| 00:00.45 | goozbach | this rocks |
| 00:01.01 | goozbach | I love this phone |
| 00:01.12 | Maquis | haha |
| 00:06.19 | LeviHome | Just finished watching Yojimbo. |
| 00:06.28 | LeviHome | I love that film. :) |
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| 00:06.45 | goozbach | well leaving the pcs coverage area |
| 00:06.55 | LeviHome | Seeya gooz. |
| 00:06.57 | goozbach | ttya laters |
| 00:07.18 | goozbach | this phone is PIMP |
| 00:08.13 | findlay | anybody know a good place to find hires desktop backgrounds? |
| 00:10.46 | LeviHome | Hrm... take a digital camera next time you go to Hires? ;) |
| 00:15.15 | jsmith | findlay: Depends on what type of backgrounds you like. |
| 00:15.33 | jsmith | findlay: A lot of people like digitalblasphemy.com and cognitivedistortion.com |
| 00:17.44 | findlay | OK, haven't found much with google images, though I haven't looked very hard |
| 00:18.39 | findlay | it would be nice if such sites dangled their wares before the google machine, though |
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| 00:33.39 | scott_ | anyone going to byu spring or summer? |
| 00:42.01 | mheath | Ugh, messed up my gnome installation |
| 00:45.19 | mheath | And my intrenet has slowed down to a crawl.. |
| 00:45.26 | mheath | *internet |
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| 01:08.07 | bonez39 | I started writing an email with prompt > mail addy@domain.com etc.... |
| 01:08.22 | bonez39 | I have written the letter and want to send it now..how do I end the body of the email and have it send? |
| 01:09.04 | bonez39 | after entering mail addy@domain.com it produced a line Subject: and then just blank to enter the note..how does one end so it will save and then mail out? |
| 01:10.03 | bonez39 | nevermind...I found my answer |
| 01:10.05 | bonez39 | man maii |
| 01:10.07 | bonez39 | man mail |
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| 01:11.03 | bonez39 | hi byronc |
| 01:11.10 | byronc | hello |
| 01:15.24 | bonez39 | byronc, do you use a wireless phone? we have att but are thinking of moving to verizon.... |
| 01:15.35 | bonez39 | any experience either direction. do you have any? |
| 01:24.15 | glass-eye | whoa...people are alive in utah! |
| 01:24.35 | byronc | bonez39: I use verizon |
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| 01:25.46 | byronc | seems to work fine |
| 01:26.13 | spr | ~lart strange terminal errors |
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| 01:29.52 | bonez39 | byronc, do you travel for work? My wife and thus I also, will be traveling..to florida, and virginia and cal and elsewhere..we need to figure out an option so that our calls to each other are free and so that we dont' get clobbered with roaming charges.. |
| 01:38.51 | byronc | I only have a local plan... |
| 01:46.15 | bonez39 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 02:49.55 | Maquis | byronc: torriem (i think) showed me a link to something that makes qemu run a lot faster... |
| 02:49.59 | Maquis | let me grab the link real quick |
| 02:50.50 | Maquis | http://fabrice.bellard.free.fr/qemu/qemu-accel.html |
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| 03:16.32 | fishyfire | I have a question or two if anyone out there can help. |
| 03:16.43 | fishyfire | I updated from fedora 1 to fedora 3 |
| 03:16.47 | fishyfire | doing a fresh install |
| 03:17.03 | fishyfire | But I didn't find any option where I could make a boot disk |
| 03:17.12 | fishyfire | Does anyone know how to do that? |
| 03:20.02 | fishyfire | I don't really want the floppy, I want to be able to add the files to my lilo bootloader... But don't know how to go about it any other way |
| 03:34.08 | findlay | any vim users here? |
| 03:34.54 | findlay | [justin@archimedes ~]$ whereis mkbootdisk |
| 03:34.54 | findlay | mkbootdisk: /sbin/mkbootdisk /usr/share/man/man8/mkbootdisk.8.gz |
| 03:35.15 | Maquis | findlay: not a very knowledgeable one, but i do use vim |
| 03:35.19 | byronc | Maquis: cool |
| 03:35.24 | Maquis | :) |
| 03:35.41 | Maquis | btw, i don't recommend removing ~/.mozilla/firefox/default.dxn |
| 03:35.55 | findlay | how do I specify a newline in vim's regular expressions? |
| 03:36.10 | Maquis | findlay: sorry... you'll have to ask someone else on that one... |
| 03:36.39 | findlay | like suppose I wanted to replace spaces with newlines, %s/\ /\n\g doesn't seem to work |
| 03:36.53 | byronc | findlay: does Ctrl-V Enter work? |
| 03:37.00 | findlay | it simply replaces the spaces with some strange control character |
| 03:37.09 | findlay | byronc: don't know, let me try that |
| 03:37.47 | byronc | it doesn't work, I should have tried it first |
