| 00:02.21 | *** join/#utah markl_ (mark@knm28.knm.org) |
| 00:02.53 | fozz | Maquis: e-mail is a non-count noun. You shouldn't pluralize it as "emails." That's like saying, "I ate four spaghettis tonight." |
| 00:02.58 | fozz | ;-) |
| 00:03.30 | fozz | oh, I should have e-mailed that to you privately, huh? |
| 00:03.31 | hans | fozz: you ate four spaghetti? |
| 00:03.37 | vontrapp | fozz, you need to post that to the list and start a flame/spaghetti war |
| 00:03.38 | hans | irc counts as private |
| 00:03.44 | fozz | :-D |
| 00:03.45 | hans | a public flogging quickly scrolls off the screen |
| 00:07.39 | hans | so "I wrote four email this morning" is the correct usage then? |
| 00:08.08 | vontrapp | see, this thread would have already been off to a good start |
| 00:08.36 | hans | people that want to debate the nitpicky things just need to get themselves an IRC client |
| 00:08.57 | vontrapp | hans, it would be you ate four spaghetti noodles, likewise you wrote four email messages |
| 00:09.05 | vontrapp | you have to instantiate the classifier |
| 00:09.53 | vontrapp | :p |
| 00:10.03 | hans | nonsense. "email message" is like "spaghetti pasta" |
| 00:10.09 | hans | redundant |
| 00:10.39 | Mecworks | of course, I could pick up the mail, or receive a lot of mail, not mails. |
| 00:11.58 | vontrapp | ok, then, hans, just substitute it for messages when you want to quantify |
| 00:12.15 | vontrapp | e.g. i recieved lots of mail vs. i wrote 4 letters |
| 00:13.03 | hans | but how often do you say look at this mail (one letter) I got? |
| 00:13.29 | Mecworks | every day. |
| 00:13.39 | Mecworks | I say "check out this email..." |
| 00:14.31 | hans | if fozz' original statement was 100% correct, then "I wrote four email this morning" is also correct. I wasn't saying it wasn't, I was just asking for clarification. Y'all's defensiveness just demonstrates that you're not comfortable with "I wrote four email this morning" |
| 00:14.36 | Mecworks | I can write one email or some email. |
| 00:14.55 | hans | which means, either none of us use it correctly, or his statement isn't 100% applicable |
| 00:15.02 | hans | sure you can |
| 00:15.31 | hans | but can you write 4 email? |
| 00:15.36 | Mecworks | Oh, I'm not showing any defensivosity at all... |
| 00:15.52 | Mecworks | I can. |
| 00:15.58 | vontrapp | defensivosity.. :) |
| 00:16.09 | Mecworks | I can even write 5 email. |
| 00:16.12 | Mecworks | 8^) |
| 00:16.13 | hans | ok, so you agree the correct usage is "I wrote four email this morning" |
| 00:16.41 | Mecworks | Yes. I agrees. |
| 00:17.00 | hans | good. I'll add it to the list of rules for plug |
| 00:17.07 | Mecworks | 8^) |
| 00:17.17 | vontrapp | the way i was thinking was like: you pick up four dirt |
| 00:17.27 | vontrapp | you wouldn't say that, so you would say dirt clumps |
| 00:17.42 | vontrapp | but come to think of it, i think 4 email does work nicely |
| 00:17.43 | Mecworks | Well a hunter can shoot 4 elk. |
| 00:18.17 | hans | vontrapp: but the difference is both dirt and spaghetti don't really have a _singular_, whereas email is more often a singular than a plural |
| 00:18.28 | Mecworks | (maybe not legaly, if the local laws don't allow...) |
| 00:18.28 | hans | so it's not really the same as those words. it does compare well to elk though |
| 00:18.35 | hans | at least by fozz' definition |
| 00:18.49 | vontrapp | so the original flaw was in comparing it to spaghetti |
| 00:19.10 | hans | well that's apparently what sent you two on the wild goose chase in response to my question, yes. ;-) |
| 00:19.24 | vontrapp | ;) |
| 00:19.25 | hans | I just wanted to know if email really should be used like elk |
| 00:19.30 | Mecworks | 8^) |
| 00:19.48 | Mecworks | I feel it should. |
| 00:20.08 | hans | I'm not the one who compared it to spaghetti. :) |
| 00:20.26 | Mecworks | I think I came in the middle of the whole thing. |
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| 00:22.51 | ECS | |lart Maquis |
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| 00:51.12 | bonez39 | I was just listening to NPR..and they were discussing BitTorrent....the dangers of using it.... |
| 00:51.27 | macnewbold | dangers? |
| 00:51.32 | bonez39 | what's the reality with bittorrent....I used it to download OO to my wife's windows laptop and it was a snap..... |
| 00:51.52 | bonez39 | macnewbold: yeah, they were tooting about file sharing....etc....with bittorrent...and how one is NOT anonymous....etc... |
| 00:52.00 | bonez39 | I figure I can get the straight scoop here |
| 00:52.17 | macnewbold | and one needs to be anonymous why? Email and http downloads and ftp transfers aren't anonymous... |
| 00:57.11 | JoshH | bt is no more or less anonymous than anything else |
| 01:02.36 | JoshH | but what do you expect to hear about it on a radio show |