| 00:11.45 | spr | "These go to eleven" |
| 00:20.14 | synic | spr: well... why don't you just make 10 louder? |
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| 00:46.56 | findlay | nah |
| 00:47.10 | findlay | ~char[8] |
| 00:47.11 | ibot | methinks char[8] is the ideal length of a nick |
| 00:47.19 | findlay | right you are ibot |
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| 01:55.53 | mhalcrow | Now if only my speakers weren't so ghetto. |
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| 02:05.30 | emcnabb | mhalcrow, how's it going? |
| 02:07.22 | mhalcrow | emcnabb, not bad. I finally released eCryptfs. :-) |
| 02:07.37 | emcnabb | cool |
| 02:08.04 | mhalcrow | I'm kind of keeping it on the down-low until the maintainer releases a tarball, but it is in CVS, and it does work. |
| 02:10.31 | emcnabb | I'm looking at the SF page right now... |
| 02:11.02 | mhalcrow | Hours of fun and excitement! |
| 02:11.05 | indessed | Hey, does anyone know if you can get an adapter to hook speakers (with bare wires) up to, say, the "line out" jack in a sound card? |
| 02:11.15 | mhalcrow | Uh........ |
| 02:11.21 | indessed | I've been searching online and have found everything from "yeah, just solder it" to "no, you'll blow up everything!" |
| 02:11.36 | emcnabb | who is Michael Weisbach? |
| 02:12.07 | mhalcrow | Michael Weisbach is an IBM'er in Germany who has an interest in eCryptfs. |
| 02:12.08 | indessed | I figured there would be EE people around here who could steer me straight :-) |
| 02:12.14 | emcnabb | gotcha |
| 02:12.31 | mhalcrow | indessed: The power output of the line out is in the sub-watt range. You need many times that to drive a speaker. |
| 02:12.44 | mhalcrow | In other words, an *amplifier*. |
| 02:12.53 | indessed | Someone else said that you could do it, but it'd be really quiet and so it'd be best just to rip apart a crappy PC speaker set and connect the speaker wires. |
| 02:12.54 | mhalcrow | And a mixer, if you want things like volume control. |
| 02:13.33 | indessed | Yeah, sounds like some of the things I've been reading. (And wholly unlike others. Good ol' Interweb.) |
| 02:13.54 | mhalcrow | emcnabb: I'm working on a pluggable PKI API at the moment. Hopefully I'll have that released next week, and you'll be able to use GnuPG keyrings with it then. |
| 02:14.19 | indessed | So do you think there would be any sort of device you could get to do that that would be cheaper than simply buying a cheap stereo with "video out" RCA plugs in the back? |
| 02:14.50 | indessed | Hmmm... maybe DI would have a cheapo stereo that would suffice ... |
| 02:15.01 | mhalcrow | Yeah. Or build your own op-amp. ;-) |
| 02:15.10 | indessed | I'm CS, not EE :-) |
| 02:15.12 | indessed | For a reason. |
| 02:15.20 | mhalcrow | Of course, that tends to require at least 2 years of EE courses and 4 months of work. |
| 02:15.33 | indessed | Also note I said "cheaper than buying a stereo." |
| 02:15.37 | indessed | ;-) |
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| 02:16.11 | mhalcrow | Hi Frank. |
| 02:16.30 | Newsome | hi, mhalcrow |
| 02:16.39 | Newsome | How's Austin these days? |
| 02:16.47 | mhalcrow | Good. Looking for some fun and excitement in your life? sf.net/projects/ecryptfs |
| 02:17.01 | mhalcrow | I've already got the air conditioner on. :-( |
| 02:17.10 | indessed | ewwww |
| 02:18.02 | mhalcrow | The summer starts early and lasts twice as long as it should in Austin. |
| 02:18.41 | mhalcrow | Can anyone interpret this from the MPlayer man page? |
| 02:18.47 | mhalcrow | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:18.55 | mhalcrow | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:18.55 | mhalcrow | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:19.03 | indessed | Ever miss the Utahns saying, "Oh my, it's so humid today!" when it's like 25% humidity? |
| 02:19.10 | mhalcrow | :-) |
