| 00:00.24 | hans | levi: why? |
| 00:01.06 | levi | hans: I'm trying to update godaddy.com's nameserver entries for my domain, and it's not letting me use ip addresses or my dsl.xmission.com address. |
| 00:01.15 | levi | hans: How did you get it set up? |
| 00:01.37 | hans | godaddy will let you make a special entry and use that name |
| 00:01.55 | hans | it confused me recently because my IP address had changed but that one I made for godaddy was still saying the old address |
| 00:02.59 | hans | but you might just want to point godaddy at everydns and have everydns replicate what you do |
| 00:03.10 | hans | then you don't have to deal with the bandwidth :) |
| 00:03.31 | levi | What's everydns? |
| 00:03.51 | hans | godaddy calls that special name "Domain Host" - click on "Domain host Summary" |
| 00:04.05 | hans | free dns |
| 00:04.23 | hans | you can use their web interface right there, or set it up to be a slave via axfr |
| 00:06.51 | levi | I couldn't find Domain Host Summary |
| 00:07.00 | levi | I guess I'll just use everydns then. |
| 00:10.25 | levi | Well, I hope that worked... |
| 00:14.18 | levi | How long does it take for everydns to update? |
| 00:14.33 | hans | i don't know about the first time |
| 00:14.43 | hans | on changes, not long. 10 minutes, half an hour, something like that. |
| 00:14.54 | hans | assuming you send the notify |
| 00:17.02 | levi | Send the notify? |
| 00:18.29 | hans | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:18.54 | hans | I'm not sure how it decides who to notify, it might be related to the allow-transfer optino. |
| 00:19.12 | levi | Where's that from? |
| 00:19.33 | hans | the comments in the suse named.conf |
| 00:19.41 | levi | Oh. |
| 00:20.02 | levi | I mean, how long from entering info into everydns until everydns will return info to my queries. |
| 00:20.30 | hans | dunno. probably not too long |
| 00:21.20 | levi | Hopefully it'll be working when I return from spinning. |
| 00:21.36 | hans | spinning? |
| 00:21.43 | levi | indoor cycling |
| 00:22.55 | levi | I told everydns to do secondary, with levi.dsl.xmission.com as my primary. |
| 00:23.11 | levi | And querying the ns at the dsl address works fine. |
| 00:23.16 | levi | So hopefully things will all work. |
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| 00:23.42 | levi | Drupal seems to run painfully slow on my old PIII-450, though. |
| 00:24.25 | scottj | nice, IBM got my laptop back to me already (I sent it tuesday). |
| 00:27.13 | hans | you might need to add the allow-transfer option, depending on your other settings (e.g. you probably don't want to allow transfers from everyone and it's often a default not to allow from anyone) |
| 00:28.44 | hans | allow-transfer { 64.158.219.3; }; |
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| 00:38.01 | levi | hans: I'm using dbjdns, actually. |
| 00:38.38 | levi | I had to set up something else to allow axfrs, apparently. Hopefully what I did works. |
| 00:40.01 | bonez39 | what's a quick way to print out a calendar on Letter sized paper...need to print calendars for April, May and June..each on one page.. |
| 00:40.37 | hans | well, a quick way is the cal command |
| 00:40.59 | hans | cal 2005 | lpr |
| 00:41.06 | hans | that's all of the year on one sheet |
| 00:41.20 | hans | it's not a pretty way though |
| 00:41.57 | bonez39 | ok.....but it's one option... |
| 00:43.20 | Maquis | bonez39: do you have anything like sunbird installed? (a calendar program)??? |
| 00:43.37 | bonez39 | sunbird, is that the calendar with mozilla? |
| 00:43.44 | bonez39 | I don't know..let me check |
| 00:43.45 | Maquis | yup |
| 00:45.10 | bonez39 | not on my system currently.. |
| 00:47.20 | levi | Gah, I can't get the axfr program to work. |
| 00:56.37 | levi | Ahh, there we go. |
| 01:01.20 | bonez39 | Maquis: I loaded scribus...trying to get it working..not sure if this will work though |
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| 01:34.20 | levi | Woo, it appeared to work. |
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| 02:18.27 | Maquis | ~lynch jakea |
| 02:21.08 | levi | Maquis: FAT work yet? |
| 02:23.19 | Mecworks | ~seen amcnabb? |
| 02:23.21 | ibot | amcnabb <~amcnabb@c-67-161-219-228.client.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #utah, 4d 18h 35m 55s ago, saying: 'Good night.'. |
| 02:23.21 | Maquis | levi: not quite... |
| 02:23.52 | Mecworks | ~convert 5280 feet to barleycorns |
| 02:24.45 | levi | Wow, the comment spammers are already hitting my blog at its new location. |
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| 02:39.07 | synic | "comment spammers" ? |
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| 02:40.45 | Maquis | really? |
| 02:40.56 | Maquis | how exactly do you wonder in? |
| 02:41.18 | goozbach | I was just wandering that |
| 02:41.30 | goozbach | it's kinda like blundering in |
| 02:41.41 | goozbach | I was wondering how I got here |
| 02:41.45 | Maquis | :) |
| 02:46.44 | *** topic/#utah by Peregrine -> The source for OSS focused discussion in Utah. See sllug.org, plug.org, uug.byu.edu, uvlug.org, fslc.usu.edu, etc. | Utah Windows Admins Anonymous: utwaa.org | Vote for "None of the Above" for UUG President. |
| 02:47.04 | Maquis | Peregrine: bad choice... |
| 02:47.14 | levi | Hmm, apparently I need to upgrade my grant tables in mysql. |
| 02:48.20 | Peregrine | Maquis: Fix it if you like, you won't hurt my feelbads. |
| 02:49.41 | *** topic/#utah by Maquis -> The source for OSS focused discussion in Utah. See sllug.org, plug.org, uug.byu.edu, uvlug.org, fslc.usu.edu, etc. | utwaa.org for Utah windows Admins Anonymous... Vote for Maquis for UUG President |
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| 03:05.16 | goozbach | ~lart Maquis |
| 03:05.21 | goozbach | cool |
| 03:05.35 | Maquis | ~lart goozbach |
| 03:09.14 | Peregrine | No you didn't; It's still on his head :). |
| 03:09.25 | Maquis | he hid it for a little bit |
| 03:09.33 | Peregrine | Now is your opportunity while his hands are in the candy jar. |
| 03:09.43 | Maquis | good idea... |
| 03:09.49 | Maquis | but, he's bigger... |
| 03:09.50 | Maquis | :) |
