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| 00:27.48 | LeviHome | Yo |
| 00:29.05 | mhatch | Hey |
| 00:33.02 | LeviHome | Wassup? |
| 00:33.14 | mhatch | nada |
| 00:33.32 | mhatch | just relaxing on a snowy sunday evening |
| 00:33.42 | LeviHome | I'm eating pecan pie and cursing the snow. |
| 00:34.14 | LeviHome | And procrastinating doing the dishes. :) |
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| 00:36.55 | LeviHome | Also reading up a bit more on Squeak and Seaside. |
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| 00:54.44 | LeviHome | Good evening. |
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| 01:37.43 | SpecialK | mmmm. . . pie |
| 01:43.47 | LeviHome | Good pie, too. |
| 01:45.50 | LeviHome | And I just about fell asleep. |
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| 02:02.40 | LeviHome | Anyone up to anything? |
| 02:02.50 | SpecialK | |roullette |
| 02:03.07 | SpecialK | |roulette |
| 02:03.07 | brigham | SpecialK: chamber 1 of 6 => +click+ |
| 02:07.09 | LeviHome | Not much then, I guess. :) |
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| 02:28.36 | jakea | anyone on the BYU network notice any odd network behavior since BYU OIT did whatever they did a week ago? |
| 02:30.13 | LeviHome | Mmmmmm, Thomas Kemper ginger ale. |
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| 02:36.38 | mhatch | I took my shoes off too soon. Now I'm cold. :( |
| 02:37.30 | LeviHome | Shoes are good at keeping feet warm. |
| 02:37.57 | LeviHome | In my case, often too warm. My feet like to sweat when I have shoes on, but when I take them off, they freeze. |
| 02:38.23 | mhatch | Then I should rephrase: I took my *socks* off too soon. |
| 02:57.20 | LeviHome | Well, it's never too late to put on more socks! Or slippers, perhaps. |
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| 02:59.43 | goozbach | a warm fire |
| 02:59.57 | goozbach | it's raining like crazy here |
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| 03:51.30 | bonez39 | if I try to open a php script...i.e., http://localhost/openemr/setup.php, I get a Save dialogue, i.e., the script doesn't just run....I have php 4 installed..why won't the script just run? |
| 03:52.53 | bonez39 | anyone? |
| 03:54.08 | brailsmt_ | bonez39: do you have apache set up to recognize php? |
| 03:54.15 | goozbach | check the mime type in httpd.conf |
| 03:54.42 | bonez39 | brailsmt_, likely not setup right.... |
| 03:55.00 | bonez39 | goozbach, what do I search on in httpd.conf? 'mime'? |
| 03:55.17 | goozbach | LoadModule php4_module modules/libphp4.so |
| 03:55.30 | goozbach | AddType application/x-httpd-php .php |
| 03:55.44 | goozbach | DirectoryIndex index.php |
| 03:55.51 | goozbach | those three lines |
| 03:56.13 | goozbach | of course you'll need the php module |
| 03:59.26 | bonez39 | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:17.22 | LeviHome | Bah, php. |
| 04:22.36 | brailsmt_ | anyone know of a good argument for dropping support for old systems and or limiting support to a small set of systems that make up 95% of current user base (basically HPUX and Solaris, and Linux)? |
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| 04:25.10 | LeviHome | Well, which arguments are good probably depends on the situation. |
| 04:25.44 | LeviHome | Are you spending a disproportionate amount of time supporting old systems? |
| 04:27.26 | LeviHome | Most arguments boil down to 'It costs too much', so you could work backwards from there. :) |
| 04:29.37 | LeviHome | Grr, gmail isn't responding to me. |
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| 04:40.24 | brailsmt_ | LeviHome: i was hoping someone here had a novel argument besides 'it costs too much' |
| 04:42.01 | LeviHome | Well, in the business world, it all boils down to costs. |
| 04:50.22 | brailsmt_ | LeviHome: unless you have a developer that likes to keep the software product in a state that perpetuates his employment... |
| 04:51.55 | brailsmt_ | not by sabotaging the code, but rather by crafting a development environment that requires his knowledge |
