| 00:00.59 | indessed | has anyone here ever used lircd before? |
| 00:01.26 | Maquis | nope... |
| 00:01.36 | xbmodder | indessed, what remote do you have? |
| 00:02.18 | indessed | i have a ira-3 serial device |
| 00:02.37 | indessed | irrecord works and i can record signals from my remote |
| 00:02.55 | indessed | but after I copy the config file to /dev/lircd.conf and start lircd, it still doesn't work |
| 00:03.09 | indessed | (i.e. ]# cat /dev/lircd |
| 00:03.09 | indessed | cat: /dev/lircd: No such device or address) |
| 00:03.50 | indessed | I'm not sure if I'm supposed to load some kernel module, but I figure if irrecord works, why would I need a kernel module for lircd? |
| 00:05.01 | sjansen | http://test.plug.org/preview/bric/reviews/2005/01/07/xslt/ |
| 00:05.09 | sjansen | Making good progress with bricolage. |
| 00:06.03 | Maquis | left column looks really colorless/lifeless... |
| 00:06.11 | Maquis | (sorry to be so critical) |
| 00:06.14 | xbmodder | thats cool |
| 00:06.15 | xbmodder | :) |
| 00:06.39 | sjansen | Now that I've got the basic feel of the site, I'm working on roughing out the bric configuration. |
| 00:06.53 | sjansen | Once I've got that, I'll go back and finish the stylesheet. |
| 00:07.04 | sjansen | Then I'll put the finishing touches on bric. |
| 00:07.11 | sjansen | Then I'll rule the WORLD! |
| 00:08.30 | xbmodder | sjansen, then i will assassinate you. After i assassinate you i will take rule. be overthrown by Maquis' ~lart powers and the world will crumble. The geeky followers of maquis will move to mars and produce a planet of geek |
| 00:09.17 | Maquis | i get to win? cool!!!!! |
| 00:09.23 | sjansen | The new Plug site is so going to r001Z! |
| 00:11.15 | xbmodder | hahaha |
| 00:12.25 | tene | r001Z the world? |
| 00:12.28 | tene | or mars? |
| 00:12.43 | xbmodder | tene, neither |
| 00:12.51 | xbmodder | the sun... you get to rule the sun |
| 00:12.56 | sjansen | all of them! everything! |
| 00:13.04 | xbmodder | no... |
| 00:14.14 | sjansen | But enough for today. I've still got alot of other things to do. |
| 00:14.16 | xbmodder | after you take over the sun you take earth hostage and say hand-over earth or else you will engulf it and make it to hot... this happens as maquis is taking control of the earth. you making sun expand is the reason that the earth expands |
| 00:14.19 | Maquis | sjansen: in your dreams, maybe |
| 00:14.44 | xbmodder | s/earth expands/earth crumbles. |
| 00:18.05 | xbmodder | i love blowing the stereo system to maximum capacity |
| 00:18.32 | xbmodder | tene, lalala |
| 00:18.36 | xbmodder | Maquis, hey |
| 00:19.01 | Maquis | what? |
| 00:19.28 | xbmodder | wasup |
| 00:19.35 | xbmodder | hows your room mate? |
| 00:19.38 | Maquis | fine |
| 00:19.41 | Maquis | school's up |
| 00:19.51 | xbmodder | that sucks... |
| 00:19.54 | xbmodder | thats good |
| 00:21.09 | xbmodder | there are only two problems with gmail: |
| 00:21.18 | xbmodder | it does not have folders |
| 00:21.30 | xbmodder | and you can't export contacts (contacts suck |
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| 00:25.25 | Maquis | hi Newsome :) |
| 00:25.27 | Maquis | how are you? |
| 00:25.30 | Newsome | okay |
| 00:25.53 | xbmodder | Newsome, hey |
| 00:25.59 | xbmodder | wasup? |
| 00:26.39 | Newsome | oh, just doing some scanning |
| 00:27.03 | Maquis | cool :) |
| 00:27.25 | Maquis | what kind of scanning? |
| 00:27.37 | xbmodder | port scanning? |
| 00:27.43 | xbmodder | document scanning? |
| 00:27.59 | Newsome | I picked up 300 or so pages up at the courthouse yesterday, so I'm scanning them in now. |
| 00:28.22 | Newsome | Last night's contribution - http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20050129060736295 |
| 00:28.42 | xbmodder | Newsome, ouch |
| 00:29.42 | Maquis | sweet!!!!!!!!! |
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| 00:32.06 | Maquis | ummm... who's PointServe? |
| 00:32.19 | Maquis | oh |
| 00:32.20 | Maquis | nm |
