| 00:02.03 | sjansen | How did I get signed up for portugues spam? |
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| 00:07.45 | levi | sjansen: You signed up for that when you got your email address. |
| 00:16.56 | vontrapp | |lart byu |
| 00:17.01 | vontrapp | ~lart byu |
| 00:17.09 | Bradipo | I've certainly been getting a load of spam on my gmail account. |
| 00:17.14 | Bradipo | Which, by the way, I have never given out to anyone. |
| 00:18.20 | vontrapp | hmm, no email in my gmail account |
| 00:18.33 | vontrapp | don't know what you did, Bradipo |
| 00:19.03 | Bradipo | Me either. |
| 00:19.21 | Bradipo | But it has started showing up as some munged combination of bradio and some letters. |
| 00:19.40 | Bradipo | I have 18 in my Spam folder at the moment. |
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| 00:19.58 | Bradipo | Bradiodj, Bradioactive, Brad_owens, Bradios3, Brad_p169 |
| 00:20.10 | Bradipo | Bradion23, Bradoj1 |
| 00:20.14 | Bradipo | I like Bradioactive... |
| 00:20.24 | Bradipo | At least they are flagging them as spam. |
| 00:23.07 | vontrapp | freakin like the whole cs network was down or something |
| 00:23.19 | vontrapp | except that i was still connected with wireless |
| 00:23.30 | SpecialK | |lart abuse of the word "borrow" |
| 00:23.46 | SpecialK | ~lart abuse of the word "borrow" |
| 00:23.49 | vontrapp | SpecialK: can I borrow a few candy corns? |
| 00:24.02 | Maquis | Bradipo: i've just barely started getting spam in gmail... |
| 00:24.04 | SpecialK | sure, once I'm done with them. |
| 00:24.04 | Maquis | candy corn??? |
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| 00:40.17 | jakea | okay.... what's the point of having an ssh key if all it does is ask me for the passphrase every time I log in |
| 00:44.00 | Maquis | jakea: every time you login to the computer or to ssh? |
| 00:44.05 | Maquis | nm |
| 00:44.08 | jakea | ssh |
| 00:44.17 | Maquis | that was probably a stupid question |
| 00:44.30 | Maquis | yeah... that does sound rather annoying and like ti defeats the point |
| 00:44.45 | jakea | I'm like... it's asking for a passphrase... it's that just as good as asking for a password and still doesn't help me scp without a password |
| 00:45.38 | hans | jakea: well, it is good for more security, but that's probably not an issue |
| 00:45.57 | hans | you can use ssh-agent, or strip the password from your secret key |
| 00:46.13 | jakea | no, I want to have some backups mirrored on other computers, thus use scp in the scripts |
| 00:46.13 | hans | if you're gonna do ssh-agent, check out keychain |
| 00:46.25 | hans | the scripts can use the agent too |
| 00:46.39 | hans | but no password is probably what you want (e.g. in case of reboot) |
| 00:47.27 | jakea | I am correct in my understanding that using ssh-agent and ssh server is a bad thing? Or am I confusing that with something else |
| 00:52.56 | jakea | oh look plug archives.. |
| 00:53.30 | hans | no, i don't see how that would be a bad thing |
| 00:55.31 | jakea | something about.... if you run 'something' server, don't run the 'something-agent' server too |
| 00:56.34 | jakea | oh, I think it was an ftp client.... |
| 00:58.15 | Maquis | haha |
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| 01:07.10 | vontrapp | garh, friggin wireless issues |
| 01:07.25 | vontrapp | Maquis: where is the place to be for a good connection? |
| 01:10.52 | SpecialK | Talmadge, library, wilk |
| 01:11.40 | emcnabb | how's it going SpecialK? |
| 01:12.02 | SpecialK | just peachy, what are you up to these days emcnabb? |
| 01:12.44 | emcnabb | not much, just work |
| 01:12.50 | SpecialK | incidentally there is a high level of apathy concerning my classes built into that assessment. |
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| 01:16.38 | Maquis | vontrapp: in the tmcb? |
| 01:16.42 | Maquis | go downstairs |
| 01:16.57 | vontrapp | yeah, tmcb |
| 01:17.02 | Maquis | best i've found is actually in the downstairs windoze labs, although most of the downstairs seems pretty good |
| 01:17.10 | Maquis | 2nd floor is pretty good too |
| 01:19.58 | vontrapp | finally, mails working again |
| 01:24.51 | Maquis | SpecialK: apathy concerning classes??? |
| 01:24.54 | Maquis | never.... |
| 01:27.08 | SpecialK | actually, every semester, this is actually coming a week or two late. |