| 04:53.13 | brailsmt_ | ie, we can't make change XYZ which will benefit 95% of systems becuase it will break the Tru64 client... |
| 04:53.36 | LeviHome | Well, that also is a sort of cost. |
| 04:54.03 | brailsmt_ | which means that if I see a problem or improvement, I can't fix it unless i clear it with him first, which means he can veto every single one... |
| 04:54.23 | LeviHome | The cost of maintaining the minority platform is slower development on the common case. |
| 04:55.30 | brailsmt_ | and he has veto'd the vast majority so far... |
| 04:55.48 | tensai | same guy who things revision control is bad? |
| 04:56.05 | tensai | s/things/thinks/ |
| 05:19.28 | LeviHome | So, is gmail down for everyone else? |
| 05:22.46 | mhatch | I can log into gmail just fine |
| 05:23.29 | goozbach | working for me |
| 05:28.53 | goozbach | Once upon a time in Mexico rocks |
| 05:30.25 | mhatch | I wasn't impressed. It could've been so much better. |
| 05:30.34 | goozbach | the gunfights are cool |
| 05:31.15 | goozbach | it doesn't hold a candle to the original El Marichi |
| 05:31.58 | mhatch | Correct. :) |
| 05:32.28 | goozbach | but still it's better than getting a kick in the face |
| 05:33.29 | LeviHome | Gah, gmail still doesn't work for me. Weird. |
| 05:33.54 | mhatch | I have yet to have a good kick in the face, so I can't make a comparison. |
| 05:33.55 | mhatch | :) |
| 05:37.20 | goozbach | well there was this one drunken brawl |
| 05:37.24 | goozbach | ... |
| 05:39.40 | goozbach | |lart jet-lag |
| 05:44.02 | brailsmt_ | tensai: yes |
| 05:44.32 | brailsmt_ | well he doesn't think it is bad, he just didn't have any set up before i got there... |
| 05:44.54 | brailsmt_ | i got RCS up and running in my first two weeks |
| 05:45.17 | brailsmt_ | not that it took 2 weeks, its just one of the things i worked on then |
| 05:57.52 | brailsmt_ | anyone know how to convert from (ps|pdf|dvi) to txt? |
| 06:00.56 | SpecialK | no |
| 06:05.04 | goozbach | brailsmt_: ps2ascii |
| 06:18.00 | brailsmt_ | i was looking so hard for ps2txt or *2txt that I missed that... |
| 06:18.14 | brailsmt_ | thx |
| 06:19.10 | goozbach | ghostscript rocks |
| 06:19.12 | brailsmt_ | of course it nukes the formatting... |
| 06:19.18 | goozbach | well yeah |
| 06:19.28 | goozbach | beggars can't be choosy |
| 06:20.32 | brailsmt_ | yeah... |
| 06:21.32 | brailsmt_ | i am actually better off with my original .tex file |
| 06:27.59 | brailsmt_ | is there a tool to center text? fmt only wraps lines |
| 06:28.37 | goozbach | from the command line? |
| 06:30.02 | brailsmt_ | yeah |
| 06:30.42 | Maquis | i'm HOME!!!! |
| 06:32.38 | goozbach | Maquis: good on ya |
| 06:32.44 | goozbach | how was the flight? |
| 06:32.44 | Maquis | ?? |
| 06:32.47 | Maquis | it was ok |
| 06:32.55 | Maquis | i'm tired... |
| 06:32.58 | Maquis | and behind on work |
| 06:33.23 | Maquis | i wish i could keep up on homework |
| 06:33.34 | fozz | Me too. |
| 06:33.57 | Maquis | my roommate's in a bad mood because she has a 20-page paper due tomorrow and she spent all of thanksgiving working on it |
| 06:34.04 | Maquis | fozz: thanks :) |
| 06:34.19 | Maquis | so, she's mad about things, and her printer's not working, and nothing's working... |
| 06:35.09 | brailsmt_ | and she should have worked on it before the week before it was due |
| 06:35.33 | brailsmt_ | tell she can only blame herself... |
| 06:35.34 | brailsmt_ | ;) |
| 06:35.51 | brailsmt | ... |
| 06:36.24 | Maquis | brailsmt: i'd be a hipocrite if i told her that |
| 06:36.45 | brailsmt | i would be too, but, hey that doesn't make it less true :) |
| 06:36.48 | Maquis | i'm behind because i hadn't had time to work on my major cs project until thanksgiving |
| 06:38.17 | goozbach | A third blade movie?! |
| 06:38.24 | goozbach | freakin' A |
| 06:38.37 | fozz | Too bad those Blade movies suck. |
| 06:39.09 | fozz | heh heh. |
| 06:39.24 | fozz | This is coming from a Joss Whedon fanatic. |
| 06:39.30 | goozbach | heh |