| 00:32.22 | Maquis | i found it |
| 00:32.27 | xbmodder | where did you see pointserve? |
| 00:33.22 | Newsome | That's who the Subpoena was served on |
| 00:34.23 | Maquis | so, the reason they want to subpoena pointserve is just because darl mcbride was formerly the head? |
| 00:34.33 | Maquis | and mike anderer is on the board? |
| 00:34.36 | Maquis | or is there something else? |
| 00:35.42 | Newsome | No, because Pointserve allegedly did a code comparison between Linux and UNIX |
| 00:36.14 | Newsome | They're the people Darl was bragging about as the "MIT Rocket Scientists" |
| 00:36.34 | Maquis | i take it they did this comparison for sco? |
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| 00:37.55 | Newsome | apparently |
| 00:38.03 | Maquis | Newsome: are they trying to prove that pointserve did not do a fair comparison? |
| 00:38.49 | Newsome | They're trying to find out exactly _what_ Pointserve did. If they _did_ a fair comparison, nobody has ever seen it. |
| 00:39.27 | Newsome | If it showed evidence of copying (very doubtful), the whole world would like to know. |
| 00:39.30 | Maquis | oh... |
| 00:39.43 | Maquis | os pointserve did a comparison, but it hasn't been released at all? |
| 00:40.32 | Newsome | If it showed there was _no_ copying (pretty likely) or the copying was legal, then either Darl or Pointserve were lying every time they talked about it. |
| 00:41.52 | Maquis | mmmk |
| 00:42.10 | Maquis | when is the subpoena going to be served? |
| 00:42.31 | Newsome | It was already served (that's the proof of service) |
| 00:43.40 | Maquis | when does pointserve have to show the documents by? |
| 00:44.12 | Maquis | and exactly how did we manage to get this far into the case without pointserve being forced to show their analysis? |
| 00:44.56 | Newsome | SCO never told _who_ did their analysis. |
| 00:45.03 | Maquis | ok |
| 00:45.05 | Maquis | and, umm... |
| 00:45.10 | Newsome | IBM's been asking since the beginning for the who |
| 00:45.14 | Newsome | and to see the analysis |
| 00:45.15 | goozbach | ~lart whoever scheduled this event |
| 00:45.35 | Maquis | is it ok for this analysis to have been done by a company that darl used to be the head of, and which his friend is now in the head of? |
| 00:45.47 | Maquis | shouldn't it have been done by some unbiased party? |
| 00:45.50 | Maquis | goozbach: ??? |
| 00:46.17 | goozbach | nobody here and an event is running as wall |
| 00:46.24 | goozbach | well |
| 00:46.40 | Maquis | ?? |
| 00:46.42 | Newsome | Well, anyone can do the analysis. It's just about who will be more believable to a jury. |
| 00:47.11 | Maquis | if i was the jury, i'd look at those facts and tell them that i'm not listening until they get an unbiased analysis |
| 00:47.11 | Newsome | IBM got people like Brian Kernighan and Randall Davis of MIT. SCO got their buddies. |
| 00:47.24 | goozbach | ~date |
| 00:47.25 | ibot | Sun Jan 30 00:47:25 2005 |
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| 00:47.25 | Maquis | granted, if i was the jury, i'd have to clone myself a few times... |
| 00:48.03 | Maquis | Newsome: who are the people that ibm got? isn't kernighan one of the creators of C? |
| 00:48.09 | goozbach | ohh today's sunday? |
| 00:48.10 | Maquis | (or is that someone else with a similar name?) |
| 00:48.20 | Maquis | goozbach: today is tomorrow... |
| 00:48.22 | Maquis | didn't you know that? |
| 00:48.25 | goozbach | that explains a lot |
| 00:48.36 | Maquis | it's also shortly after midnight |
| 00:48.53 | Newsome | Yep, that's Brian Kernighan. |
| 00:49.19 | Maquis | Newsome: who's the other guy? Randall Davis? |
| 00:49.19 | Newsome | and Randall Davis - http://people.csail.mit.edu/people/davis/davis.htm |
| 00:49.19 | goozbach | q |
| 00:49.48 | Maquis | Newsome: do they have any connections with ibm? |
| 00:50.04 | Maquis | goozbach: i'm glad to see i'm not the only one that gets confused :) |
| 00:50.13 | Newsome | He's Director of Research at MIT's Computer Science and Artificial Intelligence Lab |
