| 00:11.48 | bbeattie | anyone having google problems? |
| 00:12.22 | Jayce^ | I'm bbeattie and I have a google problem.. :) |
| 00:12.23 | vontrapp | "No phone, no phone. I just want to be alone today" |
| 00:12.35 | bbeattie | ;) |
| 00:12.51 | bbeattie | My life can't go on without google responding! |
| 00:12.54 | vontrapp | "Ringing, stinging" |
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| 00:13.21 | vontrapp | eeps, what happened to google?! |
| 00:13.27 | bbeattie | Ahh, my life is going once again |
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| 00:45.22 | goozbach | "summons me with just one beep" |
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| 00:49.05 | hans | |lart links for not letting me cut and paste |
| 00:49.21 | hans | my phone number is at position 13417822 to the right of the decimal point in pi |
| 00:52.23 | goozbach | hans: you have too much time on your hands |
| 00:57.38 | hans | goozbach: no, just a website. I'd paste it but links is lame. :-P |
| 00:58.27 | goozbach | heh |
| 00:58.59 | goozbach | Yeah! a last minute class assignment |
| 00:59.10 | goozbach | I'll be flying first class at least |
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| 01:09.19 | sjansen | ~hug all lvm developers |
| 01:09.21 | ibot | ACTION hugs all lvm developers |
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| 01:45.51 | brailsmt | hans: post the link |
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| 02:01.21 | goozbach | sjansen: hear about system-config-lvm? |
| 02:01.25 | goozbach | it's in the works |
| 02:01.30 | sjansen | i did |
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| 02:06.48 | Maquis | yay! i'm a step further |
| 02:06.52 | Maquis | now it's time to go home |
| 02:07.45 | Mecworks | better than being one step beyond. |
| 02:10.00 | goozbach | yay! I'm eating pizza |
| 02:15.43 | emcnabb | I'm not eating pizza :-( |
| 02:32.00 | goozbach | note to self... |
| 02:32.15 | emcnabb | give emcnabb pizza |
| 02:32.20 | goozbach | I can no longer eat an entire medium pizza |
| 02:32.32 | goozbach | by myself |
| 02:32.42 | emcnabb | so share it with emcnabb |
| 02:32.57 | goozbach | maybe I'll take some down to the cute girl at the front desk |
| 02:38.15 | Mecworks | I wish I had a cute girl at a front desk where I am...but alas, there's no front desk at my condo let alone a cute girl to sit at it... |
| 02:39.18 | goozbach | dammit, it's some ugly dude now |
| 02:40.16 | fozz | Did he appreciate it? |
| 02:40.25 | fozz | Is he coming up to your room after his shift ends? |
| 02:40.53 | goozbach | unforunatly he's wearing a ring. |
| 02:41.30 | goozbach | nikki cox is hot! |
| 02:50.11 | fozz | Whoa. Better turn safesearch on. |
| 02:53.11 | goozbach | heh |
| 02:55.18 | goozbach | http://anas.worldonline.es/javiercc/chicas/nikkic/nik03.jpg |
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| 03:56.38 | goozbach | pizza coma |
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| 04:19.48 | Maquis | ipes... |
| 04:19.51 | Maquis | that was a long fhe |
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| 04:27.41 | Maquis | |lart SpecialK |
| 04:44.12 | hans | which should I read first, speaker for the dead or shadow of the hegemon? I've read ender's game/shadow |
| 04:47.46 | SpecialK | Speaker |
| 04:47.49 | goozbach | hans: speaker then children |
| 04:49.03 | goozbach | hans: after you're done with the ender's books |
| 04:49.06 | SpecialK | I'd say shadow has a lot less to do with the other books, but It's been a while since I read it and I can't recall if it has spoilers. |
