| 00:00.37 | Maquis | that's way cool! |
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| 00:00.44 | Jayce^ | anybody remember kickban syntax |
| 00:00.44 | peregrine | Maquis: Thanks. |
| 00:00.50 | Jayce^ | too slow |
| 00:01.04 | Maquis | peregrine: how long have you been a guru? |
| 00:01.13 | peregrine | 1-1/2 yrs. |
| 00:01.17 | Bradipo | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:01.18 | Bradipo | ? |
| 00:01.30 | Maquis | cool! |
| 00:01.46 | Jayce^ | does it work just on the nick, was considering host also ,since he used a different nick earlier |
| 00:01.55 | *** mode/#utah [+b slag6900!*@*] by Jayce^ |
| 00:02.22 | Jayce^ | well, that nick is out |
| 00:02.35 | emcnabb | Jayce^, you are good dictator |
| 00:02.49 | Jayce^ | thank you, thank you.. |
| 00:02.54 | Maquis | ~praise Jayce^ |
| 00:02.56 | ibot | All hail Jayce^! |
| 00:03.00 | peregrine | I think one of the coolest things about that particular vacation was getting to skip a month of winter, here :). |
| 00:03.09 | goozbach | punk |
| 00:03.14 | goozbach | ~lart peregrine |
| 00:03.19 | Maquis | peregrine: you don't like snow? |
| 00:03.31 | emcnabb | ~lart peregrine |
| 00:03.32 | Maquis | hmm... |
| 00:03.37 | emcnabb | ~lart peregrine |
| 00:03.44 | peregrine | I love snow...I do not like being cold, though. |
| 00:03.45 | emcnabb | nice |
| 00:04.05 | Jayce^ | snow angels |
| 00:04.05 | sjansen | ~puttyslap peregrine |
| 00:04.09 | ibot | ACTION rolls a large, Guru blue puttybat then whacks peregrine and Maquis with it |
| 00:04.17 | emcnabb | haha |
| 00:04.21 | goozbach | AND Maquis |
| 00:04.28 | Maquis | goozbach: last year, some of the girls on my floor put on bathing suits, and played slip and slide in the snow... |
| 00:04.35 | emcnabb | ibot, who is peregrine? |
| 00:04.37 | ibot | I think you lost me on that one, emcnabb |
| 00:04.41 | Maquis | ~lart sjansen |
| 00:04.43 | sjansen | ~peregrine |
| 00:04.44 | goozbach | each lart should say ...and Maquis. |
| 00:04.51 | Jayce^ | ~lart guruboys (except sjansen) for not attending plug |
| 00:04.51 | Maquis | :( |
| 00:05.11 | Jayce^ | ~peregrine |
| 00:05.17 | emcnabb | Jayce^, how about you have some PLUG meetings in Bountiful? :-) |
| 00:05.22 | Jayce^ | hah |
| 00:05.26 | emcnabb | oh, that wouldn't be the PLUG |
| 00:05.44 | Jayce^ | ~ibot peregrine is a great fool of a Took |
| 00:05.46 | ibot | Jayce^: okay |
| 00:05.50 | peregrine | yeah, what emcnabb said, um...wait Provo LUG meetings in Bountiful? |
| 00:06.02 | Jayce^ | we're taking over |
| 00:06.04 | emcnabb | ~peregrine |
| 00:06.05 | ibot | peregrine is probably a great fool of a Took, or <action> coughs loudly |
| 00:06.05 | Jayce^ | :) |
| 00:06.42 | Maquis | ~lart peregrine for fun |
| 00:06.49 | levi | You just need a meta-lug that encapsulates the other lugs, and have occasional meta-lug meetings in different locations. |
| 00:07.05 | goozbach | the greater utah lug? |
| 00:07.12 | Jayce^ | levi, we actually looked at setting one up last year |
| 00:07.17 | goozbach | gulug.org |
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| 00:07.29 | levi | Is that like the gulags? |
| 00:07.50 | peregrine | ...SPLAT! |
| 00:07.51 | goozbach | heck we could almost have our own gurulug |
| 00:08.07 | emcnabb | wait, that's work every dya |
| 00:08.08 | emcnabb | day |
| 00:08.22 | emcnabb | gllug |
| 00:08.28 | Maquis | sjansen: can i join? |
| 00:08.40 | sjansen | for a small monthly fee |
| 00:08.41 | emcnabb | it will cost you... BIG TIME |
| 00:08.58 | Maquis | ummm... i have a nickel! |
| 00:09.02 | goozbach | we have financing avalible |
| 00:09.06 | Jayce^ | you need to open a vein to sign |
| 00:09.10 | Maquis | sjansen: you didn't get much... |
| 00:09.11 | peregrine | But after two months, where is he supposed to find more arms? |
| 00:09.49 | Maquis | is the nickel enough??? |
| 00:10.00 | Maquis | i might be able to convince someone to lend me a dime... |
| 00:10.03 | Maquis | :) |
| 00:10.20 | goozbach | Maquis: for today, and at 36% intrest you still owe only $35598394.65 |
| 00:10.36 | Maquis | :( |
| 00:12.10 | Maquis | peregrine: are you as cool as the other gurus? (well, the ones i know) |
| 00:12.41 | emcnabb | http://gllug.org/ |
| 00:12.44 | emcnabb | crap |
| 00:12.46 | emcnabb | it's taken |
| 00:13.11 | sjansen | gulug.org is too |
| 00:13.13 | peregrine | They should let us start using the new TLD "lug" as in guru.lug |
| 00:13.46 | goozbach | Maquis: he is almost not exactly less cool than we. |
| 00:13.58 | goozbach | parse _THAT_! |
| 00:14.02 | Maquis | goozbach: almost, not exactly, less cool... |
| 00:14.03 | peregrine | Maquis: I would like to think so, but I guess I should not try to toot my own horn. |
| 00:14.15 | Maquis | peregrine: cool :) |
| 00:14.50 | sjansen | gurulug is available |
| 00:15.21 | peregrine | Maquis: Thanks! :) |
| 00:15.32 | Maquis | you should hang around here more often |
| 00:15.33 | Maquis | :) |
| 00:15.50 | Bradipo | levi: as long as those meta-lugs are also associated with a geocache that is only available via GPS coordinates, that's fine with me. |
| 00:16.35 | Maquis | hmmm |
| 00:16.41 | Maquis | go buy food now, or just wait til tomorrow |
| 00:16.47 | emcnabb | Well, let's just say, 'if your VCR is still blinking 12:00, you don't want Linux'. |
| 00:16.47 | emcnabb | -- Bruce Perens, Debian's Fearless Leader |
| 00:17.03 | Newsome | ~lart Perens |
| 00:17.27 | Newsome | ~praise parens |
| 00:17.29 | ibot | All hail parens! |
| 00:17.31 | Newsome | (())(())(())(()) |
| 00:17.56 | Maquis | Newsome: :(){ : | :; );: |
| 00:18.26 | Maquis | peregrine: i've been out of food since winter break |
