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| 01:31.59 | jlp | unison also actually works with lots of files (unlike rsync, which I do like, but which falls over when you have lots of files) |
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| 02:23.44 | goozbach | http://www.jerrythefrogproductions.com/MovieTheatre.html |
| 02:23.51 | goozbach | lotd... |
| 02:23.59 | goozbach | hand puppet theater |
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| 04:43.12 | jarnaud2 | Is Derek Here ? |
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| 05:24.22 | SpecialK | So I put my new box together, and it doesn't like having two CD drives on the second channel. . . |
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| 08:40.41 | jlp | ahh, I love movies.... |
| 08:41.02 | jlp | I'm watching "Epoch"... they're supposed to be flying in a C-130 |
| 08:41.39 | jlp | supposedly flying from the US to Tibet... in a C-130 |
| 08:42.03 | jlp | interior shots of the airplane are woefully inaccurate |
| 08:42.32 | jlp | and it's relatively quiet in the plane (at least, no one is wearing hearing protection) |
| 08:43.37 | jlp | so now they open the rear hatch in flight and the actors are walking around the open hatchway... no chutes, no safety cables |
| 08:43.57 | jlp | sometimes you have to just suspend your disbelief to enjoy a movie |
| 10:18.03 | xbmodder_lappy | heh |
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| 15:54.36 | bonez39 | any mailman gurus around today? I can't seem to get mail to make it to my list..I run a couple of them..and have one that includes all my email addresses ....no mail to the list reaches any of mine, and I assume no other recipients are getting the messages. |
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| 17:24.01 | bonez39 | macnewbold: howdy mac |
| 17:24.10 | macnewbold | morning, bonez39 |
| 17:25.08 | bonez39 | hi.....;) do you use Mailman? |
| 17:25.52 | bonez39 | just trying to figure out how to getit working again? I changed the Url FOR email and host..and now after altering mm_cfg.py ..now it wont' route email to anyone on any list it runs |
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| 17:41.20 | macnewbold | bonez39: sorry, I haven't ever administered mailman. |
| 17:52.23 | Jayce^ | http://www.comics.com/comics/sheldon/archive/sheldon-20041226.html |
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| 17:57.02 | hans | ~lart actiontec |
| 17:57.13 | jakea | well, I now know one more buzz word for UUG / PLUG |
| 17:57.21 | hans | wassat? |
| 17:57.54 | synic | that's it. I officially hate paypal/ebay |
| 17:57.59 | jakea | well see, we learned this semester to never say the words "Michael Moore" |
| 17:58.10 | jakea | now I also know not to say "Wal Mart" |
| 17:58.23 | hans | hehe |
| 17:58.36 | hans | people with a beef with walmart have serious issues with reality |
| 17:58.45 | vontrapp | hans: what's the status? |
| 17:58.58 | hans | called quest, they're sending a new one out tomorrow. |
| 17:59.00 | jakea | I'm not fond of Wal Mart, but I'm not using PLUG to vent my issues with it |
| 17:59.04 | hans | as in, it should arrive tomorrow |
| 17:59.29 | vontrapp | good thing you got that alternate mx set up, eh? |
| 17:59.29 | jakea | ;) |
| 17:59.56 | hans | vontrapp: yah. although a 2.5 day outage wouldn't cause problems even if we didn't have a backup mx |
| 18:00.51 | jakea | hans: I gots me IV and VI special Ed. DVDs for Christmas :) |
| 18:01.13 | hans | ST or SW? |
| 18:01.41 | vontrapp | i like ST IV |
| 18:01.54 | jakea | ST |
| 18:02.11 | jakea | I already got the CT for my birthday |
| 18:02.29 | jakea | CT = Classic Trilogy |
| 18:02.46 | jakea | or should I use OT |
| 18:03.03 | vontrapp | definately Classic |
| 18:03.05 | hans | I think it would be fun to set up a filter on the new plug server when we migrate the list, that puts a new header in: X-Off-Topic: ***** |
| 18:03.21 | vontrapp | that'd be great :) |
| 18:04.24 | vontrapp | jakea: from whence come these most appreciable gifts? |