| 00:50.36 | Maquis | yeah... i see that... |
| 00:50.46 | Maquis | but it doesn't say anything about connections with IBM... |
| 00:50.52 | Newsome | I don't know if they have any connections, but IBM is paying them handsomely to be Expert Witnesses. |
| 00:51.16 | Mecworks | goozbach uses dialup? |
| 00:51.22 | Mecworks | ouch |
| 00:51.27 | spr | goozbach must be on his treo |
| 00:51.27 | Maquis | Mecworks: i'm guessing that he's on his treo |
| 00:51.33 | goozbach | im on my treo |
| 00:51.38 | Mecworks | ic |
| 00:51.46 | Maquis | spr: howdy :) |
| 00:51.47 | spr | ~lart guru treo people |
| 00:52.20 | Newsome | well, off to dinner. Later, all. |
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| 01:59.28 | Maquis | AAARRRRRGGGGGHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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| 03:22.20 | girl-22 | anyone from Provo there?? |
| 03:23.06 | mheath | girl-22: I believe many people in the channel are from provo, though apparently none are active at the moment :) |
| 03:23.51 | girl-22 | yeah |
| 03:25.37 | mheath | girl-22: please don't private message me asking me questions that could just as easily be asked in the channel, especially questions I just barely answered. |
| 03:25.41 | mheath | I'm from Ogden. |
| 03:25.57 | girl-22 | ok sr |
| 03:26.48 | mheath | No problem. |
| 03:27.13 | girl-22 | i just though that here was "chat room" |
| 03:28.32 | mheath | girl-22: indeed it is. |
| 03:46.16 | Maquis | girl-22: sup? |
| 03:46.54 | Maquis | girl-22: this is a chat room focused toward discussing Linux and Open Source Software. |
| 03:48.18 | Maquis | girl-22: if you're interested in discussing Linux and OSS, you are welcome to be here... |
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| 04:08.38 | fozz | girl-22! |
| 04:08.48 | fozz | girl-22! Do not be afraid of our geekitude! |
| 04:09.14 | girl-22 | i'm not |
| 04:09.17 | fozz | ;-) |
| 04:10.58 | girl-22 | Maquis told me that the pp here r focused in computers. i'm from italy, i didnt kwon this chatroom at all |
| 04:12.07 | mheath | girl-22: then why are you in #Utah, asking if anyones from utah, if I may ask? :) |
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| 04:13.11 | findlay | |lart Maquis |
| 04:13.26 | girl-22 | i promised to a friend from SLC to chat with him in a chatroom named Utah. |
| 04:13.31 | findlay | ~lart Maquis |
| 04:13.58 | findlay | girl-22: I'll chat with you in a channel named Utah |
| 04:14.03 | findlay | (: |
| 04:14.29 | Maquis | |lart findlay |
| 04:14.48 | findlay | girl-22: who are you looking for? |
| 04:15.01 | findlay | Maquis: brigham aint here |
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| 04:16.02 | findlay | |lart Maquis |
| 04:16.05 | Maquis | |lart findlay |
| 04:16.15 | Maquis | |lart findlay |
| 04:16.56 | Maquis | girl-22: if you can tell us who you're looking for, we can tell you if it's someone we've seen here in the pas |
| 04:16.59 | Maquis | t |
| 04:18.22 | girl-22 | hes name is Andreas |
| 04:18.44 | girl-22 | his name, sorry, my english is terrible :) |
| 04:19.02 | findlay | girl-22: did he tell you what his nick was? |
| 04:19.39 | girl-22 | no, he just told me for i look for his name |
| 04:20.03 | findlay | Andreas |
| 04:20.10 | girl-22 | yes |
| 04:20.58 | findlay | did he say the server was freenode.net? |
| 04:21.33 | girl-22 | yeah, i already chat with him by this server |
| 04:24.56 | findlay | http://searchirc.com/whois/Andreas |
| 04:25.27 | girl-22 | u must be busy, thanks for the help. i'm going to msn while he doenst came up |
| 04:26.22 | girl-22 | come up ( bad english again) :) |
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| 04:36.04 | findlay | ~/. |
| 04:36.05 | ibot | it has been said that slashdot is http://slashdot.org, or they're so lame they had to interview unknown_lamer for more content |
| 04:36.13 | findlay | ~slashdot |
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| 04:55.08 | mheath | Hahaha, that's ironic |
