| 00:26.10 | xbmodder | why are girls so overly consious about themselves? |
| 00:26.56 | LeviHome | Why do you ask so many questions? |
| 00:54.47 | xbmodder | because i would like to understand the world around me. |
| 01:04.16 | LeviHome | Asking questions is not always the path to enlightenment. |
| 01:11.41 | xbmodder | thats like saying screwing each other is not the path to pregnancy |
| 01:21.10 | LeviHome | It's not at all like saying that. If you don't understand, you need to think about it more. |
| 01:23.39 | Maquis | we'll be up around 1 :) |
| 01:24.31 | LeviHome | What are they going to bed for? |
| 01:24.36 | Maquis | we have tons of homework |
| 01:24.42 | Maquis | and none of us do homework on sundays... |
| 01:24.49 | LeviHome | Oh, I see. |
| 01:24.54 | Maquis | so, we go to bed early on sunday night, and wake up around 12 or 1 and do homework |
| 01:24.58 | Maquis | makes mondays a bit long |
| 01:25.05 | Maquis | (last monday was > 24 hours) |
| 01:25.11 | Maquis | but hey... you do what you have to |
| 01:25.46 | LeviHome | Well, that could include defining the Sabbath like the Jews do... from sundown to sundown. |
| 01:27.02 | LeviHome | That would make Saturday nights less fun, though. |
| 01:46.08 | mheath | <LeviHome> Asking questions is not always the path to enlightenment. | <xbmodder> thats like saying screwing each other is not the path to pregnancy |
| 01:46.30 | mheath | xbmodder, either your a complete IDIOT or you have a totally, bizarrely different idea of what enlightenment is than everyone else. |
| 01:55.54 | xbmodder | lol |
| 01:57.01 | LeviHome | mheath: I believe that's a false dichotomy. ;) |
| 01:57.53 | xbmodder | i mean that asking questions gets you information which brings you to enlightenment and screwing each other brings the female sperm which gets her pregnancy... ummm maybe this should be changed to #utah-NC17 |
| 01:58.41 | LeviHome | xbmodder: You're still not thinking about what I said, and you're also being puerile. |
| 01:58.59 | xbmodder | true |
| 01:59.27 | LeviHome | Information does not equal enlightenment. |
| 01:59.31 | xbmodder | sorry, for thou is a teenager |
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| 02:00.19 | mheath | And *thou* is very bad at English. |
| 02:00.21 | LeviHome | Teenagers are not incapable of behaving civilly. |
| 02:01.15 | xbmodder | lmao |
| 02:08.40 | mheath | Hmmm. |
| 02:10.08 | mheath | I remember reading an article a while back (several months to years?) about a project that set out to give a Linux base system a more "user friendly" directory structure, somwhat comparable to Windows' (although much different)......anyone remember anything about that? |
| 02:10.22 | xbmodder | i remember that. |
| 02:12.01 | LeviHome | I never thought the Windows filesystem structure was very friendly at all. |
| 02:12.18 | LeviHome | I recall hearing about something like that, though. I don't know any details. |
| 02:13.28 | mheath | I'm trying to find a website on it......just want to see if it ever got off the ground / still exists, and if it's still around. |
| 02:14.09 | LeviHome | It's an idea I'm not opposed to, though it's got significant hurdles to leap. |
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| 02:16.25 | LeviHome | I like OS X's approach, though. They've got the advantage of a bit of market leverage to get people to adopt their ideas. |
| 02:17.28 | mheath | http://www.gobolinux.org/ Aha. |
| 02:17.35 | mheath | It's not as messy as Windows |
| 02:17.58 | mheath | paths such as /Programs/XFree86/4.3/ and /System/Settings/BootScripts/Reboot |
| 02:19.23 | xbmodder | hmmm |
| 02:19.36 | xbmodder | but than XFree exists in different parts |
| 02:22.39 | mheath | http://www.gobolinux.org/index.php?lang=en_US&page=faq |
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| 02:35.20 | xbmodder | why is there an idle loop in windows? |
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| 02:36.10 | mheath | xbmodder, please tell me you're joking. |
| 02:39.30 | LeviHome | xbmodder: Why don't you think about what an idle loop is, and come up with some possible reasons yourself? |
| 02:40.07 | xbmodder | well its so apparent in windows, and people have hacked it before. |
| 02:40.13 | xbmodder | (changed the exe) |
| 02:40.34 | LeviHome | xbmodder: Do you know what an idle loop is? |
| 02:41.35 | xbmodder | yes... |
| 02:42.52 | mheath | Let's put it this way. |
| 02:43.02 | mheath | xbmodder, do you know how a processor works? |
| 02:43.34 | xbmodder | yes. |
| 02:44.11 | mheath | Then you know that it has to be constantly processing stuff, right? It can't "pause". |
| 02:45.19 | xbmodder | yes. i know |
| 02:45.41 | mheath | What do you think it processes when you're not doing much? |
| 02:46.25 | xbmodder | i know. but windows has an entire EXE built-in for it. where-as linux and Macs are kernel based loops |
| 02:48.29 | mheath | xbmodder, thats a design decision that Microsoft made. Your question was poorly worded. You know very well why there is an idle looop in windows, you just don't understand why they used an idle loop over other options. |
| 02:48.44 | xbmodder | yeah. |
| 02:48.50 | xbmodder | thank you mheath |
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| 04:37.09 | LeviHome | Man, it's quiet here tonight. |
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| 04:46.50 | xbmodder | BOO@ |
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| 08:07.58 | Maquis | gmorning all |
| 08:36.45 | Maquis | mmmmm... |
| 08:36.50 | Maquis | spaghetti for breakfast |
| 08:36.54 | Maquis | (my roommate was making some) |
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| 11:04.33 | Maquis | why is it that when i have a vsplit in a gvim window, i get a scrollbar on the left side of the screen? |
| 11:05.19 | Maquis | i've tried :set guioptions-=l, but it's not changing anything |
| 11:13.12 | Maquis | it also changes the height of my windows when i do a vsplit... |
| 11:13.15 | Maquis | very annoying |
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| 14:28.02 | hans | Maquis: take heart. you can get rid of the scrollbars |
| 14:28.14 | hans | what do you mean about the windows changing height? |
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| 14:37.46 | hans | ~lart vontrapp |
| 14:41.58 | vontrapp | ~bite hans |
| 14:42.01 | ibot | ACTION takes a big bite out of hans's jugular vein |
| 14:43.29 | hans | ~eat vontrapp |
| 14:43.32 | ibot | ACTION eats vontrapp and falls over dead |