| 03:37.52 | findlay | byronc: thanks, that's it (: |
| 03:38.01 | findlay | well, it seem to work here |
| 03:39.59 | byronc | ahh, I was just doing a search to test it |
| 03:40.15 | Maquis | http://students.cs.byu.edu/~sharmahd/oops.jpg |
| 03:41.17 | jsmith | Uh... that's not cool. |
| 03:41.26 | Maquis | it's resolved |
| 03:41.49 | Maquis | aside from the fact that it deleted *all* of my profiles and bookmarks... |
| 03:41.59 | findlay | ha |
| 03:42.03 | findlay | |lart Maquis |
| 03:42.13 | Maquis | ~lart findlay |
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| 03:42.40 | Maquis | |lart findlay |
| 03:42.47 | findlay | |lart Maquis |
| 03:42.51 | Maquis | |lart findlay |
| 03:42.56 | Maquis | |lart findlay |
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| 03:43.10 | findlay | fishyfire: mkbootdisk |
| 03:43.33 | fishyfire | I saw that name but how exactly does it work? |
| 03:43.44 | fishyfire | can i run it from mdk10.1? |
| 03:43.47 | findlay | don't know (: |
| 03:43.57 | findlay | do you have it installed? |
| 03:44.03 | fishyfire | i did |
| 03:44.21 | findlay | you want a boot disk for your current kernel? |
| 03:44.25 | fishyfire | but then it seemed like it would only make a boot disk for the os that was running |
| 03:44.36 | findlay | ah |
| 03:44.44 | fishyfire | I am running mandrake |
| 03:44.52 | fishyfire | but want to make a boot disk for fedora |
| 03:44.57 | fishyfire | well i don't really want the boot disk |
| 03:45.04 | findlay | do you dual boot to fedora? |
| 03:45.08 | fishyfire | i just want the files from it, to add to my mandrake boot file |
| 03:45.15 | findlay | grub? |
| 03:45.18 | findlay | or lilo |
| 03:45.32 | fishyfire | I have a quad-boot |
| 03:45.33 | fishyfire | lilo |
| 03:46.14 | fishyfire | I had it working with fedora 1 |
| 03:46.19 | fishyfire | then decided I wanted to upgrade it |
| 03:46.47 | findlay | do you have a seperate boot partition? |
| 03:47.46 | fishyfire | What I did before was take the vmlinuz and initrd.img from the fedora boot disk and placed them in my /boot folder, and then i added them to the boot menu |
| 03:48.13 | findlay | that should work |
| 03:48.30 | findlay | what error do you get booting fedora |
| 03:48.40 | fishyfire | the only problem is i can't figure out how to make a boot disk for fedora 3 |
| 03:48.45 | fishyfire | kernel panic |
| 03:49.02 | fishyfire | because I am using the old boot files from fedora 1 (is my guess) |
| 03:49.21 | findlay | but you have the vmlinuz and initrd.img for fedora in /boot? |
| 03:49.33 | findlay | yes that would be significant |
| 03:49.36 | fishyfire | I have the old ones in boot |
| 03:49.53 | findlay | you need to get the initrd and vmlinuz for FC3 |
| 03:50.11 | fishyfire | yes, do you know how I would go about doing that? |
| 03:50.32 | findlay | they will be in the boot partition of your FC3 partition |
| 03:50.47 | findlay | boot directory |
| 03:50.55 | findlay | or |
| 03:51.06 | fishyfire | the boot partition that i didn't make because i didn't want to overwrite my current lilo configuration? |
| 03:51.43 | findlay | you could chainload it which would be better |
| 03:51.53 | findlay | ok, here's what you need to do |
| 03:51.55 | fishyfire | chainload it? |
| 03:52.20 | findlay | yeah, tell lilo on which partition the kernel resides |
| 03:52.34 | findlay | I don't know if lilo can do that, but grub can |
| 03:53.10 | findlay | mount /mnt/fedora && chroot /mnt/fedora |
| 03:53.40 | fishyfire | for lilo I tell it the location of the image and the location of the initrd |
| 03:53.46 | fishyfire | and where root is |
| 03:53.52 | findlay | ok |
| 03:54.03 | fishyfire | ....if that helps at all.... |
| 03:54.17 | fishyfire | sorry I am still not very experienced with this |
| 03:54.33 | findlay | do those commands above as root |
| 03:54.45 | findlay | (mount your fedora partition and chroot to it) |
| 03:55.49 | fishyfire | maybe i am doing it wrong but it told me "can't find /mnt/fedora in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab" |
| 03:56.12 | findlay | ok, but you are in root mode now? |
| 03:56.20 | fishyfire | yes |
| 03:56.41 | Maquis | fdisk -l |
| 03:56.48 | findlay | mkdir /mnt/fedora && mount /dev/hd?? /mnt/fedora |
| 03:57.00 | fishyfire | would it be a problem if they are on two different hard drives? |
| 03:57.01 | findlay | where hd?? is the partition on which your fedora install is |
| 03:57.04 | findlay | no |
| 03:57.08 | fishyfire | ok |
| 03:57.44 | fishyfire | the partition where my root for fedora is? |
| 03:57.49 | findlay | yes |
| 03:58.17 | fishyfire | okay that worked |
| 03:58.30 | findlay | you chroot-ed to fedora? |
