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| 01:21.43 | Maquis | http://www.ndtoday.com/games/files/penguinswing.swf |
| 01:21.47 | Maquis | far too entertaining |
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| 02:02.04 | Hhhhh | hello |
| 02:02.14 | Maquis | hhhhhello |
| 02:02.23 | Hhhhh | hey guys, i've a question |
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| 02:02.32 | Maquis | mmmhmmm |
| 02:02.36 | Hhhhh | i just got a new 64-bit machine |
| 02:02.51 | Maquis | and |
| 02:02.57 | Hhhhh | and i want to install a 64-bot distro in it |
| 02:03.07 | Hhhhh | i've heard of problems with 64-bid distros |
| 02:03.20 | Hhhhh | like, wine and mplayer having problems or something like that |
| 02:03.50 | Maquis | i haven't heard many good things about 64-bit distros at the current point |
| 02:03.50 | Hhhhh | hmm |
| 02:04.03 | Hhhhh | i guess i'll just stay away from them then |
| 02:04.14 | Hhhhh | ok, so question number 2 |
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| 02:04.31 | Hhhhh | what distro is good for gaming? |
| 02:04.47 | Maquis | what games? |
| 02:04.57 | Hhhhh | i'm played in FC2 and Suse Pro 9.1 |
| 02:05.18 | Hhhhh | and games would usually work fine, FC2 a little less problems |
| 02:05.29 | Hhhhh | but i haven't tried fc3 or suse 9.2 |
| 02:05.34 | Hhhhh | any thoughts? |
| 02:05.38 | Maquis | to tell you the truth, i don't know much about the "real" gaming other than what i saw on the mailing list |
| 02:06.23 | Maquis | i usually play games at addictinggames.com... or maybe a bit of frozen bubble or nethack |
| 02:06.41 | Hhhhh | k, i usually play UT2k4, and that kind of games |
| 02:06.48 | Maquis | yeah... |
| 02:06.54 | Maquis | i wouldn't know anything about getting those working |
| 02:07.16 | Maquis | i'm assuming that you're the one who asked these two questions on one of the mailing lists... |
| 02:07.20 | Hhhhh | yup |
| 02:07.38 | Maquis | in which case, i'm afraid i have nothing to add to the discussion, since i have no experience with either... :) |
| 02:07.49 | Hhhhh | but thanks anyways |
| 02:08.12 | Hhhhh | hmm, i've one more wuestion for you |
| 02:08.29 | Maquis | k |
| 02:08.36 | Hhhhh | i have't used linux for a few months (since my internship at Novell ended) |
| 02:08.41 | Maquis | mmhmmm |
| 02:08.45 | Hhhhh | have you tried Suse 9.2 or FC3? |
| 02:08.55 | Maquis | i've installed FC3 for people.... |
| 02:09.04 | Maquis | i've never used either of them much myself... |
| 02:09.32 | Maquis | i've heard good things about FC3 |
| 02:09.43 | Maquis | and mixed things about Suse (in general) |
| 02:10.02 | Hhhhh | yea, SuSE has some very nice features but sometimes you might be out of luck |
| 02:10.07 | Maquis | yeah |
| 02:10.20 | Maquis | a couple people really dislike it, others think it's pretty good |
| 02:10.28 | Hhhhh | sometimes I loved it to death, sometimes i wanted to go to the other building and kick butt |
| 02:10.41 | Hhhhh | the SuSE people |
| 02:10.45 | Maquis | :) |
| 02:10.48 | Hhhhh | but anyways, i think i'll give FC3 a try |
| 02:10.58 | Maquis | see, i like being able to pick and choose exactly what i want |
| 02:11.17 | Maquis | so, i don't really go with those types of distros.../ |
| 02:11.37 | Maquis | although, i think that they're definitely necessary... and it's all an issue of what you want... |
| 02:12.30 | Hhhhh | yea, I have opted for going with those extensively publicitized distros because although I love configuring every detail and tinkering with stuff, i don't have a lot fo time |
| 02:12.35 | Maquis | so, why the long hiatus from linux? |
