| 00:00.32 | hans | so now that you've found him, will you do with him? |
| 00:00.51 | Maquis | ~lart hans |
| 00:09.43 | bucky | hey BYU is getting a new planetarium |
| 00:10.41 | bucky | i wonder if they have Kstars |
| 00:11.04 | bucky | wow The new planetarium features a Zeiss zkp3 star projector that renders the night sky accurately enough to allow the audience to use binoculars in the theatre |
| 00:11.35 | bucky | http://planetarium.byu.edu/ |
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| 00:18.29 | tensai | jsmith: ping |
| 00:18.56 | Maquis | goozbach: what are you scared of? |
| 00:19.08 | tensai | rabbits and other furry things |
| 00:20.01 | vontrapp | ~~/quit |
| 00:20.10 | vontrapp | errrr |
| 00:20.18 | Maquis | ~mock vontrapp |
| 00:20.20 | ibot | ACTION pulls vontrapp's pants down and shows the world vontrapp's pink spotted underwear |
| 00:21.49 | goozbach | I have a unhealthy aversion to light jazz |
| 00:22.04 | bucky | ~seen levi |
| 00:22.08 | ibot | levi is currently on #utah |
| 00:22.22 | bucky | ~seen levi-laptop |
| 00:22.23 | ibot | levi-laptop is currently on #utah |
| 00:22.30 | bucky | ~seen LeviHome |
| 00:22.31 | ibot | levihome is currently on #utah |
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| 00:22.57 | bucky | ~seen sjansen |
| 00:22.59 | ibot | sjansen <~sjansen@hq-nat2.gurulabs.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #utah, 2d 23h 59m 56s ago, saying: 'Only finished the introductory stuff at the embassy. Was at a LUG leadership meeting until ~10:30PM.'. |
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| 00:30.47 | sjk36 | ~lart Maquis |
| 00:35.20 | levi | bucky: I'm here, but I'm about to go home. |
| 00:35.29 | bucky | good for you |
| 00:35.36 | levi | The only me that's missing is levi-treo ;) |
| 00:35.41 | bucky | lol |
| 00:36.25 | levi | Anyway, catch you all later. |
| 00:36.40 | bucky | have a good evening |
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| 01:11.46 | bucky | bucky, hi me |
| 01:12.36 | bucky | bucky, hi me again |
| 01:19.38 | stuporglue | Are there problems with the network in the CS labs? It seems really slow, and GAIM (MSN) can't connect. |
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| 02:16.51 | amcnabb | The more, the merrier. |
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| 02:58.51 | scott | my theory on ebay: if I bid on enough different items maybe one of them will get through without all the last second bidders doubling the price |
| 03:01.58 | stuporglue | What'd you miss out on this time? |
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| 03:21.35 | scott | trying to win a laptop |
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| 04:57.55 | LeviHome | Good evening. |
| 04:58.33 | Tene | it sure is |
| 04:59.58 | LeviHome | What'cha up to? |
| 05:00.23 | Tene | not much |
| 05:02.07 | stuporglue | How do you close an irssi window when you're done talking with someone? |
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| 05:14.10 | chad|david | stuporglue: /window close |
| 05:14.15 | chad|david | that should do the trick |
| 05:14.53 | stuporglue | thanks |
| 05:17.19 | LeviHome | Finally got around to upgrading to 1.5mbit DSL from 256kbit. |
| 05:17.36 | tensai | I love my 1.5mbit |
| 05:17.37 | stuporglue | I love highspeed... |
| 05:17.52 | LeviHome | I wonder if it will really take over a week to switch over. |
| 05:18.29 | stuporglue | I'll bet it's just changing a setting, but it gets stuck in a que, and that the week is just the max. |
| 05:18.33 | LeviHome | I'm going to ditch my web host and host my meager web stuff from home. |
| 05:18.37 | tensai | takes your dsl provider to change the speed on the dslam and your isp to change the speed on the router. well coordinated it could take 2 minutes. |
| 05:19.12 | LeviHome | Hmm... do I need to tell my isp, then? |
| 05:19.31 | LeviHome | I don't think xmission charges differently for different speeds. |
| 05:19.31 | tensai | yes. otherwise it will be a long walk off a short pier. |