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| 18:05.25 | jakea | they came from my brother-in-law who is the only one in the family who can actually use my Amazon.com wish list |
| 18:06.57 | hans | hehe |
| 18:07.09 | hans | I want the TNG seasons on DVD someday |
| 18:07.53 | jakea | I have 1st and 2nd season, but then my free amazon money ran out |
| 18:08.17 | jakea | the thing I really hate is how close they release everything |
| 18:09.06 | jakea | if they released on season per year, I would be able to actually save up and buy it, but releasing one every 3 months or so really makes it so one can't get any of them |
| 18:09.10 | jakea | +e |
| 18:12.08 | jakea | Now simpsons..... they release them far enough apart that I can actually save up to buy them |
| 18:13.26 | hans | so did everyone get cool toys? |
| 18:13.38 | jakea | :D |
| 18:14.01 | jakea | hans, are you into the Ship on the Line Calenders? |
| 18:14.08 | byronc | I got the pickaxe, 2nd edition, sweet book. |
| 18:14.57 | hans | umm, not sure what thems are |
| 18:15.06 | hans | byronc: LUCKY |
| 18:15.25 | Newsome | Seinfeld Seasons 1 & 2 |
| 18:16.16 | byronc | Newsome: did you get much snow in Chicago? |
| 18:16.36 | Newsome | Christmas day, we got maybe 1/2 inch |
| 18:17.02 | Newsome | but it did snow on Christmas day, though |
| 18:17.39 | byronc | sweet |
| 18:17.48 | jakea | hans: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/external-search/103-4337860-2979012?tag=startrekcom-20&keyword=star%20trek%20calendars&mode=books |
| 18:18.20 | jakea | oh,er, Ships OF the Line |
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| 18:41.53 | hans | can someone try to connect to listening vnc viewer at 204.96.22.196? |
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| 19:15.30 | bonez39 | hello spider |
| 19:16.18 | goozbach | I'm gonna have to buy them myself now. |
| 19:16.58 | Jayce^ | got 3 games, wife won't see me for quite a while now |
| 19:17.05 | Jayce^ | hl2, WoW, BFME |
| 19:17.11 | goozbach | ohh |
| 19:17.18 | goozbach | bfme? |
| 19:17.27 | Jayce^ | battle for middle earth |
| 19:17.30 | goozbach | ahh |
| 19:17.36 | Jayce^ | LoTR using the Generals engine |
| 19:17.36 | goozbach | mmorpg? |
| 19:17.43 | Jayce^ | RTS |
| 19:18.02 | Jayce^ | got an FPS, and MMORPG, and an RTS.. |
| 19:18.08 | Jayce^ | each of the 3 basic game groups :) |
| 19:18.14 | Jayce^ | gotta get my daily servings :) |
| 19:21.20 | goozbach | till my eyes bled |
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| 19:21.53 | goozbach | and by name even |
| 19:22.08 | Jayce^ | gotta love gaming like that |
| 19:22.48 | drewbono | I need a new SATA drive, and I'm looking between a Hitachi, Seagate and WD... |
| 19:23.00 | drewbono | Any experiences/recommendations anyone wants to share? |
| 19:23.11 | drewbono | Oh, and maybe Maxtor. |
| 19:23.24 | Jayce^ | seagate has 5 year warranties |
| 19:23.25 | goozbach | maxtor or Seagate |
| 19:23.27 | drewbono | I like the Seagate b/c of the 5 yr warranty, but it's more expensive |
| 19:23.38 | goozbach | I'd suggest the seagate |
| 19:23.54 | Jayce^ | not as expensive as buying a replacement drive in that timeframe |
| 19:23.54 | goozbach | run away from the WD drives |
| 19:24.19 | drewbono | WD stinks? |
| 19:24.23 | hans | heck yes |
| 19:24.32 | goozbach | in my experience, verymuchso |
| 19:24.46 | drewbono | And hitachi? |
| 19:24.57 | goozbach | I've had more WD drives fail than all the other makers together. |
| 19:24.59 | drewbono | I didn't even know they made desktop drives...I have a hitachi in my powerbook. |
| 19:28.27 | goozbach | I haven't noticed if I've used hitachi drives |
| 19:28.50 | goozbach | so that's either a good thing or not. depending |
| 19:29.48 | drewbono | :-) |
| 19:29.54 | drewbono | Gotcha. |
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| 19:37.06 | goozbach | any of you maintain a family website? |
| 19:37.11 | hans | yo |
| 19:37.36 | goozbach | you have any specific CMS running on it? |
| 19:37.58 | hans | I tried drupal once. nobody used it. It's all static stuff that doesn't change much now. |
| 19:38.14 | goozbach | I know that emcnabb has one |
| 19:38.40 | goozbach | I'd like it to be dynamic |