| 03:59.38 | fishyfire | i typed in the mkdir /mnt/fedora && mount /dev/hdb5 /mnt/fedora |
| 03:59.48 | findlay | now chroot /mnt/fedora |
| 04:00.15 | fishyfire | bash: id: command not found |
| 04:00.16 | fishyfire | bash: [: too many arguments |
| 04:00.16 | fishyfire | bash: dircolors: command not found |
| 04:00.17 | fishyfire | bash: id: command not found |
| 04:00.19 | fishyfire | bash: [: =: unary operator expected |
| 04:00.28 | Maquis | findlay: do you have to cd /mnt/fedora before chrooting? |
| 04:00.35 | findlay | Maquis: no |
| 04:00.38 | Maquis | cool |
| 04:00.40 | Maquis | i didn't know that |
| 04:00.56 | Maquis | findlay: what did you type in? |
| 04:00.59 | findlay | fishyfire: are you in the chroot now, aside from your initrc errors? |
| 04:01.19 | Maquis | nm |
| 04:01.29 | fishyfire | root@localhost / means i am in the chroot? |
| 04:01.39 | Maquis | should... |
| 04:01.44 | fishyfire | then yes |
| 04:01.44 | findlay | type cat /etc/redhat-release |
| 04:01.59 | findlay | type 'cat /etc/*release' |
| 04:02.37 | fishyfire | Fedora Core release 3 (Heidelberg) |
| 04:02.40 | findlay | OK |
| 04:03.21 | fishyfire | Fedora Core release 3 (Heidelberg) |
| 04:03.22 | fishyfire | LSB_VERSION="1.3" |
| 04:03.22 | fishyfire | Fedora Core release 3 (Heidelberg) |
| 04:03.46 | fishyfire | okay i found the boot folder in fedora! |
| 04:04.08 | findlay | ~congratulate fishyfire |
| 04:04.10 | ibot | ACTION congratulates fishyfire on being a new owner of a $500 brick. |
| 04:04.29 | findlay | now you know a new powerful command 'chroot' |
| 04:04.34 | findlay | use it wisely (-: |
| 04:04.44 | fishyfire | i still don't quite understand what it does... |
| 04:05.09 | findlay | you change your root directory to a new system |
| 04:05.27 | findlay | effectively you are running fedora now, inside of your running mandrake system |
| 04:05.40 | fishyfire | oh! awesome! |
| 04:05.51 | fishyfire | thanks for your help! and being patient with me |
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| 04:06.15 | findlay | you're still running the mandrake kernel, though |
| 04:06.42 | findlay | and you can bind mount partitions to inside of the nested system, like proc |
| 04:08.13 | findlay | lucky |
| 04:14.27 | Maquis | no idea how it would be possible, but it would be rather cool if you could change to a new kernel without having to reboot... |
| 04:14.36 | fishyfire | that would be cool |
| 04:15.02 | fishyfire | well i am off to try and see if it works |
| 04:15.10 | fishyfire | thanks again for all the help! |
| 04:18.18 | findlay | Maquis: I heard about doing that a few months ago |
| 04:18.24 | Maquis | really? |
| 04:18.26 | Maquis | how? |
| 04:19.29 | findlay | if you can run a virtual machine, it couldn't be that much harder to have the running kernel hand over system management to the virtual-booted kernel |
| 04:19.51 | findlay | imagine what uptimes you could get then |
| 04:26.41 | Maquis | yeah... |
| 04:26.59 | Maquis | my downtime is generally either from roommates unplugging things, or from swapping kernels... |
| 04:27.23 | Maquis | (on my desktop... on my laptop, it's from the fact that my battery stinks, so i have to turn it off when i'm not plugged in or using it) |
| 04:27.28 | Maquis | (or to swap batteries) |
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| 04:28.34 | findlay | ha |
| 04:28.40 | findlay | ~lart Maquis' roomates |
| 04:29.30 | fishyfire | i'm in fedora3 now! |
| 04:29.52 | findlay | only linux users have a thing about uptime |
| 04:30.00 | Maquis | findlay: that might not be the most useful thing to teach them... |
| 04:30.43 | findlay | can you even imagine two windows fanboys bragging about their uptime? |
| 04:30.58 | findlay | does windows even have an uptime? |
| 04:31.13 | findlay | what kind of lame system doesn't even tell you how long it's been on? (: |
| 04:31.49 | Maquis | findlay: i know that there's a MS knowledge base article talking about how one of the windows versions becomes unstable after 49.5 days.. |
| 04:32.29 | Maquis | i was surprised they kept it up that long... |
| 04:32.38 | findlay | I've started turning off my computer when not in use, because it drains power, power costs money, and it's really noisy |
| 04:33.42 | Maquis | "Could not initialize the browser's security component. The most likely cause is problems with files in your browser's profile directory. Please check that this directory has no read/write restrictions and your hard disk is not full or close to full. It is recommended that you exit the browser and fix the problem. If you continue to use this browser session, you might see incorrect browser behavior when accessing security features." |