| 03:09.59 | Maquis | and i have to stay on good terms with my hitman |
| 03:10.11 | Peregrine | Always a good idea. |
| 03:10.48 | amcnabb | Go K&R! |
| 03:10.59 | Peregrine | Uh, oh. The villagers are looking for a Which. |
| 03:11.16 | goozbach | which witch |
| 03:11.17 | goozbach | ? |
| 03:11.17 | Maquis | :) |
| 03:13.23 | goozbach | my bad |
| 03:13.38 | Maquis | ~timeout goozbach |
| 03:13.40 | ibot | ACTION grabs goozbach by the ear, drags him to the timeout chair, and forces him to sit there for 20 minutes |
| 03:14.16 | goozbach | for a gaim bell? |
| 03:14.27 | Maquis | :) |
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| 03:24.05 | Maquis | ~rot13 hello |
| 03:24.05 | ibot | uryyb |
| 03:34.00 | goozbach | useradd -u 0 -r -o -d /root toor |
| 03:45.14 | Lone_Wanderer | wow |
| 03:45.18 | Lone_Wanderer | did any of you get that message? |
| 03:45.27 | Maquis | yeah |
| 03:45.34 | Maquis | i was just wondering about what that'll do |
| 03:45.42 | Maquis | i mean... 3 days????? |
| 03:45.43 | Lone_Wanderer | ohhhhh |
| 03:45.51 | Lone_Wanderer | it's April 2st |
| 03:45.54 | Lone_Wanderer | 1st |
| 03:46.07 | Lone_Wanderer | *wonders* |
| 03:46.24 | Maquis | possibly? |
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| 03:49.22 | goozbach | I've got three other server I can go to |
| 03:49.33 | goozbach | one of which I manage |
| 03:49.47 | goozbach | that's a mean april-fools prank |
| 03:49.58 | Maquis | no kidding! |
| 03:50.02 | Lone_Wanderer | lol |
| 03:50.07 | Lone_Wanderer | did you guys get Sinbad? |
| 03:50.49 | Maquis | especially given the number of server problems they've been having recently... |
| 03:52.40 | Lone_Wanderer | a few years ago I left a letter for my parents telling them I'd eloped with the girl I was dating |
| 03:53.17 | Peregrine | Last year, goozbach got engaged and it took him 6 months to find a way to end the joke |
| 03:53.26 | Lone_Wanderer | that poor girl |
| 03:53.35 | Lone_Wanderer | was that his first time? |
| 03:53.44 | Peregrine | I don't know. |
| 03:54.08 | Peregrine | Maybe he'll look at his screen and answer that himself. |
| 03:54.23 | Lone_Wanderer | he meaning me, not goozbach |
| 03:55.01 | Lone_Wanderer | hey, at least you followed through |
| 03:59.50 | Maquis | goo just started booting into windoze... |
| 03:59.52 | Maquis | burn him |
| 04:00.06 | Peregrine | Build a bridge out of `im! |
| 04:00.09 | Maquis | :) |
| 04:01.08 | Peregrine | He finally read it. |
| 04:07.08 | goozbach | it was her fault |
| 04:07.16 | Maquis | what? |
| 04:07.20 | goozbach | she didn't want to not be engaged |
| 04:07.24 | Maquis | oh... |
| 04:07.31 | Maquis | *her* |
| 04:14.24 | goozbach | ~kill me |
| 04:14.27 | ibot | ACTION shoots a ionized pseudograviton gun at goozbach |
| 04:14.35 | goozbach | ~kill me |
| 04:14.38 | ibot | ACTION shoots a pseudomeson gun at goozbach |
| 04:15.03 | goozbach | ~kill me |
| 04:15.07 | ibot | ACTION shoots a inverse pseudoproton gun at goozbach |
| 04:15.11 | Lone_Wanderer | :p |
| 04:15.13 | goozbach | ~kill me |
| 04:15.18 | ibot | ACTION shoots a fluxneutron gun at goozbach |
| 04:15.21 | Peregrine | Stop hitting your . |
| 04:15.43 | goozbach | ~shoot me |
| 04:15.45 | ibot | ACTION shoots goozbach in the ear with a cork gun! |
| 04:17.30 | Newsome | ~april fool |
| 04:17.52 | Maquis | ~lart Newsome |
| 04:17.58 | Newsome | woohoo! |
| 04:18.34 | Newsome | a bit crooked, but it won't come off again! |
| 04:19.48 | goozbach | ~lart sjansen for being long winded |
| 04:20.04 | Maquis | goozbach: agreed... |
| 04:20.25 | Maquis | ~hug screen |
| 04:20.28 | ibot | ACTION hugs screen |
| 04:21.13 | goozbach | high from my laptop |
| 04:22.36 | goozbach | high from my phone |
| 04:22.47 | Newsome | where was sjansen long-winded? |
| 04:22.54 | Maquis | Newsome: uug meeting |
| 04:22.57 | Newsome | ah, okay |
| 04:22.58 | Maquis | it's still going |
| 04:22.58 | Peregrine | should have used that power stapler on his lips, you think? |
| 04:23.37 | Maquis | wait... we were listening? |
| 04:24.26 | Peregrine | Some of us where, even though we were typing at the time. |
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| 04:28.58 | goozbach | wow! |
| 04:30.01 | goozbach | i just realized i'm a dork |
| 04:30.03 | goozbach | !!! |
| 04:30.19 | goozbach | :) |
| 04:30.45 | tene | yay! |
| 04:30.49 | goozbach | no putty for Maquis |
| 04:30.51 | Peregrine | Maquis is being naughty. |
| 04:31.39 | tene | so, question... |
| 04:31.54 | goozbach | ok |
| 04:32.03 | Peregrine | answer |
| 04:32.23 | tene | I'm considering building a usb device that would be a glowing thing with red, blue, and green LEDs, the brightness of each being individually controllable by the usb host. |
| 04:32.53 | tene | I can't come up with any interesting or useful uses besides server monitoring. |
| 04:33.04 | tene | and sitting there changing colors and being pretty |
| 04:33.07 | Peregrine | Linux Journal had a couple of articles about 16 months or so ago where they did that, and then another article where you write a device driver (for the 2.6 kernel) to run it. |
| 04:33.22 | tene | oh? |
| 04:33.31 | tensai | I remember that one |
| 04:33.35 | tene | really? |
| 04:33.38 | tene | hmm |
| 04:33.53 | Peregrine | I though about doing that with some cold-cathod bulbs inside of my "Gaming box" and then I would have a command that would change the color to that of my "team" when I switch teams. |
| 04:33.57 | tene | I thought that I searched pretty well and couldn't find any similar projects documented online. |
| 04:34.21 | tensai | it's probably in their subscriber only section |
| 04:34.26 | tene | ahh |
| 04:34.30 | tene | that would explain it. |
| 04:35.14 | tene | I'm mainly doing it for fun anyway, so it'll be interesting to figure out myself. |
| 04:35.27 | tene | but that still doesn't answer my question about ideas for interesting uses. |
| 04:35.40 | bigdog_ut | tene...network traffic |
| 04:35.49 | bigdog_ut | or cpu usage |
| 04:35.59 | bigdog_ut | or music |
| 04:36.02 | tene | yeah, system monitoring |
| 04:36.11 | tene | music possible |
| 04:36.18 | bigdog_ut | hook it to snort for alerts |