| 05:20.36 | tensai | if qwest says it'll take a week I guarantee it'll take a week |
| 05:25.18 | LeviHome | Any idea how I'll know when it's done? |
| 05:26.30 | tensai | what sort of modem do you have? |
| 05:27.21 | LeviHome | An Actiontec POS. |
| 05:27.38 | tensai | sorry to hear that, but at least I can tell you how to find out |
| 05:27.42 | Newsome | You'll be able to download your spam 6 times as fast |
| 05:28.09 | stuporglue | If you can't notice a difference, then would the upgrade have been worth it? |
| 05:28.11 | tensai | go to the web interface, click on Status, then WAN Status. It shows your speed. |
| 05:28.37 | tensai | I think you have to re-up the atm link which usually means a power cycle |
| 05:29.33 | LeviHome | stuporglue: I'm assuming it won't work to its full potential until I take some action, whether it be to reboot or tell my isp or whatever. |
| 05:29.39 | tensai | but it may take off when the far end forces a disconnect |
| 05:30.47 | tensai | the way atm works both ends have to agree on a speed otherwise the whole thing goes to crap |
| 05:30.49 | LeviHome | Ahh, yup, the speed is there. |
| 05:31.38 | tensai | last week Qwest changed the ATM speed on the wrong ds3 link and it fell all apart. |
| 05:31.51 | tensai | Actually, they did it twice within an hour. How's that for riding the light? |
| 05:32.04 | LeviHome | Well, we'll see what happens in the next week or so. |
| 05:32.12 | LeviHome | It's time for me to get to bed now, though. |
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| 05:50.24 | findlay | hello |
| 05:51.52 | findlay | it feels so good to be running a vanilla kernel, in fact the latest vanilla kernel |
| 05:52.26 | findlay | it's like whole grain for your computer |
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| 06:29.47 | xbmodder_ | hey? |
| 06:29.50 | xbmodder_ | emcnabb: hey |
| 06:29.59 | xbmodder_ | ~call joshc |
| 06:30.02 | ibot | ACTION looks around and then screams out joshc as loudly as possible |
| 06:33.58 | Maquis | ibot? |
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| 16:25.35 | goozbach | who was it that was on ipv6 the other day |
| 16:26.00 | fungus | I am on ipv6. |
| 16:26.02 | goozbach | and what ISP was he using? |
| 16:26.31 | goozbach | yeah fungus who is your ipv4-ipv6 gateway? |
| 16:26.38 | fungus | ISP doesn't matter. http://tunnelbroker.net |
| 16:27.16 | bonez41 | fungus: what sort of advantages do you find on ipv6? |
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| 16:29.03 | fungus | advantages? hmm... ease of client configuration (rtadvd), and status. that is about it. |
| 16:30.57 | fungus | reminds me of the day when I could boast about connecting to Lower Lights via telnet instead of dialup. :) |
| 16:33.46 | levi | Hah, I went to a Lower Lights meetup once. |
| 16:34.05 | bonez41 | ah, lower lights..I used to chat on there...... |
| 16:34.20 | bonez41 | What wwas that guys name....the guy who ran it? |
| 16:34.30 | levi | I have no idea. |
| 16:34.31 | bonez41 | big guy..I met him once.......... |
| 16:34.39 | fungus | Lightkeeper is all I knew him by |
| 16:34.40 | bonez41 | lower lights BBS....... |
| 16:34.51 | levi | I lived in Dugway at the time, so I didn't get to many meetups. |
| 16:35.06 | levi | I went by 'hedgehog', I think. |
| 16:36.11 | bonez41 | all has to start somewhere....;) |
| 16:36.37 | fungus | I was fungus then, fungus now. |
| 16:37.00 | bonez41 | fungus, do you have some affection for mushrooms, etc? |
| 16:37.11 | bonez41 | or just the name 'fungus'? |
| 16:37.14 | hans | athlete's foot |
| 16:37.32 | bonez41 | hehehe....forrest fungus....I call them..;) |
| 16:38.01 | bonez41 | nothing like a stick o butter and a big pan of sliced mushrooms...sauteed... |
| 16:38.08 | fungus | Nope, just a silly name my friend made up, and it stuck. |
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| 16:38.26 | levi | Mmmm... sauteed mushrooms. |
| 16:42.54 | Tene | Mmm... mushrooms... |
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| 16:43.03 | Tene | with potatoes and onions. |