| 04:35.56 | Maquis | http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=216641& |
| 04:43.21 | findlay | does anybody know where to get desktop size temple pictures? |
| 04:43.37 | Maquis | for your entertainment: http://jazzkeyboard.com/jill/qarticles.html |
| 04:43.50 | Maquis | findlay: i got most of mine from images.google.com (or whatever the google image search is) |
| 04:44.00 | Maquis | you have to sort through a lot, but they have some nice ones |
| 04:44.20 | findlay | no particular sites? |
| 04:51.09 | findlay | wow, googling for your name sure brings back things you've forgotten about |
| 04:51.37 | Maquis | findlay: lds.org has pictures of temples, and a very small number of them are background-sized |
| 04:51.47 | Maquis | most of them are really awkward sizes though |
| 04:52.09 | Maquis | salt-lake temple on lds.org is approximately the right proportions, as i recall... |
| 04:54.30 | Maquis | from ms knowledge-base: "After installing MS-DOS on a computer system with both MS-DOS and UNIX, your SCO UNIX login sign disappears." |
| 04:55.49 | findlay | though I'm `proud' to say that I'm the most googled Justin Findlay out there (: |
| 04:57.37 | Maquis | there's nobody else with the same name as me... |
| 04:57.59 | spr | why worry about the right size for backgrounds? gimp, imagemagick, etc! |
| 04:58.39 | findlay | cause, if it's 24x36, it's going to look awful if you scale it (-: |
| 05:02.18 | findlay | what are you talking about, I get ``396,000 for Maquis'' |
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| 05:02.34 | Maquis | :) |
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| 05:15.22 | Maquis | http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=304943 <-- read the "Status" |
| 05:17.09 | goozbach | Maquis: you and your searching microsoft |
| 05:17.11 | goozbach | ... |
| 05:17.14 | goozbach | I'm ashamed |
| 05:17.18 | goozbach | :) |
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| 05:20.15 | tensai | Maquis: hah! of course, filling a WinMe machine with >1GB of RAM is a huge waste. the computer will bsod long before you could use it all. but still... |
| 05:20.49 | Maquis | goozbach: nope |
| 05:20.53 | Maquis | see the link i posted above |
| 05:27.32 | findlay | all your ksirtet are own to findlay (: |
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| 05:39.40 | Maquis | Y Mientras Yo Me Quedo Sin Ti |
| 05:39.40 | Maquis | Como Un Huracan Rabioso Y Febril |
| 05:39.40 | Maquis | Tanta Pasion, Tanta Osadia Oh, Tu |
| 05:39.40 | Maquis | Fuego De Noche, Nieve De Dia |
| 05:39.40 | Maquis | Noche A Noche En Blanco Sin Dormir |
| 05:39.42 | Maquis | Ardo Entre Los Pliegues De Mi Cama |
| 05:39.44 | Maquis | Se Que Estas A Punto De Venir |
| 05:39.47 | Maquis | Pero Solo Viene La Manana |
| 05:44.57 | fishyfire | i have mandrake and fedora on my computer right now, any other suggestions of distro's to try? |
| 05:45.57 | linuxalien | Try Windows XP. It's superior to Linux. |
| 05:46.01 | linuxalien | j/k |
| 05:46.09 | Maquis | gentoo! |
| 05:46.19 | linuxalien | Ubuntu? I heard people saying they like it at an installfest I went to. |
| 05:46.21 | mheath | fishyfire: how familiar are you with linux? |
| 05:46.24 | brailsmt | anyone have a recommendation for financial software besides gnucash? |
| 05:46.43 | mheath | fishyfire: If your a competent sysadmin, you might want to take a look at slackware. |
| 05:47.01 | mheath | It's package format is minimal, and it doesn't hold your hand like some other distros... |
| 05:47.25 | mheath | But it's packages are amazing, and known to be some of the best/most stable/most secure ones around. |
| 05:47.38 | fishyfire | windows xp huh? that's the one that gives my viruses every time i go into it |
| 05:47.46 | fishyfire | (already have it unfortunately) |
| 05:48.01 | fishyfire | i don't think i would call myself a competent sysadmin |
| 05:48.12 | fishyfire | I like to use linux |
| 05:48.16 | mheath | fishyfire: well... |
| 05:48.32 | mheath | "competent sysadmin" == can use the command line, can compile software, etc. |
| 05:48.50 | fishyfire | right now I have a quad boot on my computer, xp, mdk10.1, fedora core 3, and debian |
| 05:49.07 | fishyfire | i can do some things on the command line |
| 05:49.21 | tensai | brailsmt: I've heard good things about moneydance. never used it before. |
| 05:49.34 | mheath | fishyfire: in a few months, use my distro :) |
| 05:49.41 | fishyfire | which will be? |
| 05:49.55 | linuxalien | fishyfire: Don't worry, I was kidding about XP. |
| 05:50.05 | fishyfire | lol, yeah i saw |
| 05:50.24 | linuxalien | Gentoo is nice too, and I've also heard good stuff about Slack. |