| 04:36.41 | bigdog_ut | music would be cool...colors for certain music types |
| 04:37.42 | bigdog_ut | the cool thing we did on a router was get it going like night rider on the port lights |
| 04:37.50 | Peregrine | I'm going to build a bit multi-segment led clock for a model rocket launch pad :) |
| 04:38.23 | bigdog_ut | a usb binary clock would be cool |
| 04:38.39 | Peregrine | I think I'll use a microcontroller for that. |
| 04:38.41 | tene | http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/7353 |
| 04:39.08 | tene | that's reverse-engineering the protocol for a commercial multi-color usb lamp. |
| 04:39.23 | tensai | tene: that's the one |
| 04:39.47 | tene | doesn't discuss building such a device, just writing a driver for one. |
| 04:39.51 | tene | still interesting, though. |
| 04:40.29 | Peregrine | I'll look at home and see which LJ it was. |
| 04:40.57 | Peregrine | That reminds me, I need to call them and get some issues that they missed. |
| 04:40.59 | Peregrine | :( |
| 04:42.22 | tensai | I let my subscription run out. it's not quite as interesting as it used to be, and I didn't have the $$$. |
| 04:42.39 | tensai | I still miss it though :') |
| 04:44.49 | tene | also, it looks like that lamp only does on/off for the LEDs |
| 04:44.54 | tene | it doesn't do variable-intensity |
| 04:45.07 | tene | so I couldn't send arbitrary RGB values to it. |
| 04:45.11 | Peregrine | I have a two year subscription and I'm only 8 or 10 months in. |
| 04:46.09 | tensai | I got a year for free because they messed up the renewal card. It had 1 year for $45 and 2 years for $25. |
| 04:47.46 | tensai | http://davyd.ucc.asn.au/images/af/af-shot2.png |
| 05:03.53 | bigdog_ut | ~seen dataw0lf |
| 05:03.55 | ibot | dataw0lf is currently on #uphpu (1d 1h 4m 17s) #debian (1d 1h 4m 17s) #utah (1d 1h 4m 17s). Has said a total of 9 messages. Is idling for 5h 23m 32s |
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| 05:17.13 | scott | has anyone ever thought of setting up their system so when it's idle for a few minutes the screen turns into a giant clock? |
| 05:24.33 | tensai | scott: my screen saver is a clock. would that suffice? |
| 05:29.14 | scott | yeah, what's the name? |
| 05:29.34 | tensai | not sure. it's one of the default kde ones |
| 05:29.50 | scott | oh, kde :( |
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| 06:00.02 | scott | yeah |
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| 06:21.28 | goozbach | sjansen still goin on? |
| 06:24.52 | scott | yeah, he's spent the last 20 minutes on yes |
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| 06:34.48 | bonez39 | how do I 'install a font' on debian or linux in general? |
| 06:35.05 | bonez39 | I have a .TTF font I just found....want to make it available throughout on my system.. |
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| 06:44.30 | SpecialK | ~lart Maquis |
| 06:44.30 | Maquis | ~lart goozbach |
| 06:44.34 | Maquis | ~lart SpecialK |
| 06:44.53 | Maquis | goozbach: peregrine's taking you your bucket |
| 06:46.04 | SpecialK | I'll take the bucket. Oh wait, it's probably empty |
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| 06:46.18 | SpecialK | since a nice portion ended up in my bag anyway |
| 06:58.57 | Maquis | yes, the bucket was empty |
| 07:15.05 | scott | yeah, rhythmbox is tons better than muine |
| 07:15.20 | scott | 1) progress bar 2) star ratings |
| 07:18.10 | Maquis | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:19.32 | bonez39 | smoe fun jokes.....how about speeling jokes... |
| 07:19.48 | bonez39 | what's 4 mexicans in quicksand? |
| 07:20.17 | bonez39 | Maquis: know the answer? |
| 07:22.02 | bonez39 | Maquis: did you sneek off to grab a jolt, or a Dew from the fridge? Get me one too |
| 07:22.51 | bonez39 | dang..this is no fun....jokes or no jokes |
| 07:24.14 | SpecialK | bonez39: quatro cinco |
| 07:26.59 | bonez39 | SpecialK: yeah, correcto..... |
| 07:27.03 | bonez39 | si.... |
| 07:30.50 | bonez39 | must just be you and I here now, SpecialK |
| 07:36.19 | Maquis | hi |
| 07:36.21 | Maquis | i'm back |
| 07:36.35 | Maquis | oh..... i missed it :( |
| 07:51.13 | bonez39 | welcome back |
| 08:11.18 | Maquis | :) |
| 08:18.27 | Maquis | check out the google ride finder!!! |
| 08:19.33 | Newsome | http://labs.google.com/ridefinder |
| 08:20.24 | Maquis | :) |
| 08:21.33 | Maquis | even more than something like sysadmin appreciation day |
| 08:22.13 | Newsome | http://www.google.com/googlegulp/ |
| 08:24.27 | Maquis | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:25.35 | Newsome | "Well, none of the lab rats who've been pounding this stuff for the past eight months have keeled over yet, which we find fairly reassuring." |
| 08:26.05 | Newsome | "...include the possibility, however remote, of hideous genetic mutation resulting from your consumption of this product. We're pretty sure you won't die, though." |
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| 14:35.34 | Lone_Wanderer | Here I go proposing to every girl I know via email |
| 14:35.37 | Lone_Wanderer | *click* |
| 14:37.13 | dataw0lf | you must not get out much. |
| 14:51.49 | brailsmt | Lone_Wanderer: good luck with that... |
| 14:52.04 | Lone_Wanderer | cripes you guys are slow |
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| 14:52.07 | brailsmt | if any are in russia or china, you may be inluck... |
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| 14:52.20 | brailsmt | ...for a small fee |
| 14:52.31 | Lone_Wanderer | http://www.google.com/googlegulp/ |
| 14:52.49 | Lone_Wanderer | Have a look at that, see if it clears things up ;) |
| 14:55.34 | brailsmt | Lone_Wanderer: oh, i get it... |
| 14:56.23 | Lone_Wanderer | :) |
| 14:56.23 | brailsmt | even if it weren't april 1, i would have still understood it to be a joke... |
| 14:56.28 | brailsmt | i hate april 1 for news... |
| 14:56.38 | Lone_Wanderer | judging by your response, I was under the impression that you took me seriously. but dry humor is known not to transmit well via text. |
| 14:56.40 | brailsmt | i hope groklaw doesn't report bogus stories... |
