:05.54 | goozbach | I doubt she was don |
| 20:06.04 | goozbach | or stacie for that matter |
| 20:06.47 | sjansen | now if you were to say that you're intrigued by my consistent inability to type simple words, that I'd believe |
| 20:06.49 | Maquis | sjansen: sorry to make you down... i mean, i don't try to ruin people's days... really |
| 20:07.44 | goozbach | anyone here have a non-java-biased opionion of rife? |
| 20:07.57 | Maquis | non-java-biased opinions? |
| 20:08.00 | Maquis | do those exist? |
| 20:08.23 | goozbach | opionions... do those exist |
| 20:08.25 | goozbach | ? |
| 20:08.54 | Maquis | that too |
| 20:09.38 | goozbach | Maquis... does she exist? |
| 20:09.59 | Maquis | i think i exist |
| 20:10.13 | Maquis | i think i think, therefore i think i am |
| 20:10.16 | Maquis | ouch! |
| 20:10.45 | sjansen | yup, she exists |
| 20:10.45 | goozbach | enough with the pinching |
| 20:10.45 | goozbach | ok |
| 20:11.22 | goozbach | hah! |
| 20:11.25 | goozbach | this is IRC |
| 20:11.37 | goozbach | the clause is null and void. |
| 20:11.51 | Maquis | but... but... uh.... |
| 20:11.51 | sjansen | Maquis: immunity? no, but normally I would have punched you back |
| 20:12.18 | Maquis | sjansen: :) |
| 20:12.36 | sjansen | fact, I probably wouldn't started by hitting you |
| 20:12.48 | Maquis | hmmmm... |
| 20:13.02 | Maquis | nope... still not coming through |
| 20:13.10 | sjansen | fact, I probably woulda' started by hitting you |
| 20:16.17 | goozbach | (the caos installer) |
| 20:18.56 | fishyfire | hmm looks like something fun to play with... maybe i'll donwload it too |
| 20:22.10 | fishyfire | *download |
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| 20:40.54 | mheath | <goozbach> I hate things that aren't LSB compliant <--Heh, don't try my new distro (DeskOS) then :D |
| 20:41.30 | goozbach | yeah I said that for your beneifit |
| 20:41.37 | goozbach | :) |
| 20:42.01 | mheath | Mine just isn't compliant with the filesystem hiearchy guidelines |
| 20:42.47 | mheath | I plan to have a testing release by mid-june |
| 20:42.59 | mheath | *if* I can get a monitor !! |
| 20:54.06 | findlay | what, where, I don't see anything |
| 20:55.27 | findlay | *ouch* hey |
| 20:57.38 | sjansen | findlay: them's the breaks |
| 21:08.11 | goozbach | well the one good thing I noticed abt this system screwing up so hard is that the clock is now set correctly |
| 21:08.26 | goozbach | I had problems getting it to decide on one timezone |
| 21:16.35 | vontrapp | levi-laptop, neybar: does either of you happen to have any bicycle brake levers that you can part with? |
| 21:20.09 | hans | ~lart vontrapp |
| 21:28.48 | Maquis | Newsome: why in the world are the rooms with the printers locked? |
| 21:29.03 | Maquis | i can print just fine... but the printer room is locked, so i can't get my paper!!!! |
| 21:29.16 | Maquis | :( |
| 21:29.22 | Maquis | ~lart cs sysadmins |
| 21:30.56 | goozbach | Maquis: pick the lock |
| 21:31.18 | Maquis | goozbach: bad idea... this is byu... |
| 21:31.27 | sjansen | dafont.com rocks! |
| 21:35.28 | goozbach | Maquis: then don't get caught |
| 21:35.57 | Maquis | goozbach: and of course, newsom won't suspect me in the least... since he didn't see this conversation... |
| 21:37.02 | Maquis | stupid cs dept sysadmins... locking doors for no reason whatsoever... |
| 21:47.40 | findlay | Maquis: you could email it to me and I can print it and then mail it to you |
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| 22:04.28 | hans | Maquis: iirc doors are the purview of the lab nazis, not the sysadmins. |
| 22:04.56 | hans | ~dict purview |
| 22:05.08 | sjansen | shwo off |
| 22:05.22 | hans | just making sure. wasn't sure I used it correctly. still aren't |
| 22:23.30 | vontrapp | hans: so you want to go biking today? |
| 22:23.38 | hans | my bike is broke |
| 22:23.45 | vontrapp | then fix it |
| 22:24.34 | hans | ~fix vontr |
| 22:24.36 | ibot | ACTION takes vontr to the vet for a "special" visit. |
| 22:26.39 | vontrapp | hans: what's broken? |
| 22:27.18 | hans | that stuipd pedal, for one |
| 22:27.27 | hans | but mostly a flat tire. the pedal may be temporarily ok |
| 22:27.32 | vontrapp | i thought jacob was the one with the pedal curse |
| 22:27.40 | hans | and it's probably rusted over |
| 22:27.47 | hans | I must have inherited it. |
| 22:27.50 | vontrapp | ~lart rust |
| 22:28.24 | vontrapp | oh well, i'll tell you how it was, there may still be some snow |
| 22:30.26 | sjansen | http://maxpages.com/klingel/Stupid_Criminals |
| 22:43.05 | findlay | what's a lab nazi? |
| 22:43.27 | findlay | some mythical beast I suppose |
| 22:44.04 | findlay | it inherits the labs at BYU preying on unsuspecting students who exceed thir quota of resources |
| 22:45.28 | findlay | ~lart the systematic error of the background |
| 22:46.29 | findlay | tell me if this makes sesne: |
| 22:46.32 | findlay | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:46.40 | findlay | because I wrote it (: |
| 22:46.58 | findlay | hmm, it looked uglier in context |
| 22:48.04 | sjansen | it's not ugly until you have at least three pointer dereferences in a row |
| 22:48.22 | sjansen | i += ***foo; |
| 22:48.34 | sjansen | i += ***(++foo); |
| 22:49.04 | sjansen | i++ += (***(++foo)).bar[baz]; |
| 22:49.12 | findlay | i += ***(++foo)[bar->bin(duh[j])]; |
| 22:50.05 | findlay | k %= i -= ***(++foo)[bar->bin(duh[j])]; |
| 22:54.06 | sjansen | http://www.wallerbroadcasting.com/bozo/previous.htm |
| 22:54.18 | sjansen | March 17, 2005 is... amazing |
| 22:59.08 | tensai | he should be up for a Darwin Award |
| 23:18.37 | Maquis | i like the one for march 24 |