| 00:18.39 | Maquis | but my car died, and i never made it out to buy food |
| 00:18.47 | Maquis | and now that my car is going again....... |
| 00:18.48 | peregrine | Ouch. |
| 00:19.02 | Maquis | :) |
| 00:19.05 | Maquis | college life... |
| 00:19.10 | peregrine | Well, at least your dog can't be run over by that dog. |
| 00:19.14 | peregrine | um...car. |
| 00:19.21 | Maquis | ???? |
| 00:19.27 | sjansen | !!!! |
| 00:19.34 | goozbach | **** |
| 00:19.38 | goozbach | %%%% |
| 00:19.44 | goozbach | $$$$ |
| 00:25.55 | sjansen | ~hail XML |
| 00:25.57 | ibot | ACTION bows down to XML and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" |
| 00:26.02 | sjansen | ~hail XML |
| 00:26.04 | ibot | ACTION bows down to XML and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" |
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| 00:28.14 | synic | anyone know what store might sell a minipci wireless antenna |
| 00:28.14 | synic | ? |
| 00:28.15 | sjansen | ~hail XML |
| 00:28.17 | ibot | ACTION bows down to XML and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" |
| 00:28.18 | synic | KorUpted, :P |
| 00:28.22 | KorUpted | ;)( |
| 00:29.47 | synic | KorUpted, what are you doing here? I thought you were against oss? |
| 00:30.06 | KorUpted | heard about it and had to check this place out ;) |
| 00:30.33 | synic | oh, I see |
| 00:32.45 | sjansen | KorUpted: Is anti-OSS?!! |
| 00:32.51 | sjansen | ~lynch KorUpted |
| 00:32.52 | KorUpted | blah, no |
| 00:32.55 | sjansen | ~tar KorUpted |
| 00:32.59 | sjansen | ~feather KorUpted |
| 00:33.04 | KorUpted | ~runs! |
| 00:33.05 | ibot | ACTION runs around the room maniacally while whistling! |
| 00:33.13 | sjansen | KorUpted: oh, uh, so sorry then |
| 00:33.24 | synic | just against linux? |
| 00:33.36 | sjansen | KorUpted: Is anti-Linux?!! |
| 00:33.38 | sjansen | ~lynch KorUpted |
| 00:33.40 | sjansen | ~tar KorUpted |
| 00:33.42 | sjansen | ~feather KorUpted |
| 00:33.45 | synic | lol |
| 00:33.49 | KorUpted | I'm not against it, just not particularly fond of it in some cases |
| 00:34.23 | KorUpted | had bad luck with it in the past |
| 00:35.15 | sjansen | KorUpted: so don't use Debian then, use FC/SUSE/Gentoo--the one true distro! |
| 00:35.32 | KorUpted | I've used mandrake in the past... |
| 00:36.10 | KorUpted | and had bad luck with it |
| 00:36.24 | sjansen | Well there's your problem then, you're allergic to the color Pink. I was too. Hated Mandrake. |
| 00:36.58 | KorUpted | hehe, couldn't get vid card to work right.. crashed a lot on me, was sad |
| 00:36.58 | synic | bah @ gentoo |
| 00:37.38 | goozbach | KorUpted: how long ago? |
| 00:37.55 | KorUpted | that was... Fall of 02 or 03 I think |
| 00:37.58 | KorUpted | was in a college class |
| 00:38.02 | sjansen | That wasn't Linux's fault. It was the evil card maker. |
| 00:38.05 | tene | well you *OBVIOUSLY* just aren't elite enough to use it. alternately "Just wait a little while! Linux is almost ready for the desktop!" |
| 00:38.10 | sjansen | Was it an nVidia per-chance? |
| 00:38.19 | KorUpted | I think it was |
| 00:38.27 | KorUpted | the computer was a dell too =( |
| 00:38.45 | sjansen | Gotta know what you're getting into with nVidia. |
| 00:39.06 | sjansen | IIRC, Mandrake ships the nvidia driver instead of nv. |
| 00:39.28 | tene | (disregarding the fact that regardless the reason, it Just Doesn't Work Right Without Haxing.) |
| 00:39.29 | sjansen | You'd probably have had more luck with Red Hat/Fedora Core. |
| 00:41.56 | sjansen | stupid SUSE |
| 00:45.41 | hans | Jayce^: ping |
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| 00:51.46 | sjansen | and another SUSE bug |
| 00:53.12 | sjansen | Oh well, at least they've made it easier to report bugs. |
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| 00:57.35 | elg | ~boot Hanuman |
| 00:57.38 | ibot | ACTION says "boot to the head" to Hanuman and knocks him over |
| 00:57.39 | elg | ~boot hans |
| 00:57.41 | ibot | ACTION says "boot to the head" to hans and knocks him over |
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| 01:02.46 | emcnabb | long time no see tylerl |
| 01:02.52 | emcnabb | gtg |
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| 01:29.35 | Maquis | sjansen: give that back! |
| 01:29.37 | Maquis | NOW! |
| 01:29.41 | Maquis | tensai: mmmmm |
| 01:30.34 | Maquis | ~flog sjansen |
| 01:30.36 | ibot | ACTION hog-ties sjansen and starts the heavy punishment with a cat-o-nine-tails. |
| 01:31.35 | sjansen | No thanks, I'm not that hungry. |
| 01:48.16 | Maquis | ??? |
| 01:48.31 | peregrine | All this talk of food...I am going to go out for some Thai. |
| 01:48.42 | Maquis | mmmmmm thai..... |
| 01:48.59 | Maquis | what the? |
| 01:49.08 | Maquis | my favorite online game is blocked by byu |
| 01:49.20 | peregrine | Which game? |
| 01:50.25 | Maquis | it's called curveball] |
| 01:50.29 | Maquis | it's on addictinggames.com |
| 01:51.43 | Maquis | peregrine: did you go to byu? |
| 01:51.57 | peregrine | ~flog BYU-game-blocker |
| 01:51.59 | ibot | ACTION hog-ties BYU-game-blocker and starts the heavy punishment with a cat-o-nine-tails. |
| 01:52.20 | peregrine | No. But I didn't teach there once. |
| 01:52.28 | Maquis | did? |
| 01:53.08 | peregrine | No, I went to give a certification exam at BYU once, but the equipment was too shody and we couldn't do it. |
| 01:53.14 | Maquis | oh |
| 01:53.18 | Maquis | yeah... |
| 01:53.22 | Maquis | was that for OIT? |
| 01:53.28 | peregrine | Yup. |
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| 01:53.42 | Maquis | OIT sucks |
| 01:54.02 | peregrine | ~tar OIT |