| 14:57.10 | brailsmt | i won't believe anything i read on /. today... |
| 14:58.08 | brailsmt | i wonder how many companies float product ideas on april 1 under the guise of april fools... |
| 14:58.32 | brailsmt | if it bombs, then they can blame april 1, if they get good feedback, they could go ahead... |
| 14:59.27 | brailsmt | ie, google could actually probably make money with something like google gulp, expecially if they put loads of caffeine in it and marketed it on thinkgeek |
| 14:59.47 | brailsmt | think snapple, but google branded |
| 14:59.49 | brailsmt | :) |
| 14:59.56 | Lone_Wanderer | I'd buy it |
| 15:01.23 | Lone_Wanderer | Heck, if they don't, some beverage company should pay 50 cents a bottle for the Google name and do it themselves. |
| 15:02.01 | sjansen | sigh. nothing even vaguely funny on /. |
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| 15:06.50 | brailsmt | sjansen: you thought there would be? |
| 15:07.04 | brailsmt | the guy selling his baby for 30k story is LAME |
| 15:11.05 | scott | how do I find out if hardware accel is working? I'm using the ati driver because I couldn't get fglrx to work (the binary driver I think), and using xcompmgr which runs a little laggy and I'm wondering if hardware accel is really working. anyone done this? |
| 15:16.07 | levi | Mmmm. Hot chocolate, donut, and bagel. Breakfast of champions. |
| 15:18.25 | misterpull | I truly dislike April Fools day |
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| 15:34.50 | levi | misterpull: Party pooper. |
| 15:37.50 | sjansen | ~lart vontrapp |
| 15:38.52 | misterpull | i am. i just don't like when people joke about serious stuff. |
| 15:39.02 | misterpull | i'm a sucker... that makes it worse. |
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| 15:46.46 | vontrapp | anyone have any gulp caps? |
| 15:47.10 | sjansen | even google is disappointing |
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| 15:52.12 | sjansen | http://www.garyrobinson.net/2005/04/the_top_100_apr.html |
| 15:52.14 | sjansen | ~lart emcnabb |
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| 16:12.59 | levi | Aaaagh. |
| 16:13.14 | levi | Apparently my actiontec rebooted last night and shifted around the ip addresses that my machines got. |
| 16:13.35 | levi | So now the ip that used to be my Mac is now my Zaurus. |
| 16:14.07 | vontrapp | maybe your actiontec is just pulling an april fools on you |
| 16:14.21 | vontrapp | or your mac, pretending to be a zaurus |
| 16:17.01 | vontrapp | sjansen: homestarrunner is pretty good |
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| 16:18.48 | levi | Hrm, I can't find my Mac at all on the network. Maybe the switch screwed up. |
| 16:18.52 | levi | I have such crappy hardware. |
| 16:21.36 | levi | Ahh, there it is. |
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| 16:23.08 | levi | Hrm. Somehow, I need to get two devices to swap ip addresses, and I can only do it via ssh. |
| 16:23.29 | neybar | that should be fun... :) |
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| 16:28.25 | levi | I think I'll put an alias on the machine that needs the new address via a commandline containing a sleep, and then shut down the stupid zaurus. |
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| 16:29.29 | sjansen_ | I hear that I've been missed so much hans is impersonating me. |
| 16:29.55 | Maquis | ~hug sjansen_ |
| 16:29.57 | ibot | ACTION hugs sjansen_ |
| 16:30.29 | hans | I admit it. Red Hat rocks. |
| 16:30.44 | hans | I've been wrong for all these years. |
| 16:30.46 | RyanE | hehe |
| 16:31.16 | sjansen | funny you should say that. I was just telling everyone how much I love Debian. Ubuntu has really converted me. |
| 16:31.23 | jsmith | Yeah... 5.2 was the bomb! |
| 16:31.34 | tensai | [hans] (~sjansen@hq-nat2.gurulabs.com) : Stuart Jansen |
| 16:31.48 | RyanE | 4.2 was better. |
| 16:33.11 | Lone_Wanderer | no way |
| 16:33.23 | Lone_Wanderer | is the article on Gmail being upped to 2 gigs for real? |
| 16:33.36 | hans | sjansen: Eventually you'll learn as I have that Debian is a dead end. |
| 16:34.35 | sjansen | hans: that's when I'll switch to Windows. All this linux stuff is just getting too tedious |
| 16:34.46 | sjansen | ~lart hans |
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| 16:35.44 | hans | buahah |
| 16:36.10 | hans | I knew impersonating sjansen wouldn't be quite as effective as impersonating emcnabb was last year |
| 16:36.19 | Maquis | hans: good point |
| 16:36.25 | Maquis | last year was good |
| 16:36.40 | jakea | hans: you seen startrek.com today? |
| 16:36.44 | levi | Yay, my ip address swap worked. |
| 16:36.57 | hans | Maquis: that's because you didn't see me put a post it note on everyone else's mouse in the office just now |
| 16:37.00 | hans | (they're in a meeting) |
| 16:37.13 | Maquis | hans: nice :) |
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| 16:37.26 | Maquis | ~lart Newsome |
| 16:37.57 | hans | jakea: heh |
| 16:39.42 | hans | jakea: the picard maneouver vid is funny |
| 16:39.51 | jakea | he he |
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| 16:49.52 | jsmith | NASA finds water on Mars: http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap050401.html |
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| 16:50.48 | sjansen_ | ~whoami |
| 16:50.49 | ibot | you are sjansen_, or ~sjansen@hq-nat2.gurulabs.com on #utah and it's Fri Apr 1 16:50:49 2005. Don't believe me? Ask fozz! |
| 16:52.17 | spr | ~whoami |
| 16:52.18 | ibot | you are spr, or ~spr@ramona.cs.byu.edu on #utah and it's Fri Apr 1 16:52:18 2005. Don't believe me? Ask misterpull! |
| 16:52.38 | Newsome | ~whoaminot |
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| 16:55.28 | hans | too bad more people don't call me, it might be worth setting up a prank answering machine message |
| 16:56.35 | Bradipo | You mean for April 1st jokes? |
| 16:56.52 | tensai | did anyone else notice the striking similarities between Get Fuzzy and Foxtrot today? |
| 17:01.24 | hans | sjansen: yup, as soon as the SNMP book arrives |
| 17:02.23 | jakea | grrrrr |
| 17:03.04 | jakea | does someone know Andrew Jorgensen's current email address? |