| 01:28.13 | Maquis | :) |
| 01:33.31 | SpecialK | So Haley was sorry that she was tired and not particularly talkative. |
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| 01:33.51 | SpecialK | whoops wrong window |
| 01:39.34 | vontrapp | ok, for some reason i can no longer mount usb drives |
| 01:39.42 | vontrapp | mount: /dev/sda1 is not a valid block device |
| 01:40.05 | vontrapp | it was working before, i've looked into it, but i have no idea what happened |
| 01:40.39 | vontrapp | any ideas? |
| 01:41.40 | vontrapp | usb-storage is loaded |
| 01:41.53 | vontrapp | scsi1 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices |
| 01:42.12 | vontrapp | NSI SCSI revision: 02 |
| 01:42.24 | vontrapp | USB Mass Storage device found at 3 |
| 01:42.28 | vontrapp | (from syslog) |
| 01:42.41 | vontrapp | but yet, no sda1 |
| 01:47.47 | vontrapp | can anyone hear me? or is my text just being sucked into some black hole? |
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| 02:03.28 | tene | sweet, I found the dongle for this pcmcia network adapter. |
| 02:05.39 | SpecialK | ! the dongle |
| 02:06.30 | tene | you want the pcmcia card to go with it? |
| 02:06.39 | SpecialK | sure |
| 02:06.54 | SpecialK | you can never have enough NIC's |
| 02:06.59 | tene | oh really? |
| 02:07.04 | tene | I've got a few boxes full. |
| 02:07.05 | tene | Want 'em? |
| 02:07.13 | SpecialK | only a couple |
| 02:07.34 | SpecialK | especially if they're not PCMCIA |
| 02:07.45 | tene | I've only got one pcmcia |
| 02:08.50 | tene | but yeah, if you really want it, you can have it for whatever you want to give me for it |
| 02:09.00 | tene | I've got a *lot* of stuff I'm trying to get rid of |
| 02:09.20 | tene | hardware |
| 02:10.00 | tene | although in the box I'm going through right now, I found some software that some people might be interested in. |
| 02:11.21 | tene | but yeah, I haven't posted any lists online yet, so if you want it you've got it. |
| 02:11.40 | tene | and I'm gonna go back out for a while to do more sorting |
| 02:15.18 | SpecialK | I have too much hardware kicking around, but I could really use a PCMCIA nic |
| 02:20.25 | tene | Wow, I just went from one box of cables to three boxes of cables. |
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| 02:20.54 | beandog | amcnabb, you around |
| 02:21.07 | tene | SpecialK: you going to want a spool of cat5 to go with it? |
| 02:21.17 | beandog | :) |
| 02:21.37 | SpecialK | sure, more could never hurt. |
| 02:22.09 | SpecialK | I asked for crimpers for Christmas, but I doubt anybody would figure out what they are. |
| 02:22.11 | spr | tene, you giving out cat5 cable? |
| 02:22.18 | tene | ooo... this ram is in an antistatic bag. It might be still good. |
| 02:22.37 | tene | SpecialK: what about three big bags of cat5 ends? |
| 02:22.49 | tene | spr: trying to get rid of a bunch of hardware. |
| 02:22.59 | SpecialK | enough ends to go with the cable would be great. |
| 02:23.17 | spr | tene, We're looking for some cat5 cable here at our apt. |
| 02:23.45 | tene | I'm not sure how much cable this spool has, but I suspect that the next box I'm going through has a bunch. |
| 02:23.53 | SpecialK | If I get a longer cord, I can run it along the ceiling and no one will trip on it anymore and unseat my NIC. |
| 02:24.47 | tene | so you want a hub to go with that cable? |
| 02:25.50 | spr | nah. just the cable would be fine |
| 02:26.07 | tene | what about you, SpecialK? |
| 02:27.04 | amcnabb | beandog: Yeah, I'm around. |
| 02:27.16 | amcnabb | What's new? |
| 02:27.32 | SpecialK | what size hub? |
| 02:27.41 | tene | SpecialK: what size you want? |
| 02:27.59 | tene | I've got an 8+uplink here |
| 02:28.05 | tene | and then a much bigger one, lemme count |
| 02:28.07 | SpecialK | I have a CISCO superstack that I hoped was a router when I picked it up. |
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| 02:28.21 | SpecialK | I actually want a small hub |
| 02:28.49 | tene | lemme grab it and estimate the size |
| 02:29.47 | SpecialK | not a router, but a switch. |
| 02:29.58 | tene | I've got a 5-port switch |
| 02:30.04 | SpecialK | yes! |
| 02:30.13 | tene | SoHoWare |
| 02:30.33 | SpecialK | we don't have that many computers |
| 02:30.50 | SpecialK | and if I need to then I can cart the superstack around. |