| 19:38.53 | goozbach | I'm looking at OpenACS (which I know) |
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| 19:45.55 | drewbono | Someone needs to write a good CMS for family sites. |
| 19:47.49 | macnewbold | drewbono: how's that different from "a good CMS" period? |
| 19:48.10 | macnewbold | what would a family-site CMS do differently? |
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| 19:48.24 | Mecworks | hola bbeattie |
| 19:48.32 | bbeattie | 'lo |
| 19:48.41 | Mecworks | did you see this? http://blog.mecworks.com/index.php?p=27 |
| 19:48.42 | bbeattie | que pasa? |
| 19:48.45 | drewbono | They're pretty close, but a family-site CMS needs a tighter integration with pictures/chat/etc... |
| 19:48.46 | Mecworks | nada |
| 19:49.04 | Mecworks | bbeattie, actually, I'm working on a mount for the new projector... |
| 19:49.15 | drewbono | macnewbold: Maybe something out there exists with those things, and I just haven't found it yet. |
| 19:49.34 | Mecworks | bbeattie, the cards shipped today. I imagine they will be here by the end of the week. |
| 19:49.37 | bbeattie | que reciebas por navidad? |
| 19:50.26 | Mecworks | k, I understood que and por... |
| 19:50.32 | bbeattie | I'm finishing a write-up for jack on start-finish for the cards and myth |
| 19:50.55 | Mecworks | cool. will the info be available in your howto? |
| 19:51.08 | bbeattie | New patch was accepted yesterday that auto creates the subchannels for all HD stations based on info from zap2it.. which was the last major pain in setting up myth for HD |
| 19:51.26 | bbeattie | recibir = to revieve |
| 19:51.38 | macnewbold | drewbono: I bet if you asked around in here or on The Lists, you'd hear back from a lot of people who are using one CMS or another for their family site |
| 19:51.39 | Mecworks | so, the HDTV streams are mpeg2 - right? so there's no encoding that needs to happen unless I receive NTSC dignals. |
| 19:51.42 | bbeattie | same site, I'll link to it from the howto |
| 19:51.47 | bbeattie | correct |
| 19:52.03 | bbeattie | toss the card in a 300mhz acting as a file share if you want. :) |
| 19:52.15 | drewbono | macnewbold: I'll give that a try. Do you already have one? |
| 19:52.29 | Mecworks | so, I should be ok with a low-powered machine (800 MHz) with an Nvidia card for the out? |
| 19:52.39 | macnewbold | :) no, not me. I believe I've seen one on thestays.org that belongs to jesse |
| 19:52.49 | macnewbold | I know I've seen others, but don't remember urls at the moment |
| 19:52.52 | bbeattie | eh, for display? that's not likely to give you good results. |
| 19:52.53 | hans | what's that about jack? |
| 19:53.09 | bbeattie | do you know Jack? ;) |
| 19:53.27 | hans | Jack rocks. :) |
| 19:53.46 | Mecworks | Jack the man or jack the sound system? |
| 19:54.02 | hans | I'm assuming he's talking about jackit.sf.net |
| 19:54.40 | bbeattie | Mecworks: you really need a 1.8ghz if using an nvidia geforce 440mx card or better to do the decoding of the mpeg2, X still needs over a gig and a half for handling the display window in X. For Myth, we highly recommend a p4 2.8ghz or faster, because if XvMC isn't working just right (which it isn't right now) you need 2.8ghz to do software decoding of 1080i. |
| 19:55.01 | bbeattie | I don't know Jack. ;) I'm just causing problems, sorry, it's been a long monday |
| 19:55.11 | goozbach | Jack the game? |
| 19:55.19 | goozbach | you don't know jack. |
| 20:01.12 | Mecworks | bbeattie, I have a Nvidia FX5700 LE. Don't know if it has an mpeg decoder on it or not... |
| 20:02.28 | Mecworks | looks like it might have one... |
| 20:02.42 | bbeattie | it does |
| 20:02.53 | bbeattie | pretty much any FX does. |
| 20:03.24 | bbeattie | 5200 and higher have good ones, the 4800 works, but 5200 is usually the most prefered cost/performance. |
| 20:03.37 | bbeattie | 5200's have DVI out on most cards and cost <$50 |
| 20:04.22 | Mecworks | cool |
| 20:04.31 | Mecworks | so it should work fairly well then? |
| 20:04.49 | bbeattie | on an 800mhz system? doubtful |
| 20:04.54 | Mecworks | hm. |