| 02:19.25 | mhalcrow | Ahhhhh... I think I see now... |
| 02:19.34 | indessed | Good, 'cos I sure don't. |
| 02:19.44 | mhalcrow | Newsome: The BBQ there is somewhat disappointing. |
| 02:19.55 | indessed | Every time I have something I want to do with mplayer, the documentation just confuses me even more. |
| 02:20.00 | mhalcrow | Although the honey butter and fresh bread isn't that bad. |
| 02:20.19 | mhalcrow | I need to mix channels 2 and 3 into the front channels. |
| 02:20.30 | mhalcrow | I only have 4-channel output with my cheap speakers. |
| 02:20.51 | indessed | more than me, i'm afraid. |
| 02:21.15 | indessed | Unless I plug my other speaker wires into my other line out jack ... hmmm .... |
| 02:21.33 | mhalcrow | indessed: Sit down before your hurt yourself. |
| 02:21.51 | indessed | Hehehe. Come on, I want to solder! It'll be fun! |
| 02:22.19 | indessed | You can solder stuff to your sound card jacks, right? And I probably don't have to turn the computer off either, I'm sure it'll be fine ... |
| 02:22.41 | mhalcrow | Just get a cable from Radio Shack and splice the wires. Don't mess with your jacks. |
| 02:23.13 | indessed | I thought you said it won't work without an amp? |
| 02:23.39 | mhalcrow | Correct. Unless your speakers have build-in amps. |
| 02:23.54 | indessed | (And I wasn't really planning on soldering anything, ha. I did find wires here though: |
| 02:23.54 | indessed | http://www.radioshack.com/product.asp?cookie%5Ftest=1&catalog%5Fname=CTLG&product%5Fid=42-2449 |
| 02:23.56 | mhalcrow | And impedence mismatch can wreck havoc. |
| 02:23.57 | indessed | ) |
| 02:24.53 | indessed | But if it's that much of a hassle I'll probably just end up buying a stereo or something to avoid blowing the computer up or burning the house down. |
| 02:24.57 | mhalcrow | Newsome: Are you from Austin? |
| 02:25.17 | mhalcrow | indessed: I would recommend that. It's more time/trouble/risk than it's worth. |
| 02:25.20 | Newsome | mhalcrow, no. I've just been down there several times for conferences |
| 02:25.31 | mhalcrow | Newsome: coming to OLS this year? :-) |
| 02:27.56 | Newsome | probably not. They'll only pay for me to go to one thing, and OLS probably won't be it. |
| 02:28.14 | mhalcrow | Well, one thing is better than none.... |
| 02:29.15 | mhalcrow | I only get conferences paid for it I get a paper accepted. :-/ |
| 02:29.39 | mhalcrow | And then that only includes travel, since the admission fee is waved if you're publishing in the conference. |
| 02:30.26 | mhalcrow | Some folks from my team is going to talk about how they're implementing Trusted Computing in Linux. |
| 02:30.46 | mhalcrow | I can just imagine the Q&A session after the presentation........ |
| 02:30.52 | mhalcrow | s/is/are |
| 02:32.48 | Newsome | Last year, I went to a Red Hat certification thing. Not sure what I want to do tomorrow. |
| 02:32.55 | Newsome | er, this year |
| 02:33.21 | mhalcrow | I'm tempted to go to the Blind Signature Patent Expiration Party at Hack '05. |
| 02:33.46 | mhalcrow | July 19th, the Reign of Terror ends! |
| 02:33.57 | mhalcrow | Digital cash shall flow freely through the streets! |
| 02:41.58 | mhalcrow | pan=6:1:0:0:0:1:0:0:1:0:0:0:1:0:0:1:0:0:0:0:0:0:1:0:0 |
| 02:42.07 | mhalcrow | That's how you mix the center channels into the front channels. |
| 02:42.12 | mhalcrow | What a mess.... |
| 02:42.20 | indessed | wow. that's the most obscure mplayer command i've ever seen. |
| 02:42.22 | indessed | and that's saying a lot. |
| 02:42.59 | mhalcrow | I have scripts that would make your head spin. :-) |
| 02:43.28 | indessed | Ha! |
| 02:43.31 | indessed | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:43.49 | mhalcrow | mencoder homevid.vob -ofps 29.97 -vop scale=704:368,crop=704:320:8:84 -ovc lavc -lavcopts vpass=1:vcodec=mpeg4:vbitrate=1387:vhq:vlelim=-4:vcelim=9:lumi_mask=0.05:dark_mask=0.01 -oac copy -o home_vid.avi -alang en -aid 128 |