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| 14:49.15 | xbmodder | hey y'all! |
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| 14:52.33 | tensai | ~kill teletubbies |
| 14:52.36 | ibot | ACTION shoots a magneto-ionized pseudopositrino gun at teletubbies |
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| 15:06.17 | bigdog_ut | top of th' mornin' |
| 15:08.44 | xbmodder | ~lart tensai for touching a M$ teletube |
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| 15:14.32 | hans | sjansen: I thought you swore off /. |
| 15:15.18 | sjansen | No, I get it emailed to me each night. Makes it possible to read /. in ~five minutes. |
| 15:15.22 | hans | as I see it, that guy is a nut who's spent a lot of time neck-deep in the finest details of adams and hhgg. there were people like that for lotr that hated the movies too. |
| 15:15.41 | hans | and I didn't and don't plan on reading his review. |
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| 15:16.13 | levi | Good morning. |
| 15:16.41 | hans | so when is osx tiger coming? I thought it was due a week or two ago |
| 15:16.43 | *** topic/#utah by sjansen -> The source for OSS focused discussion in Utah. See sllug.org, plug.org, uug.byu.edu, uvlug.org, fslc.usu.edu, etc. | utwaa.org for Utah windows Admins Anonymous | UUG Elections now over... Maquis/TuxGirl/Erin 0wnz3rd your cheese! |
| 15:17.04 | levi | hans: They've gone to gold master, so it should be soon. |
| 15:17.41 | levi | Hmm. All our cheese belong to Maquis now? |
| 15:17.57 | hans | sjansen: one of the things linked to was "things that were in the books but not the movie", right? that's a bright red cuckoo flag right there. |
| 15:18.24 | hans | all our cheese are belong to her |
| 15:18.25 | levi | hans: There's another, very positive review in the comments. |
| 15:18.31 | sjansen | Making the movie completely faithful to the original(s) would have be unfaithful to the tradition of the story, I hope you're right hans. |
| 15:18.45 | sjansen | ~hug me |
| 15:18.47 | ibot | ACTION hugs sjansen |
| 15:18.47 | hans | ~hug sjansen |
| 15:18.49 | ibot | ACTION hugs sjansen |
| 15:18.57 | levi | The guy said he's been to two screenings, he loved it, and the audiences were laughing the entire time. |
| 15:19.20 | hans | well, my only judgement thus far is from the preview. That looked very good, so I'm optimistic. |
| 15:19.27 | hans | I hate to let others make up my mind about a movie anyway. |
| 15:19.33 | levi | And the reviewer from the main article must have been a hypersensitive anal geek who would be impossible to please. |
| 15:19.54 | hans | I mean, my wife hates monty python and the search for the holy grail. what if I trusted her movie judgement? where would I be? |
| 15:20.30 | sjansen | Mars Attacks also looked good from the previews. |
| 15:21.29 | hans | i only bareley remember the preview on that one. didn't convince me I guess |
| 15:22.16 | sjansen | They took the 45 seconds of actual funny content, improved the timing, fit it into 30 seconds and used that as a preview. |
| 15:22.22 | Lone_Wanderer | Hmm... |
| 15:22.32 | Lone_Wanderer | how much memory would the entire text of the complete OED take up? |
| 15:23.21 | sjansen | Not only did I walk out in disgust, but a couple of 14 year old boys (argueably the target audience for Mars Attacks) walked out behind us complaining they'd been robbed. |
| 15:23.59 | Lone_Wanderer | You didn't like Mars Attacks? |
| 15:24.05 | sjansen | Lone_Wanderer: Depends on how you formatted it, for efficiency of access speed. I would expect in that 100MB would be in the same ball park. |
| 15:24.24 | sjansen | Hated it. |
| 15:24.45 | sjansen | More than Billy Madison, although at least Mars Attacks didn't kill brain cells. |
| 15:24.48 | Lone_Wanderer | sjansen: the complete OED is made up of 20 volumes... |
| 15:25.35 | sjansen | OED == Oxford English Dictionary, right? |
| 15:25.38 | Lone_Wanderer | yeah |
| 15:25.53 | sjansen | I stand by my estimate. Unless you want to add pictures. |
| 15:26.06 | Lone_Wanderer | You may be thinking of the Shorter OED, which is only 2 volumes |
| 15:26.34 | sjansen | Do you realize how much text can fit in 100 MB compressed? |
| 15:26.52 | Lone_Wanderer | I don't, no |
| 15:27.17 | sjansen | And like I said, it's only ball park. I expect I'm off by less than an order of magnitude. |
| 15:27.26 | Lone_Wanderer | okay |
| 15:27.52 | hans | i suspect he's off by considerably more than that, if it's plain text with no pics |
| 15:28.08 | Lone_Wanderer | the reason I'm asking really is because I'm wondering whether it would be safe to say that you could probably put the entire OED in a MySQL LONGTEXT field |
| 15:28.19 | sjansen | ick |
| 15:28.27 | hans | what in the world for? |
| 15:28.27 | levi | Oh my. This is disturbing, but funny nonetheless: http://unix.rulez.org/~calver/pictures/bunny_suicides/ |
| 15:28.51 | Lone_Wanderer | Not that anyone would want to |
| 15:28.54 | levi | hans: My LONGTEXT field is bigger than yours! |
| 15:28.56 | sjansen | hans: Because he's a MySQL user. Good design isn't important. ;-) |
| 15:28.56 | Lone_Wanderer | but I *know* that someone is going to ask "So how much text can I put in this field?" |
| 15:29.17 | Lone_Wanderer | and I want my response to be suitably impressive so they'll shut the heck up and we can move on |
| 15:29.26 | Lone_Wanderer | (but correct in addition to being impressive) |
| 15:30.27 | sjansen | levi: That's great! |
| 15:32.03 | sjansen | It's like a darker, more disturbed Gary Larson. |
| 15:33.27 | levi | Maquis: It's a bunch of cute bunnies finding creative ways to kill themselves. |
| 15:33.43 | Maquis | levi: hmmm.. |
| 15:33.59 | Maquis | byu has odd blocking... |
| 15:34.07 | levi | No doubt someone found it very offensive. |
| 15:34.15 | Maquis | of course |
| 15:34.47 | sjansen | bunnies, it turns out, are both very creative and very patient |
| 15:35.44 | sjansen | "Leper Colony & Petting Zoo 1/2 Mile" |
| 15:36.29 | hans | Maquis: you have the cheeze. use your skillz. |
| 15:36.31 | Lone_Wanderer | oh wow. that was worth at least five minutes of quality laughter. |
| 15:37.04 | Lone_Wanderer | this site, Maquis, has *tons* of pseudo-porn mixed in with the good stuff |
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| 15:37.38 | Lone_Wanderer | if I were BYU's blocking people I'd block it too. although the girl in the freebsd daemon suit is pretty cute. |