| 16:47.56 | hans | I hat it when I have to write a program to do something vague. The customer isn't quite sure what he wants. The worst part is, I'm the customer |
| 16:49.53 | levi | What style of hat? |
| 16:50.58 | JoshH | i always thought he was a big shroomer |
| 16:51.09 | hans | er, hate ;-) |
| 16:51.18 | hans | although my favorite hat is a nice fedora |
| 16:51.22 | levi | Oh, that's not quite as interesting. |
| 16:51.44 | levi | Hating is so everyday. Hatting your problems would be a unique, fun solution! ;) |
| 16:51.58 | hans | :) |
| 16:52.08 | hans | it's moments like this when I notice the yak hair |
| 16:52.21 | levi | yak hair? |
| 16:52.49 | hans | ~jargon shaving yaks |
| 16:55.44 | hans | worthless bot |
| 16:56.13 | hans | http://www.catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/Y/yak-shaving.html |
| 16:58.53 | levi | Well, sometimes solving the intermediate problems is more fun than the ultimate one. |
| 17:02.32 | hans | hmm, that's a more generous definition than the one I was thinking. |
| 17:03.05 | hans | the one I was thinking is yak shaving is any tangent you go off while avoiding the boring thing you're supposed to be doing |
| 17:05.03 | levi | I found one with some elaborate fake etymology regarding shaving of real yaks to get them across a bridge. |
| 17:05.22 | hans | heh |
| 17:05.31 | tensai | jsmith: how do I get rid of echo? echocancel doesn't seem to help. |
| 17:05.33 | hans | narrow bridge? |
| 17:06.36 | levi | Yeah. |
| 17:07.26 | levi | hans: http://www.alexandrasamuel.com/blog/?m=200501 |
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| 17:34.14 | goozbach | fungus: thanks |
| 17:35.05 | fungus | np. I want more people using ipv6. |
| 17:35.27 | goozbach | wtf is up with the FSLC list? |
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| 17:47.08 | me | hmmm should I buy an account on blogger? |
| 17:47.20 | me | then it would be slashdotable |
| 17:52.45 | Tene | Hah, you can't! No feet! |
| 17:53.03 | Tene | I deserve it for that extra comma, though. |
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| 18:05.58 | SpecialK | ~lart Maquis |
| 18:06.17 | SpecialK | mmmm. .. . Marshmallows. . .. |
| 18:29.40 | me | hans: are you a lemmings music fan? |
| 18:38.23 | hans | lemmings music... as in the soundtrack to the video game? |
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| 19:21.16 | Maquis | ~lart SpecialK |
| 19:36.42 | jsmith | ~lart Qwest |
| 19:36.55 | jsmith | Makes me wanna strangle somebody... |
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| 19:44.19 | fungus | ~lart Gov. Jon Huntsman Jr. |
| 19:46.26 | fungus | eek, the stupid zealots are at it again. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/03/22/utah_filtering_law/ |
| 20:00.45 | fozz | he signed it? |
| 20:01.10 | jsmith | fozz: Yes, he signed it. |
| 20:01.21 | me | hans: yeah the music in the video game |
| 20:01.38 | fozz | sheesh. |
| 20:02.14 | jsmith | Your tax dollars at work! |
| 20:02.22 | fozz | I guess we can be thankful it will collapse in a legal review. |
| 20:02.56 | jsmith | Yeah, but that'll take more time and a whole lotta money. Good thing the govt. never runs out of either. |
| 20:03.05 | fozz | but yeah... lots of money wasted. |
| 20:04.03 | hans | me: I don't much remember it |
| 20:04.05 | hans | is it cool? |
| 20:04.15 | me | hans: yeah darn cool imho |
| 20:04.22 | fungus | Yeah, now we have to start planning a way to implement this crap. |
| 20:05.19 | JoshH | when has a useless morality law ever not been passed in this state? this one wont last. |
| 20:06.43 | fungus | JoshH, yeah, but we have to deal with it until it gets ruled unconstitutional. |
| 20:07.42 | JoshH | yup |
| 20:08.02 | JoshH | jon hunstman is smarter than most utah republicans, im surprised he signed this. probably just pandering i guess. |
| 20:08.17 | me | who is going to work with the attorney general to get the list of "bad sites for minors" |
| 20:08.37 | JoshH | the sltrib article about it said that "state attorneys would mine the internet for harmful sites" |