| 06:40.16 | fozz | Are there any witticisms at all in any of the Blade movies? |
| 06:40.51 | goozbach | umm... a few |
| 06:41.09 | fozz | I mean, really clever lines... |
| 06:42.42 | goozbach | I can't remember many |
| 06:42.46 | fozz | heh heh. |
| 06:42.51 | goozbach | it's more cut-em-ups |
| 06:43.15 | fozz | "You're a dead man, Blade!" |
| 06:43.18 | fozz | "Yeah, I know." |
| 06:43.50 | Maquis | one of the girls in my apartment just woke up for the "morning" |
| 06:44.15 | fozz | Now THIS is why I could never go to BYU. |
| 06:44.39 | Maquis | fozz: THIS??? |
| 06:44.57 | fozz | Yeah- over-idealistic morning people. :) |
| 06:45.26 | goozbach | "does this skirt make my cholestrol low?" |
| 06:46.34 | goozbach | s/low/look low/ |
| 06:46.40 | goozbach | WTF |
| 06:46.58 | goozbach | I gotta stop watching late night tv |
| 06:47.24 | goozbach | I just saw gay phone-dating commercial |
| 06:47.32 | Maquis | oh |
| 06:47.39 | fozz | Phones have sexual preference now?! |
| 06:47.53 | goozbach | yes fozz |
| 06:47.59 | Maquis | so ummm... i need to decide whether to go to bed, or to just work all night long |
| 06:48.01 | goozbach | you havent' seen a gay phone? |
| 06:48.10 | Maquis | and if i go to bed, how long do i go to bed for? |
| 06:48.11 | fozz | Pink fuzzy phones? |
| 06:49.13 | goozbach | Maquis: go to bed now and sleep till your first class tomorrow |
| 06:49.20 | fozz | Maquis: Go to bed for 4 hours. |
| 06:49.40 | Maquis | goozbach: i'm afraid that fozz's answer is more likely to win out... |
| 06:49.52 | fozz | Four hours and 2 minutes. |
| 06:49.57 | Maquis | i was thinking less, but 4 sounds like it might be a good idea |
| 06:50.15 | goozbach | you can function really well on twenty minutes every two hours |
| 06:50.24 | goozbach | but never miss a cycle or your dead |
| 06:51.02 | goozbach | I'm gonna go to sleep for 4 hours and 30 minutes |
| 06:51.31 | Maquis | i've heard that if you bang your head really hard, in just the right way, you can actuall make it so that you no longer require sleep |
| 06:52.28 | fozz | This is true. |
| 06:52.33 | fozz | But death is not the answer! |
| 06:52.40 | Maquis | they didn't die.. |
| 06:52.45 | Maquis | it was some result of massive head trauma |
| 06:56.26 | brailsmt | i imagine life would get pretty boring if you never slept... and I bet that they had shortened life spans as a result of no time when the body shot down for repairs... |
| 06:56.40 | brailsmt | s/shot/shut |
| 06:57.02 | brailsmt | :w |
| 06:57.08 | brailsmt | oops... |
| 06:58.44 | Maquis | brailsmt: i don't think it would get that boring |
| 06:58.55 | Maquis | honestly, i would actually be doing well in school |
| 07:02.29 | Maquis | gnight all |
| 07:02.34 | fozz | I tried developing a theory once... |
| 07:02.41 | fozz | About sleep. |
| 07:02.42 | Maquis | theory? |
| 07:02.43 | fozz | And other things. |
| 07:03.03 | fozz | Oh- Just making a list of things I personally thought were a total waste of potentially productive time. |
| 07:03.08 | fozz | Sleeping was number 1 |
| 07:03.14 | fozz | Having sex was number 2 |
| 07:03.27 | fozz | Painting toenails was number 3 |
| 07:03.37 | fozz | I can't remember what else I came upw ith. |
| 07:03.44 | Maquis | haha |
| 07:03.58 | Maquis | i'll agree with 1 and 3... no experience with 2 |
| 07:04.42 | fozz | Some people have argued #2 isn't true... |
| 07:04.48 | fozz | That sex can be very productive. |
| 07:04.55 | fozz | Look at the average Utah family. :) |
| 07:04.57 | Newsome | well, reproductive at least |
| 07:05.01 | Maquis | haha |
| 07:05.21 | fozz | On that note... |
| 07:05.22 | fozz | Go to bed. |
| 07:05.25 | Maquis | gnight |
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| 10:58.35 | Maquis | morning? |
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| 12:29.52 | goozbach | morning Maquis |
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| 13:11.40 | Maquis | morning goo |
| 13:18.38 | Maquis | w00t! i have /. mod points! |
| 13:19.02 | Maquis | (funny... i was just curious as to how this worked) |