| 15:38.52 | levi | I didn't look at any of the rest of the site, just the bunnies. |
| 15:39.02 | levi | And they're the floppy-eared kind of bunnies. |
| 15:39.26 | sjansen | Although you have to admit they were pretty cute. |
| 15:40.00 | levi | Yeah, for definitions of cute that you wouldn't apply to the other kind of bunnies. Not that I make a habit of looking at those. |
| 15:41.48 | Lone_Wanderer | This desk is about an inch too low for my lower legs. |
| 15:42.19 | sjansen | You have upper legs? |
| 15:42.27 | Lone_Wanderer | yes |
| 15:42.36 | Lone_Wanderer | anything above the knee is the upper leg |
| 15:43.46 | dataw0lf|w | Anyone ever used NetVault before? |
| 15:43.55 | hans | the real question is, do his upper legs not mind, or perhaps are they above the desk? |
| 15:45.01 | Maquis | sjansen: of course he has 4 legs... the upper legs just happen to have hands instead of feet... |
| 15:45.06 | Lone_Wanderer | to get my legs under the desk, I have to invoke odd angles such that my leg forms the hypotenuse of a triangle created by my leg, the bottom edge of the desk, and a vertical line from my foot to the desk |
| 15:46.28 | sjansen | Lone_Wanderer: While parsing your description was enjoyable, I prefer the image presented by hans. |
| 15:47.30 | Maquis | (with a sidetrack past the vending machines) |
| 15:47.30 | Lone_Wanderer | Well, I kind of wish I had four legs. That'd at least guarantee me a job as a circus freak, if all other options failed. |
| 15:47.30 | Lone_Wanderer | mmmm, vending machine fodder |
| 15:47.30 | sjansen | I won't even comment on Maquis's comment... Wait that was a comment. |
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| 15:52.43 | sjansen | Time to make the donuts. |
| 16:04.40 | Lone_Wanderer | Hmmm. Apparently I am braindead. Oh no, wait, I just need to $i++; |
| 16:05.13 | Maquis | ?? |
| 16:06.19 | Lone_Wanderer | I was doing one of those deals where you do a loop and on each iteration check if ($i % 2 == 0), then increment $i |
| 16:06.36 | Lone_Wanderer | so every other time through it does something (in this case setting a bgcolor to a nice pretty light blue) |
| 16:06.56 | Lone_Wanderer | needs to be lighter though so you can still read the text |
| 16:07.09 | Maquis | ah... but you forgot to increment? |
| 16:07.12 | sjansen | *cough* (($i % 2) == 0) *cough* |
| 16:07.33 | spr | mmm.. donuts... |
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| 16:08.30 | sjansen | No donuts for you unless you recognize the reference. |
| 16:08.50 | Lone_Wanderer | umm |
| 16:09.03 | Lone_Wanderer | doesn't the order of operations mandate that a % goes before a == ? |
| 16:09.13 | Lone_Wanderer | Maquis: yeah, I forgot to increment. |
| 16:09.41 | sjansen | Sure it does, but relying on order of operation is a bad habit. Making order explicit with parens is a good habit IMNSHO. |
| 16:09.45 | Maquis | Lone_Wanderer: i'd stick parens anyways... sjansen knows his stuff, and "when in doubt, parenthesize" :) |
| 16:10.03 | spr | But i missed the comments before donuts! |
| 16:10.06 | lukfugl_ | sjansen: what reference? |
| 16:10.06 | Lone_Wanderer | point taken |
| 16:10.18 | sjansen | "Time to make the donuts." |
| 16:10.22 | Lone_Wanderer | now... |
| 16:10.24 | sjansen | spr: There was no before. |
| 16:10.39 | lukfugl_ | sjansen: reference to the code brailsmt was working on Friday? :) |
| 16:10.41 | spr | d'oh! |
| 16:10.47 | Lone_Wanderer | if I could just make the left hand column in a multi-row note only have one row (the row with the "type" word on it) be blue, instead of the whole column |
| 16:10.52 | Lone_Wanderer | I guess it's not that big of a deal |
| 16:11.21 | Lone_Wanderer | is brailsmt blind? |
| 16:11.23 | sjansen | So I was in the grocery store store Saturday when a coupla' teenagers walk up talking about something they'd seen on "I Love the 90's": Olestra. |
| 16:12.10 | sjansen | Of course they didn't know what it was, just "there were these chips that gave you the squirts". |
| 16:12.14 | sjansen | Made me sad. |
| 16:12.40 | sjansen | I mean, first of all, who in their right mind loves the 90's when there's the 80's instead. |
| 16:12.51 | vontrapp | tr:nth-child(2n) { background: lightblue; } i believe it was should color every other row in a table lightblue, but alas, it's not implemented anywhere |
| 16:12.52 | spr | amen brother! |
| 16:13.01 | sjansen | Decade that gave us Airwolf vs. Decade that gave us friends |
| 16:13.10 | sjansen | Seems like a no brainer to me. |
| 16:13.11 | dataw0lf|w | the 80s? |
| 16:13.16 | dataw0lf|w | Honestly, who liked the 80s? |
| 16:13.34 | sjansen | Don't get me wrong, the fashion was tragic. |
| 16:13.35 | Lone_Wanderer | not I |
| 16:13.41 | Lone_Wanderer | except Erasure. they're awesome. |
| 16:13.42 | dataw0lf|w | All that happened in the eighties was cocaine and pastel colors. |
| 16:13.48 | sjansen | But TV, music, movies. All much better in the 80's. |
| 16:13.51 | vontrapp | friends sucks, and i want to smack people whenever they say it's the best show |
| 16:14.04 | Lone_Wanderer | movies? |
| 16:14.06 | dataw0lf|w | Yeah, but we had Seinfeld in the nineties. |
| 16:14.08 | sjansen | And I haven't even mentioned Knight Rider yet. |
| 16:14.10 | dataw0lf|w | that has to count for something. |
| 16:14.26 | dataw0lf|w | hm, you won right when you said Knight Rider. |
| 16:14.28 | dataw0lf|w | I concede. |
| 16:14.30 | Lone_Wanderer | my favorite music is the mid-90's alternative rock |
| 16:14.55 | Lone_Wanderer | although the 80's *did* have Back to the Future |
| 16:14.56 | lukfugl_ | You know, like Superman vs. Spiderman |
| 16:15.23 | Lone_Wanderer | superman would totally win. spiderman is just a genetically enhanced normal person, superman is Superman. |
| 16:15.48 | sjansen | "Well of course he would, don't be ridiculous." |
| 16:16.04 | sjansen | (Perfect Strangers reference for the uncultured.) |
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| 16:16.13 | vontrapp | superman could just fly up above spiderman and lazer zap his web everytime he tried to swing from buildings |
| 16:16.24 | sjansen | Newsome: right? |
| 16:16.56 | Lone_Wanderer | Was Green Acres launched in the 80's? |
| 16:17.23 | sjansen | nope |
| 16:17.26 | Lone_Wanderer | That was probably my favorite show as a kid. |
| 16:17.26 | Newsome | whatever sjansen said is correct |
| 16:17.30 | Lone_Wanderer | 70's? |
| 16:17.32 | sjansen | sixties |
| 16:17.35 | Lone_Wanderer | wow |
