| 00:01.04 | levi | And I like the idea of a computing environment that's accessible to children. The eToy stuff and its educational uses are interesting. |
| 00:01.44 | levi | Seaside seems like it's going to help push it more towards serious deployment, as well. |
| 00:02.23 | ilovebees | croquet has so much worthless 3d baggage I doubt it will be close to as cool as kansas in 5 years, if that. |
| 00:02.47 | ilovebees | and probably not as functional in 10 |
| 00:03.02 | ilovebees | I'm still undecided about the etoys and computing for kids |
| 00:07.05 | levi | I'm going to have to try playing with Self on my Mac. |
| 00:11.00 | levi | And Slate, which is currently being developed by a guy who hangs out on #squeak |
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| 00:24.34 | ilovebees | hehe, been hanging out with water? |
| 00:31.09 | levi | Talked with him a bit. |
| 00:31.17 | levi | Slate looks very cool, though. |
| 00:31.23 | levi | Anyway, time for me to spin for a bit. |
| 01:02.40 | ilovebees | how odd, there's not a single US mirror of gnoppix.. |
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| 02:20.01 | ilovebees | the fate of shareware developers: A couple years ago I bought a really cool app called AudioAlien and was surprised when the author emailed me thanking me for purchasing, since I was the first customer. I was surprised because it was already all over warez sites and at version 2, I considered it had probably sold quite well. Well now I'm trying to find it again and I can't even find the official site, just a bunch of warez sites with mention of it. |
| 02:22.34 | tensai | sweet. p0f pays off. the Gandolfo's registers are "Windows 2000 SP2+, XP SP1" |
| 02:30.16 | fozz | levi: "I'm going to have to try playing with Self on my Mac." ??!??!? |
| 02:30.29 | fozz | Do I want to know? |
| 02:32.39 | LeviHome | Self is a programming language. |
| 02:32.48 | ilovebees | Linus isn't even an executive, how can he be executive of the year? |
| 02:32.52 | LeviHome | Apparently, the latest version only runs on OS X and Solaris. |
| 02:33.31 | LeviHome | ilovebees: re shareware: alas. |
| 02:34.03 | LeviHome | I had a friend who made some nice spending money during school through his Mac shareware. |
| 02:36.06 | ilovebees | re linus: the slashdot summary should actually say "top executive in IT" since the article doesn't even consider executives from other industries |
| 02:36.36 | ilovebees | leviHome, maybe the trick is to make shareware for non-computer savvy people |
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| 02:37.22 | ilovebees | like my grandparents, they actually buy winzip. you can make some serious money making simple software that does things for those types of people, but if you make something advanced that's cool for tech people everyone (including me normally) will just pirate it |
| 02:39.13 | LeviHome | Yeah, that's probably true. It needs enough exposure in the market, where the market is people who are willing to spend money on software. :) |
| 02:39.38 | LeviHome | Probably there are more of those in the Mac world. |
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| 02:46.32 | fozz | Whoa. A GIRL! |
| 02:46.39 | Maquis | fozz: HEY!!! |
| 02:46.45 | fozz | Whoa. Another GIRL! |
| 02:46.52 | Maquis | tensai: any good info??? cc#s? |
| 02:47.02 | Maquis | fozz: just picking on you for that |
| 02:47.12 | fozz | Maquis: :) |
| 02:47.15 | Maquis | :) |
| 02:47.27 | fozz | Apparently Liregirl prefers the silence. |
| 02:47.43 | Liregirl | hey |
| 02:47.48 | Liregirl | what's up? |
| 02:47.56 | fozz | Whoa. A girl that SPEAKS. |
| 02:48.00 | Liregirl | :) |
| 02:48.17 | fozz | Liregirl: Are you coming to us from Brazil? |
| 02:48.20 | Liregirl | and u r a boy that speak |
| 02:48.28 | tensai | Maquis: not yet. I was only there for a few minutes. just long enough to capture some IPs. I'll have to go in for a sandwich and put my laptop in my backpack or something |
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| 02:48.46 | Liregirl | yeah, i hv friends from salt lake |
| 02:49.08 | fozz | Liregirl: Cool. |
| 02:49.23 | fozz | That's where I am... well a remote suburb of Salt Lake. |
| 02:49.32 | Liregirl | great |
| 02:49.52 | Liregirl | i hope hv fun when i be there |
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| 02:54.06 | Maquis | tensai: ah... are you going to talk to them? |
| 03:32.03 | Liregirl | hey... anyone from Provo here?? |
| 03:32.35 | spr | yo |
| 03:32.45 | Liregirl | :) |
| 03:34.12 | Liregirl | hello spr |
| 03:35.32 | spr | howdy |
| 03:36.23 | Liregirl | oquei |