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| 06:25.27 | xbmodder | WE ARE THE BORG. RESISTANCE IS FUTILE. YOU WILL BE ASSIMILATED. |
| 06:29.00 | Maquis | we don't care |
| 06:29.20 | xbmodder | that took a while |
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| 07:14.21 | Hhhhh | whazzup every1 |
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| 07:41.48 | xbmodder-cell | hey |
| 07:45.02 | xbmodder-cell | hey |
| 10:14.01 | bonez41 | if I want a file to be read only ..for everyone....what would the permissions be, using chmod ? |
| 10:31.26 | jce | I thinks it's 444 |
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| 15:29.16 | hans | ~lart vontrapp |
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| 16:11.27 | vontrapp | ~lart hanstrapp |
| 16:12.33 | tene | !lart vontrapp |
| 16:12.38 | tene | ~lart vontrapp |
| 16:16.53 | levi | Yo. |
| 16:16.55 | Maquis | ~lart hozed systems...\ |
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| 16:26.16 | vontrapp | who uses adobe's acrobat for linux? |
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| 16:27.56 | vontrapp | i run it and get an all too helpful "Aborted" |
| 16:28.32 | vontrapp | but an strace reveals it can't find the file /usr/local/Acrobat5/FntNames.db |
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| 16:31.24 | vontrapp | you'd think the installer would install such a file for which the lack of provokes the program to "Aborted" the process |
| 16:32.02 | vontrapp | anywaste, does anybody know where i might find the aformentioned file? |
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| 16:41.17 | tensai | vontrapp: I have no such file and my acrobat 5 works fine |
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| 16:50.28 | vontrapp | well, maybe it's not the file, but this is what i get from strace: |
| 16:50.35 | vontrapp | open("/home/von/src/residentmap/FntNames.db", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) |
| 16:50.38 | vontrapp | --- SIGSEGV (Segmentation fault) @ 0 (0) --- |
| 16:50.52 | vontrapp | the segfault may be unrelated.... |
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| 17:00.53 | tensai | does it dump core? try pulling it up in gdb and see where it actually segfaults. |
| 17:01.09 | tensai | ulimit -c unlimited |
| 17:03.34 | vontrapp | the trace goes back about 1193 calls before it gets "Error accessing memory address 0xc0000000: No such file or directory." |
| 17:03.38 | vontrapp | that's from gdb |
| 17:04.39 | tensai | well that didn't help much. what's the code at that line? :P |
| 17:15.05 | vontrapp | oh, here, it's 0F303FE3100DE00F83FAC76E5200BBF |
| 17:15.36 | vontrapp | :/ |
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| 17:57.59 | levi | Man, it's quiet here today. |
| 17:58.30 | tensai | ~lart anybody who sends an email containing only a Word doc and a sig |
| 17:59.35 | tensai | I think I'm going to start a photo blog. Want to join me, levi? |
| 18:00.11 | levi | I brought my camera in to work with the intention of sending some photos of the remodeling/redecorating work we've been doing to my parents, but I forgot the USB cable. :/ |
| 18:00.39 | levi | I don't think I'd be any more active at photoblogging than I would at textblogging. |
| 18:00.48 | tensai | heh. I just realized that I sent my camera off to Oregon with my wife. Guess that means I'll wait. |
| 18:01.19 | levi | I do think I'll play around with my filter lenses during lunch, though. |
| 18:01.42 | levi | I have a UV filter and a polarizing filter. |
| 18:02.25 | tensai | cool. I've thought about getting some filters and just holding them up in front of the lens, since they won't attach |
| 18:05.27 | tensai | ~3 cheers for compression |
| 18:05.29 | ibot | Hip hip, hooray for compression! Hip hip ... Ah, you know the rest. |
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| 18:07.23 | Maquis | ~hug resiliant filesystems that don't mind getting resized multiple times |
| 18:07.25 | ibot | ACTION hugs resiliant filesystems that don't mind getting resized multiple times |
| 18:08.09 | levi | tensai: My camera has a nifty screw-on adapter for 55mm lenses. |
| 18:09.07 | tensai | Maquis: you would have appreciated LVM. it makes resizing filesystems a cinch |
| 18:09.16 | Maquis | tensai: yeah... that would've been nice |