| 16:17.48 | lukfugl_ | man, the more I think about it, the more I would like to watch Knight Rider vs. Airwolf. That would just be awesome |
| 16:17.55 | Lone_Wanderer | what about the Simpsons? |
| 16:18.22 | Lone_Wanderer | okay, best-course-of-action decision time. |
| 16:18.44 | Lone_Wanderer | do I make a single meta-report dealybob, and tell the customer to generate every report they need using it? |
| 16:18.51 | Lone_Wanderer | or do I hand-code every report individually? |
| 16:20.43 | hans | kitt could do a 90 degree turn at 120 mph in the city. now that's cool |
| 16:20.46 | sjansen | Touché. Although the Simpsons is close enough to the 80's that I'll call it a cultural echo before the rising darkness. |
| 16:21.10 | hans | don't forget star trek tng |
| 16:21.19 | sjansen | Lone_Wanderer: Are you getting paid by the hour or on completion of the whole project? |
| 16:21.35 | spr | Even with it's time, the more familar one is with older stuff (60s up) the Simpsons gains more levels of humor |
| 16:21.39 | sjansen | And is your client savey enough to define their own. |
| 16:21.41 | Lone_Wanderer | on completion of the whole project |
| 16:22.25 | sjansen | A single dealybob. Otherwise the contract could drag on forever as the client tries to get more free labor. |
| 16:23.05 | sjansen | For future reference, it would be safer to have that specifically spelled out in the contract. |
| 16:23.37 | hans | and a-team |
| 16:23.40 | sjansen | hans: Yes, but look how many seasons it took TNG to rise above the decade it started in. |
| 16:24.16 | sjansen | Oh, wait, TNG was 80's. |
| 16:24.25 | hans | yeah |
| 16:24.31 | Lone_Wanderer | it still took a few seasons to get good :p |
| 16:24.34 | hans | at least, it started in the 80s. might have run into the 90s barely |
| 16:24.35 | sjansen | Although I stand by the statement that it took a few seasons to come into its own. |
| 16:24.44 | hans | yes, 1.5 to be precise |
| 16:24.50 | hans | mr. T vs knight rider |
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| 16:25.04 | sjansen | A-Team vs. Night Rider vs. Airwolf |
| 16:25.18 | sjansen | Mr. T vs. McGyver |
| 16:25.34 | lukfugl_ | 4-way rumble? |
| 16:25.37 | hans | you yeah, mcguyver. see the 80s was chock full |
| 16:25.48 | lukfugl_ | A-Team, Night Rider, Airwolf and MacGyver |
| 16:26.03 | hans | of good tv. for every reality show in the 90s/2000s, there was a watchable action series in the 80s |
| 16:26.14 | hans | greatest american hero |
| 16:26.26 | vontrapp | dr. who |
| 16:26.26 | hans | looks like Mr. T started out on sesame street. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001558/ |
| 16:26.55 | vontrapp | incredible hulk |
| 16:26.58 | vontrapp | the list goes on |
| 16:27.11 | sjansen | "I pity the fool that don't eat his vegetables." |
| 16:27.14 | lukfugl_ | hulk might be 70s |
| 16:27.23 | levi | The 80s was chock full of cheese. You have to like cheese to appreciate the 80s. |
| 16:27.33 | vontrapp | mmm, cheese... |
| 16:27.38 | sjansen | Hmmm, cheese! |
| 16:27.43 | sjansen | vontrapp: copycat |
| 16:27.48 | vontrapp | :p |
| 16:27.55 | hans | levi: maquis has all the cheese, and she hasn't even seen a single one of those shows I'm betting. is that irony? |
| 16:28.26 | vontrapp | what about buck rogers, battlestar galactica, et al, when where those? |
| 16:29.06 | hans | 70s I thin |
| 16:29.11 | hans | buck might have been sixties? |
| 16:29.22 | hans | battlestar may have been early 80s |
| 16:29.29 | sjansen | "Where's the beef?!" |
| 16:29.56 | hans | levi: you're right about the cheese, but I'll take cheese over reality shows any day |
| 16:30.27 | sjansen | Cheesey 80's teen movies are eclipsed only by British humor. |
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| 16:35.29 | Jayce^ | Transformers, GI Joe, Thundercats, etc.. VS. Power Rangers, Pokemon, etc |
| 16:35.29 | lukfugl_ | buck rogers: 1979-1981 |
| 16:35.30 | hans | british humor is a completely different scale. |
| 16:35.30 | lukfugl_ | Battlestar galactica: 1978 and 2003, respectively |
| 16:35.31 | hans | that's like comparing basketballs to ants |
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| 16:35.33 | lukfugl_ | dang it, I lost the context in the netsplit |
| 16:35.34 | lukfugl_ | incredible hulk: 1977 |
| 16:35.34 | Jayce^ | yeah |
| 16:35.34 | vontrapp | so i guess the late 70's had it's share of good shows as well |
| 16:35.34 | Jayce^ | or hans is just out on his own tangent |
| 16:35.34 | lukfugl_ | I hadn't realized that battlestar galactica and incredible hulk only had one season each |
| 16:35.35 | hans | 10:30 < sjansen> Cheesey 80's teen movies are eclipsed only by British humor. |
| 16:35.35 | Jayce^ | Dukes of Hazard! |
| 16:35.35 | lukfugl_ | oh, I'm wrong |
| 16:35.35 | lukfugl_ | hulk went from 78-82 |
| 16:35.36 | vontrapp | yeah, i was thinking hulk had to have gone longer than 1 season |
| 16:35.36 | lukfugl_ | 1977 was a made-for-tv movie (possibly pilot for series?) |
| 16:35.55 | lukfugl_ | because the 1977 entry on IMDb does have Bill Bixbe and Bruce Banner |
| 16:36.37 | lukfugl_ | Bill Bixby as Bruce Banner, that is |
| 16:36.57 | vontrapp | and what about the batman series? |
| 16:37.11 | vontrapp | *pow!* ||BIFF|| |
| 16:37.27 | lukfugl_ | 60's or maybe early 70s |
| 16:37.45 | sjansen | <sjansen> Cheesey 80's teen movies are eclipsed only by British humor. |
| 16:38.04 | sjansen | Jayce^: preach it brother |
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| 16:38.41 | lukfugl_ | Batman: 66-68 |
| 16:38.55 | vontrapp | andy griffeth :D |
| 16:39.16 | lukfugl_ | jk |
| 16:39.20 | sjansen | Get Smart: 1965 - 1970 |
| 16:39.25 | lukfugl_ | good stuff |
| 16:39.35 | vontrapp | dragnet |
| 16:40.02 | lukfugl_ | back to the 80s, we have Matlock |
| 16:40.06 | sjansen | The Blues Brothers (1980) |
| 16:40.23 | lukfugl_ | I like it though, especially Conrad :) |
| 16:40.52 | sjansen | I thought the target audience of Matlock was AARP members. |
| 16:41.39 | dataw0lf|w | eh, I'll confess that I've enjoyed Matlock before. |
| 16:41.55 | Newsome | rumor has it Get Smart will start to be released on DVD sometime after September 2005 |
| 16:42.13 | sjansen | well the, I'll confess I've enjoyed CHiPs before |
| 16:42.25 | vontrapp | :) |
| 16:43.56 | sjansen | Good choice. |
| 16:45.18 | Jayce^ | Max Headroom |
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| 16:45.25 | xbmodder-treo | hey all! |
| 16:45.37 | xbmodder-treo | lol |
| 16:45.39 | sjansen | Jayce^: Well... |
| 16:46.04 | sjansen | Okay, so the 80's weren't without their sins. |
