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| 02:17.09 | sjansen | I would just like to mention that I got the email from BYU about finals |
| 02:17.24 | sjansen | but I won't be taking any finals because I'm finished with college! |
| 02:17.35 | Maquis | |lart sjansen |
| 02:19.25 | Maquis | ~whimper |
| 02:19.26 | ibot | ACTION huddles in the corner, whimpering softly. |
| 02:21.38 | sjansen | Maquis: Why aren't you sleeping? |
| 02:22.04 | Maquis | cuz i have stuff that needs to get done |
| 02:22.10 | Maquis | cuz i'm still a student :-P |
| 02:23.08 | sjansen | bah |
| 02:44.33 | sjansen | http://www.thaifoodandtravel.com/features/wok1.html |
| 02:44.40 | sjansen | interesting |
| 02:45.07 | sjansen | "A precious wok is one that has seen lots of use and experienced little scrubbing." |
| 02:45.27 | Maquis | :) |
| 02:45.33 | Maquis | it's like a komal (spl?) |
| 02:45.40 | Maquis | you're not supposed to wash it... |
| 02:45.45 | Maquis | (i'm assuming a wok is the same way) |
| 02:58.39 | Maquis | ok.. |
| 02:58.58 | Maquis | quick question (before i mess up a newbie's computer) |
| 02:59.24 | Maquis | 'ln -s /dev/cdrom /dev/dvd' will make a symbolic link at /dev/dvd that points to /dev/cdrom, right? |
| 02:59.36 | sjansen | yeah |
| 02:59.39 | Maquis | k |
| 02:59.42 | Maquis | just checking |
| 03:06.01 | Maquis | poor gloria... comes to me for help getting her dvd player working |
| 03:06.52 | Maquis | i don't know how to do anything from the gui, so she ends up getting a bit of extra experience on the command-line |
| 03:07.11 | sjansen | Good for her. |
| 03:07.16 | Maquis | yes... |
| 03:07.33 | Maquis | unfortunately, i'm honestly not certain why it's refusing to play dvds... |
| 03:07.39 | Maquis | i'm making some wild guesses here... |
| 03:08.04 | Maquis | i tried to fix xine for her about 2 or 3 weeks ago, and failed miserably |
| 03:08.10 | sjansen | Did I mention I smile every time I see the name Gloria? Reminds me of Brazilian Crente. |
| 03:08.20 | Maquis | i think you did mention that actually |
| 03:08.27 | Maquis | she's really cool |
| 03:09.03 | Maquis | her start with linux was very unusual... |
| 03:09.32 | Maquis | windoze completely crashed on her, and when she called into oit, the guy there had her boot into dos mode, and do things that way... |
| 03:09.50 | Maquis | she was very excited at this concept, and the guy on the other end could tell and mentioned linux to her |
| 03:10.20 | Maquis | she came to me the next day in chinese class (three days before the september installfest) and asked if i had ever heard of this thing called linux |
| 03:10.33 | Maquis | then she asked if i knew anybody who could help her get it installed on her computer... |
| 03:10.44 | Maquis | i mentioned the installfest... |
| 03:12.25 | Maquis | sjansen: you ever seen this: |
| 03:12.28 | Maquis | error opening/initializing the selected video_out (-vo) device |
| 03:12.33 | tene_ | Maquis: think of 'ln' like 'cp' |
| 03:12.35 | Maquis | oh wait a sec... |
| 03:12.39 | tene_ | except that the copy is a link |
| 03:12.53 | tene_ | that's how I remember the argument order. |
| 03:13.01 | Maquis | tene_: yeah... i've forgotten the -s a couple times before though... |
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| 03:13.22 | Maquis | sjansen: did you see my question? |
| 03:13.31 | sjansen | think I missed part of it |
| 03:13.31 | kpettit | lo |
| 03:13.40 | sjansen | loer |
| 03:13.48 | tene_ | eth0 |