| 17:04.01 | hans | jakea: how about aim? |
| 17:04.20 | hans | screen name Andrew Jorgensen |
| 17:04.28 | jakea | is he on now? |
| 17:04.34 | hans | yup |
| 17:05.41 | Lone_Wanderer | jsmith: is the water on mars thing real? |
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| 17:05.52 | jsmith | Lone_Wanderer: Follow the link! |
| 17:06.05 | hans | Lone_Wanderer: absolutely true |
| 17:06.09 | Lone_Wanderer | ThinkGeek has a few good things. |
| 17:06.26 | *** topic/#utah by spr -> The source for OSS focused discussion in Utah. See sllug.org, plug.org, uug.byu.edu, uvlug.org, fslc.usu.edu, etc. | utwaa.org for Utah windows Admins Anonymous... Vote on the uug home page! |
| 17:06.39 | Lone_Wanderer | fantastic. maybe they'll find life on mars next! |
| 17:08.17 | hans | easy enough |
| 17:10.20 | jakea | maybe Andrew is running a cloaking device on his IM |
| 17:14.21 | brailsmt | bah it isn't Firday the 13th... |
| 17:18.01 | sjansen | http://www.google.com/googlegulp/ |
| 17:20.15 | hans | goozbach: I voted for you. |
| 17:20.24 | hans | I hope that's ok, since I don't even subscribe to the list |
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| 17:29.58 | Maquis | ~whoami |
| 17:29.59 | ibot | you are maquis, or ~Maquis@byu074659wks.rn.byu.edu on #utah and it's Fri Apr 1 17:29:59 2005. Don't believe me? Ask Lone_Wanderer! |
| 17:30.28 | Lone_Wanderer | Yep, looks like you're you alright. |
| 17:30.46 | Maquis | spr: i dunno... you don't seem to be doing too well.... |
| 17:32.17 | Lone_Wanderer | who's spr? |
| 17:32.27 | Lone_Wanderer | I don't see him saying anything except whoami |
| 17:32.33 | Maquis | sco++ |
| 17:32.39 | Maquis | he changed the topic |
| 17:33.43 | Lone_Wanderer | ohhh is he running for something-or-other again? |
| 17:33.59 | Maquis | yeah |
| 17:34.08 | sjansen | Vote goozbach! |
| 17:34.16 | Maquis | vote for tuxgirl! |
| 17:34.20 | sjansen | Vote goozbach! |
| 17:34.22 | Lone_Wanderer | are you tuxgirl? |
| 17:34.27 | sjansen | Vote goozbach! |
| 17:34.28 | Maquis | Lone_Wanderer: yes |
| 17:34.30 | sjansen | Vote goozbach! |
| 17:34.36 | Lone_Wanderer | Maquis: can you do calculus? |
| 17:34.51 | Maquis | Lone_Wanderer: depends on the level |
| 17:34.55 | Maquis | i've taken calculus |
| 17:34.59 | jakea | hmmmmmm |
| 17:35.04 | Lone_Wanderer | Any level is good enough for me. |
| 17:35.16 | jakea | so all I need to do is just go to 20 different computers and vote again and again |
| 17:35.16 | Maquis | then, yes |
| 17:35.28 | Maquis | jakea: :) |
| 17:35.55 | Maquis | Lone_Wanderer: you're welcome to vote in this poll |
| 17:36.00 | jakea | oh wait, I don't even have to do that |
| 17:36.08 | Lone_Wanderer | oh? what poll is it? |
| 17:36.16 | Maquis | go to uug.byu.edu |
| 17:36.21 | Lone_Wanderer | should I have my friend write a python script to auto-vote? |
| 17:44.34 | Lone_Wanderer | So this is just an informal poll, not the actual determining deal? |
| 17:44.45 | Maquis | right |
| 17:44.49 | Lone_Wanderer | mmkay |
| 17:45.18 | levi | Being UUG club president is overrated. |
| 17:45.36 | sjansen | But crushing your opponents isn't. |
| 17:45.56 | levi | They've probably spent my huge budget surplus by now, anyway. ;) |
| 17:47.46 | levi | Of course, a fun challenge would be to see if you could actually perform worse as UUG president than Ammon or I did. |
| 17:48.35 | levi | Anyway, it's time for me to go eat lunch with my niece. |
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| 18:00.42 | Lone_Wanderer | Aside from barbecues and games of bzflag, what does the uug do? |
| 18:01.01 | Lone_Wanderer | And are heathen non-BYU students allowed in? |
| 18:01.15 | sjansen | install fests and meetings |
| 18:01.16 | phinux | You mean the world consists of more than barbecues and BZFlag?! |
| 18:01.19 | Maquis | ~lart spr |
| 18:01.33 | hans | phinux: of course, there's scorched3d too |
| 18:01.41 | phinux | Silly me. |
| 18:01.45 | sjansen | phinux: Yes! Don't forget that happy place we call sleep. (It's where I'm a viking.) |
| 18:02.35 | phinux | Sleep is like drugs. I wish I didn't need it, but it's so addictive. I just can't quit! |
| 18:02.50 | Lone_Wanderer | unlike drugs, sleep keeps you alive. |
| 18:03.05 | Lone_Wanderer | (unless you mean drugs like penicillin) |
| 18:03.08 | sjansen | Lone_Wanderer: You've obviously never played Splinter Cell. |
| 18:03.14 | phinux | I was going to say, depends on the drugs. |
| 18:03.46 | Lone_Wanderer | You're right, I've never played Splinter Cell. |
| 18:03.53 | Lone_Wanderer | *not* for lack of desire, I assure you. |
| 18:03.55 | sjansen | Imagine the chaos of twenty humans on one map! |
| 18:04.12 | sjansen | ~strangelove hans |
| 18:04.14 | ibot | ACTION destroys half the channel just to get rid of hans |
| 18:04.20 | brailsmt | err... |
| 18:04.23 | brailsmt | bzflag... |
| 18:04.30 | hans | with bots named debian, redhat, suse, sco, etc. |
| 18:04.36 | brailsmt | if only it didn't require hardware accel |
| 18:05.08 | jsmith | Maquis: What about tuxracer? |
| 18:05.20 | Maquis | laptop doesn't handle that either |
| 18:05.25 | Maquis | desktop handles all of them... |
| 18:05.36 | Maquis | but it's not any fun to play from home |
| 18:06.26 | Lone_Wanderer | What kind of stuff goes on at the meetings? |
| 18:06.43 | brailsmt | we can't tell |
| 18:06.53 | brailsmt | you have to join first... |
| 18:06.54 | Lone_Wanderer | ohhhh, you have to be a member to find out? |
| 18:06.55 | phinux | sjansen gave a great presentation last night on bash. |
| 18:07.08 | Maquis | yeah... |
| 18:07.12 | brailsmt | where he bashed, the new plebes |
| 18:07.23 | Innocent_UUG_Mem | Hey guys, how's it going? |
| 18:07.27 | Maquis | phinux: were you there? |
| 18:07.33 | phinux | course. |
| 18:07.36 | brailsmt | he joined in the bashing |
| 18:07.37 | Innocent_UUG_Mem | Anyone know what the next meeting's on? |
| 18:07.46 | Maquis | Innocent_UUG_Mem: fragfest |
| 18:07.51 | brailsmt | Innocent_UUG_Mem: crack/ |
| 18:07.56 | Innocent_UUG_Mem | Bwa ha ha ha ha! |
| 18:07.58 | phinux | You know Maquis, you could justcheck my profile. |