| 16:46.17 | sjansen | But there's still Alf. |
| 16:46.31 | xbmodder-treo | the 00s rock! |
| 16:46.42 | sjansen | Although Small Wonder probably cancels Alf. |
| 16:46.48 | Jayce^ | ouch |
| 16:47.22 | Jayce^ | and punky brewster and webster are double strikes |
| 16:47.35 | sjansen | Which Punky? Cartoon or live? |
| 16:47.41 | Jayce^ | uh, either |
| 16:47.54 | Poncho | Jayce^: I'll give you punky brewster and small wonder, but I liked Max Headroom :) |
| 16:47.54 | sjansen | well than make that a triple |
| 16:48.01 | Jayce^ | Max was fun |
| 16:48.43 | Jayce^ | trying to remember a shows name, think it was a 1 season thing... cop who always used heavy firepower, kinda a takeoff of tach from Police academy |
| 16:48.58 | Newsome | Sledgehammer? |
| 16:48.59 | sjansen | Hunter? |
| 16:49.07 | lukfugl | probably Hunter |
| 16:49.43 | Jayce^ | no, sledge was it |
| 16:49.49 | Jayce^ | hunter was more drama/real cop |
| 16:49.55 | Newsome | Magnum PI |
| 16:50.04 | sjansen | Miami Vice! |
| 16:50.05 | Jayce^ | sledgehammer was the 'comedy'... cop who would pull out the LAW |
| 16:50.16 | Newsome | Yeah, Sledgehammer was fun |
| 16:50.41 | Jayce^ | sjansen, you've heard about the miami vice movie coming out? |
| 16:50.47 | sjansen | no |
| 16:51.24 | Jayce^ | Colin Farrell and Jamie Foxx are supposed to be starring |
| 16:52.04 | Newsome | Anyone remember The Equalizer? |
| 16:52.10 | sjansen | not sure how I feel about that |
| 16:56.05 | hans | Who needs principles when you have FREE FOOD?! |
| 16:57.39 | hans | I loved max |
| 16:57.51 | Jayce^ | hans, satchel++ |
| 16:58.31 | lukfugl | mmm, Puppy Chunx |
| 17:01.13 | xbmodder-treo | rm -rf . ;pwd |
| 17:02.08 | lukfugl | rm: cannot remove `.' or `..' |
| 17:02.40 | lukfugl | apparently his rm could... |
| 17:03.40 | Maquis | GAH! |
| 17:03.45 | Maquis | stupid thing |
| 17:04.08 | hans | what a beautiful day. doesn't it make you wish school was out Maquis ? |
| 17:04.17 | Maquis | ~lart hans |
| 17:04.37 | sjansen | hans: school? |
| 17:04.42 | brailsmt | how do I close a split in screen? |
| 17:04.55 | Maquis | ok... so, whenever i have any program call fsync(), it hangs |
| 17:04.58 | sjansen | Oh, wait, that's that place I went before graduating. |
| 17:05.05 | Maquis | for example, the command 'sync' hangs |
| 17:05.28 | Jayce^ | I see sjansen has finally caught up and done what the rest of graduates do... repress memories |
| 17:05.28 | Maquis | hans: did you see my gvim questions early this morning? |
| 17:05.33 | brailsmt | sjansen: i think i did school before graduating too... |
| 17:05.44 | brailsmt | and i may be doing it again... |
| 17:05.48 | hans | Maquis: did you see my answer? |
| 17:05.55 | Maquis | hans: nope... |
| 17:05.58 | Maquis | i'll go look... |
| 17:06.18 | hans | brailsmt: gradschool |
| 17:06.20 | hans | ? |
| 17:06.38 | Maquis | hans: how do i get rid of the scrollbar... it's great to know it's possible... but... how? |
| 17:06.54 | brailsmt | hans: probably, unless my job suddenly improves and pays me what i am worth... |
| 17:07.18 | sjansen | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:07.21 | brailsmt | slim chance on that... 'software engineer' is still a dirty word around here... |
| 17:07.23 | Maquis | and as for the windows changing heights, it shrinks by a few lines... |
| 17:07.36 | brailsmt | yet, that is what i do... |
| 17:08.22 | brailsmt | since it isn't a bug |
| 17:08.44 | lukfugl | brailsmt + grad school => 50% increase in worht, 20% increase in pay (to about where he should be paid now) |
| 17:09.01 | brailsmt | anyway... /me complains about work too much |
| 17:09.03 | lukfugl | not that I'm bashing grad school, I'll be going eventually too :) |
| 17:09.42 | brailsmt | i gotta get my wife through school first, so she can put me through grad school without losing the home... |
| 17:10.10 | brailsmt | fortunately she wants to be a nurse, which is a good field all around... |
| 17:10.50 | brailsmt | if i didn't get sick when working with biological things, i would probably consider being a nurse... with the nursing shortage and all... |
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| 17:12.03 | brailsmt | and its not like nursing can be outsourced... |
| 17:12.08 | brailsmt | :) |
| 17:12.13 | brailsmt | errr... |
| 17:12.14 | brailsmt | :( |
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| 17:49.47 | levi | Oh boy, belly dancers in Linux Journal. |
| 17:50.57 | lukfugl | what? |
| 17:52.09 | sjansen | LJ is experimenting to see if centerfolds will increase readership. |
| 17:52.21 | lukfugl | heh |
| 18:02.17 | sjansen | http://www.hitachigst.com/hdd/research/recording_head/pr/index.html |
| 18:02.24 | sjansen | Get perpendicular! |
| 18:02.38 | sjansen | Whoo-ooa! |
| 18:02.39 | sjansen | Get perpendicular! |
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| 18:13.34 | sjansen | http://www.cisco.com/edu/peterpacket |
| 18:13.50 | sjansen | So who would win in a fight? Peter Packet or Mr. Bit? |
| 18:13.59 | hans | I think today is sjansen's work it off day |
| 18:14.35 | hans | he's indulged in too much serious work, so today he is paying for it with an increase in pointless excecises. ;-) |
| 18:14.43 | hans | exactly how I feel today. Maybe I'm projecting. |
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| 18:15.32 | sjansen | When the cat's away, the mice will play. |
| 18:15.40 | sjansen | emnabb isn't here to keep me on task ;-) |
| 18:15.46 | hans | hehe |
| 18:16.16 | sjansen | Actually, I'm trying to figure out how to get ConTeXt to clip overflow. |
| 18:16.31 | sjansen | Spend that much time in a browser and... |
| 18:16.47 | hans | say no more |
| 18:17.16 | Jayce^ | he shoulda come paintballing on saturday |
| 18:17.32 | hans | at least you haven't gotten trapped in tmbw.net yet. |
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| 18:18.31 | sjansen | Besides, it's lunch. |
| 18:18.36 | sjansen | Jayce^: You didn't invite me. |
| 18:18.46 | hans | that's why I'm hungry? |
| 18:18.54 | Jayce^ | loaned my gun out already |
| 18:19.17 | sjansen | You expect me to get my own gun just so that you can shoot at me? |
| 18:19.36 | sjansen | I should charge _you_ for the target practice. |
| 18:19.54 | sjansen | (Well, that is, if hitting me were more challenging...) |
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| 18:47.20 | spr | ~lart hans for mentioning tmbw.net |
| 18:47.31 | hans | :) |