| 01:54.42 | tene | ~lart BYUOIT |
| 01:55.18 | sjansen | ibot, tar $who is <action> shoves $who in a box then tosses the box in a trash compactor |
| 01:55.20 | ibot | okay, sjansen |
| 01:55.40 | peregrine | ~tar BYUOIT |
| 01:55.43 | ibot | ACTION shoves BYUOIT in a box then tosses the box in a trash compactor |
| 01:56.14 | peregrine | Maquis: What are you studying at the Y? |
| 01:56.21 | Maquis | CS |
| 01:56.51 | peregrine | Sounds like fun. Is that where you know emcnabb & sjansen from? |
| 01:58.14 | peregrine | Well, I'm going to pack it in. Maybe I will get on later tonight. |
| 01:58.30 | Maquis | peregrine: kinda |
| 01:58.36 | Maquis | i know them more from UUG |
| 01:58.37 | peregrine | Maquis: It has been nice to meet you. |
| 01:58.42 | Maquis | (BYU's Unix Users Group) |
| 01:58.47 | Maquis | yeah... nice to meet you too |
| 01:58.54 | Maquis | come back soon |
| 01:58.55 | Maquis | :) |
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| 02:08.17 | goozbach | ~lart the larters |
| 02:08.38 | goozbach | ~lart the larting lart out of lartster |
| 02:10.41 | Maquis | lartster??? |
| 02:13.54 | goozbach | I donno |
| 02:19.30 | goozbach | ~lartster |
| 02:19.38 | goozbach | Maquis: guess what?... |
| 02:19.45 | Maquis | what? |
| 02:19.54 | goozbach | picklebot is now learning new tricks |
| 02:20.26 | goozbach | he can now do two larts and stores all verbs passed to him |
| 02:20.32 | Maquis | cool!!! |
| 02:21.14 | beandog | I need something to cook |
| 02:21.53 | Maquis | beandog: ramen's quick and easy |
| 02:22.12 | beandog | nah |
| 02:22.17 | goozbach | ohh ramen |
| 02:22.17 | sjansen | spoken like a true college student |
| 02:22.18 | beandog | I want to cook to enjoy cooking :) |
| 02:22.35 | goozbach | beandog: three bean soup |
| 02:23.00 | beandog | I dont like beans |
| 02:23.17 | Maquis | then why are you beandog? |
| 02:23.29 | beandog | I dont know, my family calls me that. |
| 02:23.51 | beandog | all Ive got in the pantry is yellow cake and beef stew |
| 02:24.06 | beandog | I really need to expand my horizons. |
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| 02:25.27 | goozbach | hmm yellow beefcake |
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| 02:25.29 | Maquis | beandog: i know the feeling.. |
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| 02:25.41 | Maquis | i finally went to the grocery store today!!! |
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| 02:26.29 | beandog | gosh Im hearing the phantom phone |
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| 02:26.39 | Maquis | ??? |
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| 02:26.59 | beandog | At work the phone rings intermittently in the background |
| 02:27.04 | beandog | I can still "hear" it. |
| 02:27.15 | beandog | while at home. |
| 02:27.35 | beandog | Its probably just random background noise that sounds like it. |
| 02:27.35 | Maquis | oh... |
| 02:27.46 | Maquis | or you're going crazy... |
| 02:27.52 | beandog | Thats true. |
| 02:28.01 | beandog | I had this one job where the last thing you wanted to do was hear the phone ring / answer it |
| 02:28.03 | beandog | Oh man. |
| 02:28.09 | beandog | It definately caused some psychosis. |
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| 02:29.16 | beandog | Im split between cooking dinner, making dinner, and watching a movie. |
| 02:29.28 | beandog | er |
| 02:29.34 | beandog | making ebuilds I mean |
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| 02:34.08 | Maquis | beandog: how exactly do you make ebuilds? |
| 02:34.27 | beandog | theyre just text files |
| 02:34.42 | goozbach | Maquis: step 1: cd ./ebuilds |
| 02:34.50 | goozbach | step 2: make |
| 02:35.07 | Maquis | oh... so not like, writing ebuild files? |
| 02:35.19 | beandog | No |
| 02:35.22 | beandog | Im writing ebuild files |
| 02:35.25 | sjansen | ignore goozbach |
| 02:35.31 | Maquis | sjansen: thanks |
| 02:35.33 | Maquis | a bit late though |
| 02:35.36 | sjansen | He can't even keep an FC2 box stable. |
| 02:35.37 | Maquis | beandog: how? |
| 02:35.50 | Maquis | sjansen: really??? is there a story here??? |
| 02:36.09 | beandog | Well, all they are is text files that are bash scripts that call portage functions. |
| 02:36.20 | beandog | And you just pass in the paramaters, like dependencies |
| 02:36.44 | beandog | heres one I wrote |
| 02:36.44 | beandog | http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=74644 |
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| 02:37.15 | beandog | then when youre done writing it, you just test it |
| 02:37.19 | beandog | See if it builds, compiles, etc. |
| 02:37.23 | goozbach | Maquis: lets just say it involves no sleep, wanting to play mp3s in amorok and --force installing a bunch of RPMS |
| 02:37.35 | Maquis | goozbach: amorok? |
| 02:37.44 | Maquis | hmmmm |
| 02:37.46 | goozbach | kde-based music player |
| 02:38.01 | Maquis | how badly did you kill it? |
| 02:38.07 | beandog | goozbach: any good? |
| 02:38.22 | beandog | man, my portage is slooooooooooooooooooooooow |
| 02:39.20 | mheath | mmmm. emerge system is almost done :) |
| 02:39.30 | beandog | wow that was fast |
| 02:39.37 | JoshH | mmmm, apt-get upgrade done in 3 minutes today |
| 02:39.53 | beandog | mheath: gotta do emerge -puvDta --newuse :D |
| 02:40.27 | goozbach | it's a really good player |
| 02:40.37 | goozbach | execpt on FC/RH |
| 02:40.37 | beandog | Oh good grief, stupid thing. |
| 02:40.46 | goozbach | (mp3 issues and so forth) |
| 02:41.07 | beandog | Im in love with xmms |
| 02:41.17 | beandog | rhythymbox is a close 8th. |