| 05:50.25 | mheath | RevoLinux (Thats a temporary name, a butchered version of the original, which I found out was sort of taken by something else) |
| 05:50.49 | fishyfire | gentoo was hard for me to get going last time i tried to install it |
| 05:50.59 | fishyfire | hmm |
| 05:50.59 | Maquis | fishyfire: i don't blame you for that |
| 05:51.26 | fishyfire | and debian doesn't work with the xserver right now because i have a usb mouse that it was balking at |
| 05:51.59 | Maquis | my laptop was my first gentoo install, and a combination of dying hardware and the fact that people weren't sitting on irc waiting to answer my every question all weekend combined so that a few things are kind of weird on my system... |
| 05:52.06 | mheath | fishyfire: if you're familiar enough with Linux enough that Gentoo's install process didn't completely overwelm/confuse you, Slackware shouldn't be too difficult for you. |
| 05:52.14 | Maquis | but it's still really cool to get that far into things with the install system |
| 05:52.58 | fishyfire | hmm... so if gentoo never made it onto the computer then maybe i should stay away from slackware? |
| 05:53.05 | mheath | fishyfire: no |
| 05:53.09 | mheath | You misunderstood me. |
| 05:53.34 | fishyfire | i guess i tend to take the graphical route over the command line most of the time |
| 05:53.46 | mheath | Unless you looked at the gentoo install docs and said "What in the world is this giberish about 'cp'?" then Slackware won't be too hard for you; |
| 05:54.10 | fishyfire | i should probably work on that more |
| 05:54.28 | fishyfire | i don't remember anything about a cp when i looked at it before |
| 05:54.35 | fishyfire | oh copy? |
| 05:54.47 | findlay | ~flame manti telephone |
| 05:54.49 | ibot | findlay sux0rz d00d!!!!!!!!!!!!!!@@!!!!!!!11 |
| 05:54.58 | Maquis | fishyfire: yeah... |
| 05:55.04 | Maquis | ummm... |
| 05:55.09 | Maquis | wow... that's interesting... |
| 05:55.30 | fishyfire | what?] |
| 05:55.39 | Maquis | ~flame findlay |
| 05:55.41 | ibot | Maquis sux0rz d00d!!!!!!!!!!!!!!@@!!!!!!!11 |
| 05:55.49 | fishyfire | lol |
| 05:57.12 | fishyfire | any comments about suse? |
| 05:57.55 | mheath | Never tried it. |
| 05:58.00 | mheath | Heard bad things about it. |
| 05:58.28 | mheath | IE, it tries to fit into the same croud as Mandrake and Fedora, but fails miserably in some areas/features that the others have. |
| 06:03.57 | tensai | fishyfire: I think sjansen's comment was "SuSE has some of the most amazing bash programmers. It's too bad they use their powers for evil." |
| 06:15.14 | fishyfire | evil? |
| 06:15.15 | brigham | evil is adj. As used by hackers, implies that some system, program, person, or institution is sufficiently maldesigned as to be not worth the bother of dealing with. Unlike the adjectives in the {cretinous}/{losing}/{brain-damaged} series, `evil' does not imply incompetence or bad See: evil2 |
| 06:15.32 | Maquis | wow... |
| 06:15.37 | tensai | apparently he doesn't approve of their shell scripts. you'll have to ask him for details. |
| 06:15.38 | Maquis | brigham did a nice job on that one... |
| 06:15.45 | fishyfire | oops didn't know that would happen |
| 06:15.55 | Maquis | maquis? |
| 06:15.55 | brigham | maquis is a budding Linux wizard facing distinct challenges on the path to becoming a grey beard. |
| 06:15.59 | Maquis | fishyfire? |
| 06:16.00 | brigham | fishyfire is a Mandrake user... you know how they can be |
| 06:16.07 | Maquis | tensai? |
| 06:16.07 | brigham | tensai is ten sighs or sigh sigh sigh sigh sigh sigh sigh sigh sigh sigh |
| 06:16.16 | Maquis | goozbach? |
| 06:16.16 | brigham | goozbach is cool |
| 06:16.24 | Maquis | emcnabb? |
| 06:16.25 | brigham | emcnabb is one of the coolest guys on #utah |
| 06:16.33 | Maquis | spr? |
| 06:16.33 | brigham | spr is currently on #utah (10m 25s) or SCO++ |
| 06:16.36 | fishyfire | mheath? |
| 06:16.48 | Maquis | mheath is unknown to brigham |
| 06:16.51 | Maquis | mheath? |
| 06:16.51 | brigham | mheath is unknown to brigham |
| 06:17.16 | fishyfire | SpecialK? |
| 06:17.16 | brigham | SpecialK is a cereal or good for you. or lart happy |
| 06:17.25 | fishyfire | linuxalien? |
| 06:17.25 | brigham | linuxalien is currently on #utah (5m 42s). Has said a total of 3 messages. Is idling for 1s |
| 06:17.40 | fishyfire | findlay? |
| 06:17.40 | brigham | findlay is the dense circumlocutionay flaxen-haired diverter of hot air |
| 06:17.46 | linuxalien | Yes? |
| 06:17.53 | fishyfire | brigham? |
| 06:17.53 | brigham | brigham is the Lion of the Lord |
| 06:18.02 | fishyfire | ibot? |
| 06:18.02 | brigham | ibot is a silly bot |
| 06:18.05 | Maquis | ldap? |
| 06:18.05 | brigham | ldap is kinda cool. |