| 18:51.59 | sjansen | bah! /me quickly scrambles back to google |
| 19:10.19 | sjansen | Yay! We have clipping! |
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| 19:16.44 | Jayce^ | dang, some funny stuff today |
| 19:16.46 | Jayce^ | http://www.pastiche.info/topliens/zik/numanumaye.htm |
| 19:17.08 | sjansen | o/~ come on and come to my house, ladies! Come on and come to my house, girls girls! ~/o |
| 19:24.03 | hans | while we're wasting time, let's talk about the bk saga |
| 19:24.26 | lukfugl | what's the latest on that? |
| 19:24.33 | hans | so andrew tridgell was "the employee"? The author of rsync. |
| 19:24.35 | hans | "I did not use BitKeeper at all in writing this tool and thus was never subject to the BitKeeper license. I developed the tool in a completely ethical and legal manner." |
| 19:24.55 | hans | so it was _only_ because of his association with OSDL |
| 19:25.03 | hans | started the samba project |
| 19:26.12 | lukfugl | rsync? |
| 19:26.21 | Jayce^ | hehe |
| 19:26.31 | Jayce^ | bk was just looking for a reason |
| 19:26.35 | sjansen | rysnc == grad. project / samba == avoiding grad. project |
| 19:26.40 | hans | heh |
| 19:26.43 | lukfugl | heh |
| 19:26.53 | hans | rsync is extremely cool |
| 19:27.08 | sjansen | very extremely super mega tubular cool |
| 19:27.11 | lukfugl | rsync is cool, but doesn't seem to be in the same category as bitkeeper |
| 19:27.12 | hans | and linus is writing a not-really-a-SCM |
| 19:27.14 | sjansen | Don Johnson cool. |
| 19:27.14 | hans | called git |
| 19:27.54 | Jayce^ | git-er-done |
| 19:28.09 | lukfugl | category meaning "intended use", not level of usefulness or anything like that |
| 19:28.50 | hans | oh it's not. rsync isn't the competitor |
| 19:28.50 | sjansen | "Don't be such a git, Larry." |
| 19:28.50 | fozz | ~seen tene |
| 19:28.52 | ibot | tene <~tene@slacker.developer.poipu> was last seen on IRC in channel #utah, 6d 20h 53m 53s ago, saying: '~brailsmt'. |
| 19:28.52 | hans | I don't know what it's called or whether it's anywhere near releasable |
| 19:29.01 | fozz | Whoa. |
| 19:29.02 | hans | sjansen: or aimed at tridge. linus and mcvoy are pals after all |
| 19:29.18 | hans | that doesn't mean you can't think your pal is being a git |
| 19:29.44 | sjansen | ~git hans |
| 19:29.47 | ibot | ACTION hans is a total smeghead! |
| 19:30.11 | sjansen | no, ibot, git $who is <say> $who is a total smeghead |
| 19:30.34 | sjansen | ibot, no git $who is <say> $who is a total smeghead |
| 19:30.36 | ibot | sjansen: okay |
| 19:30.43 | sjansen | Who says ibot doesn't have good larts? |
| 19:31.23 | fozz | H for... Hilarious? |
| 19:31.27 | sjansen | ibot, git $who is also <action> declares $who a total smeghead |
| 19:31.29 | ibot | <say> $who is also <action> declares $who a total smeghead is a total smeghead |
| 19:31.48 | sjansen | ibot, no git $who is <action> declares $who a total smeghead |
| 19:31.49 | ibot | okay, sjansen |
| 19:32.10 | sjansen | ~git Jayce^ |
| 19:32.13 | ibot | ACTION declares Jayce^ a total smeghead |
| 19:32.25 | fozz | ~git myself |
| 19:32.28 | ibot | ACTION declares myself a total smeghead |
| 19:32.28 | sjansen | I'm more of a Kryton and a Rimmer in my opinion. |
| 19:32.32 | brailsmt | ~git ibot |
| 19:32.34 | ibot | ACTION declares ibot a total smeghead |
| 19:32.39 | brailsmt | see |
| 19:32.44 | brailsmt | `lart ibot |
| 19:32.46 | sjansen | I'm more of a Kryton than a Rimmer in my opinion. |
| 19:32.48 | brailsmt | ~lart ibot |
| 19:32.52 | brailsmt | see... |
| 19:33.10 | fozz | ~git some food |
| 19:33.12 | ibot | ACTION declares some food a total smeghead |
| 19:33.17 | Jayce^ | ~git er done |
| 19:33.19 | ibot | ACTION declares er done a total smeghead |
| 19:33.20 | brailsmt | ~git r don |
| 19:33.23 | ibot | ACTION declares r don a total smeghead |
| 19:34.06 | Ace_Rimmer | Ah, just right. |
| 19:34.38 | Jayce^ | so with these fun movies-from-old-tv-shows coming out, when do we get a Red Dwarf Movie? :) |
| 19:35.02 | lukfugl | heh |
| 19:35.23 | Jayce^ | so, who should we cast in this movie? ideas? |
| 19:35.43 | Ace_Rimmer | The originals, of course, just like Star Trek. |
| 19:36.13 | Ace_Rimmer | Although sjansen would be a more convincing Ace Rimmer, er, me. |
| 19:38.37 | fozz | Man. Today's Engrish.com is classic. |
| 19:38.47 | brailsmt | and i have been forced to watched a few hours of it... |
| 19:38.50 | hans | is there something in the air today? |
| 19:39.44 | Ace_Rimmer | brailsmt: You are an uncultured git. |
| 19:40.24 | sjansen | Next you'll be saying you don't like Red Green. |
| 19:41.29 | Bob_McKenzie | brailsmt: You're a real hoser, hoser. |
| 19:41.49 | Jayce^ | shut up, you nobs |
| 19:43.38 | spr | ~lart pbs for not starting shows on time |
| 19:45.02 | brailsmt | http://www.engrish.com/recent_detail.php?imagename=poisonous-evil-rubbish.jpg&category=Engrish%20from%20Other%20Countries&date=2005-03-14 |
| 19:45.07 | brailsmt | thats a fun one |
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| 19:49.11 | hans | spr: I've missed the end of doctor who a few times because of that |
| 19:49.25 | hans | ~lart anyone who does pledge drives |
| 19:50.14 | sjansen | hans: pledge drive would go away if you just ponied up your pledge the first day |
| 19:50.29 | hans | http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=AlsaHumour |
| 19:54.51 | spr | sjansen, you could help out too. I've missed 3 episodes of Red Dwarf (or most of an episode) |
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| 19:55.39 | hans | somehow I don't think my $5 pledge would abort the pledge drive. |
| 19:56.03 | sjansen | free loader |
| 19:56.58 | Ace_Rimmer | I'm ashamed for you hans. But because my light bee is damaged, I have no choice but to offer you my wig. |
| 19:57.25 | Newsome | Hey, Hoser |
| 19:57.30 | Bob_McKenzie | Jayce^: It wasn't me, it was hans! |
| 19:57.37 | Newsome | Take off, eh |
| 19:57.52 | Bob_McKenzie | Newsome: hoser |
| 19:58.05 | Jayce^ | daaaad, he dropped your beer |
| 19:58.36 | hans | hey, I donated my car to KUER |
| 19:58.41 | hans | it took them 1.5 months to pick it up, too. |
| 19:59.31 | sjansen | You obviously didn't harass them enough. I called the kidney foundation daily for a week. |
| 19:59.41 | hans | heh |
| 20:00.19 | hans | and then KUER has the gall to go around doing a radio pledge drive. tv pledge drives are bad enough |
| 20:00.39 | hans | they might as well have gone off the air |
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| 20:06.12 | Jayce^ | w00t! |