| 02:44.26 | mhalcrow | transcode gets downright obscene. |
| 02:44.26 | indessed | hmmm. not as bad as the other one, I'd say. |
| 02:44.38 | indessed | This one has text like "lumi_mask" that at least gives you an idea of what's going on. |
| 02:45.03 | indessed | the problem for me is trying to figure out when to use mencoder vs. mplayer |
| 02:45.25 | indessed | because if you use the wrong one with certain options, it won't just say, "This option is for mplayer only! Use that instead, with such-and-such option, and all will be well." |
| 02:45.36 | indessed | It'll just croak with some strange and unforgiving error message. |
| 02:46.11 | mhalcrow | :-) |
| 02:46.19 | mhalcrow | I've got some code in MPlayer (EDL). |
| 02:46.47 | indessed | Isn't that the skip-certain-parts code? |
| 02:46.54 | mhalcrow | Yeah. |
| 02:46.57 | indessed | I remember a thread on the UUG about that a while back. |
| 02:47.07 | mhalcrow | mute, skip |
| 02:47.11 | indessed | I also remember I wanted to use it for something, but I've forgotten now. Ah well. |
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| 03:48.25 | LeviHome | Goood evening. |
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| 04:59.19 | spr | "mmm... 64 slices of american cheese" |
| 04:59.31 | spr | "Homer were you up all night eating cheese?" |
| 04:59.36 | spr | "I think I'm blind!" |
| 06:17.32 | findlay | All your base are belong to us |
| 06:19.27 | findlay | You have no chance to survive make your time. |
| 06:19.53 | findlay | Take off every 'Zig'!! You know what you doing. Move 'Zig'. For great justice. |
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| 06:42.02 | Maquis | GAH!!! |
| 06:42.15 | Maquis | i've started getting spam from "LDS Advertising" |
| 06:42.21 | Maquis | WindRiver distributing |
| 07:51.16 | findlay | aaah, or does he.... |
| 07:54.37 | findlay | darn, 'Can't contact LDAP server' |
| 07:57.18 | findlay | Wir müssen wissen. Wir werden wissen. |
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| 08:02.46 | ibot | Since Tue Mar 29 19:00:34 2005, there have been 107 modifications, 1016 questions, 0 dunnos, 0 morons and 1041 commands. I have been awake for 10d 13h 2m 11s this session, and currently reference 108473 factoids. I'm using about 20920 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 26102.19/1419.28 child 1598.3/141.72 |
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| 12:39.06 | ibot | timriker <~timr@TimRiker.active.supporter.pdpc> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 14h 23m 21s ago, saying: 'bzflagwiz: =)'. |
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| 17:18.46 | hans | I did it. I wrote a review |
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| 20:08.47 | Maquis | if you need a question to start the discussion: |
| 20:09.03 | Maquis | "what is beauty?" :) |
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| 20:15.12 | tierra | anyone have any advice of a good place in SLC to pick up 1000 ft of cat5/6 ? |
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| 20:26.37 | HarleyPig | Anyone using Gentoo and able to get mod_perl and apache1 working? |
| 20:28.10 | tierra | Everybody who's done installing it, probably. |
| 20:28.15 | tierra | So, like three people or so. |
| 20:28.32 | HarleyPig | :] Are you one of them? |
| 20:29.15 | tierra | On Gentoo? I don't use Gentoo. |
| 20:30.17 | tierra | On Debian, FreeBSD, Slackware, FC, Ubuntu, and Suse I have. |
| 20:30.46 | tierra | Probably some others I can't remember. |
| 20:30.54 | HarleyPig | Oh well. Thsanks. I know how to get mod_perl working, manually ... I was just running into emerge problems. |
| 20:33.19 | Maquis | HarleyPig: i've done apache2 |
| 20:33.24 | Maquis | but not mod_perl, i think |
| 20:34.15 | tierra | HarleyPig: one sec, the real tierra is a 'master ricer', he'll be back momentarily. |