| 18:09.29 | Maquis | i resized my partitions and filesystems quite a number of times this weekend... |
| 18:09.40 | Maquis | multiple times had my filesystem larger than my partition... |
| 18:09.50 | Maquis | and somehow, it all came out ok... |
| 18:09.51 | tensai | I noticed but didn't have anything particularly useful to say besides "you should have used lvm" |
| 18:09.57 | Maquis | :) |
| 18:10.31 | tensai | ~lart sysadmins who forget to install SMP kernels on their SMP boxes |
| 18:10.51 | tensai | yes, that was me. I wondered why the box was such a dog. |
| 18:10.55 | Maquis | haha |
| 18:11.28 | Maquis | so, you're larting yourself in a generic sense? |
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| 19:07.05 | hans | ~lart someobdy |
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| 20:31.27 | vontrapp | mmmmm, mole |
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| 21:09.25 | levi | vontrapp: Was that a star-nosed mole? |
| 21:09.47 | vontrapp | mol¡ |
| 21:10.11 | levi | I know, I was just joking. |
| 21:10.40 | vontrapp | grr, no it was button nosed |
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| 21:56.01 | joshc | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:56.13 | synic | yes |
| 21:57.19 | xilch_ | la caille is synic's fave |
| 21:57.29 | synic | oh baby |
| 21:57.44 | hatchmt | I drive by it every day and have gone to see the lights but have never sampled their food. |
| 21:57.48 | xilch_ | he loves spending all his loot for chef boyardee noodles, minus the noodels |
| 21:57.53 | synic | great atmosphere, terrible food, costs too much. |
| 21:58.11 | synic | the best tasting thing that we ordered was the escargo |
| 21:58.20 | synic | which was actually surprisingly good |
| 21:58.29 | hatchmt | yuk |
| 21:58.48 | xilch_ | you are definitely paying for the atmosphere only when you eat there - and paying for it dearly |
| 21:59.27 | synic | joshc: the metropolitan is much better. Cheaper, and the food actually tastes good. |
| 22:00.35 | hans | joshc: I've been there |
| 22:00.44 | hans | didn't pay, thankfully |
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| 22:01.12 | synic | yeah, and like $50 a plate. |
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| 22:01.39 | hans | fun. well, it was fun because I wasn't paying. If I was, I wouldn't have called it fun |
| 22:01.39 | joshc | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:02.05 | hans | more like $100/person I think |
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| 22:02.21 | synic | I didn't like it |
| 22:02.25 | hans | never heard of the metropolitan |
| 22:02.32 | hans | joshc: the food wasn't bad |
| 22:02.45 | hans | but it doesn't stick out in my mind either. I don't even remember what I had. |
| 22:03.07 | synic | metropolitan is like 300S 300W downtown |
| 22:03.15 | hans | the chocolate covered strawberries were ok, I remember those. and my brother in law got some flambe dessert that didn't flambe enough |
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| 22:03.57 | hans | yeah |
| 22:04.02 | hans | good luck |
| 22:04.12 | joshc | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:04.21 | hans | if you have the money to throw at it, la caille is great |
| 22:04.23 | joshc | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:04.34 | hans | the food may not be memorable but the experience would be |
| 22:04.44 | joshc | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:05.13 | hans | me, I'm happy going to macaroni grill and tucanos |
| 22:05.22 | hans | with apologies to bradipo and his italian food mafia |
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| 22:06.04 | Maquis | macaroni grill..... mmmmm.....!!!!! |
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| 22:10.08 | tensai | joshc: Osaka was down on center street. dunno if it's still there. |
| 22:10.35 | tensai | ate there once. they ruined my wife's oyakodon |
| 22:10.58 | hans | there's a japanese place on center called demae now |
| 22:11.03 | hans | don't know if it's the same. |
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| 22:11.47 | tensai | egg and chicken on rice. 'oya' means parent, 'ko' means child and 'don' is a bowl |
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| 22:13.14 | tensai | there's another japanese place on state street in orem. they serve a great traditional meal called the 'Orem Dinner'. |