| 20:05.52 | bbeattie | With my 3 cards, and doing commercial detection on 3 shows at once, recording 3, and watching on already recorded I often had stuttering on a equiv (amd 2500)2.1ghz system. |
| 20:06.25 | Mecworks | I thought that the hardwre mpeg decoder was supposed to offset the CPU...so for decoding of 720p, what would I need as far as power is concerned? |
| 20:07.03 | bbeattie | With xine and XvMC doing live playback only his min specs are a 1.8ghz system as posted on his website, I think that's more luck if it works well for you there. |
| 20:07.04 | Mecworks | my proj does 720p native... |
| 20:07.30 | bbeattie | XvMC does the decoding of the mpeg2, but X still gets slammed for other non-mpeg2 displaying. |
| 20:07.39 | bbeattie | Nice, 3lcd? |
| 20:07.48 | Mecworks | yes |
| 20:08.15 | Mecworks | http://www.projectorcentral.com/Panasonic_Home-PT-AE700U.htm |
| 20:08.18 | bbeattie | :) I strongly, strongly recommend a 3.0ghz system for a good HD HTPC. |
| 20:08.38 | Mecworks | Display Type: 0.7" PolySi LCD (3) |
| 20:09.02 | bbeattie | *nods* |
| 20:09.20 | Mecworks | 1280x720 Pixels |
| 20:09.32 | Mecworks | (native res) |
| 20:09.42 | bbeattie | Those are nice low wattage projectors. |
| 20:09.58 | Mecworks | Maximum: 1920x1080 Pixels |
| 20:10.02 | bbeattie | I had to connect mine to a 520VA UPS to run when power goes out. You'd be fine with a typical office 350VA. |
| 20:10.21 | Mecworks | yes - I compared several models including several DLP projectors. |
| 20:10.21 | macnewbold | so for a HT setup, does a low priced proj work almost as well as a more expensive one, if you're not doing HD? |
| 20:10.27 | bbeattie | What's the lamp life? |
| 20:11.08 | Mecworks | 3-5k hours depending on use and how well you keep the filter clean. |
| 20:11.25 | bbeattie | eh, I'd have to say no, because when you enlange an image, you really need to clean it up so it isn't so ugly to look at. |
| 20:11.30 | Mecworks | macnewbold, yes. low priced projectors are getting _very_ good these days. |
| 20:11.42 | Mecworks | depends on the technology |
| 20:12.07 | bbeattie | Nice, my proj is 2k, with a hard timed timer, which I know how to reset if needs be. It's a 300Watt bulb though.. |
| 20:12.26 | Mecworks | my LCD has no screen-door effect and had a sharper picture than the two DLP projectors I had projecting the same data source on to the same screen. |
| 20:13.06 | macnewbold | how much should I be planning on paying for a decent low-cost projector? |
| 20:13.12 | Mecworks | it was nice of TV Specialists to set up the theater with several projectors so I could compare. |
| 20:13.27 | Mecworks | between 1500 and 3500 I would say. |
| 20:13.50 | bbeattie | If were getting a projector now, I would get that one hands down. I'd be curious to know what it's contrast ratio is now. That's what I love about my DLP. But more res is always nicer, no question about it.. My next purchase will be a 1080p DLP though. |
| 20:14.19 | Mecworks | although, if you don't mind 480p, the InFocus 4805 is really good. http://www.projectorcentral.com/InFocus_Home-ScreenPlay_4805.htm |
| 20:14.38 | macnewbold | ah, so these aren't the same as the $800-1000 ones I see advertised for projecting VGA from your laptop |
| 20:14.39 | Mecworks | street price on the 4805 is around 1200.00 |
| 20:15.08 | macnewbold | that's not too bad |
| 20:15.34 | bbeattie | I did a comparison at tv specialists with a 3lcd 720p projector ($15k one) and mine, and I really liked mine more because the contrast ratio made the picture look more sharp than the 3lcd with lower contrast ratio. But your is spec 2000/1 which is mine is reported spec, but I got about 1600/1 when I did tests. |
| 20:15.57 | Mecworks | right, these are home cinema projectors. usualy 16x9 aspect ratio, desinged for color and image quality. Most data projectors which are targeted as business are focused on brightness (for display and presentations of data). |
| 20:17.08 | Mecworks | bbeattie, cool. |
| 20:17.22 | bbeattie | 800x600 is good for NTSC. I would not recommend anything sub 1024x768 for HD, and I'm biast because that's what I have ;) If you want to do HD, you should consider something 1280x720. 1080i will be the only HD res you won't be able to do, and it's not much better in many areas - only still picturs. 720p will always look better for fast motion. |