| 02:12.40 | Maquis | ~spell hiatus |
| 02:12.42 | Hhhhh | and i have never had major screw ups with those |
| 02:13.06 | Hhhhh | well, i just felt i needed to balance my experience with some Windows programming |
| 02:13.24 | Maquis | meh... |
| 02:13.24 | Hhhhh | after 3 years of Linux-only programming |
| 02:13.47 | Hhhhh | i'm more interested in cross-platform development |
| 02:13.59 | Hhhhh | to tell you the truth, i like Windows quite a lot |
| 02:14.05 | Maquis | i didn't see you at the mono meeting on thursday |
| 02:14.11 | Hhhhh | i guess i am simply not religious about that kind of stuff |
| 02:14.18 | tensai | Maquis: 291.3 |
| 02:14.26 | Maquis | tensai: huh? |
| 02:14.35 | tensai | my high score on penguin swing |
| 02:14.39 | Maquis | oh... |
| 02:14.47 | tensai | yours? |
| 02:14.55 | Maquis | i got something over 300 once... but wasn't at all consistent |
| 02:15.41 | Maquis | Hhhhh: you would've enjoyed the mono meeting, i think... they were talking about developing winforms with mono, and creating cross-platform apps |
| 02:15.47 | stuporglue | Anyone setup Apache w/ mysql on Debin or Ubuntu? |
| 02:16.01 | Maquis | stuporglue: nope... just rh and gentoo... |
| 02:16.32 | Maquis | ~lart stuporglue for fun |
| 02:16.41 | Maquis | hmmm... that was boring |
| 02:16.42 | tensai | stuporglue: yes |
| 02:16.44 | Maquis | ~lart tensai |
| 02:16.46 | stuporglue | ~lart Maquis twice |
| 02:16.51 | tensai | ~lart Maquis |
| 02:16.55 | Hhhhh | yea, I wish I had been able to attend |
| 02:16.57 | Maquis | ~lart stuporglue |
| 02:17.04 | tensai | ~lart Maquis |
| 02:17.07 | Maquis | Hhhhh: it was a cool meeting |
| 02:17.10 | Maquis | ~lart tensai |
| 02:17.14 | tensai | ~lart Maquis |
| 02:17.15 | Maquis | ouch! |
| 02:17.18 | stuporglue | ~lart Maquis the crazy |
| 02:17.22 | Hhhhh | lol, a MUD |
| 02:17.23 | Maquis | ~lart tensai and stuporglue |
| 02:17.34 | Maquis | Hhhhh: you obviously aren't here enough |
| 02:17.46 | Hhhhh | that's true, I have not been around for a while |
| 02:18.33 | Hhhhh | hey, you guys know of anybody doing SLI with Linux? |
| 02:18.37 | Maquis | SLI? |
| 02:18.43 | Hhhhh | nVidia SLI |
| 02:18.49 | Hhhhh | 2 videocards |
| 02:19.23 | Hhhhh | I'm sure the videocard drivers work fine |
| 02:19.25 | Hhhhh | lol |
| 02:19.48 | Maquis | hmmm... |
| 02:19.51 | Maquis | looks interesting |
| 02:19.51 | Hhhhh | never heard of SLI? using two PCI-Express videocards instead of one? |
| 02:20.15 | Hhhhh | only nVidia cards can do it...I love nVidia |
| 02:20.35 | Maquis | dunno how it works with linux... wikipedia doesn't seem to say... |
| 02:21.18 | Hhhhh | well, i'll give it a try then >;) |
| 02:21.58 | Maquis | :) |
| 02:22.02 | Maquis | check google... |
| 02:22.26 | Hhhhh | I tried google groups, but i could find any post regarding both SLI and linux |
| 02:23.37 | Hhhhh | Maquis, how's 345 coming? |
| 02:24.23 | Maquis | good... |
| 02:24.28 | Maquis | hmmm... |
| 02:24.45 | Maquis | so, someone asked about SLI support at linuxquestions.org, but nobody's replied so far.. |
| 02:27.46 | Hhhhh | yea, i've found a few questions but no answer yet... |
| 02:28.01 | Hhhhh | well, hopefully i get it to work and answer them all!! |
| 02:28.09 | Maquis | Hhhhh: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/8147 |
| 02:28.25 | Maquis | (haven't really read it, but it looks promising) |
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| 02:32.14 | stuporglue | drew!: You hang out here much? |
| 02:38.37 | Maquis | Hhhhh: i'm not seeing much else... not too many good search terms for this... |