| 20:06.17 | Jayce^ | piggy's back |
| 20:07.19 | HarleyPig | oink |
| 20:07.27 | HarleyPig | Anyone hear of Catalyst? |
| 20:07.44 | HarleyPig | in terms of perl |
| 20:07.53 | Jayce^ | yes |
| 20:07.59 | lukfugl | only by name |
| 20:08.09 | Jayce^ | haven't had time to play with it though |
| 20:08.18 | lukfugl | I know it's a successor to Maypole, ala Ruby on rails, but haven't heard any more than that |
| 20:08.29 | HarleyPig | The tutorial is incorrect and I'm having a difficult time getting it working. |
| 20:08.44 | HarleyPig | lukfugl: Yeah |
| 20:09.17 | Jayce^ | I wouldn't rate maypole with RoR, but it was pretty good |
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| 20:10.18 | lukfugl | agreed. I've used both RoR and Maypole (admittedly only cursory use of Maypole) and don't place them in the same category. I'd heard Catalyst was a step in that direction though. |
| 20:11.20 | Jayce^ | sjansen, just get it done :) |
| 20:20.59 | levi | I've heard lots of good things about RoR. |
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| 20:23.35 | Uncle_Jesse | Hola fellas |
| 20:24.09 | Uncle_Jesse | does fellas mean anything in spanish? |
| 20:24.20 | Uncle_Jesse | I hope I didn't say anything rude |
| 20:25.28 | sjansen | HarleyPig, Uncle_Jesse... It's like old times! |
| 20:26.01 | brailsmt | Uncle_Jesse: no |
| 20:26.30 | brailsmt | make it 'fallas' and it means 'faults' |
| 20:27.02 | Uncle_Jesse | I've been moving - finally got my server up again |
| 20:27.14 | Uncle_Jesse | I hate moving |
| 20:27.54 | Uncle_Jesse | brailsmt: where to? |
| 20:28.06 | brailsmt | a little town here in Missouri... |
| 20:28.26 | Uncle_Jesse | ah - did I miss the message? |
| 20:28.32 | brailsmt | about 100 yards north of the southern most border of Jackson Coutny |
| 20:28.42 | brailsmt | :) |
| 20:28.46 | brailsmt | but still in zion |
| 20:28.47 | brailsmt | :D |
| 20:28.49 | brailsmt | :p |
| 20:29.09 | Uncle_Jesse | Maybe I missed the message during the move |
| 20:29.48 | brailsmt | Uncle_Jesse: i moved to Missouri after i graduated about a year and a half ago |
| 20:30.37 | levi | What kind of mountain biking do they have there? |
| 20:30.55 | brailsmt | levi: they have plains biking... |
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| 20:30.59 | brailsmt | :( |
| 20:31.09 | levi | brailsmt: Time to take up road biking. :) |
| 20:31.16 | brailsmt | there are some nice technical trails around here, but nothing like Utah |
| 20:31.38 | brailsmt | lots of obstacles and stuff, but no big downhills, as you might imagine... |
| 20:31.57 | brailsmt | there are no big uphills either... :D |
| 20:32.05 | brailsmt | gotta look at the bright side :) |
| 20:32.17 | levi | Aww, they're half the fun. |
| 20:32.40 | levi | I have a whole group I ride with at work, and at least all the ringleaders love hills, so we do a lot of them. ;) |
| 20:32.47 | sjansen | Getting hit in the head by a flying rock being the other half? |
| 20:32.51 | brailsmt | my favorite uphill is the stairs section of the deer creek south fork loop |
| 20:33.10 | levi | Which part is the stairs section? |
| 20:33.16 | levi | We do that trail all the time, when it's rideable. |
| 20:33.23 | brailsmt | levi: right before you go into the trees... |
| 20:33.32 | brailsmt | about half way through |
| 20:33.35 | Uncle_Jesse | I live on a hill at least |
| 20:33.48 | Uncle_Jesse | I can almost see over all the trees |
| 20:35.49 | brailsmt | levi: not to much before you take the right where it splits into ridge trail 157 (straight ahead), the one goes to the resevoir (on the left), and the beginning of the long downhill section |
| 20:36.11 | sjansen | And I was just about to solve the problem. |
| 20:36.15 | Uncle_Jesse | It is so tempting to sell our new house, take the equity, and move back to Utah |
| 20:36.19 | sjansen | Stupid printer. |
| 20:36.24 | Uncle_Jesse | my wife would love me and kill me at the same time |
| 20:36.56 | levi | brailsmt: So it's a fairly long but not too steep section with lots of views? |
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| 20:39.15 | brailsmt | levi: it isn't really 'stairs' its the section you climb over the water bars |
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| 20:40.05 | levi | brailsmt: So you come out of a long downhill, turn right, and go up a steep gravelly section? |
| 20:43.06 | Uncle_Jesse | ~you there? |
| 20:43.08 | ibot | Of course I am! |
| 20:43.19 | Uncle_Jesse | ~long time no see! |
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| 20:49.57 | Uncle_Jesse | PingWho? |
| 20:51.12 | Uncle_Jesse | I guess it should be PingWhom? |
| 20:51.55 | brailsmt | levi: i don't remember it being gravelly, but yeah that sounds right... |
| 20:54.49 | brailsmt | it is the last really tough climb of the trail... the rest of the climbs are little ones that you can almost coast over |
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| 20:55.29 | brailsmt | the first really tough climb being the one shortly after the summit which has a great view of the backside of timp |
| 20:55.42 | brailsmt | and that one is gravelly, IIRC |
| 20:58.44 | Uncle_Jesse | well, time to go home - cya guys later |
| 21:02.13 | brailsmt | though not by choice |
| 21:04.45 | sjansen | m4d sk1llZ even |
| 21:05.36 | brailsmt | |\/|4d 5k111z |
| 21:06.28 | sjansen | See what I mean. Perl has obviously made you smarter than me. |
| 21:06.43 | brailsmt | no, i find perl has the opposite effect... |
| 21:06.52 | brailsmt | ruby makes you smarter |
| 21:07.07 | brailsmt | heck even bf makes you smarter |
| 21:08.44 | HarleyPig | perl just makes you twisty |
| 21:08.53 | HarleyPig | and obfuscatory. |
| 21:09.20 | brailsmt | no, i mean perl... |
| 21:10.12 | brailsmt | and i have to work on someone else's code, and this someone else has many coding 'issues'... |
| 21:11.09 | brailsmt | like consistent naming or spacing, comlete lack of self-documenting variables, 300-400 line methods... |
| 21:11.32 | brailsmt | and, eys, i am looking for a new job... |
| 21:11.33 | brailsmt | :) |
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| 21:37.02 | hans | so, does anyone here get bored playing clue? |
| 21:39.16 | brailsmt | b/me raises his hand |
| 21:39.21 | brailsmt | grr... |
| 21:42.53 | hans | because of clue's limits or because clue is boring to you? |
| 21:43.01 | hans | i'd better make that clarification |
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| 21:49.00 | brailsmt | because the game is boring... |