| 02:41.28 | beandog | if that. |
| 02:41.40 | JoshH | i hate rb |
| 02:41.45 | beandog | Maquis: did that make sense about the ebuilds? |
| 02:41.53 | mheath | I wish xmms had more support for themes |
| 02:41.54 | beandog | how come? |
| 02:41.59 | mheath | Other than that, I love it. |
| 02:42.12 | beandog | Id use it if it didnt use 90% cpu just LOOKING for my mp3s. |
| 02:42.40 | JoshH | mheath: there are some good winamp classic skins out there if you loo |
| 02:42.41 | JoshH | k |
| 02:42.52 | mheath | JoshH: themes != skins :) |
| 02:42.55 | JoshH | heh |
| 02:43.05 | mheath | I wish you could change it's size/shape. I just consider it really cramped. |
| 02:43.09 | JoshH | it would be nice if it was like winamp 5 though |
| 02:43.23 | Maquis | beandog: yeah |
| 02:43.31 | mheath | XMMS started off as a direct clone of WinAmp |
| 02:44.20 | beandog | I wonder if bmp will ever do stuff like that, mheath |
| 02:44.53 | JoshH | bmp is basically just a gtk2 xmms... i doubt we will have a nice uber customizable media player in the foreseeable future. :( |
| 02:45.14 | beandog | theres always zinf :D |
| 02:45.23 | mheath | Another feature I wish xmms had: play lists |
| 02:45.44 | beandog | I think winamp will run in wine |
| 02:46.05 | mheath | I mean, playlists that you can save and load, and a decent mouse-driven interface for doing so |
| 02:46.08 | beandog | playlists? |
| 02:46.09 | beandog | oh |
| 02:46.11 | beandog | gnump3d |
| 02:46.18 | beandog | thats my playlists |
| 02:46.48 | beandog | http://www.gnump3d.org/ |
| 02:47.01 | mheath | I know it. You don't have to give me a link :) |
| 02:47.09 | beandog | Oh. |
| 02:47.14 | beandog | Screenshots are hideous. |
| 02:48.42 | mheath | Even Knoppix is too confusing for your average windows user |
| 02:48.44 | Maquis | mheath: i wish there was a LiveCD that i felt confortable using for long periods of time |
| 02:49.17 | beandog | I like Morphix |
| 02:49.24 | beandog | Its still kinda confusing though. |
| 02:49.39 | beandog | well I dunno. |
| 02:49.45 | beandog | xfce4 is pretty intuitive. |
| 02:50.17 | JoshH | i dunno, i know some complete noobs that know how to use knoppix well enough to do stuff |
| 02:50.23 | mheath | One of these days I need to sit down and read through the documentation for some of the Window Managers I've never used |
| 02:50.46 | Maquis | goozbach: you around? |
| 02:50.50 | mheath | A lot of them can look really nice, apparently, but don't by default - and I've never bothered learning how to customize them |
| 02:50.53 | JoshH | gnome, fluxbox, and enlightenment are the only 3 that matter. ;) |
| 02:51.06 | JoshH | depending on how nice of a machine you are using |
| 02:51.07 | beandog | and icewm |
| 02:51.14 | Maquis | mheath: evilwm is nice |
| 02:51.27 | mheath | I use gnome at the moment |
| 02:51.34 | Maquis | ick |
| 02:51.36 | JoshH | i use gnome at home, fluxbox at work |
| 02:51.38 | beandog | double ick |
| 02:51.45 | mheath | Metacity and GTK are nice, and I like Nautilus's Desktop Management |
| 02:51.55 | beandog | I cant stand Gnome's toolbar |
| 02:51.57 | mheath | Plus, I'm growing to love gnome-volume-manager |
| 02:52.01 | mheath | beandog: so? T |
| 02:52.01 | JoshH | metacity is lacking a lot of features, but it stays out of the way |
| 02:52.05 | beandog | it makes me want to rip out some GNU developer's eyeballs. |
| 02:52.10 | JoshH | i just use a gnome panel to store all of my icons |
| 02:52.12 | mheath | Thats a program. You can choose not to start up gnome-panel |
| 02:52.15 | JoshH | its handy imo |
| 02:52.16 | beandog | but, Im just picky. |
| 02:52.26 | beandog | I never got that far. |
| 02:52.30 | beandog | Gnome == too slow for me |
| 02:52.41 | mheath | If you like eyecandy, you might want to use a gdesklet's toolbar |
| 02:52.55 | mheath | You could have a toolbar like Mac OS X's :) |
| 02:52.58 | JoshH | http://josh.gnomefoo.com/img/Screenshot.png |
| 02:53.16 | JoshH | the panel on the right, the command prompt and cdrom/camera mounters at the top, and the samba mount icon are the reasons i like gnome |
| 02:53.59 | sjansen | and spatial nautilus |
| 02:54.05 | JoshH | actually i like the old naut better |
| 02:54.08 | JoshH | i cant stand spatial |
| 02:54.28 | sjansen | you're a fool, but you can gconf that |
| 02:54.34 | JoshH | ya, i do |
| 02:54.42 | beandog | xterm is my file directory browser |
| 02:56.03 | mheath | JoshH: look into gdesklets. You can get a better looking, animated equiv. of that icon menu you have on the righ |
| 02:56.19 | JoshH | mheath: i used to use it, but i stopped after a while because it used too much cpu |
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| 02:56.36 | JoshH | i had the starterbar, a calendar, and some system monitors, and my cpu was always at like 15 percent |
| 02:56.43 | mheath | JoshH: Yeah |
| 02:56.43 | JoshH | oh and a weather thing |
| 02:56.48 | mheath | Its starting to improve though |
| 02:56.56 | JoshH | i havent tried it for a long time |
| 02:57.02 | mheath | They've been making a ton of improvements too |
| 02:57.05 | JoshH | im happy with gkrellm |
| 02:57.12 | JoshH | maybe ill try it again someday |
| 02:57.21 | mheath | (Unfortunately they *just* broke compatability with some older desklets) |
| 02:58.30 | beandog | Anyone ever play Icewind Dale? |
| 02:59.00 | JoshH | i havent personally, but i hear its fairly good. |
| 03:00.15 | beandog | 'tis fun |
| 03:00.21 | beandog | Im listening to the soundtrack right now. |
| 03:00.23 | beandog | Great score. |
| 03:04.18 | JoshH | i still need to beat neverwinter nights |