| 04:49.12 | goozbach | read the homecoming series |
| 04:49.32 | SpecialK | Which are in the homecoming series? |
| 04:49.39 | hans | goozbach: been there, done that. ;-) |
| 04:50.24 | hans | goozbach: so finish the ender series and then go for the rest of the shadow series, is what you're saying? |
| 04:50.32 | goozbach | yep |
| 05:07.23 | goozbach | WTF!!! |
| 05:07.32 | goozbach | michael moore clean cut? |
| 05:07.47 | goozbach | turn on leno! |
| 05:08.04 | goozbach | me thinks the world is coming to an end |
| 05:08.21 | SpecialK | huh |
| 05:08.49 | SpecialK | I suppose now that I shaved the goat, I'm clean cut, but I assume that was sarcasr for MM. |
| 05:41.38 | SpecialK | |lart Maquis |
| 05:41.50 | SpecialK | muwhaahaahahahahah |
| 05:44.02 | Maquis | question: one of the girls in my apartment has a computer running winXP |
| 05:44.08 | Maquis | it's asking her for a password |
| 05:44.17 | Maquis | she claims she never set one |
| 05:44.32 | Maquis | but it won't go through with a blank password |
| 05:44.39 | Maquis | any ideas??? |
| 05:45.41 | Maquis | i keep getting random windoze questions, and i don't know how to do anything with windoze |
| 05:46.27 | bdogg | tell her to get her roommates and a copy of the book of mormon. Then proceed to question them about this "password" having them first swear-in. |
| 05:46.47 | bdogg | one will crack eventually |
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| 05:47.22 | Maquis | bdogg: doubtful |
| 05:47.31 | Maquis | she's the only one who knows how to do anything with the computer |
| 05:47.36 | bdogg | :( |
| 05:47.37 | Maquis | the entire thing is set up in chinese |
| 05:47.42 | bdogg | whoa |
| 05:47.48 | Maquis | she's from taiwan |
| 05:47.56 | bdogg | that would explain the chinese |
| 05:48.14 | bdogg | where'd she get the computer? |
| 05:49.38 | bdogg | tell her to take it to tac and have them fix it for her |
| 05:50.59 | Maquis | i'm going to try a root-kit type of cd |
| 05:51.29 | bdogg | I am hearing about a ntchpasswd command that you can run in linux, but you'd have to load the computer into a linux environment with a rescue cd or something |
| 05:51.34 | bdogg | ooo root-kit sounds nice |
| 05:51.51 | bdogg | that would be ntchpwd |
| 05:51.58 | bdogg | but I don't know firsthand |
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| 05:52.24 | SpecialK | Might have been done remotely |
| 05:52.41 | bdogg | darned hackers |
| 05:52.42 | SpecialK | The danger of connecting to the web unsecured. |
| 05:52.59 | bdogg | which apartments is she in? |
| 05:53.03 | colera | specialk you got hacked? |
| 05:53.27 | SpecialK | If you don't have a password and somebody queries your machine, it will tell them user names, and their dictionary attack won't take long. |
| 05:53.57 | bdogg | most complexes at byu are firewalled aren't they? |
| 05:54.15 | colera | yeah but they arn't firewalled very well |
| 05:54.27 | bdogg | I see |
| 05:54.51 | colera | there are alway's ports open |
| 05:55.00 | bdogg | like comcast |
| 05:55.24 | tensai | Maquis: I've used UBCD to reset NT passwords. http://ubcd.sourceforge.net/ |
| 05:55.29 | colera | byu's wireless netowrk isn't even encrypted |
| 05:55.30 | colera | ! |
| 05:55.34 | bdogg | cool |
| 05:55.40 | tensai | it's a handy tool to have in general |
| 05:56.09 | SpecialK | I was under the impression that resnet and wirless are natted under a 10.0.x.x subnet |
| 05:56.23 | colera | IF you were to use a sniffer at BYU you sould pick up all sorts of stuff |
| 05:56.30 | SpecialK | yes |