| 22:13.47 | jsmith | Hmmmmn... Japanese food..... |
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| 22:29.07 | Bradipo | hans: Only two *authentic* Italian restaurants that I know of. |
| 22:29.24 | Bradipo | Many people don't actually like *authentic* Italian either. |
| 22:30.05 | hans | which are they? |
| 22:30.08 | levi | Bradipo: What restaurants? |
| 22:30.14 | Bradipo | Cucina Toscana. |
| 22:30.21 | Bradipo | And Michelangelo. |
| 22:30.38 | Bradipo | There was one down in Provo called Dal Fornello, but the owners sold the business. |
| 22:30.54 | Bradipo | It was one of the best Italian restaurants I have ever been too. |
| 22:31.05 | Bradipo | Here in Utah that is. |
| 22:31.41 | Bradipo | http://www.cucina-toscana.com/index.html |
| 22:31.53 | Bradipo | http://www.cucina-toscana.com/about/about1.html |
| 22:32.08 | Jayce^ | dal fornello was good |
| 22:32.09 | Bradipo | Hmm, not sure why their index.html is broken, but google knows all. |
| 22:32.24 | Bradipo | Jayce^: I ate there every weekend (helps if you know the family) |
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| 22:32.30 | Jayce^ | hehe |
| 22:32.37 | levi | Hrm, unfortunately I never got to Dal Fornello. |
| 22:33.05 | Bradipo | In fact, the chef from Dal Fornello moved to Canada and opened up a very successful restaurant there. |
| 22:33.18 | tensai | road trip to canada |
| 22:34.33 | Bradipo | http://metronews.ca/column_martys_eats.asp?id=6657&cid=645 |
| 22:34.48 | Bradipo | That article mentions his new restaurant, Gianni e Maria Trattoria |
| 22:35.11 | Bradipo | Includes the address if you're interested in a road trip. :-) |
| 22:35.20 | levi | Hmm. I'll have to try Cucina Toscana on a special occasion. |
| 22:35.45 | Bradipo | Yeah, its a bit pricey, but if you appreciate Italian food, its most likely worth it. |
| 22:35.55 | levi | Ooh, they have risotto. |
| 22:36.25 | Jayce^ | man, anybody see Iron Chef America last night? had an italian chef on that blew it big time |
| 22:36.30 | Jayce^ | only finished 2 dishes |
| 22:37.05 | levi | I understand there are significant regional variations of 'Italian'. I assume Cucina Toscana is Tuscan. |
| 22:38.59 | Bradipo | Yeah, there are definitely regions. |
| 22:39.00 | levi | Looks like Michelangelo Ristorante is as well. |
| 22:39.06 | Bradipo | I was in Sicilia and Calabria. |
| 22:39.15 | Bradipo | Dal Fornello was mostly Romano. |
| 22:39.23 | levi | There are no authentic other-than-Tuscan Italian restaurants around now? |
| 22:39.32 | Bradipo | Not really. |
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| 22:39.42 | Bradipo | La Dolce Vita used to be pretty authentic casalinga. |
| 22:39.50 | Bradipo | But it seems to have changed. |
| 22:39.58 | Bradipo | casalinga is home style cooking. |
| 22:40.40 | Bradipo | levi: It's possible that there is some small, less frequented restaurant that I don't know about. |
| 22:41.07 | Bradipo | Heck, it could even be in Logan or some small town. |
| 22:41.20 | levi | Oh well. I guess I will have to visit Italy. :) |
| 22:41.25 | levi | That would make my wife happy. |
| 22:41.32 | Bradipo | Possibly. |
| 22:41.43 | Bradipo | I have heard that not all Americans like Italy. |
| 22:41.50 | Bradipo | Their lifestyle is truly different. |
| 22:41.56 | hans | strangely enough, all this talk has made me hungry for authentic peruvian food. |
| 22:42.05 | Bradipo | hans: Do you like La Carreta? |
| 22:42.14 | hans | tallarines verdes. papas a la guancayina or however you spell that |
| 22:42.14 | levi | She loves Europe in general. Went backpacking through several European countries a few years ago. |
| 22:42.25 | hans | Bradipo: yeah. haven't been too often but I liked it |
| 22:42.27 | Bradipo | I eat there every once in a while and its pretty good, though I don't really know *real* Peruvian. |
| 22:42.40 | Bradipo | levi: that helps. |
| 22:42.48 | bucky | i'm going to the reservation for some authentic fry bread... right now |
| 22:42.50 | hans | alas, they don't have tallarines verdes on the menu, although the nice little old lady said they would make it if I requested in advance |
| 22:43.06 | Bradipo | Many people think Europe is a romantic place, but when they get there think it is a filthy place. |
| 22:43.29 | hans | Bradipo: isn't that the same thing? |