| 20:34.24 | Maquis | HarleyPig: why apache1? what's the advantage??? |
| 20:35.16 | Maquis | tierra: who are you in relation to the "real tierra"? |
| 20:35.26 | tierra | Zen hasn't publically attacked it, perhaps, Maquis. |
| 20:35.35 | Maquis | ??? |
| 20:35.35 | tierra | Maquis: this is dataw0lf. |
| 20:35.39 | Maquis | oh |
| 20:35.39 | tierra | I'm at tierra's house. |
| 20:35.41 | Maquis | ic |
| 20:36.02 | tierra | Zen, fyi, told people to NOT run Apache 2.0 w/ PHP 5 due to problems. |
| 20:36.12 | tierra | Plus, why upgrade to Apache 2.0 if you know Apache 1.3.x? |
| 20:36.36 | tierra | If you're running Gentoo you might as well run a ricer web server anyways (ala lighttpd) |
| 20:36.52 | Maquis | bah... wikipedia only talks about zen buddhism... |
| 20:37.27 | tierra | You shouldn't speak if you're just going to regurgitate Wikis. That's my opinion though. Don't take offense. |
| 20:37.39 | Maquis | no... i'm not trying to speak... |
| 20:37.42 | Maquis | i just want to know what zen is |
| 20:37.44 | tierra | I got that off of wiki.dataw0lf.org |
| 20:37.55 | Maquis | because i don't know anything... :) |
| 20:37.55 | tierra | it's Zend, sorry. |
| 20:37.58 | Maquis | zend |
| 20:37.59 | tierra | www.php.net |
| 20:38.11 | tierra | Heard of it? |
| 20:38.19 | Maquis | no |
| 20:38.22 | Maquis | i've heard of php |
| 20:39.34 | Maquis | wow... php was created by a group of israelis??? i didn't know that! |
| 20:39.42 | byronc | the problem was that apache2 can be a multi-threaded server and some of the libraries php depends on weren't thread safe |
| 20:39.57 | Maquis | byronc: ok... but... |
| 20:40.18 | Maquis | then, if you're running perl, and not php, is apache2 still bad? |
| 20:40.19 | Maquis | or what? |
| 20:40.44 | byronc | afaik, mod_perl is mostly stable on apache2 now, but it's been a long process |
| 20:41.04 | Maquis | ah... |
| 20:41.19 | byronc | mod_perl hooks into many places in apache, when apache makes big changes, mod_perl requires big changes |
| 20:42.01 | Maquis | why was apache released with such big changes if it caused so many problems? what are the advantages? |
| 20:46.09 | Maquis | ooh... |
| 20:46.12 | Maquis | that was smart |
| 20:48.21 | tierra | sorry, tierra wanted to use his computer. |
| 20:48.26 | tierra | pssh, what is he thinking. |
| 20:48.39 | tierra | anyways, I haven't installed Apache 2 on any boxes I have yet. |
| 20:48.45 | byronc | the big reason they wrote/released apache2 is cleanup and new features people wanted: http://httpd.apache.org/docs-2.0/new_features_2_0.html |
| 20:48.49 | tierra | And I don't plan to for at least another couple months. |
| 20:48.58 | byronc | the same reason most software is written/released |
| 20:49.31 | tierra | has anyone been monitoring the LongHorn feature list and how it's been, well, slimming down? |
| 20:49.35 | tierra | that's some good times.\ |
| 20:52.10 | Maquis | so, here's a fun exercise |
| 20:52.42 | Maquis | in one terminal, cd 2 levels into a directory |
| 20:52.56 | Maquis | now, remove the first level directory |
| 20:53.12 | Maquis | (i did it accidentally with a program called unison, but i'm sure rm -rf will work as well) |
| 20:53.23 | Maquis | now cd ll from the dir where you're cd'd in... |
| 20:53.27 | Maquis | s/ll/.. |
| 20:53.43 | Maquis | enjoy your own little private directory :) |
| 20:54.15 | byronc | Maquis: tmpfile() does a similar trick with a file. |
| 20:55.09 | Maquis | byronc: except that the file actually exists, right? |
| 20:55.16 | Maquis | i don't think that this dir actually exists... |
| 20:55.21 | Maquis | it won't let me save anything to it... |
| 20:55.39 | byronc | right, the file does exist, but only until you close it |
| 20:55.46 | Maquis | yeah... |
| 20:56.32 | HarleyPig | maquis ... I'm used to apache1 ... haven't had the time to learn apache2 |
| 20:56.57 | Maquis | HarleyPig: ah... :) |