| 03:04.26 | JoshH | its pathetic, but im still only like 2 hours into the game |
| 03:04.37 | JoshH | after all this time... |
| 03:08.32 | JoshH | and kotor too actually |
| 03:12.51 | goozbach | ohh kotor |
| 03:13.45 | Maquis | kotor? |
| 03:16.57 | mheath | This Japanese class is starting to sound like its not that great |
| 03:16.57 | JoshH | knights of the old republic |
| 03:16.59 | JoshH | star wars rpg |
| 03:17.05 | Maquis | oh |
| 03:17.19 | JoshH | great game, i just had a hard time getting into it due to time constraints |
| 03:17.42 | mheath | All these videos have been teaching generic phrases, no grammer, no real volcabulary.... |
| 03:18.03 | Maquis | mheath: you're supposed to figure those things out on your own :) |
| 03:18.07 | Maquis | ~lart spr |
| 03:18.28 | mheath | The book for the class (which I just ordered) has horrible reviews on amazon.com, and all of them say the same things (phrases, no grammer, lots of vocabulary but its poorly organized) |
| 03:19.24 | mheath | Otherwise, I don't think I'd get anything out of this class except for some vocabulary and phrases that I'll forget a month later. |
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| 03:20.22 | mheath | In short: This class is just like every other High School foreign language class, apparently. |
| 03:21.03 | sjansen | practically useless |
| 03:21.27 | mheath | Yes. |
| 03:21.56 | mheath | I know so many people who are in their 3rd year of Spanish classes at my school, who can't speak more than a couple of words of spanish. |
| 03:22.15 | Maquis | my high school language classes were really quite good |
| 03:23.25 | Maquis | ~praise my high school |
| 03:23.27 | ibot | All hail my high school! |
| 03:23.56 | tensai | 3 years of japanese helped me during my first 4 weeks at the MTC |
| 03:25.21 | mheath | Again, the fact that I have someone whos personally been helping me with my grammer and vocabulary, and who I can actually talk to in Japanese....is helpful. |
| 03:25.44 | LeviHome | I took Latin in High School. We weren't supposed to be able to speak it. :) |
| 03:27.08 | Maquis | Lakeside Takes First Place in National Knowledge Bowl Competition |
| 03:27.16 | Maquis | that's my high school :) |
| 03:28.16 | mheath | Any teacher dumb enough to teach using hard-to-hear overcompressed RealVideo video files should not be allowed to teach Japanese online |
| 03:28.25 | tensai | that's a pretty funky name. LTFPNKBC high? |
| 03:28.49 | Maquis | Lakeside Football Team Honored With Academic Award <-- the only thing our football team will ever win |
| 03:29.04 | mheath | Its frustrating when I have to rewind something 10+ times to hear a particular word, and STILL get the pronounciation WAY off because its distorted |
| 03:29.08 | Maquis | ~lart tensai |
| 03:29.15 | Maquis | my school has more money than your school had |
| 03:29.37 | Maquis | (and i dare you to challenge me on that one) |
| 03:30.06 | tensai | I don't doubt it. my school didn't shack up to Bill G |
| 03:30.16 | Maquis | :) |
| 03:30.25 | Maquis | that wasn't the only reason... |
| 03:30.57 | tensai | I see you're not denying it though |
| 03:31.03 | Maquis | well... |
| 03:31.05 | Maquis | we can't deny it |
| 03:31.11 | Maquis | he gives us 11 million / year |
| 03:31.22 | Maquis | one of my teachers though, was asked to prom by him... |
| 03:31.36 | Maquis | she told him "i would rather not go than go with you" |
| 03:31.47 | sjansen | ouch |
| 03:31.56 | Maquis | do you blame her? |
| 03:32.29 | mheath | Would rather not go with who? |
| 03:32.30 | Maquis | http://www.lakesideschool.com/tour/ <-- pictures of a few of the buildings at our high school |
| 03:32.35 | Maquis | mheath: bill gates |
| 03:32.48 | sjansen | pretty |
| 03:32.55 | Maquis | yeah |
| 03:32.57 | mheath | ....She was asked to prom by bill gates? Am I missing something? Are you joking? |
| 03:33.07 | Maquis | at one point, we counted, and there were something like 15 buildings |
| 03:33.10 | Maquis | mheath: no i'm not |
| 03:33.16 | Maquis | bill gates went to my high school |
| 03:33.17 | tensai | if my school had a budget of 11 million / year I'd be surprised |
| 03:33.37 | Maquis | and about half the teachers went there for high school (and then went and got phds) |
| 03:33.52 | Maquis | every teacher (for an academic subject) at the school has at least a masters... |
| 03:33.52 | tensai | we had 4 counting the box car where the football team kept their gear and the shed where we kept the pole vault pads. |
| 03:34.38 | mheath | Well, two |
| 03:34.45 | Maquis | what? |
| 03:34.55 | mheath | We used to have (before we got a new debate coach) the best debate team in the state of Utah....... |
| 03:35.10 | mheath | And a *very* good one on the national level... |
| 03:35.10 | Maquis | mheath: nice!!!! |
| 03:35.22 | Maquis | we had one of the best in washington... but it was too small... |
| 03:35.25 | Maquis | only 5 of us |
| 03:35.25 | mheath | And, our Video Production program is very good |
| 03:35.29 | Maquis | nice! |
| 03:36.07 | mheath | We produce better stuff with $7,000 worth of equipment than Freemont High does with $250,000+ worth of equipment :D |
| 03:36.16 | mheath | Though that statement isn't saying much. Freemont sucks. |
| 03:36.17 | Maquis | :) |
| 03:36.20 | Maquis | haha |
| 03:37.38 | mheath | We might be starting on a documentary soon, about some work some students are doing to assist a mentally handicapped child in his use of a computer |
| 03:37.53 | Maquis | that's really cool! |
| 03:38.43 | Maquis | :) |
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| 03:41.13 | Maquis | ~lart amcnabb |
| 03:41.15 | Maquis | :) |