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| 18:08.52 | Lone_Wanderer | *facepalms* I must be seriously bored to be playing games on irc like this. |
| 18:08.53 | phinux | The next meeting will probably be dominated by the Presidential hopefuls duking it out. |
| 18:09.17 | brailsmt | :D |
| 18:09.36 | Lone_Wanderer | seeing as how BYU is generally administered from above, what does that leave for the hopefuls to duke it out about? |
| 18:10.07 | phinux | Who cares. It should be a good show regardless. |
| 18:10.19 | dataw0lf | let's just put them in a gladiatorial arena. |
| 18:10.20 | dataw0lf | naked. |
| 18:10.40 | Lone_Wanderer | no swords or tridents? |
| 18:11.40 | brailsmt | http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f1/Buddhabrot-deep.png |
| 18:12.34 | Lone_Wanderer | holy not optimized for the web, brailsmt |
| 18:13.00 | brailsmt | holy, its a lossless high-res picture |
| 18:13.38 | brailsmt | and its 500l |
| 18:13.41 | brailsmt | err... |
| 18:13.43 | brailsmt | 500k |
| 18:15.19 | Lone_Wanderer | must be a slow connection here then |
| 18:15.51 | brailsmt | http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/8d/Nebulabrot.png |
| 18:15.59 | brailsmt | try that on for size then :) |
| 18:16.13 | Maquis | ~lart amcnabb |
| 18:16.33 | Lone_Wanderer | lart lart lart, all day long |
| 18:16.36 | Maquis | amcnabb: any good pranks down in the tmcb? |
| 18:16.43 | Maquis | ~lart Lone_Wanderer |
| 18:17.07 | Lone_Wanderer | That one actually hits pretty close to home, today. Am I annoying anyone with my inane chatter? |
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| 18:19.51 | sjansen | Lone_Wanderer: This is IRC, there is no other type. |
| 18:20.14 | Lone_Wanderer | why thank you. you are quite possibly the most socially graceful nerd I know. |
| 18:20.23 | brailsmt | wow... |
| 18:20.38 | brailsmt | social grace and nerd in one sentence... |
| 18:20.42 | brailsmt | ... |
| 18:20.47 | Lone_Wanderer | unless you're hans posing as sjansen |
| 18:20.48 | brailsmt | ...and applied to sjansen |
| 18:20.52 | brailsmt | wow... |
| 18:25.19 | amcnabb | maquis: nope |
| 18:29.27 | jakea | I'm in the best department ever |
| 18:29.29 | jakea | http://www.physics.byu.edu/Default.aspx |
| 18:31.15 | spr | jakea, the "more" links are borked |
| 18:43.12 | synic | any debian experts in ? |
| 18:44.44 | jakea | paging the real hans |
| 18:49.12 | synic | hans: maybe you know :P |
| 18:49.27 | hans | maybe I know what? |
| 18:49.33 | synic | hans: if you download a vanilla kernel from kernel.org, debian does something weird with the the default configuration |
| 18:50.05 | synic | how can I prevent that. |
| 18:50.07 | synic | ? |
| 18:50.12 | hans | 2.6 series? |
| 18:50.17 | synic | yeah |
| 18:50.21 | hans | it's not debian |
| 18:50.37 | synic | hrmm, I get a different default on two different distros |
| 18:50.39 | hans | it's the 2.6 kernel config targets autofilling the defaults |
| 18:50.56 | hans | before make ?config do this: |
| 18:50.59 | hans | > .config |
| 18:51.06 | hans | then you'll get the "linux" defaults |
| 18:51.08 | synic | wait, what? |
| 18:51.15 | hans | and not whatever the current booted kernel is using |
| 18:51.30 | synic | just type > .config ? |
| 18:51.31 | hans | create an empty .config |
| 18:51.34 | hans | yup |
| 18:51.42 | synic | oh - an empty config chooses nothing |
| 18:52.06 | hans | a nonexistant config tells the config targets to default to what the running kernel uses. |
| 18:52.27 | hans | can be handy, but it's tedious to say no to all the things you don't need when it does that on a stock kernel. |
| 18:53.17 | hans | brailsmt: that works too |
| 18:53.38 | brailsmt | not as easy, though and only works for kernels that support it |
| 18:54.05 | Maquis | amcnabb: :( |
| 18:54.12 | synic | well - I just can't get a custom kernel to boot correctly on debian |
| 18:54.22 | synic | make menuconfig seems to choose *everything* as a module |
| 18:54.24 | brailsmt | i have also made it a habit to copy my .config files to /boot alongside the kernel they belong to... |
| 18:54.26 | synic | I've never had this problem before |
| 18:54.43 | brailsmt | synic: use 'y' instaed of soace bar |
| 18:54.55 | brailsmt | to select |
| 18:55.04 | synic | ? |
| 18:55.12 | synic | no, I mean by default everything is a module |
| 18:55.14 | brailsmt | in make menuconfig |
| 18:55.23 | synic | IE, if there's an option, it's preselected as a module |
| 18:55.25 | tensai | synic: under "Kernel Hacking" de-select the "Make my config a nightmare" option |
| 18:55.29 | brailsmt | synic: depends on you distro... I don't see that in menuconfig on gentoo |
| 18:55.39 | synic | brailsmt: that's what I'm saying |
| 18:55.46 | synic | debian does something weird with it |
| 18:55.52 | brailsmt | ahhh... |
| 18:55.52 | synic | I've never seen this on any other distro |
| 18:56.30 | brailsmt | blame debian...oh wait...there isn't anyone left to complain to with debian... |
| 18:56.41 | hans | synic: hold on here |
| 18:56.42 | brailsmt | :) |
| 18:56.51 | hans | I just told you how to get rid of that behavior. did you do it? |
| 18:57.38 | synic | yes - trying it now |
| 18:58.50 | synic | hans: that basically deselects everything, IE - not even IDE is enabled in there by default when you do that |
| 18:59.03 | hans | synic: well what do you want? |
| 18:59.32 | synic | I want the default configuration I got when downloading a vanilla kernel when I was on archlinux or gentoo |
| 18:59.35 | synic | on the same machine |
| 19:00.33 | hans | > .config will give you the vanilla configuration |
| 19:00.33 | hans | if you want something else, you need to bring it with you. |
| 19:00.53 | hans | try make defconfig |
| 19:00.57 | synic | I'm still confused. |
| 19:01.24 | synic | if I download a vanilla kernel on archlinux, extract it, and type make menuconfig, why does it look different when I do the same thing on the same machine only using debian? |
| 19:01.41 | hans | because you're running a different kernel there. |
| 19:01.52 | synic | hrmm. |
| 19:01.54 | synic | ok |
| 19:02.10 | hans | it's dynamically configured according to the running kernel if there's no .config |