| 05:56.30 | colera | all unencrypted |
| 06:00.43 | jlp | ahh, the byu network |
| 06:01.41 | jlp | back in the early 90's, a segment of ethernet cable (coax, not twisted pair) that carried the subnet the yvax was on passed through the office of the college of engineering's director of computing |
| 06:01.48 | colera | including this present conversation as i am sitting in the library as we speak : ) |
| 06:02.03 | SpecialK | they do have encrypted available. It is a little difficult to get working at times, and nobody bothers. . . |
| 06:02.43 | colera | only if they arn't broadcastin gthe ssid |
| 06:02.44 | jlp | a certain cowboy sysadmin I knew at the time had a sniffer on that wire, and every time the UCS guys changed the system password on the yvax, this admin would log in as system and e-mail it to them |
| 06:02.51 | colera | because i am not picking up on it |
| 06:03.13 | colera | lol |
| 06:03.16 | jlp | his method of "encouraging" them not to use telnet |
| 06:03.21 | colera | that's funny |
| 06:04.45 | jlp | this was back when the campus had a bridged network (because LAT didn't work through routers, and LAT was the only terminal services protocol used back then) |
| 06:05.19 | Maquis | tensai: does that work if it claims not to have the file with the users? |
| 06:06.00 | tensai | Maquis: dunno. I only used it once on a machine that did claim to have users |
| 06:06.07 | Maquis | tensai: yeah... |
| 06:06.16 | Maquis | well, i got a rootkit, but it's having problems because it can't find that file |
| 06:06.26 | Maquis | eitehr that or it doens't understand chinese |
| 06:06.30 | Maquis | which is possible |
| 06:10.28 | Newsome | jlp: you knew Kelly and Stacey? |
| 06:10.29 | SpecialK | yeah, the Chinese could complicate things |
| 06:11.19 | bdogg | you must be a patient man |
| 06:11.26 | bdogg | I would just format it without blinking |
| 06:11.40 | bdogg | of course I would make an effort to back up though |
| 06:14.05 | Maquis | mmmmk |
| 06:14.19 | Maquis | anyone have any experience using a rootkit on a winXP chinese machine |
| 06:14.34 | Maquis | i can get root on the machine, but the rootkit i'm using won't play nicely with any of the chinese files |
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| 06:16.47 | bdogg | are you sure the password file is there? the rootkits just mentioned not being able to find it right? |
| 06:25.12 | jlp | Newsome Stacey, yes, and Kelly Flanagan? |
| 06:25.27 | Newsome | yeah |
| 06:25.41 | jlp | yeah, and jamie gritton |
| 06:26.03 | jlp | Stacey and I went to a conference together in Boston one time... he's done quite well for himself |
| 06:26.05 | Newsome | only people I know who would have sniffed the lan and emailed the password |
| 06:26.30 | Newsome | Kelly isn't doing too bad, either. |
| 06:26.45 | jlp | I didn't really know Kelly... met him once or twice |
| 06:26.51 | Newsome | okay. |
| 06:27.02 | jlp | Jamie I knew, and Stacey |
| 06:27.22 | Newsome | I knew Jamie, and I've met Stacey once or twice |
| 06:27.41 | jlp | I used to work for the math department |
| 06:27.47 | Maquis | bdogg: i figured out that the problem was that it couldn't read it because it's in chinese |
| 06:28.02 | Newsome | Okay. I work in the CS Department. |
| 06:28.14 | jlp | been a while, for me, though |
| 06:28.26 | jlp | '89 through '96 |
| 06:28.53 | Newsome | yeah, '91 through...well...2004, I guess |
| 06:29.03 | jlp | so you used to work for Jim Logan? |
| 06:29.23 | Newsome | no |
| 06:29.30 | jlp | oh, just in the department? |