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| 20:18.07 | bbeattie | my projector is a business one, but that's because all sharp's DLP's were business models. |
| 20:18.12 | Mecworks | true, especialy if you want to be able to do 720p native resoultion. You need at least 720 horizontal scan lines... |
| 20:18.25 | bbeattie | In 8 years I'll get another projector, and 1080p better be cheap by then. ;) |
| 20:18.36 | Mecworks | yup |
| 20:19.01 | bbeattie | 1920*1080 |
| 20:19.01 | bbeattie | 2073600 |
| 20:19.01 | bbeattie | 720*1280 |
| 20:19.01 | bbeattie | 921600 |
| 20:19.30 | bbeattie | Maybe we'll get lucky and have 2+M pixel projectors in 10 years. |
| 20:19.39 | Mecworks | BTW, I did test their Sony Qualia projector .... http://www.projectorcentral.com/Sony-Qualia-004.htm |
| 20:19.53 | bbeattie | Mecworks: how much disk space do you have to store HD recordings to? |
| 20:19.55 | Mecworks | and only $30,000.00 - what a bargain... |
| 20:20.16 | Mecworks | none at this time - will be getting discs as I have money... |
| 20:21.32 | bbeattie | 700w lamp, 980w total usage, shesh.. |
| 20:21.53 | Mecworks | bbeattie, so do you figure your current bulb will last you 8 years? 8^) |
| 20:22.02 | bbeattie | is that a 3dila projector? |
| 20:22.14 | bbeattie | well, in 2 years I've put on 240hours. |
| 20:22.38 | Mecworks | sounds good. I need to get a small television for normal, every-day viewing still. |
| 20:22.49 | bbeattie | My viewing will probably go up and down, I figure one bulb will last my 6-7 years. |
| 20:22.59 | bbeattie | how much are your bulbs? |
| 20:23.14 | Mecworks | about $350.00 |
| 20:23.35 | Mecworks | I am hoping that bulb prices come down with more people purchasing projectors for home. |
| 20:23.45 | bbeattie | with 3-5k hours on a lamp, that's good... Even at $350, a bulb ever 3-5 years isn't bad, and I doubt you watch > 1000 hours of TV a year. |
| 20:24.15 | bbeattie | My bulbs are sitting at $385 lately, used to be $420 a year ago, and I'm sure in 3-5 years they'll drop to sub 200 |
| 20:24.18 | Mecworks | the projector market is similar to the inkjet market wrt over priced bulbs/ink. |
| 20:25.25 | bbeattie | Mecworks: I'll have to come see your setup soon ;) |
| 20:25.59 | Mecworks | yea - that would be cool. |
| 20:26.03 | bbeattie | Mecworks: btw, how much disk space do you have for storing HD shows, and will you be buying a screen now? ;) |
| 20:26.17 | Mecworks | none at this time - will be getting discs as I have money... |
| 20:26.27 | Mecworks | today I'm painting a screen on my wall. |
| 20:26.31 | Mecworks | 8^) |
| 20:26.37 | bbeattie | ;) |
| 20:26.41 | Mecworks | flat white paint, black trim. |
| 20:26.48 | bbeattie | Did you read what paitn to use? avsforum.com |
| 20:26.53 | Mecworks | nope. |
| 20:26.56 | bbeattie | Eh, don't do flat white. |
| 20:27.00 | Mecworks | k |
| 20:27.05 | bbeattie | you need a grey tint. |
| 20:27.15 | Mecworks | right. that's what I figured. |
| 20:27.24 | Mecworks | I will neet to get it mixed... |
| 20:27.31 | bbeattie | white causes way too much reflection if there's any light in the room and you won't get good blacks. |
| 20:27.39 | Mecworks | k |
| 20:27.52 | Mecworks | is there a color listed at avsforum.com? |
| 20:28.30 | bbeattie | couple years ago I saw exact paint types, several different onces depending on how many ansi lumens your projector puts out, size of "screen", amount of ambient light, etc. |
| 20:30.03 | bbeattie | http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=4873695&highlight=paint+screen+color#post4873695 |
| 20:30.24 | bbeattie | nevermind |
| 20:31.25 | bbeattie | http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=487102&highlight=paint+screen |
| 20:32.47 | bbeattie | and better yet |
| 20:32.48 | bbeattie | http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=320794&highlight=misty+paint |
| 20:33.53 | Mecworks | yea, came up with the same results... |