| 03:13.53 | Maquis | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:14.12 | Maquis | and i just checked and she does have a dvd in |
| 03:14.32 | Maquis | (although i suppose that would be the video_in device) |
| 03:14.41 | tene_ | -vo is the display driver |
| 03:14.51 | Maquis | mk |
| 03:15.05 | sjansen | chroot /mnt/gentoo/ linux32 chroot /mnt/gentoo32 env DISPLAY=:0 XAUTHORITY=/home/sjansen/.Xauthority su - sjansen |
| 03:15.28 | Maquis | sjansen: ???? |
| 03:15.35 | sjansen | uff-DA that's one heck of a command just to get into my 32bit gentoo environment |
| 03:15.40 | Maquis | oh |
| 03:15.44 | Maquis | ok... |
| 03:15.52 | Maquis | any ideas on how to fix the video_out device? |
| 03:16.07 | sjansen | select a different one? |
| 03:16.25 | sjansen | sdl, xvideo, etc. |
| 03:16.32 | Maquis | ??? |
| 03:17.31 | sjansen | IF the problem is related to the error, then she needs to try using a different video out driver. |
| 03:17.31 | Maquis | hmmm... |
| 03:17.47 | Maquis | she says that she just decided randomly to try xine again, and this time it worked |
| 03:17.56 | sjansen | What distro is this? Could just be that she doesn't have a build with DeCSS support. |
| 03:17.58 | Maquis | (i'm asking what she did) |
| 03:18.03 | Maquis | sjansen: fc3... |
| 03:18.16 | Maquis | i installed libdvdcss for her last time i was trying to fix things... |
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| 03:19.36 | Maquis | well, i guess it's not an issue anymore |
| 03:20.22 | Maquis | i almost told her to emerge something... |
| 03:20.44 | Maquis | sjansen: why do you think your gentoo installs have become corrupted? |
| 03:21.19 | sjansen | KEYWORDS foolishness and 32bit environment uncleanliness -- basically, mistakes made while getting back into the swing of things |
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| 03:22.34 | Maquis | tensai: :) |
| 03:22.35 | Maquis | sup? |
| 03:30.27 | tensai | |lart Maquis |
| 03:30.38 | Maquis | sporks? |
| 03:31.00 | tensai | spoons with prongs |
| 03:31.32 | Maquis | yes... i know that... but how does one spork someone? |
| 03:31.57 | tensai | as hard as one can? |
| 03:34.37 | Maquis | ah |
| 03:44.08 | spr | SPOON! |
| 03:44.17 | Maquis | ??? |
| 03:44.36 | spr | you've never seen/read The Tick, have you? |
| 03:44.43 | tensai | sheesh, Maquis. do you eat with your hands? |
| 03:44.52 | Maquis | no... |
| 03:44.53 | sjansen | SPOON!! |
| 03:45.09 | tensai | a spoon is a utensil, commonly used for eating soup |
| 03:45.18 | Maquis | |lart tensai |
| 03:45.26 | sjansen | tensai: wrong, spoon is a battle cry |
| 03:45.28 | spr | A battlecry to strike fear into the hearts of my enemies... |
| 03:45.35 | Maquis | question... what colorschemes do people use for vim/gvim? |
| 03:45.49 | sjansen | gvim: desert, vim: default |
| 03:45.58 | tene_ | both: desert |
| 03:46.09 | Maquis | hmmm |
| 03:46.20 | sjansen | tene_: according to its designer, desert only works in gvim |
| 03:46.34 | tene_ | sjansen: according to me, it works fine in vim |
| 03:46.54 | sjansen | Maquis: Who you gonna believe, hans or tene_ ? |
| 03:47.02 | Maquis | i've been working on a colorscheme of my own, but i'm just not satisfied with it, so i'm looking through a whole bunch of others, but i'm just not finding what i want |
| 03:47.09 | Maquis | i think the problem is that i don't know what i want' |
| 03:47.21 | sjansen | ~lart tene_ for thinking spoon is a utensil |
| 03:47.21 | Maquis | sjansen: i'll believe hans when he comes in and solves the dispute :) |