| 04:55.36 | Maquis | howdy stuporglue |
| 04:55.42 | stuporglue | How's it going |
| 04:55.43 | mheath | I wonder if they planned that. Writing a slashdot article about robotic guide dogs on the anniversary of the first seeing-eye dog training center in America |
| 04:58.22 | stuporglue | I got a Netgear WG111U tonight, online it says it's got the "Atheros" chipset |
| 04:58.41 | stuporglue | Is that going to be bad? |
| 05:00.01 | Maquis | stuporglue: you tried googling for atheros and linux?? does it say to use ndiswrapper or anything in particular? |
| 05:00.19 | stuporglue | I've been searching for about 30 minutes |
| 05:00.55 | stuporglue | The things a USB wireless adapter that came out in December (!)...so there's not a ton about it |
| 05:01.34 | stuporglue | MadWifi talks about Atheros drivers, but all the pages say "Cardbus, PCI, or miniPCI" |
| 05:01.43 | Maquis | hmmmm... |
| 05:01.46 | Maquis | i dunno |
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| 05:26.33 | wps | what is the difference between P4, Xeon, and Opteron? (for a web server) |
| 05:27.47 | wps | there are too many options |
| 05:28.08 | wps | I am trying to price a server |
| 05:28.36 | tensai | Opteron is an AMD. Xeons are a beefy Pentium. They've had p3 and p4 versions of them. |
| 05:28.55 | findlay | 32 or 64? |
| 05:28.55 | tensai | supposed to do better at floating point calculations iirc (the xeon) |
| 05:29.00 | tensai | all are 32 |
| 05:29.21 | findlay | there's no 64 Xeon? |
| 05:29.22 | tensai | I think. I'm no expert. just trying to remember what I've heard. |
| 05:29.54 | findlay | Opterons come in 64 bit, not sure about 32 bit |
| 05:31.02 | wps | any purchased a server recently? |
| 05:31.20 | tensai | yup, my bad. opterons are 64. |
| 05:31.39 | wps | would you recommend building one? purchasing one? big names, like Dell? or small shops? |
| 05:33.06 | tensai | looks like xeons do come in 64 bit now |
| 05:34.06 | wps | looks like I could get one for less than 1K |
| 05:35.44 | tensai | personally I wouldn't bother with 64 bit unless I knew I needed it. more expensive, more incompatabilities and just being 64 bit doesn't guarantee it's faster. |
| 05:35.54 | wps | I shouldn't need it |
| 05:36.06 | wps | so is there much performance difference between them, for a web server? |
| 05:36.21 | wps | just need a quick web server (mail, web, database) |
| 05:36.40 | tensai | you might ask sjansen. he's got an amd 64 something |
| 05:37.32 | tensai | we've got dual proc p3 gigahertz class machines with seagate cheatah drives and oodles of ram. they're plenty snappy. |
| 05:43.57 | findlay | where I used to work, we had 2 dual P4 machines with HT and a gig of ram each |
| 05:45.02 | wps | why do you think that they call this "barebones"? does it not come with hard drives? |
| 05:45.05 | wps | http://www.serversdirect.com/product.asp?pf_id=6023P%2D8B&dept_id=04-002 |
| 05:47.04 | tensai | looks like a case, power supply and a mobo |
| 05:48.29 | wps | ah, that makes more sense |
| 05:48.37 | wps | hence the "supports..." wording throughout |
| 06:02.44 | wps | how much benefit would you see with dual processors for a web server? |
| 06:04.12 | fozz | Depends on how much dynamic stuff you're doing on the server. |
| 06:04.41 | fozz | If you're just serving up static content, then RAM and storage speed is going to be more important. |
| 06:05.05 | fozz | But if you're serving a lot of dynamic content, then faster processors and multiple processors make a big difference. |
| 06:05.33 | tensai | even for static you'll still see improvement. depends a lot on how much traffic you get. |
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| 06:07.18 | tensai | as fozz said, unless you're doing some heavy thinking serving, web pages is pretty light duty |
| 06:07.44 | tensai | s/thinking serving,/thinking, serving/ |
| 06:09.35 | wps | I can get a Dell, single proc Xeon, 2.8 GHz, 1MB Cache, 80 GB HD for $900 |