| 06:18.13 | Maquis | gentoo? |
| 06:18.13 | brigham | Two-pane filemanager using GTK+, 100% GUI configurable. URL: http://www.obsession.se/gentoo/ or good for experimentation and learning more about how things fit together and work and such |
| 06:18.23 | Maquis | |forget gentoo |
| 06:18.24 | brigham | okay then :) |
| 06:18.27 | Maquis | gentoo? |
| 06:18.27 | brigham | Two-pane filemanager using GTK+, 100% GUI configurable. URL: http://www.obsession.se/gentoo/ |
| 06:18.31 | fishyfire | mandrake? |
| 06:18.32 | brigham | mandrake is not beeping pink |
| 06:18.34 | Maquis | |forget gentoo |
| 06:18.38 | Maquis | gentoo? |
| 06:18.38 | brigham | Two-pane filemanager using GTK+, 100% GUI configurable. URL: http://www.obsession.se/gentoo/ |
| 06:19.04 | mheath | I think that definition should be kept :) |
| 06:19.14 | mheath | The Gentoo file manager is older than gentoo the distro. |
| 06:19.24 | Maquis | red hat? |
| 06:19.25 | brigham | red hat is most popular with middle-of-the-road types who always end up following along with the crowd, even when everyone in the crowd is wearing a silly hat. |
| 06:19.36 | Maquis | fedora? |
| 06:19.36 | brigham | fedora is one of the worst distros i have ever used... |
| 06:19.42 | mheath | hahaha. |
| 06:19.43 | Maquis | suse? |
| 06:19.44 | brigham | suse is a good choice. |
| 06:19.49 | Maquis | brigham: forget suse |
| 06:19.50 | brigham | aight |
| 06:20.03 | mheath | brigham: suse is a horrible choice :) |
| 06:20.03 | brigham | sure |
| 06:20.21 | fishyfire | suse? |
| 06:20.22 | brigham | suse is a horrible choice :) |
| 06:20.23 | Maquis | peregrine? |
| 06:20.30 | Maquis | fluxcap? |
| 06:20.33 | Maquis | gurus? |
| 06:20.34 | brigham | gurus are cool! |
| 06:20.34 | fishyfire | fish? |
| 06:20.34 | brigham | fish is [Adelaide University, Australia] n. 1. Another metasyntactic variable. See {foo}. Derived originally from the Monty Python skit in the middle of "The Meaning of Life" entitled "Find the Fish". 2. A pun for `microfiche'. A microfiche file cabinet may be referred to as a `fish tank' |
| 06:20.39 | fishyfire | worms? |
| 06:20.46 | Maquis | pizza? |
| 06:20.47 | brigham | A small, fast and free compiler for Java. URL: http://www.cis.unisa.edu.au/~pizza/ |
| 06:21.24 | Maquis | what? |
| 06:21.24 | brigham | what are they supposed to do |
| 06:21.32 | Maquis | who? |
| 06:21.38 | Maquis | why? |
| 06:21.38 | mheath | when? |
| 06:21.38 | brigham | why is it that IBM has to show its code to AIX, when SCO won't show any code... |
| 06:21.47 | fishyfire | java? |
| 06:21.47 | brigham | java is a pain |
| 06:21.49 | Maquis | how? |
| 06:21.56 | Maquis | where? |
| 06:21.57 | fishyfire | c++? |
| 06:21.57 | brigham | c++ is good too |
| 06:22.01 | Maquis | c? |
| 06:22.01 | brigham | c is a great starting language |
| 06:22.06 | mheath | Agh! |
| 06:22.14 | mheath | brigham: forget c |
| 06:22.14 | brigham | can do! |
| 06:22.27 | fishyfire | gaim? |
| 06:22.27 | brigham | GTK based AOL Instant Messenger. URL: http://www.marko.net/gaim/ |
| 06:22.32 | fishyfire | gramps? |
| 06:22.32 | brigham | gramps is really shaping up, I think. |
| 06:22.41 | fishyfire | yellow dog? |
| 06:22.44 | mheath | brigham: c is the lowest level language commonly in use, and one of the most versatile |
| 06:22.44 | brigham | sure |
| 06:22.53 | mheath | c? |
| 06:22.54 | fishyfire | c? |
| 06:22.54 | brigham | c is the lowest level language commonly in use, and one of the most versatile |
| 06:23.04 | fishyfire | lol? |
| 06:23.12 | Maquis | mheath: you don't have to say brigham at the beginning to teach him something |
| 06:23.22 | Maquis | who is on first |
| 06:23.25 | Maquis | who? |
| 06:23.25 | brigham | who is on first |
| 06:23.38 | fishyfire | what is on second |
| 06:23.41 | mheath | perl? |
| 06:23.42 | brigham | perl is /perl/ [Practical Extraction and Report Language, a.k.a Pathologically Eclectic Rubbish Lister] n. An interpreted language developed by Larry Wall (lwall@jpl.nasa.gov, author of `patch(1)' and `rn(1)') and distributed over USENET. Superficially resembles `awk(1)', but is much See: Perl2 |
| 06:23.57 | mheath | THANK YOU |
| 06:24.06 | fishyfire | boggle? |
| 06:24.09 | mheath | an accurate, sane definition of perl! |
| 06:25.39 | linuxalien | You mean it's not a toaster? |
| 06:25.47 | mheath | Haha. |
| 06:26.12 | mheath | I've known people who have, for example, coded `cdrecord` frontends in perl. |
| 06:28.54 | linuxalien | Hey, at least they didn't program A cdrecorder in perl. :P |
| 06:29.22 | Maquis | mheath: when all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a thumb... er... nail :) |
| 06:32.13 | findlay | there's nothing wrong with writing anything that can be written in perl in perl |