| 03:47.38 | tene_ | sjansen: what do you mean 'not work'? |
| 03:47.49 | tensai | |lart sjansen for not being careful with the tab completion |
| 03:47.52 | sjansen | Whatever hans meant. |
| 03:47.58 | tene_ | gah |
| 03:48.01 | tene_ | sorry |
| 03:48.07 | tene_ | hans: what do you mean 'not work'? |
| 03:48.25 | brailsmt | and OOoOOooOoOOOoOOOoOOo |
| 03:48.29 | brailsmt | :) |
| 03:48.30 | sjansen | ~lart tensai for thinking spoon is a utensil |
| 03:48.34 | tene_ | when I tell vim 'colorscheme desert', the scheme of colors changes. |
| 03:48.51 | tene_ | that sure seems like it 'works' to me. |
| 03:49.24 | sjansen | *shrug* When faced with the chose of disbelieving hans or reality, I choose to disbelieve reality. |
| 03:49.39 | brailsmt | deseret is ok, midnight2 is better :) |
| 03:49.50 | brailsmt | </slightly biased opinion> |
| 03:50.23 | brailsmt | did i just write "deseret"? |
| 03:50.28 | brailsmt | hrm... i meant desert |
| 03:50.34 | Maquis | brailsmt: i was just wondering if you had written that too |
| 03:50.34 | brailsmt | or even dessert |
| 03:50.40 | Maquis | midnight2? |
| 03:50.59 | brailsmt | yes i did |
| 03:51.52 | spr | Maquis, I like midnight2 |
| 03:52.13 | Maquis | i dunno... i might give it a spin... |
| 03:52.19 | Maquis | it's one of the better ones i've seen so far |
| 03:52.29 | spr | with terminus as the font |
| 03:52.35 | Maquis | definitely better than "midnight" |
| 03:52.46 | brailsmt | yeah midnight blows |
| 03:52.52 | spr | (in gvim), of course using schumaner clean for vim |
| 03:53.02 | Maquis | that's a hideous background for midnight |
| 03:53.12 | Maquis | spr: schumaner clean? |
| 03:55.52 | spr | schumacher-clean-medium-r-*-*-10-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1 |
| 03:56.06 | Maquis | ??? |
| 03:56.08 | spr | err, actually that is: |
| 03:56.17 | spr | -schumacher-clean-medium-r-*-*-12-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1 |
| 03:56.28 | Maquis | that looks like it's just a font.... am i right about that? |
| 03:56.34 | spr | start xfontsel |
| 03:56.48 | spr | it'll guide you through the unix font selection process |
| 03:56.58 | Maquis | oh... |
| 03:57.02 | Maquis | but it's not a colorscheme? |
| 03:57.27 | spr | nope, techincally my colorscheme in vim (console, not gvim) is bg=dark |
| 03:57.29 | sjansen | Pango all the way, baby. |
| 03:57.45 | spr | sjansen, what is this "pango" that you speak of? |
| 03:58.02 | brailsmt | pango is a old school computer game |
| 03:58.07 | sjansen | The font rendering core of Gnome that wraps Freetype. |
| 03:58.39 | sjansen | It uses sane names like Schaumacher Clean Medium Bold 12. |
| 03:58.47 | brailsmt | i see |
| 03:59.13 | sjansen | Because gvim uses pango on Linux, you specify fonts that way. |
| 03:59.36 | spr | oh, yeah, that's for things outside the terminal. (well, real terminals anyways) |
| 03:59.39 | sjansen | Although you'd want to drop the Bold to match spr's example. |
| 04:00.01 | sjansen | There is no terminal but gnome-terminal and Havoc is its creator. |
| 04:00.25 | spr | ~praise aterm |
| 04:00.28 | ibot | All hail aterm! |
| 04:01.01 | sjansen | You poor, misguided soul. I would pity you, but you love the Tick and Red Green so you're doing okay. |
| 04:01.48 | spr | Don't forget Red Dwarf. |
| 04:02.23 | Maquis | spr: aterm? |
| 04:03.02 | sjansen | Maquis: listen not to senseless ramblings |
| 04:03.24 | Maquis | sjansen: i listen to all ramblings... and then i decide which ones to actually act on |