| 06:09.40 | wps | that's the best deal that I have found |
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| 06:32.23 | girl-22 | hi andreas, finaly, come sta? |
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| 06:37.11 | brailsmt | anyone know what this error means? |
| 06:37.14 | brailsmt | deferral: Sorry,_I_wasn't_able_to_establish_an_SMTP_connection._(#4.4.1)/ |
| 06:37.27 | brailsmt | in my /var/log/qmail/qmail-send/current log |
| 06:38.28 | andreas_ | Girl!!! |
| 06:38.34 | andreas_ | hi |
| 06:38.40 | girl-22 | finaly man |
| 06:39.14 | tensai | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:39.14 | girl-22 | why did u take so long? |
| 06:39.15 | tensai | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:39.15 | tensai | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:39.15 | tensai | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:39.15 | tensai | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:39.50 | tensai | brailsmt: the 4. prefix means it's temporary and may succeed in the future |
| 06:40.10 | tensai | doesn't make much sense, but that's what 4.4.1 means |
| 06:40.32 | andreas_ | sorry |
| 06:40.44 | andreas_ | i was busy, i was eating :P |
| 06:40.49 | girl-22 | ah ok |
| 06:41.07 | girl-22 | :) |
| 06:41.23 | girl-22 | let's to private room |
| 06:41.28 | girl-22 | its bette |
| 06:41.29 | girl-22 | r |
| 06:41.31 | wps | I am surprised that non of the Dell servers that I have looked at have hot-swappable disk drive bays. For those of you that manage servers, how important of a feature do you feel this is? |
| 06:41.49 | andreas_ | sure |
| 06:41.52 | andreas_ | letīs go |
| 06:43.10 | tensai | it's really handy but overkill in some cases. for our file servers that's what we do. |
| 06:43.47 | tensai | for our web servers that are basically commodity, there's no point. we run raid 1 so we can tolerate a loss and schedule an outage at our convenience. |
| 06:48.04 | tensai | ~lart to be continued |
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| 07:19.52 | findlay | ~lart Manti Telecom |
| 07:20.44 | brailsmt_ | how do I see what ports are listening on my machine? |
| 07:23.48 | goozbach | netstat |
| 07:24.19 | goozbach | wps: I just picked up a dell 1U server It seems well put together |
| 07:24.31 | wps | I am about to buy one. |
| 07:24.37 | wps | thanks for the comment |
| 07:24.38 | wps | which model? |
| 07:24.39 | brigham | which model are you considering? |
| 07:25.03 | wps | looking at the PowerEdge 750 or SC 1425 new |
| 07:25.09 | goozbach | the poweredge 750 p4 2.8 256M ram 160GB HD for ~$700 |
| 07:25.09 | wps | or perhaps others referbished |
| 07:25.16 | wps | exactly, goozbach |
| 07:25.17 | goozbach | that was a couple weeks ago |
| 07:25.35 | goozbach | buy your ram elsewhere, it's cheaper |
| 07:25.58 | brailsmt_ | goozbach: which of those number is the port? |
| 07:26.56 | goozbach | brailsmt_: netstat -taupe and you'll see the address:port pairs |
| 07:28.18 | goozbach | it should have the column headers as well |
| 07:28.28 | goozbach | so pipe the output to head or less |
| 07:32.24 | brailsmt_ | goozbach: thx, a --numeric-ports helped too |
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| 07:43.31 | findlay | machines can listen? |
| 07:43.50 | goozbach | findlay: that's what the output of netstat says |
| 07:44.00 | goozbach | tcp 0 0 *:32769 *:* LISTEN rpcuser 6674 2513/rpc.statd |
| 07:44.08 | findlay | wow |
| 07:44.43 | findlay | maybe you should patent that. It could make you a lot of money |
| 07:47.27 | xbmodder | findlay probably :) |
| 07:47.53 | xbmodder | ok here is the #utah list i have made so far: |
| 07:48.08 | xbmodder | findlay=channel clown (he can cheer up anyone) |
| 07:48.15 | xbmodder | xbmodder=insane teen |
| 07:48.35 | xbmodder | brigham=annoying bot |
| 07:48.40 | xbmodder | ibot=cool bot |
| 07:49.26 | xbmodder | Maquis=#utah's girl :) yin-yang.... |
| 07:49.38 | Maquis | brigham is *not* annoying |