| 06:32.26 | findlay | perl is one of the most versatile languages known to man |
| 06:32.45 | findlay | partly because of the vast collection of perl modules |
| 06:36.31 | mheath | fishyfire: out of curiosity, what do you look for in a distro? |
| 06:36.49 | mheath | Whats missing from Fedora and Mandrake that make you wnat to look for other distros? |
| 06:41.07 | fishyfire | nothing in particular is missing... i just like to play around with different things |
| 06:41.19 | Maquis | debian? |
| 06:41.20 | brigham | debian is very solid |
| 06:41.39 | fishyfire | debian didn't support my usb mouse |
| 06:41.43 | fishyfire | debian? |
| 06:41.43 | brigham | debian is very solid |
| 06:42.07 | Maquis | gentoo? |
| 06:42.07 | brigham | gentoo is the best distro |
| 06:42.43 | fishyfire | does that kind of answer your question? |
| 06:42.50 | linuxalien | I use Gentoo. Don't ask me how. I'm not that bright. |
| 06:43.47 | mheath | brigham: forget gentoo |
| 06:43.47 | brigham | sure |
| 06:43.55 | mheath | brigham: gentoo is a special flavor of Linux that can be automatically optimized and customized for just about any application or need. Extreme configurability, performance and a top-notch user and developer community are all hallmarks of the Gentoo experience. |
| 06:43.55 | brigham | but gentoo is <reply>Two-pane filemanager using GTK+, 100% GUI configurable. URL: http://www.obsession.se/gentoo/ |
| 06:44.04 | mheath | brigham: forget gentoo |
| 06:44.16 | Maquis | no, gentoo is the best distro |
| 06:44.20 | mheath | gentoo? |
| 06:44.20 | brigham | gentoo is the best distro |
| 06:44.37 | mheath | brigham: no, gentoo is a special flavor of Linux that can be automatically optimized and customized for just about any application or need. Extreme configurability, performance and a top-notch user and developer community are all hallmarks of the Gentoo experience. |
| 06:44.38 | brigham | can do! |
| 06:44.41 | mheath | gentoo? |
| 06:44.41 | brigham | gentoo is a special flavor of Linux that can be automatically optimized and customized for just about any application or need. Extreme configurability, performance and a top-notch user and developer community are all hallmarks of the Gentoo experience. |
| 06:45.23 | mheath | Anyone here happen to be a car nut? |
| 06:45.38 | fishyfire | what's wrong with your car? |
| 06:46.10 | mheath | Nothing. Wanted to ask someone what the average sale price would be for a particular car |
| 06:46.20 | mheath | My dad wants one. Trying to see if thats feasible. |
| 06:46.34 | fishyfire | kelly blue book |
| 06:46.46 | fishyfire | used or new? |
| 06:46.59 | fishyfire | you could search online and see what they seem to be going for |
| 06:47.06 | mheath | fishyfire: it was made in the early 60's. Kelly blue book doesn't have those :) |
| 06:47.32 | mheath | And its rare enough that the only online sales offers say "Call for price." |
| 06:47.39 | fishyfire | hmm |
| 06:47.44 | fishyfire | i was thinking more of a common car |
| 06:47.45 | fishyfire | sorry |
| 06:48.10 | mheath | Porsche 904... |
| 06:48.55 | Maquis | mmmmm... porsche... |
| 06:50.06 | mheath | The engine in these things...the way their engineered, the way they're made...its a work of art. |
| 06:50.19 | mheath | Its not just an engineering job. It's a work of art. |
| 06:50.23 | Maquis | carerra 4 |
| 06:50.47 | mheath | http://www.the904store.com/906-0xxA.jpg |
| 06:50.53 | mheath | The 904's are pretty good looking, too. |
| 06:51.29 | Maquis | so are the carerras... :) |
| 06:52.32 | mheath | I'd love to get one of these things for my dad, for his 60th birthday (coming up in july), but I doubt theres any way I could do that |
| 06:53.34 | mheath | Even a junker. He's a good mechanic....He's always saying he dreams about finding one of these in some old widow's garage, who's kept it since her husbands past away, unaware of how much it's worth...Restore it..etc. |
| 07:03.04 | hans | /away |
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| 07:06.19 | linuxalien | mheath: I know someone that got a nice one on Ebay and fixed it up a bit. |
| 07:07.26 | mheath | A nice Porsche 904? |
| 07:08.32 | linuxalien | Hmmm I can't remember what model, but they sell all kinds of sports cars on there. The guy from iD software sold his Ferrari on there. |
| 07:08.32 | mheath | AGH! |
| 07:08.51 | mheath | linuxalien: doubt it was a 904. Porsche 904's are *REALLY* rare. Only 100 in existance. |
| 07:09.03 | mheath | And I just found out they're much more expensive than I thought. |
| 07:09.56 | mheath | A spare *body* for one of them...Just the body...and it's selling for $48,000. |