| 22:43.32 | levi | Bradipo: Of course, she was on a shoestring budget and didn't know languages, so she didn't eat at many nice restaurants. :) |
| 22:43.47 | Bradipo | hans: I guess. |
| 22:44.02 | levi | I want to go on a bicycle tour of Europe. |
| 22:44.03 | hans | but a lot of people don't think of it that way |
| 22:44.24 | hans | I want to spend some time in england |
| 22:44.44 | Bradipo | http://www.giannimaria.com/ (Dal Fornello's chef's new restaurant) |
| 22:44.53 | vontrapp | to see if there's coconuts and french there? |
| 22:45.27 | hans | mostly because I want the experience, and love to hear english |
| 22:45.33 | hans | maybe I could pick up the accent too |
| 22:45.35 | hans | that would be fun. ;) |
| 22:45.38 | levi | Heh. |
| 22:45.43 | Bradipo | I wouldn't mind going back to Italy, don't care much for England though. |
| 22:45.45 | Bradipo | But then I'm biased. |
| 22:45.56 | Bradipo | I think Switzerland would also be nice. |
| 22:45.57 | levi | Yeah, you silly foreign missioners. |
| 22:45.58 | hans | it's inexplicable, but I just love listening to brits |
| 22:46.28 | Bradipo | I think the British accent is cool too actually. |
| 22:46.31 | levi | I served in San Diego, and it's got some nice aspects, but I didn't fall in love with it or anything. I assume the experience is significantly different in a foreign country. |
| 22:47.13 | vontrapp | australian accent is cool too |
| 22:47.37 | hans | Bradipo: all of their accents, actually. |
| 22:47.43 | Bradipo | levi: Yeah, sometimes too different. I knew some who couldn't stand eating pasta every day, much less the people. |
| 22:48.42 | levi | Well, some people just can't deal with anything outside of their realm of experience. I don't understand those people, but I know they exist. |
| 22:48.47 | Bradipo | There was one guy who refused to speak Italian (imagine that). |
| 22:49.08 | Bradipo | We had a hard time communicating since I often refused to speak English. :-) |
| 22:49.21 | Jayce^ | Bradipo, good move :) |
| 22:50.28 | levi | Heh. Well, a large percentage of 19-21 year-olds are idiots, and the percentage amongst missionaries was only a bit smaller than for the population at large. ;) |
| 22:50.36 | Jayce^ | smaller? :) |
| 22:51.40 | levi | Well, yeah... the population at large includes those idiotic enough to get thrown in jail. |
| 22:52.16 | Jayce^ | and then there are those who got stuck in the office for a while, and saw what *really* went on with those guys |
| 22:53.17 | Bradipo | lol |
| 22:53.31 | hans | there's a guy in my ward who seems to be in every way the stereotypical gunner, who was also a football player (on BYU's team) |
| 22:53.36 | bucky | i'm off to see the chosen people |
| 22:53.39 | hans | I can't ever quite reconcile it in my head |
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| 23:11.13 | scott_ | hans, do a lot of blank emails get through your bogofilter? I get blank emails from unknown addresses on unknown times quite often--it's actually the only thing that gets through bogofilter |
| 23:11.35 | hans | scott_: I don't know what percentage get through, but I do get some |
| 23:11.45 | hans | not a lot though. maybe one every few days |
| 23:12.02 | hans | not very effective as spam, though. someone wasn't thinking. ;-) |
| 23:19.52 | scott_ | they're a pain though because other than that, nothing gets past the mighty bogofilter |
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| 23:20.05 | scott_ | and out of 4000 spam blocked over the last few weeks only 1 wasn't spam |
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| 23:43.13 | *** topic/#utah by Jayce^ -> The source for OSS focused discussion in Utah. See plug.org, uug.byu.edu, sllug.org, fslc.usu.edu, etc. Utah Windows Admins Anonymous: utwaa.org | Wednesday PLUG and NUPM meetings : NUPM - Taint and CGI::Ex : PLUG - cscope and editor integration |
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| 23:54.13 | bonez41 | does anyone publish a list of services, hardware, etc., which is compatible with linux, with the philosophy behind OSS.....? |
| 23:55.01 | bonez41 | I ask, since I am discoverng that the cell phone I got from Cingular, despite performing well, is pretty useless in terms of interconnecting with other devices, synchronizing data, etc..... |
| 23:55.16 | bonez41 | had I known this, I would have opted for a different phone in the first place. |