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| 00:07.45 | Maquis | ~lart jakea |
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| 00:48.30 | Maquis | 6 hours to go |
| 00:48.38 | tene | until what? |
| 00:48.44 | Maquis | (well, slightly more than that) |
| 00:48.45 | tene | is it judgement day already?! |
| 00:48.48 | Maquis | til my project's due |
| 00:48.53 | Maquis | yes... |
| 00:49.01 | Maquis | that will be judgement day |
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| 01:28.29 | tene | anyone want some fileing cabinets? |
| 01:32.04 | tene | you know, any time you guys want to make an offer and come pick up your stuff, you can. |
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| 02:47.00 | Maquis | grrrrrrrrr!!!!! |
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| 02:59.10 | |rufius| | mooooooooooo!!! |
| 02:59.17 | tene | ; What happen?! A20 gate turn on. |
| 02:59.17 | tene | ; Mask all IRQs for great justice. |
| 02:59.17 | tene | ; Take off every cursor position! |
| 02:59.18 | tene | ; You know what you are doing, launch protected mode. |
| 02:59.29 | |rufius| | lol what |
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| 03:08.55 | SpecialK | ~lart Maquis |
| 03:09.11 | Maquis | ~lart SpecialK |
| 03:09.20 | Maquis | STUPID SHELL!!! |
| 03:09.22 | tene | hey SpecialK, when are you going to make an offer and come get your stuff? |
| 03:10.04 | SpecialK | not sure when I'm headed up that way. |
| 03:10.20 | tene | or you could get someone else to pick it up |
| 03:10.59 | SpecialK | when is someone else headed up there? |
| 03:11.16 | SpecialK | I assume spr is getting his stuff? |
| 03:11.20 | tene | hopefully |
| 03:11.29 | tene | he still hasn't offered a price or suggested a time |
| 03:11.35 | Maquis | someone else is a cool guy |
| 03:11.41 | Maquis | good friend of mine... :) |
| 03:16.31 | Maquis | hmmmm |
| 03:27.41 | Maquis | ok... so, i'm having a problem with my shell lab thats due at midnight, and was wondering if anybody could shed some light on this for me |
| 03:27.49 | Maquis | we're writing a little shell |
| 03:28.25 | Maquis | for some reason, i'm not getting a sigchld signal when a program that ive forked dies, unless i force it with ctrl-c |
| 03:28.45 | Maquis | so, after every program, i have to ctrl-c to get control back to the shell |
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| 03:46.19 | jlp | SIGCHLD is normally ignored |
| 03:46.28 | Maquis | jlp: ?? |
| 03:46.34 | Maquis | i'm trying to catch it |
| 03:46.36 | Maquis | and it won't come |
| 03:46.44 | jlp | you're using trap? |
| 03:46.48 | jlp | sh, right? |
| 03:46.53 | jlp | not evil csh? |
| 03:47.01 | Maquis | no |
| 03:47.08 | jlp | ohohoh |
| 03:47.08 | Maquis | this is a shell we're writing for class |
| 03:47.12 | jlp | you're writing a shell |
| 03:47.15 | jlp | right |
| 03:47.16 | Maquis | we're using sigchld handlers |
| 03:47.27 | jlp | I remember seeing something like that go by on the channel a couple of days ago |
| 03:47.32 | Maquis | but /bin/ls isn't ending until i finally give it ctrl-c |
| 03:47.35 | Maquis | yes... |
| 03:47.40 | jlp | ok, so you're not seeing the SIGCHLD |
| 03:47.45 | Maquis | yeah |
| 03:49.00 | Maquis | i have a printf at the beginning of the sigchld_handler, but it doesnt get printed until i hit ctrl-c |
| 03:49.12 | jlp | I wrote one of these shell things back in 1985 or so for an OS class... trying to remember all the details |
| 03:49.34 | jlp | first, you shouldn't do anything that complicated in a signal handler |