| 07:10.13 | linuxalien | mheath: Wow. That's pretty darn expensive. |
| 07:33.57 | mheath | One sold at an auction recently for $253,000....... |
| 07:34.34 | mheath | I found a company that makes replicas for about $80,000, but they've got the wrong kind of engine in them. |
| 07:34.40 | linuxalien | Man...I'm in the wrong business. I should rebuild porches. |
| 08:04.30 | Newsome | Porsches. Porches won't get you those kinds of prices. |
| 08:05.55 | linuxalien | P-51 Mustangs? |
| 08:11.43 | linuxalien | night |
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| 16:01.54 | levi-treo | Good morning. |
| 16:16.31 | Maquis | gmonin |
| 16:16.35 | Maquis | gmornin |
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| 16:42.39 | Maquis | our heater closet smells strongly of gas again... |
| 16:46.02 | levi-treo | That doesn't sound good. |
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| 17:35.18 | xbmodder | That sounds bad |
| 17:35.40 | xbmodder | is this unhealthy for a 14yr old teen: sleep at 3:30 wake up at 9:10 |
| 17:38.56 | xbmodder | where is everyone? |
| 17:42.07 | asynic | it's sunday |
| 17:42.11 | asynic | everyone is asleep or at church :P |
| 17:45.45 | mheath | xbmodder: yes, it is unhealthy.. |
| 17:45.49 | mheath | Is it normal? Yes. |
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| 19:13.08 | xbmodder | hey! |
| 19:13.10 | xbmodder | wasup! |
| 19:13.57 | xbmodder | what is a good nice lightweight webserver? |
| 19:14.09 | xbmodder | one that i can deploy in a couple minutes |
| 19:14.12 | xbmodder | and has CGI |
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| 20:15.31 | xbmodder | anyone? |
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| 20:36.21 | LeviHome | Something lighter/easier than apache? |
| 20:36.29 | xbmodder | yeah |
| 20:36.36 | xbmodder | lighter |
| 20:38.48 | LeviHome | I'm not sure what features these have, but you might want to check them out: boa, fnord, mathopd, micro-hhtpd, or thy |
| 20:39.06 | xbmodder | thanks |
| 20:50.06 | LeviHome | mheath: Done anything interesting with any of your projects lately? |
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| 21:17.37 | xbmodder | ping! |
| 21:21.10 | LeviHome | eh? |
| 21:21.18 | Maquis | |lart life this week |
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| 23:21.34 | xbmodder | hey wasup amcnabb |
| 23:22.32 | xbmodder | ~lart Maquis |
| 23:22.44 | xbmodder | ~praise life outside of school this week |
| 23:22.46 | ibot | All hail life outside of school this week! |
| 23:22.49 | xbmodder | :) |
| 23:23.00 | tene | ~lart ibot |
| 23:23.06 | tene | |lart brigham |
| 23:23.19 | tene | ... ouch. Haven't seen that one before. |
| 23:29.52 | xbmodder | that sucks |
| 23:30.34 | tene | so now I'm wondering if there's any way at all to get audio input or output using a modem. |
| 23:30.39 | tene | just because that would be interesting. |
| 23:31.05 | xbmodder | yeah |
| 23:31.14 | xbmodder | i would like to do that too... |
| 23:31.31 | xbmodder | something at activating the piezo circuitr |
| 23:31.32 | xbmodder | y |
| 23:43.30 | xbmodder | ~xbmodder |
| 23:43.31 | ibot | from memory, xbmodder is a world record setting 14 year old great guy who lives in paradise |
| 23:44.36 | LeviHome | Heh. |
| 23:45.24 | xbmodder | :) |
| 23:45.32 | LeviHome | ~levi |
| 23:45.54 | xbmodder | hahah |
| 23:46.04 | xbmodder | ibot, levihome is levi at hom |
| 23:46.05 | ibot | okay, xbmodder |
| 23:46.05 | LeviHome | Heh. Used to know something about me. |
| 23:46.05 | xbmodder | ibot, levihome is levi at home |
| 23:46.06 | ibot | ...but levihome is already something else... |
| 23:46.11 | xbmodder | ibot, no levihome is levi at home |
| 23:46.12 | ibot | xbmodder: okay |
| 23:46.16 | xbmodder | ~levihome |
| 23:46.17 | ibot | hmm... levihome is levi at home |
| 23:46.22 | LeviHome | ~Levi |
| 23:46.23 | xbmodder | haha |
| 23:46.29 | xbmodder | ~levi2.0 |
| 23:46.30 | LeviHome | Stupid bot. |
| 23:46.33 | xbmodder | haha |
| 23:46.44 | xbmodder | i see you respond to ~levi2.0 |
| 23:47.00 | xbmodder | that what does that make you version 1.0? |
| 23:50.40 | LeviHome | I'm the only version there is. |
| 23:55.30 | Maquis | ~me |
| 23:55.31 | ibot | you are probably Maquis. Lart Happy |
| 23:55.42 | Maquis | ~you |
| 23:55.43 | ibot | i'm a broken bot |
| 23:56.27 | xbmodder | ~maquis |
| 23:56.28 | ibot | rumour has it, maquis is Maquis. Lart Happy |
| 23:56.38 | xbmodder | ~define lart |
| 23:56.41 | Maquis | maquis? |
| 23:56.41 | brigham | maquis is a budding Linux wizard facing distinct challenges on the path to becoming a grey beard. |
| 23:56.49 | xbmodder | WTF? |
| 23:56.49 | brigham | WTF is what the flip |