| 02:30.54 | tene | that hub wasn't where I thought it was, all I could find there was a DSL modem |
| 02:31.07 | tene | which means that the hub is probably underneath those motherboards |
| 02:31.40 | SpecialK | I could use a video card too. . . |
| 02:31.52 | SpecialK | where did you get all of this stuff? |
| 02:31.57 | tene | I've got a sack of video cards |
| 02:32.07 | tene | unless you need something new/nice |
| 02:32.15 | tene | these are all kinda old/notsogood |
| 02:32.19 | tene | where? |
| 02:32.29 | tene | My father's business that failed a few years ago. |
| 02:32.55 | tene | the highest res any vid card I have could probably do is 1024x768 |
| 02:33.04 | tene | that work for your purposes? |
| 02:33.28 | SpecialK | yes, I'm about to part out my old computer. |
| 02:33.51 | SpecialK | set it up for my parents so they can do genealogy. |
| 02:34.04 | SpecialK | and use many parts in my new rig. |
| 02:34.21 | SpecialK | where do I get these from you? |
| 02:34.30 | tene | do you want me to find and list them, or do you just want to pick from the bag when you get your stuff? |
| 02:35.23 | tene | well, I could ship them to you, or you could drive out here, or I could drive out there |
| 02:35.33 | tene | but I'm not going to drive out there unless I've got a lot of people that want stuff |
| 02:35.42 | spr | tene, where are you? |
| 02:35.48 | tene | Taylorsville. |
| 02:36.11 | tene | which is in the Murray/Kearns area, about 15 minutes south of SLC |
| 02:36.21 | tene | about 40 minutes north of Provo |
| 02:36.33 | spr | i see. Hm...I think i can arrange something. |
| 02:37.21 | SpecialK | I have family up north. I'll go up after finals. |
| 02:37.24 | tene | how much cat5 are you gonna need, spr? |
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| 02:38.05 | tene | heya, sjansen. |
| 02:38.10 | tene | sjansen: want a spool of coax? |
| 02:39.09 | spr | tene, how much you got :) amcnabb and I make our own cable as we need it. That and some new cable for isntallfests would be nice |
| 02:39.33 | amcnabb | tene: I like coax. |
| 02:39.36 | amcnabb | :) |
| 02:41.37 | emcnabb | wow, amcnabb on some form of interactive chat |
| 02:43.31 | amcnabb | :) |
| 02:45.00 | tene | gah.. something stinks in that box... mice probably got into it |
| 02:48.34 | tene | got a few keyboard-video switches |
| 02:49.43 | tene | bunch of power strips |
| 02:49.48 | tene | box of power supplies |
| 02:49.51 | tene | cases |
| 02:50.34 | tene | jet-direct box |
| 02:51.13 | tene | this box is mainly power, network, and paralell cables |
| 02:55.10 | SpecialK | the video switch might be nice. |
| 02:56.12 | tene | that one has a cash register, a fax machine, and a spider. not very interesting. |
| 03:01.23 | emcnabb | Alan Cox: "I learned a lot there (more from my own experiments and trying to achieve things than from the course), but because of the other courses you had to pass (Physics in my case) ended up changing university to one that didn't require I could do physics but required I could do computer science." |
| 03:01.35 | emcnabb | ah, we have something in common |
| 03:01.44 | emcnabb | a hate of physics |
| 03:07.18 | Maquis | tene: i might put in an order for some things |
| 03:07.35 | Maquis | and have specialk (or anyone else who is headed that way) pick it up for me :) |
| 03:08.27 | sjansen | Physics haters unite! |
| 03:09.14 | tene | drive bay covers, mounting brackets, filing cabinets, external modems... |
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| 03:10.16 | markl_ | Jayce^: finally!! |
| 03:11.10 | tene | hard drives, power supplies, power strips, drive rails |
| 03:11.17 | tene | a box full of old ram |
| 03:11.20 | tene | speakers |
| 03:11.33 | tene | sound cards |
| 03:11.40 | tene | motherboards |
| 03:11.52 | tene | old monitors |
| 03:13.03 | tene | Maquis: want a pci video card and another one? |
| 03:13.10 | Maquis | tene: are you charging for these things? and if so, how much? |
| 03:13.14 | tene | well |
| 03:13.37 | tene | what I'm asking for |
| 03:13.49 | tene | is at least shipping cost, if you want me to ship it to you |
| 03:14.03 | tene | and just whatever you want to give me beyond that |
| 03:14.14 | tene | whatever you consider reasonable |
| 03:14.18 | mheath | tene, I could use some of that stuff! |
| 03:14.31 | mheath | How big are the hard drives? |