| 03:49.47 | Maquis | anything how complicated? |
| 03:50.12 | jlp | pretty much anything that does anything |
| 03:50.23 | jlp | other than set a flag (or longjmp somewhere) |
| 03:50.28 | Maquis | the only reason i have the printf is so i can know when i'm getting in there |
| 03:50.55 | Maquis | and we have a few things we're supposed to be doing in the handler |
| 03:51.08 | jlp | I've got to run and pick my son up from work (he couldn't drive today because of pain medication for his abcessed tooth), but I'll be back in < 1h... will you still be here? |
| 03:51.18 | Maquis | oh yeah |
| 03:51.22 | Maquis | i'll be here til 12 |
| 03:51.26 | Maquis | (that's when it's due) |
| 03:51.28 | mheath | Eh, am I the youngest one here? |
| 03:51.32 | jlp | ok, if no one else has helped you, I'll try when I get back |
| 03:51.39 | Maquis | mheath: aside from xbmodder... |
| 03:51.41 | Maquis | k |
| 03:51.43 | Maquis | thanks a ton! |
| 03:51.51 | mheath | How old is xbmodder? |
| 03:51.58 | tene | mheath: how old are you? |
| 03:52.06 | mheath | I'm 15. |
| 03:52.09 | Maquis | xbmodder is almost 14 |
| 03:52.29 | Maquis | |rufius|: how old are you? |
| 03:52.57 | mheath | I've got to put together a powerpoint on C++ for some Java prgorammer guys at my school.. |
| 03:53.19 | mheath | I'm trying to get an independent game production group together, and Java is not a suitable language for that |
| 03:53.30 | mheath | Can anyone point me to some docs that would be good on the subject? |
| 03:55.34 | mheath | I'm pretty sure I can do a decent job, just looking for pointers on explaining C++ to Java coders |
| 03:56.07 | Maquis | doh! |
| 03:56.46 | tene | stupid java coders... |
| 03:59.46 | mheath | http://www.cs.brown.edu/courses/cs123/javatoc.shtml |
| 04:00.25 | Maquis | ~lart maquis for stupidity |
| 04:03.17 | mheath | cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp :) |
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| 04:16.46 | beandog | Slashdot's HTML is atrocious. |
| 04:17.46 | beandog | Someone should take an RSS feed and dump it into XHTML or something. |
| 04:32.00 | fozz | :-) |
| 04:33.30 | beandog | hee hee -- found this instead, great stuff: http://www.cs.washington.edu/homes/klee/misc/slashdot.html#reasons |
| 04:52.03 | |rufius| | Maquis: 17 |
| 04:52.26 | |rufius| | Maquis: why? |
| 04:53.21 | Maquis | |rufius|: mheath was trying to figure out if he's the youngest in the channel |
| 04:54.13 | |rufius| | ohi see |
| 04:54.13 | Maquis | and you and xbmodder were the only ones i could think of who were around his age... i thought you might be older than him, but i wasn't sure... |
| 04:54.13 | Maquis | :) |
| 04:55.05 | jlp | so Maq, what are you using to set up your signal handler? |
| 04:55.24 | Maquis | jlp: i found my problem while you were gone actually |
| 04:55.29 | jlp | ok, good :-) |
| 04:55.32 | Maquis | it was a stupid error... |
| 04:55.38 | jlp | they usually are :-D |
| 04:55.40 | Maquis | :) |
| 04:55.43 | Maquis | yeah... |
| 04:56.17 | jlp | someone used a dot instead of a comma one time and the rocket careened out of control and had to be destroyed (fortran program) |
| 04:56.28 | Maquis | ouch! |
| 04:57.09 | jlp | it was something like DO I=0,10000,5 but they put something like DO I=0,10000.5 |
| 04:57.36 | jlp | (essentially a for loop, they stepped by the default [1] instead of what they wanted) |
| 04:57.44 | Maquis | ick |
| 04:58.02 | jlp | caused a feedback loop in the control system, rocket got turned around, boom |
| 04:58.24 | jlp | you've probably seen the video clip at one time or another |