| 02:38.53 | Maquis | stuporglue: burned... :) |
| 02:42.50 | stuporglue | ~lart Maquis |
| 02:45.06 | Maquis | ~lart stuporglue |
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| 03:10.27 | SpecialK | ~lart Maquis |
| 03:12.25 | Maquis | ~lart SpecialK |
| 03:12.41 | Maquis | 6 whole seconds??? |
| 03:12.44 | Maquis | ~lart SpecialK |
| 03:12.51 | Maquis | ~lart ibot |
| 03:13.01 | Maquis | stupid bot |
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| 03:34.24 | vontrapp | can one do a regular style for loop in ruby? |
| 03:36.56 | vontrapp | or a clever rubyish way to do likewise: for (i = 1; i < num; i=i*2) |
| 03:39.31 | vontrapp | i could break it out into a wile loop, or calculate beforehand the number of bits required for num, but that would be less elegant, which would be unfortunate because elegance is why i love ruby so much |
| 03:41.49 | brailsmt | vontrapp: yes |
| 03:41.56 | brailsmt | your example should work, iirc |
| 03:44.03 | brailsmt | nm... |
| 03:44.16 | vontrapp | yeah, something needs to be done to the syntax |
| 03:44.58 | brailsmt | otherwise i would stick around an help |
| 03:45.16 | vontrapp | you mean stick around and elp |
| 03:53.42 | Maquis | hi vontrapp |
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| 04:22.57 | vontrapp | anyone up for a game of scorched3d? |
| 04:25.24 | Maquis | atlantik |
| 04:25.57 | Maquis | ? |
| 04:26.03 | Maquis | while scorched3d emerges |
| 04:27.46 | mheath | agh. I'm trying desperately to find info on a high-school competition sponsored by ITT Tech, but can't find any.. |
| 04:30.34 | mheath | Lego Mindstorms design and programming competition.... |
| 04:30.40 | mheath | I'm battling with NQC, and hating it. |
| 04:31.13 | mheath | How can you call a programming language without pointers C? |
| 04:31.29 | Maquis | by sticking "not quite" in front |
| 04:31.50 | mheath | NC would be better :D |
| 04:32.44 | mheath | I'm still trying to figure out why they stripped down C |
| 04:33.07 | Maquis | probably because they had to make it to a point where they could work with the hardware? |
| 04:33.39 | Maquis | i did a bit of mindstorm programming in high school, but that was with VB's mindstorm language... which i'm betting was a lot worse than nqc |
| 04:34.03 | mheath | Nothing in NQC is hardware specific |
| 04:34.07 | mheath | theres nothing customized for the hardware |
| 04:34.36 | mheath | I mean, due to limitations I could see doing inline functions, or using the mindstorm's limited support for callable functions.. |
| 04:34.54 | mheath | But those should be modifications do your compiler, not heavy modifications to your language |
| 04:35.26 | Maquis | why don't you go write a new compiler so that you can use real C on mindstorms? |
| 04:35.35 | mheath | Heh, waste of time. |
| 04:36.01 | Maquis | well, maybe the developers of NQC decided that making it work with C was a waste of time |
| 04:36.18 | mheath | I just felt like ranting a bit. I'm just frustrated after having to teach a bunch of people in my class NQC...... |
| 04:36.38 | mheath | Yeah, Mike programs in C! He can teach us! Then they expect me to teach them a weird language I've never dealt with before... |
| 04:37.47 | SpecialK | !C ? |
| 04:38.30 | mheath | Haha |
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| 08:39.01 | mheath | I love my job...heh. |
| 08:39.36 | mheath | Free computer stuff. We're clearing out our back room, making way for our new warehousing system..I get my pick of whatever the boss says to chuck |