| 20:36.07 | bbeattie | A painted wall can work, but I'm so glad I didn't do that. A screen does so much more than painting does for making the image look better. :-/ |
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| 21:07.16 | macnewbold | anyone want gmail invites? |
| 21:08.34 | Jayce^ | "Now don't start that again..." |
| 21:08.35 | Jayce^ | :) |
| 21:10.37 | hans | money that could be well spent on stuff best buy doesn't have. :( |
| 21:10.37 | Jayce^ | how much? |
| 21:10.37 | hans | 50 |
| 21:11.37 | Jayce^ | good speaker cables? |
| 21:11.40 | Jayce^ | movies? |
| 21:12.57 | hans | why can't people just give cash? |
| 21:13.16 | Jayce^ | it's not 'polite' is what my wife's family says |
| 21:13.38 | hans | whatever. giving me a gift certificate that I can't use to get what I want is less polite than cash. |
| 21:14.01 | Jayce^ | use it towards an ipod or something :) |
| 21:14.33 | hans | not that best buy doesn't have stuff I'd want, it's just that what I _really_ want (which nobody got me), I could use that $50 to get |
| 21:17.49 | hans | bach complete organ works CDs |
| 21:18.06 | mrpull | BB sells CDs |
| 21:18.14 | mrpull | does their online store have it? |
| 21:18.36 | hans | according to their website they don't have it (i.e. any of the many box set recordings by various people) |
| 21:18.46 | hans | but I'm still holding out hope they can order out |
| 21:20.27 | mrpull | i'd have to agree, it is annoying to get giftcards to a single store. |
| 21:20.40 | mrpull | I got a couple wallmart cards last year. |
| 21:21.19 | mrpull | (I won't start the wallmark sucks flame war again... i'll just say i shop there only as a last resort) |
| 21:21.41 | hans | it's a moral dilemna, it is. I got lots of cool stuff that I'm happy with, but all I really wanted was this box set. |
| 21:22.04 | hans | so I have to be grateful or feel guilty :) |
| 21:22.10 | mrpull | :) |
| 21:22.42 | hans | but I'd just as soon take their stuff back (well, except for the 2+2=5 thinkgeek shirt and the book lamp) and use the $$ to get what I wanted |
| 21:23.35 | Jayce^ | so do that, buy something, then take it back, and get the money |
| 21:23.36 | hans | oh, and the sunday shirt that actually fits me. that was a good one too. |
| 21:23.48 | Jayce^ | just make sure you can get the cash |
| 21:23.49 | hans | alas, most of the stuff was stuff ordered online |
| 21:23.58 | Jayce^ | just do that with the gift card |
| 21:24.06 | Jayce^ | go in, buy something, then return it |
| 21:24.12 | hans | that's a thought |
| 21:24.27 | hans | or, if they have something we're going to buy anyway just "transfer" the funds. |
| 21:24.33 | hans | i.e. if they have crib mattresses... |
| 21:24.57 | mrpull | i don't know about BB, but most stores won't let you get cash back for returns spent with other funds |
| 21:25.30 | hans | there's the disclaimer "unless prohibited..." so I'm wondering if by some small chance utah requires stores to redeem for cash |
| 21:25.32 | Jayce^ | some will if you have the receipt, but definately ask first |
| 21:25.36 | mrpull | yeah. let you wife spend the fifty bucks on something she wants then splurge with other money |
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| 22:01.10 | vontrapp | hans: what if you just buy something small, and keep the change |
| 22:01.24 | hans | doesn't work that way |
| 22:01.39 | vontrapp | they deduct from the card, eh? |
| 22:02.48 | vontrapp | Mecworks: how much was that discount for LUGers? |
| 22:04.14 | vontrapp | hans: what about a DVD±R/RW |
| 22:09.15 | Jayce^ | Mecworks, any word on getting hardware for the plug presentation? |
| 22:28.55 | vontrapp | what's this? an HD-3000 in a binary grab bag? |
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| 22:56.08 | rapsure | John Bytheway |
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| 23:01.42 | Mecworks | vontrapp, 5% |
| 23:02.03 | Mecworks | roughly $10 per card for the HD-3000 |
| 23:02.12 | Mecworks | Jayce^, need to look into it still... |
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| 23:23.16 | sjansen | Yay CGI:IRC! |
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