| 03:42.02 | mheath | Woah |
| 03:42.09 | mheath | My emerge system just finished |
| 03:44.23 | mheath | Wow. I was just looking at an old Desert News article on the net, talking about how that teacher helped a girl battle depression and decide not to commit suicide.... |
| 03:44.54 | mheath | I saw that before, just realized though that a few years later its the girl he's helping with a major recording contract...apparently she has an amazing voice.. |
| 03:57.34 | mheath | Hmm. Anyone here use a USB Mouse or Keyboard in Linux? |
| 03:57.45 | sjansen | daily |
| 03:58.47 | tensai | same |
| 04:00.21 | mheath | Do I just need to enable the drivers for my USB and support for USB HID? |
| 04:00.45 | mheath | Is that all thats needed in the kernel config? (This is the first time I've configured a kernel for USB Mouse+keyboard) |
| 04:02.51 | JoshH | CONFIG_USB_KBD=m |
| 04:02.51 | JoshH | CONFIG_USB_MOUSE=m |
| 04:03.05 | JoshH | use y if you want |
| 04:03.15 | JoshH | CONFIG_USB_HIDINPUT=y |
| 04:03.15 | mheath | Ah, ok. |
| 04:03.32 | JoshH | CONFIG_USB_HID=y |
| 04:03.35 | tensai | CONFIG_USB_HID as well. I use hotplug and everything Just Works(tm) |
| 04:03.51 | mheath | Heh, ok. |
| 04:04.03 | mheath | This is the first time I've ever used USB. |
| 04:04.12 | JoshH | and of course, CONFIG_USB=y |
| 04:04.20 | JoshH | its easy, basically if it looks like you need it, just say y |
| 04:04.26 | mheath | Excepting the scanner and printer on my dad's computer. |
| 04:04.36 | mheath | JoshH: heh, yeah, of course |
| 04:06.02 | tensai | I switched to distro provided kernels. Seems to work better that way and I don't have to waste time compiling. |
| 04:06.14 | mheath | Doesn't work better for me that way |
| 04:06.19 | mheath | Plus, I like monolithic kernels |
| 04:06.24 | JoshH | distro kernels are nicer these days, but i still usually build my own just out of habit |
| 04:06.41 | JoshH | plus i despise initrd's |
| 04:07.10 | tensai | once the preempt patch went mainline, I didn't have any reason to |
| 04:07.14 | Maquis | i remember my first time rebuilding my kernel |
| 04:07.27 | Maquis | then i switched to gentoo.... |
| 04:07.39 | mheath | Haha, I remember rebuilding my kernel the first time |
| 04:07.48 | JoshH | lol |
| 04:07.57 | mheath | I was confused, it didn't even work |
| 04:08.20 | mheath | Looking back, I think I disabled console support |
| 04:08.26 | JoshH | the first time i ever did it, i had no clue what i was doing, i was just lookig at the help for everything, saying yes if it was something i obvioiusly needed, guessing on other stuff, etc. but it worked just fine when i booted it. |
| 04:08.55 | mheath | When I first did it, I knew *nothing* about linux, really. |
| 04:10.59 | JoshH | ive probably compiled about 50 kernels since then, i can almost configure them blindfolded now. |
| 04:11.13 | mheath | Yeah, same with me. |
| 04:11.23 | LeviHome | When I first compiled a kernel, it took an entire day to do it. |
| 04:11.31 | mheath | Unless I get weird new hardware that I've never worked with before :) |
| 04:11.53 | mheath | This mouse and keyboard the first piece of USB hardware that I've ever used on my own computer. |
| 04:12.28 | JoshH | i use a usb mouse, usb printer, and usb logitech game controller for znes |
| 04:12.36 | mheath | My printer is parallel... |
| 04:12.36 | JoshH | oh and my usb camera |
| 04:12.38 | sjansen | Well, time for all good boys to start getting ready for bed. |
| 04:12.55 | JoshH | zsnes rather |
| 04:12.56 | mheath | My game pad uses the gaming/midi port on my sound card.. |
| 04:13.23 | JoshH | ive never used firewire though, with any OS actually... |
| 04:14.02 | mheath | Er, copy video from them, that is. |
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| 04:14.55 | levi-treo | Woot. |
| 04:15.07 | mheath | I need new toner.. |
| 04:15.13 | mheath | But I'm broke at the moment. |
| 04:15.32 | Maquis | maybe they're all a bunch of posers... |
| 04:15.39 | levi-treo | I need a laser printer |
| 04:15.53 | mheath | I got this one for free |
| 04:16.01 | mheath | Well, traded a nice scanner I got for free for it. |
| 04:16.07 | Maquis | ~flog tensai |
| 04:16.09 | ibot | ACTION hog-ties tensai and starts the heavy punishment with a cat-o-nine-tails. |
| 04:16.09 | levi-treo | I've had a treo longer than anyone else here that I know of. |
| 04:16.29 | Maquis-treo | levi-treo: I've got a laser printer scanner copier combo you can have. |
| 04:16.39 | levi-treo | I just didn't have irc on it until now |
| 04:16.48 | Maquis-treo | it's officially listed as a "paper weight" |
| 04:17.00 | Maquis | ~lart Maquis-treo |
| 04:17.23 | LeviHome | Maquis: Does it work? |
| 04:17.36 | Maquis | huh? |
| 04:18.00 | LeviHome | The laser printer thing. |
| 04:18.06 | Maquis-treo | LeviHome: I've only tested the copier function. I expect the fax works too. |
| 04:18.39 | Maquis-treo | printer doesn't work under linux but I think the hardware is probably functional |
| 04:18.55 | LeviHome | Hmm. I wonder if there are Mac drivers. |
| 04:19.02 | Maquis | LeviHome: that's tensai... |
| 04:19.13 | LeviHome | Maquis: Ahhhh! |
| 04:19.15 | Maquis | he's trying to make me feel better about the fact that i don't have a treo |
| 04:19.20 | Maquis-treo | no, it's me. I've just got a split personality right now. |
| 04:19.41 | LeviHome | I missed that nick change. |
| 04:19.50 | Maquis | apparently |
| 04:19.59 | mheath | My printer requires no drivers |
| 04:20.06 | mheath | just a ppd file :) |
| 04:21.14 | LeviHome | tensai: What brand/model is it? |
| 04:21.52 | tensai | Xerox WorkCentre 385 |