| 19:02.28 | hans | I suppose there may be some kernels that aren't configured properly to allow that and it'd fall back to the default config |
| 19:02.37 | hans | which I'm guessing is what make defconfig would give you. |
| 19:05.21 | hans | i found out about make defconfig from make help just now. it looks useful. |
| 19:05.21 | brailsmt | synic: install genkernel, and be done with it... |
| 19:05.21 | brailsmt | oh wait... |
| 19:05.21 | synic | brailsmt: :P that'd mean I have to use *shudder* gentoo |
| 19:05.21 | brailsmt | *shudder*?!? |
| 19:05.21 | synic | that's right :P |
| 19:05.22 | brailsmt | hah |
| 19:05.22 | brailsmt | i use debian at work... |
| 19:05.22 | synic | hans: I've been given false information all these years then |
| 19:05.25 | brailsmt | and gentoo at home... |
| 19:05.30 | hans | this is a recent development |
| 19:05.33 | hans | 2.6 only |
| 19:05.36 | synic | hans: someone told me the default options are shipped with the kernel |
| 19:05.48 | brailsmt | if i had decent machine, ie MHz >= 400, then I would have gentoo at work too |
| 19:05.58 | hans | 2.4 kernels would use the default configuration and not glean anything from the running kernel |
| 19:06.19 | hans | 2.6 behaves differently. I like it, but it confused me a few times before I realized what was happening |
| 19:06.19 | synic | brailsmt: imo, no machine is decent enough to run gentoo. |
| 19:06.33 | brailsmt | synic: then you are sadly misguided... |
| 19:06.38 | hans | synic: or is that delinquent enough to deserve running it? |
| 19:06.47 | synic | hehe |
| 19:06.55 | synic | brailsmt: note that I did use it for two years. |
| 19:07.11 | brailsmt | noted, but not understood.. |
| 19:07.51 | brailsmt | no pkg system i have seen can touch portage, rpm, apt, pkgadd, smit/installp, etc... |
| 19:08.13 | brailsmt | hah, try parsing that right |
| 19:08.45 | synic | I was fine with it until I bought a used 500mhz thinkpad on ebay |
| 19:08.49 | brailsmt | s/portage,/portage, and I have used / |
| 19:09.00 | synic | at that point I realized "there is absolutely no reason for compiling everything" |
| 19:09.02 | brailsmt | synic: ever used distcc? |
| 19:09.32 | synic | brailsmt: with that realization, distcc wouldn't matter |
| 19:09.35 | brailsmt | anyway, use what you like... |
| 19:09.50 | synic | yeah :) |
| 19:09.53 | brailsmt | and i'll do the same... |
| 19:10.07 | brailsmt | and we'll throw barbs back and forth every so often... |
| 19:10.08 | brailsmt | :) |
| 19:11.00 | brailsmt | i have 3 1GHz machines at home all set up with distcc, which makes quick work of compiles, which is very, very nice |
| 19:11.12 | brailsmt | 3 1GHz+ |
| 19:11.15 | brailsmt | i meant to say |
| 19:11.25 | synic | but why wait even a minute to compile when you don't have to? |
| 19:11.31 | brailsmt | and I only paid for one of those computers :) |
| 19:11.38 | brailsmt | synic: USE |
| 19:11.48 | brailsmt | no such thing exists elsewhere |
| 19:12.00 | synic | but the defaults are good enough for 90% of packages. The rest can be compiled on any distro |
| 19:12.04 | brailsmt | among other reasons |
| 19:12.54 | brailsmt | and for developement you just can't beat gentoo, imo... all the libs you need are already there on the system |
| 19:13.38 | synic | ? what libs? |
| 19:13.39 | brailsmt | but i wouldn't put gentoo into a production environment |
| 19:13.52 | brailsmt | nor debian for that matter |
| 19:14.09 | brailsmt | i'd stick with SuSE or RedHat with their support |
| 19:14.30 | brailsmt | err... large production environment |
| 19:14.53 | synic | I don't mind redhat ... but I just feel if you install redhat 9 (or any other version) on a server, you're stuck with redhat 9 packages. |
| 19:14.55 | brailsmt | synic: you don't have to muck around with <pkg>-devel packages |
| 19:15.10 | synic | I *like* the separation of -devel packages |
| 19:15.21 | brailsmt | i can't stand it |
| 19:15.24 | brailsmt | :) |
| 19:15.32 | synic | IE, we had redhat 7.2 on our old production server. |
| 19:15.46 | synic | perl was version 5.6 or something |
| 19:16.07 | synic | there is no binary package for a newer version of perl for 7.2, and no safe way to upgrade the version of redhat |
| 19:16.17 | synic | so... now you're in compile hell |
| 19:16.38 | brailsmt | been there |
| 19:16.40 | sjansen | http://potrace.sourceforge.net/ !!!! |
| 19:18.22 | brailsmt | pretty cool, sjansen |
| 19:21.42 | goozbach | woot! climbing again |
| 19:35.19 | Lone_Wanderer | anyone know a good cms? |
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| 19:47.25 | goozbach | ~lart coppers |
| 19:48.43 | brailsmt | Lone_Wanderer: cms? |
| 19:48.52 | Lone_Wanderer | content management system |
| 20:09.18 | tene_ | ... since when does "Sample C Code" mean "Visual Studio MFC C++"? |
| 20:09.48 | brailsmt | tene_: i suggest you get with the times... |
| 20:10.08 | brailsmt | its been that way for a while now... just accept it |
| 20:10.11 | tene_ | so... somehow "C" and "C++" are the same now? |
| 20:10.36 | brailsmt | uhhmmm... |
| 20:11.08 | brailsmt | not necesarily, but Visual Studio MFC C++, certainly is... |
| 20:14.05 | tene_ | I can't tell if you'r ebeing sarcastic or not. |
| 20:14.13 | tene_ | being, even. |
| 20:14.18 | tene_ | Curse these mortal fingers. |
| 20:14.57 | tene_ | thanks. |
| 20:15.43 | mrpull | argghh... |
| 20:15.55 | mrpull | i have 2 servers that NFS mount an export on an old netapp |
| 20:16.29 | mrpull | there were a group of directories that seemed "out of sync" |
| 20:16.42 | mrpull | 1 server saw the files, the other didn't |
| 20:17.10 | mrpull | but if I went in to the second (that didn't see the files) and just touched a file... |
| 20:17.14 | mrpull | then I could see them |
| 20:17.27 | mrpull | i've never had NFS problems with either box before |
| 20:17.40 | mrpull | I think these darn servers are playing an april fools joke on me |
| 20:36.31 | levi | Ahh, great day for a bike ride! :) |
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| 21:22.35 | tensai | ~lart raid arrays for not automatically rebuilding |
| 21:22.49 | tensai | ibot: no, no. don't burn out my array! I take it back |