| 04:03.26 | spr | Maquis, I believe it's "afterstep" terminal. It's a quick build in gentoo: "emerge aterm" |
| 04:03.55 | sjansen | Sweet is the siren song of the aterm but corrupt you it will. |
| 04:04.37 | sjansen | That took like, less than an hour with other compiles too. |
| 04:06.10 | spr | mozilla: merge time: 1 hour, 29 minutes, and 11 seconds |
| 04:06.29 | spr | firefox: merge time: 1 hour, 25 minutes, and 43 seconds |
| 04:07.51 | sjansen | spr: My laptop kicks your laptops trash. |
| 04:08.10 | sjansen | spr: My laptop would crush your laptop if it sat on it. |
| 04:08.37 | sjansen | spr: My screen thinks of your screen as a porthole. |
| 04:10.13 | Maquis | sjansen: i still think mine's the best |
| 04:12.11 | sjansen | ~hug vim |
| 04:12.13 | ibot | ACTION hugs vim |
| 04:12.23 | Maquis | |praise vim |
| 04:12.34 | Maquis | that's not a praise! |
| 04:12.53 | Maquis | |rmpraise forces <who> to use Debian |
| 04:12.53 | brigham | can do! |
| 04:12.59 | Maquis | |praise vim |
| 04:13.16 | Maquis | |rmpraise forces $who to use Gentoo |
| 04:13.16 | brigham | aight |
| 04:13.19 | Maquis | |praise vim |
| 04:14.16 | jtate | Hmm. Two bots in one channel might be too much. |
| 04:14.46 | spr | too late for that |
| 04:14.50 | Maquis | jtate: what's wrong with that? |
| 04:15.56 | jtate | Maquis: I just finished watching the Happiest Millionare... |
| 04:16.09 | jtate | Funny you should say "What's wrong with that?" |
| 04:16.15 | Maquis | ??? |
| 04:16.21 | Maquis | sjansen: which old gentoo ways? |
| 04:16.29 | sjansen | I had to finally walk away from gentoo I got so addicted to compiling. |
| 04:16.40 | jtate | I take it you've never seen it? |
| 04:16.45 | jtate | Quite a good movie. |
| 04:16.56 | sjansen | Here I am, 9:20 at night, tired and ready to go home. But NOOOO, just one more compile. |
| 04:17.01 | sjansen | And just one more compile. |
| 04:17.12 | Maquis | haha |
| 04:17.41 | jtate | Anyway. One would suppose that one bot could do *all* of the annoying, but no, you evidently aren't annoyed enough by a single bot. |
| 04:17.58 | sjansen | ~lart jtate |
| 04:18.01 | sjansen | |lart jtate |
| 04:18.16 | jtate | My point exactly. |
| 04:19.21 | Maquis | |lart jtate for thinking that 2 bots is too many |
| 04:19.34 | Maquis | mmmmmm.... cheese.... |
| 04:19.36 | jtate | Mmm. I like cheese. |
| 04:25.42 | Maquis | :) |
| 04:26.11 | sjansen | Are there any good etc-update guis? |
| 04:26.48 | spr | vimdiff? |
| 04:26.59 | Maquis | spr: how do i get it to use vimdiff? |
| 04:30.40 | spr | /etc/etc-update.conf |
| 04:30.57 | spr | heck, if you want you can use gvim diff |
| 04:31.08 | Maquis | hmmmm... |
| 04:33.35 | sjansen | vimirc?! |
| 04:34.11 | torriem | Though only emacs was its own operating system. Soon vim will be self-aware too. |
| 04:34.30 | Maquis | hopefully vim won't develop a psychiatrist |
| 04:34.45 | sjansen | I hear good things about vim7. |
| 04:34.55 | Maquis | ok |
| 04:35.11 | Maquis | so i went through all the various vim colorschemes... |
| 04:35.21 | Maquis | and didn't quite find what i'm looking for |
| 04:35.29 | sjansen | "The Linux Journal magazine does a Readers' Choice Award every year. For the fourth time in a row Vim was selected the favorite text editor! Vi and clones came second, GNU Emacs third." |
| 04:36.05 | Maquis | i found a number that are similar to what i'm looking for, but not quite |
| 04:36.07 | sjansen | torriem: "The BOF session at SANE 2004 was a big success. About 40 to 50 Vim users attended. Subjects discussed were intelligent completion..." |