| 04:22.15 | mheath | Hmm |
| 04:22.25 | mheath | I just got an idea |
| 04:22.38 | mheath | My friend just moved to Japan and can't afford to make calls back here to Utah |
| 04:23.52 | mheath | I'm going to write a server and client that allows him to make free VoIP calls using my Voice modem |
| 04:23.52 | mheath | When I get time :) |
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| 04:25.55 | tensai | LeviHome: I only see Windows drivers :( |
| 04:26.15 | JoshH | that will be cool mheath |
| 04:26.21 | LeviHome | Well, hrm. I'd prefer one that had both, but I do have a windows box. |
| 04:26.25 | JoshH | a nice little project |
| 04:26.31 | tensai | mheath: why not use an existing VoIP application? they're readily available. |
| 04:26.47 | LeviHome | I never print stuff, so my ink cartridges go dry before I use them. |
| 04:26.55 | tensai | LeviHome: you remember that I'm in Idaho, right? |
| 04:27.17 | LeviHome | Ah, that makes swapping things less convenient. |
| 04:27.18 | mheath | tensai: theres VoIP servers that support bridging to telephone using generic voice-enabled serial modems? |
| 04:30.41 | tensai | you want him to connect to your server via IP and dial out your modem? |
| 04:30.54 | mheath | Yes. |
| 04:32.59 | mheath | Unfortunately, modem manufacturers are notorious for not documenting (technically) how to interact with your modem on a voice level |
| 04:33.03 | mheath | So this may b a bit tricky |
| 04:43.45 | LeviHome | USB is sooooo slooooow. |
| 04:55.08 | mheath | Oh, what fun |
| 04:55.19 | mheath | A completely undocumented weird chipset |
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| 05:02.43 | tensai | hmm. I'm starting to wonder if my neighbor has a 2.4ghz phone... |
| 05:04.54 | mheath | I hate weird chipsets |
| 05:05.16 | mheath | Usually its not a problem; you communicate with the modem via generic commands which are handled by the firmware |
| 05:05.38 | mheath | But certain undocumented non-generic features of the modem like voice.. |
| 05:14.12 | LeviHome | I thought you left. |
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| 05:15.36 | mheath | I did. |
| 05:15.38 | mheath | :) |
| 05:30.28 | mheath | Hmm. |
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| 06:19.13 | beandog | anyone still awake |
| 06:22.48 | tensai | I'm up waiting to see if Jimmy Kimmel makes fun of GWB tonight |
| 06:23.20 | beandog | fun |
| 06:23.24 | beandog | im bored |
| 06:23.31 | beandog | any good websites to goto tensai? |
| 06:24.19 | tensai | http://dxmon.cern.ch/cgi-bin/lg.cgi |
| 06:24.48 | tensai | you can look at cern's bgp routes |
| 06:26.51 | beandog | ok |
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| 06:29.14 | goozbach | heh hamstercrap |
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| 07:57.33 | tene | Hmm. |
| 07:58.00 | tene | nmap -sP is only showing linux boxes on my network |
| 07:58.13 | tene | not the win boxes |
| 07:58.28 | tene | but the win boxes respond to manual pings just fine |
| 08:00.52 | tene | hmm |
| 08:00.59 | tene | adding more -P* options worked |
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| 14:15.25 | *** topic/#utah by spr -> The source for OSS focused communication in Utah. Check out plug.org, uug.byu.edu, sllug.org, etc. byu-uug installfest today, 10am-3pm, Lobby of the crabtree building. Come help if you can. |
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| 18:30.37 | beandog | why can't vim paste like a normal editor |
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| 18:31.22 | emcnabb | how's that? |
| 18:31.52 | beandog | it decides to add its own spaces anytime I paste code |
| 18:32.09 | emcnabb | :set paste |
| 18:32.20 | beandog | yah ... like I said. |
| 18:32.37 | emcnabb | and that doesn't fix it? |
| 18:32.53 | beandog | it does, but why do I have to switch modes just to paste? |
| 18:33.00 | beandog | imo thas lame. |
| 18:33.07 | emcnabb | just add that to your .vimrc |
| 18:33.47 | beandog | hmm |
| 18:34.01 | emcnabb | then you don't need to switch modes |
| 18:35.07 | byronc | but if you put that in .vimrc, abbreviations won't work anymore |
| 18:35.39 | emcnabb | true |
| 18:35.43 | byronc | among other things, see :he paste |
| 18:36.24 | beandog | bleh |
| 18:36.29 | beandog | I wish I could just paste without having to change anything. |
| 18:36.35 | beandog | oh well. |
| 18:36.41 | byronc | you could run gvim, that usually gets it right. |
| 18:36.49 | beandog | not like Im gonna convert to nano or anything. |
| 18:37.12 | beandog | yah, except Im all console usually byronc :T |
| 18:37.32 | byronc | that would cause trouble :) |
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| 19:15.31 | mheath | Everything in it was originally intended for something more like an ATX form factor |
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| 19:17.39 | mheath | 12x9x4 inches |
| 19:17.44 | mheath | Give or take a bit |
| 19:25.05 | brailsmt | can I create a boot floppy that will boot from the network, or does that have to be supported in the hardware? |
| 19:26.55 | mheath | It depends. |
| 19:27.08 | mheath | Theres a couple options there. |
| 19:27.29 | mheath | 1) It can be builtin to the hardware. A LOT of newer network cards (particularly onboard ones) support PXE network booting |
| 19:28.27 | mheath | 2) Many network cards have expansion slots. You know, those little black things that look like you'd plug an IC into them. You can buy a compatible FLASH ROM, write Etherboot to it, and plug it in there (assuming your card is supported by etherboot) |