| 20:08.49 | me | mine == google |
| 20:09.23 | me | doesn't cerberian do this? |
| 20:09.36 | me | hmm they are a utah company |
| 20:09.37 | me | hmmm |
| 20:10.03 | hans | ~spell received |
| 20:15.52 | levi | Mmmm, Big City Soup. |
| 20:16.54 | me | urgh how do I find all files that were created in the last 2 hours with find in linux |
| 20:33.35 | hans | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:33.39 | hans | what does that mean? |
| 20:34.41 | fungus | $ host correo.iberia.es |
| 20:34.41 | fungus | correo.iberia.es has address 195.53.213.13 |
| 20:35.46 | fungus | It is just a warning that the IP .253 is lying, and saying it is correo.iberia.es. |
| 20:36.19 | jsmith | me: "find / -type f -mtime -2" might do the trick |
| 20:38.41 | fungus | me: "find / -type f -mmin 120" |
| 20:41.49 | fozz | -mmin -120 |
| 20:44.20 | mrpull | any rrdtool gurus in the house? |
| 20:46.17 | jsmith | mrpull: I'm no guru, but I used to use it a lot |
| 20:46.31 | mrpull | i've got a gig interface that is nuking my graph it exceeds 100Mbps |
| 20:46.39 | mrpull | when it exceeds... |
| 20:47.16 | mrpull | i used rrdtool tune to adjust the max (i think) |
| 20:48.46 | jsmith | mrpull: What happens when it exceeds 100Mbps? Shows up as 10 to 20 Mbps? |
| 20:49.08 | mrpull | gets recorded as zero |
| 20:50.40 | jsmith | mrpull: I'll bet you're using 32-bit counters instead of 64-bit counters on your SNMP get |
| 20:51.11 | mrpull | i have verified that i'm collecting from 64 bit counters |
| 20:51.14 | hans | ouch1 |
| 20:51.27 | mrpull | but that is a good guess :) |
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| 20:51.54 | mrpull | what is <last_ds> in the xml from rrdtool dump ? |
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| 21:00.08 | tensai | http://fmungus.blogspot.com/2005/03/shredder-of-hand.html |
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| 21:31.03 | hans | pppoe[10216]: Bad TCP checksum f9c5 |
| 21:31.12 | hans | lots of those sort of message. should I be concerned? |
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| 21:32.18 | xbmodder_ | hey |
| 21:32.37 | xbmodder_ | sup all |
| 21:36.53 | jsmith | hans: Doesn't sound good. |
| 21:38.08 | hans | there doesn't seem to be any lasting problems with my connection, although I wouldn't doubt at that moment things were hairy |
| 21:40.22 | stuporglue | How important is /etc/environment? |
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| 21:49.21 | Tene | gah, this is really annoying me |
| 21:50.05 | Tene | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:50.05 | Tene | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:50.26 | Tene | but it freaks out on trying to install, which is why it's in an inconsistent state. |
| 21:50.55 | tensai | dpkg --force-all? |
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| 21:58.43 | tensai | jsmith: I might have gotten it by turning rxgain /way/ down. tip & ring didn't help. aggressive mode royally freaks it out. |
| 22:06.39 | liney | Anyone here use screen? |
| 22:07.08 | fungus | looks like you don't. :) |
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| 22:07.32 | Tene | I do. |
| 22:07.47 | Tene | tensai: nope, it just freaks out and errors out. |
| 22:08.04 | stuporglue | Tene: You use screen? How do I give screen a command? |
| 22:08.12 | Tene | hmm? give it a command? |
| 22:08.19 | Tene | I don't understand the question. |
| 22:08.21 | tensai | ctrl-a |
| 22:08.36 | tensai | try ctrl-a + ? |
| 22:09.04 | Tene | tensai: join #flood |
| 22:10.49 | tensai | remove the prerm and postrm scripts. you *could* edit them and see what's on line 15 but I usually just delete them. |
| 22:10.56 | tensai | well, mv them but same effect |
| 22:11.39 | Tene | from where? |
| 22:11.59 | Tene | hmm... maybe the lised path... |
| 22:13.19 | Tene | the function in both cases is update_alternatives |
| 22:13.50 | *** join/#utah sjk36 (sjk36@allspice.ee.byu.edu) |
| 22:14.00 | tensai | try update-alternatives |