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| 21:24.47 | Maquis | GAAAAA!!!!! |
| 21:24.52 | Maquis | ~lart vim |
| 21:24.54 | Maquis | ~lart gvim |
| 21:24.59 | Maquis | grrrrrrr |
| 21:25.26 | Peregrine | vim rocks! :) |
| 21:25.43 | Peregrine | That's pretty good spelling for a baseball bat. |
| 21:27.40 | brailsmt | lol |
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| 21:30.03 | hagna | what's the equivalent of dw in emacs? |
| 21:30.10 | hagna | from vi |
| 21:32.31 | brailsmt | what does dw do in emacs? |
| 21:32.38 | hagna | delete word |
| 21:32.47 | hagna | in vi |
| 21:32.51 | hagna | in vi dw deletes word |
| 21:33.04 | brailsmt | i thought you were asking the equivalent in vi for emacs 'dw' |
| 21:33.09 | hagna | is there no delete word command in the emacs OS |
| 21:33.16 | brailsmt | hagna: there is |
| 21:33.21 | hagna | yay |
| 21:33.26 | brailsmt | just don |
| 21:33.29 | brailsmt | t ask me.. |
| 21:33.34 | levi | meta-del |
| 21:33.46 | levi | Well, meta-del is backward, meta-d is forward. |
| 21:34.50 | levi | control-k kills a line, meta-k kills a sentence |
| 21:35.05 | hagna | thanks levi |
| 21:35.29 | levi | I only know because I have an emacs quick-ref card in front of me. :) |
| 21:37.31 | brailsmt | levi is a closet emacs user |
| 21:37.34 | brailsmt | :) |
| 21:42.43 | levi | I'm not a closet emacs user. I'm just an emacs user-in-training. |
| 21:44.53 | Lone_Wanderer | does anyone here have a server that I can use to get my IP address off of? |
| 21:45.08 | Lone_Wanderer | like, I hit your server, you watch logs and tell me what the IP is? |
| 21:45.30 | Lone_Wanderer | oh wait, I think I've got a script that does it |
| 21:45.42 | Bradipo | How about: http://www.whatismyip.com |
| 21:45.48 | Bradipo | Or http://www.whatismyipaddress.com/ |
| 21:45.56 | Lone_Wanderer | ohhhh even better |
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| 22:01.48 | levi | Heh, iPod phones: http://www.mobilemusicblog.com/2005/04/world_exclusive.html |
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| 22:04.38 | brailsmt | beware... scp is a dangerous command... |
| 22:04.51 | brailsmt | if you have a finger malfunction, you just may type... |
| 22:04.54 | brailsmt | sco |
| 22:04.56 | brailsmt | !!!!!!!!! |
| 22:05.16 | brailsmt | <hitchcock music> |
| 22:05.59 | tene_ | hehe |
| 22:07.46 | tyce | in case any of you are looking: http://jobsearch.monster.com/getjob.asp?JobID=28484003 |
| 22:07.51 | levi | scott: Only for humor value. |
| 22:11.17 | scott | tene_, are you running e17? |
| 22:11.22 | tene_ | yep |
| 22:11.38 | scott | what features is it lacking that you miss? |
| 22:11.57 | tene_ | keybindings |
| 22:12.23 | scott | ugh, yeah that would suck |
| 22:13.24 | scott | do you have a script that downloads everything you need and compiles it? |
| 22:14.11 | tene_ | I don't, but there are several floating around. |
| 22:14.19 | tene_ | I think there's one at http://rasterman.com/files/ |
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| 22:16.30 | scott | do you know what rasterman was running to get the moving background that showed a redish landscape? |
| 22:16.55 | tene_ | he wasn't running anything special |
| 22:17.07 | tene_ | e17 will let you use and edje file as a background |
| 22:17.15 | tene_ | that's just an animated one |
| 22:18.26 | scott | is it easy to make custom ones? |
| 22:18.45 | tene | quite |
| 22:19.27 | tene | if all you want is a static image, there's a tool that will generate a .edj for you |
| 22:29.33 | tene | there isn't a graphic builder tool for constructing edje interfaces yet, though |
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| 22:54.39 | sjansen | ugh |
| 22:55.15 | sjansen | my boss just said we'll have a project that's been "ongoing" for a couple years will be done by mid-summer |
| 22:56.19 | tensai | ~lart sjansen for having too little faith |
| 22:59.38 | goozbach | ~lart sjansen for having too little faith in himself |
| 22:59.52 | goozbach | being as he is the one responsable for most the project |
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| 23:05.00 | scott | the most amusing part of the meeting last night must have been the bragging about who had used linux the longest. |
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| 23:13.20 | tensai | clearly Andy Tanenbaum has used Linux the longest |
| 23:14.24 | tensai | since Linux is merely an unauthorized knock-off of Minix |
| 23:18.02 | scott | clearly Adam was the first Muslim, since Islam is merely an unauthorized knock-off of Christianity and Judaism. |
| 23:25.40 | levi | scott: What was the longest length among the arguers? |
| 23:26.43 | mrpull | anybody else have their ubuntu login screen change? |
| 23:27.24 | jsmith | Mine didn't... oh wait, I don't run Ubuntu... :-) |
| 23:27.32 | mrpull | that is kinda slick |
| 23:27.43 | mrpull | I don't like april fools... but that is a good one |
| 23:28.18 | vontrapp | screenshot? |
| 23:31.52 | levi | vontrapp: small one here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=23270&page=1&pp=10 |
| 23:31.57 | mrpull | http://planet.ubuntulinux.org/ |
| 23:32.26 | mrpull | if you don't use ubuntu (and haven't seen some of the other "art") it may be as funny |
| 23:33.18 | scott | mine didn't change, but I'm not using the default one |
| 23:34.29 | mrpull | i assume they'll change it back tomorrow ? |
| 23:34.34 | Maquis | wait... |
| 23:34.44 | Maquis | your distro changed your login screen for the day? |
| 23:34.57 | levi | Maquis: As part of an update. |
| 23:34.58 | Maquis | why does that frighten me? |
| 23:35.00 | Maquis | oh |
| 23:35.18 | levi | You do a dist-upgrade, and the new package has the updated image. |
| 23:39.53 | levi | Hmm, planet gnome and planet kde switched for the day. |
| 23:40.21 | Maquis | http://gentooexperimental.org/nt/ |
| 23:46.59 | vontrapp | Maquis: that's just wierd |
| 23:47.17 | Maquis | they have geNToo installation instructions too!!1 |
| 23:52.03 | vontrapp | i'd like to try that sometime, when they have more things working (like x) |
| 23:52.29 | vontrapp | it would be excellent to have fully functional wireless |