| 04:39.23 | torriem | Awesome! |
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| 06:07.21 | xbmodder | hey |
| 06:07.34 | xbmodder | Maquis, guess what? |
| 06:07.39 | Maquis | what? |
| 06:09.13 | xbmodder | actually... |
| 06:09.19 | Maquis | ?? |
| 06:09.20 | xbmodder | never mind |
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| 06:09.33 | xbmodder | though it was cool /me is to bored |
| 06:09.48 | xbmodder | to make it into a story that makes sense |
| 06:10.07 | Maquis | amcnabb: sup? |
| 06:10.24 | xbmodder | :) |
| 06:16.02 | torriem | yes |
| 06:16.09 | torriem | oops |
| 06:16.10 | torriem | wrong window |
| 06:16.43 | xbmodder | do the bots got define? |
| 06:16.48 | xbmodder | urban dictionary |
| 06:17.03 | xbmodder | ~google dank |
| 06:17.07 | xbmodder | |google dank |
| 06:17.13 | xbmodder | ~google define:dank |
| 06:17.29 | xbmodder | or not... |
| 06:17.36 | Maquis | dictionary dank |
| 06:17.41 | Maquis | |dictionary dank |
| 06:17.48 | Maquis | |dict dank |
| 06:17.51 | Maquis | there was one someplace... |
| 06:18.55 | xbmodder | aaaah your fro is fscking dank! I love it! |
| 06:19.01 | xbmodder | define dank in that |
| 06:19.13 | xbmodder | i always thot dank was really powerful weed... |
| 06:30.37 | xbmodder | ? |
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| 06:35.52 | goozbach | ~dict dank |
| 06:36.42 | goozbach | and the compy just peed my carpet. |
| 06:43.17 | Maquis | ??????? |
| 06:43.33 | goozbach | sbemail |
| 06:44.14 | Maquis | huh? |
| 06:45.41 | xbmodder | lol |
| 06:46.39 | Maquis | hey! |
| 06:46.41 | Maquis | no picking on me! |
| 06:46.48 | goozbach | www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail.html |
| 06:47.05 | Maquis | ah... |
| 06:47.07 | goozbach | start at number one and don't sleep till you've seen them all |
| 06:47.20 | Maquis | that's really not a good idea... |
| 06:48.28 | Maquis | goo: is the volume on? |
| 06:49.46 | amcnabb | Flash uses /dev/dsp, and if anything else is writing to /dev/dsp, flash will silently skip all audio. |
| 06:49.53 | amcnabb | Very annoying. |
| 06:50.27 | goozbach | that explains it. |
| 06:50.32 | amcnabb | If only Flash had an alsa mode! |
| 06:50.41 | goozbach | #file /dev/dsp |
| 06:50.51 | goozbach | /dev/dsp: cannot open (/dev/dsp) |
| 06:51.00 | goozbach | file not found |
| 06:51.13 | amcnabb | D'oh. |
| 06:51.33 | Maquis | hmmm.. |
| 06:51.37 | Maquis | that's interesting |
| 06:51.55 | goozbach | xmms works |
| 06:53.47 | xbmodder | xmms now has working alsa! |
| 06:53.53 | xbmodder | i think |
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| 06:57.13 | goozbach | xbmodder: aparently |
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| 06:57.30 | goozbach | seeing how any alsa enabled something can play sound |
| 06:57.36 | goozbach | where flash cannot |
| 06:57.56 | xbmodder | lol |
| 06:58.00 | xbmodder | flash == sad |
| 06:58.05 | xbmodder | real men use AVI |
| 07:06.26 | xbmodder | gnight |
| 07:07.23 | goozbach | night |
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| 07:08.51 | xbmodder | g?night |
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| 07:31.53 | tene_ | hmm |
| 07:32.08 | tene_ | I just noticed something slightly odd |
| 07:32.14 | tene_ | and so ran glxinfo |
| 07:32.33 | tene_ | and got three pages of "Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". |
| 08:00.13 | LeviHome | Mmmm, higher order functions. |
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