| 22:20.34 | stuporglue | win 3 |
| 22:27.17 | stuporglue | I'm trying to change screen's encoding. This page |
| 22:27.30 | stuporglue | http://www.ugcs.caltech.edu/info/screen/screen_11.html says the command is "enc", but I can't type the command |
| 22:27.56 | tensai | probably needs to go in .screenrc |
| 22:28.03 | stuporglue | I want it systemwide |
| 22:28.18 | tensai | /etc/screenrc then |
| 22:28.49 | stuporglue | Brillian! Hadn't found that file yet :/ |
| 22:29.11 | tensai | I just guessed :) |
| 22:31.49 | stuporglue | I'll be back if it worked... |
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| 22:49.23 | stuporglue | grr. Maybe the charset isn't my problem |
| 22:50.19 | Tene | sjansen is the problem. |
| 22:50.34 | levi | What's the solution? |
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| 22:53.39 | Tene | bonez39 is the solution, of course. |
| 22:54.33 | bonez39 | Tene: I am? |
| 22:55.09 | Tene | Yes. |
| 22:55.15 | bonez39 | how so? |
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| 22:59.48 | hans | I thought it was mheath |
| 22:59.58 | mheath | Haha, hey. |
| 23:01.41 | levi | hans: You thought mheath was the problem or the solution? |
| 23:01.51 | levi | mheath: You probably shouldn't cut it off. |
| 23:02.13 | levi | Opposable thumbs are what separate us from the lower animals, after all. ;) |
| 23:02.15 | hans | levi: well that's the question isn't it |
| 23:02.28 | hans | what better way to oppose your thumb than with a weapon? |
| 23:03.33 | levi | Well, the thumbs are supposed to do the opposing to the fingers, not sharp objects capable of severing them. |
| 23:04.54 | levi | Gah, I keep getting phone calls. |
| 23:05.20 | hans | hate it when that happens. |
| 23:05.21 | levi | First the apartment complex I haven't lived at in months calls me asking if I'm planning on moving out. |
| 23:05.50 | levi | Then my wife called me. That doesn't bother me, because she doesn't do it often. |
| 23:06.02 | bucky | levi, sub lease the apt |
| 23:06.39 | levi | bucky: I was sort of doing that, and got royally screwed. |
| 23:06.51 | levi | I will not be doing anything like that again. |
| 23:06.57 | bucky | heh |
| 23:07.21 | hans | ooh, I don't even know if I want to hear it. |
| 23:07.42 | bucky | i remember when the tongans first came to utah |
| 23:08.01 | levi | Roommate took off owing me over $1k, because I was a sucker and listened to his sob stories for too long before I told him to get out. |
| 23:08.11 | bucky | one family tore out the basement floor and dug a bit to roast a pig |
| 23:08.26 | bucky | the neighbors called the fire dept |
| 23:08.30 | levi | Aiee. |
| 23:09.00 | levi | Is it common to have homes in Tonga with pig-roasting pits inside? |
| 23:09.18 | bucky | i guess it was winter time and it seemed like a good idea |
| 23:09.45 | hans | sorry, bucky's story is better |
| 23:09.50 | Bradipo | bucky: That's cool. |
| 23:09.58 | levi | Yeah, definitely a better story. |
| 23:10.07 | bucky | they were all like.. what's wrong? |
| 23:10.15 | bucky | want some barbeque? |
| 23:10.23 | levi | But it doesn't make mine any less expensive. |
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| 23:24.09 | xbmodder_lappy | hello. |
| 23:24.14 | xbmodder_lappy | Maquis, you there? |
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| 23:56.35 | joshc | ibot, scream |
| 23:56.36 | ibot | aaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh!!! |
| 23:56.58 | joshc | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:57.00 | ibot | AAAAAAAAAAAARG! |
| 23:57.13 | levi | Heya, joshc. |
| 23:57.18 | joshc | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:57.24 | joshc | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:57.33 | levi | joshc: You just got logged telling ibot to scream. |
| 23:57.50 | joshc | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:58.37 | levi | Tsk. |
| 23:58.50 | levi | What'cha got to scream about? |
| 23:58.56 | joshc | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:59.01 | joshc | <PROTECTED> |