| 04:58.34 | jlp | (without an explanation of what happened) |
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| 05:05.06 | SpecialK | ~lart Maquis |
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| 05:20.53 | jlp | found a reference... http://catless.ncl.ac.uk/Risks/5.66.html#subj2 it's bogus, though, since the viking probes went to mars, and were great successes for that matter |
| 05:21.53 | jlp | here's another: http://catless.ncl.ac.uk/Risks/5.73.html#subj2 but it refers to a missing hyphen (not a dot vs. comma error) |
| 05:28.49 | jlp | ~lart fortran |
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| 05:36.21 | byronc | ~lart windows print spooler service |
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| 06:49.56 | goozbach | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:50.01 | goozbach | doh! |
| 06:51.43 | tene | rawr, goozbach. |
| 06:56.02 | goozbach | cool I'll kinda have a weekend this weekend |
| 06:57.44 | Maquis | |lart goozbach |
| 06:57.49 | Maquis | ~lart goozbach |
| 06:58.02 | tene | ~lart Maquis |
| 06:58.02 | Maquis | hans: we really need to get brigham back |
| 06:58.12 | Maquis | ~lart tene |
| 07:02.53 | SpecialK | ~lart everybody |
| 07:04.19 | goozbach | where's brigham? |
| 07:04.41 | SpecialK | ibot finally got him. |
| 07:04.50 | SpecialK | ~brigham |
| 07:04.51 | ibot | brigham: ibot? |
| 07:13.05 | ilovebees | the bummer is I don't reall want a computer job (programming, database, web) but they apparently are the only decent paying jobs I'm qualified for. All the good paying office jobs need office or accounting skills that I definitely don't have. |
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| 07:17.44 | Newsome | ~lart Centrino |
| 07:18.06 | Newsome | ~lart Centrino |
| 07:18.18 | Newsome | thank you, ibot. That's much better |
| 07:18.47 | Maquis | hi Newsome |
| 07:18.58 | Newsome | evening (or morning, I guess) |
| 07:20.36 | goozbach | all I want for christmas is a hot geeky girlfriend... |
| 07:20.41 | goozbach | is that too much to ask? |
| 07:20.55 | Newsome | No idea. Worked for me! |
| 07:25.38 | Maquis | hahaha |
| 07:26.35 | goozbach | ! a hot geeky girlfriend |
| 07:27.22 | goozbach | fozz fozz fozz... |
| 07:27.35 | Maquis | what'd fozz do? |
| 07:29.49 | goozbach | I mentioned I wanted to find a someone with which to celebrate the new year with a kiss... |
| 07:30.16 | goozbach | the next thing he says is: Fozz!: I'll talk to my wife. |
| 07:32.43 | Newsome | At bedtime, my little boy is quite free with bedtime kisses... I think that anyone present will get one... |
| 07:34.23 | SpecialK | Trying to remember where I was when the 3 year old would have had a fit if I didn't bend down and receive my kiss. |
| 07:35.42 | SpecialK | I'm probably in trouble. In a moment of weakness, I considered striking things back up with a girl who might oblige me in such matters. |
| 07:40.48 | goozbach | maybe I'll use my frequent flyer miles to go to NH for new years |
| 07:41.00 | Maquis | what's in NH? |
| 07:41.09 | Maquis | (that you would be going there for) |
| 07:41.12 | Newsome | sounds more like a who |
| 07:41.19 | Maquis | that too |
| 07:41.20 | goozbach | Newsome: hit it on the nose |
| 07:41.25 | Maquis | who? |
| 07:41.40 | goozbach | the waitress I picked up on at the bar during the birthday party |
| 07:42.07 | goozbach | too bad NH is so far away |
| 07:42.16 | Newsome | yeah, that sounds like a real winner |
| 07:42.20 | Newsome | :) |
| 07:45.30 | Newsome | Night, everyone. |
| 07:47.53 | fozz | heh heh. |