| 07:49.55 | xbmodder | sjansen=guy who is usually cool. but is really big on channel policy |
| 07:50.35 | xbmodder | |for i in {maquis,brigham}; do |lart $i;done |
| 07:50.43 | xbmodder | |lart Bradipo |
| 07:50.45 | xbmodder | |lart brigham |
| 07:50.54 | goozbach | hah |
| 07:51.01 | xbmodder | see he does not even have self-larting powers |
| 07:51.04 | goozbach | fooled by the "annoying bot" |
| 07:51.04 | xbmodder | |lart Maquis |
| 07:51.29 | xbmodder | Maquis, the bot you supports attacks you... |
| 07:52.01 | Maquis | brigham likes me |
| 07:52.22 | xbmodder | |maquis |
| 07:52.24 | xbmodder | ~maquis |
| 07:52.25 | ibot | rumour has it, maquis is Maquis. Lart Happy |
| 07:52.38 | xbmodder | brigham, does not even know you... |
| 07:52.46 | xbmodder | you are sad sometimes |
| 07:53.07 | Maquis | maquis? |
| 07:53.07 | brigham | maquis is a budding Linux wizard facing distinct challenges on the path to becoming a grey beard. |
| 07:53.13 | Maquis | brigham knows me |
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| 07:55.34 | xbmodder | !weather 94566 |
| 07:55.42 | xbmodder | brb |
| 07:59.34 | Maquis | brigham? |
| 07:59.34 | brigham | brigham is the Lion of the Lord |
| 08:04.33 | xbmodder | !google gentoo |
| 08:05.16 | xbmodder | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:06.12 | xbmodder | ! google gentoo |
| 08:06.28 | xbmodder | crud it... i forgot how to use my own bo |
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| 08:07.30 | xbmodder | !google gentoo |
| 08:07.35 | xbmodder | ! google gentoo |
| 08:07.37 | xbmodder | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:07.49 | xbmodder | !email xbmodder@gmail.com hey |
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| 08:09.32 | xbmodder | !hey |
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| 08:10.08 | xbmodder | !hey |
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| 08:14.29 | xbmodder | !hey |
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| 08:15.54 | xbmodder | !hey |
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| 10:55.42 | bonez39 | anyone around? |
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| 16:56.52 | emcnabb-treo | IRC in church is great |
| 16:57.40 | emcnabb-treo | ok, I need to pay attention |
| 16:57.43 | emcnabb-treo | later |
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| 17:16.51 | goozbach | I thought I was the only one who did that |
| 18:19.10 | Maquis | |lart all you guys |
| 18:23.56 | erj | hehe |
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| 18:27.18 | levi-treo | Yo |
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| 19:20.59 | xbmodder | hey |
| 19:21.04 | xbmodder | anyone here? |
| 19:23.54 | emcnabb | kind of |
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| 19:29.45 | xbmodder-treo | hey |
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| 21:19.19 | emcnabb | ubuntu is now running on my old iMac |
| 21:19.23 | xbmodder_lappy | cool |
| 21:20.40 | xbmodder_lappy | emcnabb, does gentoo work on it... |
| 21:20.44 | xbmodder_lappy | well... |
| 21:21.21 | emcnabb | too little RAM |
| 21:21.31 | xbmodder_lappy | how much? |
| 21:21.40 | emcnabb | 64 MB |
| 21:22.02 | xbmodder_lappy | thats barely anything |
| 21:22.08 | xbmodder_lappy | how old is this thing? |
| 21:22.16 | emcnabb | 4 years old |
| 21:23.01 | emcnabb | I got it for free, so I can't complain much |
| 21:23.12 | xbmodder_lappy | lucky! |
| 21:23.28 | xbmodder_lappy | is'nt there a LUG meeting today? |
| 21:23.44 | Maquis | emcnabb: is it one of the first imacs made? (back when they only had blueberry)? |
| 21:23.46 | xbmodder_lappy | or a PLUG |
| 21:23.51 | Maquis | xbmodder_lappy: no |
| 21:23.58 | emcnabb | it is a blueberry |
| 21:24.00 | Maquis | not here, at least |
| 21:24.08 | Maquis | i had one of those! |
| 21:24.14 | xbmodder_lappy | i hate macs |
| 21:24.17 | emcnabb | but there were several colors when this one came out |
| 21:24.20 | Maquis | that's what replaced my IIci |