| 06:30.08 | Newsome | I worked for Kelly during my undergrad, then became the system guy in CS in 99 |
| 06:30.08 | jlp | did you know Kelly Hall, too? |
| 06:30.23 | Newsome | I've met Kelly Hall. He was an odd duck. |
| 06:30.29 | jlp | he still is :-) |
| 06:30.35 | Newsome | I believe it |
| 06:30.36 | jlp | good guy, though |
| 06:30.39 | Newsome | yeah :) |
| 06:31.01 | jlp | he's in san diego now, building internet filtering appliances for st bernard software |
| 06:31.23 | jlp | did you know Phil Humphereys? |
| 06:31.36 | Newsome | Sounds familiar, but I'm not sure |
| 06:32.00 | Newsome | You worked for Phil Windley for a while, right? |
| 06:32.05 | jlp | Phil was very tall, dark headed, CS student in '95-'97 (undergrad) |
| 06:32.17 | jlp | yeah, I worked for Windley at iMALL |
| 06:32.27 | Newsome | he's back at BYU again |
| 06:32.43 | Newsome | Paul Black? |
| 06:32.43 | jlp | so I heard... after he "resigned" from the state CTO position |
| 06:33.03 | Newsome | right. |
| 06:33.06 | jlp | I remember Paul Black, but can't say I knew him |
| 06:33.40 | jlp | Bruce Lee? |
| 06:33.42 | Newsome | He was a grad student over in CS. He won the Obfuscated C contest one year in one of the categories |
| 06:34.03 | Newsome | no, doesn't sound familiar |
| 06:34.15 | Newsome | I'm trying to remember all the Math people I could know. |
| 06:34.20 | jlp | I can't remember when he was there |
| 06:34.45 | jlp | did you know paul cardon? |
| 06:34.58 | Newsome | sounds very familiar |
| 06:35.06 | jlp | (worked for me in the math dept... ran some labs for me... NeXT fan) |
| 06:35.34 | Newsome | Jim Logan is over the Math Dept. now |
| 06:35.44 | jlp | yeah, he took over when I left |
| 06:35.59 | jlp | I asked him to, in fact |
| 06:36.23 | jlp | didn't like leaving the department in a lurch, but I couldn't turn down the 20% salary increase |
| 06:36.41 | Newsome | I understand. Really, I do :) |
| 06:36.42 | jlp | that was the only drawback to working at byu... the pay was quite low |
| 06:37.00 | Newsome | hasn't changed much in that regard |
| 06:37.06 | jlp | heh |
| 06:37.23 | jlp | so is stan peters still there (in UCS)? |
| 06:37.24 | Newsome | Math got to move the math lab back to the Talmage Building |
| 06:37.45 | Newsome | doesn't sound familiar, but it's a big organization |
| 06:38.09 | jlp | heh, that was my main source of exercise... hiking across campus to the various labs |
| 06:38.23 | Newsome | I think they're all in the building now |
| 06:38.33 | jlp | good for them |
| 06:38.36 | Newsome | no more trips down to the KMB |
| 06:38.47 | jlp | KMB, and that building south of the library |
| 06:39.16 | Newsome | oh, yeah...Kennedy or something |
| 06:39.22 | jlp | something like that |
| 06:39.44 | jlp | the KMB was a terrible building for computers... power was very flakey |
| 06:40.44 | jlp | still, it kept my weight down :-) |
| 06:41.06 | Newsome | yeah |
| 06:41.11 | jlp | within a year of leaving the Y, I had gained 30 pounds |
| 06:41.21 | Newsome | ouch |
| 06:41.26 | jlp | I suffer from the sysadmin's curse: "fatter" :-) |
| 06:46.03 | jlp | did you know pete dotson? |
| 06:46.14 | jlp | (statistic's dept sysadmin) |
| 06:46.59 | Newsome | I don't think so. The main guy in Stats is Greg Corlett |
| 06:49.26 | Newsome | well, good to meet you. Thanks for chatting. |
| 06:49.31 | jlp | likewise |
| 06:49.42 | Newsome | (Frank Sorenson here) |
| 06:50.30 | jlp | Jan Peterson |
| 06:53.56 | Newsome | well, sleepytime. Night, all. |
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| 06:54.15 | Maquis | gnight newsome |