| 03:14.49 | tene | I think they're all <10GB |
| 03:15.08 | mheath | Great! My biggest hard drive is 4 GB :) |
| 03:15.33 | mheath | What kind of motherboards? And do you have any procs that go with them? |
| 03:15.45 | tene | procs... not so many |
| 03:15.46 | tene | but a few |
| 03:16.03 | tene | maybe five to ten that I know of |
| 03:16.10 | mheath | What are the specs? Anything better than my 450 Mhz PII? |
| 03:16.24 | tene | Yeah, I think I've got a 600mhz something |
| 03:16.34 | tene | I've got some pretty nice motherboards |
| 03:16.45 | tene | onboard sound, video, network, usb, etc. |
| 03:17.01 | mheath | What kind of chipsets? They Linux compatible? |
| 03:17.05 | tene | yeah |
| 03:17.12 | tene | I'm using one in my music-playing box |
| 03:17.17 | mheath | What area of Utah do you live in? |
| 03:17.18 | tene | that I built out of these parts |
| 03:17.23 | tene | Taylorsville |
| 03:17.34 | tene | which is Murray/Kearns area |
| 03:17.42 | tene | about 15-20 minutes south of SLC |
| 03:17.44 | mheath | Hmm, thats too far away for me to pick it up.. |
| 03:17.57 | mheath | (I'm a drivers-license-less highschool student) |
| 03:18.00 | emcnabb | http://www-1.ibm.com/press/PressServletForm.wss?TemplateName=ShowPressReleaseTemplate&SelectString=t1.docunid=7450 |
| 03:18.03 | tene | mheath: it sounds like a few people are going to arrange for one person to drive and pick up stuff for all of them |
| 03:18.07 | emcnabb | it's now official |
| 03:18.33 | mheath | How much would you want for that 600 Mhz proc, a compatible motherboard, and a hard drive? |
| 03:19.02 | tene | I have no idea what would be reasonable or appropriate, mheath. |
| 03:19.10 | tene | Make an offer. |
| 03:19.59 | mheath | What kind of proc is it? |
| 03:20.08 | tene | dunno |
| 03:20.22 | tene | That's just the fastest that I think I have around |
| 03:20.27 | tene | I'd have to go find one. |
| 03:20.49 | mheath | Gah, it sucks not having a job. I'll have to see what money I can scrounge up.. |
| 03:20.52 | tene | I've got a bunch of cases with unknown contents still to go through |
| 03:21.02 | mheath | Maybe....$20? Or is that too low? |
| 03:21.08 | mheath | er |
| 03:21.09 | mheath | $30 |
| 03:21.33 | Maquis | emcnabb: you around? |
| 03:21.42 | tene | no clue. I bet Maquis would know an appropriate price, though. |
| 03:21.50 | tene | 'cause Maquis knows everything. |
| 03:22.03 | Maquis | ummm.. |
| 03:22.08 | Maquis | i haven't the slightes |
| 03:22.08 | Maquis | t |
| 03:22.17 | Maquis | check onilne and see what they're going for... |
| 03:22.27 | tene | I hereby designate Maquis to be the official price decider. |
| 03:22.39 | Maquis | i hereby claim that everything is free? |
| 03:22.47 | mheath | tene, you said people were running down there to get stuff for everyone.. |
| 03:22.48 | tene | and now I go to pick somebody up to help me sort things into boxes. |
| 03:23.02 | tene | mheath: I said that I think that someone might be arranging that. |
| 03:23.07 | mheath | I'm in the Ogden area, though, and I'm guessing they're not from there. |
| 03:23.15 | tene | they're Provo area. |
| 03:23.27 | mheath | Eh. Looks like I'm out of luck, then |
| 03:23.31 | mheath | Thanks anyway |
| 03:23.35 | tene | 'kay |
| 03:24.11 | tene | although there's always shipping |
| 03:24.19 | mheath | Hopefully I'll get some new hardware for christmas, and this thing will move from being my desktop to being my server |
| 03:24.22 | tene | or I could come up with a price for driving to ogden |
| 03:24.35 | tene | or I could just do it anyway |
| 03:24.57 | mheath | tene, don't worry about it. I don't have the money to pay you for driving up here |
| 03:25.01 | tene | well |
| 03:25.07 | tene | I'll see what I can find for you. |
| 03:25.11 | mheath | I'll get some new hardware at the beginning of next summer, anyway |
| 03:25.18 | tene | 'kay |
| 03:25.31 | mheath | Our school district sometimes holds sales (They did last year and the year before...) |
| 03:25.39 | tene | I always feel odd asking people for money for things. |
| 03:25.41 | mheath | Slightly-old hardware, at dirt cheap prices |
| 03:26.02 | tene | and I've gotta go pick up an extra pair of hands for sorting. |
| 03:26.12 | mheath | $10 for everything |
| 03:26.30 | mheath | (Everything ranging from Apple IIe's to Pentium 3's) |