| 21:24.24 | emcnabb | xbmodder, I like them |
| 21:24.31 | Maquis | oh... that's a slightly newer model than mine thoguh |
| 21:24.32 | emcnabb | I used to have a MacII |
| 21:24.36 | xbmodder_lappy | emcnabb, i am not xbmodder |
| 21:24.37 | emcnabb | great machine |
| 21:25.01 | Maquis | our first ocmputer was a mac classic that we got when i was 3 |
| 21:25.05 | Maquis | and then the IIci |
| 21:25.21 | Maquis | and then a powermac... (my dad had a laptop someplace around this time too) |
| 21:25.33 | Maquis | and then i got an imac... |
| 21:25.38 | Maquis | and my parents got a g4cube |
| 21:25.48 | xbmodder_lappy | i want a cell processor machine |
| 21:25.51 | Maquis | and my mom has an ibook, my dad has a titanium :) |
| 21:26.11 | xbmodder_lappy | that runs at 9.6 GHz 8 cells |
| 21:26.13 | Maquis | i miss my IIci! |
| 21:26.45 | xbmodder_lappy | i don't |
| 21:27.39 | xbmodder_lappy | my sister has an ibook... when i look at it i usually wanna grab a baseball bat and whack that thing 5+ time |
| 21:27.41 | xbmodder_lappy | times |
| 21:28.42 | emcnabb | you do that |
| 21:29.14 | xbmodder_lappy | i can't |
| 21:29.23 | xbmodder_lappy | my parents/her would be angry |
| 21:30.01 | spr | We got a mini-mac at work :) |
| 21:30.22 | Maquis | is it in the office? |
| 21:30.24 | xbmodder_lappy | tho i was like typing 'rm -rf /' 3-2-BACKSPACE |
| 21:30.37 | emcnabb | after I get a Thinkpad I'm going to get a mac-mini |
| 21:30.42 | emcnabb | or mini-mac |
| 21:30.49 | emcnabb | whatever they're official name is |
| 21:30.54 | Maquis | mac mini |
| 21:31.06 | spr | I'll probably get one in the future. After I get my mythtv box |
| 21:31.26 | xbmodder_lappy | emcnabb, does redhat give you a discount on dell stuff |
| 21:31.50 | emcnabb | nope |
| 21:32.04 | emcnabb | I'd get a dell server or desktop, but not another laptop |
| 21:32.52 | xbmodder_lappy | why not... why a dell server in the first place |
| 21:33.57 | emcnabb | the dell servers I've had were pretty reliable for a good price |
| 21:34.14 | Maquis | how good of a price? |
| 21:34.19 | emcnabb | there laptop division has gone downhill (in my opinion) |
| 21:34.26 | emcnabb | goozbach just got a good deal on one |
| 21:34.29 | spr | There bottom line server is only $500 or so |
| 21:34.34 | emcnabb | I'm not sure about specifics |
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| 21:34.47 | HarleyPig | Anyone got their ears on? |
| 21:34.52 | emcnabb | yes |
| 21:34.57 | Maquis | i think they're on... |
| 21:35.04 | emcnabb | they're kind of stuck on me |
| 21:35.22 | xbmodder_lappy | how come dell has no AMD-64 |
| 21:35.30 | HarleyPig | heh. Some months ago someone posted a link to a web page that was supposed to have an image, but it was really text. |
| 21:35.36 | HarleyPig | Anyone remember details on that? |
| 21:35.44 | Maquis | was it a pic of tux? |
| 21:35.50 | Maquis | or what was it? |
| 21:35.51 | emcnabb | xbmodder_lappy, they have talked about using them |
| 21:36.23 | xbmodder_lappy | i know... but they should use optereon instead of itanium... |
| 21:36.25 | HarleyPig | No, it was deliberate. It was an img tag pointing to a script that somehow returned plain text instead. |
| 21:36.39 | xbmodder_lappy | btw: does anyone know which is better itanium/AMD64 |
| 21:36.56 | Maquis | HarleyPig: oh... ok... |
| 21:37.03 | emcnabb | so you just said that one was better than another and you have no clue about what you're tlaking about? |
| 21:37.15 | emcnabb | go research it, then make comments |
| 21:37.20 | xbmodder_lappy | $114,210 for 64GB of ram... |
| 21:37.20 | xbmodder_lappy | wow |
| 21:37.55 | xbmodder_lappy | 225 dollars for146 GB of hard drive space |
| 21:38.07 | emcnabb | well, I now have 96MB RAM in it |
| 21:38.13 | emcnabb | better than it was |
| 21:38.21 | xbmodder_lappy | $20,000 quad itanium processor |
| 21:39.13 | xbmodder_lappy | 3,000 dollars for 64-bit windows |
| 21:41.19 | xbmodder_lappy | some fag charges $622 for installing a server... |