| 19:28.59 | mheath | 3) If your card is supported by Etherboot, you *can* write Etherboot to a floppy disk, but this isn't desirable. You should try one of the other methods first. |
| 19:31.14 | brailsmt | mheath: 1 and 2 aren't available... this is ooooolllllddddd hardware... |
| 19:31.17 | brailsmt | p75 |
| 19:32.23 | mheath | How's the netowork card connected? ISA or PCI? |
| 19:33.20 | brailsmt | the thing is running NT right now, can I tell that info with winnt? |
| 19:33.28 | brailsmt | nt4... |
| 19:34.04 | mheath | Uh, no.. |
| 19:34.06 | mheath | Well |
| 19:34.12 | mheath | What network card chipset? |
| 19:34.36 | brailsmt | ne2000 |
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| 19:35.35 | mheath | That's more than likely ISA |
| 19:35.43 | brailsmt | novell ne2000 |
| 19:35.59 | mheath | (The ne2000 chipset was later used on some early PCI network cards, but in the P75 era its probably ISA) |
| 19:36.18 | mheath | Which means I don't believe it will be supported by Etherboot. |
| 19:36.30 | mheath | It might be, though. Look at Etherboots website. |
| 19:37.15 | mheath | Be back in just a minute |
| 19:37.19 | mheath | Time for a reboot |
| 19:39.09 | brailsmt | how else can I install on this box? tomsrtbt won't boot on it, I don't have a cdrom drive and an old network card... and I don't have access to a floppy drive... |
| 20:05.54 | goozbach | a hard-drive based install |
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| 21:34.44 | xbmodder | ? |
| 21:34.59 | xbmodder | brailsmt, hey |
| 21:35.04 | xbmodder | brailsmt, you still there? |
| 21:35.41 | xbmodder | guess not |
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| 21:55.46 | xbmodder_lappy | hey |
| 21:55.48 | xbmodder_lappy | anyone home |
| 21:56.06 | xbmodder_lappy | ls -l |
| 21:57.11 | mheath | Agh! |
| 21:57.26 | xbmodder_lappy | hey |
| 21:57.33 | xbmodder_lappy | mheath, don't be hating |
| 21:57.47 | mheath | I keep enountering errors! I've already encountered dozens of problems, and all I've done is a stage 2 emerge sytem and tried to install links. |
| 22:01.55 | xbmodder_lappy | oops |
| 22:02.03 | xbmodder_lappy | NO! |
| 22:27.12 | scott_ | anyone tried the portable virual privacy machine? |
| 22:28.15 | xbmodder_lappy | ? |
| 22:28.16 | xbmodder_lappy | no |
| 22:28.17 | xbmodder_lappy | no1 |
| 22:28.47 | xbmodder_lappy | michele you need gentoo |
| 22:29.36 | mheath | ..... |
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| 22:29.58 | mheath | 1) My name is Michael, not Michele. I am not female. |
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| 22:31.00 | mheath | 2) I don't know who you are, I have very little interest in meeting you, and I don't know who Greg is. I get the impression you didn't mean to say the above message in #utah, but this is just to make sure. |
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| 22:47.23 | scott_ | PVPM is pretty cool, but way too laggy to use |
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| 23:06.41 | SpecialK | ~lart Maquis |
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| 23:11.31 | xbmodder_lappy | any idea how to loosen yourself up |
| 23:11.49 | xbmodder_lappy | im really stiff and nervous |
| 23:11.55 | xbmodder_lappy | always |
| 23:12.31 | mheath | See a doctor. |
| 23:12.50 | xbmodder_lappy | no... not in that way.... in genereal... around other people |
| 23:12.53 | xbmodder_lappy | and when im dancing |
| 23:13.29 | mheath | I've got to go iron some clothes, shower, and get ready....going to my sister's boyfriend's graduation from firefighter academy. |
| 23:13.41 | xbmodder_lappy | ouch..... |
| 23:13.54 | xbmodder_lappy | c ya |
| 23:13.58 | xbmodder_lappy | bye mheath |
| 23:43.41 | xbmodder_lappy | ~xbmodde |
| 23:43.43 | xbmodder_lappy | ~xbmodder |
| 23:43.44 | ibot | well, xbmodder is a world record setting 14 year old great guy who lives in paradise |
| 23:43.52 | xbmodder_lappy | ~mheath |
| 23:43.53 | ibot | hmm... mheath is a cool guy who hasn't set any world records :) |
| 23:44.30 | xbmodder_lappy | ~japenese |
| 23:44.57 | xbmodder_lappy | ibot: japenese, is a language that mheath, and xbmodder know |
| 23:44.59 | ibot | okay, xbmodder_lappy |
| 23:45.00 | xbmodder_lappy | ~japenese |
| 23:45.38 | xbmodder_lappy | grrr |
| 23:45.43 | xbmodder_lappy | japenese, is a language that mheath, and xbmodder know |
| 23:45.50 | xbmodder_lappy | ibot: japenese is a language that mheath, and xbmodder know |
| 23:45.51 | ibot | xbmodder_lappy: okay |
| 23:45.55 | xbmodder_lappy | ~japenese |
| 23:45.56 | ibot | i guess japenese is a language that mheath, and xbmodder know |
| 23:46.32 | byronc | ~japanese |
| 23:46.33 | ibot | i heard japanese is a foreign programming language |
| 23:46.46 | byronc | ~ruby |
| 23:46.47 | ibot | [ruby] the OO scripting language from Japan or in feed "http://httpd.chello.nl/k.vangelder/ipaq/feed/" or featuring the best from Perl and SmallTalk or in feed "http://handhelds.org/feeds/ruby/" or better than python or inferior to python. |
| 23:46.49 | xbmodder_lappy | haha |
| 23:47.22 | byronc | wow, better than python and inferior to python, that's a tall order |
| 23:47.49 | xbmodder_lappy | inferior |
| 23:47.59 | xbmodder_lappy | defiently inferior |
| 23:48.11 | byronc | I'm going to have to disagree there |
| 23:49.40 | xbmodder_lappy | mysql is cool |
| 23:50.13 | byronc | ~lart cheap palm pilot keyboards |
| 23:51.18 | xbmodder_lappy | you agree |
| 23:51.33 | xbmodder_lappy | w00t w00t w00t |
| 23:51.47 | xbmodder_lappy | in class i turn the TV on & off |
| 23:51.53 | xbmodder_lappy | pretty funny |
| 23:52.11 | xbmodder_lappy | i won like 10 minutes of time |
