| 00:04.26 | bonez39 | jsmith: so, how does one avoid the traps of .exe files in music? |
| 00:05.13 | jsmith | bonez39: Don't listen to music files you obtain illegally? |
| 00:05.25 | jsmith | bonez39: Only listen to music you legally rip yourself? |
| 00:05.57 | jsmith | bonez39: Don't use files from untrustworthy sources, no matter what type of file they are. |
| 00:06.15 | sjansen | Don't use Windows. |
| 00:06.18 | jsmith | I guess .txt files are probably safe... |
| 00:06.32 | bonez39 | if I run gtk-gnutella.......are those illegal? |
| 00:06.39 | jsmith | sjansen: Linux isn't necessarily immune... |
| 00:06.40 | bonez39 | I don't run windows.... |
| 00:07.04 | jsmith | bonez39: Most of the files traded on gnutella are illegal and may come from untrustworthy sources |
| 00:07.09 | bonez39 | jsmith: what music service do you use? |
| 00:07.26 | jsmith | bonez39: I buy CDs, and turn them into mp3s myself. |
| 00:07.48 | jsmith | bonez39: I've also bought a few songs off of iTunes. |
| 00:07.58 | bonez39 | what if you want a cd that no one carries anymore? |
| 00:08.33 | jsmith | bonez39: Then I've got a moral dilemma -- either break the law, or find something else to listen to |
| 00:09.04 | jsmith | bonez39: The fact that nobody carries it anyome doesn't make it legal, or ethical. |
| 00:09.44 | bonez39 | true.... |
| 00:09.44 | jsmith | I don't mean to sound high and mighty, but I'm just sick and tired of open-source people that expect people to follow the GPL, but ignore other people's licenses. |
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| 00:10.03 | bonez39 | you are right... |
| 00:10.19 | jsmith | Like somehow piracy is OK as long as it's not open-source stuff you're copying. |
| 00:11.13 | bonez39 | yeah.... |
| 00:11.28 | bonez39 | I think the law should apply equally..... |
| 00:12.38 | bonez39 | what I don't get....is the music and movie industry spending millions on anticopy stuff that someone with a magic marker defeats, and all the dough they spend on attorneys who do nothing to help the music business...or they clobber these very talented kids who hack their stuff...instead of putting them on the payroll and firing the attorneys....... |
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| 00:15.06 | sjansen | We all dislike that part. |
| 00:15.17 | Martin | Hello room |
| 00:15.22 | Martin | Happy New Year |
| 00:15.41 | sjansen | You're early, Martin, this is #utah. |
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| 00:17.21 | Martin | not long |
| 00:19.39 | Martin | so is everyone using Opera here? |
| 00:20.20 | Martin | best browser imho |
| 00:20.59 | spr | I use Firefox personally, as do a number of others |
| 00:22.00 | Martin | firefox is good too |
| 00:22.14 | Martin | i just like the look and feel of Opera |
| 00:22.36 | Martin | and it has integrated email, chat, ecerything |
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| 00:26.49 | jsmith | Chat inside my email program? Yuck! |
| 00:27.12 | jsmith | Would you like a blender in your car? A faucet in your mp3 player? |
| 00:27.23 | jsmith | (Sorry, I'm on one today) |
| 00:44.00 | tene | hmm |
| 00:44.10 | tene | anyone know how I can get grep to search for a \t? |
| 00:44.18 | tene | for a tab char, that is, not a literal "\t" |
| 00:45.11 | byronc | tene: hit Ctrl-v then tab when entering the pattern |
| 00:46.03 | tene | sweet, thanks |
| 00:46.07 | byronc | tene: you'll need to put that in some quotes. |
| 00:46.14 | tene | so I discovered |
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| 00:48.34 | sjansen | I win! |
| 00:50.54 | SpecialK | win what? |
| 00:54.56 | sjansen | My fight with RPM database corruption. |
| 01:01.10 | jsmith-away | sjansen: Congrats... how long will it last this time? |
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| 01:07.23 | sjansen | jsmith-away: What do you mean? |
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| 02:30.17 | xbmodder | ? |
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| 03:01.31 | Maquis|home | I'm glad to see everyone else has more of a social life tonight than i do... :) |
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| 03:16.12 | jsmith | Maquis|home: Wrong answer... |
| 03:16.21 | Maquis|home | ah... |
| 03:16.36 | Maquis|home | so, you're up to nothing as well? |
| 03:27.23 | xbmodder | Maquis|home, hey!!! |
| 03:27.26 | xbmodder | sup! |
| 03:27.45 | Maquis|home | nothing really... |
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| 03:30.42 | xbmodder | :( |
| 03:31.04 | beandog | why the long face |
| 03:37.15 | beandog | happy new year, all :) |
| 03:38.58 | jsmith | Maquis|home: Well, not nothing... I'm writing a book... |
| 03:41.41 | xbmodder | about what jsmith |
| 03:41.54 | xbmodder | beandog, life is getting to complicated... |
| 03:41.55 | jsmith | About Asterisk and voice-over-IP |
| 03:42.09 | xbmodder | not complicated but annoying |
| 03:42.56 | beandog | how come |
| 03:44.25 | xbmodder | i have reasons... |
| 03:47.46 | Maquis|home | gah... |
| 03:48.21 | Maquis|home | so, my parents are having an "adult" party (the definition of "adult" changed when i turned 18... now it means married with kids)... |
| 03:48.30 | Maquis|home | so, i'm expected to help out with all the preparation and everything... |
| 03:48.49 | Maquis|home | and then i get to watch two little kids whose parents couldn't get a sitter... |
| 03:49.24 | Maquis|home | at least i get some of the food when they eat... |
| 03:49.37 | Maquis|home | but i'd rather just curl up in my room and work on my website or something... |
| 03:50.05 | Maquis|home | i don't feel like watching little kids until 1 |
| 03:52.02 | xbmodder | ouch |
| 03:52.19 | Maquis|home | meh... shouldve expected it |
| 03:52.22 | xbmodder | sucks for you |
| 03:52.28 | Maquis|home | i'll get over it... |
| 03:52.30 | beandog | what website? |
| 03:52.45 | xbmodder | whats your website? |
| 03:52.49 | beandog | Maquis|home, all you really need to do is have a few kids then I'm sure they'll let you join in |
| 03:52.50 | xbmodder | URL? |