| 21:41.30 | Maquis | xbmodder_lappy: language! |
| 21:41.31 | emcnabb | that's it? |
| 21:41.31 | xbmodder_lappy | as in delivering it. and pluging it in. |
| 21:41.54 | emcnabb | you should see how much people charge in the real world for support |
| 21:43.59 | xbmodder_lappy | Maquis, sorry! |
| 21:44.17 | xbmodder_lappy | i charge 50 dollars an hour (i usually fix one computer per hour |
| 21:45.31 | Maquis | "in 1897, Indiana State Legislature House Bill No 246 attempted to decree that henceforth, pi should have the value of '3'. The Bill was tabled indefinitely at its second reading when a mathematics professor pointed out that their powers did not quite extend to passing laws of nature." |
| 21:45.49 | xbmodder_lappy | hahaha |
| 21:45.50 | xbmodder_lappy | :) |
| 21:48.29 | xbmodder_lappy | anyone here have a mythtv? |
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| 21:53.19 | HarleyPig | Does anyone know how to calculate how much height a box would require given the text, font and width using perl? |
| 21:53.26 | HarleyPig | Does that make sense? |
| 21:53.48 | HarleyPig | errm ... for a web page |
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| 22:14.59 | xbmodder | no |
| 22:15.06 | xbmodder | it makes no sense at all |
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| 22:50.40 | findlay | ~lart Manit Telephone |
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| 23:05.11 | Maquis | ummm... |
| 23:05.33 | Maquis | Eterm is segfaulting... |
| 23:05.58 | Maquis | when i try to open a new one |
| 23:06.04 | Maquis | currently trying with strace |
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| 23:06.41 | Maquis | and i think that strace is crashing |
| 23:07.13 | tene | Maquis: strace the strace |
| 23:07.19 | tene | to see where it crashes |
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| 23:08.50 | Maquis | tene: well... it died |
| 23:09.14 | tene | then strace the strace strace |
| 23:09.19 | Maquis | it was in an infinite loop, so i killed it, and my entire computer crashed, and i had to do a hard reset |
| 23:09.35 | Maquis | (it wouldn't take input from keyboard or mouse |
| 23:09.36 | Maquis | ) |
| 23:10.23 | Maquis | it works now... |
| 23:13.23 | findlay | |lart the infinite Maquis loop |
| 23:14.01 | Maquis | disney channel! |
| 23:14.48 | goozbach | that didn't seem to be too bad of a lart |
| 23:14.56 | goozbach | it would have been had it been me |
| 23:17.45 | Maquis | given the amount of tv i watch, it could easily be 6-8 months before i'd even notice |
| 23:18.49 | findlay | haha |
| 23:19.41 | Maquis | i'm not joking |
| 23:19.52 | findlay | haha |
| 23:19.55 | Maquis | i watched a bit over christmas because my mom had it on |
| 23:20.13 | Maquis | same with thanksgiving |
| 23:20.15 | Maquis | and last summer |
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| 23:23.18 | xbmodder_lappy | goozbach, you there? |
| 23:23.22 | xbmodder_lappy | goozy |
| 23:23.27 | xbmodder_lappy | goozy woozy! |
| 23:23.33 | xbmodder_lappy | hahah |
| 23:30.01 | emcnabb | oh my gosh |
| 23:30.01 | emcnabb | I |
| 23:30.01 | findlay | you... |
| 23:30.01 | emcnabb | 've spent 6 -7 hours trying to get this USB 1.1 card working on this Ultra |
| 23:30.01 | emcnabb | and the problem was... |
| 23:30.07 | emcnabb | the card needed to be shoved in all the way |
| 23:30.16 | findlay | ~lart emcnabb |
| 23:30.23 | emcnabb | the card was made for a PC case, not a Sun case |
| 23:30.30 | emcnabb | arg |
| 23:30.34 | emcnabb | but I learned a lot in the process |
| 23:30.35 | Maquis | hahaha! i'm glad i'm not the only one who makes stupid mistakes! |
| 23:30.57 | emcnabb | the card is now abnormally mounted, but as long as it works |
| 23:31.33 | Maquis | :) |
| 23:32.57 | emcnabb | my Gentoo system is perfectly stable |
| 23:33.17 | Maquis | emcnabb: yeah... my desktop is pretty stable |
| 23:33.22 | Maquis | my laptop isn't.. |
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