| 08:40.01 | mheath | so far I've gotten a PII dual proc server, and upgraded my main box from a 450 Mhz PII to a 450 Mhz PIII with more RAM |
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| 16:09.48 | brailsmt | weee |
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| 16:14.56 | levi-treo | Yo. |
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| 16:27.53 | levi-treo | Yo. |
| 16:28.30 | mheath | Good morning |
| 16:28.46 | Maquis | mornin |
| 16:29.07 | levi-treo | Wow, people talking. |
| 16:29.15 | levi-treo | Wassup? |
| 16:29.57 | mheath | What's friday? |
| 16:30.05 | Maquis | i get to go to a day of brainshare!!!! |
| 16:30.18 | mheath | "brainshare"? |
| 16:30.18 | Maquis | (w00t!) |
| 16:30.25 | levi-treo | Oooh. :) |
| 16:30.40 | Maquis | mheath: http://www.novell.com/brainshare/ |
| 16:31.32 | mheath | Ah. |
| 16:32.30 | levi-treo | I've never been, though someone tried to talk me into going before. |
| 16:32.55 | mheath | Sounds pricey. I'm not even going to look at the price... |
| 16:33.43 | Maquis | mheath: i'm getting in free... |
| 16:33.49 | mheath | Argh...why is it that Northern Utah has no decent Martial Arts programs? |
| 16:33.51 | mheath | Maquis, awesome |
| 16:33.53 | Maquis | from people who are also getting in free, but can't make it friday |
| 16:34.07 | Maquis | ummm... so, i coulda sworn that it was hot earlier this week |
| 16:34.13 | Maquis | but now it's snowing? |
| 16:35.00 | levi-treo | It was hot the previous week, cool last week, and cold now. |
| 16:35.14 | Maquis | ah |
| 16:35.17 | Maquis | right |
| 16:35.25 | Maquis | but... as we move toward summer... shouldn't it go the other way? |
| 16:35.34 | mheath | This is very off topic for this channel, but anyone happen to know a place or person who does training in Iaido? |
| 16:36.28 | levi-treo | In general, yes, but there are always bumps in the general trend. |
| 16:37.07 | levi-treo | I don't know about martial arts in Utah. |
| 16:40.02 | Maquis | see, seattle's weather is so much more predictable... |
| 16:40.26 | mheath | Hahaha. |
| 16:40.35 | Maquis | it is |
| 16:40.37 | levi-treo | I dunno about that. |
| 16:40.40 | Maquis | if it's not raining now, it will be soon |
| 16:40.54 | Maquis | (ok... so, we occasionally have it a bit more varied than that... but still) |
| 16:41.12 | levi-treo | My family lives there. |
| 16:41.21 | Maquis | i've lived there since i was born :) |
| 16:42.25 | levi-treo | If the weather was that predictable, the length of time living there wouldn't matter. :) |
| 16:43.46 | Maquis | :) |
| 16:44.56 | levi-treo | Utah weather is actually not that unpredictable. |
| 16:45.14 | mheath | Go to colorado |
| 16:45.19 | mheath | Their weather is horribly unpredictable |
| 16:45.37 | mheath | You'll have a perfectly clear, sunny sky and it can be pouring rain 20 minutes later. |
| 16:49.02 | mheath | *gone* |
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| 19:31.13 | emcnabb | http://photos.nondot.org/2002-01-10-Bretts-Wedding/normal/13%20-%20Grooms%20Cake.jpg |
| 19:31.52 | mheath | Hahaha, thats awesome |
| 19:32.02 | mheath | But I want a wedding cake with a GNU head on it :D |
| 19:32.34 | mheath | Er, "Grooms cake" or whatever that is. |
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| 20:33.23 | Maquis | emcnabb: ummm..... |
| 20:33.45 | emcnabb | Lisa said I can have that grooms cake |
| 20:33.53 | emcnabb | it was her idea actually |
| 20:34.02 | Maquis | really? |
| 20:34.06 | emcnabb | yeah |
| 20:34.09 | Maquis | lisa's way cool :) |
| 20:34.31 | Maquis | (i still want to meet her) |
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