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| 22:23.55 | zeus | athena: some roman wants to fight |
| 22:24.12 | Maquis | zeus: norse? |
| 22:24.21 | zeus | athena: some norseman wants to fight |
| 22:24.51 | Maquis | :) |
| 22:25.02 | zeus | athena: but she's a girl so you take care of her, k? |
| 22:25.21 | zeus | Maquis: you are right/ |
| 22:25.23 | zeus | ? |
| 22:25.34 | Maquis | zeus: yup |
| 22:25.39 | zeus | yes |
| 22:25.46 | zeus | I mean yessssss |
| 22:25.52 | Maquis | zeus: are you a byu student? |
| 22:25.58 | zeus | no I was |
| 22:26.04 | Maquis | recently? |
| 22:26.10 | zeus | hmmm |
| 22:26.11 | zeus | yeash |
| 22:26.19 | zeus | last April |
| 22:26.27 | Maquis | cool... do i know you? |
| 22:26.34 | zeus | Nate Haggard |
| 22:26.39 | Maquis | hmmm... nope.. |
| 22:26.42 | Maquis | nice to meet you :) |
| 22:26.46 | Maquis | i like your nick |
| 22:26.48 | zeus | and you are? |
| 22:26.51 | Maquis | i'm erin |
| 22:27.01 | zeus | how far along are you? |
| 22:27.03 | zeus | oh I mean |
| 22:27.05 | zeus | are you in Cs? |
| 22:27.09 | Maquis | finishing up the 3rd year in cs |
| 22:27.17 | zeus | wooohoo |
| 22:27.18 | Maquis | cs345, cs404 right now |
| 22:27.35 | zeus | and you are spending saturday in the lab... oh the memories |
| 22:27.47 | Maquis | not in the lab, but on my computer ;) |
| 22:27.58 | zeus | yeah ok |
| 22:28.01 | Maquis | i can't cause any trouble in the labs... |
| 22:28.02 | zeus | nice to meet you |
| 22:28.09 | Maquis | but on my computer, i can do all kinds of fun things |
| 22:28.19 | Maquis | :) |
| 22:28.21 | zeus | do flirting guys come to disrupt you? |
| 22:28.32 | Maquis | i have had that problem on occasion |
| 22:28.47 | zeus | yeah tell me about it that must .... oh wait |
| 22:28.49 | zeus | nm |
| 22:28.50 | Maquis | generally, i just like playing on computers where i can do whatever i want |
| 22:29.14 | Maquis | :) |
| 22:29.17 | zeus | do they have some new harsh restrictions at the lab? |
| 22:29.21 | zeus | what are you doing? |
| 22:29.25 | zeus | should I send athena? |
| 22:30.02 | Maquis | i'm working on my programs, listening to music, backing up my hard drive, and almost killing my filesystem |
| 22:30.05 | Maquis | :) |
| 22:30.23 | Maquis | i found out what happens when your rm -rf the parent of the directory you're currently in :) |
| 22:31.00 | Maquis | so zeus, what distro do the olympian gods run? |
| 22:31.06 | zeus | gent000 |
| 22:31.15 | zeus | and probably debian |
| 22:31.31 | Maquis | both? really :) |
| 22:31.33 | zeus | or macosx |
| 22:31.38 | Maquis | :) |
| 22:31.54 | zeus | is osx still popular among the professors? |
| 22:32.00 | Maquis | somewhat... |
| 22:32.04 | Maquis | a lot of them run winxp |
| 22:32.13 | zeus | yikes |
| 22:32.21 | Maquis | yeah |
| 22:32.30 | zeus | well if they like it better hey |
| 22:32.38 | Maquis | dr mercer used to be on linux, but he switched to osx... |
| 22:32.53 | zeus | I'm about to switch to osx |
| 22:32.54 | Maquis | but it seems like a pretty high percentage of my profs are all on windoze |
| 22:32.55 | zeus | from linux |
| 22:33.01 | zeus | huh |
| 22:33.10 | zeus | it could be age related |
| 22:33.14 | Maquis | out of curiosity, what convinced you to change? |
| 22:33.29 | zeus | I haven't yet |
| 22:33.39 | Maquis | what is convincing you to change :) |
| 22:33.44 | zeus | mac laptops look less nerdy |
| 22:33.52 | Maquis | haha |
| 22:33.56 | zeus | and the apps are nice |
| 22:34.01 | zeus | I like itunes |
| 22:34.07 | zeus | and photo stuff |
| 22:34.12 | Maquis | yeah... itunes would be nice for linux |
| 22:34.37 | zeus | so are you running linux primarily? |
| 22:34.40 | Maquis | i can't see that itunes would be *that* hard to port over... but i could be wrong |
| 22:34.46 | Maquis | i'm only running linux |
| 22:34.54 | Maquis | gentoo right now |
| 22:35.00 | zeus | hehe |
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