| 21:49.33 | brailsmt | or the Farming Game |
| 21:50.02 | brailsmt | after settlers most other games don't seem as fun... |
| 21:50.18 | ggundy | Anyone need Cisco IP Phone Power Supply for 7940 7960 IP Phones? |
| 21:50.20 | brailsmt | i highly recommend it |
| 21:50.50 | brailsmt | the board is different every game |
| 21:50.52 | ggundy | Kinda sucks to pay $10 for shipping when the part is $10. So I'm buying 10 or so... |
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| 21:57.19 | levi | I like my Risk 2210 game. |
| 21:59.10 | brailsmt | nevr seen that one |
| 22:00.04 | levi | It's pretty similar to regular Risk, but it has a fixed number of rounds and some extra elements of play to mix things up. |
| 22:02.42 | brailsmt | settlers of catan is a little bit of risk, monopoly and starcraft... :) |
| 22:02.49 | brailsmt | all mixed into one |
| 22:03.01 | levi | I play Settlers a lot. |
| 22:03.32 | levi | I like it, but I usually don't want to play more than one game of it in a sitting. |
| 22:04.19 | brailsmt | i have only played it 4 times, but i bought it after the first time :) |
| 22:04.25 | brailsmt | and i plan on playing many more times... |
| 22:04.37 | brailsmt | i am currently undefeated :) |
| 22:04.45 | levi | Heh. That'll change. |
| 22:04.49 | brailsmt | not that that will last |
| 22:05.19 | levi | I've had some pretty decent winning streaks, but there's enough chance involved to keep anyone from dominating. |
| 22:06.16 | brailsmt | yep |
| 22:07.30 | brailsmt | my strategy has yet ot lose though :) put a settlement on a junction with a 6 or 8, and then put another on a junction with a 2:1 trade for the same resource with the 6 or 8 :) |
| 22:07.45 | brailsmt | then win... |
| 22:07.52 | brailsmt | though i nearly got beat last time... |
| 22:09.10 | levi | 2:1 trade ports are nice. |
| 22:10.25 | Jayce^ | was crazy seeing that many people playing the game |
| 22:10.44 | brailsmt | hehe, the first game i played i had 2:1 brick and 3 cities around a 6 brick... |
| 22:10.56 | brailsmt | the game went fast after that... |
| 22:11.27 | brailsmt | its s good game to play with company... |
| 22:11.40 | brailsmt | its quick to pick up, and only last 60-90 minutes |
| 22:12.07 | Jayce^ | just remember, when playing, don't go on the same numbers I'm on... they never hit |
| 22:12.31 | brailsmt | lol |
| 22:12.36 | brailsmt | thats me on monopoly... |
| 22:13.28 | brailsmt | i could havethe whole board, but my wife would only ever land on chance the railroads and the other 'cheap' properties... |
| 22:13.39 | brailsmt | if she has a single property, i will land on it every time |
| 22:14.01 | brailsmt | until i go bankrupt... |
| 22:14.24 | brailsmt | or get so mad i quit... |
| 22:14.28 | brailsmt | :D |
| 22:14.40 | brailsmt | :D) <-- double chin |
| 22:16.22 | brailsmt | quitting time... (here at least) :) |
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| 22:16.41 | levi | http://boardgames.about.com/library/weekly/aa071701a.htm |
| 22:16.41 | sjansen | We have alternating page numbers! |
| 22:16.50 | levi | That's a review of Risk 2210. |
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| 22:34.50 | vontrapp | sjansen: alternating page numbers? |
| 22:35.08 | sjansen | ConTeXt. |
| 22:35.27 | sjansen | I've opted to roll my own positioning instead of using the built in. |
| 22:37.57 | xbmodder | ? |
| 22:45.59 | neybar | does anyone know how to make the boot process pause for a driver to load? I have ata_piix in /etc/modules problem is that it takes 30 seconds or so for the driver to recognize the drives. From the time the driver gets loaded to the point that filesystems are checked and mounted is less then the driver load time. So I get a big error message saying that my filesystem is corrupt and to run fsck manually. If I just wait a second and hit crtl-D I can resume |
| 22:45.59 | neybar | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:46.45 | lukfugl | ~lart vontrapp |
| 22:47.05 | lukfugl | vontrapp: read your other channels :) |
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| 22:47.20 | vontrapp | i just did :-P |
| 22:47.22 | xbmodder | neybar, can you make ata_piix built in? |
| 22:47.37 | neybar | probably |
| 22:47.43 | lukfugl | ok, I'm going home now, then |
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| 22:48.03 | xbmodder | neybar, do you know C++? |
| 22:48.27 | neybar | not enough to poke around in a kernel... it has been quite a long time since school. |
| 22:48.29 | xbmodder | i mean C |
| 22:49.04 | vontrapp | afternoons are too hot, the sun comes right in this huge window :( |
| 22:49.33 | beandog | man bootparams or something isnt it? |
| 22:49.52 | beandog | er, minus the s. |
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| 22:57.34 | sjansen | ~pinch emcnabb |
| 22:58.22 | emcnabb | um... |
| 22:58.23 | emcnabb | ok... |
| 22:58.47 | sjansen | emcnabb: thank you, ibot is being lazy I guess |
| 23:07.01 | bucky | ~status |
| 23:07.02 | ibot | Since Tue Mar 29 19:00:34 2005, there have been 133 modifications, 1224 questions, 0 dunnos, 0 morons and 1306 commands. I have been awake for 13d 4h 6m 27s this session, and currently reference 108481 factoids. I'm using about 22100 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 32892.87/1707.84 child 2002.16/183.14 |
| 23:08.53 | bucky | ~ibot why are you being lazy? |
| 23:08.56 | ibot | bucky: I think you lost me on that one |
| 23:12.32 | bucky | American universities fall way behind in programming |
| 23:12.34 | bucky | http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2005/04/09/BUG9EC5LBI1.DTL |
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| 23:46.49 | SpecialK | I'm installing gtk on a powerbook and it wants me to install XFree86 in place of X11. Is this necessary? |
| 23:48.01 | sjansen | Distro? |
| 23:52.52 | SpecialK | OSX, sorry |
| 23:53.07 | sjansen | apt-get install linux |
| 23:53.27 | SpecialK | not my computer to do that with. |
| 23:53.40 | levi | sjansen: Bah. |
| 23:53.41 | sjansen | I suspect the package is old. OS X didn't originally come with X11. |
| 23:53.57 | levi | SpecialK: How are you installing gtk? |
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| 23:55.32 | SpecialK | fink |
| 23:55.33 | levi | I believe there's a fink package you can install to say 'I have OS X's X11' |
| 23:55.54 | levi | It should be documented somewhere on fink's site. |
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